[00:01] <Ahmuck> i don't seem to have sound prefrences
[00:01] <Ahmuck>     2. Navigate there via the System menu: System -> Preferences -> Sound.
[00:01] <Ahmuck> via 8237
[00:02] <kanliot>  ya, sound prefs is ubuntu
[00:02] <kanliot> not on lubuntu
[00:02] <Ahmuck> k, so troubleshooting doesn't seem to work.
[00:07] <kanliot> what step are you on?
[00:12] <Ahmuck> OsoVerde:~$ grep "Codec:" /proc/asound/card*/codec*
[00:12] <Ahmuck> shows nothing
[00:12] <Ahmuck> i assume this means that the OS is not recognizing the sound card
[00:13] <kanliot> what page is that on?
[00:13] <Ahmuck> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/HDAGeneric
[00:13] <Ahmuck> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[00:15] <kanliot> can you do sudo aplay -l
[00:15] <kanliot> sudo aplay -l
[00:25] <W4sp> `Marshall: marshall__ Are you still there....?
[00:27] <marshall__> yes
[00:27] <W4sp> Hey, how's it going?
[00:28] <marshall__> just got back to the house.. had to get some food
[00:28] <W4sp> marshall__: lucky you. Let me know when you are ready as I figured out something that may help.
[00:28] <marshall__> i'm ready
[00:29] <W4sp> OK, first of all we need to get your font in TErminal big enough so that you can actually work with it. ;-)
[00:30] <marshall__> i can ssh into this box from another computer ;)
[00:30] <W4sp> I would recommend to open a terminal and type 'xterm -fa Mono -fs 16 or whatever suits you best.
[00:32] <marshall__> actually.. i think i have an idea
[00:32] <W4sp> Very good. Let's do it. SSH into the box and go to the home folder where you need to apply some changes.
[00:32] <W4sp> Shoot.
[00:32] <Ahmuck> i have forgotten my sudo password
[00:33] <W4sp> Do you want me to hack your root account? ;-)
[00:33] <W4sp> Sorry Ahmuck. I thought it was someone else talking to me.
[00:33] <kanliot> Ahmuck, do you use your passw to login?
[00:34] <Ahmuck> yes
[00:34] <Ahmuck> i suppose
[00:35] <kanliot> that should be you sudo pw
[00:35] <W4sp> marshall__: `Marshall Are you ready?
[00:36] <marshall__> not quite
[00:36] <marshall__> i'm on a roll i think
[00:36] <marshall__> :D
[00:36] <marshall__> what does that command do, btw?
[00:37] <W4sp> marshall__: It opens xterm from xterm with larger font so you can read it.
[00:38] <W4sp> marshall__: Is there a long way to open a terminal?
[00:38] <Ahmuck> k, not sure how to retrive password
[00:38] <Ahmuck> so, i hear low sound, barely, which means it is working somewhat.  is there a way to boost the power output
[00:39] <marshall__> a long way?
[00:41] <kanliot>  Ahmuck, you have a laptop?
[00:42] <W4sp> marshall__: OK, however. At some point you have a terminal. See if you have in ~/.config a directory lxsession. If it's not there create it. It lxsession create another directory LXDE. cp two files into it. cp /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart and desktop.conf to /home/<you>/.config/lxsession/LXDE
[00:43] <marshall__> O.o
[00:43] <marshall__> i'm a newbie..
[00:43] <marshall__> soo
[00:43] <Ahmuck> yes, i have a laptop
[00:44] <marshall__> i was talking to a guy from LXDE.. he has me on another mission with GTK Theme Switch
[00:44] <marshall__> any idea how to access that with lubuntu?
[00:45] <kanliot> Ahmuck, use alsamixer to turn up volume, also check if laptop has volume turned up, its usually the "fucntion" key with combination with some keys marked volume up/down
[00:45] <W4sp> marshall__: Then vi desktop.conf and change sGtk/FontName=Sans 16 or even higher should you need it.
[00:46] <kanliot> W4sp, is this just to change font in xchat?
[00:46] <Ahmuck> kanliot: this is a desktop
[00:46] <Ahmuck> i have the volume up on alsamixer all the way
[00:46] <kanliot> Ahmuck, there are several mixers
[00:46] <W4sp> marshall__: kanliot That's to change the font of menues in LXDE
[00:46] <kanliot> if both mixers are up, then i can'thelp
[00:47] <kanliot> did you check the font size in "look and feel"?
[00:47] <kanliot> "default font size"
[00:47] <W4sp> marshall__: kanliot It will effect everything, including menues and x-chat.
[00:47] <marshall__> W4sp, sorry... where is /config?
[00:48] <kanliot> well if he opens "look and feel" and it works, then that would be easier
[00:48] <W4sp> kanliot: Could you guide hime through please.
[00:49] <kanliot> use the start menu to find "custom look and feel" under perferences.
[00:49] <kanliot> change default font
[00:49] <kanliot> that's it
[00:50] <W4sp> Thanks kanliot
[00:51] <kanliot> :)
[00:54] <W4sp> !cookies | kanliot
[00:54] <ubottu> kanliot: Cookies are delicious delicacies.
[00:56] <marshall__> kanliot, i've tried that
[00:56] <Ahmuck> iirc i can reset password with a boot disk
[00:56] <Ahmuck> correct?
[00:56] <kanliot> Ahmuck, your sudo password is same as login password on ubuntu
[00:56] <kanliot> k?
[00:57] <Ahmuck> computer is autologging in
[00:57] <kanliot> marshall__, please install and run xchat-gnome
[00:57] <marshall__> it;s not an xchat issue
[00:57] <kanliot> ?
[00:58] <kanliot> Ahmuck, try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[01:00] <marshall__> kanliot, what happened was.. i've been using LXDE.. i upgraded to a 32" monitor (for videos) since then.. when using LXDE _ALL_ my text is extremely small. sans web browsers (chrome/firefox)
[01:00] <kanliot> marshall__, did you reboot?
[01:01] <marshall__> so, we're talking my taskbar, my clock, my desktop, any programs (terminal, look and feel, xchat, etc) ... everything
[01:01] <marshall__> sigh.. :\
[01:07] <Ahmuck> kewl, ready now
[01:08] <Ahmuck> http://pastebin.com/G9nFKceB
[01:08] <Ahmuck> ther is the output for sudo aplay -l
[01:09] <kanliot> Ahmuck, you said audio is working, but very softly
[01:09] <kanliot> you need to mess around with alsamixer
[01:09] <kanliot> make sure audio is set to maximum
[01:10] <W4sp> marshall__: `Marshall OK, where are we now? Did you logout/login again?
[01:10] <Ahmuck> all settings are at 77\
[01:10] <marshall__> W4sp, why am i logging out and back in?
[01:11] <marshall__> i haven't made any changes
[01:11] <W4sp> marshall__: Because kanliot suggested you make the changes and reboot the system.  My question was it it worked.
[01:13] <marshall__> i havent made any changes, i was under the impression kanliot was advising to change font size with lxappearance
[01:13] <kanliot> after rebooting
[01:13] <kanliot> i've had similar problems with font size when running WINE
[01:13] <marshall__> i've rebooted many times
[01:13] <W4sp> marshall__: Did you apply the changes kanliot suggested?
[01:14] <marshall__> lxappearance only changes active menu windows it seems
[01:14] <marshall__> yes. no hel[p
[01:14] <marshall__> *help
[01:15] <W4sp> marshall__: OK, do you think you can SSH into the box or run xterm from the box in question and follow my suggestion to copy and change a few files. I can give you the exact commands but I need your feedback on what's going on.
[01:16] <marshall__> W4sp, yes. give me 5 min
[01:16] <marshall__> and thank you
[01:17] <W4sp> marshall__: OK, I will now log out again and get back to my LXDE as I use a different DE.
[01:17] <kanliot> marshall__, do you have an xorg.conf?  i'm thinking this: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/204669
[01:26] <W4sp> marshall__ I'm back.
[01:26] <marshall__> ok
[01:26] <marshall__> i'm ready
[01:26] <marshall__> let me check for xorg
[01:27] <W4sp> marshall__: What was the nick of the other person who assited you?
[01:27] <W4sp> marshall__: OK, gotcha. kanliot
[01:28] <marshall__> reading that now
[01:30] <marshall__> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[01:30] <marshall__> VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[01:30] <marshall__>                   Device section "Default Device" must have a Driver line.
[01:30] <marshall__> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[01:30] <marshall__> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[01:30] <W4sp> !pastebin marshall__
[01:31] <W4sp> !flood marshall__
[01:31] <marshall__> oh yeah
[01:31] <W4sp> !flood | marshall__
[01:31] <ubottu> marshall__: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[01:31] <W4sp> !pastebin | marshall__
[01:35] <marshall__> ok
[01:35] <marshall__> have to reboot
[01:36] <marshall__> brb!
[01:39] <`Marshall> almos up
[01:40] <`Marshall> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[01:40] <`Marshall> :D
[01:47] <`Marshall> whatever that was fixed it i believe
[01:48] <kanliot> what did you do?
[01:50] <`Marshall> cant find the link
[01:50] <`Marshall> do you still have it W4sp ?
[01:53] <`Marshall> thanks W4sp !
[02:01] <W4sp> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/204669
[02:01] <W4sp> But it came from kanliot. It was kanliot 's idea to fix it that way.
[02:04] <kanliot> :) one of the reasons i use ubuntu is to avoid configging xorg.conf
[02:07] <`Marshall> oh
[02:07] <`Marshall> thanks kanliot !
[03:01] <Ahmuck> how do i get version # of lubuntu
[03:14] <kanliot> 0.
[04:24] <Ahmuck> what is the default photo viewer for lubuntu
[04:25] <Ahmuck> ?
[04:25] <Unit193> gpicview.
[09:58] <leszek> hi
[10:06] <smile> hi leszek :)
[14:21] <n150p> hi all
[14:28] <n150p> is there a way to deselect some of the default packages while installing lubuntu from a livedisk?
[14:30] <smile> n150p: no, but you can try to use the minimal install if you like? or remove packages afterwards? :)
[14:31] <silverarrow> hi
[14:32] <silverarrow> does anyone know about printers with ink cartridges ?
[14:32] <n150p> smile, thank you.
[14:32] <smile> n150p: you are welcome
[14:32] <silverarrow> there should be a way to clean cartrige heads or something
[14:33] <smile> silverarrow: well printers are always difficult. Try and look for yourself on google.com - I always do that myself. Every model is different :(
[14:33] <silverarrow> yeah, in windows I do it from printer setup
[14:34] <silverarrow> I cannot find the equivalent function in lubuntu
[14:34] <smile> there is a printer function also :)
[14:34] <smile> in your menu
[14:34] <silverarrow> the printer works
[14:35] <smile> the administration submenu maybe? :)
[14:35] <silverarrow> I have added printer and it prints, but the cleaning function is missing I think
[14:46] <n150p> silverarrow, as far as i know you need an appropriate driver for such operations. chances are, there is none. you should write in with the support of the printer's manufacturer
[14:46] <silverarrow> darn
[14:47] <silverarrow> turned out to be rather cumbersome
[14:47] <n150p> yep. printing is easy, maintenance is not.
[14:47] <n150p> one can consider buying hardware from linux-friendly brands the next time ;)
[14:48] <silverarrow> true
[14:48] <silverarrow> this is a regular hp thing, deskjet something, rather old too,
[14:49] <silverarrow> However, after installing a new cartridge it works fine
[14:49] <silverarrow> the first page was a bit smudgy, second sharp and clean
[14:50] <n150p> congrats ;)
[14:50] <n150p> you solved the problem
[14:50] <silverarrow> I did :-) , or it sort of sorted it`s self out after test printing
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[16:02] <veneco> hi... I have lubuntu on my laptop... but some programs slow down my laptop... and I want to install gnome desktop ( I don't want unity 3D)....
[16:02] <veneco> if I use  this instruction:  apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[16:02] <veneco> I get unity 3D or gnome session?
[16:03] <holstein> veneco: even gnome is diffrent now.. ubuntu is using unity, so that will get you unity
[16:03] <holstein> veneco: gnome 3 is quite unity like.. if you are looking for gnome2, you might consider XFCE... xubuntu-desktop
[16:04] <holstein> though, lubuntu (LXDE) is quite light and lean, and i doubt you will find a change increases the performance of any applications
[16:04] <holstein> i would start by having realistic expectations of the hardware...
[16:05] <veneco> holstein: When I run some programs... for example QT design..... my laptop changes very mucho... it's very slow....
[16:06] <veneco> I have a Intel Core 2 Duo, with 4 GB Ram and NVidia 256 MB
[16:06] <holstein> veneco: feel free and try gnome or whatever.. but i think you'll find that the performance is likely the same.. if its pulled in KDE libs, and using QT, i find QT just a bit "pokey" by comparison
[16:10] <veneco> holstein: I had Ubuntu 12.04, the laptop runs a little slow but Qt ran very good.... and now.... with ldxe desktop... My laptop runs very well but Qt isn't working
[16:11] <veneco> I think that I install gnome, is possible that Qt runs fine... isn't?
[16:11] <holstein> veneco: should have not effect.. you can try running from the command line and look for error messages
[16:12] <holstein> you can try XFC, or install gnome-shell if you want.. gnome3
[16:12] <holstein> XFCE*
[16:17] <veneco> holstein: I'm sorry for this question, but, gnome-shell IS NOT the GUI desktop by default on Ubuntu.... right?
[16:18] <bioterror> ha
[16:18] <bioterror> veneco, you want Mate desktop
[16:18] <bioterror> that's exactly what you're after
[16:18] <bioterror> I'm running SalixOS 13.37 with Mate on my sluggish laptop and it performs better than Lubuntu :P
[16:20] <veneco> bioterror: I want a gui-desktop based on gnome
[16:21] <bioterror> Mate = fork of Gnome 2
[16:21] <veneco> but I don't want unity
[16:21] <veneco> bioterror: thanks....
[16:21] <bioterror> unfortunately Ubuntu doesnt have mate version, yet. I think
[16:21] <veneco> jejejeje....
[16:22] <bioterror> https://picasaweb.google.com/112221415637723651000/Salix1337MATEScreenshots
[16:22] <holstein> veneco: ubuntu has unity.. ubuntu-desktop will install unity
[16:22] <bioterror> that's how it looks like
[16:22] <holstein> the default desktop in ubuntu 12.04 is unity
[16:22] <holstein> veneco: gnome2 is gone.. gnome3 is installable
[16:22] <bioterror> holstein, Gnome 2 is not gone
[16:22] <bioterror> Tue19:21 <bioterror> Mate = fork of Gnome 2
[16:23] <bioterror> there's also this "Cinnamon"?
[16:23] <holstein> bioterror: have you tried it?.. its not for me
[16:23] <bioterror> holstein, I'm using it all the time ;)
[16:24] <bioterror> do I have to take you a screenshot where I'm using it and showing terminal of our conversation?-)
[16:24] <holstein> bioterror: i believe you... i should try it again... i tried it 6 months ago? something like that.. not for me
[16:25] <bioterror> there has been some rapid development, I think
[16:25] <bioterror> but from all the Mate distros, I chose Salix becouse they are small group of innovative people with love to their project
[16:26] <holstein> ive read great things about salix... mostly about the team
[16:27] <bioterror> their installer is quite good ;)
[16:31] <veneco> bioterror, holstein: thanks for your help....
[16:31] <veneco> I installed xfce desktop...
[16:31] <holstein> all is good?
[16:32] <veneco> holstein: I don't know.... I'm going to use right now... I'll be back in few minutes....
[16:36] <veneco> Hi again
[16:36] <veneco> at this moment... I'm using xfce desktop...
[16:36] <veneco> it's very ugly... but Qt runs very well
[16:37] <veneco> I want to use Qt Designer
[16:37] <veneco> into lxde I can't use it
[16:37] <veneco> thansk again
[17:08] <silverarrow> hi
[17:08] <silverarrow> is anyone clever with cannon camera and image viewing in lubuntu?
[17:11] <silverarrow> when I plug in camera, file manager opens and detects the pictures as fpeg
[17:11] <silverarrow> they are all listed individually like square frames, but image is not showing
[17:11] <silverarrow> am I here?
[17:14] <Ahmuck> whois sliverarrow
[17:17] <taoseeker> better connections this time I hope
[17:18] <taoseeker> is anyone using image viewer and load pictures from camera to computer in lubuntu?
[17:18] <taoseeker> I have trouble with a cannon camera, when I plug in it filemanager detects it, and there is a list of pictures, frames, but no image
[17:19] <Ahmuck> correct.
[17:21] <taoseeker> Ahmuck, is that a common issue?
[17:26] <Ahmuck> its not really an issue.  i click on the photo and then am able to see the photo and cycle through them.  its the photo viewer your using i believe
[17:32] <Ahmuck> taoseeker: i am going to reboot for a upgrade
[17:33] <Ahmuck> were you able to figure it out.  i think your looking for thumbnail views of the photos and i don´t believe the file system folder does this
[17:33] <Ahmuck> but there are others here that might have better answers
[17:35] <bioterror> taoseeker, and you canon camera is DSLR or just something smaller?
[17:35] <bioterror> *your
[18:12] <silverarrow> is there a way to check how much space is left on hard drive?
[18:13] <wxl> silverarrow: df
[18:13] <silverarrow> thanks
[18:14] <silverarrow> I can`t remember the commands
[18:14] <silverarrow> I shall have to note them down on a board
[18:15] <silverarrow> 32%
[18:16] <wxl> or you can use the gui
[18:16] <wxl> the new one i guess is gnome-disks
[18:16] <wxl> old was palimpsest
[18:17] <silverarrow> I just noticed file manger shows how many  GB is left, down right corner
[18:18] <silverarrow> thanks
[18:27] <smile> bye :p
[18:33] <Ahmuck> heh, re-install to 12.x went well. what software has the pull down terminal.  gsomething?
[18:34] <bioterror> ?
[18:34] <bioterror> guake?
[18:35] <Ahmuck> yep, thx
[18:54] <Ahmuck> what package is ace games listeed as?
[18:55] <bioterror> you mean ace of penguins?
[18:57] <Ahmuck> sure
[19:00] <Unit193> ace-of-penguins
[19:00] <bioterror> dpkg -l penguins ;)
[22:15] <micheg> hi, i see mysql user in ligthdm login how i can configure ligthdm to not show some user
[22:33] <moveer-envigado> i can't play any videos in youtube
[23:36] <Medic> what is the difference between ubuntu and lubuntu?
[23:37] <Unit193> Default applications, config, userinterface (LXDE)
[23:37] <Unit193> !lubuntu
[23:37] <ubottu> lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.
[23:37] <Medic> is it easy to transition from one to the other?
[23:38] <wxl> !easybutton
[23:38] <wxl> darn, no easy button
[23:38]  * wxl calls staples
[23:39] <micheg> i have trouble with external monitor
[23:39] <wxl> all seriousness aside Medic LXDE is kind of a no frills environment. there will be a couple things that aren't how you expect them. whether or not it's easy it's hard to say, but i like to think it's fairly simple.
[23:39] <wxl> it's nothing like having to do everything out of the command line
[23:39] <Unit193> !purelubuntu
[23:39] <ubottu> If you want to remove all !KDE, !GNOME and !XFCE packages and have a default !Lubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde »
[23:40] <wxl> but yes if you mean the actual physical process of converting an ubuntu system to a lubuntu system see above
[23:40] <Medic> ok, wasnt sure how "light" it really was. I like ubuntu but seems to be slowing down fo whatever reason as time goes by.
[23:40] <wxl> then you'll love lubuntu
[23:41] <Medic> I am going to assume that i will lose all data in the process correct?
[23:41] <wxl> if you just install the lubuntu metapackages, no
[23:41] <wxl> essentially if you do that and follow that purelxde link, all you're doing is installing and removing packages
[23:42] <wxl> if you want to wipe ubuntu completely off and start with a fresh lubuntu, that would involve losing data. unless you dual booted.
[23:43] <Medic> what packages are being removed? Gnome obviously but, what will i lose as far as stuff i may have use for...
[23:43] <wxl> essentially the packages remove anything that relates to kde, gnome, and xfce
[23:44] <wxl> the specifics of which depends on your own system
[23:44] <Medic> gnome is the interface that makes it look fancy correct? what are xfce and kde?
[23:44] <wxl> yep; more of the same
[23:46] <Medic> ok so nothing that would have anything to do with wireless or other hardware? just stuff that uses ram to make it look cool.
[23:47] <wxl> yep
[23:49] <Medic> ok that makes sense. I know I had to install some packages that I can't recall the name of at the moment to get certain things to work correctly on the laptop that is running ubuntu. I don't want to go through the hassle of doing it again if I don't have to.
[23:49] <Medic> I think one was for wireless
[23:51] <Medic> Thanks for the assistance, I will be checking out the website descibed above!
[23:52] <wxl> Medic: before you go, one more thing
[23:53] <wxl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall sort of describes the install you're doing
[23:53] <Medic> What's up? I have to wait for it to update to 11.04 before I can do anything anyways
[23:54] <Medic> Sweet! appreciate it...
[23:54] <wxl> in other words you want to install one or both of the metapackages lubuntu-core and lubuntu-desktop