[10:07] <Varikonniemi> hello, is there any real reason why ubuntu stays with upstartd, besides from it being made by ubuntu devs?
[10:08] <Varikonniemi> seems pretty clear to me that systemd is the way to go, even arch is moving in that way now
[10:08] <Varikonniemi> so question is: could next major release (LTS) come with systemd?
[10:28] <Debolaz> Varikonniemi: It is possible that systemd might be introduced at a later point. I suspect an issue with switching is that it's a very central part of the OS, and the systemd author does have a bit of reputation of being difficult to work with.
[10:29] <Debolaz> Varikonniemi: After the issues they had with the GNOME dev team, it's hard to blame Canonical for being a bit vary.
[11:43] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:13] <Jacruth> Ey guys, how could I add http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.4.7-quantal/ to my repositories?
[14:21] <bobweaver> anyone else here can NOT shut down there computer via pannel ?
[14:21] <bobweaver> just logs me out for everything wanted to know if it is just m e before filling bug
[14:23] <smartboyhw> Hi bobweaver, let's talk in #ubuntu-tv
[14:24] <bobweaver> lol
[14:24] <bobweaver> hello smartboyhw  how are you be right there
[19:46] <peterrus> hey
[19:46] <peterrus> just dist-upgraded
[19:46] <peterrus> now compiz/unity wont start\
[19:47] <peterrus> and I have no 2D session option in lightdm either
[19:47] <peterrus> known issue?
[19:47] <peterrus> workarounds?
[19:49] <peterrus> oh
[19:49] <peterrus> they removed unity 2d altogether
[19:49] <trism> peterrus: yes the unity-2d was removed today, there is supposed to be a fallback to llvmpipe software rendering but I don't know if that is working yet
[19:49] <peterrus> so all your unity´s are still working?
[19:49] <peterrus> as mine isn´t XD
[19:49] <peterrus> didnt use 2d anyway
[19:50] <trism> oh you didn't use 2d, thought the issue was you did
[19:50] <peterrus> no I just get a desktop
[19:50] <peterrus> with icons
[19:50] <peterrus> no unity
[19:50] <trism> interesting, me too
[19:50] <trism> hadn't logged in yet
[19:51] <peterrus> good, well bad, but good that I am not alone XD
[19:51] <peterrus> lets check some logs
[19:52] <peterrus> filing bugreport
[19:52] <peterrus> xorg crashed with sigsegv in basicComputeAcceleration()
[19:53] <trism> I managed to get a desktop with a: unity --reset
[19:53] <peterrus> in a VT?
[19:54] <trism> peterrus: actually I popped up a terminal from ssh, vt may work too
[19:54] <peterrus> that did indeed work
[19:54] <peterrus> trism: thanks, didnt know about that command
[19:55] <trism> peterrus: however, not much of a fix it seems, log out/back in and no desktop yet again
[19:55] <peterrus> true
[19:58] <peterrus> hmm gtk themes are borked
[19:58] <peterrus> in some applications that is
[19:59] <peterrus> skype and teamspeak that is, but they arent properly coded so xD
[20:02] <trism> probably still some work left for bug 1035261 , I notice the compiz task was moved from fix released to triaged 6 hours ago
[20:04] <bobweaver> losing out on so mukch droping qt
[20:04] <ironhalik> It's a hardware/linux question but here goes - If I forgot to add 'discard' to my fstab on my SSD (system drive), will the OS recover the performance after adding the flag or do I need to /dev/zero the drive or something?
[20:05] <peterrus> hmm A2DP bluetooth audio is still broken :(
[20:06] <bobweaver> hows nux on handerling api via xml data how is nux multimedia
[20:06] <peterrus> oh i take that back
[20:09] <bobweaver> I sure would like to learn nux but there is no doc's I have read dudes blog and also developer.ubuntu but all that says is how to build. Go to QML site and see if there is instuctions
[20:10] <bobweaver> IMHO ridiculous
[20:32] <trism> peterrus: fixed in compiz 1:0.9.8+bzr3249-0ubuntu4 , it was loading the default compiz profile instead of the unity one (so only two plugins loaded, and we see a blank desktop)
[20:32] <peterrus> trism, nice, when can I expect this?
[20:32] <trism> peterrus: it should be out now if you apt-get update
[20:32] <peterrus> alright
[20:33] <peterrus> thats quick
[20:33] <peterrus> not yet
[20:33] <peterrus> but I will try tonight
[20:33] <trism> might take a while depending on the mirror
[22:22] <ironhalik> Hmm, why in 12.10 eclipse is at version 3.8
[22:22] <ironhalik> when 4.2 is the latest stable, 4.3 latest development? :>
[22:24] <trism> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681726
[22:28] <trism> interestingly, 4.2 was imported into the debian packaging git 6 days ago, so maybe not long off
[22:33] <peterrus> wow
[22:33] <peterrus> i suddenly have gestures
[22:33] <peterrus> to move windows with 3 fingers and whatnot
[22:33] <peterrus> lets look up a list of the possibilitys
[22:34] <peterrus> wow this is awesome
[22:34] <peterrus> no reason to envy osx anymore