| JontheEchidna | yay, knights made a release for the KDE 4.9 kdegames api | 00:16 |
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| JontheEchidna | libkdegames5a is the last KDE package on the NBS list, too :) | 00:29 |
| CIA-41 | [ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120816012351-y2i25asak7dm5kxj * debian/changelog New upstream release candidate (LP: #1021966) | 01:24 |
| JontheEchidna | Muon/LibQApt 1.4.0 releases likely to happen tomorrow (well, probably today if you're going by UTC) :) | 02:02 |
| === valorie_ is now known as valorie | ||
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: so for gambas2 irt the Qt3 removal, Debian's dropped it from sid: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=672778 | 04:06 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 672778 in ftp.debian.org "RM: gambas2 -- RoM; obsolete" [Normal,Open] | 04:06 |
| JontheEchidna | so I think it's a candidate for removal | 04:06 |
| JontheEchidna | the Ubuntu delta seems to be just getting it to still build | 04:07 |
| JontheEchidna | g'night | 04:08 |
| === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok | ||
| jussi | MOrning all | 05:43 |
| debfx | JontheEchidna: myunity depends on gambas2 | 06:15 |
| jussi | SO, can anyone tell me where we have kde telepathy latest version hiding? | 06:18 |
| debfx | quantal? | 06:20 |
| jussi | debfx: nah, precise | 06:48 |
| jussi | kopete has this segfault issues... | 06:49 |
| debfx | jussi: https://launchpad.net/~telepathy-kde/+archive/ppa | 06:50 |
| jussi | debfx: ahh, thank you. | 06:51 |
| jussi | hrm... this is weird | 06:53 |
| jussi | I added the ppa, updated, but it still doesnt see "meta-kde-telepathy" | 06:54 |
| jussi | or what package should I be installing? | 06:55 |
| debfx | kde-telepathy | 06:56 |
| debfx | meta-kde-telepathy is just the source package name | 06:57 |
| jussi | debfx: I guessed that, thanks :) | 07:13 |
| jussi | hrrr | 07:22 |
| jussi | so I get to choose between segfaults or only joining rooms without passwords... | 07:23 |
| jussi | back to pidgin I guess :/ | 07:23 |
| Riddell | jussi01: what protocol is that you need rooms with passwords on? | 08:04 |
| jussi | Riddell: jabber | 08:05 |
| Riddell | jussi: have you checked with d_ed you're not just missing something? | 08:05 |
| jussi | Riddell: I have not - I did ask in #kde-telepathy, but no real answer | 08:06 |
| jussi | d_ed: do you have any advice for me? | 08:06 |
| Riddell | ScottK: print-manager compiled in ~jr incase you missed it | 09:32 |
| jussi | Riddell: seems as the pw thing isnt implemented... | 09:35 |
| debfx | Riddell: if you've got some time to sponsor: I've prepared a cmake merge/new upstream version: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/cmake_2.8.9-0ubuntu1.dsc | 09:36 |
| Riddell | jussi: hum, disappointing | 09:39 |
| Riddell | debfx: lovely | 09:39 |
| jussi | Riddell: Im talking with d_ed now about getting it done | 09:39 |
| jussi | Riddell: so we need a password protected room to test on, if you have anything that you can point us to... | 09:44 |
| Riddell | jussi: I'm afraid I've never used jabber | 09:51 |
| jussi | Riddell: np | 09:52 |
| debfx | jussi: can't you just create one with pidgin? | 09:53 |
| jussi | debfx: I dont know jabber that well.. if you want to help, perhaps you can join us in #kde-telepathy | 09:55 |
| apol_ | the kdevelop-php package should install kdevelop-php-docs too... | 10:27 |
| Riddell | apol_: ok I'll add that now | 10:29 |
| Riddell | good timing I'm just doing kdevelop | 10:29 |
| apol_ | :D | 10:29 |
| apol_ | Riddell: the plan in the future is to release those two in the same tarball in the future | 10:29 |
| apol_ | so if we can get those as much depending from each other possible, the better | 10:30 |
| apol_ | it's not really useful to use them apart | 10:30 |
| debfx | less tarballs \o/ | 10:30 |
| apol_ | debfx: is that sarcasm? :P | 10:31 |
| debfx | no! | 10:31 |
| apol_ | xD ok | 10:33 |
| debfx | the tarball separation that came with the git migration in KDE is madness | 10:33 |
| apol_ | debfx: well, developers are doing what packagers were doing already, but upstream | 10:33 |
| apol_ | it kind of makes sense :P | 10:33 |
| Riddell | there's advantages and disadvantages | 10:36 |
| debfx | well yeah it depends | 10:36 |
| debfx | for example kde telepathy splitting up essential component imho doesn't make sense | 10:37 |
| * apol_ kind of agrees | 10:37 | |
| apol_ | but they are happy like that | 10:37 |
| Riddell | apol_: mm what is "/usr/bin/kdevelop!" ? | 10:38 |
| apol_ | (or we are xD I've sent quite some contributions tehre already ) | 10:38 |
| apol_ | Riddell: it's to integrate kdevelop with a shell | 10:38 |
| apol_ | as in it defines some functions so that !openfile blah will open blah in a said kdevelop instance | 10:39 |
| Riddell | mm ok, ! seems like a troublesome character to have in a binary, bash likes to do things with exclamation marks | 10:40 |
| Riddell | but I'll add it to the kdevelop package alongside kdevelop itself | 10:40 |
| apol_ | yes please do | 10:40 |
| d__ed | (FWIW, the KTP splitting things up was the decision of the original leader. I wouldn't say we're all happy with it. | 10:41 |
| d__ed | just not unhappy enough to bother changing it. | 10:41 |
| d__ed | ) | 10:41 |
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| JontheEchidna | debfx: pesky third-parties | 11:14 |
| Riddell | apol: nice new plasma bling in kdevelop | 11:25 |
| apol | :) | 11:25 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| Riddell | time to clear out Kubuntu Beta Backports for precise ready for kdevelo | 11:30 |
| debfx | JontheEchidna: indeed, but we can probably just rip out qt3 support in gambas | 11:43 |
| Riddell | bug 1037148 | 13:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1037148 in kubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "Obsolete Documentation on Kubuntu Feature Tour" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1037148 | 13:12 |
| Riddell | at last an offer to update the website tour | 13:13 |
| Riddell | alas I've no idea where the website theme is held | 13:13 |
| Riddell | https://code.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website-staging or https://code.launchpad.net/kubuntu-website seem likely but I don't know which | 13:13 |
| Riddell | apachelogger_: I don't suppose you remember? | 13:13 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Who designed the current theme, Darkwing? | 13:13 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: ofirk | 13:15 |
| ryanakca | -staging was all of Ofir's work. | 13:15 |
| ryanakca | /kubuntu-website contains my old themes, the wiki theme and some random old website stuff which I'm guessing was the original www.k.o you maintained. | 13:16 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: I think this is what you're looking for: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~klinger-ofir/kubuntu-website-staging/release-1.0/view/head:/page-node-10.tpl.php | 13:18 |
| Riddell | mm thanks ryanakca | 13:19 |
| Riddell | goodness knows why he put content into the theme | 13:19 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Thanks. I"ll have a look. | 13:21 |
| * apachelogger_ thinks documentation would help ^^ | 13:31 | |
| Riddell | why do we have no url shortcut to take us to http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/foo in kde apps? | 13:32 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I've installed it. How do I start it? | 13:33 |
| ScottK | All I see in system settings is the old one. | 13:33 |
| Riddell | ScottK: it's a plasmoid so right click on the systray arrow-> system tray settings -> tick manage print jobs | 13:35 |
| Riddell | "Printers" in system settings is the new one, maybe running kbuildcoca4 will make it appear | 13:35 |
| allee | Riddell: bug 1029550 has status new, but plasma-widget-networkmanagement changelog has LP: #1029550. Any idea what went wrong? | 13:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1029550 in plasma-widget-networkmanagement (Ubuntu Quantal) "Please update plasma-widget-networkmanagement to 0.9.0.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1029550 | 13:40 |
| ScottK | I did see printers there. | 13:43 |
| gotwig | so how can I compile dragon player 3 from git://anongit.kde.org/scratch/sitter/dragon.git ? | 13:45 |
| Riddell | allee: it changed name to networkmanagement | 13:45 |
| Riddell | allee: just close it manually | 13:45 |
| allee | Riddell: ah, now I see it. I'll close it. Thx | 13:46 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Should I use kubuntu-ppa for bugs? | 13:52 |
| Riddell | allee: I put a backport into ~jr but it is taking the usual hours to compile | 13:52 |
| Riddell | ScottK: for print-manager? best just to poke me for packaging bugs and dantti_laptop for feature bugs | 13:52 |
| ScottK | OK. | 13:52 |
| ScottK | All the amd64 and i386 builders are down. | 13:53 |
| Riddell | uh oh | 13:53 |
| Riddell | I hear rumours canonical are moving data centre this weekend | 13:53 |
| Riddell | so lots of downtime coming | 13:53 |
| ScottK | It's a bit early for that I'd imagine. | 13:53 |
| jocarter | it's never to early for downtime! | 13:54 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: I have spend the whole yesterday and a bit of today fixing some bugs.. :P I'm pretty close to a new release if you have a few more please tell me so I can fix them before I release it :) | 13:54 |
| ScottK | OK. | 13:55 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: First time I fired up the print manager, this is what I saw: http://kitterman.com/kubuntu/printjobs.jpeg | 13:56 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: hmm that's fine you don't have any print jobs | 13:57 |
| ScottK | I've no idea what that means. | 13:57 |
| ScottK | Also no idea why there's the empty space. | 13:58 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: it's like NM if you don't have any connection | 13:58 |
| ScottK | I deleted all the instances of one of the printers so I could test detection. Then I get something that looks more managable. | 13:58 |
| dantti_laptop | you need to print something to have a job shown there | 13:58 |
| allee | dantti_laptop: first impression: icons on left is big enough to allow for 2 rows for printername instead of using '...' | 13:59 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: http://kitterman.com/kubuntu/printjobs1.jpeg | 13:59 |
| ScottK | That I can actually read. | 13:59 |
| dantti_laptop | allee: as you can see from the first printer the line bellow is the printer status | 13:59 |
| dantti_laptop | allee: if you printer has a too large name just expand the plasmoid | 14:00 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: yes, when there is just one printer the layout is different | 14:00 |
| allee | dantti_laptop: can't this be done on first startup automaticly? | 14:01 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: OK. As it is, I couldn't tell what was what because not enough text was shown. | 14:01 |
| dantti_laptop | allee: it isn't that simple, you need to iterate over all list get the painted width and resize, then you might get something too wide | 14:02 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: maybe a "Printers" and "Print Jobs" header could help | 14:02 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: For printer discovery, it finds one of my printers three times, but doesn't display enough of the text for me to have any idea which I should pick: http://kitterman.com/kubuntu/printadd.jpeg | 14:02 |
| dantti_laptop | ? | 14:02 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/add-printer --add and see the debug info, I guess the s-c-p-dbus didn't work (you should have the printers grouped) | 14:04 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: Then when I click on one, I get extra text, but it doesn't wrap and is cut off: http://kitterman.com/kubuntu/printadd.jpeg | 14:04 |
| ScottK | OK. I'll try that. | 14:05 |
| ScottK | QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. | 14:06 |
| ScottK | QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. | 14:06 |
| ScottK | add-printer(20739) DevicesModel::getGroupedDevicesFailed: QDBusError("org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited", "Process /usr/bin/scp-dbus-service exited with status 1") QDBusMessage(type=MethodCall, service="org.fedoraproject.Config.Printing", path="/org/fedoraproject/Config/Printing", interface="org.fedoraproject.Config.Printing", member="GroupPhysicalDevices", signature="", contents=([MapSMapSS]) ) | 14:06 |
| ScottK | Apport got triggered too. | 14:06 |
| ScottK | LP thinks I hit Bug #902762, but that wasn't the issue the first time. | 14:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 902762 in system-config-printer (Ubuntu) "scp-dbus-service.py crashed with ImportError in __main__: No module named asyncconn" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/902762 | 14:11 |
| ScottK | Since that crashed it didn't find all the printers. | 14:12 |
| ScottK | Ran it again and it didn't find the other printer, but I got the same three copies of the 8500 that I got the first time. add-printer(21143) DevicesModel::getGroupedDevicesFailed: QDBusError("org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited", "Process /usr/bin/scp-dbus-service exited with status 1") QDBusMessage(type=MethodCall, service="org.fedoraproject.Config.Printing", path="/org/fedoraproject/Config/Printing", interface="org.fedoraproject. | 14:14 |
| ScottK | Config.Printing", member="GroupPhysicalDevices", signature="", contents=([MapSMapSS]) ) | 14:14 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: ^^^ | 14:14 |
| ScottK | I understand it's a known issue, but the not picking the right driver for you is a major regression from what we had before. | 14:17 |
| ScottK | add-printer(21143) SelectMakeModel::getBestDriversFailed: Failed to get best drivers QDBusError("org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited", "Process /usr/bin/scp-dbus-service exited with status 1") QDBusMessage(type=MethodCall, service="org.fedoraproject.Config.Printing", path="/org/fedoraproject/Config/Printing", interface="org.fedoraproject.Config.Printing", member="GetBestDrivers", signature="", contents=("MFG:HP;MDL:Officejet Pro 8500 | 14:17 |
| ScottK | A909g;CMD:MLC,PCL,PML,DW-PCL,DESKJET,DYN;1284.4DL:4d,4e,1;CLS:PRINTER;DES:CB023A;SN:MY93O210V8;S:038080ec840010210068eb800008fb8000044c8003245cd001446cd000a41c8005a;Z:0102,0500000900000901a5e1019641022c41026161,0600,07000000000000000000000000,0b0000000000000000989b98ba0000987098a30000987098a4000098af98c5,0c0,10000000000000000000000000000000000000,12000,150;", "HP Officejet Pro 8500 A909g", "socket://192.168.111.99:9100") ) | 14:17 |
| ScottK | In case you needed debug for that. | 14:17 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: ok, sr/bin/scp-dbus-service exited with status 1" so it failed, not my fault :P | 14:18 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: but maybe a tooltip with the full name could help | 14:18 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: The old one doesn't use dbus, so it works. | 14:18 |
| * ScottK doesn't care who's fault it is. | 14:19 | |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I'm not planning on doing amd64+mac images for 12.04.1 unless anyone objects, as a mac user you might have an opinion | 14:19 |
| dantti_laptop | I need to leave for an hour or so, if you find more stuff please email or wait till I get back | 14:19 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: driver search doesn't seem to work either: http://kitterman.com/kubuntu/printadd2.jpeg | 14:20 |
| ScottK | OK. | 14:20 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: I removed that thing, can't make it work now, quite complex task.. | 14:20 |
| ScottK | OK. | 14:20 |
| ScottK | If you can make the automagic finding the right one work, then I think it doesn't matter. | 14:20 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: well it works, as long scp-debus-service works | 14:21 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: the only reason those images exist is because some Mac's can't boot the standard desktop image | 14:21 |
| dantti_laptop | there is a bug there that needs fixing, then your python skills could help since here it works.. | 14:21 |
| dantti_laptop | bbl | 14:22 |
| shadeslayer | but its alright to drop them for 12.04.1 imo | 14:22 |
| ScottK | Possibly do amd64+mac for 12.04.2 like we're doing dvd as a one time only to get an updated image with the final version of KDE 4.8 on it. | 14:22 |
| shadeslayer | hmm ... sounds good to me ... | 14:29 |
| Riddell | ScottK: good idea | 14:29 |
| ScottK | I figured out the scp-dbus problem. | 14:30 |
| ScottK | Riddell: For this to work, we'll need more stuff in system-config-printer-common, but it currently uses gtk. See Bug #902762. | 14:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 902762 in system-config-printer (Ubuntu) "scp-dbus-service.py crashed with ImportError in __main__: No module named asyncconn" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/902762 | 14:36 |
| ScottK | So right now, dantti_laptop's printer then depends via dbus on gtk bits we'd prefer to avoid. | 14:37 |
| Riddell | ScottK: does it use gtk? I see an "import gtk" line but I don't think it gets used | 14:39 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I stopped at "import gtk". Maybe it doesn't. | 14:40 |
| ScottK | Also there's three other files it uses that need to move with it. I didn't check those. | 14:40 |
| Riddell | hmm those might be more problematic | 14:41 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: I agree the U/I works much nicer when the dbus thing doesn't die. | 14:42 |
| Riddell | ScottK: does with work with s-c-p-kde ? | 14:42 |
| Riddell | s/with/this/ | 14:42 |
| kubotu | Riddell meant: "ScottK: does this work with s-c-p-kde ?" | 14:42 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: It would be useful to let the user know there was a problem. | 14:42 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I think we don't use dbus, so we don't care. | 14:42 |
| * ScottK looks. | 14:42 | |
| Riddell | it does for the automatic setup | 14:43 |
| ScottK | OK. | 14:43 |
| ScottK | Seems to work fine. | 14:46 |
| ScottK | I don't get the printer grouped into one choice, but the automagic driver selection works. | 14:47 |
| Riddell | ScottK: in s-c-p-kde? | 14:47 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 14:47 |
| Riddell | ok that's done differently then | 14:48 |
| Riddell | ScottK: are you plugging a printer in by usb to test? | 14:50 |
| ScottK | Riddell: No. It's on the network. | 14:50 |
| ScottK | I click add printer and it goes out and finds it. | 14:50 |
| ScottK | Although it's not dantti_laptop's issue directly, I think we have to get this fixed if we're going to stick with the new one. | 14:51 |
| Riddell | fregl: can you help my git foo and tell me how to get the patch at https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,32359 ? | 14:52 |
| Riddell | ScottK: yep | 14:52 |
| === echidnaman is now known as jtechidna | ||
| Peace- | hi there i have installed the git stuff for dolphin | 15:06 |
| Peace- | on kubuntu 12.10 | 15:06 |
| Peace- | but it seems it doesn't show itself on dolphin | 15:06 |
| Peace- | i mean the git plugin for dolphin | 15:07 |
| shadeslayer | Peace-: could you tell me the package? | 15:08 |
| shadeslayer | and have you tried right clicking the folder? :) | 15:08 |
| Peace- | shadeslayersure | 15:08 |
| Peace- | shadeslayer: sudo apt-get install dolphin kdesdk-dolphin-plugins | 15:09 |
| * shadeslayer looks | 15:17 | |
| shadeslayer | need. to. get. a. SSD | 15:18 |
| Peace- | shadeslayer: have you seen ? | 15:20 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 15:20 |
| shadeslayer | doesn't work it seems | 15:20 |
| shadeslayer | assuming I'm looking in the right place | 15:20 |
| Peace- | shit | 15:20 |
| Peace- | shadeslayer: should be there http://nowardev.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/snapshot24.jpg | 15:21 |
| Peace- | shadeslayer: btw ffmpeg provided by avconv doens't work for screencast | 15:21 |
| Peace- | and even avconv doesn't work | 15:22 |
| Peace- | :D | 15:22 |
| Riddell | Peace-: you need to enable it first | 15:22 |
| shadeslayer | Peace-: works for me | 15:22 |
| shadeslayer | after I enable git | 15:22 |
| Peace- | Riddell: ? | 15:22 |
| Peace- | shadeslayer: where should i enable it ? | 15:22 |
| shadeslayer | Peace-: click control > Configure dolphin | 15:22 |
| Riddell | oh you have an old dolphin | 15:23 |
| Peace- | Riddell: i am on 12.10 | 15:23 |
| shadeslayer | and then under services | 15:23 |
| Riddell | Peace-: that's not KDE SC 4.9 | 15:23 |
| Peace- | ah | 15:23 |
| Peace- | btw i have to say that rekonq is improved | 15:23 |
| Peace- | at least i have not seen crash | 15:24 |
| Peace- | but it ask me always to set the search engine | 15:24 |
| Peace- | i do | 15:24 |
| Peace- | and it asks again afte i restart it | 15:24 |
| shadeslayer | report a bug upstream? | 15:25 |
| Peace- | i guess i will do | 15:25 |
| debfx | hm looks like the launchpad builders are taking a nap today | 15:26 |
| Riddell | Peace-: try updating kubuntu-default-settings for that | 15:29 |
| Peace- | Riddell: sure | 15:30 |
| Peace- | btw can someone test this ? | 15:30 |
| Peace- | avconv -s 1280x800 -i :0.0 -f alsa -ac 2 -ar 48000 -i hw:0,0 -acodec pcm_s16le -vcodec ljpeg -r 15 -threads 1 -y $HOME/Screencast.avi | 15:30 |
| Peace- | and | 15:30 |
| Peace- | ffmpeg -s 1280x800 -i :0.0 -f alsa -ac 2 -ar 48000 -i hw:0,0 -acodec pcm_s16le -vcodec ljpeg -r 15 -threads 1 -y $HOME/Screencast.avi | 15:30 |
| Peace- | both fail | 15:31 |
| Peace- | instead ffmpeg compiled works | 15:31 |
| Peace- | sorry before avconv and ffmpeg you should put | 15:32 |
| Peace- | -f x11grab | 15:32 |
| Riddell | Peace-: you'd be best to ask the ffmpeg/av maintainers | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer | debfx: iirc it's some scheduled maintainence on the data center | 15:36 |
| gotwig | I am searching for the following packages: qtdesktop phonon-declarative qtest-qml would be cool if you can help me, where they are located. I already installed nokia forum ppa | 15:37 |
| shadeslayer | you installed what from what ppa? 0.o | 15:38 |
| Peace- | xd | 15:38 |
| shadeslayer | ok, for some reason I read that as "I already installed nokia *from* ppa" | 15:38 |
| shadeslayer | gotwig: what's ppa did you install though? | 15:38 |
| shadeslayer | *what | 15:38 |
| gotwig | muhaha, I make kde developers laugh.. | 15:39 |
| gotwig | wait ;D | 15:39 |
| gotwig | Like I said, I need these packages, for compiling dragon player 3. https://launchpad.net/~forumnokia contains some needed packages, or I thought that | 15:39 |
| gotwig | e.g the qt quick libraries, seem to be not in the ubuntu repos | 15:40 |
| Riddell | gotwig: can I ask why you're compiling dragon 3? it not complete as far as I know | 15:40 |
| gotwig | I try to | 15:41 |
| gotwig | I love alpha software testing :X | 15:41 |
| gotwig | but I dont wanna compile libraries | 15:41 |
| gotwig | becouse they can break my system, if they are important | 15:41 |
| gotwig | any idea how to install qt quick libraries? | 15:42 |
| gotwig | sd | 15:42 |
| Riddell | gotwig: where do you get that list of packages? I don't think there's any such thing as qtdesktop | 15:42 |
| gotwig | cmake | 15:42 |
| Riddell | libqt4-declarative is qt quick | 15:43 |
| gotwig | of course the package names are a bit different | 15:43 |
| Riddell | gotwig: pastebin the output | 15:43 |
| gotwig | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1150887/ | 15:43 |
| gotwig | any idea :X? | 15:49 |
| Riddell | gotwig: Qt Quick Desktop Components isn't packaged, it's unreleased software (like Dragon 3) | 15:49 |
| Riddell | phonon-declarative probably likewise is in a branch somewhere, apachelogger_ would know | 15:50 |
| gotwig | apachelogger_: hey there | 15:50 |
| Riddell | qtest-qml is also not released or packaged | 15:50 |
| gotwig | Riddell: but it is in the ppa? | 15:50 |
| Riddell | none of those are in PPAs as far as I know | 15:50 |
| gotwig | :O | 15:52 |
| gotwig | why not | 15:52 |
| gotwig | maybe I shall package them | 15:52 |
| gotwig | and set up recipes | 15:52 |
| Riddell | gotwig: mind that phonon-qml and dragon 3 haven't been worked on in over a year, they may not work at all currently | 16:03 |
| gotwig | but in the demo vid it worked, one year ago... | 16:03 |
| gotwig | currently people develop I see | 16:04 |
| Riddell | gotwig: just because it worked on apachelogger's computer a year ago doesn't mean it'll work on yours now (it might do, but there's no development on it that I know of) | 16:11 |
| gotwig | :-) | 16:11 |
| gotwig | its ok | 16:11 |
| Riddell | Quintasan_: you wanted to edit the seeds? | 16:11 |
| gotwig | can you use clutter with qt? | 16:11 |
| Riddell | Quintasan_: I think adding krdc would be a nice idea | 16:11 |
| Riddell | Quintasan_: I've already added it to the seed at lp:~kubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu.quantal | 16:12 |
| Riddell | Quintasan_: so you can update the meta package kubuntu-meta (just run the update script) | 16:12 |
| gotwig | Riddell: whats that? the new url here does not work: http://qt.gitorious.org/qt-components/desktop#more | 16:26 |
| gotwig | https://codereview.qt-project.org/#q,project:playground/qtdesktopcomponents | 16:26 |
| Riddell | gotwig: as I say, things change in a year, something will break | 16:29 |
| gotwig | Riddell: so where is the code........... | 16:29 |
| ScottK | Riddell: When you add KRDC, please do it as a Recommends. | 16:30 |
| micahg | ScottK: he did that already | 16:35 |
| ScottK | OK. | 16:35 |
| gotwig | does no one knows where is the qt desktop components code? | 16:36 |
| gotwig | got it, git://gitorious.org/qtplayground/qtdesktopcomponents.git | 16:40 |
| === cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson | ||
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: yup, you are right, just a warning that s-c-p-dbus failed on the konsole isn't enough, I'll probably add a warning box showing the error.. | 17:16 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: The print job U/I is unreadable with multiple printers. | 17:17 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: and it's odd that the s-c-p-dbus depends on gtk tho it does makes a bit of a sense since I can ask for the add new printer wizard... | 17:17 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: how do you mean? | 17:18 |
| ScottK | Let me find the screen shot. | 17:18 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: This one http://kitterman.com/kubuntu/printjobs.jpeg | 17:19 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: do you have any sugestion? | 17:19 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: First, a tooltip to display the missing text on hover. | 17:19 |
| dantti_laptop | I could set the "..." on the middle would help a bit | 17:20 |
| ScottK | As it is, it's very hard to tell what's what. | 17:20 |
| dantti_laptop | nah plasma tooltips suck | 17:20 |
| dantti_laptop | well you can always expand it.. | 17:20 |
| ScottK | Or maybe the text could wrap to multi-line? | 17:21 |
| ScottK | There's no indication what the slider switch does. | 17:21 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK sure has alot of printers :P | 17:22 |
| dantti_laptop | yup ^^ | 17:22 |
| gotwig | packagers present? | 17:22 |
| gotwig | do you know where I can get the qt quick phonon branch? | 17:22 |
| shadeslayer | the code? | 17:22 |
| gotwig | jo | 17:22 |
| shadeslayer | because there's no package by that name afaik | 17:22 |
| ScottK | There's actually only two, but one was added twice and it also shows up twice, so it looks like 4. | 17:22 |
| gotwig | yeah | 17:22 |
| gotwig | becouse of that I wanna know if packagers are there | 17:23 |
| ScottK | For that, ask apachelogger_ | 17:23 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: well it enable/disable the printer | 17:23 |
| gotwig | can you fix missing strings? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305264 | 17:23 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 305264 in general "Missing and bad strings in translation template" [Major,Unconfirmed] | 17:23 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: I guessed, but then how do I know if it worked? I know enabling isn't instant. | 17:23 |
| gotwig | or confirm | 17:23 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: it will show printer paused below it | 17:24 |
| dantti_laptop | no the icon get 1 for opacity, | 17:25 |
| dantti_laptop | I should probably put the printer status there... | 17:26 |
| ScottK | It looks like enabling failed and the transparency might be a little different, not sure. | 17:29 |
| gotwig | why can KDE not use launchpad? | 17:31 |
| ScottK | Because KDE is it's own thing. | 17:32 |
| ScottK | They picked something different. | 17:32 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: When I print, there's no change in what the print manager shows in the U/I. | 17:32 |
| gotwig | launchpad translations are a dream for translators, ladies and gentlemen... | 17:32 |
| ScottK | You are the first person I ever heard say that. | 17:32 |
| ScottK | Every other translator I ever heard discuss it hated them. | 17:32 |
| gotwig | I translated quite much | 17:33 |
| gotwig | ;P | 17:33 |
| gotwig | just my opinion.. | 17:33 |
| * ScottK <-- Not a translator, so no personal opinion. | 17:33 | |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: hmm you don't see jobs there? | 17:33 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: Nope. | 17:33 |
| dantti_laptop | odd | 17:33 |
| gotwig | why does no one confirm my bug ? I am new to KDE, just wanna know | 17:34 |
| dantti_laptop | is the printer accepting jobs? | 17:34 |
| ScottK | The icon pops into the systray and I can click on it, but it just shows the single printer in use with a blank area underneath. | 17:34 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: Yes. It printed. | 17:34 |
| dantti_laptop | hmm maybe it was too fast? try printing to a disabled(paused) printer | 17:35 |
| dantti_laptop | if the icon shows on the systray is because the job model has something.. | 17:35 |
| === ejat- is now known as ejat | ||
| ScottK | Tried a 100 page job. | 17:41 |
| ScottK | Still nothing. | 17:41 |
| ScottK | Restarted printer-applet and it showed me the job info. | 17:41 |
| ScottK | gotwig: Have patience. Most of us are volunteers and all of us are busy. | 17:43 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: Any suggestions? | 17:54 |
| shadeslayer | gotwig: what bug? | 17:55 |
| gotwig | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=305264 | 17:56 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 305264 in general "Missing and bad strings in translation template" [Major,Unconfirmed] | 17:56 |
| gotwig | easy one | 17:56 |
| gotwig | but I am new to kde | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | yeah well, ask in #amarok :) | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | they'll eventually get to it | 17:56 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: hmm well plasmoids and dataengines don't seem to work very well I had lots of troubless with this combination but it seemed to be working fine now.. | 18:00 |
| ScottK | What KDE version are you testing with? | 18:01 |
| dantti_laptop | 4.9 | 18:01 |
| dantti_laptop | it was fine in 4.8 too | 18:01 |
| ScottK | I've got 4.8.4 here. | 18:01 |
| ScottK | How can we debug this? | 18:02 |
| dantti_laptop | so now that you readded the plasmoid and the job is now shown does adding a new one fix the issue? | 18:02 |
| ScottK | (and did you try it with network printers?) | 18:02 |
| ScottK | I'll try again. I cancelled it. | 18:02 |
| dantti_laptop | plasmoidviewer printermanager, you can also look at the dataengine to see if it's getting updated | 18:02 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: it should have no difference if the printer is local or remote | 18:03 |
| dantti_laptop | all your jobs stay in your cups | 18:03 |
| ScottK | Well, it shold work too. | 18:03 |
| ScottK | Still doesn't show up. | 18:03 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: http://kitterman.com/kubuntu/noprintjob.jpeg | 18:05 |
| ScottK | There you can see them side by side. | 18:06 |
| dantti_laptop | hmm that's odd, it's probably that crap CUPS dbus registrationg thing | 18:07 |
| dantti_laptop | tho I started listening to the same deprecated dbus interface that printer-applet does (it's more reliable...) | 18:08 |
| dantti_laptop | are you running a git version? | 18:08 |
| dantti_laptop | dunno if this change was after 0.1 | 18:08 |
| ScottK | I'm running whatever Riddell put in his PPA for precise. | 18:09 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: 0.1.0+git20120813 | 18:11 |
| ScottK | Riddell: ^^^ major regression #2 from my POV. | 18:11 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: how this works plasmaengineexplorer --engine org.kde.printjobs | 18:11 |
| dantti_laptop | yup, must be the cups crap dbus stuff, I'll add the redhat dbus to it since it's way more reliable but don't update in all cases (yes printer-applet suffers because of this too) | 18:13 |
| dantti_laptop | btw gnome also got away from s-c-p, they only use the dbus interface like I did... | 18:14 |
| dantti_laptop | so it's likely that only the dbus interface will survive | 18:14 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: http://kitterman.com/kubuntu/noprintjob1.jpeg | 18:14 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: so is the plasmaengineexplorer properly updating on new jobs? | 18:15 |
| ScottK | It appears so. | 18:16 |
| dantti_laptop | if so then it's really odd :P | 18:16 |
| ScottK | That one showed up and went away when I canceled the job. | 18:16 |
| dantti_laptop | not so much since imo the engine -> plasmoid connection is a bit weird | 18:16 |
| ScottK | So I think this is one you can't blame on python or packaging ... | 18:17 |
| ScottK | What else can I do to help? | 18:17 |
| dantti_laptop | try restarting plasma-desktop to see if it helps, since the engine is loaded only once.. | 18:19 |
| ScottK | OK. | 18:21 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: Works after restarting. | 18:27 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: right, did you had it installed previously? | 18:28 |
| ScottK | No. | 18:28 |
| ScottK | I shouldn't have to restart my desktop to make something work though. | 18:28 |
| dantti_laptop | sure, but for some reason it stopped working I'll try to find out what.. | 18:29 |
| ScottK | The other thing I miss is that the old print manager window would stay open if I opened it. | 18:31 |
| ScottK | With this one, as soon as I click on something else, it's gone. | 18:31 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: well you can open a window with way more info if you want, just got to system settings choose your printer and then "open queue" or add the plasmoid to the dashboard | 18:44 |
| ScottK | systemsettings -> printer -> pick printer -> open queue seems a lot harder than "click on the systray icon." | 18:45 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: right, well I could add a double click on a printer to open it if you think it's usefull... | 18:50 |
| ScottK | I think it would. It's not rare that I want the job window to be persistent. | 18:51 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: ok, the bug is indeed the cups DBus subscription that simply stops working.. I'll add the deprecated (that works better) way to it now, I thought I did this already but I didn't | 18:52 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: right, with the window you can also move jobs to different printers (tho you need two window opened) | 18:53 |
| dantti_laptop | or you can right click on a job... | 18:54 |
| ScottK | I thought right clicking was ~only for configuring stuff in widgets? | 18:55 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: no I mean right click a job on the widget window | 18:56 |
| dantti_laptop | btw what sounds better "Reject printings" or "Reject print jobs"? | 18:56 |
| dantti_laptop | it's a missing feature I'm adding now.. | 18:56 |
| ScottK | I think the latter. | 18:57 |
| dantti_laptop | ok | 18:58 |
| ScottK | dantti_laptop: In "Manage Print Jobs Settings" you have "only jobs from printer". This should be some kind of a pick list instead of a text entry window. | 18:59 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: sorry don't get it | 19:00 |
| dantti_laptop | ah you mean to filter jobs by printer on the plasmoid? | 19:01 |
| ScottK | If you right click and click on "Manage Print Jobs Settings". | 19:01 |
| dantti_laptop | well I need to find out if it's possible to build a cpp kcm for that thing, because that dialog is pain .ui... | 19:02 |
| ScottK | As is, it's not very useful. | 19:02 |
| dantti_laptop | better than nothing imo... | 19:03 |
| ScottK | I've no idea what to put in that box, so not really. | 19:04 |
| dantti_laptop | actually I also need to learn how do I provide a cpp model to the plasmoid then that ui will have a bit more options | 19:04 |
| dantti_laptop | you put the printer name | 19:04 |
| dantti_laptop | then you will only see jobs for it | 19:04 |
| ScottK | Do I have to type the whole thing or just enough for a unique match? | 19:05 |
| dantti_laptop | usefull if you want to have a dash board to see each printer jobs in a different plasmoid | 19:05 |
| dantti_laptop | it uses regexp so a unique thing will do | 19:05 |
| ScottK | Riddell: With a bit of work, I think we can use this. | 19:21 |
| dantti_laptop | ScottK: btw thanks for the testing :) I've just added the reject jobs feature then I'll make sure the data engine also updates on the deprecated interface.. | 19:43 |
| ScottK | Great. | 19:43 |
| === jalcine is now known as Jacky | ||
| ronnoc | Hi all. Another stupid question (although I was asked and didn't know the answer) - Is Blue System's kmozillahelper going to be standard on the CD / install going forward? Or an elected install? I can't imagine a Kubuntu use-case that would not warrant it. | 21:00 |
| dantti | ScottK: s-c-p-gtk now uses that dbus subscription thing too, and it has the same problem.. :P | 21:02 |
| ronnoc | Although I suppose a use case for not including kmozillahelper would be a user who has no intentions for using Firefox? Hmmm | 21:04 |
| ScottK | dantti: I'm not particularly worried about Gnome regressions. | 21:05 |
| ScottK | ronnoc: We don't ship kmozillahelper anymore. | 21:06 |
| dantti | well the interface that is currently working might be removed at any time, so it's something to worry, the new way of doing this should work... | 21:06 |
| ronnoc | ScottK: Now that it's maintained by Blue Systems, is it worth revisiting? | 21:07 |
| ScottK | ronnoc: The removal reason was "no longer useful following removal of Firefox KDE integration patches in 10.0~b1+build1-0ubuntu1". | 21:07 |
| ScottK | So no. | 21:07 |
| ScottK | dantti: Agreed. | 21:07 |
| ronnoc | ScottK: Not sure I agree, but thanks for pointing that out for me | 21:10 |
| === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc | ||
| shadeslayer | ronnoc: the idea we had was to get kfi to install the blue shell ppa and go from there | 21:29 |
| shadeslayer | the long term proposal is to clean up the patches and maintain them upstream with help from Suse | 21:29 |
| shadeslayer | ( or is it SUSE, not sure ) | 21:29 |
| shadeslayer | me and apachelogger_ were going to work on that, but I'm occupied with some other things atm | 21:30 |
| apachelogger_ | shadeslayer: openSUSE | 21:30 |
| shadeslayer | ( maybe we can collaborate with the firefox ubuntu team and work out a plan at UDS ? ) | 21:30 |
| shadeslayer | right :) | 21:30 |
| ronnoc | shadeslayer: ahh I see. well that makes sense :) | 21:32 |
| Daskreech | does anyne have a debian lenny install CD? | 21:59 |
| ScottK | Daskreech: You can still download them. | 22:03 |
| Riddell | ScottK: if you think print-manager might be usable best let it through new :) | 22:06 |
| ScottK | OK. Didn't have time to look yet. | 22:06 |
| ScottK | Spent too much time testing today... | 22:06 |
| CIA-41 | [ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20120816221207-rnm939epriynr93p * debian/changelog New upstream release | 22:12 |
| JontheEchidna | !info libqtgstreamer-dev precise | 23:48 |
| ubottu | libqtgstreamer-dev (source: qt-gstreamer): Development headers for QtGStreamer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.10.1-2ubuntu4 (precise), package size 60 kB, installed size 319 kB | 23:48 |
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