| FloatingGoat | hey | 00:42 |
|---|---|---|
| FloatingGoat | does ubuntu studio have | 00:42 |
| FloatingGoat | wubi | 00:42 |
| len-dt | FloatingGoat, do you mean on the ISO? | 00:52 |
| FloatingGoat | yeah yeah | 00:52 |
| FloatingGoat | I hav eno USB's | 00:52 |
| FloatingGoat | no DVD's | 00:52 |
| len-dt | Same as any Ubuntu. | 00:52 |
| FloatingGoat | and jack with regular ubuntu isnt | 00:52 |
| FloatingGoat | starting and its making me le mad | 00:53 |
| len-dt | Does it say why? | 00:53 |
| FloatingGoat | yeah | 00:53 |
| FloatingGoat | ill tell you | 00:53 |
| FloatingGoat | Tue Aug 14 19:53:52 2012: [1m[31mERROR: ALSA: Cannot open PCM device alsa_pcm for playback. Falling back to capture-only mode[0m Tue Aug 14 19:53:52 2012: [1m[31mERROR: Cannot initialize driver[0m Tue Aug 14 19:53:52 2012: [1m[31mERROR: JackServer::Open() failed with -1[0m Tue Aug 14 19:53:52 2012: [1m[31mERROR: Failed to open server[0m Tue Aug 14 19:53:54 2012: Saving settings to "/home/randy/.config/jack/conf.xml" ... | 00:54 |
| len-dt | have you tried different devices? | 00:55 |
| len-dt | Are you using qjackctl to start jack | 00:55 |
| FloatingGoat | yeah | 00:56 |
| FloatingGoat | different devices? | 00:56 |
| FloatingGoat | what do you mean | 00:56 |
| len-dt | da you have more than one card? | 00:56 |
| FloatingGoat | I dont think so | 00:57 |
| len-dt | in a terminal what does aplay -l print out? | 00:57 |
| FloatingGoat | card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 1: Generic_1 [HD-Audio Generic], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 | 00:57 |
| FloatingGoat | I think there are more than one | 00:59 |
| len-dt | weird... to me. You may be pointing at the wrong device. | 00:59 |
| len-dt | Oh yes, you have more than one. | 00:59 |
| len-dt | card 0:3 is your video out. | 01:00 |
| len-dt | card 1:0 looks like what you want. | 01:00 |
| FloatingGoat | how do i get that one lol | 01:00 |
| len-dt | On the left side of qjackctl there is a setup with wrench | 01:01 |
| len-dt | Click on that | 01:01 |
| len-dt | You will get the setup dialog | 01:01 |
| len-dt | on the right side there is an interface selection | 01:02 |
| len-dt | it probably says (default) | 01:02 |
| FloatingGoat | yeah | 01:02 |
| FloatingGoat | yeah | 01:02 |
| len-dt | There is a > button beside that. | 01:03 |
| len-dt | click on that | 01:03 |
| FloatingGoat | DUDE | 01:03 |
| FloatingGoat | WHAT IS THIS TRICKERY | 01:03 |
| len-dt | select hw 1:0 | 01:03 |
| FloatingGoat | okay i did that | 01:04 |
| FloatingGoat | and it still wont start | 01:04 |
| len-dt | The problem now is that you machine may boot different every time. So if it happens again check to see if your HW is now 0:0 | 01:04 |
| len-dt | Ok what does it say now? | 01:04 |
| FloatingGoat | JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 60 Tue Aug 14 20:04:51 2012: [1m[31mERROR: Cannot lock down 82246176 byte memory area (Cannot allocate memory)[0m Tue Aug 14 20:04:51 2012: control device hw:1 Tue Aug 14 20:04:51 2012: control device hw:1 Tue Aug 14 20:04:51 2012: [1m[31mERROR: Failed to acquire device name : Audio1 error : Cannot allocate memory[0m Tue Aug 14 20:04:51 2012: [1m[31mERROR: Audio device hw: | 01:05 |
| len-dt | Ok... from your terminal try : ls /etc/security/limits.d | 01:06 |
| len-dt | What file does it say is there? | 01:07 |
| FloatingGoat | taudio.conf audio.conf~ | 01:07 |
| len-dt | With the t in front or is that a typo? | 01:07 |
| FloatingGoat | typo | 01:07 |
| len-dt | Are you in the audio group? | 01:08 |
| len-dt | cat /etc/group |grep audio | 01:10 |
| len-dt | Your user name should be there | 01:10 |
| FloatingGoat | audio:x:29:pulse | 01:11 |
| FloatingGoat | thats all | 01:11 |
| len-dt | That makes sense. | 01:11 |
| FloatingGoat | am I in there? | 01:11 |
| len-dt | No | 01:12 |
| FloatingGoat | oh O.O | 01:12 |
| FloatingGoat | how do i get in there | 01:12 |
| len-dt | I am trying to think how the proper way to add you is? | 01:12 |
| FloatingGoat | hmm | 01:12 |
| FloatingGoat | take to google? | 01:12 |
| len-dt | ailo, do you remember how to put a user in audio group? | 01:12 |
| FloatingGoat | I think i know how! | 01:13 |
| FloatingGoat | no | 01:14 |
| len-dt | You can open system -> users and groups from the main menu | 01:14 |
| FloatingGoat | yeah thats what i though | 01:14 |
| len-dt | I will be back in two minutes | 01:15 |
| FloatingGoat | okay | 01:15 |
| FloatingGoat | brb | 01:18 |
| len-dt | I think advanced settings | 01:18 |
| len-dt | user privileges select "use audio devices" | 01:20 |
| FloatingGoat_ | THANK YOU SO MUCH! Yoo pretty much just saved my week! | 01:22 |
| FloatingGoat_ | it works now! | 01:22 |
| len-dt | Great. | 01:22 |
| FloatingGoat_ | you dont even know man | 01:24 |
| FloatingGoat_ | I live in ND | 01:24 |
| FloatingGoat_ | theres nothing to do here | 01:24 |
| FloatingGoat_ | but i love playing my guitar with jack | 01:25 |
| FloatingGoat_ | and it wasnt working | 01:25 |
| len-dt | Glad I could help. | 01:28 |
| len-dt | That is one of the things we had problems with in 11.10 I think. | 01:28 |
| len-dt | Ubuntustudio comes set up that way by default now. | 01:28 |
| FloatingGoat_ | alright | 01:30 |
| FloatingGoat_ | ill brb | 01:30 |
| ailo | len-dt: There are three ways. I usually use: 'sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER'. Another command I don't remember, and lastly, just adding the username to /etc/group | 01:36 |
| ailo | After audio, of course | 01:36 |
| len-dt | I didn't want someone hand editing... | 01:38 |
| len-dt | That is what I would have done though. | 01:38 |
| len-dt | We used the user utility in mainmenu->system | 01:39 |
| ailo | Vanilla Ubuntu, or rather, Gnome3 removed group administration from their user account manager | 01:39 |
| ailo | But, I guess that is still working fine in Xubuntu? | 01:39 |
| len-dt | Yeah, but it doesn't say "groups" | 01:40 |
| len-dt | I had a test user I could try it on.. | 01:40 |
| len-dt | ailo, ecasound installs timidity :P | 01:41 |
| * len-dt wanted to look at Nama | 01:41 | |
| ailo | I read the backscroll about Nama | 01:42 |
| ailo | Never thought about enabling blind people making audio | 01:42 |
| len-dt | timidity should be on our black list. | 01:42 |
| ailo | Why is that? | 01:42 |
| len-dt | It blocks both pulse and jack | 01:42 |
| ailo | After just installing it, or by running it? | 01:43 |
| len-dt | If it ever gets used. | 01:43 |
| ailo | Right now I'm reinstalling virtual versions of us for both archs. Had a problem with disk space | 01:44 |
| len-dt | someone is running a mid player on a long mid file and tries to do anything | 01:44 |
| ailo | hmm, never tried it | 01:44 |
| ailo | But I remember sometime seeing timidity in the alsa midi tab in qjackctl | 01:44 |
| len-dt | I removed it | 01:44 |
| len-dt | but it is still in the audio group :) | 01:45 |
| ailo | It adds itself to audio group during installation? | 01:45 |
| len-dt | Yes. | 01:45 |
| len-dt | it is listed after my user | 01:45 |
| ailo | That was something I suggested for the debian jackd package, but the consensus was that it was a bad idea | 01:46 |
| ailo | I tended to agree with that in the end | 01:46 |
| ailo | It would solve the whole realtime privilege problem though | 01:46 |
| ailo | This was on jack dev list, and on debian multimedia list | 01:47 |
| len-dt | I think a remote user could gain access | 01:47 |
| ailo | it wasn't because of security concerbns | 01:48 |
| ailo | jackd already asks the user whether to use realtime or not | 01:48 |
| ailo | the audio group would just be the missing link to making that choice, since doing that now is not making it happen | 01:48 |
| ailo | It works on debian though | 01:49 |
| ailo | On debian, the user is already a member of audio group | 01:49 |
| ailo | By default | 01:49 |
| len-dt | Any user? or just installing user? | 01:49 |
| ailo | It's a default group for all users | 01:49 |
| len-dt | I think Slackware used to be that way too. | 01:49 |
| ailo | But, now, PA is using audio group (I think) | 01:50 |
| len-dt | Yes. | 01:50 |
| ailo | But jackd only uses it to gain access to realtime privilege. | 01:50 |
| ailo | So, there should be another group added: realtime | 01:50 |
| ailo | Currently, firewire needs the audio group for permissions too | 01:51 |
| len-dt | I'll leave that for someone else to figure | 01:51 |
| ailo | I think it seems a little messy | 01:51 |
| ailo | Problem occurs on Ubuntu based systems | 01:51 |
| ailo | People install jackd, and they don't get realtime | 01:51 |
| ailo | It's a drag | 01:52 |
| len-dt | Have you looked at pulse 2.1 | 01:52 |
| ailo | nope | 01:52 |
| len-dt | Supposed to be in Quanal | 01:52 |
| ailo | Something weird about the linux image source | 01:53 |
| ailo | The tarball can't be unpacked, cause there's something about symbolic links | 01:53 |
| len-dt | 3.4, 3.5 or? | 01:53 |
| ailo | 3.5 | 01:53 |
| ailo | I solved it by installing linux-source | 01:53 |
| ailo | Which installes the source into /usr/src/ | 01:54 |
| ailo | Also, there's the git source | 01:54 |
| ailo | I tell you, with all my computer problems, and all kinds of weird little obstacles, I haven't got anything done in a week almost | 01:54 |
| len-dt | Isn't that where it is supposed to be? Or are you trying to build more than one in diffeerent directory. | 01:54 |
| ailo | You can get the source to any package by doing: apt-get source <package> | 01:55 |
| ailo | As a user | 01:55 |
| ailo | linux-source is a package too | 01:55 |
| ailo | So, not the same thing | 01:55 |
| ailo | sudo apt-get install linux-source | 01:56 |
| len-dt | Ya, but you don't want to build it for that machine, so you want it somewhere else | 01:56 |
| ailo | Because of multiple problems, and trying to save some time, I'm making scripts to build multiple kernels for one arch at a time, using that arch for building | 01:56 |
| len-dt | It has been a long time since I built a kernel... before 2000 I think. | 01:57 |
| ailo | I'm planning on sleeping when the computer works, and hoping it's all done in the morning | 01:57 |
| len-dt | I remember having to have a "big" 20meg swap because 4meg ram wasn't enough | 01:58 |
| ailo | I just got 8GB RAM. Was running out of my 3GB quite often recently | 01:59 |
| ailo | Have space for 32 on this MB | 01:59 |
| len-dt | My max is 4 but I have 2.5 | 02:00 |
| ailo | 512kb was kind of the norm for a while in the 80's | 02:00 |
| len-dt | I think I started Linux in early 90s | 02:01 |
| ailo | I think I tried it when I got my first PC, at around 2002, but since I wasn't really interested in computers, until a bit later, had no reason to get into it | 02:02 |
| len-dt | Yggdrasil... then slackware | 02:02 |
| len-dt | The first one even came with a "live"cd (and a floppy to start befoe that) | 02:03 |
| ailo | Didn't know they had live cd's already back then | 02:03 |
| len-dt | The live cd even had X on it. | 02:04 |
| ailo | Pretty state of the art | 02:04 |
| len-dt | It normally took two tries to get X going becasue it would time out with the time it took to get most of it into swap | 02:04 |
| len-dt | The second time most of it was already there... | 02:05 |
| len-dt | X needed 8 Meg ram/swap | 02:05 |
| len-dt | 4Meg of ram was $400 | 02:05 |
| ailo | Got my first usb3 memory stick now as well, since I have usb3 on my new MB | 02:07 |
| ailo | Read speed is fast, but writing is still not too fancy | 02:08 |
| len-dt | How is it compared to a mechanical drive? | 02:08 |
| ailo | I read that linus has a system at home, which takes him something like 8 secs to build a kernel | 02:08 |
| ailo | I think SSD's are a lot faster then this usb stick | 02:09 |
| ailo | It wasn't the cheapest, but not that expensive either. Memory has really dropped in price this last couple of years | 02:09 |
| ailo | Takes me a bit less than an hour to build one kernel | 02:10 |
| len-dt | Sounds good. I am busy for bit... | 02:29 |
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| smartboyhw | Hi! | 04:15 |
| arunkumar413 | when is visit the site https://staging.ubuntustudio.org/tour/video/ firefox says the connection is untrusted | 07:51 |
| smartboyhw | !install | 10:43 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate | 10:43 |
| * smartboyhw waves at MOSMarauder | 12:17 | |
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| cbx33 | hey guys | 17:26 |
| cbx33 | is there a decent virtual midi keyboard, that i can play with the computer keyboard? | 17:27 |
| len-dt | There are two... I am not sure you would call them "decent" but they do work. | 17:28 |
| len-dt | there is the virtual midi keyboard and jack keyboard | 17:29 |
| len-dt | cbx33, the first outputs it's signal to alsa midi and the second to jack midi | 17:30 |
| cbx33 | can alsa midi hook up to jack midi? | 17:31 |
| cbx33 | as that's what I need | 17:31 |
| len-dt | use a2j | 17:31 |
| cbx33 | a2j | 17:31 |
| cbx33 | ok | 17:31 |
| cbx33 | lemme try | 17:31 |
| len-dt | It makes all alsa i/os available in jack | 17:31 |
| cbx33 | nice | 17:32 |
| len-dt | You may have to start it as a2jmidid and probably want the -e switch | 17:32 |
| len-dt | The -e switch pulls the external ports too | 17:32 |
| cbx33 | nope a2j worked fine | 17:33 |
| cbx33 | that's sweet | 17:33 |
| cbx33 | are there any good free lv2 synths? | 17:34 |
| cbx33 | long and the short of it, I used to run mainly with hardware, I had a Korg X5D and a few lexicon and behringer rack units | 17:34 |
| cbx33 | but i want to do everything I can on PC now | 17:34 |
| len-dt | I am not the person to ask. I know there are some, but good is a metter of taste | 17:34 |
| cbx33 | what do you use ubuntu studio for? | 17:34 |
| cbx33 | last thing I used it for was doing the ubuntu start up sound in edgy :p | 17:35 |
| len-dt | I am a guitarist/bass player. | 17:35 |
| cbx33 | sweet | 17:35 |
| cbx33 | do you use any LADSPA effects? | 17:35 |
| cbx33 | record much? | 17:35 |
| len-dt | don't record much, but I like guitarix | 17:35 |
| len-dt | I found out that I play so much better when I have an audience to play off of and some other players to sync with | 17:36 |
| len-dt | So I am mostly a live player. | 17:36 |
| cbx33 | ahhh i totally agre with you | 17:36 |
| cbx33 | i play drums/guitar and keyboard | 17:36 |
| cbx33 | recently only drums really | 17:37 |
| cbx33 | and I play SOOOO much better with other mucisicans | 17:37 |
| len-dt | I have not yet been happy with any recordings I have attempted. | 17:37 |
| moonshiner24mUK | im having troubles with a keystudio keyboard.. | 17:45 |
| moonshiner24mUK | is there an alsa-midi monitoring program.. | 17:46 |
| moonshiner24mUK | so a greenlight when it recieves a signal | 17:46 |
| len-dt | moonshiner24mUK, can you give me more details? | 17:46 |
| len-dt | qmidiroute includes some midi monitoring. | 17:46 |
| moonshiner24mUK | sure, i plug it in and am synth does nothing | 17:46 |
| len-dt | What do you think it should do? have you routed it to anything? | 17:47 |
| cbx33 | anyone use any midi keyboard controllers on linux? | 17:53 |
| cbx33 | if so, what :) | 17:53 |
| len-dt | cbx33, I happen to use an old DX7 | 17:54 |
| cbx33 | heh | 17:54 |
| cbx33 | I'm looking at the Alesis QX49 | 17:54 |
| cbx33 | nice as it has faders too | 17:54 |
| cbx33 | but I don't know whether it works under linux.... | 17:54 |
| cbx33 | can you teach ardour to use midi for the faders? | 17:54 |
| len-dt | Most USB KBs should show up in qjackctl's alsa panel | 17:54 |
| len-dt | As far as I know... ask on #ardour for better answer, it should. | 17:54 |
| cbx33 | ok awesome I'll try that | 17:54 |
| len-dt | cbx33, what I do personally is take my netbook to the music store and try it in the store | 17:55 |
| cbx33 | yeh, I was gonna buy online | 17:55 |
| cbx33 | we don't have a lot of stores here | 17:55 |
| len-dt | Same here, but the one from a bigger chain is pretty good about such things | 17:55 |
| moonshiner24mUK | sorry, coffee break | 17:56 |
| moonshiner24mUK | back though | 17:56 |
| moonshiner24mUK | i need a way of testing that the keyboard is work. | 17:57 |
| moonshiner24mUK | easiest way of getting a sound out of this thing? | 17:57 |
| len-dt | Oh ya moonshiner24mUK, I was asking how you routed it. | 17:57 |
| moonshiner24mUK | jack | 17:57 |
| moonshiner24mUK | jack in to through out | 17:58 |
| moonshiner24mUK | im thinkiong that what jack does is awsome | 17:58 |
| moonshiner24mUK | but how it does it sux | 17:58 |
| len-dt | amsynth uses jack midi? | 17:58 |
| moonshiner24mUK | for now can i test it in a alsa midi app? | 17:58 |
| moonshiner24mUK | it can do | 17:59 |
| len-dt | Yes | 17:59 |
| moonshiner24mUK | but on alsa it makes no sound | 17:59 |
| len-dt | Ok, if I start hexter in standalone, it has its output connected to jack out and the input is unconnected in the alsa patch | 18:00 |
| moonshiner24mUK | is there any app with a midi blinking light to say that its recieving a midi signal | 18:00 |
| len-dt | I'd have to look at them all? | 18:01 |
| len-dt | Hyrdro gen does but it is hard to set up for midi in. | 18:01 |
| len-dt | qmidiroute has an event log window | 18:03 |
| moonshiner24mUK | ithankyou.. hydrogen is best for alsa debugging | 18:03 |
| moonshiner24mUK | fired up | 18:03 |
| moonshiner24mUK | selected alsa input and i was away! | 18:03 |
| moonshiner24mUK | to get am synth running, i need to point to my OSS device... which sux | 18:07 |
| len-dt | What does amsynth have that other synths don't? | 18:08 |
| moonshiner24mUK | what would it be called. its somewhere in the dev folder | 18:08 |
| moonshiner24mUK | visa vi - an alsa midi device selection box | 18:09 |
| len-dt | I am not sure, OSS is not something I have used for a long time | 18:09 |
| moonshiner24mUK | ok, otherwise a AM synth how to? | 18:09 |
| moonshiner24mUK | confirmed working keyboard | 18:09 |
| len-dt | amsynth's web page says it should work with "OSS, ALSA and JACK for Audio / MIDI I/O" | 18:11 |
| len-dt | moonshiner24mUK, OSS devices are /dev/dsp0 to /dev/dsp* depending on how many you have? | 18:17 |
| len-dt | check out http://manuals.opensound.com/developer/oss_devices.html | 18:20 |
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| cbx33 | how do people here save/load their sessions these days | 20:00 |
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