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smartboyhwHi!04:15
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smartboyhwHi!09:59
smartboyhwBug 103438110:28
ubot5Launchpad bug 837054 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "duplicate for #1034381 Time Zone selection shows about 20 different "New York"s and doesn't autoselect my location" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83705410:28
smartboyhwbug 83705410:28
ubot5Launchpad bug 837054 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Time Zone selection shows about 20 different "New York"s and doesn't autoselect my location" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83705410:28
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smartboyhwIs any testcase admins team people here?12:13
smartboyhwballoons or phillw?12:13
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smartboyhwUbuntu QA Meeting in an hour12:59
smartboyhwMeeting in 20 minutes13:41
smartboyhwQA meeting in 7 minuts13:53
* smartboyhw slaps balloons around a bit with a large trout13:56
* smartboyhw slaps balloons around a bit with a large trout13:59
smartboyhwballoons and phillw and astraljava: Please go to the meeting now!!!14:00
balloonsphillw, ohh14:05
smartboyhwballoons: ?14:06
balloonslol, i'm guessing you didn't get the results because your email was down? I'll send again14:06
smartboyhwWhat results? balloons, get back to the meeting, please14:06
smartboyhwphillw: o/ if you are there14:11
balloonsphillw, results have been re-sent14:14
smartboyhwballoons: Finished speaking or what?14:17
smartboyhwballoons: Are you in there?14:24
smartboyhwballoons: Answer on meeting14:39
smartboyhwSo, balloons...What should we talk about?14:44
balloonssmartboyhw, Of shoes and ships and sealing-wax14:45
balloonsand cabbages and kngs14:45
smartboyhwWhat?14:45
smartboyhwNo jokes, please14:45
balloonssmartboyhw, more literature..14:45
balloonsalice in wonderland.. probably lost on you14:45
smartboyhw...14:45
balloonsI must lighten my day, I'm sorry14:45
balloonsyou had questions, ask away14:46
smartboyhwSo, I saw some Mythbuntu testcases missing...14:46
balloonswhat do you mean missing/14:47
balloonsand where?>14:47
smartboyhwIn the ISO QA Tracker14:48
smartboyhwFrontEnd and BackEnd14:48
smartboyhwThey are all TBD14:48
balloonslink?14:48
smartboyhwWait a moment14:49
smartboyhwI'm helping the Mythbuntu guys to test, BTW, they need testers14:49
smartboyhwDon't worry, someone fixed it now14:50
smartboyhwForget about it.14:50
balloonsheh14:50
balloonsk14:50
smartboyhwballoons: So what can we do more to promote the team? You said everyone can do that...14:51
balloonsyes, smartboyhw14:51
balloonsyes, speaking with others and inviting them to help in testing promotes the team14:51
balloonsblogging about your work also promotes14:51
smartboyhwHmm14:51
smartboyhwBlogging?14:51
balloonsgoing to a loco and getting others involved14:52
smartboyhwYeah, I don't know how to get contact with Hong Kong LoCo, I can't contact them14:52
smartboyhwAnyway, balloons, I forgotten: Is there a Twitter channel for testing?14:54
balloonssmartboyhw, there is14:54
balloons:-)14:54
balloons@ubuntutesting14:54
meetingologyballoons: Error: "ubuntutesting" is not a valid command.14:54
smartboyhwHa!14:54
smartboyhwballoons just got slaped by meetingology14:54
smartboyhwWait, does that mean we can actually hold meetings here?14:55
balloonssmartboyhw, yes we are able14:55
smartboyhwHmm....That's weird14:55
smartboyhwballoons: Then why do we have to host meetings in #ubuntu-meeting?14:56
smartboyhwballoons: Are you typing or are you asleep?:)14:59
balloonssmartboyhw, we host them in #ubuntu-meeting because that's the meeting place14:59
balloonswe don't have to14:59
smartboyhw...14:59
balloonswe could have them here14:59
balloonsbut it would interrupt this room for an hour15:00
smartboyhwOh!15:00
balloonsin there it interrupts no one15:00
smartboyhwballoons: Xubuntu hosts it's meetings in it15:01
smartboyhw's devel channel15:02
balloonssmartboyhw, ?15:02
smartboyhwLook at #xubuntu-devel15:02
smartboyhwHey, astraljava's just booted up!15:03
balloonsyay astraljava15:04
astraljavaYes, hi. Sorry I missed the meeting, was commuting.15:04
balloonsastraljava, no worries mate15:05
smartboyhwYep, we will be here15:06
smartboyhwNot much on the meeting, don't worry15:06
smartboyhwballoons: I asked on #ubuntu-devel about AbiWord, they told me to look on Launchpad!15:10
smartboyhwBye115:32
bdmurrayjibel: how did you discover bug 1017001 was reproducable using mythbuntu?  I'm wondering if there is something missing from these apport reports.16:23
ubot5Launchpad bug 1017001 in apt (Ubuntu Quantal) "package resolvconf 1.63ubuntu14 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: pre-dependency problem - not installing resolvconf" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101700116:23
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njinballoons, nope, actually i'm not able to draw that grid into drupal, i download videos to learn, but today's isn't possible to have the necessary concentration (too high temperatures)18:02
balloonsheh18:02
balloonsnjin, I can try18:02
balloonslet's have a look together18:02
njinit is pratically done, just remaining that allignement18:02
* njin happy18:02
balloonsok, I see your testcase18:03
balloonsright the tables look.. ok.. just not formatted nicely18:04
* balloons is editing18:04
njinnjin is thanking balloons18:04
balloonshmm18:05
njinI've also thinked to attacha screenshot if it is more easy18:06
phillwballoons: ping18:06
balloonsphillw, pong18:06
phillwsprry for not being about, just as my dad for his works this morning, one of the 2 guys called in sick & my Dad was due out to day.18:07
phillw*sorry*18:07
njinme fighting mosquitoes but seems they are winning18:15
balloonsphillw, no worries18:15
balloonsnjin, heh I know the feeling18:15
balloonslots of rain this summer18:15
balloonslots of bugs18:15
balloonsso i made a change18:16
balloonslikely you saw i18:16
balloons*it18:16
njinuhh, they beat me everywhere18:16
balloonsbut I couldn't get the borders to appear18:16
* njin looking18:16
balloonsso, I have one more solution to try18:17
njinok, so i adjust the other remaining part and start with install print server18:18
balloonswell18:18
balloonslet me try one other thing18:18
balloonsI ideally want borders around it18:18
njinok18:18
balloonstake a look now18:18
balloonsI used the pre tag18:18
balloonsyep18:19
balloonsi like that18:19
balloonslet me fix the table.18:19
balloonsone sec18:19
balloonsbut using pre looks nice18:19
njinyes, just to adjust the space inside18:19
njini'll do it then, thanks18:19
* njin looking the code18:20
balloonsk18:20
balloonsI adjusted it18:20
balloonsbasically use a monospace font in an outside editor, then paste it in18:20
balloonsit looks jumbled after pasting, but it renders properly18:20
balloonsdoes that make sense?18:21
balloonsI'm converting the other one back now18:21
njingreat works, thanks18:21
njinpratically I'm obscure in web stuff18:23
balloonsk, should look good now18:23
njink, thanks a lot18:23
balloonsnjin I think this got lost in translation : :pratically I'm obscure in web stuff"18:23
njinI go on with print server18:23
balloons:-) Are you meaning to say you aren't familar with web markup?18:23
* njin asking google translate...18:23
balloonshehe18:24
balloonsyes, keep going.. looking very good!18:24
balloonsuse the pre tag for this type of stuff I guess.. looks nice18:24
njinok, is very nice18:25
balloonsnjin, make sure you copy the tests over to prod as soon as you like the way they look18:26
balloonshttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/testcases18:27
balloonsotherwise, they could be lost.. that's only a test server, and the data could get wiped18:27
njinuh, really18:28
balloonsnjin, yes.. shouldn't be an issue, but please treat it that way18:28
balloonsit's not getting backed up, not guarenteed to be up, etc18:28
balloonsdon't put real data there long term :-)18:28
njinok, balloons I'm doing it18:30
balloonsnjin, excellent18:30
balloonsdon't worry.. the testcases don't show up until I assign them anyways18:30
balloonsso there's no harm at all with putting them on the production site18:30
njinok, essential don't miss the work18:30
balloonseven before we're ready to use them18:30
njinballoons, mail server testcase is done and verified, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/testsuites20:16
balloonsnjin, awesome20:16
balloonshow many are left now?20:16
njin12 mandatory + 4 run at once + 1 optional20:17
njintomorrow I go on, now is late, see you soon20:17
njintomorrow i try to run  the raid in real hardware and do the testcase20:19
njinballoons, see yo tomorow, bye20:20
bdmurrayjibel: ping20:54
jibelbdmurray, pong20:54
bdmurrayjibel: how did you determine mythbuntu for the test case in bug 1017001?20:55
ubot5Launchpad bug 1017001 in apt (Ubuntu Quantal) "package resolvconf 1.63ubuntu14 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: pre-dependency problem - not installing resolvconf" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101700120:55
bdmurrayjibel: it seems to be something might be missing from the apport data for package installations20:55
jibelbdmurray, I read the comments on the duplicates20:55
bdmurrayjibel: having InstallationMedia might have helped?20:55
jibelI don't think something is missing from the apport data20:56
bdmurrayor whatever it is...20:56
jibelbdmurray, more precisely this comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/937196/comments/15 from mrand20:57
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1017001 in apt (Ubuntu Quantal) "duplicate for #937196 package resolvconf 1.63ubuntu14 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: pre-dependency problem - not installing resolvconf" [Critical,Confirmed]20:57
jibeland I just tried it in a VM20:57
bdmurrayjibel: and I'm suggesting that apport-package bugs should have '/var/log/installer/media-info', 'InstallationMedia' added to them20:58
jibelbut I think mythbuntu without updates is just one way to trigger the bug. There is probably a smaller set of packages with specific versions to install and still reproduce it.20:59
bdmurraythat way one could more easily determine what initial image to start with20:59
jibelwell, some of them have this info but not all. I see from the duplicates21:00
jibel InstallationMedia: Ubuntu-Netbook 10.04 "Lucid Lynx" - Release i386 (20100429.4)21:00
jibel InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS "Lucid Lynx" - Release i386 (20100429)21:00
bdmurrayjibel: right lp-bug-dupe-properties would help here21:02
jibelbdmurray, what is  lp-bug-dupe-properties ?21:03
bdmurrayjibel: don't you read my blog‽ http://www.murraytwins.com/blog/?p=12221:03
jibelbdmurray, the problem is not reading blogs but remembering the contents :)21:05
bdmurraywell surely that tool should have been memorable!21:05
ScottKHas anyone seen issues where upgrading 11.10 to 12.04 just stops in the middle?21:05
ScottKInstalling new version of config file /etc/init.d/apparmor ...21:06
ScottK * Starting AppArmor profiles21:06
ScottK   ...done.21:06
ScottK * Reloading AppArmor profiles21:06
ScottK   ...done.21:06
ScottKSetting up bash-completion (1:1.3-1ubuntu8) ...21:06
ScottKThen crickets.21:06
jibelbdmurray, it is not in Quantal ?21:07
jibelI mean not in lptools available in Quantal21:07
bdmurrayoh maybe nobody has uploaded it yet to quantal21:08
jibelsuch a memorable tools should be an Quantal21:09
jibeltool21:09
ScottKNevermind.  Seems to be hardware related.21:12
kanliotany guidelines on reporting an intermittent bug?21:26
kanliota lockup bug seems to happen intermittently21:27
kanliotnot sure which process it is.... could be mplayer, or gnome-mplayer21:27
balloonskanliot, in precise or ?21:42
kanliotyeah precise.  wrong channeL?21:43
balloonswell.. you may be better off asking in ubuntu-bugs.. however, the more you can do to narrow down what's happening the better21:44
balloonsis the kernel locking up? a process? the desktop?21:44
balloonssorry.. I should get it right.. #ubuntu-bugs21:44
kanliotnope just the video21:44
kanliotwhich isnt' severe21:44
balloonswhat do you mean by video?21:45
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kanliotman can i raincheck this chat thx21:46
balloonskanliot, sure21:47
kanliot!bug 1037344 can someone check this over for accuracy in my bug report?23:31
ubot5Launchpad bug 1037344 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "installation doesn't prompt for reboot after installing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103734423:31

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