| netritious | Wake up! | 13:26 |
|---|---|---|
| netritious | Grab a brush and put on a little makeup... | 13:27 |
| netritious | sorry, have that song stuck in my head lol. | 13:29 |
| xTEMPLARx | :D | 13:32 |
| netritious | mornin' xTEMPLARx | 13:33 |
| xTEMPLARx | morning sir | 13:34 |
| netritious | hm, just found out that dd-wrt has a ssh vulnerablity | 13:37 |
| wrst | morning morning! | 13:39 |
| netritious | morning wrst | 13:39 |
| wrst | netritious: all going well? | 13:40 |
| netritious | wrst: doing great. yourself? | 13:42 |
| wrst | diong well netritious actually have monday rolling pretty well | 13:43 |
| netritious | SFW: http://imgur.com/wt030 | 13:48 |
| netritious | ran metasploit, and nessus is running against it now. | 13:53 |
| wrst | ahh cool | 13:56 |
| wrst | i was about to ask :) | 13:56 |
| netritious | I'm curious how the snort/pulledpork/barnyard2/mysql/apache/passenger/ruby on rails/snorby thingamabob holds up. :) | 13:56 |
| wrst | haha way over my head but i wish you well :) | 13:57 |
| netritious | it's not rocket science, just software ;) | 13:59 |
| netritious | Intrusion Detection System is what I have now, and isn't ideal atm. | 13:59 |
| netritious | Intrusion Detection/Prevention System is what I'm after, just not as some prepackaged firewall thing like with pfsense. | 14:00 |
| alyawn | netritious, lol at the singing this morning | 14:39 |
| wrst | hello gld1982ltd | 14:42 |
| wrst | and alyawn how you doing? | 14:42 |
| alyawn | doing ok... cowboy coding for a delivery at 5:00 today | 14:59 |
| xTEMPLARx | whee | 16:27 |
| netritious | alyawn: it's a great song. It typically gets stuck in my head when I tell myself to 'wake up' lol | 16:54 |
| netritious | stop having so much fun xTEMPLARx | 16:55 |
| xTEMPLARx | sorry | 16:55 |
| netritious | I heard it can make you go blind. | 16:55 |
| xTEMPLARx | its a sickness, netritious | 16:55 |
| netritious | lol | 16:55 |
| binarymutant | omg I'm starting to really hate the nouveau driver :( | 17:30 |
| gld1982ltd | hello to you too wrst | 17:33 |
| gld1982ltd | i just got approved for the team. nice to meet you all. | 17:33 |
| binarymutant | hello | 17:34 |
| gld1982ltd | does anyone here work with bazaar and packaging? | 17:34 |
| binarymutant | I've used bzr and have done packaging | 17:35 |
| binarymutant | brb though | 17:35 |
| gld1982ltd | ok | 17:36 |
| xTEMPLARx | gold 1982 LTD? | 17:37 |
| xTEMPLARx | you like the car? or is there another connotation :D | 17:37 |
| gld1982ltd | gld1982ltd. gary lee delaney 1982 limited | 17:37 |
| xTEMPLARx | okay PHWEW | 17:37 |
| gld1982ltd | lol | 17:37 |
| xTEMPLARx | coz the 82 LTD's were ugly cars :D | 17:37 |
| gld1982ltd | i hate gold | 17:38 |
| gld1982ltd | i don't know what a l | 17:38 |
| gld1982ltd | LTD is. lol | 17:38 |
| xTEMPLARx | Ford LTD Crown Victoria: http://bit.ly/OeA7Gw | 17:39 |
| gld1982ltd | lol....yeah, that's pretty ugly. | 17:39 |
| xTEMPLARx | =] | 17:40 |
| binarymutant | back on buggy nvidia :/ | 17:41 |
| gld1982ltd | brb | 17:41 |
| binarymutant | weird thing is the nvidia splash screen said "bad driver" in red on it... what's that about? | 17:41 |
| xTEMPLARx | probably just Nvidia's little way to tell you to stop hogging the fast lane on the interstate | 17:49 |
| binarymutant | well it's ████ing weird >:( | 17:52 |
| wrst | gld1982ltd: yes i think i was the one that had the honor of "approving" you :) glad you are here | 17:54 |
| xTEMPLARx | binarymutant: what version of the nvidia driver do you have in place? | 17:58 |
| gld1982ltd | wrst: thank you. | 17:58 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: wow you are still here :P | 17:59 |
| gld1982ltd | xTEMPLARx: i've never seen that before. | 17:59 |
| xTEMPLARx | wrst: we can make arrangements to the contrary :D | 17:59 |
| gld1982ltd | yeah, i had to go to the store real quick. | 17:59 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: no then you would leave for like two years | 17:59 |
| xTEMPLARx | could be | 18:00 |
| xTEMPLARx | lol | 18:00 |
| xTEMPLARx | till the next ebb or tide of my whim brought me back | 18:00 |
| wrst | and i'm still looking at guitar parts | 18:00 |
| xTEMPLARx | lumber? | 18:00 |
| xTEMPLARx | or do you mean parts someone else has already done all the work on :D | 18:00 |
| xTEMPLARx | stay away from http://www.warmoth.com then | 18:00 |
| xTEMPLARx | so many beautiful parts there | 18:01 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: no i'm not going to start with a slab of wood | 18:01 |
| wrst | i have lots of challenges before i make it to that point | 18:01 |
| xTEMPLARx | slab? you should start with a sapling | 18:01 |
| wrst | nourish the tree so i can cut it down? | 18:01 |
| xTEMPLARx | :D | 18:01 |
| wrst | hmm my dad has beef cattle so that's what he does | 18:02 |
| binarymutant | xTEMPLARx: 304.32 | 18:02 |
| binarymutant | I think it's because I don't have acpi on here, but there's no other errors in my xorg.log | 18:03 |
| wrst | binarymutant: more nvidia issues? :\ | 18:04 |
| binarymutant | wrst: well I left nvidia for nouveau for awhile, just came back | 18:04 |
| wrst | ahh | 18:04 |
| wrst | that stinks i've just never had issues with nvidia so don't really know what to do there | 18:04 |
| binarymutant | same issues as before but now the splash screen is saying "bad driver" in red, which is weird | 18:04 |
| wrst | that isn't comforting | 18:05 |
| binarymutant | it says bad driver but it works | 18:05 |
| xTEMPLARx | hrm... i'm using 295.49 binarymutant | 18:05 |
| xTEMPLARx | that is a strange thing | 18:05 |
| xTEMPLARx | compositing and all working normally? | 18:05 |
| binarymutant | idk about compositing bc I don't use that, but glx works great | 18:06 |
| xTEMPLARx | rgr | 18:07 |
| binarymutant | it's gotta be bc I don't have acpi | 18:07 |
| binarymutant | oh well | 18:07 |
| gld1982ltd | I am using 173 on one and current on another. works fine. what kind of computer are you running on, binarymutant? | 18:07 |
| binarymutant | dell latitude d630 with the quadro nvs 135m card | 18:09 |
| binarymutant | the newer nvidia drivers have been super buggy on it | 18:09 |
| xTEMPLARx | super buggy | 18:10 |
| xTEMPLARx | the amish speed demon | 18:10 |
| xTEMPLARx | NASCART | 18:10 |
| binarymutant | lol | 18:11 |
| xTEMPLARx | sorry | 18:11 |
| binarymutant | I actually got it | 18:11 |
| xTEMPLARx | flow of consciousness(?) there | 18:11 |
| xTEMPLARx | :D | 18:11 |
| xTEMPLARx | wb | 18:14 |
| gld1982ltd1 | binarymutant: how did you install the nvidia drivers? | 18:17 |
| binarymutant | through my package manager | 18:18 |
| gld1982ltd1 | and what flavor ubuntu? | 18:18 |
| binarymutant | the archlinux flavor :P | 18:18 |
| gld1982ltd1 | lol | 18:18 |
| gld1982ltd1 | ahhh | 18:19 |
| xTEMPLARx | that explains why you have access to 300+ version | 18:19 |
| binarymutant | yeah | 18:19 |
| xTEMPLARx | latest in ubuntu repos is 295.40 | 18:19 |
| xTEMPLARx | danged old archlinux | 18:20 |
| gld1982ltd1 | have you read through this page? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nvidia | 18:20 |
| wrst | gld1982ltd1: you will have to a excuse a few people in here they run things other than ubuntu... i can't imagine why however | 18:20 |
| xTEMPLARx | bleeding edge hipster linux is what they shoulda called it | 18:20 |
| xTEMPLARx | wrst is one of the guilty | 18:20 |
| wrst | what me??? | 18:20 |
| xTEMPLARx | wrst: CONFESS | 18:20 |
| gld1982ltd1 | wrst: lol...i also run other things, but i usually look in the distro specific irc rooms for help. | 18:20 |
| * wrst hands xTEMPLARx his confession | 18:21 | |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: yes but the driver itself contains known bugs when used with my specific card | 18:21 |
| gld1982ltd1 | lmaorotf | 18:21 |
| * xTEMPLARx peruses the confession. Nicely done... nicely done... | 18:21 | |
| gld1982ltd1 | binarymutant: have you tried an earlier versin of the nvidia drivers? | 18:21 |
| wrst | thank you xTEMPLARx | 18:21 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: no I don't want to downgrade Xorg | 18:22 |
| binarymutant | debian sid's nvidia version has the same bugs so I bet ubuntu has them too | 18:22 |
| gld1982ltd1 | i see. i had the same problem with (l)ubuntu 12.04. i had to wait for the drivers to be updated. | 18:22 |
| gld1982ltd1 | i run some old hardware. | 18:23 |
| binarymutant | I think nvidia dropped or is in the process of dropping my card | 18:23 |
| wrst | i have had that with ati card i had a couple years ago... i think ati pretty much dropped about half their cards at that time | 18:25 |
| gld1982ltd1 | i agree with linus on the subject of nvidia - http://bit.ly/Mea2aj | 18:25 |
| binarymutant | oh yeah | 18:25 |
| wrst | i hear that but i must say i have better luck with them than anything else, of course other than intel but if i want performance | 18:26 |
| gld1982ltd1 | so true, so sad | 18:28 |
| binarymutant | not being able to switch consoles, or reboot, or shutdown is a very serious bug though. I doubt ati or intel have that problem | 18:28 |
| binarymutant | and then there was that blue tint bug earlier this year | 18:28 |
| wrst | binarymutant: i think that was more a flash thing wasnt' it? | 18:28 |
| binarymutant | idk | 18:28 |
| wrst | because the patch to fix that involved flash | 18:28 |
| wrst | i remember seeing that somewhere that was their parting gift to the linux world | 18:29 |
| binarymutant | no it involved nvidia's vpau option or something | 18:29 |
| binarymutant | <- can't remember lol | 18:29 |
| wrst | yes but i think the blame was ultimately on flash from all i remember reading/watching over it | 18:29 |
| binarymutant | i've got `export vdpau_nvidia_no_overlay=1` still in my shell options | 18:30 |
| binarymutant | ^ commented out now, since it's fixed, but it makes me think it was an nvidia problem | 18:31 |
| wrst | binarymutant: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1079358 | 18:33 |
| wrst | here is the key line: Flash issue when using vdpau. A nvidia developer created a hack, I'm trying to find it right now... | 18:33 |
| binarymutant | my problem, and linus' problem with nvidia, is that they're developing on old Xorg versions instead of the new ones | 18:33 |
| wrst | that really doesn't make a lot of sense does it? | 18:34 |
| gld1982ltd1 | wish i could help. | 18:36 |
| gld1982ltd1 | wish i could help.....what about bazaar? | 18:36 |
| binarymutant | wrst: the fix was a patch to libvdau | 18:36 |
| gld1982ltd1 | oops....sorry | 18:36 |
| wrst | yep but i think the issue was how flash handled that, anyway everyone blamed it on flash but everyone hates flash yet we use it :) | 18:36 |
| binarymutant | yeah I wish youtube didn't use flash | 18:37 |
| binarymutant | still waiting for html5 on everything :/ | 18:37 |
| wrst | binarymutant: you can use html5 for a lot of it | 18:37 |
| wrst | ahh yeah key word "everything" :) | 18:37 |
| binarymutant | :D | 18:37 |
| gld1982ltd1 | i'm trying my hand at bazaar and packaging. i have gotten permission from an upstream developer to package his program. i have registered the team and project on launchpad. the developer has joined the team. he has no time to help with packaging. i don't know exactly what i am doing. anyone want to help? | 18:38 |
| wrst | gld1982ltd1: well... i know nothing of packaging i have used bzr but very lightly | 18:39 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: maybe netritious might, since he's been doing some debian pkging | 18:39 |
| wrst | gld1982ltd1: are you wanting to get this in the repos? | 18:39 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: what's the software? | 18:39 |
| gld1982ltd1 | i have gotten as far as the bzr dh-make command. i can't figure out how to get the correct files t be in the deb file. also, i can't seem to find how to define where each file goes during the install. | 18:39 |
| binarymutant | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ | 18:40 |
| gld1982ltd1 | https://launchpad.net/lxmed i am using testing branch to package. trunk is automatically imported from sourceforge svn regularly. | 18:40 |
| binarymutant | debian/rules is the makefile that will allow to define where each file goes | 18:40 |
| gld1982ltd1 | the thing is....this is a small java app. there is no compilation or anything. | 18:41 |
| binarymutant | it doesn't matter if it's compiled or not | 18:41 |
| gld1982ltd1 | for those who didn't follow the link...lxmed is a menu editor for lxde. | 18:41 |
| binarymutant | debian/rules | 18:41 |
| wrst | ahh that's cool, Unit193 ^^^^ | 18:42 |
| Unit193 | Yep, thought it had some compatibility issues, and it is java after all. ;) | 18:42 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: read the new maintainers guide and debian policy and you'll be packaging everything :D | 18:43 |
| Unit193 | Though I did hear it worked anyway. | 18:43 |
| netritious | gld1982ltd1: What binarymutant said. | 18:44 |
| netritious | If you are just dyning to dive-in head first, at least read the Debian New Maintainer's Guide. | 18:44 |
| binarymutant | "it is java after all" lol :P | 18:44 |
| netritious | There are so many edge cases when working with packages that you really should read the docs. | 18:44 |
| netritious | *dying | 18:45 |
| netritious | I tried google first, and got only so far, then read the Debian New Maintainer's Guide. | 18:47 |
| netritious | but like binarymutant said, if you want to package something, and make a .deb, you have to have the debian/* files. | 18:48 |
| gld1982ltd1 | can anyone look at the testing branch and see if i am on the right track? | 18:49 |
| gld1982ltd1 | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gld1982ltd/lxmed/testing/files/head:/trunk/installation/debian/lxmed/ | 18:50 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: is this going to be put into ubuntu's repos? | 18:51 |
| binarymutant | dh is so hard to read now :( | 18:52 |
| netritious | looks like you're on the right track gld1982ltd1. | 18:52 |
| gld1982ltd1 | i hope one day it will be in the repos. that is why i am following the ubuntu packaging guide. | 18:53 |
| gld1982ltd1 | i am going to try to get it into debian first. | 18:53 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: rm the examples | 18:53 |
| gld1982ltd1 | there is also an arch folder in the installation folder. | 18:53 |
| gld1982ltd1 | even the postinst and prerm | 18:54 |
| gld1982ltd1 | all the ex files? | 18:54 |
| binarymutant | yes | 18:54 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: have you run lintin on it? | 18:55 |
| gld1982ltd1 | not yet. i created the tar.gz and did bzr dh-make on it. that produced all those files in the debian folder. | 18:56 |
| binarymutant | yeah | 18:56 |
| binarymutant | dh-make isn't policy, it's just to help get started | 18:57 |
| gld1982ltd1 | i don't know what to do to make the usr folder included in the install deb. every time i do the next step the usr folder is left out and i get an empty deb error. | 18:57 |
| binarymutant | you really need to read http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ | 18:58 |
| netritious | +1 | 18:59 |
| binarymutant | and then if you want it to get put into ubuntu or debian read http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ | 19:00 |
| gld1982ltd1 | got it bookmarked. looks like i have another week or so of reading before i can finish this package. it's a shame. i'd like to get it done so i can upload it to the ppa. i'd like to share it with the community. | 19:01 |
| binarymutant | once you figure out, it'll be easy trust me | 19:02 |
| binarymutant | if I can do it anyone can | 19:02 |
| netritious | And get's easier and easier. | 19:02 |
| binarymutant | +1 | 19:02 |
| gld1982ltd1 | sweet. i would like to package a lot of software for debian. | 19:02 |
| netritious | Wish I had more time to lend a hand gld1982ltd1 :/ If I weren't "crunching" atm, I would. | 19:05 |
| netritious | wb chris4585 | 19:05 |
| gld1982ltd1 | i hear ya netritious | 19:07 |
| gld1982ltd1 | oh...i need a mentor....lol | 19:10 |
| xTEMPLARx | the fresh maker! | 19:16 |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: if you put a mentor in a jug of diet coke it spews ? | 19:16 |
| xTEMPLARx | that's what I've heard :D | 19:17 |
| wrst | awesome | 19:17 |
| * wrst looks for some mentors and diet coke | 19:17 | |
| * xTEMPLARx grabs a chair and some popcorn. | 19:18 | |
| wrst | xTEMPLARx: i'm thinking netritious wouldn't like me pushing him in a jug of diet coke? | 19:19 |
| wrst | wb ChanServ | 19:19 |
| wrst | arr | 19:19 |
| wrst | wb chris4585 | 19:19 |
| xTEMPLARx | lol | 19:20 |
| xTEMPLARx | I'd say you're right | 19:20 |
| xTEMPLARx | nobody likes getting pushed into a vat of anything, I'd say. | 19:20 |
| chris4585 | thanks | 19:20 |
| binarymutant | weeelll I could think of a vat full of something I'd want to be pushed into.. :P | 19:21 |
| gld1982ltd1 | mmmmmmm | 19:21 |
| binarymutant | but it's highly OT | 19:21 |
| vychune | Svpernova09: ping | 19:22 |
| vychune | hey any body in web design know why some imagesrefuse to show in ie? | 20:00 |
| vychune | rather why ie refuses to show them? | 20:00 |
| Svpernova09 | example? | 20:02 |
| chris4585 | well that is easy, probably because IE is stupid | 20:07 |
| gld1982ltd1 | +1 | 20:10 |
| gld1982ltd1 | i don't even worry about ie when i develop. | 20:10 |
| vychune | lol | 20:10 |
| chris4585 | the thought that normal people even consider using IE baffles my mind | 20:11 |
| vychune | i have a logo at omarblog.x10.mx/nhlaw that won't show in ie | 20:11 |
| gld1982ltd1 | ie users get what they deserve......what microsoft gives them.....nothing.......only my opinion. | 20:11 |
| vychune | even if i just open the image by itself | 20:11 |
| vychune | gld1982ltd1: ouch dude | 20:11 |
| vychune | they dont know theyre getting nothing | 20:11 |
| gld1982ltd1 | sorry....didn't mean to sound honest. | 20:11 |
| vychune | blunt and honest | 20:12 |
| gld1982ltd1 | they don't know what they are missing is what it is. | 20:12 |
| vychune | bit of a difference lol | 20:12 |
| vychune | gld1982ltd1: right | 20:12 |
| vychune | i tell people all the time too | 20:12 |
| gld1982ltd1 | i try to inform all my friends...i have installed linux and firefox on so many of my friends' computers. | 20:13 |
| vychune | chris4585: +1 | 20:13 |
| vychune | i used to promote Chrome :/ | 20:13 |
| gld1982ltd1 | a lot of them are like "WOW! This is the internet without ads?!" and i'm like "That's not all"....lol | 20:14 |
| vychune | Svpernova09: any idea what i can do? | 20:14 |
| vychune | gld1982ltd1: i promote Opera, everytime they sing before and after they get it LOL | 20:15 |
| vychune | "and i can use it on my pone and keep my stuff?!?!?!?!?!?!?" | 20:15 |
| vychune | (yes, pone) lol | 20:15 |
| gld1982ltd1 | i haven't really tried opera much. | 20:16 |
| vychune | i have it everywhere | 20:16 |
| vychune | i really need to find out why ie is acting a nut with this logo | 20:17 |
| gld1982ltd1 | i have been using chromium lately and i am actually loving it. | 20:17 |
| xTEMPLARx | vychune: is this on a live link? | 20:17 |
| Svpernova09 | vychune: don't use bmp's on the web. | 20:18 |
| Svpernova09 | Ever | 20:18 |
| Svpernova09 | 1998 called. Wants them back. | 20:18 |
| xTEMPLARx | bmps are evil | 20:18 |
| gld1982ltd1 | lol.... i love png | 20:18 |
| vychune | oops lol thats from trying EVERYTHING to get it to work lol | 20:18 |
| vychune | it ws png first | 20:19 |
| Svpernova09 | vychune: don't set dimensions unless you need to. it's better to correctly size your graphics. | 20:19 |
| vychune | s/ws/was | 20:19 |
| gld1982ltd1 | can i get a link? | 20:19 |
| vychune | Svpernova09:i always set the dimension to the size of the image | 20:19 |
| Svpernova09 | Why? Just size your images. | 20:20 |
| vychune | http://omarblog.x10.mx/nhlaw | 20:20 |
| Svpernova09 | Also, clean up your urls. | 20:20 |
| vychune | ? clean up? | 20:20 |
| xTEMPLARx | What's broken here | 20:20 |
| Svpernova09 | Don't do this: "index.php?page=home" | 20:20 |
| vychune | xTEMPLARx: logo at top left doesnt in ie | 20:20 |
| xTEMPLARx | ah okay. | 20:21 |
| Svpernova09 | domain.com/home should be index.php?page=home. domain.com/profile should be index.php?page=profile | 20:21 |
| vychune | how do i do that ? | 20:22 |
| Svpernova09 | Google URL Rewriting. | 20:22 |
| Svpernova09 | RewriteRule ^/home$ /index.php?page=home [R,L] | 20:23 |
| Svpernova09 | RewriteRule ^/profile$ /index.php?page=profile [R,L] | 20:23 |
| Svpernova09 | etc, etc | 20:23 |
| Svpernova09 | This is stuff you should know as a web dev. | 20:23 |
| binarymutant | I don't get the TLD choice :/ | 20:23 |
| xTEMPLARx | in my experience, most "web devs" attain their title by installing Adobe Dreamweaver or equivalent. | 20:24 |
| xTEMPLARx | don't be like them. | 20:24 |
| binarymutant | oh freehosting nvm | 20:24 |
| Svpernova09 | There's nothing wrong with Dreamweaver if the user actually knows what they're doing. | 20:24 |
| vychune | binarymutant: testing space | 20:24 |
| Svpernova09 | I use DW quite a bit because it has great site management features. | 20:25 |
| binarymutant | vychune: gotcha | 20:25 |
| xTEMPLARx | my point is, the vast majority get by with letting dreamweaver (or equivalent) do all the heavy lifting for them, and the code/scripting ends up attrocious as a result, AND, they don't know how to implement custom code | 20:25 |
| vychune | i dont really know dreamweaver well | 20:25 |
| binarymutant | vychune: do you know if x10.mx allows redirects? | 20:25 |
| Svpernova09 | vychune: also add robots.txt and do a no follow so your test space doesn't get indexed and hurt the customer's rankings. | 20:25 |
| vychune | i use komodo edit | 20:25 |
| xTEMPLARx | I dealt with way too many "web developers" who wouldn't even LOOK at the actual code | 20:25 |
| Svpernova09 | xTEMPLARx: hehe | 20:25 |
| vychune | Svpernova09: i just put the robots.txt up | 20:25 |
| vychune | last week | 20:25 |
| binarymutant | xTEMPLARx: relax it's just markup :P | 20:25 |
| * xTEMPLARx is relaxed. | 20:26 | |
| vychune | binarymutant: yeah | 20:26 |
| binarymutant | :P <-- | 20:26 |
| xTEMPLARx | just amazed and bewildered that people can make a living doing something they know absolutely nothing about | 20:26 |
| vychune | they do | 20:26 |
| xTEMPLARx | :D | 20:26 |
| vychune | sounds like my job from last year lol | 20:26 |
| vychune | Joomla and DW only | 20:27 |
| xTEMPLARx | XD | 20:27 |
| xTEMPLARx | still, sites based on a CMS will need code customizations usually | 20:27 |
| binarymutant | it's funny when people get puffy about <br> and <br /> | 20:27 |
| vychune | binarymutant: i used to myself lol | 20:28 |
| xTEMPLARx | I did support for IPIX.com back in the company's hey-day, and the number of people who would complain on the phone because they had to copy/paste a block of code that we GAVE them to use was astounding | 20:28 |
| vychune | lol | 20:28 |
| gld1982ltd1 | ok...quick question about packaging, binarymutant. in the install file, can i list whole directories to be installed or do i have to list each file seperately? | 20:28 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: idk, checking | 20:30 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: I'm not sure if you can use wildcards sorry | 20:30 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: but you might be able to | 20:32 |
| vychune | GOT IT | 20:32 |
| gld1982ltd1 | i will just list each file seperately to be safe. | 20:32 |
| gld1982ltd1 | what was the fix, vychune? | 20:32 |
| vychune | copy and paste the image into a new file then change to profile of the image | 20:33 |
| vychune | ie no like cmyk | 20:33 |
| xTEMPLARx | vychune: it doesn't look like the text is formatting properly in IE either | 20:36 |
| xTEMPLARx | on my screen, the text is riding over top of the statue on the right hand side | 20:36 |
| vychune | screenshot? | 20:37 |
| xTEMPLARx | http://i.imgur.com/DWTxb.png | 20:40 |
| binarymutant | vychune: have you seen http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/ ? | 20:40 |
| vychune | no | 20:41 |
| binarymutant | twitter needs to start paying me, I'm always repping bootstrap2 | 20:41 |
| vychune | lol | 20:41 |
| vychune | that image shouldnt be that big\ | 20:41 |
| binarymutant | there's also something similar to bootstrap I'm following on github... | 20:42 |
| gld1982ltd1 | binarymutant: do you have a sec to check the install file here to see if it looks right? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gld1982ltd/lxmed/testing/files/head:/trunk/installation/debian/lxmed/debian/ | 20:42 |
| vychune | ooooooooooooooohhhhhhh Svpernova09 was that statue what you meant? | 20:42 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: honestly only line 3 should be in there to me, but I haven't looked at debian packaging in years | 20:44 |
| gld1982ltd1 | the rest of the files make up the package. there is no compiling...or making... | 20:46 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: line 4 and 5 are handled by dh_docs or whatever it's called | 20:49 |
| gld1982ltd1 | so how would i include the rest of the files? | 20:50 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: I don't want to give you 3-4 year old advice, but back in the day you would be running install.sh and uninstall.sh in debian/rules | 20:51 |
| gld1982ltd1 | would they automatically be added to the deb when i run the bzr builddeb -- -us -uc command | 20:51 |
| gld1982ltd1 | but there is no install.sh | 20:51 |
| gld1982ltd1 | only in the original source...not the "debian" version. | 20:52 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: and to be honest debian/ubuntu will prolly make you bug upstream about install.sh/uninstall.sh | 20:52 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: yeah in the original source there is install.sh in the top directory and uninstall is in content/ | 20:52 |
| gld1982ltd1 | there is an install.sh in the original source.....but it installs to /opt. the debian files go to /usr/* | 20:53 |
| gld1982ltd1 | maybe i am missing something here...? | 20:53 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: what your saying is why they need to start using a standard way of installing the app, which is what a debian dd or ubuntu motu will say too | 20:54 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: for now you can stick with using debian/install though, since your just putting it onto a ppa | 20:55 |
| gld1982ltd1 | ok....and i can make the proper changes later before i submit it to debian? | 20:56 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: but the requirements to get into the official repos are much more strict | 20:56 |
| binarymutant | yeah | 20:56 |
| gld1982ltd1 | cool | 20:57 |
| binarymutant | and it's harder to get something into debian than ubuntu, but that might have changed over the years | 20:57 |
| gld1982ltd1 | i wouldn't mind it just being in ubuntu. | 20:58 |
| binarymutant | it doesn't feel right putting everything in debian/install :/ | 21:01 |
| vychune | Svpernova09: thanks you were right | 21:01 |
| gld1982ltd1 | :-( i didn't think so either..... | 21:01 |
| vychune | the witdh auto was a problem too | 21:01 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: don't use dh :D | 21:02 |
| gld1982ltd1 | ??? | 21:02 |
| binarymutant | you don't have to use debhelper | 21:03 |
| xTEMPLARx | vychune: i see the logo now, but still have text over the statue graphic | 21:03 |
| vychune | oro? | 21:04 |
| vychune | that img was resized | 21:04 |
| xTEMPLARx | lemme shift-refresh | 21:04 |
| vychune | ctrl +r | 21:04 |
| vychune | yeah that lol | 21:04 |
| xTEMPLARx | much betta | 21:05 |
| gld1982ltd1 | binarymutant: what should i use? | 21:06 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: you should use dh, you can also create a Makefile for them or patch install.sh or something | 21:07 |
| gld1982ltd1 | oh...ok. i will investigate. | 21:08 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: #debian-maintainers on OFTC and #ubuntu-motu on Freenode are great places that will give you the right answers | 21:08 |
| binarymutant | as opposed to me who will give you very dated answers :P | 21:08 |
| gld1982ltd1 | awesome. thanks. | 21:09 |
| binarymutant | gld1982ltd1: run it through lintin when your done and when lintin no longer spits out errors run it through pbuilder | 21:16 |
| xTEMPLARx | opinions on KVM, assuming Oracle breaks Virtualbox in the near future whilst trying to milk money out of it? | 21:18 |
| gld1982ltd1 | not to sure how to do that, but when i get there i will try it. | 21:18 |
| binarymutant | xTEMPLARx: never used it before | 21:20 |
| xTEMPLARx | welp time to heads out. evening, all. | 21:22 |
| gld1982ltd1 | evenig | 21:23 |
| gld1982ltd1 | *evening* | 21:23 |
| binarymutant | laters | 21:23 |
| vychune | wanted to come back and thank you guys | 21:36 |
| vychune | somebody closed my page lol | 21:36 |
| vychune | gtg now cya o/ | 21:36 |
| Juzzy | http://www.extremetech.com/computing/123929-just-how-big-are-porn-sites/2 | 21:47 |
| gld1982ltd1 | nice to be here today. i got to go now. thanks and good night. | 22:01 |
| vychune | o/ | 23:23 |
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