[00:52] pleia2: writing the post for the fridge [02:05] ok, post submitted, if akgraner, pleia2 or nhandler could please take a look at it and check if it's fine [04:48] JoseeAntonioR: thanks :) but we typically just copy verbatim exactly what the mailing list post has, not rewrite it [04:49] oh, got it [04:50] (especially in this case, I asked the poster to mail the list exactly what he wanted to see on fridge :) [04:51] brb [04:51] ok! [04:55] updated the post, copied the exact mail, and fixed a couple grammar error [05:07] JoseeAntonioR: great, looks good, all done editing? [05:08] let me double check [05:10] done now [05:12] just updated the citation and added planet tag so it'll go to the planet [05:12] thank you :) [05:12] published [05:13] JoseeAntonioR: wanna follow up to the email to let them know it's been posted? [05:13] sure :P [05:13] :) * [05:13] you rock [05:14] you too ;) [05:17] btw, about comments moderation, I'll get to that every now and then [05:19] oops, seems I can't [05:20] once you're full fridge editor you will be able to [05:20] which should be soon :) [05:21] great :) [05:21] btw, page 1 are all complaints and pingbacks [05:21] and questions [05:22] page two: pingbacks, questions, and appropiate comments from smeg fridge and sheet sets I think [05:22] and page 3, do "great news :)" count as a comment? [05:35] JoseeAntonioR: these are all questions I struggle with :) [05:35] the short answer "I don't know" [05:35] :P [05:35] we should set a minimum word count for comments [05:38] is that easily done in WP? [05:38] erm, there should be a plugin for that [05:39] let me take a look at it and I'll get back to you [05:40] plugins are tricky since they all need to be code-reviewed and approved by Canonical before they'll isntall them :\ [05:40] ouch [05:40] then a template mod may work [05:41] also needs code review [05:41] urgh [05:41] probably not worth it if it's not part of core WP to be honest [05:42] I found this: http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/minimum-comment-length/ [05:42] but nope, not part of core WP [05:43] also, may be worth to disable pingbacks [05:43] yeah, that's a good idea [05:43] they are almost all useless [05:50] ok, I need to go get some rest, thanks for reviewing those :) [05:52] np, see you tomorrow! :) [05:52] 3pm your time, right? [07:06] hey, dholbach! [07:08] hey JoseeAntonioR [07:08] good morning [07:10] dholbach: mind a pm before I head to bed? [07:10] not at all [14:07] Middag [14:32] s/Middag/Afternoon [21:16] JoseeAntonioR: around for publishing? :) [21:16] pleia2: yep! [21:16] was about to ping you about that [21:17] anything I should know before starting? [21:17] I don't think so, can you do a hangout? [21:17] sure! :) [21:19] done, and invited [21:19] haha, I was setting one up too [21:19] :P [21:21] gah [21:22] pleia2: timeout? [21:23] silly plugin crashing :) [21:23] ok, we'll explain it here! [21:23] great [21:24] skype is there if you want to give it a try [21:24] so this *should* all be explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies [21:24] so we're currently on step 11 :) [21:24] ok [21:25] so first I open up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue278 and spot check it for any obvious problems [21:25] then I go to edit it to add the "In This Issue" section [21:26] how we decide what goes here is largely up to the releasers descretion, usually you just pick the best dozen or so headlines from the week and put them there [21:27] ok, should I include Ubuntu Stats and updates and security in there? [21:27] yeah, the last few will pretty much always be the same [21:28] * pleia2 notices Featured Podcasts headline still in there without anything else [21:28] I'll let you know when I'm done and post a diff [21:29] while I'm in here I can also do #12, removing stray comments [21:30] ok! [21:30] and I'll remove "Work in progress" [21:31] then, no comments or extras at all [21:31] question: [21:31] in case of words as LoCo, should the `` also be included in headlines? [21:32] no, only where they become linked [21:32] in headlines they don't :) [21:32] in this bulletpoint list they do, so I need to add them [21:33] * pleia2 waits for wiki [21:33] updated now :) [21:33] right, so you can see the changes I made: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue278?action=diff&rev2=14&rev1=13 [21:34] now I do one last eyeball of it to make sure it looks ok [21:34] then we get the scripts! [21:35] the scripts live in launchpad, get them via: bzr branch lp:uwn [21:35] (anonymous is ok if you don't have bazaar set up, you won't be making any changes) [21:35] it's set up, and already branched [21:36] then I: cd uwn [21:36] and perl publish-uwn.pl? [21:36] and open up publish-uwn.pl in an editor [21:36] ooh [21:36] at the bottom there is a line: system("fridge/publish-uwn-fridge.pl $issue"); [21:36] for now we comment that out, since we'll run that script separately [21:37] done [21:37] (it has a lot of dependencies and sometimes running publish-uwn.pl doesn't quite wrk the first time) [21:37] now you do the: perl publish-uwn.pl 278 [21:37] you can run it too, so you can see the files it creates :) [21:37] you do, or I do? [21:37] oh, ok [21:37] it won't publish anything itself [21:38] oh, that's cool! [21:38] now open up issues/278/ubuntu-news.email and go to the bottom of the file to see if it's complete (it usually isn't on the first run for some reason) [21:38] if it cut off randomly somewhere, run the perl script again [21:39] fortunately, it's complete [21:39] cool [21:40] now what I do is create a plain text email [21:40] and use the To: and Subject: from that file [21:41] I also make sure I'm not using my personal signature in the email, and that I'm using my @ubuntu.com address [21:41] hmm, actually, maybe you should do this [21:41] let me add you as a moderated poster so I can review the message [21:42] ok! :) [21:42] pleia2: Isn't everyone moderated on ubuntu-news@ ? Or did we change that? [21:42] nhandler: yeah, I just realized that [21:43] so he should be able to send to it as it is now [21:43] actually, need to check moderation settings [21:43] should be ok [21:44] some lines are cut in two lines, is that ok? [21:44] as long as they wrap at 80 lines, that's normal [21:44] if it looks good, go ahead and press send :) [21:44] I'll review it on the list admin side [21:45] they're 72-characters lines [21:45] ok, I'll look when it's sent [21:45] should be ok [21:45] sent [21:47] hm, mailman only wants to show an exerpt of the message [21:48] even if you click the [1] link? [21:48] yeah [21:48] I'm sure it's fine, just confirm in the email you sent that it ends with the "Except where otherwise noted, this issue of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 3.0 License" and no personal signature [21:49] that's it! [21:49] ok cool [21:50] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/2012-August/000356.html :) [21:50] looks good [21:50] now we send all the other emails [21:50] great [21:51] so open up issues/278/ubuntu-news-team.email and do the same [21:51] and then issues/278/loco-contacts.email [21:52] (I assume you're already subbed to these lists) [21:52] done [21:52] yep [21:52] perfect :) [21:53] now you can do the microblog [21:53] copy that text into twitter [21:53] jasna is now handling G+ and Facebook [21:53] and also say it here in this channel [21:54] The new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available here: [21:54] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue278 [21:54] eventually we'll also have our own UWN twitter account, but we're trying to track down the owners of @UWN and @UbuntuNews first [21:55] so, in the meanwhile, should I use the #uwn hashtag? [21:55] nah [21:55] there it goes! [21:55] great! [21:56] ok, now for the next one we want to run the fridge script [21:56] i'll actually run this and you can proof it after [21:56] ok [21:56] if you look at fridge/publish-uwn-fridge.pl [21:56] it has a place for username and password, do you have a username/password for fridge, or just openid? [21:57] both of them [21:57] ok, cool [21:57] so I ran it: [21:57] elizabeth@r2d2:~/uwn/fridge$ ./publish-uwn-fridge.pl 278 [21:57] Use of uninitialized value $credits in substitution (s///) at ./publish-uwn-fridge.pl line 41. [21:57] Use of uninitialized value $credits in concatenation (.) or string at ./publish-uwn-fridge.pl line 49. [21:57] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=5127&action=edit [21:57] elizabeth@r2d2:~/uwn/fridge$ [21:58] doh, that means it didn't grab the credits properly, I think it's an encoding issue, so we'll need to add those manually [21:58] :P [21:58] but go ahead and open that link [21:59] can you edit it? I just realized with me as owner you might not be able to :) [21:59] * pleia2 changes author to JoseeAntonioR [21:59] :P [21:59] let me check [21:59] yep, I can [22:00] great, now you'll want to add the credits [22:00] so start: [22:00]

Elizabeth Krumbach

[22:00] etc from the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue278 [22:01] once that's done, do a preview to make sure it looks ok, and then you get to test all the links and fix the ones that broke due to encoding issues (fun!) [22:01] :P [22:01] save the draft and let me know when you're done :) [22:03] ok, I have 4 broken links [22:03] ok, so copy the proper links from the wiki [22:03] and put them in the post [22:04] hmm, seems like you added Featured Podcasts to the in this issue section [22:04] oops :) [22:04] you can remove that [22:04] ok :) [22:05] I pulled it from the wiki [22:07] nhandler: btw, the forums script is still putting in too many \n [22:07] pleia2: there are three links that still don't work! [22:08] JoseeAntonioR: ok, go to the wiki and copy them from the table of contents, so like [22:08] replace: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue278#Oliver_Grawert:_The_Bamboo_Feeder_-_automating_continuous_ARM_image_tests [22:08] with the link from the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue278#Oliver_Grawert:_The_Bamboo_Feeder_.2BIBM_automating_continuous_ARM_image_tests [22:10] done that, with that exact link, and doesn't work! [22:10] :\ [22:11] weird [22:11] saved the draft, and works now [22:11] ah, there you go [22:11] yeah, it doesn't always autosave quickly :) [22:12] ok, done and submitted [22:13] ok, looks good, I'll publish [22:13] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2012/08/13/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-278/ \o/ [22:14] yay [22:14] alright, now the next step would be sending the forum.post to a forum moderator [22:14] our forums are at: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=243 [22:14] currently akgraner, nhandler and I can post there for the team [22:15] and while you were working on fridge I went ahead and posted it ;) [22:15] once we get you moderator there I'll show you how we manage that, but its not worth explaining just yet [22:15] now we update the wiki! [22:16] so go to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter [22:16] update that page to point to 278 as the current issue, and make 279 the Next Issue (work in progress) [22:16] pleia2: Yeah, I don't think I ever managed to track down the cause of the forum line break thing (I can't remember if that existed in the old version of the script that someone else made) [22:16] should I leave August 6 - August 12 or just August 6-12? [22:17] JoseeAntonioR: you can change it to say August 6 - 12 [22:18] once that's done, directly to this link and change from 277 to 278: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Current?action=edit [22:18] and finally, go to the archive and add the issue: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Archive [22:20] urgh, current edited and still redirecting to 277 [22:20] yeah, it's just cached in your browser [22:21] it works fine :) [22:21] ok then :) [22:21] added to the archive [22:22] great [22:22] all done! now we start the next week :) [22:22] usually at this time I go ahead and create the template for the next week [22:22] so if you want to do that, go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue279 [22:23] and select the template "UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/IssueTemplate" [22:23] copied, and saved [22:24] great [22:24] JoseeAntonioR: http://i.imgur.com/AOQwc.jpg <-- Hot Sauces [22:24] :D [22:24] now I need some peruvian hot sauce [22:24] thanks JoseeAntonioR! [22:24] bkerensa: I can get you some ;) [22:24] now I need to get back to work :) [22:24] pleia2: thanks to you for taking your time :) [22:24] I'll just upload the missing images [22:24] JoseeAntonioR: I actually might have some... I have like 25+ bottls [22:24] :P [22:25] I even have some South Korean Hot Sauce ;p [22:25] all of them seem to be mexican [22:25] nah a few from Brazil and Costa Rica [23:19] pleia2: Just pushed a very rough draft of a script to publish mailing list posts to the fridge (it saves them as a draft, it does not publish directly)