[00:52] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: writing the post for the fridge
[02:05] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, post submitted, if akgraner, pleia2 or nhandler could please take a look at it and check if it's fine
[04:48] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: thanks :) but we typically just copy verbatim exactly what the mailing list post has, not rewrite it
[04:49] <JoseeAntonioR> oh, got it
[04:50] <pleia2> (especially in this case, I asked the poster to mail the list exactly what he wanted to see on fridge :)
[04:51] <pleia2> brb
[04:51] <JoseeAntonioR> ok!
[04:55] <JoseeAntonioR> updated the post, copied the exact mail, and fixed a couple grammar error
[05:07] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: great, looks good, all done editing?
[05:08] <JoseeAntonioR> let me double check
[05:10] <JoseeAntonioR> done now
[05:12] <pleia2> just updated the citation and added planet tag so it'll go to the planet
[05:12] <pleia2> thank you :)
[05:12] <pleia2> published
[05:13] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: wanna follow up to the email to let them know it's been posted?
[05:13] <JoseeAntonioR> sure :P
[05:13] <JoseeAntonioR> :) *
[05:13] <pleia2> you rock
[05:14] <JoseeAntonioR> you too ;)
[05:17] <JoseeAntonioR> btw, about comments moderation, I'll get to that every now and then
[05:19] <JoseeAntonioR> oops, seems I can't
[05:20] <pleia2> once you're full fridge editor you will be able to
[05:20] <pleia2> which should be soon :)
[05:21] <JoseeAntonioR> great :)
[05:21] <JoseeAntonioR> btw, page 1 are all complaints and pingbacks
[05:21] <JoseeAntonioR> and questions
[05:22] <JoseeAntonioR> page two: pingbacks, questions, and appropiate comments from smeg fridge and sheet sets I think
[05:22] <JoseeAntonioR> and page 3, do "great news :)" count as a comment?
[05:35] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: these are all questions I struggle with :)
[05:35] <pleia2> the short answer "I don't know"
[05:35] <JoseeAntonioR> :P
[05:35] <JoseeAntonioR> we should set a minimum word count for comments
[05:38] <pleia2> is that easily done in WP?
[05:38] <JoseeAntonioR> erm, there should be a plugin for that
[05:39] <JoseeAntonioR> let me take a look at it and I'll get back to you
[05:40] <pleia2> plugins are tricky since they all need to be code-reviewed and approved by Canonical before they'll isntall them :\
[05:40] <JoseeAntonioR> ouch
[05:40] <JoseeAntonioR> then a template mod may work
[05:41] <pleia2> also needs code review
[05:41] <JoseeAntonioR> urgh
[05:41] <pleia2> probably not worth it if it's not part of core WP to be honest
[05:42] <JoseeAntonioR> I found this: http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/minimum-comment-length/
[05:42] <JoseeAntonioR> but nope, not part of core WP
[05:43] <JoseeAntonioR> also, may be worth to disable pingbacks
[05:43] <pleia2> yeah, that's a good idea
[05:43] <pleia2> they are almost all useless
[05:50] <pleia2> ok, I need to go get some rest, thanks for reviewing those :)
[05:52] <JoseeAntonioR> np, see you tomorrow! :)
[05:52] <JoseeAntonioR> 3pm your time, right?
[07:06] <JoseeAntonioR> hey, dholbach!
[07:08] <dholbach> hey JoseeAntonioR
[07:08] <dholbach> good morning
[07:10] <JoseeAntonioR> dholbach: mind a pm before I head to bed?
[07:10] <dholbach> not at all
[14:07] <MrChrisDruif> Middag
[14:32] <MrChrisDruif> s/Middag/Afternoon
[21:16] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: around for publishing? :)
[21:16] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: yep!
[21:16] <JoseeAntonioR> was about to ping you about that
[21:17] <JoseeAntonioR> anything I should know before starting?
[21:17] <pleia2> I don't think so, can you do a hangout?
[21:17] <JoseeAntonioR> sure! :)
[21:19] <JoseeAntonioR> done, and invited
[21:19] <pleia2> haha, I was setting one up too
[21:19] <JoseeAntonioR> :P
[21:21] <pleia2> gah
[21:22] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: timeout?
[21:23] <pleia2> silly plugin crashing :)
[21:23] <pleia2> ok, we'll explain it here!
[21:23] <JoseeAntonioR> great
[21:24] <JoseeAntonioR> skype is there if you want to give it a try
[21:24] <pleia2> so this *should* all be explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/EditingPolicies
[21:24] <pleia2> so we're currently on step 11 :)
[21:24] <JoseeAntonioR> ok
[21:25] <pleia2> so first I open up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue278 and spot check it for any obvious problems
[21:25] <pleia2> then I go to edit it to add the "In This Issue" section
[21:26] <pleia2> how we decide what goes here is largely up to the releasers descretion, usually you just pick the best dozen or so headlines from the week and put them there
[21:27] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, should I include Ubuntu Stats and updates and security in there?
[21:27] <pleia2> yeah, the last few will pretty much always be the same
[21:28]  * pleia2 notices Featured Podcasts headline still in there without anything else
[21:28] <pleia2> I'll let you know when I'm done and post a diff
[21:29] <pleia2> while I'm in here I can also do #12, removing stray comments
[21:30] <JoseeAntonioR> ok!
[21:30] <pleia2> and I'll remove "Work in progress"
[21:31] <JoseeAntonioR> then, no comments or extras at all
[21:31] <JoseeAntonioR> question:
[21:31] <JoseeAntonioR> in case of words as LoCo, should the `` also be included in headlines?
[21:32] <pleia2> no, only where they become linked
[21:32] <pleia2> in headlines they don't :)
[21:32] <pleia2> in this bulletpoint list they do, so I need to add them
[21:33]  * pleia2 waits for wiki
[21:33] <JoseeAntonioR> updated now :)
[21:33] <pleia2> right, so you can see the changes I made: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue278?action=diff&rev2=14&rev1=13
[21:34] <pleia2> now I do one last eyeball of it to make sure it looks ok
[21:34] <pleia2> then we get the scripts!
[21:35] <pleia2> the scripts live in launchpad, get them via: bzr branch lp:uwn
[21:35] <pleia2> (anonymous is ok if you don't have bazaar set up, you won't be making any changes)
[21:35] <JoseeAntonioR> it's set up, and already branched
[21:36] <pleia2> then I: cd uwn
[21:36] <JoseeAntonioR> and perl publish-uwn.pl?
[21:36] <pleia2> and open up publish-uwn.pl in an editor
[21:36] <JoseeAntonioR> ooh
[21:36] <pleia2> at the bottom there is a line: system("fridge/publish-uwn-fridge.pl $issue");
[21:36] <pleia2> for now we comment that out, since we'll run that script separately
[21:37] <JoseeAntonioR> done
[21:37] <pleia2> (it has a lot of dependencies and sometimes running publish-uwn.pl doesn't quite wrk the first time)
[21:37] <pleia2> now you do the: perl publish-uwn.pl 278
[21:37] <pleia2> you can run it too, so you can see the files it creates :)
[21:37] <JoseeAntonioR> you do, or I do?
[21:37] <JoseeAntonioR> oh, ok
[21:37] <pleia2> it won't publish anything itself
[21:38] <JoseeAntonioR> oh, that's cool!
[21:38] <pleia2> now open up issues/278/ubuntu-news.email and go to the bottom of the file to see if it's complete (it usually isn't on the first run for some reason)
[21:38] <pleia2> if it cut off randomly somewhere, run the perl script again
[21:39] <JoseeAntonioR> fortunately, it's complete
[21:39] <pleia2> cool
[21:40] <pleia2> now what I do is create a plain text email
[21:40] <pleia2> and use the To: and Subject: from that file
[21:41] <pleia2> I also make sure I'm not using my personal signature in the email, and that I'm using my @ubuntu.com address
[21:41] <pleia2> hmm, actually, maybe you should do this
[21:41] <pleia2> let me add you as a moderated poster so I can review the message
[21:42] <JoseeAntonioR> ok! :)
[21:42] <nhandler> pleia2: Isn't everyone moderated on ubuntu-news@ ? Or did we change that?
[21:42] <pleia2> nhandler: yeah, I just realized that
[21:43] <pleia2> so he should be able to send to it as it is now
[21:43] <pleia2> actually, need to check moderation settings
[21:43] <pleia2> should be ok
[21:44] <JoseeAntonioR> some lines are cut in two lines, is that ok?
[21:44] <pleia2> as long as they wrap at 80 lines, that's normal
[21:44] <pleia2> if it looks good, go ahead and press send :)
[21:44] <pleia2> I'll review it on the list admin side
[21:45] <JoseeAntonioR> they're 72-characters lines
[21:45] <pleia2> ok, I'll look when it's sent
[21:45] <pleia2> should be ok
[21:45] <JoseeAntonioR> sent
[21:47] <pleia2> hm, mailman only wants to show an exerpt of the message
[21:48] <JoseeAntonioR> even if you click the [1] link?
[21:48] <pleia2> yeah
[21:48] <pleia2> I'm sure it's fine, just confirm in the email you sent that it ends with the "Except where otherwise noted, this issue of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 3.0 License" and no personal signature
[21:49] <JoseeAntonioR> that's it!
[21:49] <pleia2> ok cool
[21:50] <pleia2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/2012-August/000356.html :)
[21:50] <pleia2> looks good
[21:50] <pleia2> now we send all the other emails
[21:50] <JoseeAntonioR> great
[21:51] <pleia2> so open up issues/278/ubuntu-news-team.email and do the same
[21:51] <pleia2> and then issues/278/loco-contacts.email
[21:52] <pleia2> (I assume you're already subbed to these lists)
[21:52] <JoseeAntonioR> done
[21:52] <JoseeAntonioR> yep
[21:52] <pleia2> perfect :)
[21:53] <pleia2> now you can do the microblog
[21:53] <pleia2> copy that text into twitter
[21:53] <pleia2> jasna is now handling G+ and Facebook
[21:53] <pleia2> and also say it here in this channel
[21:54] <JoseeAntonioR> The new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available here:
[21:54] <JoseeAntonioR> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue278
[21:54] <pleia2> eventually we'll also have our own UWN twitter account, but we're trying to track down the owners of @UWN and @UbuntuNews first
[21:55] <JoseeAntonioR> so, in the meanwhile, should I use the #uwn hashtag?
[21:55] <pleia2> nah
[21:55] <JoseeAntonioR> there it goes!
[21:55] <pleia2> great!
[21:56] <pleia2> ok, now for the next one we want to run the fridge script
[21:56] <pleia2> i'll actually run this and you can proof it after
[21:56] <JoseeAntonioR> ok
[21:56] <pleia2> if you look at fridge/publish-uwn-fridge.pl
[21:56] <pleia2> it has a place for username and password, do you have a username/password for fridge, or just openid?
[21:57] <JoseeAntonioR> both of them
[21:57] <pleia2> ok, cool
[21:57] <pleia2> so I ran it:
[21:57] <pleia2> elizabeth@r2d2:~/uwn/fridge$ ./publish-uwn-fridge.pl 278
[21:57] <pleia2> Use of uninitialized value $credits in substitution (s///) at ./publish-uwn-fridge.pl line 41.
[21:57] <pleia2> Use of uninitialized value $credits in concatenation (.) or string at ./publish-uwn-fridge.pl line 49.
[21:57] <pleia2> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/wp-admin/post.php?post=5127&action=edit
[21:57] <pleia2> elizabeth@r2d2:~/uwn/fridge$
[21:58] <pleia2> doh, that means it didn't grab the credits properly, I think it's an encoding issue, so we'll need to add those manually
[21:58] <JoseeAntonioR> :P
[21:58] <pleia2> but go ahead and open that link
[21:59] <pleia2> can you edit it? I just realized with me as owner you might not be able to :)
[21:59]  * pleia2 changes author to JoseeAntonioR 
[21:59] <JoseeAntonioR> :P
[21:59] <JoseeAntonioR> let me check
[21:59] <JoseeAntonioR> yep, I can
[22:00] <pleia2> great, now you'll want to add the credits
[22:00] <pleia2> so start:
Elizabeth Krumbach</li>
[22:00] <pleia2> etc from the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue278
[22:01] <pleia2> once that's done, do a preview to make sure it looks ok, and then you get to test all the links and fix the ones that broke due to encoding issues (fun!)
[22:01] <JoseeAntonioR> :P
[22:01] <pleia2> save the draft and let me know when you're done :)
[22:03] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, I have 4 broken links
[22:03] <pleia2> ok, so copy the proper links from the wiki
[22:03] <pleia2> and put them in the post
[22:04] <JoseeAntonioR> hmm, seems like you added Featured Podcasts to the in this issue section
[22:04] <pleia2> oops :)
[22:04] <pleia2> you can remove that
[22:04] <JoseeAntonioR> ok :)
[22:05] <pleia2> I pulled it from the wiki
[22:07] <pleia2> nhandler: btw, the forums script is still putting in too many \n
[22:07] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: there are three links that still don't work!
[22:08] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: ok, go to the wiki and copy them from the table of contents, so like
[22:08] <pleia2> replace: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue278#Oliver_Grawert:_The_Bamboo_Feeder_-_automating_continuous_ARM_image_tests
[22:08] <pleia2> with the link from the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue278#Oliver_Grawert:_The_Bamboo_Feeder_.2BIBM_automating_continuous_ARM_image_tests
[22:10] <JoseeAntonioR> done that, with that exact link, and doesn't work!
[22:10] <pleia2> :\
[22:11] <JoseeAntonioR> weird
[22:11] <JoseeAntonioR> saved the draft, and works now
[22:11] <pleia2> ah, there you go
[22:11] <pleia2> yeah, it doesn't always autosave quickly :)
[22:12] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, done and submitted
[22:13] <pleia2> ok, looks good, I'll publish
[22:13] <pleia2> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2012/08/13/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-278/ \o/
[22:14] <JoseeAntonioR> yay
[22:14] <pleia2> alright, now the next step would be sending the forum.post to a forum moderator
[22:14] <pleia2> our forums are at: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=243
[22:14] <pleia2> currently akgraner, nhandler and I can post there for the team
[22:15] <pleia2> and while you were working on fridge I went ahead and posted it ;)
[22:15] <pleia2> once we get you moderator there I'll show you how we manage that, but its not worth explaining just yet
[22:15] <pleia2> now we update the wiki!
[22:16] <pleia2> so go to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter
[22:16] <pleia2> update that page to point to 278 as the current issue, and make 279 the Next Issue (work in progress)
[22:16] <nhandler> pleia2: Yeah, I don't think I ever managed to track down the cause of the forum line break thing (I can't remember if that existed in the old version of the script that someone else made)
[22:16] <JoseeAntonioR> should I leave August 6 - August 12 or just August 6-12?
[22:17] <pleia2> JoseeAntonioR: you can change it to say August 6 - 12
[22:18] <pleia2> once that's done, directly to this link and change from 277 to 278: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Current?action=edit
[22:18] <pleia2> and finally, go to the archive and add the issue: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Archive
[22:20] <JoseeAntonioR> urgh, current edited and still redirecting to 277
[22:20] <pleia2> yeah, it's just cached in your browser
[22:21] <pleia2> it works fine :)
[22:21] <JoseeAntonioR> ok then :)
[22:21] <JoseeAntonioR> added to the archive
[22:22] <pleia2> great
[22:22] <pleia2> all done! now we start the next week :)
[22:22] <pleia2> usually at this time I go ahead and create the template for the next week
[22:22] <pleia2> so if you want to do that, go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue279
[22:23] <pleia2> and select the template "UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/IssueTemplate"
[22:23] <JoseeAntonioR> copied, and saved
[22:24] <pleia2> great
[22:24] <bkerensa> JoseeAntonioR: http://i.imgur.com/AOQwc.jpg  <-- Hot Sauces
[22:24] <bkerensa> :D
[22:24] <bkerensa> now I need some peruvian hot sauce
[22:24] <pleia2> thanks JoseeAntonioR!
[22:24] <JoseeAntonioR> bkerensa: I can get you some ;)
[22:24] <pleia2> now I need to get back to work :)
[22:24] <JoseeAntonioR> pleia2: thanks to you for taking your time :)
[22:24] <JoseeAntonioR> I'll just upload the missing images
[22:24] <bkerensa> JoseeAntonioR: I actually might have some... I have like 25+ bottls
[22:24] <JoseeAntonioR> :P
[22:25] <bkerensa> I even have some South Korean Hot Sauce ;p
[22:25] <JoseeAntonioR> all of them seem to be mexican
[22:25] <bkerensa> nah a few from Brazil and Costa Rica
[23:19] <nhandler> pleia2: Just pushed a very rough draft of a script to publish mailing list posts to the fridge (it saves them as a draft, it does not publish directly)