[00:42] hey [00:42] does ubuntu studio have [00:42] wubi [00:52] FloatingGoat, do you mean on the ISO? [00:52] yeah yeah [00:52] I hav eno USB's [00:52] no DVD's [00:52] Same as any Ubuntu. [00:52] and jack with regular ubuntu isnt [00:53] starting and its making me le mad [00:53] Does it say why? [00:53] yeah [00:53] ill tell you [00:54] Tue Aug 14 19:53:52 2012: [1m[31mERROR: ALSA: Cannot open PCM device alsa_pcm for playback. Falling back to capture-only mode[0m Tue Aug 14 19:53:52 2012: [1m[31mERROR: Cannot initialize driver[0m Tue Aug 14 19:53:52 2012: [1m[31mERROR: JackServer::Open() failed with -1[0m Tue Aug 14 19:53:52 2012: [1m[31mERROR: Failed to open server[0m Tue Aug 14 19:53:54 2012: Saving settings to "/home/randy/.config/jack/conf.xml" ... [00:55] have you tried different devices? [00:55] Are you using qjackctl to start jack [00:56] yeah [00:56] different devices? [00:56] what do you mean [00:56] da you have more than one card? [00:57] I dont think so [00:57] in a terminal what does aplay -l print out? [00:57] card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 1: Generic_1 [HD-Audio Generic], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 [00:59] I think there are more than one [00:59] weird... to me. You may be pointing at the wrong device. [00:59] Oh yes, you have more than one. [01:00] card 0:3 is your video out. [01:00] card 1:0 looks like what you want. [01:00] how do i get that one lol [01:01] On the left side of qjackctl there is a setup with wrench [01:01] Click on that [01:01] You will get the setup dialog [01:02] on the right side there is an interface selection [01:02] it probably says (default) [01:02] yeah [01:02] yeah [01:03] There is a > button beside that. [01:03] click on that [01:03] DUDE [01:03] WHAT IS THIS TRICKERY [01:03] select hw 1:0 [01:04] okay i did that [01:04] and it still wont start [01:04] The problem now is that you machine may boot different every time. So if it happens again check to see if your HW is now 0:0 [01:04] Ok what does it say now? [01:05] JACK server starting in realtime mode with priority 60 Tue Aug 14 20:04:51 2012: [1m[31mERROR: Cannot lock down 82246176 byte memory area (Cannot allocate memory)[0m Tue Aug 14 20:04:51 2012: control device hw:1 Tue Aug 14 20:04:51 2012: control device hw:1 Tue Aug 14 20:04:51 2012: [1m[31mERROR: Failed to acquire device name : Audio1 error : Cannot allocate memory[0m Tue Aug 14 20:04:51 2012: [1m[31mERROR: Audio device hw: [01:06] Ok... from your terminal try : ls /etc/security/limits.d [01:07] What file does it say is there? [01:07] taudio.conf audio.conf~ [01:07] With the t in front or is that a typo? [01:07] typo [01:08] Are you in the audio group? [01:10] cat /etc/group |grep audio [01:10] Your user name should be there [01:11] audio:x:29:pulse [01:11] thats all [01:11] That makes sense. [01:11] am I in there? [01:12] No [01:12] oh O.O [01:12] how do i get in there [01:12] I am trying to think how the proper way to add you is? [01:12] hmm [01:12] take to google? [01:12] ailo, do you remember how to put a user in audio group? [01:13] I think i know how! [01:14] no [01:14] You can open system -> users and groups from the main menu [01:14] yeah thats what i though [01:15] I will be back in two minutes [01:15] okay [01:18] brb [01:18] I think advanced settings [01:20] user privileges select "use audio devices" [01:22] THANK YOU SO MUCH! Yoo pretty much just saved my week! [01:22] it works now! [01:22] Great. [01:24] you dont even know man [01:24] I live in ND [01:24] theres nothing to do here [01:25] but i love playing my guitar with jack [01:25] and it wasnt working [01:28] Glad I could help. [01:28] That is one of the things we had problems with in 11.10 I think. [01:28] Ubuntustudio comes set up that way by default now. [01:30] alright [01:30] ill brb [01:36] len-dt: There are three ways. I usually use: 'sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER'. Another command I don't remember, and lastly, just adding the username to /etc/group [01:36] After audio, of course [01:38] I didn't want someone hand editing... [01:38] That is what I would have done though. [01:39] We used the user utility in mainmenu->system [01:39] Vanilla Ubuntu, or rather, Gnome3 removed group administration from their user account manager [01:39] But, I guess that is still working fine in Xubuntu? [01:40] Yeah, but it doesn't say "groups" [01:40] I had a test user I could try it on.. [01:41] ailo, ecasound installs timidity :P [01:41] * len-dt wanted to look at Nama [01:42] I read the backscroll about Nama [01:42] Never thought about enabling blind people making audio [01:42] timidity should be on our black list. [01:42] Why is that? [01:42] It blocks both pulse and jack [01:43] After just installing it, or by running it? [01:43] If it ever gets used. [01:44] Right now I'm reinstalling virtual versions of us for both archs. Had a problem with disk space [01:44] someone is running a mid player on a long mid file and tries to do anything [01:44] hmm, never tried it [01:44] But I remember sometime seeing timidity in the alsa midi tab in qjackctl [01:44] I removed it [01:45] but it is still in the audio group :) [01:45] It adds itself to audio group during installation? [01:45] Yes. [01:45] it is listed after my user [01:46] That was something I suggested for the debian jackd package, but the consensus was that it was a bad idea [01:46] I tended to agree with that in the end [01:46] It would solve the whole realtime privilege problem though [01:47] This was on jack dev list, and on debian multimedia list [01:47] I think a remote user could gain access [01:48] it wasn't because of security concerbns [01:48] jackd already asks the user whether to use realtime or not [01:48] the audio group would just be the missing link to making that choice, since doing that now is not making it happen [01:49] It works on debian though [01:49] On debian, the user is already a member of audio group [01:49] By default [01:49] Any user? or just installing user? [01:49] It's a default group for all users [01:49] I think Slackware used to be that way too. [01:50] But, now, PA is using audio group (I think) [01:50] Yes. [01:50] But jackd only uses it to gain access to realtime privilege. [01:50] So, there should be another group added: realtime [01:51] Currently, firewire needs the audio group for permissions too [01:51] I'll leave that for someone else to figure [01:51] I think it seems a little messy [01:51] Problem occurs on Ubuntu based systems [01:51] People install jackd, and they don't get realtime [01:52] It's a drag [01:52] Have you looked at pulse 2.1 [01:52] nope [01:52] Supposed to be in Quanal [01:53] Something weird about the linux image source [01:53] The tarball can't be unpacked, cause there's something about symbolic links [01:53] 3.4, 3.5 or? [01:53] 3.5 [01:53] I solved it by installing linux-source [01:54] Which installes the source into /usr/src/ [01:54] Also, there's the git source [01:54] I tell you, with all my computer problems, and all kinds of weird little obstacles, I haven't got anything done in a week almost [01:54] Isn't that where it is supposed to be? Or are you trying to build more than one in diffeerent directory. [01:55] You can get the source to any package by doing: apt-get source [01:55] As a user [01:55] linux-source is a package too [01:55] So, not the same thing [01:56] sudo apt-get install linux-source [01:56] Ya, but you don't want to build it for that machine, so you want it somewhere else [01:56] Because of multiple problems, and trying to save some time, I'm making scripts to build multiple kernels for one arch at a time, using that arch for building [01:57] It has been a long time since I built a kernel... before 2000 I think. [01:57] I'm planning on sleeping when the computer works, and hoping it's all done in the morning [01:58] I remember having to have a "big" 20meg swap because 4meg ram wasn't enough [01:59] I just got 8GB RAM. Was running out of my 3GB quite often recently [01:59] Have space for 32 on this MB [02:00] My max is 4 but I have 2.5 [02:00] 512kb was kind of the norm for a while in the 80's [02:01] I think I started Linux in early 90s [02:02] I think I tried it when I got my first PC, at around 2002, but since I wasn't really interested in computers, until a bit later, had no reason to get into it [02:02] Yggdrasil... then slackware [02:03] The first one even came with a "live"cd (and a floppy to start befoe that) [02:03] Didn't know they had live cd's already back then [02:04] The live cd even had X on it. [02:04] Pretty state of the art [02:04] It normally took two tries to get X going becasue it would time out with the time it took to get most of it into swap [02:05] The second time most of it was already there... [02:05] X needed 8 Meg ram/swap [02:05] 4Meg of ram was $400 [02:07] Got my first usb3 memory stick now as well, since I have usb3 on my new MB [02:08] Read speed is fast, but writing is still not too fancy [02:08] How is it compared to a mechanical drive? [02:08] I read that linus has a system at home, which takes him something like 8 secs to build a kernel [02:09] I think SSD's are a lot faster then this usb stick [02:09] It wasn't the cheapest, but not that expensive either. Memory has really dropped in price this last couple of years [02:10] Takes me a bit less than an hour to build one kernel [02:29] Sounds good. I am busy for bit... === holstein_ is now known as holstein [04:15] Hi! [07:51] when is visit the site https://staging.ubuntustudio.org/tour/video/ firefox says the connection is untrusted [10:43] !install [10:43] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [12:17] * smartboyhw waves at MOSMarauder === smartboyhw is now known as silly_cloudysunn === silly_cloudysunn is now known as smartboyhw === smartboyhw is now known as ubuntustudio-hw === ubuntustudio-hw is now known as smartboyhw === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw_us [17:26] hey guys [17:27] is there a decent virtual midi keyboard, that i can play with the computer keyboard? [17:28] There are two... I am not sure you would call them "decent" but they do work. [17:29] there is the virtual midi keyboard and jack keyboard [17:30] cbx33, the first outputs it's signal to alsa midi and the second to jack midi [17:31] can alsa midi hook up to jack midi? [17:31] as that's what I need [17:31] use a2j [17:31] a2j [17:31] ok [17:31] lemme try [17:31] It makes all alsa i/os available in jack [17:32] nice [17:32] You may have to start it as a2jmidid and probably want the -e switch [17:32] The -e switch pulls the external ports too [17:33] nope a2j worked fine [17:33] that's sweet [17:34] are there any good free lv2 synths? [17:34] long and the short of it, I used to run mainly with hardware, I had a Korg X5D and a few lexicon and behringer rack units [17:34] but i want to do everything I can on PC now [17:34] I am not the person to ask. I know there are some, but good is a metter of taste [17:34] what do you use ubuntu studio for? [17:35] last thing I used it for was doing the ubuntu start up sound in edgy :p [17:35] I am a guitarist/bass player. [17:35] sweet [17:35] do you use any LADSPA effects? [17:35] record much? [17:35] don't record much, but I like guitarix [17:36] I found out that I play so much better when I have an audience to play off of and some other players to sync with [17:36] So I am mostly a live player. [17:36] ahhh i totally agre with you [17:36] i play drums/guitar and keyboard [17:37] recently only drums really [17:37] and I play SOOOO much better with other mucisicans [17:37] I have not yet been happy with any recordings I have attempted. [17:45] im having troubles with a keystudio keyboard.. [17:46] is there an alsa-midi monitoring program.. [17:46] so a greenlight when it recieves a signal [17:46] moonshiner24mUK, can you give me more details? [17:46] qmidiroute includes some midi monitoring. [17:46] sure, i plug it in and am synth does nothing [17:47] What do you think it should do? have you routed it to anything? [17:53] anyone use any midi keyboard controllers on linux? [17:53] if so, what :) [17:54] cbx33, I happen to use an old DX7 [17:54] heh [17:54] I'm looking at the Alesis QX49 [17:54] nice as it has faders too [17:54] but I don't know whether it works under linux.... [17:54] can you teach ardour to use midi for the faders? [17:54] Most USB KBs should show up in qjackctl's alsa panel [17:54] As far as I know... ask on #ardour for better answer, it should. [17:54] ok awesome I'll try that [17:55] cbx33, what I do personally is take my netbook to the music store and try it in the store [17:55] yeh, I was gonna buy online [17:55] we don't have a lot of stores here [17:55] Same here, but the one from a bigger chain is pretty good about such things [17:56] sorry, coffee break [17:56] back though [17:57] i need a way of testing that the keyboard is work. [17:57] easiest way of getting a sound out of this thing? [17:57] Oh ya moonshiner24mUK, I was asking how you routed it. [17:57] jack [17:58] jack in to through out [17:58] im thinkiong that what jack does is awsome [17:58] but how it does it sux [17:58] amsynth uses jack midi? [17:58] for now can i test it in a alsa midi app? [17:59] it can do [17:59] Yes [17:59] but on alsa it makes no sound [18:00] Ok, if I start hexter in standalone, it has its output connected to jack out and the input is unconnected in the alsa patch [18:00] is there any app with a midi blinking light to say that its recieving a midi signal [18:01] I'd have to look at them all? [18:01] Hyrdro gen does but it is hard to set up for midi in. [18:03] qmidiroute has an event log window [18:03] ithankyou.. hydrogen is best for alsa debugging [18:03] fired up [18:03] selected alsa input and i was away! [18:07] to get am synth running, i need to point to my OSS device... which sux [18:08] What does amsynth have that other synths don't? [18:08] what would it be called. its somewhere in the dev folder [18:09] visa vi - an alsa midi device selection box [18:09] I am not sure, OSS is not something I have used for a long time [18:09] ok, otherwise a AM synth how to? [18:09] confirmed working keyboard [18:11] amsynth's web page says it should work with "OSS, ALSA and JACK for Audio / MIDI I/O" [18:17] moonshiner24mUK, OSS devices are /dev/dsp0 to /dev/dsp* depending on how many you have? [18:20] check out http://manuals.opensound.com/developer/oss_devices.html === dutchie_ is now known as dutchie [20:00] how do people here save/load their sessions these days === holstein_ is now known as holstein