[01:00] <gotwig> hey there
[01:01] <gotwig> are there people out that wanna checkout the new version my lens?
[01:01] <gotwig> especially interessting for people from Netherlands and the UK..
[01:01] <gotwig> http://code.launchpad.net/lens-cooking
[01:02] <gotwig> Python 3 - Ubuntu 12.10 Ready
[01:04] <gotwig> hey..
[09:06] <gotwig> hey there
[09:17] <gotwig> OwaisL: hey
[09:18] <OwaisL> gotwig: Hi
[09:38] <gotwig> do you port your code to python3?
[09:38] <gotwig> I ported today (1:00 AM till 2:00 AM) my unity lens/scopes
[12:38] <OwaisL> Hi, I just installed unity and friends from the staging ppa and I lost all the indicators. unity-panel-service is crashing on startup
[12:39] <OwaisL> is this a know issue?
[12:39] <OwaisL> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1148694/
[12:39] <popey> i just had the same here
[12:46] <SliMM> is there a way to dismiss notifications that are being displayed?
[13:35] <ingo__> Good afternoon ladies and gentlemem
[13:35] <ingo__> Question, what happens if I compile unity from trunk with USE_MODERN_COMPIZ_GL enabled?
[13:36] <ingo__> Seen all these reports related to that on Launchpad lately
[15:16] <ingo__> :(
[15:19] <Debolaz> Well I'd answer you if I actually knew. :-P
[15:26] <ingo__> :P
[15:43] <jokerdino> just filed another bug #1037164. Please verify. Thanks.
[16:10] <Andy80> how do I remove a "web app" from the Launcher? I answered "Yes" to OmgUbuntu integration when I visited the website with Fireforx and now I don't know how to remove it
[18:37] <davidcalle> mhr3, ping
[18:37] <mhr3> pong
[18:39] <davidcalle> mhr3, do you know how to fix org.compiz.unityshell not being installed? When I build Unity, everything works fine, but the panel fails at launch because of it. I also don't have indicators in a regular session, I suppose it's the same issue.
[18:40] <mhr3> there'll be some macro for that
[18:41] <mhr3> or maybe you need trunk compiz
[18:41] <mhr3> don't know really, works for me, sorry :)
[18:41] <davidcalle> mhr3, ok, thanks :)
[18:41] <mhr3> davidcalle, but if you're building what i think you are, there's a ppa
[18:42] <davidcalle> I'm building what you think I am
[18:44] <davidcalle> mhr3, I've seen some bits of it in staging, but not working yet, apparently needs a branch from gord to work.
[18:46] <mhr3> sounds about right
[18:46] <mhr3> it should land in the next day or two...
[19:47] <bobweaver> hello there I am altering my bfb and can not get other lens besides apps,pictures,videos,files,music but I def have more lens then that installed Image  http://imagebin.org/224668
[19:47] <bobweaver> maybee mimi or accesiblity ?
[19:49] <bobweaverstv> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1149400/   << Home.qml
[19:51] <bobweaver> Nevermind line 110 ^^
[19:51] <bobweaver> got it
[19:55] <bobweaverstv> http://imagebin.org/224669
[20:10] <gotwig> hey
[20:10] <gotwig> lense developers available?
[20:10] <gotwig> *lens
[20:11] <bobweaver> got wing I am new but I would say just ask
[20:12] <gotwig> haha
[20:12] <gotwig> ;P
[20:12] <gotwig> all my scopes dont work now
[20:12] <gotwig> :X
[20:12] <bobweaver> Oo
[20:12] <gotwig> I mean
[20:12] <gotwig> -..-
[20:12] <gotwig> the icons only dont work
[20:12] <gotwig> but across all my scopes
[20:12] <bobweaver> this is unity 3d or 2d ?
[20:12] <gotwig> *testing soon with my last
[20:13] <gotwig> unity3d
[20:13] <gotwig> unity 2d is not anymore supported at all
[20:13] <gotwig> *12.10
[20:13] <bobweaver> sorry can help dont know how to use unity3d there is no documention
[20:13] <gotwig> I ported my app to python3
[20:14] <bobweaver> or at least none that I have run accross that dont show you just how to build
[20:14] <gotwig> I really dont know what you mean
[20:14] <gotwig> ;P
[20:14] <bobweaver> ok 2d uses qml as a front end
[20:14] <gotwig> on which lens/scope are you workingß
[20:14] <gotwig> ?
[20:14] <gotwig> who cares about 2d anymore
[20:14] <gotwig> :/
[20:14] <gotwig> unity2d
[20:15] <bobweaver> all the people that where looking forward to ubuntu tv and ubuntu phone
[20:15] <bobweaver> thous are the [eople that care
[20:15] <bobweaver> people *
[20:16] <bobweaver> + changing a image lol   source: "../path/to/source" ;  done
[20:16] <bobweaver> that is it
[20:16] <gotwig> what do you do
[20:16] <bobweaver> I am un-employed
[20:18] <bobweaver> but by trade I am a mycologist
[20:19] <gotwig> I mean at ubuntu
[20:19] <gotwig> ;P
[20:19] <gotwig> I got famous in the community trough my lenses/scopes..
[20:20] <bobweaver> or at least that is what a 40 some thousand dollar piece of paper says
[20:20] <bobweaver> cool what lens ?
[20:20] <gotwig> Cooking Lens
[20:20] <bobweaver> Cool
[20:20] <gotwig> and thats the lens that has just now the icon error
[20:20] <gotwig> :X
[20:20] <gotwig> in the release..
[20:20] <gotwig> not good
[20:20] <bobweaver> you are on 12.10 I take it
[20:20] <gotwig> I am going to fix it till tomorow evening
[20:21] <gotwig> I have to "patch" my app for 12.10
[20:21] <gotwig> it already uses python3
[20:21] <bobweaver> gotwig, for real I am just a dude with alot time on his hands that loves ubuntu and I have made some ubuntu tv videos that kinda got some views
[20:22] <bobweaver> gotwig,  just a simple if statement correct
[20:22] <bobweaver> to chang to 3 X
[20:22] <bobweaver> change *
[20:23] <bobweaver> I mean I have spome personal scopes and have re-wrote ubuntu tv about we I don't couple pages , maybe 50 or so
[20:23] <bobweaver> like projectfreet
[20:23] <bobweaver> project free tv
[20:23] <bobweaver> it is just a scraper not api
[20:23] <gotwig> the unity2d version?
[20:24] <bobweaver> all api can be called withy XMLLIst Modal in unity 2d
[20:24] <gotwig> but ubuntu tv
[20:24] <bobweaver> source : "somesite/api/vlah blah "
[20:24] <gotwig> is going to be using
[20:24] <gotwig> unity3d
[20:24] <bobweaver> By me it will
[20:24] <gotwig> unity should just use mutter
[20:24] <gotwig> damn
[20:24] <bobweaver> and that is all tthat matters to me
[20:24] <bobweaver> I am right here awaiting instuctions 2 months now
[20:25] <bobweaver> on how I can help port
[20:25] <gotwig> the devs did hacky work
[20:25] <bobweaver> I have a stand alone version of Ubuntu tv on unity 6.5 nux 3
[20:25] <gotwig> bobweaver: there is something like a mailing list
[20:25] <bobweaver> but it is crappy and hud is well just a....
[20:25] <gotwig> I hate it
[20:25] <gotwig> that ubuntu uses compiz
[20:25] <gotwig> such a crappy thing IMHO
[20:26] <gotwig> they should create their own window manager like elementary
[20:26] <bobweaver> well with the great idea to take out things and add strut manages is a great idea lol
[20:26] <gotwig> with clutter as base
[20:26] <gotwig> but than they have to port all that stuff
[20:26] <bobweaver> I would rather port compiz into qt
[20:26] <gotwig> stupid...
[20:26] <mdeslaur> gotwig: you do know that unity originally used mutter, right?
[20:26] <gotwig> all is moving away
[20:26] <gotwig> from qt
[20:26] <bobweaver> 1page qml = 15 .c
[20:26] <bobweaver> .h
[20:27] <bobweaver> ect
[20:27] <gotwig> ?
[20:27] <gotwig> go to kde
[20:27] <gotwig> if you want qt
[20:27] <gotwig> ;P
[20:27] <bobweaver> like headers and cpp files
[20:27] <gotwig> but I dont like kde
[20:27] <bobweaver> there is nothing that I want
[20:27] <gotwig> too full featured somehow
[20:27] <bobweaver> I just use what is givin to me
[20:27] <gotwig> their own 'world'
[20:28] <gotwig> unity here runs well
[20:28] <gotwig> why have they dropped transparency (alpha channel) in icons in the dash?
[20:28] <mdeslaur> sorry, i meant clutter
[20:28] <bobweaver> gotwig,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMgQpS8F6_o         :P
[20:30] <gotwig> I know that well
[20:30] <bobweaver> just got done making the best bfb that anyone has for Ubuntu
[20:30] <gotwig> ;P
[20:30] <bobweaver> gotwig, that is me
[20:30] <gotwig> lol?
[20:30] <gotwig> great job
[20:31] <bobweaver> http://imagebin.org/224669 << best bfb ever !
[20:31] <bobweaver> lol
[20:31] <gotwig> I havent saw the new video
[20:31] <gotwig> yet
[20:31] <gotwig> I like the interface
[20:31] <bobweaver> I am going to relase a new one soon
[20:32] <bobweaver> like I made the bfb project free tv lens and scope pbs lens and scope (Qml) Ubuntu one and Mythtv intergration
[20:33] <gotwig> btw
[20:33] <bobweaver> and made nokia maps google (well better that is (search-a-ble same with the weather ))
[20:33] <gotwig> how are these scopes/lenses done?
[20:33] <gotwig> in ubuntu tv
[20:33] <bobweaver> you just call the api
[20:33] <gotwig> in unity3d you usally use python
[20:33] <bobweaver> you can still use python
[20:33] <gotwig> and send the stuff over DBus
[20:34] <bobweaver> project free tv is python
[20:34] <gotwig> no DBUs there?
[20:34] <bobweaver> you can alsio add dbus if you like
[20:34] <bobweaver> nope it just reads the xml live and renders
[20:35] <gotwig> seems easier
[20:35] <bobweaverstv> gotwig,  example http://paste.ubuntu.com/1149497/
[20:35] <bobweaverstv> that is to connect to tvdb (the tv database)
[20:35] <gotwig> nice
[20:36] <gotwig> bobweaverstv: why dont you fork
[20:36] <bobweaver> fork ?
[20:36] <gotwig> bobweaverstv: and do your own thing
[20:36] <gotwig> bobweaver: I mean if they move away from qt, but you like it, you can fork the thing ...
[20:36] <bobweaver> I am doing my own thing I just like Ubutnu
[20:37] <bobweaver> you can bet when there is a unity --force-tv I am all over it
[20:38] <gotwig> what ya mean?
[20:38] <bobweaver> I mean that there is no way in 3d to have spreat form factors like there is in unity 2d
[20:39] <gotwig> ah
[20:39] <gotwig> ok
[20:39] <bobweaver> if unityConfiuguration= tv :do this   elseif unity2dConfigueration = desktop do this elseif unity2dconfiguration = phone : do this
[20:39] <gotwig> unity3d is really hacky
[20:39] <bobweaver> then you set the gsettings data
[20:40] <bobweaver> that is it
[20:40] <gotwig> your whole thing
[20:40] <gotwig> looks really smooth
[20:40] <gotwig> :X
[20:41] <gotwig> oh ok
[20:41] <gotwig> I understand
[20:41] <gotwig> I already saw these options
[20:41] <gotwig> there are such options for unity3d
[20:41] <gotwig> notebook
[20:41] <gotwig> pc
[20:41] <gotwig> auto
[20:41] <gotwig> but they are not that advanced
[20:43] <gotwig> bobweaver: so if ubuntu tv gets ported to unity3d
[20:43] <gotwig> do you will look how to work with thatß
[20:43] <gotwig> nix/nux what ever, that library is under documented
[20:43] <gotwig> sry, there is no documentation at all.
[20:43] <gotwig> one askubuntu answer, awsom
[20:43] <bobweaver> there is little
[20:44] <bobweaver> and yes the minute that I hear anything I am all over it and in fact I will take screen shot of Ubuntu tv on 12.10 with unity
[20:44] <bobweaver> that I code myself
[20:46] <gotwig> ?
[20:46] <gotwig> your qt version :X?
[20:46] <gotwig> QT is awsom
[20:46] <gotwig> I tried much with vala, but it just is not the right thing
[20:47] <gotwig> wannabe objective code, that is, in the end, normal c code...
[20:47] <gotwig> welcome in the gtk world
[20:48] <bobweaver> http://imagebin.org/224676
[20:48] <bobweaver> I have 4.X up to 5.0
[20:49] <gotwig> bobweaver: how do you find xbmc?
[20:50] <bobweaver> yeah
[20:50] <bobweaver> oh I found xbmc with xbox and doing something to the orig xboxs
[20:50] <gotwig> :X?
[20:51] <bobweaver> but I am real new to myth and find there services api to be real nice
[20:51] <bobweaver> also tied in Usso with Mythweb
[20:53] <bobweaver> http://imagebin.org/224677
[20:54] <gotwig> lol
[20:55] <gotwig> bobweaver: are you on gmail xD?
[20:55] <bobweaver> see I can record anything I want at anytime that I want as long as I can get to browser
[20:55] <bobweaver> http://imagebin.org/224680
[20:56] <bobweaver> also watch on that browser also all recored and well all media that is registered
[20:58] <bobweaver> meaing anything Ubuntu One also
[20:59] <gotwig> U1 is closed source ;O
[21:00] <bobweaver> and watchseries and torents are also .....
[21:00] <bobweaver> project free tv ect
[21:00] <bobweaver> I am a 3rd party dev I do Not work for canonical
[21:10] <gotwig> i know
[21:10] <gotwig> are you a native english speaker?
[21:32]  * bobweaver has dyslexia 
[21:32] <bobweaver> and yeah I am  English talker
[21:33] <bobweaver> ahh cool looks cool harry
[21:33] <bobweaver> woops
[21:35]  * gotwig is awsom
[21:36] <mhr3> Trevinho, :O what do my eyes see in the merge emails?
[21:36] <mhr3> weak_refs are terribly ineffective
[21:37] <mhr3> their overuse will have very bad performance impact
[21:37] <mhr3> bschaefer, ^
[21:37] <bschaefer> mhr3, :(, worse then crashes?
[21:37] <bschaefer> hmm
[21:39] <mhr3> i'm not sure how much we use sig manager, if just here and there it's fine, if a lot then it's pretty bad
[21:39] <bschaefer> mhr3, would a shared ptr work better?
[21:39] <bschaefer> I think right now it is used here and there...but I think it will get used more
[21:40] <mhr3> bschaefer, i'm not sure what you want to achieve with shared_ptr
[21:41] <bschaefer> mhr3, yeah...idk. (Was trying to think how to replace the weak_ptr haha)
[21:41] <bschaefer> mhr3, Ill bring it up with Trevinho when he gets on later/tomorrow
[21:42] <mhr3> just don't turn unity into java pls :P
[21:42] <bschaefer> haha...but but java is sooo safe!
[21:43] <mhr3> and so many 3d engines are written in it
[21:43] <mhr3> oh wait...
[21:43] <bschaefer> haha :)
[21:47] <gotwig> JavaOS ftw
[21:47] <gotwig> Java®OS® , Oracle please dont sue me, I've got Penguins!