| === Tabstar is now known as Tabmow | ||
| === patrick is now known as Guest20926 | ||
| === kubuntu is now known as Guest52786 | ||
| jdrs | I see other kernel versions of modules in /lib/modules/. Should I keep all of them or just the module for my current kernel version? | 01:41 |
|---|---|---|
| Daskreech | jdrs: keep the libs/modules for the kernels you have installed | 02:15 |
| Daskreech | if one kernel screws up you can just load another one | 02:15 |
| jdrs | Okay, thanks. | 02:16 |
| jdrs | But, if I ever want to risk it, how do I remove them? just rm -rf? | 02:19 |
| Daskreech | uninstall the kernel they are based on | 02:22 |
| Daskreech | It will pull all the depends with it | 02:22 |
| jdrs | I did that. It left the modules in. | 02:22 |
| Daskreech | initramfs should clean it up on the next update then | 02:24 |
| jdrs | I've done that many times before, didn't clean it. But anyway, I guess I'll keep them for now. | 02:27 |
| jdrs | Thanks. | 02:28 |
| uglyoldbob | i am having a problem getting correct colors with the radon driver on my ati radeon hd 5770 (mythfrontend is the application i am using) | 02:35 |
| uglyoldbob | hmm well changing to opengl high quality solves that so nevermind | 02:37 |
| Daskreech | \o/ | 02:37 |
| Daskreech | Hi kubuntu! | 02:59 |
| === kubuntu is now known as Guest36777 | ||
| === Guest36777 is now known as Kuser | ||
| === ja227 is now known as Parkitect | ||
| === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech | ||
| pawan | java | 03:51 |
| pawan | how to installed java in kubuntu | 03:51 |
| Phiscribe | sun java or some free alt? | 03:51 |
| bazhang | !java | pawan have a read | 03:52 |
| ubottu | pawan have a read: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software Development Kit" (SDK). Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations. | 03:52 |
| Phiscribe | i guess now days i should say oracle java | 03:53 |
| jdrs | pawan: This is also a nice step by step guide on how to install oracle jdk http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ | 03:58 |
| analex | I swear I'm loving Kubuntu PP | 05:45 |
| DarthFrog | Your love will be requited. | 05:45 |
| analex | wel, I've been on and off kubuntu from Feisty Fawn, and it has evolved.... | 05:48 |
| DarthFrog | As have you. | 05:48 |
| DarthFrog | You sound like you're now where you need to be. | 05:48 |
| analex | I sure am... No Mor Windows on my laptop.... | 05:49 |
| analex | More* | 05:49 |
| analex | connectivity issues sorted out, was hell to connect to my wi-fi with feisty fawn | 05:50 |
| === euphoria is now known as ceradon-away | ||
| pawan | how to configure kubuntu for wireless lan | 06:02 |
| analex | which version of kubuntu are u using??? | 06:04 |
| Daskreech | hi linuxguy101 | 06:26 |
| linuxguy101 | hi | 06:27 |
| decci | Need help on http://pastebin.com/cqMTkg60 | 06:28 |
| === kubuntu is now known as Guest27154 | ||
| loppra | hi | 07:39 |
| loppra | I have a question what is the version of kde included in the live cd or cd | 07:40 |
| hateball | loppra: On 12.04? | 07:40 |
| loppra | yes on 12.04 | 07:40 |
| hateball | That would be 4.8 | 07:40 |
| loppra | oh and the kde 4.9 is avalible in updates or this is not stable sorry for my english | 07:42 |
| hateball | loppra: there is a backport, but it will be in 12.10 | 07:54 |
| hateball | loppra: so you can install 12.04 now, and do-release-upgrade once 12.10 is released | 07:55 |
| Mamarok | loppra: but the kubuntu backports PPA is shipping stable packages, so you can upgrade to 4.9 if you want to | 08:07 |
| Mamarok | the Kubuntu PPA are maintained by the Kubuntu developers | 08:07 |
| loppra | ok thanks hateball | 08:11 |
| === Riddelll is now known as Riddell | ||
| === elio_ is now known as elio__ | ||
| === Rajesh is now known as Guest99058 | ||
| === Guest99058 is now known as Rajesh_ | ||
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:42 |
| phil___ | Hi BluesKaj | 11:47 |
| starlook | Hi. here in Brazil 08:48 AM | 11:48 |
| starlook | i have a kubuntu 12.04 and want to install 12.10-alpha3 | 11:49 |
| starlook | can i to install 12.10 alpha3 without format the partition and with same user name.??? | 11:49 |
| starlook | i dont want to lost files | 11:50 |
| starlook | i dont want to lost home user folders | 11:50 |
| starlook | but, i want the news configurations of kde clean | 11:50 |
| starlook | it s possible? | 11:51 |
| hateball | starlook: you can "do-release-upgrade -d" to do an upgrade, which will keep all user data intact. But you would have to manually clean out your KDE config | 11:56 |
| hateball | I dont remember if there's some fancy command to clean it all out | 11:56 |
| starlook | the release-upgrade go to the alpha-3 version? | 11:57 |
| sagaci | starlook, as with upgrading to any release, make sure you backup and cross your fingers | 11:58 |
| starlook | hehehehe tks. i will to install with the new iso file in a CD | 11:59 |
| starlook | i have to correct any bugs.... my xrandr is in bug | 11:59 |
| hateball | Well that will overwrite your install | 11:59 |
| starlook | i will dont to format | 12:00 |
| starlook | my question is, if a have to trade the user name for the kde clean instalation or if a can to keep the same user name. | 12:00 |
| BluesKaj | hateball, why would he have to clean out KDE conf ig ? | 12:01 |
| hateball | BluesKaj: He wouldnt, but he asked | 12:01 |
| hateball | Assuming I understood it correctly | 12:02 |
| hateball | Sometimes you just want to go back to defaults I guess | 12:02 |
| BluesKaj | starlook, you could do an new install to / if you have a /home partition | 12:04 |
| === cryptfu_ is now known as Guest92411 | ||
| starlook | i dont have a /home in a separate partition, all files in a / partition. | 12:09 |
| starlook | i dont want to format the partition. | 12:09 |
| starlook | i will hope that the instalation overwrite the system files only | 12:09 |
| starlook | i will to create a new user name for the kde configuration to come clean | 12:10 |
| starlook | [sorry for the bad english] | 12:10 |
| BluesKaj | starlook, then do what hateball suggested | 12:13 |
| hateball | starlook: Do an online upgrade, otherwise you will lose your user-data if you don't have separate /home | 12:13 |
| starlook | all right | 12:14 |
| starlook | tks everybody | 12:14 |
| BluesKaj | starlook, good luck :) | 12:14 |
| starlook | in the last option... I can to perform a full backup of my files... and to install with the format / option enabled | 12:15 |
| starlook | all clean | 12:15 |
| starlook | :) | 12:15 |
| starlook | tks for the assistance | 12:15 |
| BluesKaj | 'morning , monkeyjuice | 12:23 |
| monkeyjuice | morning BluesKaj | 12:26 |
| monkeyjuice | nice day we get today | 12:26 |
| BluesKaj | cloudy and foggy here | 12:26 |
| monkeyjuice | hmmm clear here so its coming ;) | 12:27 |
| BluesKaj | well, I think you may get what we have later, it;s a large system | 12:29 |
| monkeyjuice | must be turning around then | 12:30 |
| BluesKaj | sorry , it's already passed you , monkeyjuice | 12:35 |
| BluesKaj | looking at the weather radar etc | 12:36 |
| monkeyjuice | looks like it coming a bit from the south to you .. | 12:36 |
| BluesKaj | riah here tomorrow for sure :( | 12:37 |
| BluesKaj | rain | 12:37 |
| monkeyjuice | well its a bit dry so i would take it | 12:38 |
| lordievader | Good afternoon channel, anyone here with experience in motd? | 13:03 |
| BluesKaj | hi lordievader , message of the day ? .. http://parkersamp.com/2010/10/howto-creating-a-dynamic-motd-in-linux/ | 13:14 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: Yes, it seems it isn't being generated on logon. | 13:14 |
| BluesKaj | where in the server text or the chat ? | 13:15 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: On my server box, it should generate it when I logon with ssh, but it refuses to do so. | 13:16 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: Might be onto something here though. | 13:18 |
| BluesKaj | oh lordievader , i thought you meant here in IRC | 13:18 |
| lordievader | Hmm perhaps it just needs a reboot... | 13:21 |
| antonio_starconi | Hi all, after a clean install of kubuntu 12.04 i can see only a black screen with the mouse pointer after the login process. On pressing Shift+Alt+F12 the desktop appears. | 13:25 |
| antonio_starconi | There is a way to fix this? | 13:26 |
| BluesKaj | antonio_starconi, does everything else seem ok , after the desktop appearing ? | 13:29 |
| antonio_starconi | yes | 13:29 |
| antonio_starconi | I have installed drivers, software and also partitions... everything seems going fine | 13:32 |
| BluesKaj | antonio_starconi, just a blank screen and cursor , but no prompt , correct? | 13:33 |
| antonio_starconi | correct, but if I press Ctrl+Esc the System Monitor try to appear but I see only the upper bar with title | 13:34 |
| antonio_starconi | sorry for my english | 13:35 |
| Kvaks | Any bash experts here? I want to quickly paste a script into a file and set it executable. What's wrong with the following: | 13:36 |
| Kvaks | pastescript () { cat << EOF >> $1 ; chmod +x $1;} | 13:36 |
| lordievader | Ah fixed it, needed to enable Pam in my sshd_config file. | 13:38 |
| BluesKaj | antonio_starconi, look in system in the kmenu , additional drivers , choose the recommended driver if there is a choice there , it will install the correct driver for your graphics setup | 13:40 |
| antonio_starconi | I have done this step, but it does not work | 13:41 |
| antonio_starconi | even with drivers when I reboot I get a black screen | 13:41 |
| === rudyismydog is now known as monkeyjuice | ||
| antonio_starconi | I have also installed xubuntu on a dedicated HD, all works well; then I have installed kde-desktop to try, but I got the same result | 13:44 |
| BluesKaj | antonio_starconi, do you have compiz installed ? | 13:46 |
| BluesKaj | antonio_starconi, and can you enable desktop effects in system settings ? | 13:48 |
| antonio_starconi | I must see, I have finished the installation half an hours ago | 13:49 |
| antonio_starconi | I can't use desktop effects, just tryed | 13:50 |
| BluesKaj | antonio_starconi, which graphics card do you have ? | 13:50 |
| antonio_starconi | Nvidia 5700 LE | 13:50 |
| antonio_starconi | my setup: amd athlon 2800+, 2 gb ram, Nvidia 5700LE 256Mb | 13:52 |
| BluesKaj | antonio_starconi, I'm thinking you might be better off with the default nouveau driver , since your nvidia card is fairly old | 13:54 |
| antonio_starconi | It is strange, the motherboard has a worst graphic card onboard and Kubuntu 11.04 runs well with effects | 13:56 |
| BluesKaj | antonio_starconi, look here , this will help , http://dragly.org/2012/05/04/installing-the-nvidia-driver-in-kubuntu-12-04/ | 13:57 |
| antonio_starconi | ok, thank you... I will have a look and I hope it works! | 13:58 |
| BluesKaj | antonio_starconi, pay close attention to the commands section of that page | 14:00 |
| antonio_starconi | there is something wrong? I am not expert.... | 14:01 |
| george | Hi. I was wandering if amaok 2.6 was already out for update (Kubuntu 12.04). So I went sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. Nothing. I went sudo apt-get upgrade amarok and nothing, and then sudo apt-get install amarok and nothing. But I got a message saying that amarok is set to manual install. Did I change anything? if so, how can I change it back? Thanks in advance. | 14:01 |
| BluesKaj | antonio_starconi, no the commands look correct to me ..it should work for you | 14:02 |
| antonio_starconi | ok, I'll try now | 14:03 |
| BluesKaj | george, if you tried to install amarok from the repos that should be sufficient , but if you're trying for a newer alpha or beta version then the amarok site should have a link to either a ppa , adeb file or a tar | 14:04 |
| george | BluesKaj: Amarok is the default audio player, so it was already installed. I have kubuntu-backports ppa, so, i was expecting to an automatic update, as always, but I'm afraid that running those commands and getting that message I actually messed it up. what do you say? | 14:06 |
| george | BluesKaj: amarok 2.6 was released two days ago. | 14:06 |
| lordievader | george: You need to backports ppa, then it should be available. | 14:07 |
| lordievader | george: See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Download:Kubuntu | 14:07 |
| george | lordievader: yes, i have kubuntu-backports ppa. | 14:07 |
| BluesKaj | george, did you run upgrade and dist-upgrade | 14:08 |
| lordievader | george: If you can't update to 2.6 I guess it the repo isn't updated yet, if you really want it you'll need to tar-ball. | 14:08 |
| george | BluesKaj: yes. | 14:08 |
| BluesKaj | george, the lordievader's post above is probly the case | 14:09 |
| BluesKaj | then' | 14:09 |
| george | lordievader: i'd rather wait, guess i was too impacient. | 14:09 |
| lordievader | george: I'm updating now to the backports, I'll let you know if I get 2.6 | 14:10 |
| george | BluesKaj: ok, but, yet, does the message saying that amarok is set to manually install means anything? Did I change anything? | 14:10 |
| george | lordievader: ok. | 14:10 |
| * BluesKaj still doesn't understand the appeal of amarok ..reminds me of wmp , tries to too much without asking , it's presumptuous that everyone wants playlists ..I hate playlists :) | 14:10 | |
| hateball | I havent used a local media player in years, since Spotify became linux native ;b | 14:11 |
| antonio_starconi | BluesKaj, now it works! Thank you very, very much! My hero! : ) | 14:19 |
| superluminal6 | how do I remove ark without removing kubuntu itself? | 14:24 |
| superluminal6 | I want file roller to take over | 14:24 |
| superluminal6 | in every way possible | 14:24 |
| === Rajesh is now known as Guest86229 | ||
| === Guest96486 is now known as Aranel | ||
| === Rajesh is now known as Guest35519 | ||
| markit | hi, what's the difference among "Muon software center" and "Muon software manager"? | 15:38 |
| === Rajesh is now known as Guest87497 | ||
| Riddell | kubuntu.org/news/amarok-26 | 15:56 |
| swex | can't compile amarok 2.6 | 15:59 |
| swex | make[2]: *** [lib/amarok_collection-mysqlecollection.so] Error 1 | 16:00 |
| szal | sounds like a question for #amarok | 16:00 |
| swex | szal, thx | 16:00 |
| jmbeck | markit: The software center groups things into applications. The manager is lower-level, and helps manage the packages that make up whole applications. | 16:22 |
| jmbeck | ... is how I understand it. | 16:22 |
| markit | jmbeck: mmm one seems KDE other "generic" | 16:22 |
| markit | don't understand this duplication | 16:23 |
| jmbeck | I think that's because "generic" is REALLY generic. As in, "I want the 64-bit version of yesterday's GPG package blah" | 16:24 |
| jmbeck | Instead of "Just install the version of GPG that has a KDE front end. Latest version please." | 16:24 |
| mortasoft | hola | 16:37 |
| mortasoft | hiiiiii | 16:38 |
| Pici | hi | 16:38 |
| mortasoft | i just installed kubuntu | 16:38 |
| mortasoft | can I install the ubuntu software center in kubuntu? | 16:41 |
| mortasoft | this Muon Softrware center is basic | 16:41 |
| jmbeck | mortasoft: Just out of curiousity, what do you mean by "basic"? | 16:45 |
| mortasoft | I cant see the current downloads | 16:46 |
| mortasoft | i cant cancel a download in queue | 16:46 |
| mortasoft | its too minimalist | 16:48 |
| jmbeck | ahh, I see. | 16:50 |
| jmbeck | Well, I think you can install the Ubuntu version, but I think the packages it shows are more geared toward Gnome. Not sure though. | 16:53 |
| vsrao | mortasoft: You can always use the Muon Package Manager. | 16:54 |
| mortasoft | ok ill try it! | 17:03 |
| mortasoft | Thanks | 17:03 |
| svt_raiden_ | hey guys | 17:09 |
| svt_raiden_ | anybody who has exeprience with puppet-enterprise? | 17:10 |
| BluesKaj | svt_raiden_, never heard of it | 17:10 |
| c2tarun | something happened to my ktorrent and menu items got gigantic. http://imagebin.org/224660 can anyone please tell me why and how to fix? | 17:12 |
| samfisher | hi. i have an ati video card on my notebook and using kubuntu 12.04 i cannot get the desktop effects. they work, but in slowmo | 17:59 |
| samfisher | dunno what drivers to use, i'm very frustrated | 17:59 |
| nuno_nunes | hi | 18:04 |
| === nuno_nunes is now known as Guest14460 | ||
| BluesKaj | samfisher, have you tried the recommended driver in kmenu>apps.system>additional drivers, if listed? | 18:17 |
| samfisher | BluesKaj: no, let me check | 18:17 |
| === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech | ||
| samfisher | BluesKaj: i donidon't have | 18:25 |
| markit | why firefox has a special installer in the menu? Isn't the same install it from command line or from Muon tool? | 18:26 |
| BluesKaj | samfisher, lspci | grep VGA , will tell us which graphics card you have . | 18:27 |
| BluesKaj | markit, why do you think , it's there for a purpose , use it :) | 18:28 |
| markit | BluesKaj: because I want to script the installation of a core set of programs, so I aptitude firefox, but since is has it's own installer, I'm wondering if I will miss something | 18:28 |
| markit | btw, firefox integration has never be back, correct? | 18:29 |
| BluesKaj | !aptitude | markit | 18:29 |
| ubottu | markit: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information. | 18:29 |
| markit | firefox-kde-support package I mean | 18:29 |
| aguitel | how configure iptables in kde ? | 18:31 |
| BluesKaj | !iptables | aguitel | 18:32 |
| ubottu | aguitel: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (GNOME) and Guarddog (KDE from Lucid onwards) also exist. | 18:32 |
| peter1_ | Abend | 18:33 |
| === rafa is now known as Guest45523 | ||
| aguitel | BluesKaj, thanks | 18:33 |
| peter1_ | zeigt mir skype nicht an woran jkann das liegen. | 18:34 |
| BluesKaj | !de | peter1_ | 18:35 |
| ubottu | peter1_: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! | 18:35 |
| BluesKaj | !de | peter1_ | 18:36 |
| BluesKaj | _: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! | 18:37 |
| trace42 | My system went black while I was AFK, I reebooted, now there is something wrong with XWindows video driver or the plasma desktop. The graphical login prompt loads fine and is responsive. But when I log in I get an empty screen. If I start something (firefox, konsole) from a text console it loads, but does not refresh in a timely manner (I see the refresh when it finally occures). The mouse cursor is responsive and hovering over windows decorations wor | 18:43 |
| === Lynoure_ is now known as Lynoure | ||
| === szal_ is now known as szal | ||
| === zloz_ is now known as zloz | ||
| pedahzur | Kubuntu, running KDE 4.9.0. Nvidia card that I know is running under OpenGL (glxinfo tells me "direct rendering: Yes"). However, when I try to enabled some desktop effects (Blur, Cover Switch, and Startup Feedback) it tells me they require OpenGL. Is this a dependency bug? | 19:02 |
| adminfacias | link-looker | 19:06 |
| pedahzur | adminfacias: Was that directed at me? | 19:07 |
| BluesKaj | pedahzur, do you have OpenGL chosen in desktop effects>advanced>composting type ? | 19:12 |
| pedahzur | BluesKaj: That's it! Thank you! | 19:13 |
| pedahzur | The "cannot enable" message should be ammended to included that little pointer. :) | 19:14 |
| pedahzur | Hmm...now to find the repo where that bit of code lives. :) | 19:15 |
| trace42 | What is the easiest (and safest) way to start with a clean desktop i kubuntu? I want to throw all my current settings (at least temporarily) out the door. | 19:20 |
| === benardjr is now known as jean_rb | ||
| OerHeks | trace42, make a second user. | 19:26 |
| trace42 | OerHeks: Sometimes the solution is simple. :-) Thanks. | 19:34 |
| trace42 | My desktop is "broken". So far I know it's not in the user settings and probably not the nvvidia driver (did a apt-get uninstall nvidia-current). Any pointers? | 19:36 |
| andrewx | just how much is broken in 12.04 ? | 19:43 |
| andrewx | Tried getting a url from terminal, and its truncated? why? | 19:43 |
| jaafar | sithlord48: you there? | 19:46 |
| * jaafar has new and strange information on his audio problem | 19:46 | |
| jaafar | create new user, switch to that user - no audio problems! | 19:47 |
| BluesKaj | trace42, did you install the recommended nvidia driver in jockey ? | 19:54 |
| BluesKaj | trace42, alt+f2 jockey | 19:56 |
| elimary | oi | 20:06 |
| === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech | ||
| Daskreech | markit: People wanted firefox to ship with Kubuntu but there isn't enough space on the CD | 20:19 |
| Daskreech | markit: so a small script was included instead | 20:20 |
| doctorpepper | hi guys ! | 20:23 |
| Daskreech | Hi! | 20:23 |
| doctorpepper | can anyone please help me , i am running 12.04 and i have some issue with the screen going blank eventhought i diseabled the screensaver | 20:24 |
| markit | Daskreech: oh, I see, thanks a lot | 20:28 |
| Daskreech | Maybe it's the monitor? | 20:28 |
| markit | Daskreech: do you have some info about the "lost" and "I miss a lot" firefox-kde-support? | 20:28 |
| markit | without it I have a lot of troubles in schools :( | 20:28 |
| markit | doctorpepper: power saving profiles? Go to system settings... energy... etc | 20:29 |
| doctorpepper | i doubt it since i just reinstalled kubuntu 12.04 a week ago and before the reinstallation i didnt have this issue | 20:29 |
| iharp | All my windows are messed up. The top and bottom borders of every window I open up are offset to the right by about an inch. | 20:30 |
| Daskreech | markit: that was done by someone who couldn't keep up with the accelerated changes that Mozilla put in place | 20:30 |
| iharp | It doesn't matter if its dolphin or firefox | 20:30 |
| doctorpepper | markit: all power saving profiles have the screensaver disabled | 20:30 |
| markit | Daskreech: but should be a trivial thing.. I mean, if I see a pdf link on the web page, when I click that link and I'm asked of download or open, I have "okular" set to open it | 20:32 |
| markit | if I donwload, go in the download manager window of firefox, right click and select "open", I'm asked "what program do you want to use?" | 20:32 |
| markit | and I can do $ which okular to find the path | 20:33 |
| markit | but a student/teacher/avrage user has no clue | 20:33 |
| markit | nor can select from a reasonable list of possible programs | 20:33 |
| Daskreech | markit: Right | 20:33 |
| markit | so they think that "linux sucks" or is simply broken | 20:33 |
| markit | I see a lot of discussions about GNU/linux be ready for the desktop... | 20:34 |
| markit | well, as far as I've experienced, are these simple but annoying things that drive people away | 20:34 |
| markit | so not having FF work fine with KDE is a sad thing for me... maybe the Very Rich Mozilla foundation should have a look | 20:35 |
| markit | and provide a "standard stable" way to fix it | 20:35 |
| Daskreech | markit: Don't think we haven't tried | 20:35 |
| markit | Daskreech: you a developer / packager / manteiner? | 20:35 |
| Daskreech | Linux is a side project for Mozilla. KDE is a subset of that so not very high on the list of things to conquer | 20:35 |
| Daskreech | However if someone would code it they would accept it | 20:36 |
| markit | mmm should be made a kickstart project for it then | 20:37 |
| markit | I know kde has rekonq, but we can't avoid FF | 20:38 |
| markit | Daskreech: I could have a look at the firefox-kde-support source, maybe was just a set of scripts | 20:39 |
| Daskreech | markit: Maybe | 20:39 |
| Daskreech | if you want you can mail the guy who was doing it before. Get some insight on the code and setup | 20:40 |
| markit | Daskreech: I'm reading that "A user named "sumski" on the Kubuntu forums is currently maintaining kmozillahelper for Precise." | 20:42 |
| markit | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kmozillahelper/+bug/949949 | 20:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 949949 in kmozillahelper (Ubuntu) "KDE support for firefox stopped working in 12.04" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:42 |
| markit | at the bottom | 20:42 |
| BluesKaj | markit, what about a different browser like chromium | 20:42 |
| BluesKaj | works well here with okular | 20:43 |
| markit | BluesKaj: I dislike Google goals and policy... they will make desktop work with "apps" and so we will be using proprietary programs only in a short time | 20:43 |
| markit | in windows Chrome does already this | 20:43 |
| markit | I dislike Canonical "market" either | 20:44 |
| markit | I want to keep my freedom, so I try to fight back as much as I can | 20:44 |
| Daskreech | markit: You might want to ask in #kubuntu-devel | 20:44 |
| markit | Daskreech: thanks | 20:44 |
| BluesKaj | it also renders some sites more quickly and accurately than FF, ..and i agree with you about google's invasive and almost predatory philosophy , but ina pinch , it works , markit | 20:45 |
| markit | I will tomorrow, right now I'm trying to do some KDE screencasts (in italian) to show basic settings and functionalities | 20:45 |
| === Guest1726 is now known as Sozo | ||
| markit | I've seen that people use their M$crap habbits and think KDE is not very good, but is just because they don't know how to use properly | 20:45 |
| markit | I want to fix it :) | 20:45 |
| BluesKaj | markit, , i like your attitude :) | 20:46 |
| markit | BluesKaj: I'm deploying in schools, I want to teach children the "right things", not the convenient ones | 20:46 |
| markit | BluesKaj: lol :) | 20:46 |
| BluesKaj | yes markit , accuracy rather than convenience is best in the long run | 20:47 |
| markit | btw, 12.04 italian translation is not complete i.e. in Dolphin, maybe I'm missing some localization packages? (installed from a live cd) | 20:48 |
| markit | I mean, dolphin has some items not translated | 20:48 |
| skreech_ | There was a site that you could check translation percentages | 20:53 |
| === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech | ||
| andrewx | aside from not being able to get a proper URL from command line, what else is broken in 12.04? | 21:01 |
| Daskreech | andrewx: hmm? | 21:01 |
| andrewx | Appears when I try copying a URL from terminal, it gets truncated, why? | 21:02 |
| andrewx | is there a article I can read about whats "broken" or "defective" in 12.04? | 21:02 |
| BluesKaj | andrewx, do you have an example ? | 21:03 |
| andrewx | create a text file or script, with http:// or other URLs. list that script in a console. try right-click to capture url. what happens? | 21:04 |
| andrewx | never was an issue 10.x LTS | 21:05 |
| andrewx | on a different subject... | 21:06 |
| andrewx | has anyone managed to get NASA 'eyes' JRE application to run properly in Kubuntu yet? apparently some applet was being written to Linux to help with that. | 21:06 |
| andrewx | eyes.nasa.gov or somesuch... connected with Curiosity telementry data/simulation | 21:07 |
| markit | mm wondering if ppa for backport of 4.9 has also the updated translations | 21:23 |
| gotwig | hey there | 21:28 |
| Daskreech | andrewx: It works here | 21:28 |
| Daskreech | Hi gotwig | 21:28 |
| gotwig | I think about switching to KDE.. | 21:29 |
| gotwig | I know this is the wrong channel ;D | 21:29 |
| Daskreech | gotwig: This would be the place actually | 21:29 |
| gotwig | so, I come from elementary/unity development | 21:29 |
| gotwig | and it justs sucks to have all these compiz/gtk restrictions :X | 21:29 |
| Daskreech | andrewx: what gets truncated? | 21:30 |
| gotwig | I hope to find a very advanced developer plattform | 21:30 |
| gotwig | :X | 21:30 |
| Daskreech | gotwig: qt is very good | 21:30 |
| gotwig | yeah I often heard that | 21:30 |
| gotwig | but for me unity/elementary is more *elementary* | 21:31 |
| Daskreech | Fine | 21:31 |
| gotwig | and I often had graphics problems in the past | 21:31 |
| gotwig | (1-2) years ago | 21:31 |
| gotwig | it was not soo smooth | 21:31 |
| gotwig | but nice that the window manager, kwm?, has e.g antialiased window corners ;P | 21:31 |
| Daskreech | It is :) | 21:32 |
| gotwig | soo | 21:33 |
| gotwig | even I am an ubuntu member, I think about leaving sometime ;P | 21:33 |
| gotwig | from all this hacky work | 21:33 |
| gotwig | e.g when I wanted to develop apps, there were SOO much choices, but no real ones | 21:34 |
| gotwig | ubuntu docs talk about pygtk which does not support python3 | 21:34 |
| gotwig | I just yesterday ported my app from python2 to python3 | 21:34 |
| Daskreech | right | 21:34 |
| gotwig | so it gets ubuntu 12.10 compatible without installing too many libs | 21:34 |
| gotwig | and vala is strange | 21:34 |
| gotwig | couse you dont work wit the real code | 21:35 |
| gotwig | you work with the code, that is a template for c code which gets compiled | 21:35 |
| gotwig | and than you run that c compiled code | 21:35 |
| gotwig | I heard, with new qt | 21:36 |
| gotwig | you work not just with c++ code | 21:36 |
| gotwig | but with xml stuff and such stuff? | 21:36 |
| Daskreech | You can yes | 21:37 |
| Daskreech | But you can ask about that in #qt if you like | 21:37 |
| gotwig | and for me | 21:37 |
| gotwig | it just is unbelievable | 21:37 |
| gotwig | that such a project can work with soo little man power | 21:37 |
| gotwig | ok we at the elementary project have far less people, but the kde infrastructure is just , I dont know :O | 21:38 |
| gotwig | look at ubuntu, nearly all people are users somehow.. | 21:38 |
| gotwig | and when I see the blueprints people work and work... | 21:38 |
| Daskreech | Little man power? It's owned by Nokia | 21:39 |
| Daskreech | But ok :-) | 21:39 |
| Daskreech | unless you mean KDE | 21:39 |
| Daskreech | but then KDE is bigger than Qt | 21:39 |
| gotwig | its still | 21:39 |
| gotwig | very little | 21:39 |
| gotwig | compared to GNOME/Ubuntu devs | 21:39 |
| gotwig | and Nokia is giving up KDE | 21:40 |
| Daskreech | Nokia didn't deal with KDE that much | 21:45 |
| Daskreech | and I thikn you overestimate the number of devs on Ubuntu :) | 21:45 |
| Daskreech | in any case You had questions? | 21:46 |
| gotwig | :-) | 21:46 |
| gotwig | When I start with KDE, I have to develop an app.. | 21:46 |
| gotwig | but kde already has all it needs xD | 21:46 |
| gotwig | maybe a cook program :O? | 21:51 |
| gotwig | I am good at such stuff | 21:51 |
| gotwig | *recipe manager | 21:52 |
| gotwig | http://www.kde.org/applications/utilities/krecipes/ damn xD | 21:52 |
| Daskreech | Yeah I'm supposed to be submitting some code to that soon XD | 21:53 |
| Daskreech | gotwig: If you like that would be a nice program to help out with | 21:53 |
| gotwig | such stuff is always outdated | 21:53 |
| gotwig | lol | 21:53 |
| gotwig | ;P | 21:53 |
| gotwig | I believe | 21:53 |
| Daskreech | There are lots of applications that could be made but really it depends on what you are interested in | 21:54 |
| Daskreech | gotwig: well it pulls info from the USDA so that's up todate | 21:54 |
| gotwig | too bad the elementary project does not choose QT as base.. | 21:54 |
| gotwig | are there blueprints to simplify kDE? | 21:55 |
| Daskreech | but I want to add a module to share recipes amongst people | 21:55 |
| gotwig | cool | 21:55 |
| Daskreech | gotwig: Simplify ? | 21:55 |
| gotwig | yeah so it looks nicer | 21:55 |
| gotwig | with a friendly face, people call it eye candy | 21:55 |
| Daskreech | I.. guess? | 21:55 |
| === klugier is now known as klug__ | ||
| gotwig | I havent installed it yet | 21:56 |
| gotwig | ;D | 21:56 |
| gotwig | I have to checkout the last version | 21:56 |
| gotwig | oh already finished | 21:56 |
| Daskreech | tada | 21:56 |
| gotwig | 10 minutes is not bad lol | 21:56 |
| gotwig | 12.10 | 21:56 |
| gotwig | ;P | 21:56 |
| gotwig | see ya | 21:56 |
| gotwig | in a blue world ^^ | 21:56 |
| FloodBotK1 | gotwig: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. | 21:57 |
| gotwig | .. | 21:57 |
| gotwig_ | jo | 22:01 |
| gotwig_ | that was easy, one click | 22:01 |
| Daskreech | gotwig_: tada! | 22:04 |
| Daskreech | WElcome to KDE | 22:04 |
| gotwig_ | ok | 22:09 |
| gotwig_ | it still reacts a bit *slow* xDimho | 22:09 |
| gotwig_ | ah, it has problems with my usb sound playback thing.. | 22:11 |
| gotwig | there are things that really dont make sense. | 22:15 |
| gotwig | :X | 22:15 |
| gotwig | when I relog it applies my usb audio | 22:15 |
| gotwig | but I change volume with keyboard keys on HDMI audio? | 22:16 |
| gotwig | sense? | 22:16 |
| gotwig | amarok is awsom.. | 22:18 |
| Daskreech | :) | 22:21 |
| Daskreech | It's pretty good | 22:21 |
| gotwig | rhythmbox is nothing compared to it | 22:27 |
| gotwig | ah | 22:32 |
| gotwig | how can I use jamendo in amarok | 22:32 |
| gotwig | ah I understand | 22:33 |
| Daskreech | It's under internet | 22:34 |
| gotwig | awsom, amarok just crashed | 22:36 |
| gotwig | :O | 22:36 |
| gotwig | :( | 22:36 |
| Daskreech | tada!! | 22:36 |
| gotwig | why is kde so slow ;P? | 22:37 |
| gotwig | but also smooth.. | 22:37 |
| gotwig | DAMN, I DONT CARE ABOUT HDMI AUDIO :( | 22:38 |
| gotwig | I've gotta help out somehow.. | 22:39 |
| gotwig | hm | 22:39 |
| gotwig | I am gonna translating that thing | 22:40 |
| Daskreech | Ok jump on the translation mailing list | 22:40 |
| gotwig | I heard that no longer translations of kubuntu are necesarry | 22:41 |
| gotwig | just for special case like installer | 22:41 |
| gotwig | but not for e.g amarok | 22:41 |
| gotwig | it works now directly over kde? | 22:41 |
| === Axlin_ is now known as Axlin | ||
| Daskreech | gotwig: Not sure I understand? | 23:02 |
| gotwig | Daskreech: where shall I translate? | 23:02 |
| Daskreech | Kubuntu uses KDE's translations unless something is Kubuntu specific but there are very few such items | 23:02 |
| Daskreech | gotwig: Ask in #kubuntu-devel | 23:03 |
| Daskreech | nice people there ;) | 23:03 |
| === ceradon-away is now known as euphoria | ||
| gotwig | Daskreech: thanks for your help | 23:29 |
| gotwig | Daskreech: nighty ;P | 23:29 |
| Daskreech | night | 23:30 |
| === fishwithapipe is now known as f|shy | ||
| === Axlin_ is now known as Axlin | ||
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!