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Ahmucki don't seem to have sound prefrences00:01
Ahmuck    2. Navigate there via the System menu: System -> Preferences -> Sound.00:01
Ahmuckvia 823700:01
kanliot ya, sound prefs is ubuntu00:02
kanliotnot on lubuntu00:02
Ahmuckk, so troubleshooting doesn't seem to work.00:02
kanliotwhat step are you on?00:07
AhmuckOsoVerde:~$ grep "Codec:" /proc/asound/card*/codec*00:12
Ahmuckshows nothing00:12
Ahmucki assume this means that the OS is not recognizing the sound card00:12
kanliotwhat page is that on?00:13
Ahmuckhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/HDAGeneric00:13
Ahmuckhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems00:13
kanliotcan you do sudo aplay -l00:15
kanliotsudo aplay -l00:15
W4sp`Marshall: marshall__ Are you still there....?00:25
marshall__yes00:27
W4spHey, how's it going?00:27
marshall__just got back to the house.. had to get some food00:28
W4spmarshall__: lucky you. Let me know when you are ready as I figured out something that may help.00:28
marshall__i'm ready00:28
W4spOK, first of all we need to get your font in TErminal big enough so that you can actually work with it. ;-)00:29
marshall__i can ssh into this box from another computer ;)00:30
W4spI would recommend to open a terminal and type 'xterm -fa Mono -fs 16 or whatever suits you best.00:30
marshall__actually.. i think i have an idea00:32
W4spVery good. Let's do it. SSH into the box and go to the home folder where you need to apply some changes.00:32
W4spShoot.00:32
Ahmucki have forgotten my sudo password00:32
W4spDo you want me to hack your root account? ;-)00:33
W4spSorry Ahmuck. I thought it was someone else talking to me.00:33
kanliotAhmuck, do you use your passw to login?00:33
Ahmuckyes00:34
Ahmucki suppose00:34
kanliotthat should be you sudo pw00:35
W4spmarshall__: `Marshall Are you ready?00:35
marshall__not quite00:36
marshall__i'm on a roll i think00:36
marshall__:D00:36
marshall__what does that command do, btw?00:36
W4spmarshall__: It opens xterm from xterm with larger font so you can read it.00:37
W4spmarshall__: Is there a long way to open a terminal?00:38
Ahmuckk, not sure how to retrive password00:38
Ahmuckso, i hear low sound, barely, which means it is working somewhat.  is there a way to boost the power output00:38
marshall__a long way?00:39
kanliot Ahmuck, you have a laptop?00:41
W4spmarshall__: OK, however. At some point you have a terminal. See if you have in ~/.config a directory lxsession. If it's not there create it. It lxsession create another directory LXDE. cp two files into it. cp /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart and desktop.conf to /home/<you>/.config/lxsession/LXDE00:42
marshall__O.o00:43
marshall__i'm a newbie..00:43
marshall__soo00:43
Ahmuckyes, i have a laptop00:43
marshall__i was talking to a guy from LXDE.. he has me on another mission with GTK Theme Switch00:44
marshall__any idea how to access that with lubuntu?00:44
kanliotAhmuck, use alsamixer to turn up volume, also check if laptop has volume turned up, its usually the "fucntion" key with combination with some keys marked volume up/down00:45
W4spmarshall__: Then vi desktop.conf and change sGtk/FontName=Sans 16 or even higher should you need it.00:45
kanliotW4sp, is this just to change font in xchat?00:46
Ahmuckkanliot: this is a desktop00:46
Ahmucki have the volume up on alsamixer all the way00:46
kanliotAhmuck, there are several mixers00:46
W4spmarshall__: kanliot That's to change the font of menues in LXDE00:46
kanliotif both mixers are up, then i can'thelp00:46
kanliotdid you check the font size in "look and feel"?00:47
kanliot"default font size"00:47
W4spmarshall__: kanliot It will effect everything, including menues and x-chat.00:47
marshall__W4sp, sorry... where is /config?00:47
kanliotwell if he opens "look and feel" and it works, then that would be easier00:48
W4spkanliot: Could you guide hime through please.00:48
kanliotuse the start menu to find "custom look and feel" under perferences.00:49
kanliotchange default font00:49
kanliotthat's it00:49
W4spThanks kanliot00:50
kanliot:)00:51
W4sp!cookies | kanliot00:54
ubottukanliot: Cookies are delicious delicacies.00:54
marshall__kanliot, i've tried that00:56
Ahmuckiirc i can reset password with a boot disk00:56
Ahmuckcorrect?00:56
kanliotAhmuck, your sudo password is same as login password on ubuntu00:56
kanliotk?00:56
Ahmuckcomputer is autologging in00:57
kanliotmarshall__, please install and run xchat-gnome00:57
marshall__it;s not an xchat issue00:57
kanliot?00:57
kanliotAhmuck, try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword00:58
marshall__kanliot, what happened was.. i've been using LXDE.. i upgraded to a 32" monitor (for videos) since then.. when using LXDE _ALL_ my text is extremely small. sans web browsers (chrome/firefox)01:00
kanliotmarshall__, did you reboot?01:00
marshall__so, we're talking my taskbar, my clock, my desktop, any programs (terminal, look and feel, xchat, etc) ... everything01:01
marshall__sigh.. :\01:01
Ahmuckkewl, ready now01:07
Ahmuckhttp://pastebin.com/G9nFKceB01:08
Ahmuckther is the output for sudo aplay -l01:08
kanliotAhmuck, you said audio is working, but very softly01:09
kanliotyou need to mess around with alsamixer01:09
kanliotmake sure audio is set to maximum01:09
W4spmarshall__: `Marshall OK, where are we now? Did you logout/login again?01:10
Ahmuckall settings are at 77\01:10
marshall__W4sp, why am i logging out and back in?01:10
marshall__i haven't made any changes01:11
W4spmarshall__: Because kanliot suggested you make the changes and reboot the system.  My question was it it worked.01:11
marshall__i havent made any changes, i was under the impression kanliot was advising to change font size with lxappearance01:13
kanliotafter rebooting01:13
kanlioti've had similar problems with font size when running WINE01:13
marshall__i've rebooted many times01:13
W4spmarshall__: Did you apply the changes kanliot suggested?01:13
marshall__lxappearance only changes active menu windows it seems01:14
marshall__yes. no hel[p01:14
marshall__*help01:14
W4spmarshall__: OK, do you think you can SSH into the box or run xterm from the box in question and follow my suggestion to copy and change a few files. I can give you the exact commands but I need your feedback on what's going on.01:15
marshall__W4sp, yes. give me 5 min01:16
marshall__and thank you01:16
W4spmarshall__: OK, I will now log out again and get back to my LXDE as I use a different DE.01:17
kanliotmarshall__, do you have an xorg.conf?  i'm thinking this: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/20466901:17
W4spmarshall__ I'm back.01:26
marshall__ok01:26
marshall__i'm ready01:26
marshall__let me check for xorg01:26
W4spmarshall__: What was the nick of the other person who assited you?01:27
W4spmarshall__: OK, gotcha. kanliot01:27
marshall__reading that now01:28
marshall__Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".01:30
marshall__VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.01:30
marshall__                  Device section "Default Device" must have a Driver line.01:30
marshall__Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'01:30
marshall__New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'01:30
W4sp!pastebin marshall__01:30
W4sp!flood marshall__01:31
marshall__oh yeah01:31
W4sp!flood | marshall__01:31
ubottumarshall__: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.01:31
W4sp!pastebin | marshall__01:31
marshall__ok01:35
marshall__have to reboot01:35
marshall__brb!01:36
`Marshallalmos up01:39
`MarshallWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO01:40
`Marshall:D01:40
`Marshallwhatever that was fixed it i believe01:47
kanliotwhat did you do?01:48
`Marshallcant find the link01:50
`Marshalldo you still have it W4sp ?01:50
`Marshallthanks W4sp !01:53
W4sphttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/20466902:01
W4spBut it came from kanliot. It was kanliot 's idea to fix it that way.02:01
kanliot:) one of the reasons i use ubuntu is to avoid configging xorg.conf02:04
`Marshalloh02:07
`Marshallthanks kanliot !02:07
Ahmuckhow do i get version # of lubuntu03:01
kanliot0.03:14
Ahmuckwhat is the default photo viewer for lubuntu04:24
Ahmuck?04:25
Unit193gpicview.04:25
leszekhi09:58
smilehi leszek :)10:06
n150phi all14:21
n150pis there a way to deselect some of the default packages while installing lubuntu from a livedisk?14:28
smilen150p: no, but you can try to use the minimal install if you like? or remove packages afterwards? :)14:30
silverarrowhi14:31
silverarrowdoes anyone know about printers with ink cartridges ?14:32
n150psmile, thank you.14:32
smilen150p: you are welcome14:32
silverarrowthere should be a way to clean cartrige heads or something14:32
smilesilverarrow: well printers are always difficult. Try and look for yourself on google.com - I always do that myself. Every model is different :(14:33
silverarrowyeah, in windows I do it from printer setup14:33
silverarrowI cannot find the equivalent function in lubuntu14:34
smilethere is a printer function also :)14:34
smilein your menu14:34
silverarrowthe printer works14:34
smilethe administration submenu maybe? :)14:35
silverarrowI have added printer and it prints, but the cleaning function is missing I think14:35
n150psilverarrow, as far as i know you need an appropriate driver for such operations. chances are, there is none. you should write in with the support of the printer's manufacturer14:46
silverarrowdarn14:46
silverarrowturned out to be rather cumbersome14:47
n150pyep. printing is easy, maintenance is not.14:47
n150pone can consider buying hardware from linux-friendly brands the next time ;)14:47
silverarrowtrue14:48
silverarrowthis is a regular hp thing, deskjet something, rather old too,14:48
silverarrowHowever, after installing a new cartridge it works fine14:49
silverarrowthe first page was a bit smudgy, second sharp and clean14:49
n150pcongrats ;)14:50
n150pyou solved the problem14:50
silverarrowI did :-) , or it sort of sorted it`s self out after test printing14:50
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venecohi... I have lubuntu on my laptop... but some programs slow down my laptop... and I want to install gnome desktop ( I don't want unity 3D)....16:02
venecoif I use  this instruction:  apt-get install ubuntu-desktop16:02
venecoI get unity 3D or gnome session?16:02
holsteinveneco: even gnome is diffrent now.. ubuntu is using unity, so that will get you unity16:03
holsteinveneco: gnome 3 is quite unity like.. if you are looking for gnome2, you might consider XFCE... xubuntu-desktop16:03
holsteinthough, lubuntu (LXDE) is quite light and lean, and i doubt you will find a change increases the performance of any applications16:04
holsteini would start by having realistic expectations of the hardware...16:04
venecoholstein: When I run some programs... for example QT design..... my laptop changes very mucho... it's very slow....16:05
venecoI have a Intel Core 2 Duo, with 4 GB Ram and NVidia 256 MB16:06
holsteinveneco: feel free and try gnome or whatever.. but i think you'll find that the performance is likely the same.. if its pulled in KDE libs, and using QT, i find QT just a bit "pokey" by comparison16:06
venecoholstein: I had Ubuntu 12.04, the laptop runs a little slow but Qt ran very good.... and now.... with ldxe desktop... My laptop runs very well but Qt isn't working16:10
venecoI think that I install gnome, is possible that Qt runs fine... isn't?16:11
holsteinveneco: should have not effect.. you can try running from the command line and look for error messages16:11
holsteinyou can try XFC, or install gnome-shell if you want.. gnome316:12
holsteinXFCE*16:12
venecoholstein: I'm sorry for this question, but, gnome-shell IS NOT the GUI desktop by default on Ubuntu.... right?16:17
bioterrorha16:18
bioterrorveneco, you want Mate desktop16:18
bioterrorthat's exactly what you're after16:18
bioterrorI'm running SalixOS 13.37 with Mate on my sluggish laptop and it performs better than Lubuntu :P16:18
venecobioterror: I want a gui-desktop based on gnome16:20
bioterrorMate = fork of Gnome 216:21
venecobut I don't want unity16:21
venecobioterror: thanks....16:21
bioterrorunfortunately Ubuntu doesnt have mate version, yet. I think16:21
venecojejejeje....16:21
bioterrorhttps://picasaweb.google.com/112221415637723651000/Salix1337MATEScreenshots16:22
holsteinveneco: ubuntu has unity.. ubuntu-desktop will install unity16:22
bioterrorthat's how it looks like16:22
holsteinthe default desktop in ubuntu 12.04 is unity16:22
holsteinveneco: gnome2 is gone.. gnome3 is installable16:22
bioterrorholstein, Gnome 2 is not gone16:22
bioterrorTue19:21 <bioterror> Mate = fork of Gnome 216:22
bioterrorthere's also this "Cinnamon"?16:23
holsteinbioterror: have you tried it?.. its not for me16:23
bioterrorholstein, I'm using it all the time ;)16:23
bioterrordo I have to take you a screenshot where I'm using it and showing terminal of our conversation?-)16:24
holsteinbioterror: i believe you... i should try it again... i tried it 6 months ago? something like that.. not for me16:24
bioterrorthere has been some rapid development, I think16:25
bioterrorbut from all the Mate distros, I chose Salix becouse they are small group of innovative people with love to their project16:25
holsteinive read great things about salix... mostly about the team16:26
bioterrortheir installer is quite good ;)16:27
venecobioterror, holstein: thanks for your help....16:31
venecoI installed xfce desktop...16:31
holsteinall is good?16:31
venecoholstein: I don't know.... I'm going to use right now... I'll be back in few minutes....16:32
venecoHi again16:36
venecoat this moment... I'm using xfce desktop...16:36
venecoit's very ugly... but Qt runs very well16:36
venecoI want to use Qt Designer16:37
venecointo lxde I can't use it16:37
venecothansk again16:37
silverarrowhi17:08
silverarrowis anyone clever with cannon camera and image viewing in lubuntu?17:08
silverarrowwhen I plug in camera, file manager opens and detects the pictures as fpeg17:11
silverarrowthey are all listed individually like square frames, but image is not showing17:11
silverarrowam I here?17:11
Ahmuckwhois sliverarrow17:14
taoseekerbetter connections this time I hope17:17
taoseekeris anyone using image viewer and load pictures from camera to computer in lubuntu?17:18
taoseekerI have trouble with a cannon camera, when I plug in it filemanager detects it, and there is a list of pictures, frames, but no image17:18
Ahmuckcorrect.17:19
taoseekerAhmuck, is that a common issue?17:21
Ahmuckits not really an issue.  i click on the photo and then am able to see the photo and cycle through them.  its the photo viewer your using i believe17:26
Ahmucktaoseeker: i am going to reboot for a upgrade17:32
Ahmuckwere you able to figure it out.  i think your looking for thumbnail views of the photos and i don´t believe the file system folder does this17:33
Ahmuckbut there are others here that might have better answers17:33
bioterrortaoseeker, and you canon camera is DSLR or just something smaller?17:35
bioterror*your17:35
silverarrowis there a way to check how much space is left on hard drive?18:12
wxlsilverarrow: df18:13
silverarrowthanks18:13
silverarrowI can`t remember the commands18:14
silverarrowI shall have to note them down on a board18:14
silverarrow32%18:15
wxlor you can use the gui18:16
wxlthe new one i guess is gnome-disks18:16
wxlold was palimpsest18:16
silverarrowI just noticed file manger shows how many  GB is left, down right corner18:17
silverarrowthanks18:18
smilebye :p18:27
Ahmuckheh, re-install to 12.x went well. what software has the pull down terminal.  gsomething?18:33
bioterror?18:34
bioterrorguake?18:34
Ahmuckyep, thx18:35
Ahmuckwhat package is ace games listeed as?18:54
bioterroryou mean ace of penguins?18:55
Ahmucksure18:57
Unit193ace-of-penguins19:00
bioterrordpkg -l penguins ;)19:00
micheghi, i see mysql user in ligthdm login how i can configure ligthdm to not show some user22:15
moveer-envigadoi can't play any videos in youtube22:33
Medicwhat is the difference between ubuntu and lubuntu?23:36
Unit193Default applications, config, userinterface (LXDE)23:37
Unit193!lubuntu23:37
ubottulubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.23:37
Medicis it easy to transition from one to the other?23:37
wxl!easybutton23:38
wxldarn, no easy button23:38
* wxl calls staples23:38
michegi have trouble with external monitor23:39
wxlall seriousness aside Medic LXDE is kind of a no frills environment. there will be a couple things that aren't how you expect them. whether or not it's easy it's hard to say, but i like to think it's fairly simple.23:39
wxlit's nothing like having to do everything out of the command line23:39
Unit193!purelubuntu23:39
ubottuIf you want to remove all !KDE, !GNOME and !XFCE packages and have a default !Lubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde »23:39
wxlbut yes if you mean the actual physical process of converting an ubuntu system to a lubuntu system see above23:40
Medicok, wasnt sure how "light" it really was. I like ubuntu but seems to be slowing down fo whatever reason as time goes by.23:40
wxlthen you'll love lubuntu23:40
MedicI am going to assume that i will lose all data in the process correct?23:41
wxlif you just install the lubuntu metapackages, no23:41
wxlessentially if you do that and follow that purelxde link, all you're doing is installing and removing packages23:41
wxlif you want to wipe ubuntu completely off and start with a fresh lubuntu, that would involve losing data. unless you dual booted.23:42
Medicwhat packages are being removed? Gnome obviously but, what will i lose as far as stuff i may have use for...23:43
wxlessentially the packages remove anything that relates to kde, gnome, and xfce23:43
wxlthe specifics of which depends on your own system23:44
Medicgnome is the interface that makes it look fancy correct? what are xfce and kde?23:44
wxlyep; more of the same23:44
Medicok so nothing that would have anything to do with wireless or other hardware? just stuff that uses ram to make it look cool.23:46
wxlyep23:47
Medicok that makes sense. I know I had to install some packages that I can't recall the name of at the moment to get certain things to work correctly on the laptop that is running ubuntu. I don't want to go through the hassle of doing it again if I don't have to.23:49
MedicI think one was for wireless23:49
MedicThanks for the assistance, I will be checking out the website descibed above!23:51
wxlMedic: before you go, one more thing23:52
wxlhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall sort of describes the install you're doing23:53
MedicWhat's up? I have to wait for it to update to 11.04 before I can do anything anyways23:53
MedicSweet! appreciate it...23:54
wxlin other words you want to install one or both of the metapackages lubuntu-core and lubuntu-desktop23:54

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