[06:34] <Liboan> ~
[07:18] <christel> morning :)
[07:30] <jacobw> morning
[07:31] <dwatkins> g'day
[07:57] <popey> Morning
[08:00] <czajkowski> ALOHA!!!
[08:00] <rajeev> i am installing ubuntu 1st time
[08:00] <rajeev> and i want to install it with window 7
[08:01] <rajeev> while i am installing it with window7 it creats error
[08:01] <rajeev> no root file system is defined
[08:01] <rajeev> plese tell me somehing regarding this
[08:03] <rajeev> please help me
[08:03] <rajeev> give me my answer
[08:04] <AlanBell> hi
[08:04] <AlanBell> did you let it resize the partitions?
[08:05] <rajeev> yes i shrink the volume
[08:05] <rajeev> with 20 gb of space
[08:05] <TheOpenSourcerer> AlanBell: You are supposed to be on holiday ;-)
[08:05]  * czajkowski managed 9 days off IRC 
[08:06]  * TheOpenSourcerer loved this picture at Stratford Station this morning: http://yfrog.com/mg9ybnj
[08:09] <rajeev> hey please anyone give me my answer
[08:11] <AlanBell> http://askubuntu.com/questions/80455/no-root-file-system-defined-error-while-installing-ubuntu
[08:12] <AlanBell> snorkling or surfing or sandcastles
[08:12] <AlanBell> I cam't decide
[08:14] <TheOpenSourcerer> Why not build a sandcastle with a snorkel in the surf?
[08:19] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:28] <christel> bigclam!
[08:28] <christel> czajkowski!
[08:28] <bigcalm> chirstel!
[08:29] <czajkowski> christel: ello ello
[08:29] <bigcalm> czajkowski: love the new photo, it's so sweet :)
[08:29] <bigcalm> christel: how are you my dear?
[08:29] <christel> how are you pretty girl?
[08:29] <christel> bigcalm: i am well!
[08:29] <bigcalm> Yay :)
[08:29]  * bigcalm is a pretty girl?
[08:29] <czajkowski> bigcalm: thanks
[08:30] <christel> bigcalm: haha that was for czajkowski silly
[08:30] <christel> for a girl you're not at all pretty, sorry :P
[08:30] <bigcalm> :P
[08:30] <bigcalm> Haha
[08:30] <czajkowski> :)
[08:30]  * bigcalm scratches his stubbly chin
[08:35] <christel> david is "kindly" playing the piano for us
[08:35] <christel> it is rather... dramatic
[08:36]  * bigcalm imagines Peanuts
[08:38]  * TheOpenSourcerer has just booked his ticket for the West Dean Chilli Fiesta :-D
[08:41] <christel> .4
[08:41] <christel> er
[08:41] <christel> TheOpenSourcerer: ooh did you do well with your chillis this year btw?
[08:41] <TheOpenSourcerer> No. :-(
[08:42] <christel> oh :(
[08:42] <TheOpenSourcerer> They are in the greenhouse - I have a few fruit but not much.
[08:42] <TheOpenSourcerer> The seedlings did something very odd early on. They just "stopped" growing for about 2-3 months.
[08:43] <TheOpenSourcerer> Didn't die. Just stopped. Only at the 2-leaf stage. So the plants are now well behind and have little chance of catching up before the end of the season.
[08:43] <christel> how bizarre
[08:47] <bigcalm> How do you find out which branch a git repo is using from the CLI?
[08:48] <directhex> bigcalm, "git branch", the one with a star next to it?
[08:49] <bigcalm> directhex: ta
[08:50] <bigcalm> Ug, I can't tell if it's the project's information I'm getting or the sub-repo
[08:50]  * bigcalm kippers technical things
[08:55] <czajkowski> bigcalm: sort out a plan B yet
[08:55] <bigcalm> czajkowski: not yet. I want to discuss with my boss and see what he's willing to provide
[08:56] <czajkowski> bigcalm: you work from home you provide :)
[08:56] <bigcalm> czajkowski: maybe with your company :)
[08:57] <czajkowski> bigcalm: every company :)
[08:57] <czajkowski> dell install a logged on laptops
[09:06] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[09:18] <mungojerry> does gnote offer web sync like tomboy yet?
[09:20] <mungojerry> hmmm looks like it will come soon "  * Added core synchronization support"
[09:23] <directhex> web sync is much harder than file sync
[09:31] <mungojerry> ssh and web dav sync is done already
[09:31] <mungojerry> so looks like they are progressing
[09:32] <mungojerry> haven't seen any discussion on a devs list about it though, would be nice to see milestones etc
[09:33] <popey> gnote has promised web sync since it was started
[09:33] <popey> and has as yet not delivered
[09:33] <mungojerry> popey, as yet no, but the sync stuff they have added has all been done in last 6 months
[09:33] <mungojerry> so are getting there, albeit a little slowly
[09:34] <mungojerry> i realised tomboy is the last mono app on my system
[09:34] <popey> you mean.. 6 months ago
[09:34] <ali1234> "patches welcome"
[09:34] <mungojerry> separate releases over the last 6 months, the latest being july
[09:34] <mungojerry> july 0.9.1 added webdav sync
[09:35] <popey> ah ok
[09:36] <mungojerry> i have no major agenda against mono but a c++ app for such a useful yet small app fwould be welcome
[09:36] <mungojerry> otherwise it adds quite a lot of MB just for a note app
[09:36] <mungojerry> similarly i don't install digikam because it requires half of kde
[09:37] <popey> yeah, i tried out gnote recently
[09:37] <popey> still have it installed, but the lack of sync is annoying
[09:37] <mungojerry> which version?
[09:37] <popey> whatever is in 12.04
[09:38] <popey> i note 0.9 is in quantal
[09:38] <popey> updated a couple of weeks ago with those updates
[09:38] <popey> could try installing that package to test the sync stuff
[09:38] <mungojerry> webdav sync allows DIYers to use owncloud for sync
[09:39] <popey> http://ubuntu.mirror.cambrium.nl/ubuntu//pool/universe/g/gnote/gnote_0.9.1-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[09:39] <popey> that installed okay on 12.04
[09:39] <popey> and runs okay, and sees all my tomboy notes
[09:40] <mungojerry> u1 sync is pretty critical for me atm, as i use tomdroid onthe phone
[09:40] <daubers> I was almost tempted to run a web service using mono's asp.net implimentation. Then I realised I was being sentimental for when I used to work in Windows and forced myself to do it in the language I'm supposed to be specialising in
[09:41]  * popey tries gnote for a week
[09:42] <mungojerry> popey, how will you sync?
[09:42] <popey> files to u1
[09:42] <mungojerry> i thought you told me you did that once and it went BAD
[09:42] <popey> hmm, status bar icon doesn't work
[09:42] <popey> depends how you do it
[09:42] <popey> i no longer sync to osx/windows
[09:43] <popey> and only ever have gnote/tomboy open on one machine
[09:43] <popey> whereas back then I had it open on all 3 platforms a lot of the time
[09:43] <popey> so would get conflicts and notes would vanish as dropbox/u1 messed up
[09:44] <mungojerry> i see
[09:49] <gord> something feels wrong about watching a youtube video in HD, when its just zx spectrum games
[09:50] <daubers> gord: Horace goes ski-ing?
[09:50] <gord> ashens
[09:53] <czajkowski> anyone here running Jellybean and 12.04 ??
[10:18] <sagaci> czajkowski, yep, android 4.1.1 and 12.04
[10:21] <davmor2> morning all
[10:21] <czajkowski> sagaci: when you hook your phone up to ubuntu does it open?
[10:22] <czajkowski> mine just spins and refuses to open
[10:22] <bigcalm> Morning davmor2
[10:23] <davmor2> czajkowski: Prod, Prod, Prod, Prod, Prod, Prod, Prod, Prod, Prod, Prod.......That'll teach you to go on holiday :P Morning
[10:23] <popey> czajkowski, what spins, the phone or ubuntu?
[10:24] <Dave2> imagining the phone being plugged in, levitating, then rotating.
[10:24] <sagaci> mine works normal, OK to USB storage and turns up as a device in nautilus, opens two dialogs - one asking what to do with digital photos and the other for audio
[10:25] <sagaci> nexus S
[10:25] <czajkowski> popey: phone
[10:25] <czajkowski> davmor2: miss me much eh
[10:25] <czajkowski> sagaci: thanks
[10:25] <czajkowski> will try again
[10:27] <popey> what does dmesg say?
[10:27] <davmor2> czajkowski: Nah picked on christel instead to ease the withdrawal :D
[10:30] <czajkowski> popey: [14084.474083] usb 1-1.3: new high-speed USB device number 3 using ehci_hcd
[10:30] <popey> that all?
[10:31] <popey> i thought you have to tell the phone to be a mountable device or something
[10:31] <czajkowski> popey: Sorry, could not display all the contents of "Galaxy Nexus": DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[10:31] <popey> bug 972311
[10:32] <czajkowski> ahh
[10:32] <TheOpenSourcerer> Hah - Good bet here against the Aussies: http://www.culture.gov.uk/news/news_stories/9232.aspx
[10:33]  * popey notes all I did was google the text you posted czajkowski and that bug was first hit :)
[10:33] <czajkowski> anyone coming to tje open stack meet up in London in September ?? http://www.meetup.com/Openstack-London/events/77153502/
[10:33] <TheOpenSourcerer> czajkowski: Yeah - I am.
[10:34] <czajkowski> popey: only stumlbed upon it since coming back just wondered off hand
[10:34] <czajkowski> popey: thanks :)
[11:28] <TheOpenSourcerer> PC h/w boffs: I need a cheap upgrade to the kids' desktop PC. Case & PSU OK. Does this look OK for "daily use"? http://www.ebuyer.com/lists/list/33111
[11:29] <davmor2> bigcalm: good weekend?
[11:29] <bigcalm> davmor2: I think so. Managed to get a hair cut
[11:30] <davmor2> bigcalm: was it that long one at the back?
[11:30] <bigcalm> davmor2: the one on my shoulder actually
[11:31] <popey> TheOpenSourcerer, you got a 3d card for that?
[11:31] <TheOpenSourcerer> no - wont the built-in gpu be enough?
[11:32] <popey> for what?
[11:32] <TheOpenSourcerer> Unity & Minecraft
[11:32] <popey> might have to dial down the detail on minecraft a bit
[11:33] <popey> dunno, i3 has a not-very-stellar GPU
[11:33] <TheOpenSourcerer> Hmm, ok. What about the AMD chips with the built-in Radeon then... Any good?
[11:34] <popey> I wouldn't touch AMD Radeon with a very long very shitty stick
[11:34] <TheOpenSourcerer> lol
[11:34] <TheOpenSourcerer> hmm - http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fusion-intel-core-i3_7.html
[11:35] <popey> i5 3570K has nicer GPU
[11:35] <TheOpenSourcerer> That's way out of my price bracket for now.
[11:35] <popey> i5 2320 has the same as the i3 you looked at
[11:35] <popey> yeah, bit spendy
[11:48] <Oli> It's a shame AMD can't made a decent CPU these days.
[12:02] <ali1234> all kids need hardware vx support
[12:04] <ali1234> wow, all those CPUs actually support it
[12:22] <drussell> TheOpenSourcerer: yeah I'd say that's not bad for the price
[12:23] <TheOpenSourcerer> Think I'm going to grab a 2125 instead of the 2120 (better IGP)
[12:23] <drussell> TheOpenSourcerer: either way it'll be a HUGE step up from the AMD 3400+ ;o)
[12:25] <drussell> TheOpenSourcerer: I've got a low power/silent box which has the AMD A450 APU in it, and while for my purposes it's very good, I'd struggle to recommend it due to it requiring the closed source amd/ati drivers, radeon driver doesn't drive it enough yet
[12:33] <AlanBell> http://ratemyspicerack.com/martijnvds/
[12:40] <shauno> these people are making me feel quite bad about the mess I call a kitchen
[12:49] <christel> ooo spicy racks \o/
[12:49]  * Dave2 still needs a rack
[12:50] <TheOpenSourcerer> popey: drussell: thanks for the input - just ordered with the 2125 from Amazon for £6 more than the 2120 from Ebuyer :-)
[12:50]  * TheOpenSourcerer failed to get his massive spice collection pictured and annotated yesterday.
[12:52] <drussell> TheOpenSourcerer: hehehe good job
[12:52] <drussell> TheOpenSourcerer: me too (wrt RMSR) maybe later this week
[12:55] <popey> ooh TheOpenSourcerer the 2125 is a nice balance
[12:55] <TheOpenSourcerer> Yeah - it has the HD3000 IGP
[12:56] <TheOpenSourcerer> Ebuyer didn't list it.
[13:02]  * TheOpenSourcerer and his two boys will all be visiting the dentist a bit later...
[13:03] <brobostigon> good luck.
[13:44] <TheOpenSourcerer> Woah - "... on the busiest day, the BBC delivered 2.8 petabytes, with the peak traffic moment occurring when Bradley Wiggins won Gold with over 700 Gb/s"
[13:44] <TheOpenSourcerer> http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2012/sport-online-figures.html
[13:45] <czajkowski> dates for FOSDEM are out folks!!! https://fosdem.org/2013/
[14:23]  * andatche sigh
[14:23] <andatche> upstart
[14:38]  * bigcalm returns from the depths of hell that is Tesco
[14:38] <dwatkins> impressive stuff, TheOpenSourcerer
[14:38] <dwatkins> bigcalm: I assume you know of the boycott movement against Tesco, or do you just mean that it's full of screaming people? ;)
[14:39] <bigcalm> dwatkins: small children
[14:39] <davmor2> bigcalm: that's not fair.......on hell
[14:39]  * bigcalm grumbles
[14:40] <bigcalm> dwatkins: Geoffrey?
[14:40] <dwatkins> bigcalm: sorry?
[14:40]  * dwatkins is a Dom not a Geoff
[14:41] <bigcalm> Geoffrey Boycott
[14:41] <bigcalm> Anyway...
[14:41] <dwatkins> ahhhh
[14:41] <dwatkins> on other news...
[14:41] <dwatkins> ...Debian is switching to xfce
[14:43] <bigcalm> Dave2, christel: we've lost cz<tab>. Quick, fix things and bring her back!
[14:46] <Dave2> bigcalm: crisi seaverted
[14:46] <Dave2> er
[14:46] <Dave2> crises averted
[14:46] <Dave2> crisis
[14:46]  * Dave2 really needs more sleep.
[14:47] <bigcalm> Dave2: I agree. Best get some before the weekend eh?
[14:47] <Dave2> bigcalm: I've consistently failed every day for about 3 weeks now, I'm hoping I can on Thursday/Friday
[14:48] <bigcalm> Dave2: you expect to sleep Friday night?
[14:48] <Dave2> no, Thusday night/Friday morning
[14:48] <bigcalm> I see
[14:48] <Dave2> From what I can remember of sleeping in hotels, I'm horrible at it, regardless of anything else.
[14:49] <Dave2> At least, I failed at LRL 09, 08, and 07. I think they're the most recent times I've been in a hotel.
[14:49] <Dave2> Maybe not the most representative
[14:50] <gord> the trick is to stay awake drinking all night until you are so tired you fall asleep instantly
[14:51] <Dave2> That doesn't work for me :(
[14:51] <bigcalm> gord: are you going to oggcamp this year?
[14:52] <Dave2> I think the last time I was in a hotel before LRL2007 was in 1996. That can't be right.
[14:52] <gord> nope
[14:54] <bigcalm> Sucky
[14:54] <bigcalm> And it's not that far away from you
[15:02] <christel> SUCKY SUCKY
[15:23] <directhex> TEN DOLLAH
[15:24] <mungojerry> ahem
[15:25] <mungojerry> glad i didn't arrange to go to oggcamp this year. wifey has turned into an invalid due to morning sickness and i am single parent atm
[15:30] <czajkowski> poor wifey with hubby who descibes her as that
[15:31] <popey> anyone here use vmware to run ubuntu inside?
[15:31] <popey> vmware has similar "guest extensions" to virtualbox right?
[15:31] <ali1234> yes
[15:31] <ali1234> i have not used it in years though
[15:32] <directhex> v,ware tools
[15:32] <popey> are they in the repo?
[15:32] <popey> or do you have to install them post-install?
[15:32] <popey> with virtualbox they get automagically installed AIUI "virtualbox-guest-x11" is pulled in by ubiquity
[15:32] <popey> but I don't know what happens in parallels and vmware
[15:34] <ali1234> not here it wasn't
[15:34] <ali1234> have to download the CD image through virtualbox UI every single time
[15:35] <ali1234> i would guess that if vmware tools is in the repo, it's probably going to be behind the vmware current release, and you need the tools to match the host version... so if vmware wasn't from repos, download it manually anyway
[15:35] <directhex> bigger issue: kernel vers
[15:36] <popey> and xorg abi
[15:36] <directhex> vmware sucks at tracking kernel api
[15:36] <ali1234> this is why i haven't used it in years
[15:40] <ali1234> what's the deal with transfering iTunes to a new computer?
[15:40] <gord> and whats the deal with airline food?
[15:40] <ali1234> do i need to do anything special?
[15:42] <ali1234> the apple docs are well confusing
[15:57] <czajkowski> popey: can you mod a mail please :)
[15:58] <popey> czajkowski, eh?
[15:59] <czajkowski> bah thought that went to pm
[16:10] <ali1234> interesting...
[16:10] <ali1234> if you download skype from skype.com using ubuntu it just gives you the installer
[16:11] <ali1234> if you use windows it tries to make you sign in first
[16:11] <ali1234> this is when downloading the windows version
[16:12] <gord> they have a different installer
[16:12] <gord> it comes pre-setup and stuff
[16:13] <ali1234> yes. they must recognise that since i am downloading the windows version on ubuntu, i am most likely installing it for someone else
[16:13] <ali1234> which is true
[17:25] <jacobw> evening
[17:29] <Flashtek> evening
[19:14] <sebsebseb> hi
[22:01] <dwatkins> lo
[22:05] <Azelphur> got one of my funky korean monitors today
[22:05] <Azelphur> :D
[22:05] <Azelphur> I think the other ones missed the plane and will arrive tomorrow lol
[22:12] <Azelphur> got my galaxy S3 coming tomorrow, think I'mma pull an all nighter and just camp in front of the door jumping up and down like an excited puppy. XD
[22:33] <bigcalm> Evening peeps :)
[22:35] <dogmatic69> sup
[22:43] <bigcalm> Erm, sleep :D
[22:43] <bigcalm> Night peeps :)
[23:07] <shauno> may be interesting to a couple here, that mk802 "android on a thumbstick" gizmo 55 quid on ibood
[23:12] <Azelphur> shauno: I'd rather just get a nexus 7 xD