 this google u speak of,
 tell me more
[01:17] <cprofitt> bazhang: it is a small insignifcant company that will never rival Microsoft and is likley to go out of business like Apple
[01:17] <cprofitt> :-)
[01:17] <bazhang> hehe
[01:54] <jigsaw433> ubuntu is a fucking piece of shit
[01:54] <jigsaw433> !ops
[04:35] <iToast> "* Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned)."
[04:35] <iToast> so bazhang decided to change my +q to a +b?
[04:36] <iToast> I already knew He was going to make sure my ticket got no further.
[04:36] <iToast> Can I talk to a oper.
[04:37] <iToast> Elky?
[04:37] <iToast> Corey,?
[04:37] <iToast> I'd like to speak to a oper about this as this is abuse at this point.
[04:38] <IdleOne> if by oper you mean staff, they can't help you.
[04:39] <iToast> yes.
[04:39] <iToast> Staff's are opers...
[04:39] <iToast> IRC Terms Staffer = Network admin Oper = Channel admin
[04:39] <IdleOne> send an email to the IRCC and they will get to it ASAP. we channel ops have no access to the IRCC email.
[04:39] <iToast> I emailed IRCC
[04:39] <IdleOne> now be patient
[04:39] <iToast> I also tried to get the +q removed in here but he told me to leave the channel if I having nothign further
[04:40] <iToast> as I explained to another op how it's oppinion +q'd
[04:40] <iToast> Now he's raised it to a +b over him not liking my oppinion.
[04:40] <IdleOne> right, you tried to resolve the +q and were not satisfied with the outcome. You emailed the IRCC, now wait for them to reply.
[04:40] <iToast> The reason I sent the email is I couldn't get another op when he wanted me to leave
[04:41] <IdleOne> Well you got me now.
[04:42] <IdleOne> I am telling you the +q/+b will not be removed until the IRCC has reviewed the issue.
[04:42] <iToast> That's a first. I get a op that's not a friend of the op who issued the command.
[04:43] <iToast> So how long does it take on average to get a reply or even a view on the ticket.
[04:43] <iToast> hey gry !
[04:43] <IdleOne> all depends.
[04:43] <IdleOne> We are volunteers, there is no schedule.
[04:44] <iToast> I wish canacole could have paid workers be OP's in these channels.
[04:44] <IdleOne> You think that would make it easier for you to get unbanned?
[04:44] <iToast> Any abuse / disputes like this could result in them loosing their job, so there would NEVER be a oppinion based +q or +b
[04:45] <iToast> No, I think it would make sure a OP has a STRONG NON OPPINION based reason for their actions.
[04:45] <IdleOne> all +q and +b are opinion based, you just happen to disagree with the opinion.
[04:45] <iToast> No they are not.
[04:45] <iToast> They are based on rule breaking and abuse...
[04:45] <iToast> That'd be like a Freendode staffer banning you because they don't like your name
[04:45] <IdleOne> iToast: I can see we aren't going to get anywhere. I suggest you wait patiently for the ircc to reply to your email. give them at least 72 hours to reply.
[04:46] <iToast> IDK why It had to be elevated to ircc...
[04:46] <IdleOne> because you disagree with the judgement of the op and wanted to complain to someone in charge.
[04:47] <iToast> I wanted a whole DIFFERENT op to deal with it.
[04:47] <IdleOne> the ircc are the people in charge.
[04:47] <iToast> I wish the IRC ops were paid workers.
[04:47] <IdleOne> So do we.
[04:47] <IdleOne> not going to happen.
[04:47] <iToast> I said paid workers, not the same ops now.
[04:48] <iToast> even if it was the same ops not everyone would be hired.
[04:48] <IdleOne> also, I am a whole different op and I agree with the decision bazhang took
[04:48] <iToast> Would you like to explain how come?
[04:48] <IdleOne> because we have the same opinions.
[04:48] <iToast> How so.
[04:48] <IdleOne> usually
[04:49] <iToast> He banned me as I said I think people should have to try and help themselfs before they come to the IRC channel
[04:49] <iToast> So you think everyone should be spoon fed and not try anything on their own?
[04:49] <iToast> The problem the guy was having was a quick google away but you guys treat it like "GOOGLE FU"
[04:50] <iToast> I even answered his question.
[04:51] <iToast> I'm probably going to get a +Q here for thinking people should help themselfs first.
[04:51] <IdleOne> nope, but I'm going to ask you to part the channel and wait for the ircc to respond to your email.
[04:52] <iToast> Same thing bazhang did. Asked me to leave as there was a differing oppinion... and it was abuse over a oppinion.
[04:52] <iToast> I'l be in #ubuntu-social
[06:36] <bazhang> smartboy is awfully trigger happy with the bot
[06:36] <IdleOne> he's trying to gain points towards membership...
[06:36] <bazhang> yikes
[06:37] <IdleOne> I haven't really been paying attention but from what I see he is not really that helpful. He's trying though.
[06:37] <bazhang> doing a lot of /me after flagging others for ot is not impressive
[06:37] <IdleOne> indeed
[06:38] <bazhang> and redirecting to -server? that seemed out of the blue
[06:38] <IdleOne> well, it kinda sorta makes sense if you don't read the entire question and try to be first to answer
[06:39] <bazhang> and know nothing about the subject matter at hand, yeah
[06:39] <IdleOne> hehe
 ESAD.
[06:43] <IdleOne> haven't seen that one in a long time
[07:15] <IdleOne> bazhang: could you please tell andrew to knock it off with the ot comments. coming from me it will just be the police abusing him.
[08:28] <knome> o.O
[09:02] <bazhang> IdleOne, sorry, had to be away for a bit, missed it. that was andrewh92 or so I am guessing
[12:05] <alexm> we have a user in #ubuntu-cat who has many connections and it's been flooding the channel for a few days
[12:05] <alexm> e.g. http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/08/13/%23ubuntu-cat.html
[12:05] <alexm> all those jaume_off* are connected from the same ip
[12:06] <alexm> i was going to ban the ip but i'd like to hear what you think first
[12:22] <Tm_T> ban the ip if it fits
[12:25] <alexm> ok, thanks, will do and will try to contact the individual behind the bot
[13:45] <bazhang> "I know this is totally offtopic, BUT..."
[14:05] <bazhang> apart from irssi and weechat, ircii is the only terminal based irc client I can seem to find
 I'm wondering: If I'm contributing to Ubuntu Studio, should I apply membership via the normal Ubuntu board or Xubuntu board?
 my server is being used in a botnet, my isp have called me and will soon block my internet connection, how can i fix it?
[14:19] <bazhang> I guess asking if it's ubuntu-server would be a propos
[14:32] <cprofitt> bazhang: did the issue with the botnet get resolved?
[14:38] <DJones> I think the only advise they were given was to reinstall, the only other thing they asked was how to avoid it in future
[15:05] <bazhang> yep, pretty much
[15:09] <cprofitt> I just talked with him... for the last 30 minnutes
[15:09] <cprofitt> it looks like he has IRC traffic coming from his server... and exposed SSH to the Internet w/o properly securing it.
[15:10] <cprofitt> I gave him links to a few things to secure it... and advised him a reinstall is wise when you do not know what has been done to your box
[15:13] <bazhang> ouchie
[15:14] <bazhang> I love it when users say they have tried "everything"
[15:19] <mneptok> they say that, and yet i still have a pen full of goats, and clean, unstained altars.
[15:19] <bazhang> :0
[15:24] <cprofitt> lol
[15:29] <cprofitt> bazhang: they have tried everything they know of...
[15:30] <cprofitt> its a limited set of information, or in some cases, none that they are choosing from
[15:30] <bazhang> cprofitt, he never did get back with the pastebin of what commands in "everything" he tried
[15:30] <bazhang> heh yeah
[15:31] <cprofitt> I think he was a bit nervous that I was a hacker at first...
[15:31] <cprofitt> he was very tight with information... then when I told him I did not have enough to really help him and sent him towards the forums he pasted some information tht helped a bit