| lifeless | benji: please don't land that python-pgbouncer branch. | 00:33 |
|---|---|---|
| lifeless | benji: until the question I raise in the review is resolved. | 00:33 |
| lifeless | benji: pinging here incase you didn't see the email is all. | 00:36 |
| NCommander | WHere did launchpad-buildd move to? Its no longer under lib/canonical/buildd nor can I find it in the source tree | 00:51 |
| StevenK | It was split out | 00:57 |
| NCommander | lp:launchpad-buildd | 00:57 |
| NCommander | Found it, thanks | 00:57 |
| StevenK | NCommander: lib/canonical is also emptyish too | 00:58 |
| * NCommander notes the wiki pages really could use an update | 00:58 | |
| StevenK | That was known. | 00:58 |
| NCommander | StevenK: so for doing livecd builds on the buildds, I already determined we need a new custom livecd type (raw-livecd). My current idea is to have the CD build infrastructure connected to a devirtualized PPA, and it merely needs to dput a dummy package to spin the livefs's. Does this sound sane? (alternatively, I can have it work in the main archive, but then we have to deal with releasing live images through the queue which will be k | 01:16 |
| StevenK | You got cut off | 01:16 |
| NCommander | 21:16:02 < NCommander> StevenK: so for doing livecd builds on the buildds, I already determined we need a new custom livecd type (raw-livecd). My current idea is to have the CD build infrastructure connected to a devirtualized PPA, and it merely needs to dput a dummy package to spin the livefs's. Does this sound sane? (alternatively, I can have it work in the main archive, but then we have to | 01:16 |
| NCommander | dall with releasing live images through the queue which will be kinda annoying) | 01:16 |
| NCommander | alternatively, I could write a new API to the buildds to build the squashfs's indpendently, but that sounds like a *lot* more pain than its worth. | 01:17 |
| StevenK | NCommander: So, I'm not sure. | 01:17 |
| lifeless | NCommander: doing a dummy package to trigger builds is fugly and unneeded. | 01:18 |
| lifeless | NCommander: where will the [d]debs for the livecd come from ? | 01:18 |
| StevenK | ftpmaster.internal, I guess | 01:18 |
| NCommander | lifeless: ftpmaster.internal. I already managed to spin a squashfs in a PPA | 01:18 |
| lifeless | ok | 01:18 |
| lifeless | so, there are already 3 sorts of builds | 01:19 |
| NCommander | (I needed a helper package so I could run livecd.sh as sudo, but other than that, no headaches (right up until I hosed the uploader :-)) | 01:19 |
| lifeless | recipes, translations, packages | 01:19 |
| lifeless | add a forth type | 01:19 |
| NCommander | recipes? | 01:19 |
| lifeless | recipes run on the buildds | 01:19 |
| NCommander | is this documented somewhere? :-) | 01:19 |
| StevenK | It's probably under buildmaster | 01:20 |
| StevenK | lib/lp/buildmaster, that is | 01:20 |
| NCommander | Actually most of it is in launchpad-buildd :-/ | 01:21 |
| StevenK | NCommander: buildd-manager needs to know about the types of build at least | 01:22 |
| NCommander | (and at least for TRANSLATIONTEMPLATES its in lp/translations; this code is all over the $#!@# place) | 01:22 |
| NCommander | Yeah, ther'es a enum.py which is usually the first place you go so your test cases don't explode with unknown identifer | 01:22 |
| StevenK | SPRecipe is probably in lib/lp/code too | 01:22 |
| StevenK | I've forgotten its identifier | 01:23 |
| * NCommander feels like he's about to be in a lot of pain | 01:23 | |
| StevenK | Well, duh | 01:23 |
| StevenK | Doing CD builds *properly* via LP is a lot of work. | 01:23 |
| StevenK | And you have LoC constraints | 01:23 |
| NCommander | LoC? | 01:24 |
| StevenK | Lines of Code | 01:24 |
| NCommander | lines of code? | 01:24 |
| * NCommander looks at the wiki | 01:24 | |
| StevenK | NCommander: New features now have to be LoC neutral | 01:24 |
| NCommander | WTF? | 01:24 |
| NCommander | what does LoC neutral mean? | 01:25 |
| StevenK | NCommander: If you want to add 500 lines of feature code, you have to find 500 lines of something to remove first. | 01:25 |
| NCommander | ... | 01:25 |
| NCommander | rm -r lp-branches/devel/lib/lp/soyuz/tests :-P | 01:26 |
| StevenK | Hah | 01:27 |
| StevenK | NCommander: We have a tool that cjwatson wrote. For example: | 01:27 |
| StevenK | steven@undermined:~/launchpad/lp-branches/devel% loc-contributions 'Steve Kowalik' | 01:27 |
| StevenK | -835 | 01:27 |
| lifeless | You can get LoC waivers if appropriate | 01:27 |
| NCommander | so, let me get this straight. To successfully commit code to Launchpad, I need to step back and delete something else? | 01:28 |
| StevenK | Or you get an exception from lifeless. | 01:28 |
| NCommander | I rather just modify ubuntu-cdimage to build a deb in a PPA and then wget the deb. a *lot* less pain | 01:28 |
| lifeless | or in some other way offset the increased cost of running and maintaining launchpad that the new code brings. | 01:28 |
| NCommander | lifeless: adding one machine of every architecture to the buildd pool increasing relaibility and decreasing live image build time? | 01:29 |
| NCommander | (the livecd builders can be decommisioned and turned into regular buildds if we don't need dedicated machines) | 01:29 |
| lifeless | StevenK: flacoste hands out exceptions too IIRC> | 01:29 |
| lifeless | NCommander: as afraction, how much is the increase there? | 01:29 |
| lifeless | NCommander: how does it decrease live image build time ? | 01:30 |
| NCommander | lifeless: allows parallization of images across flavors, load balancing, and decreases issues if a buildd machine needs to go offline for service | 01:30 |
| NCommander | As it stands, we can build one flavor across all architectures at any given time (ARM has two livebuilders with a rather nasty hack to use both) | 01:31 |
| lifeless | whats the utilisation % of the current livebuilders ? | 01:31 |
| NCommander | 6-8 hours per day on dailies. Can go up to 100% during freezes if large amounts of respins are required | 01:32 |
| NCommander | Spread across 6(?) machines, one per arch one an additional one for armhf | 01:32 |
| lifeless | how many machines are there in the current buildd pools ? | 01:32 |
| StevenK | For LP, or livebuilds? | 01:32 |
| NCommander | two minimium per architecture (I believe we're down a hppa builder, I'll check) | 01:32 |
| lifeless | LP | 01:32 |
| * NCommander checks the current numbers) | 01:32 | |
| StevenK | hppa is dead to us | 01:33 |
| lifeless | Will Ubuntu want move flavors or more liveimage builds once the latency is reduced ? | 01:33 |
| lifeless | StevenK: don't tell lamont | 01:33 |
| NCommander | lifeless: that is a discussion the tech board must make. Currently we're allowing new live images on all archs aside from ARM | 01:33 |
| NCommander | (the ARM builders barely keep up with the load as is) | 01:33 |
| StevenK | 5 i386, 3 powerpc, 3 amd64, 2 ia64, 2 sparc, 1 hppa, 1 lpia and 12 armel, 7 armhf | 01:34 |
| StevenK | Hell, lpia is more dead to us than hppa | 01:34 |
| NCommander | ARGH, BAD MEMORIES | 01:34 |
| StevenK | NCommander: Worse for me | 01:34 |
| NCommander | StevenK: well yes but lpia wasn't as bad as psb | 01:35 |
| StevenK | Don't use that language with me. | 01:35 |
| NCommander | >;-) | 01:35 |
| StevenK | Crown Beach is so toally dead to me. | 01:35 |
| StevenK | *totally | 01:35 |
| NCommander | StevenK: I recommend high explosives personally. Helps get rid of the burn | 01:36 |
| lifeless | Ok, so we're looking at 16 hours more build time/day across the board | 01:36 |
| lifeless | which is 15% or so on i386, 20% on amd64 | 01:36 |
| NCommander | lifeless: offset by the fact that every architecture will almsot certianly get an additional buildd (once the livebuild pool is decommissioned) | 01:36 |
| lifeless | NCommander: that *is* the additional buildd | 01:36 |
| lifeless | NCommander: 24-8 = 16 | 01:36 |
| NCommander | d'oh | 01:37 |
| lifeless | this will make it easier to argue for more scalable capacity too perhaps. | 01:37 |
| lifeless | I'm inclined to grant an exception with a caveat: Please *try*, after the project, to reduce LoC impact. | 01:38 |
| lifeless | but if you can't, that will be ok. | 01:38 |
| NCommander | lifeless: I will, but I'm a heavy commenter | 01:38 |
| NCommander | SO as long as its only code I need to elimate, I will try | 01:38 |
| lifeless | NCommander: cjwatson is at about -4K lines. | 01:38 |
| StevenK | NCommander: refactoring tests is a big win | 01:38 |
| lifeless | NCommander: there is a huge amount of FAT in the LP code base. | 01:38 |
| NCommander | StevenK: personally, I'd like to add more tests to Soyuz | 01:39 |
| * NCommander sucks | 01:39 | |
| NCommander | *ducks | 01:39 |
| NCommander | fuck | 01:39 |
| StevenK | Hahaha | 01:39 |
| lifeless | NCommander: lots and lots and lots of places that things are redundant, or wasteful. | 01:39 |
| * StevenK quotefiles NCommander | 01:39 | |
| NCommander | lifeless: personally, I'd love to see LP not use 300+ queries to upload a package, but that's just me | 01:39 |
| lifeless | NCommander: see above under fat. | 01:39 |
| NCommander | yeah | 01:40 |
| NCommander | Thanks for the LoC exception. | 01:40 |
| StevenK | NCommander: From our OOPS reports, statement counts: 1350 OOPS-1db714aef8b3b55ac9a7a58cc336ebc4 BugTask:+index | 01:40 |
| NCommander | Ow | 01:40 |
| * NCommander notes he uses launchpad as proof that postgresql will scale just as well as oracle | 01:41 | |
| StevenK | 1054 OOPS-861cfa9611c5fbb82f3b97998ea1dcf1 Archive:+copy-packages | 01:41 |
| StevenK | But Colin is working on that one | 01:41 |
| StevenK | 10000 OOPS-bfc5975ff6ecfe11483e9b28b0f772bf Unknown | 01:41 |
| * StevenK blinks | 01:41 | |
| * StevenK looks up that OOPS | 01:41 | |
| lifeless | NCommander: so strictly, we don't insist on before-landing-credit, just that folk keep themselves honest and work on overall shrinking the maintenance burden. | 01:41 |
| NCommander | StevenK: why do I feel like that OOPS hit some sorta query limiter | 01:42 |
| lifeless | NCommander: what I'm saying to you is I accept the argument that the project is itself a burden reduction, but you should still try to address code fat as you do stuff :) | 01:42 |
| StevenK | We don't have a query limiter | 01:42 |
| NCommander | lifeless: I may submit mini-branches on the side to delete cruft on the side | 01:42 |
| NCommander | That's an oddly round number then | 01:42 |
| StevenK | Right | 01:43 |
| StevenK | I'm loading the oops | 01:43 |
| StevenK | Well, trying to | 01:43 |
| * StevenK prods neem | 01:43 | |
| lifeless | it will take a little | 01:43 |
| lifeless | 10K backtraces. | 01:43 |
| * NCommander will see StevenK at UDS still waiting :-) | 01:43 | |
| StevenK | NCommander: I wish | 01:43 |
| lifeless | NCommander: for instance: | 01:45 |
| lifeless | https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/uefi-ppa-no-unapproved/+merge/119542 | 01:45 |
| StevenK | steven@undermined:~/launchpad/lp-branches/force-ibug-into-line% bzr di -r 14918.. | diffstat -s | 01:45 |
| StevenK | 14 files changed, 519 insertions(+), 753 deletions(-) | 01:45 |
| lifeless | NCommander: -5 LoC, clearer tests, and bug fix. | 01:45 |
| StevenK | That's one of mine. I fixed IBug so it no longer read like a bad romance novel and made the ZCML clearer. | 01:46 |
| StevenK | HAhaha | 01:47 |
| StevenK | lifeless: Just got a ISE from neem | 01:47 |
| lifeless | \o/ | 01:47 |
| StevenK | "Please contact the server administrator, [no address given]" | 01:48 |
| StevenK | Hah, and the error log is useless | 01:50 |
| StevenK | Thanks for being so helpful, WSGI | 01:50 |
| lifeless | StevenK: it should have oopsed | 01:50 |
| lifeless | StevenK: it may still be processing though. | 01:51 |
| StevenK | I have no idea, I got a generic ISE page | 01:51 |
| StevenK | The error log just says "Premature end of script headers" | 01:51 |
| lifeless | yay. Not. | 01:54 |
| StevenK | lifeless: So, I guess it didn't OOPS? | 01:55 |
| lifeless | I guess not. | 01:55 |
| lifeless | the oops occurs when the thing propofates up | 01:55 |
| lifeless | no script headers means the app didn't send any before apache flicked it off | 01:55 |
| StevenK | wgrant: Can haz review? https://code.launchpad.net/~stevenk/launchpad/no-oops-request-daily-build/+merge/119654 | 01:56 |
| wgrant | StevenK: Busy now, sorry. | 01:58 |
| wgrant | Possibly this afternoon | 01:58 |
| StevenK | lifeless: Why more OOPS summaries? | 02:33 |
| lifeless | StevenK: Why indeed? | 02:34 |
| lifeless | StevenK: I have nil idea. | 02:34 |
| lifeless | Ask -ops | 02:34 |
| StevenK | wgrant: Are you unbusy now? | 03:50 |
| wgrant | StevenK: Not really | 03:51 |
| StevenK | :-( | 03:51 |
| wgrant | Busy benchmarking paranoia | 03:52 |
| StevenK | lifeless: AH, come here | 04:23 |
| lifeless | StevenK: ? | 04:37 |
| StevenK | lifeless: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1148122/ | 04:39 |
| StevenK | lifeless: Not sure why mailman is there, given lib/mailman. | 04:40 |
| StevenK | lifeless: But the main reason I grabbed you is because the last time I tried to rip subvertpy out of sourcecode, things went bang. | 04:41 |
| lifeless | trlololol https://plus.google.com/109613336078485786201/posts/1mC8Wm37W2g | 04:45 |
| lifeless | oh sorry. right. | 04:45 |
| wgrant | StevenK: lib/mailman is built code | 04:45 |
| wgrant | StevenK: (yes, our build system writes into lib/) | 04:45 |
| lifeless | StevenK: you can't remove mailman like that. | 04:45 |
| lifeless | StevenK: :( | 04:45 |
| lifeless | StevenK: but testresources should be fine. | 04:46 |
| StevenK | lifeless: So I put subvertpy into download-cache, add it into versions.cfg, remove it from sourcedeps.conf, and make, and then nothing can import subvertpy | 04:49 |
| lifeless | What steps have you taken t debug this ? | 04:49 |
| StevenK | None, because I'm not sure what steps to take. | 04:49 |
| lifeless | ok | 04:50 |
| lifeless | so when something can't be imported | 04:50 |
| lifeless | it may mean its not on the python path | 04:50 |
| lifeless | or it may mean that something is broken in the thing | 04:50 |
| lifeless | is there an egg? | 04:50 |
| StevenK | It's a tarball | 04:50 |
| lifeless | is the egg on the path when you look at sys.path under bin/py ? | 04:50 |
| lifeless | StevenK: tarball is whats distributed. | 04:50 |
| lifeless | eggs are what live in eggs/ | 04:51 |
| StevenK | eggs/subvertpy-0.8.10-py2.7-linux-x86_64.egg exists | 04:51 |
| StevenK | Oh, wait, that's the old one | 04:51 |
| StevenK | So, no, no egg | 04:51 |
| lifeless | well | 04:51 |
| lifeless | tried running bin/buildout ? | 04:51 |
| StevenK | make clean && make should do that, no? | 04:51 |
| lifeless | have you removed lib/subvertpy ? | 04:52 |
| StevenK | I didn't know that was there. Sob. | 04:52 |
| lifeless | I note your pastebin is missing the remove of lib/testresources | 04:52 |
| StevenK | Right | 04:52 |
| StevenK | I'll do that too | 04:52 |
| lifeless | (this is why removing sourcedeps is such a great idea :)) | 04:52 |
| StevenK | I noticed mustache quietly died from sourcedeps | 04:53 |
| lifeless | I nuked. | 04:53 |
| lifeless | I think. | 04:53 |
| lifeless | Therefore I delete. | 04:53 |
| wgrant | Well | 04:53 |
| wgrant | Um | 04:53 |
| wgrant | It was better in sourcedeps than where it is now :) | 04:53 |
| StevenK | lifeless: Deleted lib/subvertpy and no dice. Still no egg | 04:54 |
| lifeless | no, it was rick that did it. | 04:54 |
| lifeless | StevenK: ok, and you ran bin/buildout ? | 04:54 |
| lifeless | StevenK: (don't answer by talking about make :)) | 04:55 |
| lifeless | StevenK: does 'python -c "import subvertpy"' work for you ? | 04:55 |
| StevenK | Just ran bin/buildout and still no egg | 04:55 |
| lifeless | StevenK: ok, and is subvertpy listed in setup.py ? | 04:55 |
| wgrant | StevenK: Did you define it as a dep? | 04:56 |
| wgrant | Yaeh | 04:56 |
| wgrant | in setup.py | 04:56 |
| StevenK | Ah | 04:56 |
| StevenK | Let me do that | 04:56 |
| lifeless | Now, you may say 'why?' and thats a good question. But until we get the *bzr deps* into setup.py, buildout won't traverse through them to find subvertpy. | 04:56 |
| StevenK | lifeless: Right, so indeed, putting it in setup.py was the answer. | 04:58 |
| lifeless | cool. | 04:58 |
| lifeless | I would add a comment explaining why. | 04:58 |
| StevenK | But this branch is at -3/+3 :-( | 04:59 |
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| adeuring | good morning | 07:41 |
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| NCommander | How do I get a local LP instance to accept a 3.0 (quilt) source package? | 08:14 |
| StevenK | There's a table | 08:20 |
| StevenK | NCommander: Have a look for InitializeDistroSeries, it copies stuff into a table that ends with or contains 'Format' | 08:21 |
| * NCommander just patched soyuz-sampledata-setupo to give me a precise | 08:22 | |
| wgrant | Hm, didn't I already fix that? | 08:22 |
| NCommander | You go natty->oneiric and forgot precise | 08:22 |
| wgrant | Apparently not | 08:22 |
| wgrant | Well | 08:22 |
| wgrant | I have onerous :) | 08:22 |
| wgrant | From before the name was announced | 08:22 |
| wgrant | So I haven't updated it in a while. | 08:22 |
| wgrant | ('Onerous Ocelot', SeriesStatus.FUTURE, '11.10'), | 08:22 |
| * NCommander remembers how much 'fun' it is to setup LP from scratch | 08:27 | |
| StevenK | NCommander: Impossible. The brain suppresses bad memories, which is exactly what we are counting on. | 08:29 |
| * NCommander misses dak sometimes | 08:31 | |
| NCommander | s/sometimes/g | 08:31 |
| NCommander | seems soyuz dev really wants a SMTP server setup | 08:34 |
| NCommander | File "/usr/lib/python2.7/smtplib.py", line 284, in _get_socket | 08:34 |
| NCommander | return socket.create_connection((port, host), timeout) | 08:34 |
| NCommander | File "/usr/lib/python2.7/socket.py", line 571, in create_connection | 08:34 |
| NCommander | raise err | 08:34 |
| NCommander | error: [Errno 111] Connection refused | 08:34 |
| StevenK | I get the same issue, ignore it | 08:34 |
| NCommander | StevenK: then my GPG key doesn't import | 08:35 |
| StevenK | Are you using utilities/make-lp-user? | 08:35 |
| NCommander | documentation for soyuz sampledata says it should add my key to ppa-user | 08:36 |
| NCommander | It imports my SSH key just fine | 08:36 |
| NCommander | there | 08:37 |
| * NCommander does a test build | 08:40 | |
| * NCommander discovers Launchpad rejects uploads to security if the archive is in DEVELOPMENT, and goes to modify the changelog to try again | 08:42 | |
| * NCommander groans | 08:46 | |
| NCommander | deb http://archive.launchpad.dev/ubuntu precise main | 08:46 |
| NCommander | What do I need to fix that? :-/ | 08:46 |
| NCommander | nm found the magic UI page with the value I had to change | 08:47 |
| * NCommander has the basic framework in launchpad-buildd to build live images, and is just making sure he didn't break the world when I wasn't looking | 08:49 | |
| StevenK | NCommander: I do wonder how you're going to implement for-project | 08:58 |
| NCommander | StevenK: flavor argument passed into the xmlrpc for launchpad-buildd | 09:02 |
| * NCommander already has that done and working | 09:02 | |
| StevenK | I meant inside LP | 09:03 |
| NCommander | StevenK: new API in all likelyhood controlled by a celeberity | 09:04 |
| StevenK | Ew, celebrity | 09:04 |
| NCommander | StevenK: I wanted to use dummy packages, much easier :-P | 09:04 |
| StevenK | NCommander: And then Colin will drive to your house and stab you. | 09:06 |
| NCommander | But basic design idea I had with ubuntu-cdimage uses launchpadlib to tell LP to kick a build for a given architecture/flavor/series/etc, get the librarian URL for the image file when done, wget it, continue as normal | 09:07 |
| * NCommander *loves* we have three different livefs image builders | 09:07 | |
| NCommander | live-build/livecd.sh/ubuntu-defaults-image | 09:07 |
| NCommander | here's what the arguments look like for a LiveImage build: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1148377/ | 09:08 |
| NCommander | StevenK: if celeberities are bad, what should I key squashfs's builds off of? We don't want people willy-nilly being able to smack to respin API | 09:09 |
| * NCommander could connect it to the distro driver (~ubuntu-drives) | 09:11 | |
| NCommander | *drivers | 09:11 |
| StevenK | Probably ~ubuntu-cdimage in the short term | 09:11 |
| NCommander | I was personally thinking ubuntu-release | 09:12 |
| NCommander | or a new team, since I though hardcoding ubuntu stuff in LP was a bad thing | 09:12 |
| NCommander | though then again, ubuntu itself is a Celebrity ... | 09:13 |
| lifeless | wgrant: busy? | 09:41 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Hi | 10:06 |
| lifeless | hi | 10:06 |
| wgrant | lifeless: You pinged? | 10:10 |
| lifeless | I did | 10:11 |
| lifeless | cgoldbergs thing; I'm interviewing folk for 3 of the 4 hours I'm working tomorrow - half day | 10:11 |
| lifeless | I'd really like it to get a paranoid once over. | 10:11 |
| wgrant | Ah. I might look tomorrow, if you're busy | 10:11 |
| lifeless | I'm running in place. | 10:12 |
| lifeless | (yes, am busy, or wouldn't be asking) | 10:12 |
| wgrant | k | 10:14 |
| NCommander | wgrant: StevenK what dispatches things like TranslationTemplate builds? | 10:23 |
| lifeless | builddmaster | 10:24 |
| * NCommander has a fairly decent grasp on how jobs go from LP->slaves now, but isn't quite sure what triggers the jobs (aka, how we geting */model/*buildbehavior.py) | 10:24 | |
| lifeless | NCommander: not sure why you talk about a celebrity above. | 10:24 |
| lifeless | NCommander: any permissions you need should be distro centric, to support derived distros (e.g. linaro). | 10:25 |
| NCommander | lifeless: building a livefs will require building on devirtualized builders, and not connected to any package | 10:25 |
| lifeless | and? | 10:25 |
| NCommander | lifeless: what team should it be connected to. There's isn't exactly a nice place where to hang it (first though was ~ubuntu-drivers but that team is already overloaded as is) | 10:26 |
| NCommander | Unless I add a new Image Builder or Release Team thingy somewhere in a distroseries | 10:26 |
| lifeless | any published distro driver would be my starting point; creating distros is a privileged operation. | 10:26 |
| lifeless | don't overthink this. | 10:27 |
| NCommander | lifeless: right, but the driver team currently has 60+ members in it and is being used for fun things like UDS managers | 10:27 |
| lifeless | you don't need to limit it to 'just the people that have to do it', what you need to do is to 'exclude folk that might abuse or attack it' | 10:27 |
| lifeless | these are wildly different problems. | 10:27 |
| * NCommander is about halfway getting launchpad-buildd to understand livebuilds, and suspect I'll need help when we get to the plumbing side in LP | 10:27 | |
| lifeless | If a UDS manager spins an extraneous livecd build, who cares. Tell them off. Problem solved. | 10:28 |
| NCommander | Good point | 10:28 |
| NCommander | lifeless: thanks for your help | 10:28 |
| StevenK | lifeless is just bored because he can't play CS:GO. | 10:29 |
| * NCommander personally recommends civ 5 :-) | 10:29 | |
| StevenK | I was playing that a few nights ago. Bloody hell, it's *enormous* | 10:29 |
| NCommander | That game is a soul-sucker. | 10:29 |
| NCommander | Works amazingly well under wine though. Was pretty suprised when the demo just went | 10:30 |
| lifeless | StevenK: helping and being bored are not mutually exclusive ;) | 10:33 |
| * NCommander notes his end goal is to have a nice webpage that completely replaces nusaken with all image building tasks being done on LP | 10:35 | |
| NCommander | vs. the arcane voodoo required now | 10:36 |
| NCommander | *nusakan | 10:36 |
| NCommander | so flavors can click a button and presto; respun images | 10:37 |
| * NCommander grumble | 10:48 | |
| NCommander | *s | 10:48 |
| NCommander | my builder went to an ABORT state and I can't figure out where the log file is | 10:48 |
| wgrant | NCommander: There's no build log for an ABORTed builder | 10:55 |
| wgrant | NCommander: Check /var/log/launchpad-buildd/default.log on the slasve | 10:55 |
| NCommander | wgrant: thanks. So my build succeeded and uploaded but running the test cases for launchpad-buildd sent it straight into OMG broken mode | 10:59 |
| jam | mgz: did your patch make it to prod? | 10:59 |
| jam | mgz: ah, looks like it is in 15805 waiting for the next NDT | 11:02 |
| NCommander | exceptions.ValueError: Slave is not BUILDING when told build is complete - *grumble* | 11:02 |
| wgrant | NCommander: Ah, yeah, running the test suite on a machine with a live launchpad-buildd is a good way to die. | 11:08 |
| * NCommander doesn't really feel like setting up a second machine at the moment to run as a slave :-/ | 11:09 | |
| wgrant | NCommander: VMs :) | 12:05 |
| rick_h_ | deryck: ping for standup | 13:32 |
| deryck | rick_h_, coming now, sorry | 13:32 |
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| rick_h_ | anyone have a link handy for using the people.canonical space? | 14:17 |
| rick_h_ | I think I just sent a test .png file to the middle of no where | 14:18 |
| czajkowski | rick_h_: jpds might know | 14:21 |
| rick_h_ | thanks czajkowski | 14:22 |
| czajkowski | np | 14:23 |
| deryck | yay for stable wifi at the wife's shop finally. | 15:16 |
| rick_h_ | yay | 15:21 |
| czajkowski | sinzui: what happens when you click sub someone else https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/205885 | 16:06 |
| sinzui | czajkowski: js failed to init on the page I think | 16:07 |
| mgz | <https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/205885/+addsubscriber> is a 404 (js-less) alright | 16:09 |
| czajkowski | sinzui: odd it's happening on https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/205854 also | 16:11 |
| sinzui | czajkowski: because is a js error | 16:11 |
| czajkowski | nods | 16:11 |
| czajkowski | just randomly happened | 16:11 |
| sinzui | js fails every where, not on one page | 16:11 |
| mgz | well, the page not existing isn't a js error... if there's no non-js mode, there shouldn't be a href pointing to lies | 16:11 |
| sinzui | czajkowski: The subscribe someone else is shared with bugs and mp reviews | 16:12 |
| sinzui | since js is broken, we can see that answers does not support that via a html view | 16:13 |
| sinzui | The error in the page related to comments. maybe jcsackett can understand the error on questions | 16:13 |
| * sinzui adds a comment to a question to see if the js starts to work | 16:15 | |
| jcsackett | sinzui: with a comment it should. | 16:16 |
| sinzui | yep | 16:16 |
| rick_h_ | yea, there's no .boardComment and the JS doesn't allow for that to not exist so it's dying | 16:16 |
| jcsackett | looks like a goof in the cl setup--it assumes (and our test provides) a boardcomment. | 16:16 |
| rick_h_ | var container = Y.one('.boardComment').get('parentNode'); | 16:16 |
| jcsackett | sinzui: i can whomp up a fix for that today. | 16:16 |
| rick_h_ | assume it must exist | 16:16 |
| sinzui | czajkowski: subscribe js on answers is broken when there is not comments | 16:16 |
| sinzui | I added a comment, reloaded the page and js worked | 16:16 |
| czajkowski | oh most odd | 16:17 |
| czajkowski | thanks | 16:17 |
| sinzui | I will report the bug. The js just needs to return early if there is no work to do | 16:17 |
| jcsackett | sinzui, rick_h_: looks like the cl can just not exist if it doesn't find boardcomment, since there's nothing for it to do in that situation anyway. agree/disagree? | 16:17 |
| rick_h_ | jcsackett: yea assuming there's no way to ajax add comments | 16:18 |
| sinzui | jcsackett: this is true for answers, Mp and bugs start with comments I think | 16:18 |
| rick_h_ | jcsackett: that would blow up if a CL wasn't there for it to get added to | 16:18 |
| jcsackett | rick_h_: there's no interaction like that to worry about; there is an ajax add comment form, but when you add a comment on the page you can't immediately hide it anyway. that may be a defect, but it's a separate one as it's long been the case. | 16:19 |
| sinzui | jcsackett: This has been broken for weeks. I think subscribing before commenting is rare | 16:19 |
| jcsackett | sinzui: i concur. and re: bug's having comments off the bat, that's correct, but i don't believe they are shown as boardComment--the first "comment" is the description. | 16:19 |
| sinzui | ah, correct | 16:20 |
| sinzui | jcsackett: you can report the bug and optionally choose to fix it. "disclosure information-type regression" | 16:20 |
| jcsackett | sinzui: ok, i can create a fix for this pretty easily. | 16:21 |
| sinzui | jcsackett: since there re no reviewers today, I pre-emptively ask you to review a branch. I am not asking you to review it now | 18:28 |
| jcsackett | sinzui: no problem. | 18:43 |
| jcsackett | sinzui: r=me. | 20:11 |
| sinzui | thank you jcsackett | 20:19 |
| jam | lifeless: you might be interested in: https://code.launchpad.net/~jameinel/launchpad/loggerhead-clear-cache/+merge/119793 | 21:01 |
| jam | calling '.clear_cache()' on all the versioned file objects has a pretty big impact on the 'spider loggerhead' peak memory. | 21:02 |
| lifeless | does this impact performance? was the cache getting used before ? | 21:03 |
| jam | lifeless: every request gets a new bzr_branchd | 21:04 |
| jam | so no | 21:04 |
| lifeless | cool then | 21:04 |
| jam | (we could try to re-use them, but that is much hairier than not :) | 21:04 |
| lifeless | see you guys on the flip side. | 22:22 |
| NCommander | so how do files leave librarian? | 23:35 |
| * NCommander is trying to figure out how old squashfs's will poof out of librarian | 23:35 | |
| StevenK | NCommander: They are garbage collected when they are not referenced. | 23:37 |
| NCommander | StevenK: what defines a reference? (or is there a minimium age before they get GC'ed?) | 23:37 |
| NCommander | Mostly I want squashfs's to stick around for a day or two then I don't care if they get deleted | 23:37 |
| StevenK | NCommander: So, stuff in the the librarian is an LFA and a correspending LFC (LibraryFileAlias, and LibraryFileContent) | 23:38 |
| StevenK | NCommander: Things like BugAttachment link to LFA. | 23:38 |
| NCommander | Sounds like squashfs's need a LFC when they're uploaded that points to the most recent squashfs | 23:38 |
| StevenK | If the attachment is deleted, the row in BugAttachment is dropped, and the LFA now has nothing pointing to it | 23:39 |
| StevenK | And it will get GC'd after a stay of execution, which is a week or something | 23:39 |
| StevenK | NCommander: Your custom upload will create the LFA and LFC. Don't worry about that. | 23:40 |
| NCommander | eh, in that case, its mostly then I don't care. I just need to be able to find the latest squashfs in librarian, download it, and let it get executed whenever its time rolls around | 23:40 |
| NCommander | StevenK: er? I though non-package uploads just go straight into librarian and bypass the queue. I can't have a custom upload without an assiocated source package, no? | 23:40 |
| NCommander | (aka, how translations are handled currently) | 23:41 |
| StevenK | NCommander: Just because they're directly ACCEPTED does not mean there isn't a PackageUpload for them. | 23:42 |
| NCommander | so launchpadlib call to trigger a build -> live-build job runs on buildds -> live-image upload to Soyuz -> PackageUpload? | 23:43 |
| * NCommander was thinking the system worked trigger->buildd job->librarian | 23:43 | |
| * NCommander does have launchpad-buildd at the point where it now can do a live-image build | 23:44 | |
| StevenK | I | 23:44 |
| StevenK | Sigh | 23:44 |
| StevenK | I'm trying to remember if the translations stuff has a PackageUploadCustom associated with it | 23:45 |
| NCommander | raw transitations do, which then via some automagic process get queued up by buildd manager to be executed. THere seems to be *very* little code in soyuz about it | 23:45 |
| NCommander | The processed translations, I'm not so sure | 23:45 |
| StevenK | NCommander: The revelant code would be in buildmaster | 23:46 |
| NCommander | there's also very little code there :-/ | 23:46 |
| * NCommander has heard of trying to find a needle in a needlestack before ... | 23:46 | |
| StevenK | Perhaps archiveuploader | 23:46 |
| * NCommander thinks he needs to run a translations job and watch to see where the files go | 23:47 | |
| NCommander | If they go into soyuz, its easier because then I can simply iterate on an archive for the proper custom upload type (per docstories) | 23:47 |
| StevenK | NCommander: I think you need to write a LEP | 23:48 |
| NCommander | There's a partial one for this usecase | 23:49 |
| NCommander | https://dev.launchpad.net/Soyuz/Specs/BuilddGeneralisation | 23:49 |
| bigjools | you want a new build type? | 23:50 |
| NCommander | I implemented a new build-type. live-image | 23:50 |
| huwshimi | rick_h_: Just found some internet, if you're available for a call sometime. Otherwise I'll send you an email. | 23:50 |
| NCommander | WHich partially works | 23:50 |
| NCommander | I think its stuck in an infinite loop ATM though | 23:51 |
| bigjools | it's not an easy task | 23:51 |
| NCommander | bigjools: well, my build-type works, the trick is getting ways to trigger the builds via launchpadlib, and getting those files somewhere useful | 23:51 |
| * NCommander originally was just going to have a source package + custom upload | 23:52 | |
| StevenK | wgrant: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1149798/ | 23:52 |
| wgrant | NCommander: Why are you trying to use a packageupload? | 23:54 |
| wgrant | It's not a packageupload | 23:54 |
| wgrant | And I'm not sure there's any reason for it to be. | 23:54 |
| NCommander | wgrant: I didn't think it was, StevenK was the one who brought it up | 23:54 |
| wgrant | :( | 23:59 |
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