[04:15] <smartboyhw> Hi!
[05:38]  * smartboyhw waves at phillw
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[07:47]  * green7 waves
[09:59] <smartboyhw> Hi!
[10:28] <smartboyhw> Bug 1034381
[10:28] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 837054 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "duplicate for #1034381 Time Zone selection shows about 20 different "New York"s and doesn't autoselect my location" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/837054
[10:28] <smartboyhw> bug 837054
[10:28] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 837054 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "Time Zone selection shows about 20 different "New York"s and doesn't autoselect my location" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/837054
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[12:13] <smartboyhw> Is any testcase admins team people here?
[12:13] <smartboyhw> balloons or phillw?
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[12:59] <smartboyhw> Ubuntu QA Meeting in an hour
[13:41] <smartboyhw> Meeting in 20 minutes
[13:53] <smartboyhw> QA meeting in 7 minuts
[13:56]  * smartboyhw slaps balloons around a bit with a large trout
[13:59]  * smartboyhw slaps balloons around a bit with a large trout
[14:00] <smartboyhw> balloons and phillw and astraljava: Please go to the meeting now!!!
[14:05] <balloons> phillw, ohh
[14:06] <smartboyhw> balloons: ?
[14:06] <balloons> lol, i'm guessing you didn't get the results because your email was down? I'll send again
[14:06] <smartboyhw> What results? balloons, get back to the meeting, please
[14:11] <smartboyhw> phillw: o/ if you are there
[14:14] <balloons> phillw, results have been re-sent
[14:17] <smartboyhw> balloons: Finished speaking or what?
[14:24] <smartboyhw> balloons: Are you in there?
[14:39] <smartboyhw> balloons: Answer on meeting
[14:44] <smartboyhw> So, balloons...What should we talk about?
[14:45] <balloons> smartboyhw, Of shoes and ships and sealing-wax
[14:45] <balloons> and cabbages and kngs
[14:45] <smartboyhw> What?
[14:45] <smartboyhw> No jokes, please
[14:45] <balloons> smartboyhw, more literature..
[14:45] <balloons> alice in wonderland.. probably lost on you
[14:45] <smartboyhw> ...
[14:45] <balloons> I must lighten my day, I'm sorry
[14:46] <balloons> you had questions, ask away
[14:46] <smartboyhw> So, I saw some Mythbuntu testcases missing...
[14:47] <balloons> what do you mean missing/
[14:47] <balloons> and where?>
[14:48] <smartboyhw> In the ISO QA Tracker
[14:48] <smartboyhw> FrontEnd and BackEnd
[14:48] <smartboyhw> They are all TBD
[14:48] <balloons> link?
[14:49] <smartboyhw> Wait a moment
[14:49] <smartboyhw> I'm helping the Mythbuntu guys to test, BTW, they need testers
[14:50] <smartboyhw> Don't worry, someone fixed it now
[14:50] <smartboyhw> Forget about it.
[14:50] <balloons> heh
[14:50] <balloons> k
[14:51] <smartboyhw> balloons: So what can we do more to promote the team? You said everyone can do that...
[14:51] <balloons> yes, smartboyhw
[14:51] <balloons> yes, speaking with others and inviting them to help in testing promotes the team
[14:51] <balloons> blogging about your work also promotes
[14:51] <smartboyhw> Hmm
[14:51] <smartboyhw> Blogging?
[14:52] <balloons> going to a loco and getting others involved
[14:52] <smartboyhw> Yeah, I don't know how to get contact with Hong Kong LoCo, I can't contact them
[14:54] <smartboyhw> Anyway, balloons, I forgotten: Is there a Twitter channel for testing?
[14:54] <balloons> smartboyhw, there is
[14:54] <balloons> :-)
[14:54] <balloons> @ubuntutesting
[14:54] <meetingology> balloons: Error: "ubuntutesting" is not a valid command.
[14:54] <smartboyhw> Ha!
[14:54] <smartboyhw> balloons just got slaped by meetingology
[14:55] <smartboyhw> Wait, does that mean we can actually hold meetings here?
[14:55] <balloons> smartboyhw, yes we are able
[14:55] <smartboyhw> Hmm....That's weird
[14:56] <smartboyhw> balloons: Then why do we have to host meetings in #ubuntu-meeting?
[14:59] <smartboyhw> balloons: Are you typing or are you asleep?:)
[14:59] <balloons> smartboyhw, we host them in #ubuntu-meeting because that's the meeting place
[14:59] <balloons> we don't have to
[14:59] <smartboyhw> ...
[14:59] <balloons> we could have them here
[15:00] <balloons> but it would interrupt this room for an hour
[15:00] <smartboyhw> Oh!
[15:00] <balloons> in there it interrupts no one
[15:01] <smartboyhw> balloons: Xubuntu hosts it's meetings in it
[15:02] <smartboyhw> 's devel channel
[15:02] <balloons> smartboyhw, ?
[15:02] <smartboyhw> Look at #xubuntu-devel
[15:03] <smartboyhw> Hey, astraljava's just booted up!
[15:04] <balloons> yay astraljava
[15:04] <astraljava> Yes, hi. Sorry I missed the meeting, was commuting.
[15:05] <balloons> astraljava, no worries mate
[15:06] <smartboyhw> Yep, we will be here
[15:06] <smartboyhw> Not much on the meeting, don't worry
[15:10] <smartboyhw> balloons: I asked on #ubuntu-devel about AbiWord, they told me to look on Launchpad!
[15:32] <smartboyhw> Bye1
[16:23] <bdmurray> jibel: how did you discover bug 1017001 was reproducable using mythbuntu?  I'm wondering if there is something missing from these apport reports.
[16:23] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1017001 in apt (Ubuntu Quantal) "package resolvconf 1.63ubuntu14 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: pre-dependency problem - not installing resolvconf" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017001
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[18:02] <njin> balloons, nope, actually i'm not able to draw that grid into drupal, i download videos to learn, but today's isn't possible to have the necessary concentration (too high temperatures)
[18:02] <balloons> heh
[18:02] <balloons> njin, I can try
[18:02] <balloons> let's have a look together
[18:02] <njin> it is pratically done, just remaining that allignement
[18:02]  * njin happy
[18:03] <balloons> ok, I see your testcase
[18:04] <balloons> right the tables look.. ok.. just not formatted nicely
[18:04]  * balloons is editing
[18:04] <njin> njin is thanking balloons
[18:05] <balloons> hmm
[18:06] <njin> I've also thinked to attacha screenshot if it is more easy
[18:06] <phillw> balloons: ping
[18:06] <balloons> phillw, pong
[18:07] <phillw> sprry for not being about, just as my dad for his works this morning, one of the 2 guys called in sick & my Dad was due out to day.
[18:07] <phillw> *sorry*
[18:15] <njin> me fighting mosquitoes but seems they are winning
[18:15] <balloons> phillw, no worries
[18:15] <balloons> njin, heh I know the feeling
[18:15] <balloons> lots of rain this summer
[18:15] <balloons> lots of bugs
[18:16] <balloons> so i made a change
[18:16] <balloons> likely you saw i
[18:16] <balloons> *it
[18:16] <njin> uhh, they beat me everywhere
[18:16] <balloons> but I couldn't get the borders to appear
[18:16]  * njin looking
[18:17] <balloons> so, I have one more solution to try
[18:18] <njin> ok, so i adjust the other remaining part and start with install print server
[18:18] <balloons> well
[18:18] <balloons> let me try one other thing
[18:18] <balloons> I ideally want borders around it
[18:18] <njin> ok
[18:18] <balloons> take a look now
[18:18] <balloons> I used the pre tag
[18:19] <balloons> yep
[18:19] <balloons> i like that
[18:19] <balloons> let me fix the table.
[18:19] <balloons> one sec
[18:19] <balloons> but using pre looks nice
[18:19] <njin> yes, just to adjust the space inside
[18:19] <njin> i'll do it then, thanks
[18:20]  * njin looking the code
[18:20] <balloons> k
[18:20] <balloons> I adjusted it
[18:20] <balloons> basically use a monospace font in an outside editor, then paste it in
[18:20] <balloons> it looks jumbled after pasting, but it renders properly
[18:21] <balloons> does that make sense?
[18:21] <balloons> I'm converting the other one back now
[18:21] <njin> great works, thanks
[18:23] <njin> pratically I'm obscure in web stuff
[18:23] <balloons> k, should look good now
[18:23] <njin> k, thanks a lot
[18:23] <balloons> njin I think this got lost in translation : :pratically I'm obscure in web stuff"
[18:23] <njin> I go on with print server
[18:23] <balloons> :-) Are you meaning to say you aren't familar with web markup?
[18:23]  * njin asking google translate...
[18:24] <balloons> hehe
[18:24] <balloons> yes, keep going.. looking very good!
[18:24] <balloons> use the pre tag for this type of stuff I guess.. looks nice
[18:25] <njin> ok, is very nice
[18:26] <balloons> njin, make sure you copy the tests over to prod as soon as you like the way they look
[18:27] <balloons> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/testcases
[18:27] <balloons> otherwise, they could be lost.. that's only a test server, and the data could get wiped
[18:28] <njin> uh, really
[18:28] <balloons> njin, yes.. shouldn't be an issue, but please treat it that way
[18:28] <balloons> it's not getting backed up, not guarenteed to be up, etc
[18:28] <balloons> don't put real data there long term :-)
[18:30] <njin> ok, balloons I'm doing it
[18:30] <balloons> njin, excellent
[18:30] <balloons> don't worry.. the testcases don't show up until I assign them anyways
[18:30] <balloons> so there's no harm at all with putting them on the production site
[18:30] <njin> ok, essential don't miss the work
[18:30] <balloons> even before we're ready to use them
[20:16] <njin> balloons, mail server testcase is done and verified, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/testsuites
[20:16] <balloons> njin, awesome
[20:16] <balloons> how many are left now?
[20:17] <njin> 12 mandatory + 4 run at once + 1 optional
[20:17] <njin> tomorrow I go on, now is late, see you soon
[20:19] <njin> tomorrow i try to run  the raid in real hardware and do the testcase
[20:20] <njin> balloons, see yo tomorow, bye
[20:54] <bdmurray> jibel: ping
[20:54] <jibel> bdmurray, pong
[20:55] <bdmurray> jibel: how did you determine mythbuntu for the test case in bug 1017001?
[20:55] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1017001 in apt (Ubuntu Quantal) "package resolvconf 1.63ubuntu14 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: pre-dependency problem - not installing resolvconf" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017001
[20:55] <bdmurray> jibel: it seems to be something might be missing from the apport data for package installations
[20:55] <jibel> bdmurray, I read the comments on the duplicates
[20:55] <bdmurray> jibel: having InstallationMedia might have helped?
[20:56] <jibel> I don't think something is missing from the apport data
[20:56] <bdmurray> or whatever it is...
[20:57] <jibel> bdmurray, more precisely this comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/937196/comments/15 from mrand
[20:57] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1017001 in apt (Ubuntu Quantal) "duplicate for #937196 package resolvconf 1.63ubuntu14 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: pre-dependency problem - not installing resolvconf" [Critical,Confirmed]
[20:57] <jibel> and I just tried it in a VM
[20:58] <bdmurray> jibel: and I'm suggesting that apport-package bugs should have '/var/log/installer/media-info', 'InstallationMedia' added to them
[20:59] <jibel> but I think mythbuntu without updates is just one way to trigger the bug. There is probably a smaller set of packages with specific versions to install and still reproduce it.
[20:59] <bdmurray> that way one could more easily determine what initial image to start with
[21:00] <jibel> well, some of them have this info but not all. I see from the duplicates
[21:00] <jibel>  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu-Netbook 10.04 "Lucid Lynx" - Release i386 (20100429.4)
[21:00] <jibel>  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS "Lucid Lynx" - Release i386 (20100429)
[21:02] <bdmurray> jibel: right lp-bug-dupe-properties would help here
[21:03] <jibel> bdmurray, what is  lp-bug-dupe-properties ?
[21:03] <bdmurray> jibel: don't you read my blog‽ http://www.murraytwins.com/blog/?p=122
[21:05] <jibel> bdmurray, the problem is not reading blogs but remembering the contents :)
[21:05] <bdmurray> well surely that tool should have been memorable!
[21:05] <ScottK> Has anyone seen issues where upgrading 11.10 to 12.04 just stops in the middle?
[21:06] <ScottK> Installing new version of config file /etc/init.d/apparmor ...
[21:06] <ScottK>  * Starting AppArmor profiles
[21:06] <ScottK>    ...done.
[21:06] <ScottK>  * Reloading AppArmor profiles
[21:06] <ScottK>    ...done.
[21:06] <ScottK> Setting up bash-completion (1:1.3-1ubuntu8) ...
[21:06] <ScottK> Then crickets.
[21:07] <jibel> bdmurray, it is not in Quantal ?
[21:07] <jibel> I mean not in lptools available in Quantal
[21:08] <bdmurray> oh maybe nobody has uploaded it yet to quantal
[21:09] <jibel> such a memorable tools should be an Quantal
[21:09] <jibel> tool
[21:12] <ScottK> Nevermind.  Seems to be hardware related.
[21:26] <kanliot> any guidelines on reporting an intermittent bug?
[21:27] <kanliot> a lockup bug seems to happen intermittently
[21:27] <kanliot> not sure which process it is.... could be mplayer, or gnome-mplayer
[21:42] <balloons> kanliot, in precise or ?
[21:43] <kanliot> yeah precise.  wrong channeL?
[21:44] <balloons> well.. you may be better off asking in ubuntu-bugs.. however, the more you can do to narrow down what's happening the better
[21:44] <balloons> is the kernel locking up? a process? the desktop?
[21:44] <balloons> sorry.. I should get it right.. #ubuntu-bugs
[21:44] <kanliot> nope just the video
[21:44] <kanliot> which isnt' severe
[21:45] <balloons> what do you mean by video?
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[21:46] <kanliot> man can i raincheck this chat thx
[21:47] <balloons> kanliot, sure
[23:31] <kanliot> !bug 1037344 can someone check this over for accuracy in my bug report?
[23:31] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1037344 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "installation doesn't prompt for reboot after installing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1037344