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d2_hello01:02
DaskreechHello01:02
phil_Morning01:02
d2_anyone here ever configured something like WebRenderer Swing ?01:02
d2_its in java, suposed to launch an embebbed browser.01:03
d2_im trying to install that and call it from php code... kind of stuck, but almost there im sure.. if anyone wants to help pls :S01:04
d2_embedded *01:04
phil_have you googled it ?01:05
d2_well no sir, that had not ocurred to me01:06
d2_this google u speak of,01:06
d2_tell me more01:06
Daskreech!google01:06
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.01:06
Daskreechd2_: Are you having issues with the Java or the PHP ?01:07
d2_yes I iz having01:07
d2_why cant i join #php01:07
phil_this is a system problem or a code thing ?01:07
DaskreechCode01:08
zombiewookiehi01:09
d2_ phil, code problem01:09
d2_i can launch the mini java browser from console01:09
d2_so i guess its installed properly01:09
d2_im just trying to call it from php code.01:10
d2_its probably something simple im missing01:10
Daskreechtry ##java ?01:13
d2_can someone invite me to #PHP ?01:17
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Daskreechd2_: try ##php ?01:47
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eighthandHello03:32
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limboman大家好04:51
petrusyaphi05:20
petrusyapwhere can i get someone to help me with my new ubuntu installation?05:20
hateball!ask05:20
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:20
petrusyap!ask how can i enable optimus on my ubuntu 12.0.4 LTS??05:21
ubottupetrusyap: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:21
DarthFrog!busybee | petrusyap05:21
DarthFrogHmm, no entry.05:21
DarthFrogpetrusyap:  Investigate the busybee project.05:21
DarthFrogOr is it bumblebee?  It's one or the other. :-)05:22
DarthFrog!bumblebee05:22
petrusyap!ask how to install bumblebee? i installed but always ask me to insert the cd05:22
ubottupetrusyap: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:22
petrusyap!ask i try to install bumblebee, but always fail.. ask me to insert the 12.0.4 into the cdrom folder?05:23
ubottupetrusyap: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:23
DarthFrogpetrusyap: !ask is going to get you nowhere.05:24
pawanhow to run avi file06:26
hateballpawan: Can you explain further?06:33
bazhangpawan, vlc or mplayer06:34
pawani can not view the avi format file in kubuntu06:34
jussi!avi06:34
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:34
bazhangpawan, install kubuntu-restricted-extras then06:35
pawanhow to install mozilla06:38
bazhangfirefox?06:39
lskaglsdwhat's mozilla?06:39
lskaglsdnah, he said mozilla06:39
pawanmozilla firefox06:39
lskaglsdnah dude, you definitely want mozilla06:39
lskaglsdnot firefox, get the whole thing06:39
bazhanglskaglsd, please stop that06:40
lskaglsdESAD.06:41
bazhanglskaglsd, thats uncalled for. please review the channel guidelines06:41
bazhang!guidelines | lskaglsd06:41
ubottulskaglsd: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines06:41
IdleOnepawan: sudo apt-get install firefox06:45
goodtimehahaha i installed windows 7 pro and it doesnt see my network adaptro07:24
hateball!windows07:24
ubottuFor discussion on Microsoft software, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents07:24
goodtimei wonder when i get a usb modem if the same thing happens07:24
goodtimebut with linux it just works like bam!!!07:25
goodtimego figure07:25
danemerinohi07:42
goodtimehello07:45
goodtimewhats up gani07:48
goodtimenice to meet you i think lol07:48
ganigoodtime: nothing much... nevemind... have i talked to you before?07:49
goodtimenaw07:50
goodtimejust awake ya know heh07:50
ganiokay:)07:50
goodtimetrying some differnt servers07:50
goodtimeim usualy hitting maddshark07:50
goodtimetry /server texan.maddshark.com    #maddchat07:52
goodtimeor /server canada.maddshark.com07:52
goodtimegood peps there07:53
ganii am quite busy  now... will do them later...07:53
goodtimebeen there like 15 years07:53
goodtimeoic sorry man07:53
OerHeksdo you have a Kubuntu support question, goodtime ?07:53
goodtimesure07:53
goodtimewhy do i need magnets for torrents when i upgrade to 12.04 lts07:54
OerHeksyou don't.07:54
goodtimeok ill try the upgrade again but i hope im wrong ill let you know07:55
Guest81857FUCK U ALL UBUNTU DISTROS STUPID DISTROS08:34
Guest81857PIECE OF SHIT08:34
Guest81857SCUMBUGS08:34
Guest81857TRASHUBUNTU08:34
Guest81857NETWORK PROBLEMS08:34
Guest81857UNSTABLE U CALL THIS LTS RELEASE08:34
Guest81857UBUNTU DEVS SHOULD BE HANGED TILL DEATH08:35
Guest81857DEBIAN AS BASE ANOTHER STUPID THING TO DO08:35
Guest81857STUPID DEBIAN08:35
FloodBotK1Guest81857: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:35
Guest81857STFU08:35
Guest81857FUCK U ALL08:35
FloodBotK1Guest81857: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:36
Guest81857DO HELL WITH UR MANNERISMS08:36
Guest81857ALL FANBOYS08:36
Guest81857STUPID UBUNTU FANBOYS08:36
Guest81857FUCK U ALL08:36
FloodBotK1Guest81857: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.08:36
jdrsWell, that escalated at a reasonable pace.08:40
hateballjdrs: lol09:08
jdrshateball: Funny thing is that FloodBot is asking him to post all his swearing on ubuntu paste. Haha. And suggesting not to use enter as punctutation. Maybe use "!" instead? haha.09:19
hateball:)09:20
almigijdrs: Well, he was typing in all caps, which means he was serious!09:21
almigiand we're laughing at him.09:21
* almigi hangs his head in shame09:21
jdrsYou don't go crying over spilled milk.09:21
almigiunless milk is code for whiskey09:22
jdrsOkay, my bad.09:22
nandhuhi i am using amixer to get and set values Master is working for 2 type of hardware to set volumes but Mic is working in only one in other it is detecting as Mic rear ,Mic front etc . so how can we set volume of mic and speaker with regardless to what ever the hardware is using amixer or alsamixer09:24
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phil__evening09:47
mat619Hi there! Probably simple question: I can't see any option to put my Kubuntu workstation to sleep. Is the standby button hidden somewhere or is my box here just not capable of S3?10:29
mat619Or in other words how do I find out.10:29
monkeyjuicekickoff , leave , sleep?10:30
mat619monkeyjuice: don't have that. so i guess KDE doesn't think this box here is capable of sleeping10:31
mat619might well be, since this workstation is based on server hardware (HP ProLiant G7)10:32
mat619afaik some server boards allow S3, others don't10:32
mat619does somebody know how to verify this? like some system file which lists which S-states this system supports?10:33
mat619besides next question - this system inherited a hard drive which was used in an ubuntu 10.04 LTS box before, hosting files. since I now want to host these from my workstation and I was not willing to create some 20+ shares by hand again, I copied all folder entries from the old system's /etc/samba/smb.conf over to this new one.10:34
mat619turns out: samba doesn't host anything. all windows and linux clients alike time out.10:35
mat619the lines in smb.conf are pretty minimalistic, for testing I even removed all the other users except for my own one. the rest looks like this:10:37
mat619path = /srv/samba/folder_ABC ,   writeable = yes ,   browseable = no ,   valid users = my_local_username10:37
mat619same line worked fine in ubuntu 10.04 but doesn't in kubuntu 12.04. any ideas why?10:37
mat619agh i'm stupid. forgot that smbpasswd was mandatory in order to enable user security authentication.10:52
mat619smbpasswd -a my_user_name, et voila, it works.10:52
phil__Hey, anyone knows how to set the brightness of screen in Kubuntu ?10:57
hateballphil__: On something like a laptop? Usually whatever hotkeys you have on those work right away10:58
lordievaderGood afternoon10:59
phil__hi hateball, yes I use a laptop and I can set the brightness with hotkeys, but I have to do it everytime i start the system10:59
hateballphil__: ah!10:59
phil__could it be saved in Kubuntu ?10:59
hateballphil__: do you boot on battery?10:59
mat619phil__: you can probably set the default brightness in the BIOS, that would be a completely OS independed solution10:59
hateballphil__: otherwise, fire up krunner (alt+f2 default) and type "energy" and you will get the proper options11:00
phil__hateball: i don't get it11:00
phil__mat619: it seems not a good idea..11:00
hateballphil__: well there are different power saving profiles11:00
hateballSo if you're on battery it will dim the screen and so on11:01
mat619phil__: why not? at least I personally configure the BIOS of all my laptop to run their displays on full brightness when on battery and haven't had a problem so far11:01
mat619phil__: most laptop BIOS also allow you to specify the default brightness for battery powered use11:02
phil__mat619: you mean the Kubuntu can't  remember the brightness if  i close the system ?11:02
hateballIt certainly can, it does for me11:03
mat619phil__: I haven't said that. kubuntu CAN remember the brightness of your screen. it should do so by default, at least it does on my systems11:03
phil__hateball: how,  can you tell me ?11:03
hateballphil__: I just did, open the energy settings and tweak it. That should save it11:04
hateballprovided you have a battery installed you should have different tabs for "on power" and "battery" etc11:04
hateball(I dont have a battery on this machine) so I might be off11:04
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mat619hateball: (funny side note, my server based system here has a battery tab!? :D  probably because it has a UPS connector :D)11:05
monkeyjuicephil__:  look at system settings, power managment11:06
phil__thanks everyone , i have found it11:06
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arian-kdehello11:55
arian-kdeis here any body?11:55
monkeyjuicehello arian-kde11:57
phil__hell12:06
phil__hello12:06
monkeyjuicehello phil__12:07
phil__hello monkeyjuice12:07
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arian-kdeis there any ronak  ppa for kubuntu?12:10
mat619hmmm... what was the package name of the screensavers again?12:23
mat619kinda irritating that kubuntu ships with NO screensavers at all12:24
BluesKajHI all12:51
phil__Hi BluesKaj, good morning12:52
monkeyjuicehey BluesKaj12:52
BluesKajHi phil__ , monkeyjuice12:53
BluesKajgotta check all the filters on our phonelines , they are really noisy and the internet connection gets dumped because the dsl monitor data stream  get's too buried in the noise and the connection to the internet drops12:55
monkeyjuiceyou have them little filters you plug in to your phone lines?12:56
BluesKajyeah , dsl filters12:58
BluesKajone filter for each phone and the bell pvr ..suspect I have a bad one in the mix13:06
BluesKajand the fax machine on the printer13:07
monkeyjuiceyep they do that it seems13:07
monkeyjuicethe last time i had dsl i could hear a radio station over my phone lines it was strange... they had line problems13:08
BluesKajyeah , if the phone lines are within a few hundred yards of a transmitter that's a common problem ... we had that problem at our local ski area that had an AM radio transmitter across the road13:11
epsilonorionOn ubuntu 12.04 server, occasionally when booting up my board stops on Grub.  If I then hook a keyboard up to get it passed grub, all I get is a black screen.  If I power off and power on the system and immediately respond when grub comes up, it continues past grub with no issues.  Any ideas?13:56
epsilonorionI found one idea about changing the grub.cfg file and doing a grub-update, but I thought that was not suggested anymore13:56
BluesKajepsilonorion, what kubuntu or server version?13:57
epsilonorionup to date 12.0413:58
BluesKajgrub2 , has a root accessible cfg file , but it sounds like your timeout isn't being read13:58
epsilonorionwhich is what I thought.  I found one fix was to go to the .cfg file (sudo), modify the timeout under recordfail, and the grup-update14:00
BluesKajepsilonorion, maybe you should do an update, upgrade, and dist-upgrade , then , sudo update-grub14:00
BluesKajseems to me there was a plkg upgrade for grub recently14:01
epsilonorioni can try it and see what happens.  I did one a few days ago and no joy.  I can try again and see what happens14:01
epsilonorionsorry for the double type14:02
sonic6174my desktop is freezing on bootup, any idea how i can fix it?14:13
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JPP___Hi, I have a problem the command to upgrade installed me kubuntu 12-1016:46
JPP___Is it a bad thing ?16:46
ikoniawhat command ?16:47
JPP___do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f kde -d16:49
ikoniawho told you to do that16:49
JPP___my bad16:49
JPP___i had a problem during the upgrade from 11-10 to 12-04, it installed it partly but with a glitch at the end16:50
JPP___I was able to fix the glitch and I remembered that the installer was supposed to handle incomplete udpdate so i started manually the command again16:51
JPP___and in fact the update was complete16:51
JPP___so it started to install 12-10 instead16:52
ikoniadepending on how /window 1516:52
ikoniaoops16:52
JPP___and now i am under 12-10 it seems to work fine16:53
JPP___is it ok then ?16:53
JPP___I was not sure why it was downloadinf so many packages but it went fast16:54
JPP___i am one month and half before the official release :) I hope it is not to dangerous16:54
ikoniayou told it to upgrade to a development version, it's done that16:54
ikoniaand yes, it's unstable16:54
JPP___it 's the "-d" option ?16:54
JPP___I took this line from the webpage16:55
ikoniawhich webpage ?16:56
JPP___i am searching it16:56
JPP___there was a webpage with some screenshot of muon updater with this line16:57
JPP___https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades/Kubuntu16:57
JPP___https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=upgrade2.png16:57
JPP___damned16:58
JPP___they took the screenshot before the official release16:58
ikoniaso I see16:58
JPP___what is your opinion on the risks ?16:59
JPP___well, i learnt something the hard way16:59
JPP___are there people aleardy using 12-10 ?17:00
jussiHrm, im having some issues with an update to NVIDIA driver. Ive reinstalled the driver several times via jockey, run nvidia-xconfig as root and restarted of course. Im using the nvidia current driver.  However, something isnt going right, as the Nvidia driver isnt being picked up - nvidia config tool says Im not using the nvidia driver and Ive a resolution of 800x600.17:01
JPP___i would like to disable the kdm service at startup where should i look ?17:06
DarthFrogJPP___: /etc/kde4/kdm/17:08
JPP___thx but i was thinking that the service was started by kubuntu in a more general way17:09
JPP___i have a little pbm actually if i boot normally kde does'nt start, i have to use rescue system and startx with my user17:10
JPP___then it use the nvida nouveau it seems or a vga mode i don't know but not the nvidia proprietary driver17:11
JPP___my nvidia module is blacklisted17:11
JPP___how should i do to unlist it ?17:11
JPP___does someone know where is the conf file for the main services ?17:16
JPP___where do you control that ssh is automatically started at boot for instance17:16
jussi!bum17:19
ubottuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto17:19
JPP___thanks17:24
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Daskreech!info bum18:11
ubottubum (source: bum): graphical runlevel editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.2-1 (precise), package size 83 kB, installed size 520 kB18:11
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KvaksIs there a good comic book reader for Linux?19:32
OerHeksKvaks, Calibre can handle almost any digi book.19:36
KvaksThanks, checking it out.19:37
vijaym1234dude...there ?19:38
vijaym1234FloodBotK1, FloodBotK219:39
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kanastaa19:42
kanastis this working?19:43
kanastbamp...19:43
asgard20032If you didn't know, Valve is porting steam and source engine to Linux. Recently, they made a new post on their blog. Left for dead 2 now run faster on Linux than on Windows. - http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/faster-zombies/ -19:56
GalvatronMan, it's been around for quite some time.20:03
asgard20032Yeah, but i just saw it20:05
GalvatronIt's likely the single most important news we've heard in the last few months.20:05
asgard20032And wanted to spread the new20:05
asgard20032I am so happy, that game industry will finally come to linux20:05
GalvatronYou're  likely one of the few who haven't heard it already20:06
asgard20032And by that post, valve made the proof that Linux happen to be a better gaming platform by giving better performance20:06
asgard20032Well, its been few week I follow what steam say20:06
asgard20032But since few day, didnt checked20:06
GalvatronLinux-besad system are far lighter and better optimised than Windows, so no surprise20:08
asgard20032Yeah, but now people finally see the proof of that in gaming20:08
asgard20032So maybe Nvidia and ATI by this result will focus more on Linux for driver20:08
ikoniautter nonsense20:08
ikonialinux systems are lighter and better optimised, spew nonsense20:09
doctorpepperhi guys!!20:09
Galvatronikonia: What do you mean?20:11
ikoniaexactly what I just said20:11
asgard20032If only Blizzard could wake up... They are already using only cross platform library (don't remember the name of their physic library, but cross platform, Fmod for the sound, OpdnGL...) They could port their game so easily.20:11
Galvatronikonia: So how is it possible, thet even the heavy-weight Kubuntu runs smoothly on configs far too weak for Windows 7 (like some Pentium IV 2-3GHZ, 1GB of RAM)?20:14
ikoniawindows 7 will run on them20:14
GalvatronBut just barely20:14
ikoniano it won't20:14
ikoniait will run "fine"20:14
ikonianot as good as with more, but thats the same as any OS20:15
GalvatronBut it will leave you with almost no resources for anything else20:15
ikoniano more than a current kubuntu install20:16
GalvatronEspecialy if Aero is active20:16
ikoniathat's a video card issue20:16
asgard20032I did some benchmark20:16
asgard20032Linux always surpass Windows by 30% in most case20:16
ikoniaand how are you measuring that20:17
Galvatronikonia: Try some more demanding stuff, and your  out.20:17
asgard20032Except is 3d acceleration, where windows is better20:17
ikoniaGalvatron: I do use demanding stuff20:17
asgard20032But thats only because of better driver20:17
asgard20032But now Valve is working on Driver issue20:17
ikoniaasgard20032: how are you measuring this20:17
asgard20032With benchmark program20:17
asgard20032Using the same suit as phonorix20:18
ikoniaasgard20032: which benchmark programs are available on both Windows and Linux ?20:18
asgard20032I downloaded most of their program20:18
asgard20032Bender20:18
asgard20032Some game offer benchmark20:18
ikoniaasgard20032: which benchmark programs are available on both Windows and Linux ?20:18
Galvatronikonia: Mostly Phoronix Test Suite20:18
asgard20032Multi-Platform: The Phoronix Test Suite traditionally has been primarily targeted at conducting Linux-based tests, but the Phoronix Test Suite will also work on OpenSolaris, Mac OS X, Windows, and BSD operating systems.20:19
asgard20032http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/?k=features20:19
apparlehey guys.... hi20:19
ikoniaasgard20032: so what where you measuring within these benchmarks ?20:19
asgard20032CPU usage20:20
asgard20032Memory20:20
asgard20032FPS20:20
ikoniaunder what situation ?20:20
ikoniaeg: what was going on for these usage tests20:20
asgard20032In almost all case, Linux one where better for all three thing I mesured20:20
asgard20032Under benchmark situation...20:20
ikoniaand you're saying %30 better20:20
ikoniasorry, that's not realistic20:21
asgard20032Sorry, I don't have exact result on me20:21
ikonia(I'm not doubting that you're run the tests)20:21
asgard20032its approximately 30%20:21
asgard20032I ran it on a gentoo20:21
asgard20032Everything compiled for my processor20:21
apparleIt's been almost an year since I used kubuntu. So can someone briefly tell me the known issues while installing 12.0420:21
asgard20032i7-3770k OC 4.5 ghz20:21
BluesKajhi apparle , I thought I recognized your nick:)20:22
apparleBluesKaj: ohh hi.. :)20:22
apparledidn't have a computer for a long time20:22
apparleBluesKaj: so what all has happened while I was away from the kubuntu world ;)20:23
BluesKajapparle, depends on your HW and the shape it's in , but i have no probs with 12,04 on a 4yr old HP generic desktop pc20:24
apparleBluesKaj: now I have pretty new laptop, Lenovo Z570. What is the current state on Nvidia graphics... ? This one has a GT54020:25
GalvatronKubuntu 12.04.1, with KDE 4.8.5 or 4.9,  runs smoothly on my Pentium IV 3GHz, 1,5GB of RAM and 7300GT.20:25
Galvatronapparle: They've just released another large update - 304.3720:25
asgard20032Im not an expert of benchmark, so I don't remember exaclty what program I used in the suit, I just ran every test I could, and watched the diagram, made some statistic, and about 30% in most case. Just remembered that Windows was better when it came to 3d accelaration especially, and was a little better when it came to most other graphic thing. Was my first benchmark. Next time, I will just see what is the most digit of PI i20:25
asgard20032can calculate in both environment, and the time it will take... And like I said, in most case 30%, not every, sometime, that was more close, and other, linux even was 50% better, but like 1 test on 4 was 30% better20:25
BluesKajapparle, kubuntu is now supported financially by blue systems , rather than canonical ..the nvidia gt450 should be fine with the nvidia-current driver20:25
Galvatronapparle: Best try yourself20:26
apparleGalvatron: of course I'm :) But I was just wondering if there are any known problems I should workaround beforehand20:26
asgard20032It was after I builded my computer, just wanted to push its limit on benchmark, but I am not a benchmark professional20:26
Galvatronapparle:: But better stick to KDE 4.8.5, as 4.9 gives almost no performance increase, nor any revolutionary new featurer.20:27
Galvatronapparle: Instead, it might have some bugs, as expected from a fresh branch.20:27
apparleGalvatron: but it may have bug fixes as well20:28
apparleGalvatron: anyway, I'm the latest greatest version lover :P20:28
GalvatronBest spend a week or two with both20:28
GalvatronI've downgraded20:28
apparleGalvatron: then your experiences are surely worth sharing ?20:29
BluesKajKDE 4.9 works fine on 12.04 here20:29
asgard20032Whats really cool in KDE 4.9?20:29
apparleis there a ISO with 4.9 or do I have to install and then update to 4.920:30
asgard20032update20:30
BluesKajapparle, it's in the backports20:30
asgard20032not really update, but install 4.9 package20:30
GalvatronPrior to the yeasterday downgrade I'd been testing 4.9 for almost 2 weeks20:30
asgard20032from backport20:30
apparleasgard20032: seriously... is there anything cool left to update... it's not 4.1  or 4.2... it's 4.8!20:30
GalvatronSince they had loaded it to Kubuntu Backports before they announced the release20:31
BluesKajGalvatron, same here and there's absolutely nothing that I can report that's negative so far20:31
GalvatronI just say that there's no revolution between 4.8.5 and 4.920:31
BluesKajGalvatron,  that's common practice20:31
apparleI was just thinking if there was a direct way to get to 4.9 rather that from the default 12.04 4.8 and then a backport update20:31
GalvatronKubuntu 12.10, but it makes litte to no sense20:32
BluesKajapparle, next kernel upgrade perhaps20:32
apparleGalvatron: you should have seen the times of 4.2 to 4.4, each version had tons of *cool* updates20:32
apparleBluesKaj: you mean the kubuntu version update?20:32
GalvatronI saw20:32
BluesKajkde 4.9 has a few issues with nvidia on 12.1020:33
GalvatronKubuntu 9.04 and 9.10 were my first Linuxes20:33
apparleI used to love trying new versions .... even the themes and all used to change20:33
apparle:D20:33
GalvatronThen I had to migrate to GNOME, because of the decreasing performance20:34
BluesKajno apparle , a kernel version upgrade20:34
apparlethen what made you come back... 4.5 ?20:34
GalvatronI hadn't came back to Kubu until 12.04 and KDE 4820:34
GalvatronMy last KDE was 4.3 or 4.420:35
asgard20032I am a little disapointed by kubuntu20:35
asgard20032muon software center...20:35
GalvatronThan i had a long and nice time with GNOME20:35
apparleBluesKaj: how will a kernel update affect the kde version... I thought those 2 were altogether different20:35
asgard20032AkonadiTray20:35
GalvatronKDE 4.9 is extremely unlikely to make it to 12.04.x20:35
asgard20032If i click on akonadiTray, it just say a error message20:36
BluesKajnot always , sometimes kde upgrade is included20:36
rorkasgard20032: you can mix your kde software with other software, so you can just install your favourite software center :)20:36
GalvatronI would even say never - If you want it, go for 12.1020:36
apparleGalvatron: yeah, true... I was just about to ask, is the beta for 12.10 out?20:37
GalvatronThere's a very nice software/update manager, called Apper20:37
asgard20032I saw Apper20:37
BluesKajtry the backports , it won't fail , apparle , no more than any other major upgrade to your install20:37
apparleand someone tell me how to use ubottu once again, I've forgotten20:37
Galvatronapparle: Alpha 3, as of now20:37
asgard20032Apper is more like synaptic manager20:37
asgard20032So i like it more20:37
GalvatronBeta 1 is coming 30 VIII20:37
GalvatronOr on ^ IX20:37
Galvatron*6 IX20:38
asgard20032Muon software center lack what ubuntu software cener had20:38
BluesKajapparle, I'm running 12.10 with KDE 4.9 ..had a couple issues , but they're solved now20:38
asgard20032Like Top Aplication (to show what is hot)20:38
apparleGalvatron: why are you not saying 30th august or 6th sept ? I assume you meant that only20:38
GalvatronI'm used to that format of dates20:39
apparleubottu: how to call you?20:39
ubottuapparle: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:39
apparle!nvidia20:39
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto20:39
apparleohh cool... the bang :)20:39
asgard20032Matrox... a canadian video card...20:40
asgard20032I live in canada...20:40
apparleGalvatron: I thought that is the convention to refer to release dates that has started recently :D20:40
asgard20032SDL 2.0 will be released in less than 2 month...20:40
apparleand are there any current issue while installing from USB drive?20:41
asgard20032Does it will go in backport then in official repo?20:41
asgard20032Or does we will have to use next Kubuntu version to use it...20:41
GalvatronGalvatron: No, it's a convention I use, untill specified otherwise.;)20:41
Galvatronasgard20032: Most likely the later20:42
apparleasgard20032: I guess there must be some sdl specific ppa for ubuntu, just google it20:42
Galvatronasgard20032: Even Chromium 20 has not made it to UBuntu 12.04.120:42
asgard20032Because I don't want to learn an API that will be deprecated in few week...20:43
apparleGalvatron: what is the version of kde in 12.04.1 ?20:43
asgard20032SDL 1.220:43
GalvatronBut with PPAs you can always update your system, in a quasi-rolling fasion20:43
Galvatronapparle: 4.8.3 or 4.8.4 - don't remember clearly20:43
GalvatronBut there's 4.8.5 in Kubuntu Updates20:44
apparleshadeslayer: hey dude... are you around ?20:44
asgard20032With KDE, there is a major Issue...20:44
shadeslayerapparle: yeah20:44
asgard20032Everytime I have a file copying...20:44
asgard20032Everything don't work20:44
asgard20032until copy finish20:44
apparle\priv shadeslayer hey20:44
shadeslayerwrong \20:45
shadeslayer:P20:45
apparle:D20:45
asgard20032On a fast system: i7-3770k OC to 4.5 ghz, 16gb of ram, Veloci raptor 500 gb20:45
asgard20032So if I try to open a program(like Konsole) while i am copying a file on KDE, the cursor will change, but the program won't open until the copy finish20:45
asgard20032I copied many GB few hour ago20:46
apparleasgard20032: is the behaviour same even if you copy using the cp command in konsole20:48
asgard20032no20:48
asgard20032Only trough KDE copy20:49
asgard20032Like if all resource was on copy20:49
apparleasgard20032: I had seen that behaviour sometimes earlier... but never regularly enough to report it20:53
asgard20032I am currently working out with the KDE team for the issue while copying21:27
asgard20032We isolated the big part at least21:27
asgard20032ITs not CPU or memory related21:27
asgard20032Its IO related21:27
asgard20032with 99% on iotop21:27
apparlecan you point me to the bug, maybe I can help... or at least just stay in touch21:28
asgard20032join #kde21:29
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