Trixar_za | When in doubt, it's probably nvidia's fault somehow | 00:11 |
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zeref | lol | 00:15 |
zeref | i checked in synaptic and their were some mismatch versions in the kernel | 00:16 |
zeref | s/their/there | 00:16 |
=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
Squirm | morning | 04:59 |
jrgns | morning | 05:27 |
* Kilos greets | 05:48 | |
magespawn | morning all | 05:51 |
Kilos | hiya magespawn | 05:51 |
magespawn | how is the highveld this morning? | 05:52 |
Kilos | iced up | 05:52 |
magespawn | normal then. | 05:52 |
Kilos | lol yeah | 05:52 |
magespawn | Squirm you still here? | 05:53 |
magespawn | Kilos do you know anything about chickens? | 05:55 |
Kilos | yessir | 05:56 |
Kilos | used to bread my own broilers | 05:56 |
Kilos | breed | 05:57 |
magespawn | what is the best way to grow them from day old? | 05:57 |
Kilos | gotta try member the names of the feeds but you use starter mash for 3 weeks | 05:58 |
Kilos | broilers hey? | 05:58 |
Kilos | there are 3 types of mash for them. starter growing and um | 05:58 |
Kilos | afrond | 05:59 |
magespawn | yup | 05:59 |
Kilos | finisher i think it was called | 05:59 |
magespawn | yes thats it | 05:59 |
Kilos | tried the recommended way was 2 weeks starter 2 weeks growing and 2 weeks finisher | 05:59 |
Kilos | but 3 weeks styarter and 3 weeks finisher worked better | 06:00 |
magespawn | there is a bit of a chicken revolution going on down here | 06:00 |
Kilos | tell me bout it | 06:00 |
magespawn | how old when you sell them 6 or 8 weeks? | 06:00 |
Kilos | 6 | 06:00 |
Kilos | most were 2kg at 6 weeks but there are always some slow growers | 06:01 |
magespawn | the customers here seem to prefer the 8 week old bird because it look bigger. | 06:01 |
magespawn | also some breeds have long legs that are taller therefore looks bigger | 06:02 |
Kilos | you can keep feeding them forever but they get so big they cant walk | 06:02 |
Kilos | 2kg is a big chicken | 06:03 |
magespawn | yup | 06:03 |
Kilos | not often you get them that size in supermarkets | 06:03 |
magespawn | have to go check a fax machine bbl ty Kilos | 06:03 |
Kilos | feeding the mash at 2 week stints they grow slower | 06:03 |
Kilos | k | 06:04 |
Kilos | i go fight unity back to size. bbl | 06:13 |
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* Squirm yawns | 06:34 | |
superfly | morning all you lazy bones! | 06:42 |
Trixar_za | I'm not lazy, I'm just selectively active | 07:14 |
superfly | hahahaha | 07:22 |
Symmetria | hrm | 08:00 |
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=== Kerbero[afk] is now known as Kerbero | ||
jrgns | quick poll. Uncapped vs Capped ADSL? | 09:01 |
Symmetria | entirely depends on your usage | 09:13 |
Symmetria | I could never go capped | 09:13 |
Symmetria | I move terabytes of data a month for both work and normal | 09:13 |
jrgns | kewl | 09:13 |
Squirm | also, depends if you get shaped uncapped too | 09:13 |
Symmetria | shaped vs unshaped doesnt make a difference ot me, no one shapes local | 09:13 |
jrgns | let's assume unshaped for both | 09:13 |
Symmetria | and most of my transfers are local | 09:14 |
Symmetria | jrgns whats the usage for? normal home line? | 09:14 |
Squirm | Symmetria: you have access to a nice backbone | 09:14 |
Symmetria | and if its normal home line, what sorta stuff are you moving | 09:14 |
Symmetria | squirm heh, even if I didn't, no one shapes ssh, and you can ssh tunnel everything :p | 09:14 |
Squirm | my ssh tunnels to my dedi in the US are very slow :/ | 09:16 |
Squirm | I can't even seem to browse through them | 09:16 |
Symmetria | heh, never tunnel to the US, thats high latency, always to europe | 09:18 |
Squirm | at work we run off the TENET backbone | 09:18 |
Squirm | uncapped, etc | 09:18 |
Symmetria | squirm where you work? | 09:19 |
Squirm | at home, on our little 384 line, it's shockingly slow | 09:19 |
Squirm | Treverton College | 09:19 |
Squirm | our ISP is eSn | 09:19 |
Symmetria | aahhh | 09:19 |
Symmetria | heh yes, I remeber doing the whole ESN setup | 09:19 |
Symmetria | heh, there are some nice configs on that ESN setup, it took me a day or 2 to figure out how to do them nicely | 09:19 |
Symmetria | (I designed the TENET network, and the ESN solution) | 09:20 |
Squirm | nice | 09:20 |
Squirm | I was going to ask if you can bump our line speed up a little. then realised it's the line we have :P | 09:20 |
Symmetria | heh the design principles made it relatively easy to actually do it though | 09:20 |
Symmetria | the design principle behind the tenet network was, make it fast enough that if anyone ever has a bandwidth problem, its because their internal networks couldnt handle it | 09:21 |
Symmetria | not because the network couldnt handle it | 09:21 |
Squirm | nice | 09:21 |
Symmetria | eliminate all quality of service elements and throw bandwidth at the problem, more and more bandwidth | 09:21 |
Symmetria | very few people have any concept of just how fast the entire network is combined | 09:21 |
Squirm | on a good day, I'll get a speed of 380kb/s | 09:21 |
magespawn | hey superfly nice of you to drop in | 09:22 |
Symmetria | heh squirm, wanna take a guess at total network interface speed on that network? | 09:22 |
Squirm | Symmetria: no, not really. | 09:22 |
Symmetria | :P when I left, it was an aggregated 800 gigabit | 09:22 |
Squirm | :( | 09:22 |
Symmetria | and its probably grown since then to hit the terabit mark | 09:22 |
Squirm | esn? | 09:22 |
Squirm | or TENET? | 09:22 |
Symmetria | no, TENET's backend network | 09:22 |
Squirm | well | 09:23 |
Symmetria | Im not sure what the ESN figures are right now | 09:23 |
Squirm | I used gigabit lan for the first time last weekend | 09:23 |
Squirm | :P | 09:23 |
Symmetria | but heh, you'd never get shaped on there because TENET doesnt support shaping :p | 09:23 |
Symmetria | not because they couldnt, but because by policy that I put in place, it was rejected | 09:23 |
Symmetria | Ive always believed that internet access should be as open as humanly possible | 09:23 |
* tonberry352_ has gigabit all the way to mirror.ac.za | 09:23 | |
jrgns | Symmetria just general poll | 09:23 |
jrgns | i have friends in the ISP business that say that uncapped is killing it | 09:24 |
Squirm | Symmetria: so this 2:1 contention ratio esn offers? | 09:24 |
Symmetria | squirm thats contention of the IPC circuits they are buying | 09:24 |
jrgns | i have two capped accounts, but i never reach the caps, and both of them are 66% free | 09:24 |
Symmetria | heh jrgns heh, people say the uncapped is killing it because of the costs of providing uncapped not because uncapped is not feasible technically | 09:25 |
Symmetria | telkom charges for circuits into the adsl cloud are insanely expensive | 09:25 |
Squirm | I saw Googles gigabit internet offering | 09:25 |
Symmetria | and an uncapped provider has to run very very heavy contention in order to make money | 09:25 |
Squirm | and was awestruck | 09:25 |
Squirm | I want to have that connection | 09:25 |
Symmetria | you can only contend on those levels if you have sufficient client base | 09:25 |
Symmetria | small client base and you're gonna be dead in the water | 09:26 |
Squirm | gigabit connection, uncapped, R580pm | 09:26 |
Symmetria | squirm, heh, trust me, most people wil never use that speed | 09:26 |
jrgns | Symmetria exactly | 09:26 |
Symmetria | I had a gigabit worth of bandwidth at home in capetown | 09:26 |
Squirm | Symmetria: but still, R580pm, dirt cheap | 09:26 |
jrgns | the big guys will get bigger, and the smaller guys will be amalgamated | 09:26 |
Symmetria | jrgns thats business though | 09:26 |
Symmetria | jrgns the simple fact is, if you read what I wrote in 2010 I think it was, I wrote an article about this | 09:27 |
Symmetria | bandwidth is NOT a source of profit, you *CANNOT* sell bandwidth to make money on its own in the long run unless you're a huge player | 09:27 |
jrgns | Symmetria link? i'd love to read it | 09:27 |
Symmetria | bandwidth is a commodity, you use it to sell and make money off other services | 09:27 |
jrgns | ah, kewl | 09:27 |
jrgns | like? | 09:27 |
Symmetria | lemme find the link | 09:28 |
Symmetria | http://mybroadband.co.za/news/telecoms/11212-the-isp-industry-where-to-from-here.html | 09:28 |
jrgns | shot, thnx | 09:29 |
Symmetria | brb, going to fetch something | 09:30 |
jrgns | damn, wish i read that a year ago | 09:34 |
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=== Kerbero is now known as Kerbero[afk] | ||
=== Kerbero[afk] is now known as Kerbero | ||
=== SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg | ||
Kilos | hi superfly magespawn and others | 14:19 |
superfly | hi Kilos | 14:19 |
magespawn | hey Kilos, superfly | 14:26 |
superfly | hey magespawn | 14:26 |
magespawn | good to see you still around | 14:28 |
magespawn | have you used nagios? | 14:29 |
superfly | magespawn: no | 14:30 |
magespawn | seems like a good program | 14:31 |
magespawn | i am off home see y'all later | 14:40 |
charlvn | good afternoon | 14:56 |
charlvn | how's things going | 14:56 |
charlvn | oooh nagios... good stuff | 14:56 |
Kilos | hi charlvn | 14:59 |
Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 15:00 |
* Maaz washes some mugs | 15:00 | |
Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 15:04 |
Kilos | Maaz, ty | 15:04 |
Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 15:04 |
Kilos | hi Mezenir | 16:11 |
Symmetria | lol sitting in my hotel room with my new puter :p | 16:11 |
Mezenir | hi kilos | 16:11 |
Mezenir | whats news | 16:11 |
Kilos | lekker Symmetria | 16:11 |
Symmetria | busy installing the goddamn onboard wifi drivers so I can get off 3G :p | 16:11 |
Kilos | got 12.04 to not break nm with update | 16:12 |
Symmetria | heh, god, is there anything they didnt put on this motherboard, usb3, wifi, bluetooth, infrared, optical sound output | 16:12 |
Symmetria | <3 this thing | 16:12 |
Kilos | Symmetria, where does it take all that ram | 16:12 |
Symmetria | it has 8 ram slots :p | 16:12 |
Symmetria | which are all full :) | 16:12 |
Kilos | wow | 16:12 |
Kilos | ddr3? or 4 | 16:13 |
Symmetria | http://www.gigabyte.co.za/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4049&dl=1#ov | 16:13 |
Symmetria | 64gig of ddr3, lol, but there are some interesting things about this board | 16:13 |
Symmetria | it has a button on the back marked "overclock" | 16:13 |
Symmetria | hit that button, and it overclocks everything automagically | 16:13 |
Symmetria | and because Im running closed system watercooler, it all keeps working | 16:13 |
liver | o/ hi oom Kilos | 16:13 |
Kilos | yo liver | 16:14 |
liver | o.O | 16:14 |
Kilos | wow | 16:14 |
=== liver is now known as nuvolari | ||
Kilos | lol | 16:14 |
Kilos | liver and onions and mash is lekker | 16:14 |
nuvolari | 8ta snailing tonight :( | 16:14 |
Kilos | i think they very busy nuvolari was fast yesterday | 16:15 |
Kilos | got 270m in 20mins | 16:15 |
Kilos | i think they are stealing lotsa peeps from voda and cellc | 16:16 |
Kilos | now growing to fast to meet the demand | 16:16 |
Symmetria | brb rebooting | 16:16 |
nuvolari | yeah | 16:17 |
nuvolari | but it might help if I was ON the coverage map as opposed to 'get lucky if I have' | 16:17 |
nuvolari | if I just had a little bigger antennae | 16:18 |
Kilos | hi inetpro | 16:26 |
nuvolari | oom Kilos, wanneer is die meeting? | 16:26 |
Kilos | 20 | 16:27 |
Kilos | i clean installed 4 times today | 16:27 |
Kilos | but now nm works here just dont wanna auto connect | 16:28 |
nuvolari | but why oom Kilos ? lol | 16:28 |
nuvolari | you shold know it like the palm of your hand by now | 16:28 |
nuvolari | *should | 16:28 |
Kilos | i had to stop nm from updating and kept making mistakes | 16:28 |
Kilos | had to install from cd with no connection and then when it said restart i connected nm and then rebooted | 16:31 |
Kilos | first thing i installed was synaptic and stopped nm from updating | 16:32 |
Kilos | then updated | 16:32 |
nuvolari | hmm | 16:34 |
nuvolari | I'm sure there had to be an easier way | 16:34 |
nuvolari | not? | 16:34 |
Kilos | ? | 16:36 |
Kilos | brb | 16:36 |
Kilos | wow no xchat | 16:43 |
Kilos | had to install again | 16:43 |
Kilos | 12.04 does funny things | 16:43 |
Kilos | whats an unlock password and where do i get it | 16:48 |
Kilos | Enter password to unlock your login keyring | 16:49 |
Symmetria | lol Im an idiot, there is a cable you need to install inside the machine for this wifi to work and I forgot to plug it in when I was building the machine and left it at the university where Im contracting right now :P will have to stick to 3G for the night and fix wifi tomorrow :p | 16:49 |
Kilos | lol | 16:49 |
nuvolari | hmm, dit is soos 'n universal password oom kilos | 16:50 |
Kilos | waar kry ek dit | 16:50 |
nuvolari | werk oom se gewone password nie op dit nie? | 16:50 |
Kilos | ek sukkel met die ubuntuone ding | 16:50 |
Kilos | nee | 16:50 |
nuvolari | ok, ek sal oom gou help | 16:51 |
nuvolari | hoop ek kan onthou | 16:51 |
Kilos | lol dankie | 16:51 |
nuvolari | launch 'seahorse' in 'n terminal | 16:51 |
nuvolari | dan gaan oom na file | 16:51 |
nuvolari | new | 16:51 |
nuvolari | of wag | 16:52 |
Kilos | ok ek sien passwords login daar | 16:52 |
nuvolari | daar kan dalk reeds een wees | 16:52 |
nuvolari | het hy baie items in oom Kilos ? | 16:52 |
Kilos | net die ene | 16:52 |
nuvolari | maar as oom die driehoekie expand? | 16:53 |
nuvolari | is daar niks binne-in nie? | 16:53 |
Kilos | daar is nie n driehoekie nie | 16:53 |
nuvolari | hmm okei | 16:54 |
nuvolari | okei, maak dan 'n nuwe een | 16:54 |
Kilos | net die een folder passwords:login | 16:54 |
nuvolari | of probeer eers daardie een se password verander | 16:54 |
Kilos | dis vir my pc se login is dit nie | 16:54 |
nuvolari | dit stoor al die passwords wat oom gebruik op die net | 16:56 |
Kilos | eish | 16:56 |
nuvolari | en oom het mos nou nuwe install gedoen | 16:56 |
nuvolari | so daar sal niks wees nie | 16:56 |
Kilos | ja | 16:56 |
nuvolari | so delete daai een, en maak 'n nuwe een | 16:57 |
nuvolari | file, new, password keyring | 16:57 |
magespawn | evening all | 16:58 |
nuvolari | hello magespawn | 16:59 |
Kilos | hi magespawn nuvolari dit vat lank en ek moet gaain eet | 16:59 |
Kilos | nou nou terug | 16:59 |
Kilos | skuus man | 16:59 |
magespawn | hey nuvolari Kilos | 16:59 |
nuvolari | :O sies oom | 16:59 |
nuvolari | ek gaan nou-nou 4de kabinet kyk | 16:59 |
Kilos | dit lyk nie of dit een kan oopmaak nie | 17:00 |
Kilos | wielitjie hou net aan draai | 17:00 |
Kilos | ok dis oop | 17:01 |
nuvolari | eh? dis nie supposed om lank te vat nie | 17:01 |
Kilos | dit het onder ander een gevra vir password | 17:01 |
nuvolari | myne was dadelik reg | 17:01 |
nuvolari | ja, nou oom moet daardie password onthou | 17:02 |
nuvolari | want hy sal weer daarvoor vra | 17:02 |
Kilos | dit was agter die ander venstertjie | 17:02 |
Squirm | hi | 17:02 |
nuvolari | dit is die keyring se password | 17:02 |
Kilos | is dit nou gedoen nuvolari ? | 17:02 |
nuvolari | oh hi Squirm | 17:02 |
nuvolari | Kilos: jip | 17:02 |
Kilos | ok dankie baie | 17:02 |
nuvolari | Kilos: is daar 1 of 2 | 17:02 |
nuvolari | ? | 17:02 |
Squirm | nuvolari: so when's the next visit? | 17:02 |
nuvolari | oom moet die ander en dan uitvee | 17:02 |
Kilos | een | 17:02 |
nuvolari | okei | 17:03 |
nuvolari | dan is dit five | 17:03 |
nuvolari | *fine | 17:03 |
Kilos | is dit reg nou? | 17:03 |
Kilos | yay dankie baie | 17:03 |
nuvolari | Squirm: dunno :-/ When I can ski :P | 17:03 |
nuvolari | looks like you had fun | 17:03 |
Squirm | when? | 17:03 |
nuvolari | saw facebook pics you posted | 17:04 |
Squirm | oh | 17:04 |
Squirm | that was end of last year | 17:04 |
nuvolari | oh :P | 17:04 |
Squirm | it's way too cold now :/ | 17:04 |
Squirm | nuvolari: we had 30cm of snow a week ago | 17:06 |
Squirm | theres still snow on the ground | 17:06 |
nuvolari | oh my word :-/ | 17:08 |
nuvolari | you must be freezing? | 17:08 |
Squirm | was | 17:08 |
Squirm | today was hot | 17:08 |
Squirm | it snowed a bit last Tuesday | 17:09 |
Squirm | school was cancelled cause of snow(just the fact it snowed and was fun to be in) | 17:09 |
Squirm | then it had melted by like 2pm | 17:09 |
Squirm | it snowed Tuesday night, from about 9pm to 7:30am | 17:09 |
Squirm | and school was cancelled due to the simple fact it wasn't possible to have | 17:09 |
Squirm | and electricity died. | 17:10 |
Squirm | ended up being cancelled till Sunday | 17:10 |
Squirm | they chaperoned the jo'burg and Durban kids back home | 17:10 |
nuvolari | geez | 17:10 |
Squirm | no electricity, means no water(pumps dont work) | 17:11 |
nuvolari | yeah, my one colleague went on a hiking trip in the Cape | 17:11 |
nuvolari | and they also had some troubles | 17:11 |
Squirm | so I ditched this place on Thursday. took 2.5hours to travel a normal 40min trip | 17:11 |
Squirm | power came back Friday evening | 17:11 |
magespawn | Squirm: where is that ? | 17:14 |
Squirm | magespawn: Mooi River | 17:14 |
magespawn | you at a school there? | 17:15 |
Squirm | magespawn: was, am now working here :P | 17:15 |
magespawn | just wierd did some work at Allans Butchery here in Hluhluwe, and their son was home from his school in mooiriver | 17:17 |
Squirm | I work at Treverton | 17:17 |
Squirm | all schools here would have been closed though | 17:17 |
Squirm | they must have been | 17:17 |
magespawn | think it was Treverton not sure though. | 17:18 |
Saffer69 | yebo yebo sipho sipho | 17:19 |
Kilos | hi Saffer69 | 17:19 |
Kilos | lol | 17:20 |
Squirm | lol | 17:20 |
Squirm | pwned | 17:20 |
Squirm | magespawn: how far is say Hluhluwe from Kokstad and Underberg? | 17:23 |
Squirm | ok, nevermind. I see Kokstad on the map. quite far | 17:24 |
Kilos | far | 17:25 |
Squirm | Kilos: where are you from again? | 17:25 |
Kilos | when before now in pta | 17:25 |
Kilos | pmb | 17:25 |
Kilos | and toti before that | 17:26 |
Squirm | cool | 17:26 |
Kilos | very cool here | 17:26 |
Kilos | freezing actually | 17:26 |
Squirm | lol | 17:26 |
Squirm | I was referring to the other places, not pta :P | 17:27 |
Kilos | lol | 17:27 |
Squirm | nuvolari: so you never answered my question properly | 17:30 |
Kilos | ** (seahorse:2772): CRITICAL **: seahorse_source_export_async: assertion `iface->export_async != NULL || iface->export_raw_async != NULL' failed | 17:31 |
Kilos | what does that mean | 17:31 |
Squirm | it failed | 17:31 |
Squirm | thought that might be obvious :/ | 17:31 |
magespawn | Hluhluwe is about 280 kms north of Durban. | 17:32 |
magespawn | Squirm: ^ | 17:32 |
Squirm | magespawn: I thought so | 17:32 |
Squirm | but then I google mapped it | 17:32 |
Squirm | I thought it was up by Empangeni | 17:32 |
Squirm | now that I actually zoom into where google is pointing me | 17:33 |
Squirm | it says the pharmacy is.. | 17:33 |
Squirm | well, quite literally in the middle of nowhere. no roads, just trees | 17:34 |
magespawn | I put my shop on google maps, G&C Net Hluhluwe, I think that is accurate | 17:35 |
Squirm | hmm | 17:38 |
Squirm | seems I have it | 17:38 |
Squirm | I was up there last in... | 17:38 |
Squirm | oh wow, April last year | 17:39 |
magespawn | cool | 17:41 |
magespawn | good place to be nice and warm | 17:41 |
Squirm | have a friend in Zinkwazi who I go up and see when I can. but that's not very often and still not as far up | 17:41 |
Kilos | magespawn, i got nm working | 18:00 |
Kilos | but no auto dail yet | 18:00 |
Kilos | auto connect | 18:00 |
Kilos | that blocking updates to it works | 18:01 |
smile | bye :p | 18:28 |
charlvn | good evening | 18:28 |
Kilos | hi charlvn | 18:28 |
Kilos | toods smile | 18:28 |
smile | thanks Kilos :) | 18:28 |
smile | charlvn: good evening, bye :) | 18:28 |
Kilos | sleep tight | 18:28 |
charlvn | ciao smile | 18:28 |
charlvn | hi Kilos | 18:28 |
smile | :) | 18:29 |
charlvn | so how's it going with you all? | 18:29 |
Kilos | not too bad ty and you? | 18:35 |
magespawn | coo Kilos | 18:43 |
magespawn | cool even | 18:43 |
Kilos | lol | 18:43 |
Kilos | just cant use apt-get update because nm is the first thing it wants to update | 18:44 |
magespawn | brb fish time. | 18:44 |
Kilos | k | 18:45 |
Kilos | hi psydroid | 19:00 |
Kilos | i think i mislead pankreas a bit yesterday | 19:00 |
Kilos | if he connects to net while installing he will get it updated same time | 19:01 |
Kilos | hi Banlam bakuman Kerbero | 19:01 |
Kilos | julle maar still ne | 19:01 |
Banlam | ons is maar besige studente :) | 19:01 |
Kerbero | indeed | 19:02 |
Kilos | mooi | 19:02 |
psydroid | hi Kilos | 19:03 |
psydroid | hi Banlam | 19:03 |
psydroid | hoi Kerbero | 19:03 |
Banlam | evening psy | 19:04 |
Kerbero | goedenavond | 19:04 |
magespawn | hey all back | 19:09 |
Kilos | wb | 19:09 |
Kilos | night guys. sleep tight | 19:13 |
magespawn | cheers Kilos | 19:13 |
magespawn | night all | 19:45 |
charlvn | nn | 20:01 |
* Squirm yawns | 20:44 | |
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=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za |
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