| JoseeAntonioR | pleia2: writing the post for the fridge | 00:52 |
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| JoseeAntonioR | ok, post submitted, if akgraner, pleia2 or nhandler could please take a look at it and check if it's fine | 02:05 |
| pleia2 | JoseeAntonioR: thanks :) but we typically just copy verbatim exactly what the mailing list post has, not rewrite it | 04:48 |
| JoseeAntonioR | oh, got it | 04:49 |
| pleia2 | (especially in this case, I asked the poster to mail the list exactly what he wanted to see on fridge :) | 04:50 |
| pleia2 | brb | 04:51 |
| JoseeAntonioR | ok! | 04:51 |
| JoseeAntonioR | updated the post, copied the exact mail, and fixed a couple grammar error | 04:55 |
| pleia2 | JoseeAntonioR: great, looks good, all done editing? | 05:07 |
| JoseeAntonioR | let me double check | 05:08 |
| JoseeAntonioR | done now | 05:10 |
| pleia2 | just updated the citation and added planet tag so it'll go to the planet | 05:12 |
| pleia2 | thank you :) | 05:12 |
| pleia2 | published | 05:12 |
| pleia2 | JoseeAntonioR: wanna follow up to the email to let them know it's been posted? | 05:13 |
| JoseeAntonioR | sure :P | 05:13 |
| JoseeAntonioR | :) * | 05:13 |
| pleia2 | you rock | 05:13 |
| JoseeAntonioR | you too ;) | 05:14 |
| JoseeAntonioR | btw, about comments moderation, I'll get to that every now and then | 05:17 |
| JoseeAntonioR | oops, seems I can't | 05:19 |
| pleia2 | once you're full fridge editor you will be able to | 05:20 |
| pleia2 | which should be soon :) | 05:20 |
| JoseeAntonioR | great :) | 05:21 |
| JoseeAntonioR | btw, page 1 are all complaints and pingbacks | 05:21 |
| JoseeAntonioR | and questions | 05:21 |
| JoseeAntonioR | page two: pingbacks, questions, and appropiate comments from smeg fridge and sheet sets I think | 05:22 |
| JoseeAntonioR | and page 3, do "great news :)" count as a comment? | 05:22 |
| pleia2 | JoseeAntonioR: these are all questions I struggle with :) | 05:35 |
| pleia2 | the short answer "I don't know" | 05:35 |
| JoseeAntonioR | :P | 05:35 |
| JoseeAntonioR | we should set a minimum word count for comments | 05:35 |
| pleia2 | is that easily done in WP? | 05:38 |
| JoseeAntonioR | erm, there should be a plugin for that | 05:38 |
| JoseeAntonioR | let me take a look at it and I'll get back to you | 05:39 |
| pleia2 | plugins are tricky since they all need to be code-reviewed and approved by Canonical before they'll isntall them :\ | 05:40 |
| JoseeAntonioR | ouch | 05:40 |
| JoseeAntonioR | then a template mod may work | 05:40 |
| pleia2 | also needs code review | 05:41 |
| JoseeAntonioR | urgh | 05:41 |
| pleia2 | probably not worth it if it's not part of core WP to be honest | 05:41 |
| JoseeAntonioR | I found this: http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/minimum-comment-length/ | 05:42 |
| JoseeAntonioR | but nope, not part of core WP | 05:42 |
| JoseeAntonioR | also, may be worth to disable pingbacks | 05:43 |
| pleia2 | yeah, that's a good idea | 05:43 |
| pleia2 | they are almost all useless | 05:43 |
| pleia2 | ok, I need to go get some rest, thanks for reviewing those :) | 05:50 |
| JoseeAntonioR | np, see you tomorrow! :) | 05:52 |
| JoseeAntonioR | 3pm your time, right? | 05:52 |
| JoseeAntonioR | hey, dholbach! | 07:06 |
| dholbach | hey JoseeAntonioR | 07:08 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:08 |
| JoseeAntonioR | dholbach: mind a pm before I head to bed? | 07:10 |
| dholbach | not at all | 07:10 |
| MrChrisDruif | Middag | 14:07 |
| MrChrisDruif | s/Middag/Afternoon | 14:32 |
| pleia2 | JoseeAntonioR: around for publishing? :) | 21:16 |
| JoseeAntonioR | pleia2: yep! | 21:16 |
| JoseeAntonioR | was about to ping you about that | 21:16 |
| JoseeAntonioR | anything I should know before starting? | 21:17 |
| pleia2 | I don't think so, can you do a hangout? | 21:17 |
| JoseeAntonioR | sure! :) | 21:17 |
| JoseeAntonioR | done, and invited | 21:19 |
| pleia2 | haha, I was setting one up too | 21:19 |
| JoseeAntonioR | :P | 21:19 |
| pleia2 | gah | 21:21 |
| JoseeAntonioR | pleia2: timeout? | 21:22 |
| pleia2 | silly plugin crashing :) | 21:23 |
| pleia2 | ok, we'll explain it here! | 21:23 |
| JoseeAntonioR | great | 21:23 |
| JoseeAntonioR | skype is there if you want to give it a try | 21:24 |
| pleia2 | so this *should* all be explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies | 21:24 |
| pleia2 | so we're currently on step 11 :) | 21:24 |
| JoseeAntonioR | ok | 21:24 |
| pleia2 | so first I open up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue278 and spot check it for any obvious problems | 21:25 |
| pleia2 | then I go to edit it to add the "In This Issue" section | 21:25 |
| pleia2 | how we decide what goes here is largely up to the releasers descretion, usually you just pick the best dozen or so headlines from the week and put them there | 21:26 |
| JoseeAntonioR | ok, should I include Ubuntu Stats and updates and security in there? | 21:27 |
| pleia2 | yeah, the last few will pretty much always be the same | 21:27 |
| * pleia2 notices Featured Podcasts headline still in there without anything else | 21:28 | |
| pleia2 | I'll let you know when I'm done and post a diff | 21:28 |
| pleia2 | while I'm in here I can also do #12, removing stray comments | 21:29 |
| JoseeAntonioR | ok! | 21:30 |
| pleia2 | and I'll remove "Work in progress" | 21:30 |
| JoseeAntonioR | then, no comments or extras at all | 21:31 |
| JoseeAntonioR | question: | 21:31 |
| JoseeAntonioR | in case of words as LoCo, should the `` also be included in headlines? | 21:31 |
| pleia2 | no, only where they become linked | 21:32 |
| pleia2 | in headlines they don't :) | 21:32 |
| pleia2 | in this bulletpoint list they do, so I need to add them | 21:32 |
| * pleia2 waits for wiki | 21:33 | |
| JoseeAntonioR | updated now :) | 21:33 |
| pleia2 | right, so you can see the changes I made: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue278?action=diff&rev2=14&rev1=13 | 21:33 |
| pleia2 | now I do one last eyeball of it to make sure it looks ok | 21:34 |
| pleia2 | then we get the scripts! | 21:34 |
| pleia2 | the scripts live in launchpad, get them via: bzr branch lp:uwn | 21:35 |
| pleia2 | (anonymous is ok if you don't have bazaar set up, you won't be making any changes) | 21:35 |
| JoseeAntonioR | it's set up, and already branched | 21:35 |
| pleia2 | then I: cd uwn | 21:36 |
| JoseeAntonioR | and perl publish-uwn.pl? | 21:36 |
| pleia2 | and open up publish-uwn.pl in an editor | 21:36 |
| JoseeAntonioR | ooh | 21:36 |
| pleia2 | at the bottom there is a line: system("fridge/publish-uwn-fridge.pl $issue"); | 21:36 |
| pleia2 | for now we comment that out, since we'll run that script separately | 21:36 |
| JoseeAntonioR | done | 21:37 |
| pleia2 | (it has a lot of dependencies and sometimes running publish-uwn.pl doesn't quite wrk the first time) | 21:37 |
| pleia2 | now you do the: perl publish-uwn.pl 278 | 21:37 |
| pleia2 | you can run it too, so you can see the files it creates :) | 21:37 |
| JoseeAntonioR | you do, or I do? | 21:37 |
| JoseeAntonioR | oh, ok | 21:37 |
| pleia2 | it won't publish anything itself | 21:37 |
| JoseeAntonioR | oh, that's cool! | 21:38 |
| pleia2 | now open up issues/278/ubuntu-news.email and go to the bottom of the file to see if it's complete (it usually isn't on the first run for some reason) | 21:38 |
| pleia2 | if it cut off randomly somewhere, run the perl script again | 21:38 |
| JoseeAntonioR | fortunately, it's complete | 21:39 |
| pleia2 | cool | 21:39 |
| pleia2 | now what I do is create a plain text email | 21:40 |
| pleia2 | and use the To: and Subject: from that file | 21:40 |
| pleia2 | I also make sure I'm not using my personal signature in the email, and that I'm using my @ubuntu.com address | 21:41 |
| pleia2 | hmm, actually, maybe you should do this | 21:41 |
| pleia2 | let me add you as a moderated poster so I can review the message | 21:41 |
| JoseeAntonioR | ok! :) | 21:42 |
| nhandler | pleia2: Isn't everyone moderated on ubuntu-news@ ? Or did we change that? | 21:42 |
| pleia2 | nhandler: yeah, I just realized that | 21:42 |
| pleia2 | so he should be able to send to it as it is now | 21:43 |
| pleia2 | actually, need to check moderation settings | 21:43 |
| pleia2 | should be ok | 21:43 |
| JoseeAntonioR | some lines are cut in two lines, is that ok? | 21:44 |
| pleia2 | as long as they wrap at 80 lines, that's normal | 21:44 |
| pleia2 | if it looks good, go ahead and press send :) | 21:44 |
| pleia2 | I'll review it on the list admin side | 21:44 |
| JoseeAntonioR | they're 72-characters lines | 21:45 |
| pleia2 | ok, I'll look when it's sent | 21:45 |
| pleia2 | should be ok | 21:45 |
| JoseeAntonioR | sent | 21:45 |
| pleia2 | hm, mailman only wants to show an exerpt of the message | 21:47 |
| JoseeAntonioR | even if you click the [1] link? | 21:48 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 21:48 |
| pleia2 | I'm sure it's fine, just confirm in the email you sent that it ends with the "Except where otherwise noted, this issue of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 3.0 License" and no personal signature | 21:48 |
| JoseeAntonioR | that's it! | 21:49 |
| pleia2 | ok cool | 21:49 |
| pleia2 | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/2012-August/000356.html :) | 21:50 |
| pleia2 | looks good | 21:50 |
| pleia2 | now we send all the other emails | 21:50 |
| JoseeAntonioR | great | 21:50 |
| pleia2 | so open up issues/278/ubuntu-news-team.email and do the same | 21:51 |
| pleia2 | and then issues/278/loco-contacts.email | 21:51 |
| pleia2 | (I assume you're already subbed to these lists) | 21:52 |
| JoseeAntonioR | done | 21:52 |
| JoseeAntonioR | yep | 21:52 |
| pleia2 | perfect :) | 21:52 |
| pleia2 | now you can do the microblog | 21:53 |
| pleia2 | copy that text into twitter | 21:53 |
| pleia2 | jasna is now handling G+ and Facebook | 21:53 |
| pleia2 | and also say it here in this channel | 21:53 |
| JoseeAntonioR | The new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available here: | 21:54 |
| JoseeAntonioR | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue278 | 21:54 |
| pleia2 | eventually we'll also have our own UWN twitter account, but we're trying to track down the owners of @UWN and @UbuntuNews first | 21:54 |
| JoseeAntonioR | so, in the meanwhile, should I use the #uwn hashtag? | 21:55 |
| pleia2 | nah | 21:55 |
| JoseeAntonioR | there it goes! | 21:55 |
| pleia2 | great! | 21:55 |
| pleia2 | ok, now for the next one we want to run the fridge script | 21:56 |
| pleia2 | i'll actually run this and you can proof it after | 21:56 |
| JoseeAntonioR | ok | 21:56 |
| pleia2 | if you look at fridge/publish-uwn-fridge.pl | 21:56 |
| pleia2 | it has a place for username and password, do you have a username/password for fridge, or just openid? | 21:56 |
| JoseeAntonioR | both of them | 21:57 |
| pleia2 | ok, cool | 21:57 |
| pleia2 | so I ran it: | 21:57 |
| pleia2 | elizabeth@r2d2:~/uwn/fridge$ ./publish-uwn-fridge.pl 278 | 21:57 |
| pleia2 | Use of uninitialized value $credits in substitution (s///) at ./publish-uwn-fridge.pl line 41. | 21:57 |
| pleia2 | Use of uninitialized value $credits in concatenation (.) or string at ./publish-uwn-fridge.pl line 49. | 21:57 |
| pleia2 | http://fridge.ubuntu.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=5127&action=edit | 21:57 |
| pleia2 | elizabeth@r2d2:~/uwn/fridge$ | 21:57 |
| pleia2 | doh, that means it didn't grab the credits properly, I think it's an encoding issue, so we'll need to add those manually | 21:58 |
| JoseeAntonioR | :P | 21:58 |
| pleia2 | but go ahead and open that link | 21:58 |
| pleia2 | can you edit it? I just realized with me as owner you might not be able to :) | 21:59 |
| * pleia2 changes author to JoseeAntonioR | 21:59 | |
| JoseeAntonioR | :P | 21:59 |
| JoseeAntonioR | let me check | 21:59 |
| JoseeAntonioR | yep, I can | 21:59 |
| pleia2 | great, now you'll want to add the credits | 22:00 |
| pleia2 | so start: | 22:00 |
| pleia2 | <li>Elizabeth Krumbach</li> | 22:00 |
| pleia2 | etc from the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue278 | 22:00 |
| pleia2 | once that's done, do a preview to make sure it looks ok, and then you get to test all the links and fix the ones that broke due to encoding issues (fun!) | 22:01 |
| JoseeAntonioR | :P | 22:01 |
| pleia2 | save the draft and let me know when you're done :) | 22:01 |
| JoseeAntonioR | ok, I have 4 broken links | 22:03 |
| pleia2 | ok, so copy the proper links from the wiki | 22:03 |
| pleia2 | and put them in the post | 22:03 |
| JoseeAntonioR | hmm, seems like you added Featured Podcasts to the in this issue section | 22:04 |
| pleia2 | oops :) | 22:04 |
| pleia2 | you can remove that | 22:04 |
| JoseeAntonioR | ok :) | 22:04 |
| pleia2 | I pulled it from the wiki | 22:05 |
| pleia2 | nhandler: btw, the forums script is still putting in too many \n | 22:07 |
| JoseeAntonioR | pleia2: there are three links that still don't work! | 22:07 |
| pleia2 | JoseeAntonioR: ok, go to the wiki and copy them from the table of contents, so like | 22:08 |
| pleia2 | replace: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue278#Oliver_Grawert:_The_Bamboo_Feeder_-_automating_continuous_ARM_image_tests | 22:08 |
| pleia2 | with the link from the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue278#Oliver_Grawert:_The_Bamboo_Feeder_.2BIBM_automating_continuous_ARM_image_tests | 22:08 |
| JoseeAntonioR | done that, with that exact link, and doesn't work! | 22:10 |
| pleia2 | :\ | 22:10 |
| JoseeAntonioR | weird | 22:11 |
| JoseeAntonioR | saved the draft, and works now | 22:11 |
| pleia2 | ah, there you go | 22:11 |
| pleia2 | yeah, it doesn't always autosave quickly :) | 22:11 |
| JoseeAntonioR | ok, done and submitted | 22:12 |
| pleia2 | ok, looks good, I'll publish | 22:13 |
| pleia2 | http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2012/08/13/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-278/ \o/ | 22:13 |
| JoseeAntonioR | yay | 22:14 |
| pleia2 | alright, now the next step would be sending the forum.post to a forum moderator | 22:14 |
| pleia2 | our forums are at: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=243 | 22:14 |
| pleia2 | currently akgraner, nhandler and I can post there for the team | 22:14 |
| pleia2 | and while you were working on fridge I went ahead and posted it ;) | 22:15 |
| pleia2 | once we get you moderator there I'll show you how we manage that, but its not worth explaining just yet | 22:15 |
| pleia2 | now we update the wiki! | 22:15 |
| pleia2 | so go to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter | 22:16 |
| pleia2 | update that page to point to 278 as the current issue, and make 279 the Next Issue (work in progress) | 22:16 |
| nhandler | pleia2: Yeah, I don't think I ever managed to track down the cause of the forum line break thing (I can't remember if that existed in the old version of the script that someone else made) | 22:16 |
| JoseeAntonioR | should I leave August 6 - August 12 or just August 6-12? | 22:16 |
| pleia2 | JoseeAntonioR: you can change it to say August 6 - 12 | 22:17 |
| pleia2 | once that's done, directly to this link and change from 277 to 278: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Current?action=edit | 22:18 |
| pleia2 | and finally, go to the archive and add the issue: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Archive | 22:18 |
| JoseeAntonioR | urgh, current edited and still redirecting to 277 | 22:20 |
| pleia2 | yeah, it's just cached in your browser | 22:20 |
| pleia2 | it works fine :) | 22:21 |
| JoseeAntonioR | ok then :) | 22:21 |
| JoseeAntonioR | added to the archive | 22:21 |
| pleia2 | great | 22:22 |
| pleia2 | all done! now we start the next week :) | 22:22 |
| pleia2 | usually at this time I go ahead and create the template for the next week | 22:22 |
| pleia2 | so if you want to do that, go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue279 | 22:22 |
| pleia2 | and select the template "UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/IssueTemplate" | 22:23 |
| JoseeAntonioR | copied, and saved | 22:23 |
| pleia2 | great | 22:24 |
| bkerensa | JoseeAntonioR: http://i.imgur.com/AOQwc.jpg <-- Hot Sauces | 22:24 |
| bkerensa | :D | 22:24 |
| bkerensa | now I need some peruvian hot sauce | 22:24 |
| pleia2 | thanks JoseeAntonioR! | 22:24 |
| JoseeAntonioR | bkerensa: I can get you some ;) | 22:24 |
| pleia2 | now I need to get back to work :) | 22:24 |
| JoseeAntonioR | pleia2: thanks to you for taking your time :) | 22:24 |
| JoseeAntonioR | I'll just upload the missing images | 22:24 |
| bkerensa | JoseeAntonioR: I actually might have some... I have like 25+ bottls | 22:24 |
| JoseeAntonioR | :P | 22:24 |
| bkerensa | I even have some South Korean Hot Sauce ;p | 22:25 |
| JoseeAntonioR | all of them seem to be mexican | 22:25 |
| bkerensa | nah a few from Brazil and Costa Rica | 22:25 |
| nhandler | pleia2: Just pushed a very rough draft of a script to publish mailing list posts to the fridge (it saves them as a draft, it does not publish directly) | 23:19 |
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