[13:26] <netritious> Wake up!
[13:27] <netritious> Grab a brush and put on a little makeup...
[13:29] <netritious> sorry, have that song stuck in my head lol.
[13:32] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[13:33] <netritious> mornin' xTEMPLARx
[13:34] <xTEMPLARx> morning sir
[13:37] <netritious> hm, just found out that dd-wrt has a ssh vulnerablity
[13:39] <wrst> morning morning!
[13:39] <netritious> morning wrst
[13:40] <wrst> netritious: all going well?
[13:42] <netritious> wrst: doing great. yourself?
[13:43] <wrst> diong well netritious actually have monday rolling pretty well
[13:48] <netritious> SFW: http://imgur.com/wt030
[13:53] <netritious> ran metasploit, and nessus is running against it now.
[13:56] <wrst> ahh cool
[13:56] <wrst> i was about to ask :)
[13:56] <netritious> I'm curious how the snort/pulledpork/barnyard2/mysql/apache/passenger/ruby on rails/snorby thingamabob holds up. :)
[13:57] <wrst> haha way over my head but i wish you well :)
[13:59] <netritious> it's not rocket science, just software ;)
[13:59] <netritious> Intrusion Detection System is what I have now, and isn't ideal atm.
[14:00] <netritious> Intrusion Detection/Prevention System is what I'm after, just not as some prepackaged firewall thing like with pfsense.
[14:39] <alyawn> netritious, lol at the singing this morning
[14:42] <wrst> hello gld1982ltd
[14:42] <wrst> and alyawn how you doing?
[14:59] <alyawn> doing ok... cowboy coding for a delivery at 5:00 today
[16:27] <xTEMPLARx> whee
[16:54] <netritious> alyawn: it's a great song. It typically gets stuck in my head when I tell myself to 'wake up' lol
[16:55] <netritious> stop having so much fun xTEMPLARx
[16:55] <xTEMPLARx> sorry
[16:55] <netritious> I heard it can make you go blind.
[16:55] <xTEMPLARx> its a sickness, netritious
[16:55] <netritious> lol
[17:30] <binarymutant> omg I'm starting to really hate the nouveau driver :(
[17:33] <gld1982ltd> hello to you too wrst
[17:33] <gld1982ltd> i just got approved for the team. nice to meet you all.
[17:34] <binarymutant> hello
[17:34] <gld1982ltd> does anyone here work with bazaar and packaging?
[17:35] <binarymutant> I've used bzr and have done packaging
[17:35] <binarymutant> brb though
[17:36] <gld1982ltd> ok
[17:37] <xTEMPLARx> gold 1982 LTD?
[17:37] <xTEMPLARx> you like the car?  or is there another connotation :D
[17:37] <gld1982ltd> gld1982ltd. gary lee delaney 1982 limited
[17:37] <xTEMPLARx> okay PHWEW
[17:37] <gld1982ltd> lol
[17:37] <xTEMPLARx> coz the 82 LTD's were ugly cars :D
[17:38] <gld1982ltd> i hate gold
[17:38] <gld1982ltd> i don't know what a l
[17:38] <gld1982ltd> LTD is. lol
[17:39] <xTEMPLARx> Ford LTD Crown Victoria:  http://bit.ly/OeA7Gw
[17:39] <gld1982ltd> lol....yeah, that's pretty ugly.
[17:40] <xTEMPLARx> =]
[17:41] <binarymutant> back on buggy nvidia :/
[17:41] <gld1982ltd> brb
[17:41] <binarymutant> weird thing is the nvidia splash screen said "bad driver" in red on it... what's that about?
[17:49] <xTEMPLARx> probably just Nvidia's little way to tell you to stop hogging the fast lane on the interstate
[17:52] <binarymutant> well it's ████ing weird >:(
[17:54] <wrst> gld1982ltd: yes i think i was the one that had the honor of "approving" you :) glad you are here
[17:58] <xTEMPLARx> binarymutant: what version of the nvidia driver do you have in place?
[17:58] <gld1982ltd> wrst: thank you.
[17:59] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: wow you are still here :P
[17:59] <gld1982ltd> xTEMPLARx: i've never seen that before.
[17:59] <xTEMPLARx> wrst:  we can make arrangements to the contrary :D
[17:59] <gld1982ltd> yeah, i had to go to the store real quick.
[17:59] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: no then you would leave for like two years
[18:00] <xTEMPLARx> could be
[18:00] <xTEMPLARx> lol
[18:00] <xTEMPLARx> till the next ebb or tide of my whim brought me back
[18:00] <wrst> and i'm still looking at guitar parts
[18:00] <xTEMPLARx> lumber?
[18:00] <xTEMPLARx> or do you mean parts someone else has already done all the work on :D
[18:00] <xTEMPLARx> stay away from http://www.warmoth.com then
[18:01] <xTEMPLARx> so many beautiful parts there
[18:01] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: no i'm not going to start with a slab of wood
[18:01] <wrst> i have lots of challenges before i make it to that point
[18:01] <xTEMPLARx> slab?  you should start with a sapling
[18:01] <wrst> nourish the tree so i can cut it down?
[18:01] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[18:02] <wrst> hmm my dad has beef cattle so that's what he does
[18:02] <binarymutant> xTEMPLARx: 304.32
[18:03] <binarymutant> I think it's because I don't have acpi on here, but there's no other errors in my xorg.log
[18:04] <wrst> binarymutant: more nvidia issues? :\
[18:04] <binarymutant> wrst: well I left nvidia for nouveau for awhile, just came back
[18:04] <wrst> ahh
[18:04] <wrst> that stinks i've just never had issues with nvidia so don't really know what to do there
[18:04] <binarymutant> same issues as before but now the splash screen is saying "bad driver" in red, which is weird
[18:05] <wrst> that isn't comforting
[18:05] <binarymutant> it says bad driver but it works
[18:05] <xTEMPLARx> hrm... i'm using 295.49 binarymutant
[18:05] <xTEMPLARx> that is a strange thing
[18:05] <xTEMPLARx> compositing and all working normally?
[18:06] <binarymutant> idk about compositing bc I don't use that, but glx works great
[18:07] <xTEMPLARx> rgr
[18:07] <binarymutant> it's gotta be bc I don't have acpi
[18:07] <binarymutant> oh well
[18:07] <gld1982ltd> I am using 173 on one and current on another. works fine. what kind of computer are you running on, binarymutant?
[18:09] <binarymutant> dell latitude d630 with the quadro nvs 135m card
[18:09] <binarymutant> the newer nvidia drivers have been super buggy on it
[18:10] <xTEMPLARx> super buggy
[18:10] <xTEMPLARx> the amish speed demon
[18:10] <xTEMPLARx> NASCART
[18:11] <binarymutant> lol
[18:11] <xTEMPLARx> sorry
[18:11] <binarymutant> I actually got it
[18:11] <xTEMPLARx> flow of consciousness(?) there
[18:11] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[18:14] <xTEMPLARx> wb
[18:17] <gld1982ltd1> binarymutant: how did you install the nvidia drivers?
[18:18] <binarymutant> through my package manager
[18:18] <gld1982ltd1> and what flavor ubuntu?
[18:18] <binarymutant> the archlinux flavor :P
[18:18] <gld1982ltd1> lol
[18:19] <gld1982ltd1> ahhh
[18:19] <xTEMPLARx> that explains why you have access to 300+ version
[18:19] <binarymutant> yeah
[18:19] <xTEMPLARx> latest in ubuntu repos is 295.40
[18:20] <xTEMPLARx> danged old archlinux
[18:20] <gld1982ltd1> have you read through this page? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nvidia
[18:20] <wrst> gld1982ltd1: you will have to a excuse a few people in here they run things other than ubuntu... i can't imagine why however
[18:20] <xTEMPLARx> bleeding edge hipster linux is what they shoulda called it
[18:20] <xTEMPLARx> wrst is one of the guilty
[18:20] <wrst> what me???
[18:20] <xTEMPLARx> wrst: CONFESS
[18:20] <gld1982ltd1> wrst: lol...i also run other things, but i usually look in the distro specific irc rooms for help.
[18:21]  * wrst hands xTEMPLARx his confession
[18:21] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: yes but the driver itself contains known bugs when used with my specific card
[18:21] <gld1982ltd1> lmaorotf
[18:21]  * xTEMPLARx peruses the confession.  Nicely done... nicely done...
[18:21] <gld1982ltd1> binarymutant: have you tried an earlier versin of the nvidia drivers?
[18:21] <wrst> thank you xTEMPLARx
[18:22] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: no I don't want to downgrade Xorg
[18:22] <binarymutant> debian sid's nvidia version has the same bugs so I bet ubuntu has them too
[18:22] <gld1982ltd1> i see. i had the same problem with (l)ubuntu 12.04. i had to wait for the drivers to be updated.
[18:23] <gld1982ltd1> i run some old hardware.
[18:23] <binarymutant> I think nvidia dropped or is in the process of dropping my card
[18:25] <wrst> i have had that with ati card i had a couple years ago... i think ati pretty much dropped about half their cards at that time
[18:25] <gld1982ltd1> i agree with linus on the subject of nvidia - http://bit.ly/Mea2aj
[18:25] <binarymutant> oh yeah
[18:26] <wrst> i hear that but i must say i have better luck with them than anything else, of course other than intel but if i want performance
[18:28] <gld1982ltd1> so true, so sad
[18:28] <binarymutant> not being able to switch consoles, or reboot, or shutdown is a very serious bug though. I doubt ati or intel have that problem
[18:28] <binarymutant> and then there was that blue tint bug earlier this year
[18:28] <wrst> binarymutant: i think that was more a flash thing wasnt' it?
[18:28] <binarymutant> idk
[18:28] <wrst> because the patch to fix that involved flash
[18:29] <wrst> i remember seeing that somewhere that was their parting gift to the linux world
[18:29] <binarymutant> no it involved nvidia's vpau option or something
[18:29] <binarymutant> <- can't remember lol
[18:29] <wrst> yes but i think the blame was ultimately on flash from all i remember reading/watching over it
[18:30] <binarymutant> i've got `export vdpau_nvidia_no_overlay=1` still in my shell options
[18:31] <binarymutant> ^ commented out now, since it's fixed, but it makes me think it was an nvidia problem
[18:33] <wrst> binarymutant: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1079358
[18:33] <wrst> here is the key line: Flash issue when using vdpau. A nvidia developer created a hack, I'm trying to find it right now...
[18:33] <binarymutant> my problem, and linus' problem with nvidia, is that they're developing on old Xorg versions instead of the new ones
[18:34] <wrst> that really doesn't make a lot of sense does it?
[18:36] <gld1982ltd1> wish i could help.
[18:36] <gld1982ltd1> wish i could help.....what about bazaar?
[18:36] <binarymutant> wrst: the fix was a patch to libvdau
[18:36] <gld1982ltd1> oops....sorry
[18:36] <wrst> yep but i think the issue was how flash handled that, anyway everyone blamed it on flash but everyone hates flash yet we use it :)
[18:37] <binarymutant> yeah I wish youtube didn't use flash
[18:37] <binarymutant> still waiting for html5 on everything :/
[18:37] <wrst> binarymutant: you can use html5 for a lot of it
[18:37] <wrst> ahh yeah key word "everything" :)
[18:37] <binarymutant> :D
[18:38] <gld1982ltd1> i'm trying my hand at bazaar and packaging. i have gotten permission from an upstream developer to package his program. i have registered the team and project on launchpad. the developer has joined the team. he has no time to help with packaging. i don't know exactly what i am doing. anyone want to help?
[18:39] <wrst> gld1982ltd1: well... i know nothing of packaging i have used bzr but very lightly
[18:39] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: maybe netritious might, since he's been doing some debian pkging
[18:39] <wrst> gld1982ltd1: are you wanting to get this in the repos?
[18:39] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: what's the software?
[18:39] <gld1982ltd1> i have gotten as far as the bzr dh-make command. i can't figure out how to get the correct files t be in the deb file. also, i can't seem to find how to define where each file goes during the install.
[18:40] <binarymutant> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/
[18:40] <gld1982ltd1> https://launchpad.net/lxmed i am using testing branch to package. trunk is automatically imported from sourceforge svn regularly.
[18:40] <binarymutant> debian/rules is the makefile that will allow to define where each file goes
[18:41] <gld1982ltd1> the thing is....this is a small java app. there is no compilation or anything.
[18:41] <binarymutant> it doesn't matter if it's compiled or not
[18:41] <gld1982ltd1> for those who didn't follow the link...lxmed is a menu editor for lxde.
[18:41] <binarymutant> debian/rules
[18:42] <wrst> ahh that's cool, Unit193 ^^^^
[18:42] <Unit193> Yep, thought it had some compatibility issues, and it is java after all. ;)
[18:43] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: read the new maintainers guide and debian policy and you'll be packaging everything :D
[18:43] <Unit193> Though I did hear it worked anyway.
[18:44] <netritious> gld1982ltd1: What binarymutant said.
[18:44] <netritious> If you are just dyning to dive-in head first, at least read the Debian New Maintainer's Guide.
[18:44] <binarymutant> "it is java after all" lol :P
[18:44] <netritious> There are so many edge cases when working with packages that you really should read the docs.
[18:45] <netritious> *dying
[18:47] <netritious> I tried google first, and got only so far, then read the Debian New Maintainer's Guide.
[18:48] <netritious> but like binarymutant said, if you want to package something, and make a .deb, you have to have the debian/* files.
[18:49] <gld1982ltd1> can anyone look at the testing branch and see if i am on the right track?
[18:50] <gld1982ltd1> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gld1982ltd/lxmed/testing/files/head:/trunk/installation/debian/lxmed/
[18:51] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: is this going to be put into ubuntu's repos?
[18:52] <binarymutant> dh is so hard to read now :(
[18:52] <netritious> looks like you're on the right track gld1982ltd1.
[18:53] <gld1982ltd1> i hope one day it will be in the repos. that is why i am following the ubuntu packaging guide.
[18:53] <gld1982ltd1> i am going to try to get it into debian first.
[18:53] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: rm the examples
[18:53] <gld1982ltd1> there is also an arch folder in the installation folder.
[18:54] <gld1982ltd1> even the postinst and prerm
[18:54] <gld1982ltd1> all the ex files?
[18:54] <binarymutant> yes
[18:55] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: have you run lintin on it?
[18:56] <gld1982ltd1> not yet. i created the tar.gz and did bzr dh-make on it. that produced all those files in the debian folder.
[18:56] <binarymutant> yeah
[18:57] <binarymutant> dh-make isn't policy, it's just to help get started
[18:57] <gld1982ltd1> i don't know what to do to make the usr folder included in the install deb. every time i do the next step the usr folder is left out and i get an empty deb error.
[18:58] <binarymutant> you really need to read http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/
[18:59] <netritious> +1
[19:00] <binarymutant> and then if you want it to get put into ubuntu or debian read http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/
[19:01] <gld1982ltd1> got it bookmarked. looks like i have another week or so of reading before i can finish this package. it's a shame. i'd like to get it done so i can upload it to the ppa. i'd like to share it with the community.
[19:02] <binarymutant> once you figure out, it'll be easy trust me
[19:02] <binarymutant> if I can do it anyone can
[19:02] <netritious> And get's easier and easier.
[19:02] <binarymutant> +1
[19:02] <gld1982ltd1> sweet. i would like to package a lot of software for debian.
[19:05] <netritious> Wish I had more time to lend a hand gld1982ltd1 :/ If I weren't "crunching" atm, I would.
[19:05] <netritious> wb chris4585
[19:07] <gld1982ltd1> i hear ya netritious
[19:10] <gld1982ltd1> oh...i need a mentor....lol
[19:16] <xTEMPLARx> the fresh maker!
[19:16] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: if you put a mentor in a jug of diet coke it spews ?
[19:17] <xTEMPLARx> that's what I've heard :D
[19:17] <wrst> awesome
[19:17]  * wrst looks for some mentors and diet coke
[19:18]  * xTEMPLARx grabs a chair and some popcorn.
[19:19] <wrst> xTEMPLARx: i'm thinking netritious wouldn't like me pushing him in a jug of diet coke?
[19:19] <wrst> wb ChanServ
[19:19] <wrst> arr
[19:19] <wrst> wb chris4585
[19:20] <xTEMPLARx> lol
[19:20] <xTEMPLARx> I'd say you're right
[19:20] <xTEMPLARx> nobody likes getting pushed into a vat of anything, I'd say.
[19:20] <chris4585> thanks
[19:21] <binarymutant> weeelll I could think of a vat full of something I'd want to be pushed into.. :P
[19:21] <gld1982ltd1> mmmmmmm
[19:21] <binarymutant> but it's highly OT
[19:22] <vychune> Svpernova09: ping
[20:00] <vychune> hey any body in web design know why some imagesrefuse to show in ie?
[20:00] <vychune> rather why ie refuses to show them?
[20:02] <Svpernova09> example?
[20:07] <chris4585> well that is easy, probably because IE is stupid
[20:10] <gld1982ltd1> +1
[20:10] <gld1982ltd1> i don't even worry about ie when i develop.
[20:10] <vychune> lol
[20:11] <chris4585> the thought that normal people even consider using IE baffles my mind
[20:11] <vychune> i have a logo at omarblog.x10.mx/nhlaw that won't show in ie
[20:11] <gld1982ltd1> ie users get what they deserve......what microsoft gives them.....nothing.......only my opinion.
[20:11] <vychune> even if i just open the image by itself
[20:11] <vychune> gld1982ltd1: ouch dude
[20:11] <vychune> they dont know theyre getting nothing
[20:11] <gld1982ltd1> sorry....didn't mean to sound honest.
[20:12] <vychune> blunt and honest
[20:12] <gld1982ltd1> they don't know what they are missing is what it is.
[20:12] <vychune> bit of a difference lol
[20:12] <vychune> gld1982ltd1: right
[20:12] <vychune> i tell people all the time too
[20:13] <gld1982ltd1> i try to inform all my friends...i have installed linux and firefox on so many of my friends' computers.
[20:13] <vychune> chris4585: +1
[20:13] <vychune> i used to promote Chrome :/
[20:14] <gld1982ltd1> a lot of them are like "WOW! This is the internet without ads?!" and i'm like "That's not all"....lol
[20:14] <vychune> Svpernova09: any idea what i can do?
[20:15] <vychune> gld1982ltd1: i promote Opera, everytime they sing before and after they get it LOL
[20:15] <vychune> "and i can use it on my pone and keep my stuff?!?!?!?!?!?!?"
[20:15] <vychune> (yes, pone) lol
[20:16] <gld1982ltd1> i haven't really tried opera much.
[20:16] <vychune> i have it everywhere
[20:17] <vychune> i really need to find out why ie is acting a nut with this logo
[20:17] <gld1982ltd1> i have been using chromium lately and i am actually loving it.
[20:17] <xTEMPLARx> vychune:  is this on a live link?
[20:18] <Svpernova09> vychune: don't use bmp's on the web.
[20:18] <Svpernova09> Ever
[20:18] <Svpernova09> 1998 called. Wants them back.
[20:18] <xTEMPLARx> bmps are evil
[20:18] <gld1982ltd1> lol.... i love png
[20:18] <vychune> oops lol thats from trying EVERYTHING to get it to work lol
[20:19] <vychune> it ws png first
[20:19] <Svpernova09> vychune: don't set dimensions unless you need to. it's better to correctly size your graphics.
[20:19] <vychune> s/ws/was
[20:19] <gld1982ltd1> can i get a link?
[20:19] <vychune> Svpernova09:i always set the dimension to the size of the image
[20:20] <Svpernova09> Why? Just size your images.
[20:20] <vychune> http://omarblog.x10.mx/nhlaw
[20:20] <Svpernova09> Also, clean up your urls.
[20:20] <vychune> ? clean up?
[20:20] <xTEMPLARx> What's broken here
[20:20] <Svpernova09> Don't do this: "index.php?page=home"
[20:20] <vychune> xTEMPLARx: logo at top left doesnt in ie
[20:21] <xTEMPLARx> ah okay.
[20:21] <Svpernova09> domain.com/home should be index.php?page=home. domain.com/profile should be index.php?page=profile
[20:22] <vychune> how do i do that ?
[20:22] <Svpernova09> Google URL Rewriting.
[20:23] <Svpernova09> RewriteRule ^/home$ /index.php?page=home [R,L]
[20:23] <Svpernova09> RewriteRule ^/profile$ /index.php?page=profile [R,L]
[20:23] <Svpernova09> etc, etc
[20:23] <Svpernova09> This is stuff you should know as a web dev.
[20:23] <binarymutant> I don't get the TLD choice :/
[20:24] <xTEMPLARx> in my experience, most "web devs" attain their title by installing Adobe Dreamweaver or equivalent.
[20:24] <xTEMPLARx> don't be like them.
[20:24] <binarymutant> oh freehosting nvm
[20:24] <Svpernova09> There's nothing wrong with Dreamweaver if the user actually knows what they're doing.
[20:24] <vychune> binarymutant: testing space
[20:25] <Svpernova09> I use DW quite a bit because it has great site management features.
[20:25] <binarymutant> vychune: gotcha
[20:25] <xTEMPLARx> my point is, the vast majority get by with letting dreamweaver (or equivalent) do all the heavy lifting for them, and the code/scripting ends up attrocious as a result, AND, they don't know how to implement custom code
[20:25] <vychune> i dont really know dreamweaver well
[20:25] <binarymutant> vychune: do you know if x10.mx allows redirects?
[20:25] <Svpernova09> vychune: also add robots.txt and do a no follow so your test space doesn't get indexed and hurt the customer's rankings.
[20:25] <vychune> i use komodo edit
[20:25] <xTEMPLARx> I dealt with way too many "web developers" who wouldn't even LOOK at the actual code
[20:25] <Svpernova09> xTEMPLARx: hehe
[20:25] <vychune> Svpernova09: i just put the robots.txt up
[20:25] <vychune> last week
[20:25] <binarymutant> xTEMPLARx: relax it's just markup :P
[20:26]  * xTEMPLARx is relaxed.
[20:26] <vychune> binarymutant: yeah
[20:26] <binarymutant> :P   <--
[20:26] <xTEMPLARx> just amazed and bewildered that people can make a living doing something they know absolutely nothing about
[20:26] <vychune> they do
[20:26] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[20:26] <vychune> sounds like my job from last year lol
[20:27] <vychune> Joomla and DW only
[20:27] <xTEMPLARx> XD
[20:27] <xTEMPLARx> still, sites based on a CMS will need code customizations usually
[20:27] <binarymutant> it's funny when people get puffy about <br> and <br />
[20:28] <vychune> binarymutant: i used to myself lol
[20:28] <xTEMPLARx> I did support for IPIX.com back in the company's hey-day, and the number of people who would complain on the phone because they had to copy/paste a block of code that we GAVE them to use was astounding
[20:28] <vychune> lol
[20:28] <gld1982ltd1> ok...quick question about packaging, binarymutant. in the install file, can i list whole directories to be installed or do i have to list each file seperately?
[20:30] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: idk, checking
[20:30] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: I'm not sure if you can use wildcards sorry
[20:32] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: but you might be able to
[20:32] <vychune> GOT IT
[20:32] <gld1982ltd1> i will just list each file seperately to be safe.
[20:32] <gld1982ltd1> what was the fix, vychune?
[20:33] <vychune> copy and paste the image into a new file then change to profile of the image
[20:33] <vychune> ie no like cmyk
[20:36] <xTEMPLARx> vychune:  it doesn't look like the text is formatting properly in IE either
[20:36] <xTEMPLARx> on my screen, the text is riding over top of the statue on the right hand side
[20:37] <vychune> screenshot?
[20:40] <xTEMPLARx> http://i.imgur.com/DWTxb.png
[20:40] <binarymutant> vychune: have you seen http://twitter.github.com/bootstrap/ ?
[20:41] <vychune> no
[20:41] <binarymutant> twitter needs to start paying me, I'm always repping bootstrap2
[20:41] <vychune> lol
[20:41] <vychune> that image shouldnt be that big\
[20:42] <binarymutant> there's also something similar to bootstrap I'm following on github...
[20:42] <gld1982ltd1> binarymutant: do you have a sec to check the install file here to see if it looks right? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gld1982ltd/lxmed/testing/files/head:/trunk/installation/debian/lxmed/debian/
[20:42] <vychune> ooooooooooooooohhhhhhh Svpernova09 was that statue what you meant?
[20:44] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: honestly only line 3 should be in there to me, but I haven't looked at debian packaging in years
[20:46] <gld1982ltd1> the rest of the files make up the package. there is no compiling...or making...
[20:49] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: line 4 and 5 are handled by dh_docs or whatever it's called
[20:50] <gld1982ltd1> so how would i include the rest of the files?
[20:51] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: I don't want to give you 3-4 year old advice, but back in the day you would be running install.sh and uninstall.sh in debian/rules
[20:51] <gld1982ltd1> would they automatically be added to the deb when i run the bzr builddeb -- -us -uc command
[20:51] <gld1982ltd1> but there is no install.sh
[20:52] <gld1982ltd1> only in the original source...not the "debian" version.
[20:52] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: and to be honest debian/ubuntu will prolly make you bug upstream about install.sh/uninstall.sh
[20:52] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: yeah in the original source there is install.sh in the top directory and uninstall is in content/
[20:53] <gld1982ltd1> there is an install.sh in the original source.....but it installs to /opt. the debian files go to /usr/*
[20:53] <gld1982ltd1> maybe i am missing something here...?
[20:54] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: what your saying is why they need to start using a standard way of installing the app, which is what a debian dd or ubuntu motu will say too
[20:55] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: for now you can stick with using debian/install though, since your just putting it onto a ppa
[20:56] <gld1982ltd1> ok....and i can make the proper changes later before i submit it to debian?
[20:56] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: but the requirements to get into the official repos are much more strict
[20:56] <binarymutant> yeah
[20:57] <gld1982ltd1> cool
[20:57] <binarymutant> and it's harder to get something into debian than ubuntu, but that might have changed over the years
[20:58] <gld1982ltd1> i wouldn't mind it just being in ubuntu.
[21:01] <binarymutant> it doesn't feel right putting everything in debian/install :/
[21:01] <vychune> Svpernova09: thanks you were right
[21:01] <gld1982ltd1> :-( i didn't think so either.....
[21:01] <vychune> the witdh auto was a problem too
[21:02] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: don't use dh :D
[21:02] <gld1982ltd1> ???
[21:03] <binarymutant> you don't have to use debhelper
[21:03] <xTEMPLARx> vychune:  i see the logo now, but still have text over the statue graphic
[21:04] <vychune> oro?
[21:04] <vychune> that img was resized
[21:04] <xTEMPLARx> lemme shift-refresh
[21:04] <vychune> ctrl +r
[21:04] <vychune> yeah that lol
[21:05] <xTEMPLARx> much betta
[21:06] <gld1982ltd1> binarymutant: what should i use?
[21:07] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: you should use dh, you can also create a Makefile for them or patch install.sh or something
[21:08] <gld1982ltd1> oh...ok. i will investigate.
[21:08] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: #debian-maintainers on OFTC and #ubuntu-motu on Freenode are great places that will give you the right answers
[21:08] <binarymutant> as opposed to me who will give you very dated answers :P
[21:09] <gld1982ltd1> awesome. thanks.
[21:16] <binarymutant> gld1982ltd1: run it through lintin when your done and when lintin no longer spits out errors run it through pbuilder
[21:18] <xTEMPLARx> opinions on KVM, assuming Oracle breaks Virtualbox in the near future whilst trying to milk money out of it?
[21:18] <gld1982ltd1> not to sure how to do that, but when i get there i will try it.
[21:20] <binarymutant> xTEMPLARx: never used it before
[21:22] <xTEMPLARx> welp time to heads out.  evening, all.
[21:23] <gld1982ltd1> evenig
[21:23] <gld1982ltd1> *evening*
[21:23] <binarymutant> laters
[21:36] <vychune> wanted to come back and thank you guys
[21:36] <vychune> somebody closed my page lol
[21:36] <vychune> gtg now cya o/
[21:47] <Juzzy> http://www.extremetech.com/computing/123929-just-how-big-are-porn-sites/2
[22:01] <gld1982ltd1> nice to be here today. i got to go now. thanks and good night.
[23:23] <vychune> o/