[00:18] <MySystem> hello iam searching for help on a shell script (hope this isnt offtopic if it is pls say a channel name on feenode)
[00:37] <markit> btw, the problem with the missing translation is a bug, just filed by a friend of mine when I talked about this problem (kde #305228)
[00:37] <markit> sleep time now :)
[00:37] <markit> oh, clever bot
[01:27] <Obsidian1723> What would be the easiest way to copy all KDE settings (wallpaper settings, keyboard shortcuts, menu application hotkeys, etc) for the purpose of a) backing them up and b) migrating them to a different system also using KDE? NOTE: I just want my settings, not all of my $HOME/$user director/y(-ies)
[01:34] <Daskreech> Obsidian1723: ~/.kde
[01:34] <Daskreech> if you care about your nepomuk tags and don't want to redownload your mail then ~/.config and ~/.local would help as well but those would get rebuilt and initialized if they don't exist
[02:13] <MySystem1> hello how can i kill my trash if the folder in dolphin doesnt load and empty trash rightclick is grayed out
[02:21] <Daskreech> MySystem1: what happened?
[02:32] <aguitel> i am in kde triyng to enable auto login but it say: unable to autenticate/execute the action ( code:4) why happend this?
[02:35] <ss_> e
[02:35] <ss_> hello
[02:43] <MySystem1> sry iam back but not for long
[02:46] <MySystem1> dont know exactly what happens my home partition is neraly full i cant delete new items into trash it says trash full and cant delete the folder without trash because owner is nobody(copy from smb source) and i tried empty trash and this also doesnt work and cant open trash it loads over 30 min without sucess
[02:47] <MySystem1> oh i tried "sudo rmdir dir\ name
[02:47] <MySystem1> "
[02:48] <MySystem1> without sucess funny is that the command returns folder doesnt exist
[02:48] <MySystem1> no matter if i write dir\ name or "dir name"
[02:50] <MySystem1> daskreech are you still here
[02:53] <MySystem1> ok lets make it easy for today want to go to bed how can i delete a folder which is not owned by me or root
[02:59] <MySystem1> lol got it tried sudo chown -R user:group dir\ name
[02:59] <MySystem1> thought this cant work because sudo rmdir cant see the folder to delete but how ever 10gb free thats enought for tonight *smile* thx elsewhere
[02:59] <MySystem1> and good night be back with my trash prob tomorrow or so
[03:19] <JMichaelX> i am trying to figure out how to stream audio from an android phone or tablet to kubuntu. would anyone here know how to do this?
[03:29] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[05:31] <nerobot> hello
[05:32] <kg_sl> hello
[05:35] <nerobot> I've used linuz before, but I think I'm trying to completely switch. So any basic pointers would be greatly appreciated.
[05:35] <nerobot> linux*
[05:38] <hateball> nerobot: About what? :)
[05:39] <hateball> Here's a basic pointer: Use it, stumble upon a problem/annoyance, ask for help someplace like here
[05:39] <hateball> That's all there is to it!
[05:49] <nerobot> That sounds wonderful actually. I'm all for sharing knowledge.
[05:49] <nerobot> Especially when I have some to share :P
[05:49] <nerobot> Won't be a little while til I can share for linux.
[05:53] <nerobot> Can you reference any good java learning material?
[05:59] <hateball> nerobot: I'm guessing #java would be a better place for that :)
[06:01] <nerobot> Having a bit of trouble joining a channel. /join #name right?
[06:04] <hateball> nerobot: Yep
[06:05] <nerobot> Thank you.
[06:05] <hateball> nerobot: Well, depending on the client you use, with a gui you can likely click the channel name
[06:06] <nerobot> Okay, let me see if I can figure that out really quickly.
[06:06] <nerobot> Well, with the /jon command, it's telling me that I have to be invited.
[07:03] <nandhu> amixer detects in different type in different hardware eg : master and master volume , mic in some hardware and mic front and mic rear etc
[07:04] <nandhu> [12:23] <nandhu> is there a way to group volume and mic or line in togather
[07:04] <nandhu> [12:23] <nandhu> so that i can write a script to increase and decrease volume output and volume mic input
[08:18] <kg_sl> hi, does anyone know a good tool to edit pcap files... I need to replace an IP in the packet?
[08:19] <kg_sl> Can I use tcprewrite for the above task?
[08:31] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:55] <gillie-monster> help? no sound on ibm thinkpad r32 laptop.  aplay -l lists intel ich3
[08:56] <Mamarok> hi gillie-monster. Which exact Kubuntu version do you use?
[08:56] <gillie-monster> fresh install 12.04, it just ran a system update
[08:57] <Mamarok> OK. PLease install the package 'alsamixer' and run it from a konsole. Make sure you have nothing muted there
[08:59] <gillie-monster> apt-get install says no alsamixer
[09:00] <Mamarok> sorry, my bad, it should already be installed
[09:06] <gillie-monster> weird
[09:06] <gillie-monster> im not even seeing it listed in the software center
[09:07] <Mamarok> gillie-monster: because it is not a single package, it is part of another one, but should already be installed
[09:07] <Mamarok> just type 'alsamixer' in a konsole
[09:10] <gillie-monster> setting the default device; i have ich3 and thinkpad console audio control
[09:11] <Mamarok> gillie-monster: just leave it to default
[09:11] <Mamarok> what you need to check is that you have nothing muted
[09:11] <Mamarok> don't change anything else there
[09:12] <gillie-monster> nothing muted or turned down
[09:12] <Mamarok> OK
[09:13] <Mamarok> next let's check kmix
[09:13] <Mamarok> it's the speaker symbol in the SystemTray
[09:13] <Mamarok> click on it and click on mixer
[09:13] <Mamarok> you will probably have to resize the mixer window
[09:13] <Mamarok> nothing should be muted there either
[09:14] <david__> hi
[09:14] <gillie-monster> nope not muted or turned down
[09:14] <david__> i wanted to apt-get update today, and suddenly some sources 404'ed
[09:14] <Mamarok> gillie-monster: so let's check pulseaudio, then
[09:14] <david__> official sources i might add
[09:15] <david__> W: Fehlschlag beim Holen von http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 141.30.13.10 80]
[09:15] <gillie-monster> yeah i have been getting some try back laters when installing
[09:15] <Mamarok> gillie-monster: do you have the tool 'pavucontrol' installed? else isntall it and run it
[09:15] <Mamarok> david__: just be either patient or change the server in the settings
[09:17] <david__> Mamarok: im just checking the sources.list. although the servers are up, but the directories are not there
[09:17] <Mamarok> david__: that can happen on a mirror. As I said: either keep patience or chang the server
[09:17] <gillie-monster> yeah try again later. happened to me for flash aih and it was there a minute later
[09:18] <Mamarok> or contact the mirror provider if you want to :)
[09:19] <david__> Mamarok: Okay, thank you! with us.archive.* it works :) only i never experienced that before. ty
[09:19] <Mamarok> david__: you are welcome :)
[09:20] <Mamarok> gillie-monster: not back to you :)
[09:20] <Mamarok> gillie-monster: do you have the tool 'pavucontrol' installed? else install and run it
[09:21] <gillie-monster> just finished installing
[09:21] <gillie-monster> what now
[09:21] <gillie-monster> i  opened it
[09:21] <Mamarok> well, check if everthing is up there as well
[09:22] <gillie-monster> the output options are lfe on seperate mono or stero output / Aplifier
[09:22] <gillie-monster> and no amp
[09:23] <david__> since i had quite some problems with sound as well, might i get a quick summary to what gillie-monster's problem is?
[09:23] <david__> maybe i can help
[09:23] <gillie-monster> that doesnt look right to me. normally i see a manufacturer name there
[09:23] <Mamarok> gillie-monster: normally as in you already tried that?
[09:23] <gillie-monster> ibm thinkpad r32 and compaq evo n610c laptops have no sound
[09:23] <Mamarok> I can't remember having seen manufacturer names in pavucontrol before :)
[09:24] <gillie-monster> as in on other computers iv run kubuntu n ubuntu on
[09:24] <Mamarok> you should have "Built-in Audio Analog Stereo
[09:24] <gillie-monster> yup i do
[09:25] <Mamarok> and it is not muted?
[09:25] <gillie-monster> not muted
[09:25] <Mamarok> if you move the sliders you should here pop sounds
[09:25] <gillie-monster> not turned down
[09:25] <gillie-monster> no sound
[09:25] <Mamarok> no pop sounds when you move the sliders?
[09:26] <gillie-monster> no sound. i dont ever hear the speakers initialize
[09:26] <Mamarok> you have external speakers?
[09:26] <gillie-monster> laptop speakers
[09:26] <gillie-monster> tried testing the headphone ports
[09:26] <Mamarok> funny, never heard them "initialize" :)
[09:27] <Mamarok> you can go to the configuration tab and change the output device, try that
[09:28] <gillie-monster> ...
[09:28] <gillie-monster> i have
[09:29] <Mamarok> well, you probably have several output devices there, test them
[09:29] <gillie-monster> yeah ive done this, but in a different gui
[09:29] <Mamarok> I don't remember the ThinkPad R32, does it have hardware keys for sound? I assume you tested those
[09:30] <Mamarok> well, you cna also test it with Phonon in the Systemsettings -> Mulitmedia
[09:30] <Mamarok> but since Kubuntu 12.04 uses pulseaudio testing with PA directly makes sense
[09:31] <gillie-monster> im not familiar with this computer, it used to be a corperate laptop but was given to my neice for college. something about its hardware design makes it too slow for windows
[09:31] <gillie-monster> yes phonon was what i was using
[09:32] <Mamarok> you can try that as well, but as I said, Phonon is built with PA suport, so testing with PA directly makes sense
[09:32] <gillie-monster> lets move on
[09:32] <gillie-monster> whats next?
[09:33] <Mamarok> gillie-monster: you tested all output configurations? Then try a different backend for Phonon, that is in Systemsettings -> Multimedia -> Phonon -> Backend
[09:34] <gillie-monster> yes
[09:34] <gillie-monster> in ur tool too
[09:34] <Mamarok> you will have eventually to restart KDE to make sure phonon uses the other backend
[09:34] <Mamarok> default is the gstreamer backend, alternative would be phonon-backend-vlc, you might have to install that first
[09:35] <Mamarok> and just to make sure, I don't remember: you had sound before on that laptop, right?
[09:35] <gillie-monster> heres the story
[09:37] <gillie-monster> i am putting together some donated old machines to donate to needy people. i came across this problem on the compaq evo and played around with trying to fix it myself for a month. i gave up becuase the new owner didnt care if he had sound. now his daughter is going to college and this thinkpad has the same soundcard
[09:38] <Mamarok> what soundcard is it?
[09:38] <gillie-monster> all the other computers are laptops that have no screens (but they loved 12.04)
[09:40] <Mamarok> gillie-monster: well, and external screen is sufficient in general :)
[09:41] <gillie-monster> SoundMax, looking up what kind
[09:41] <gillie-monster> not easy to carry between classes
[09:41] <Mamarok> gillie-monster: lspci should give you the info
[09:44] <gillie-monster> ....XP had it listed as SoundMax Audio Device, this says its Intel AC'97 Audio Device
[09:44] <Mamarok> hm, Intel sound cards should work out of the box normally
[09:44] <gillie-monster> ich3 in an ibm, id assume intel
[09:44] <Mamarok> and you had sound in Windows?
[09:45] <gillie-monster> yeah
[09:45] <Mamarok> then the soundcard works
[09:45] <gillie-monster> well i have no sound
[09:45] <Mamarok> that was the actual question
[09:46] <Mamarok> gillie-monster: I know, I just wanted to exclude a hardware problem
[09:46] <Mamarok> did you try the backend change?
[09:46] <gillie-monster> yeah let me just restart again
[09:58] <gillie-monster> no startup sound so far
[10:03] <gillie-monster> ...waiting for the file server to restart
[10:05] <sheytan> Hey guys!
[10:05] <sheytan> There's a problem with  backports ppa, no amarok 2.6 packages ;)
[10:06] <sheytan> atleast muon doesn't see them
[10:06] <sheytan> 2.5 is the latest
[10:07] <Mamarok> sheytan: did you change mirror? maybe just not distributed everywhere yet
[10:08] <sheytan> Mamarok i didn't, i have Poland set up
[10:09] <sheytan> never had such issue ;)
[10:09] <Mamarok> well, patience, or change to the main server
[10:10] <gillie-monster> ....
[10:11] <gillie-monster> this one is also haveing issues accessing windows shared folders
[10:11] <gillie-monster> keeps saying server timeout, my gateway laptop is accessing the share fine
[10:12] <georgep> Hello all, I need a bit of help.
[10:12] <georgep> I have an application which runs OK on my kubuntu environment installed on the same system as an Ubuntu environment. However, on a different partition I have just Kubuntu installed and the program won't run. I have checked that all the dependancies are installed with ldd.
[10:12] <gillie-monster> whats the error
[10:12] <georgep> Is there anything obvious that could be the issue?
[10:13] <georgep> gillie-monster: It seems to fail to find a license on the network
[10:14] <gillie-monster> no enrollment process?
[10:16] <georgep> Failed to handle error condition correctly - exiting  NX License Error:  License Server machine is down or not responding. Check that UGS_LICENSE_SERVER is set correctly.[ -96 ]
[10:16] <georgep> But I don't have this error on the Ubuntu/kubuntu system
[10:17] <gillie-monster> i dont know what you are trying to do
[10:18] <gillie-monster> it sounds like it is trying to get a certificate and the server is not responding
[10:18] <georgep> gillie-monster: The odd thing is, the application is officially supported by SuSe so I'm surprised it works with Ubuntu and not Kubuntu.
[10:19] <gillie-monster> kubuntu doesnt install with the same set of packages
[10:19] <gillie-monster> oh i misunderstood
[10:20] <gillie-monster> what kind of app is this. that would help
[10:21] <georgep> It is a CAD application, Siemens NX 8
[10:21] <gillie-monster> oh.  sounds like seimens server is down right now
[10:22] <gillie-monster> if u were to install it on another machine right now, would it run?
[10:24] <gillie-monster> if this is a paid app, when it first runs, its going to check the siemens server for the x.500 cert
[10:25] <georgep> gillie-monster: It will run on another Ubuntu installation. It is a paid app, the license server is on a differet computer on our network
[10:25] <gillie-monster> ping that server from the problem computer
[10:27] <Mamarok> well, maybe you just can't run it on two machines
[10:27] <gillie-monster> its the same machine
[10:27] <gillie-monster> just a diff partition
[10:27] <georgep> gillie-monster: no problem pinging the server. Also the FlexNet license utility on my computer does show some info about the license. I'll get the msg
[10:30] <Mamarok> not unlikely it is considering this to be a different instance
[10:30] <georgep> george@george-HP-EliteBook:~/nxscripts/usr/ugs080/ugflexlm$ ./lmutil lmstat -c 28000@srv1.ntdom.com lmutil - Copyright (c) 1989-2007 Macrovision Europe Ltd. and/or Macrovision Corporation. All Rights Reserved. Flexible License Manager status on Thu 8/16/2012 11:28  License server status: 28000@SVR1     License file(s) on SVR1: 28000@svr1.ntdom.com:  lmgrd is not running: License server machine is down or not responding. (-96,7:2 "No
[10:31] <georgep> sorry, should probably patebin that
[10:31] <Mamarok> yes :)
[10:31] <antonis> YY
[10:31] <antonis> WW
[10:31] <georgep> http://pastebin.com/siPGyneN
[10:33] <georgep> so it is seeing the license file (albeit with an error). But this is the same output as the working system displays. So it is almost as if the Ubuntu/Kubuntu system works regardless of the error and the kubuntu system fails at the error
[10:33] <georgep> I hope that makes sense
[10:34] <gillie-monster>  lmgrd is not running
[10:35] <georgep> gillie-monster: Yes although that doesn't seem to matter for the other system
[10:38] <gillie-monster> okay so lenovo support site says the thinkpad r32 uses the SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio driver, which is the same as the evo. neither have sound
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:45] <jmbeck_> A kings randsom for a Kmail that stops doing stupid things.
[12:45] <jmbeck_> (a very poor king)
[12:47] <ToxinPowe> Anyone knows why I can't get Amarok 2.6? I followed this http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-26
[12:53] <BluesKaj> jmbeck_, don't waste your king's ransom , kmail is just broken on some systems , mine included ...there are tens if not hundreds of bugs filed on launchpad which are promptly classed as dupes and IMO never looked at again,
[12:53] <BluesKaj> seems like nothing is being done about it
[12:55] <jmbeck_> Aw.
[12:55] <BluesKaj> thunderbird fits my needs as a home user
[12:56] <jmbeck_> If I'm not going to use Akonadi to manage the messages, then I may as well use Opera
[12:56] <Mamarok> ToxinPowe: see my answer in #amarok
[12:56] <jmbeck_> I really like Opera mail, except that sometimes I accidnetly delete a message or do something else horrible.
[12:57] <jmbeck_> I think the shortcuts in Opera mail make me accidnetly do things... I'm not sure how it happens.
[13:00] <BluesKaj> jmbeck_, yes , unless you need to keep a database of thousands of emails on hand then an email program of your choice is the best way to go.
[13:04] <BluesKaj> I mean a regular email program as opposed to a data-based one like kmail/akonadi
[13:21] <gotwig> DO I have to compile dragon player 3 on my own, to test it with qt quick?
[13:24] <BluesKaj> gotwig, what are the advantages of version 3 over version 2 ?
[13:25] <gotwig> BluesKaj: 3 uses qt quick
[13:25] <gotwig> BluesKaj: new interface
[13:26] <c_smith> hey, I'm having trouble setting the time in KDE to the correct time (keeps give me a windows saying this: "Unable to authenticate/execute the action: 6") is there anything I can try on my end?
[13:27] <c_smith> currently says UTC where it should be listing the PDT time.
[13:28] <BluesKaj> gotwig,  have you looked here ? http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2011/08/07/dragon-player-3/
[13:29] <gotwig> BluesKaj: yes
[13:29] <gotwig> BluesKaj: I know that its not released yet
[13:30] <gotwig> why does kde not simply use launchpad -..-
[13:30] <gotwig> would simplify the whole world
[13:32] <BluesKaj> c_smith, have you tried the "digital clock settings " dialog , you can set the time zone there and make sure you use the "clock defaults to local setting as well"
[13:32] <gotwig> how do you build kde4 apps, actually? they use cmake
[13:32] <gotwig> but its not like at gnome
[13:32] <gotwig> isnt it normaly like, mkdir build cd build cmake ../ ?
[13:34] <c_smith> k
[13:35] <BluesKaj> gotwig, well, I use VLC , dragonplayer is ok , but it doesn't pass the Dolby Digital signal , it's mainly meant for analog systems
[13:35] <gotwig> how can a digital program be meant for analog systems, :D
[13:36] <gotwig> not like its old school or so.. its quite actual, with a nice interface..
[13:36] <BluesKaj> it's converted to analog at the speaker outputs on your pc
[13:36] <gotwig> I know ;P
[13:36] <gotwig> but that has nothing to do with dragonplayer
[13:38] <c_smith> BluesKaj, thanks for the info, it worked,
[13:38] <BluesKaj> c_smith, good :)
[13:39] <BluesKaj> gotwig, drgonplayer doesn't do digital codecs like DD and DTS ...it only does pcm
[13:40] <gotwig> hm
[13:40] <gotwig> why cant I compile it :/
[13:40] <gotwig> I think I am doing something wrong
[13:40] <BluesKaj> the video playback is fine , altho on my setup the colours are too pumped up
[13:51] <sonic|2> my kwin keeps crashing, anyone know how i can fix this?
[14:28] <BluesKaj> sonic|2, have you setup your graphics drivers ? or are you using the default ?
[14:28] <sonic|2> i was using the ati proprietary driver, kwin crashed that, and i couldnt get into the desktop
[14:29] <sonic|2> i had to uninstall it to use the default
[14:29] <sonic|2> now kwin crashed again
[14:29] <BluesKaj> which graphics card?
[14:30] <sonic|2> hd5850
[14:30] <BluesKaj> pci ?
[14:30] <sonic|2> yes
[14:45] <BluesKaj> sonic|2, is your installed driver the xserver-xorg-video-radeon ?
[14:46] <sonic|2> honestly, i dont know, how do i check?
[14:47] <BluesKaj> sonic|2, you may be asked to install mesa-utils , but this command will show which driver is in use , glxinfo | grep OpenGL
[14:49] <sonic|2> OpenGL vendor string: X.Org
[14:49] <sonic|2> OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD CYPRESS
[14:49] <sonic|2> OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.2
[14:49] <sonic|2> OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20
[14:49] <FloodBotK1> sonic|2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:52] <BluesKaj> sonic|2, ok , open system settings>desktop effects>advanced>composting type , choose OpenGL
[14:53] <sonic|2> that's what i had
[14:53] <BluesKaj> have now or had before ?
[14:53] <sonic|2> what i had before
[14:54] <sonic|2> it'll crash when i shut down
[14:54] <sonic|2> when i boot again kwin is disabled
[14:54] <BluesKaj> so you have xrender chosen
[14:54] <sonic|2> no, i dont have kwin enabled right now
[14:56] <sonic|2> in desktop effects it says desktop effects are not available on this system due to OpenGL compositing has crashed kwin in the past
[14:56] <BluesKaj> you mean desktop effects
[14:56] <sonic|2> right
[14:56] <sonic|2> sorry
[14:57] <BluesKaj> any crashes with desktop effects disabled ?
[14:58] <sonic|2> it only crashes when i shut down
[14:58] <sonic|2> but this time i didnt even see an error message, since i uninstalled ati driver
[14:58] <sonic|2> but it happened just like before
[14:59] <BluesKaj> have you updated/upgraded and dist-upgraded in the last few days?
[14:59] <sonic|2> i usually keep up with the system updates
[15:00] <BluesKaj> so you have opengl chosen ? or not
[15:01] <sonic|2> yes, i have always used opengl
[15:04] <BluesKaj> son I haven't used ati graphics in a while but I recall the catalyst app being quite helpful for settings etc '
[15:05] <BluesKaj> sonic|2,^
[15:05] <Peace-> BluesKaj: :) hi
[15:06] <BluesKaj> hi Peace-
[15:07] <wangchen> .
[15:08] <sonic|2> i'm pretty sure just switching the driver isnt going to solve anything
[15:08] <sonic|2> unless amd updated their driver and fixed some bugs
[15:09] <BluesKaj> catalyst isn't the bdriver it's just a gui afaik , unless it's role has changed
[15:09] <sonic|2> dont i have to install the whole package to get ccc?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> sonic|2, oh , i see what you mean ..well like i said things have changed , obviously
[15:14] <BluesKaj> sonic|2, your gpu is supported in catalyst
[15:14] <mirak> hi
[15:15] <mirak> I have an issue with KDE
[15:15] <mirak> the fonts are extremely small and unreadable
[15:15] <ed3456765456> hi, can somebody help me pls, sometimes when doing something I move the mouse and all active programs and windows appear (resized) on the screen, mow how do I do that, i checked the mouse settings but there is no such command, but sometimes it just happens
[15:15] <mirak> I have a flat screen 46"
[15:17] <sonic|2> BluesKaj: looks like there's a new version out, maybe i'll try that. wish i can see what they changed
[15:18] <BluesKaj> http://askubuntu.com/questions/124292/what-is-the-correct-way-to-install-ati-catalyst-video-driverssonic|2,
[15:18] <Sentynel> ed3456765456: it's probably moving the mouse to the top left corner of the screen. system settings > workspace behaviour > screen edges
[15:18] <BluesKaj> sonic|2,^
[15:20] <ed3456765456> Sentynel, yeah its that screen edges thing, thanks
[15:22] <BluesKaj> mirak, kmenu>computer>system settings>application appearance>fonts , after adjusting fonts , enable antialiasing , and force fonts to 120 dpi
[15:25] <wangchen> hi all, sometimes my fonts settings can automatically change alter reboot...
[15:25] <wangchen> i can't figure it out...
[15:29] <BluesKaj> wangchen, sometimes upgrades will change them , oapplication appearance>fontsr if you use root permissions to access files , to reset the fonts for root permissions , alt+f2 , kdesudo systemsettings>
[15:29] <BluesKaj> application appearance>fonts
[15:30] <BluesKaj> wangchen, i find that periodically when there are smaller upgrades to KDE the previous settings aren't saved
[15:33] <mirak> BluesKaj: I can't even read the menus
[15:34] <mirak> BluesKaj: it's just unusable
[15:34] <wangchen> BluesKaj,thank you, it's not a big problem but did a little annoying
[15:35] <BluesKaj> mirak, I use a 42" plasma , if you get close enough you should be able to read
[15:35] <mirak> well I just can't
[15:35] <mirak> and I never used KDE in like 6 years, so I can't even go blind
[15:35] <BluesKaj> wangchen, you're welcome
[15:36] <mirak> BluesKaj: i tried to force settings in X
[15:36] <mirak> i reboot
[15:36] <gotwig> hey
[15:36] <gotwig> I am searching for the following packages: qtdesktop phonon-declarative qtest-qml
[15:37] <gotwig> would be cool if you can help me, where they are located. I already installed nokia forum ppa
[15:37] <BluesKaj> gotwig, best to ask in #kubuntu-devel
[15:41] <wangchen> what's the time in your country?
[15:42] <bazhang> wangchen, how does that relate to kubuntu support issues
[15:42] <wangchen> eh.. sorry
[15:42] <Oer> xx:42:05 hour
[15:48] <BluesKaj> wangchen, its almost noon here , so 12 hrs difference , maybe
[15:50] <wangchen> yes, and i'm going to bed...
[15:51] <BluesKaj> well good night wangchen
[15:54] <qw_> hello people
[15:54] <qw_> help me please
[15:55] <qw_> i would like install game Counter Strike 1.6
[15:55] <qw_> help me
[15:56] <BluesKaj> is it linux compatible
[16:00] <BluesKaj> qw_, if it doesn't run natively on linux then it might work with wine
[16:00] <qw_> baad
[16:00] <BluesKaj> !wine | qw_
[16:18] <Shura> Hi, saw that : http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-26
[16:18] <Shura> But 2.6 is not in the repo (or is it just me ?).
[16:18]  * TheLordOfTime looks
[16:18] <bazhang> You can get it from the Kubuntu Backports PPA (alongside KDE SC 4.9). Shura
[16:20] <Shura> bazhang : i've added the repo (as mentionned in the news) but amarok 2.6 is not present
[16:20] <Shura> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports
[16:20] <bazhang> Shura, added how. and did you apt-get update after adding
[16:21] <Shura> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[16:21] <TheLordOfTime> Shura:  the news about 2.6 points to the Quantal repos, they have 2.6, and its likely in the backports.
[16:21]  * TheLordOfTime checks the backports
[16:21] <TheLordOfTime> Shura:  did you apt-get update?
[16:21] <TheLordOfTime> (with sudo)
[16:21] <Shura> Yep
[16:21] <TheLordOfTime> oh hang on a sec
[16:21] <TheLordOfTime> bazhang:  amarok: 2:2.5.0-0ubuntu4~oneiric1~ppa1
[16:22] <bazhang> TheLordOfTime, surely you mean Shura
[16:22] <TheLordOfTime> it doesnt appear to be backported for Precise.
[16:22] <Riddell> Shura: you could be right
[16:22] <TheLordOfTime> nope, i'm pointing at you.
[16:22] <TheLordOfTime> Riddell too :p
[16:22] <bazhang> thats from the amarok-2.6 page
[16:22] <TheLordOfTime> Riddell:  according to my brief scan of that backport ppa, amarok was not backported for Precise (2.6)
[16:22] <TheLordOfTime> i can confirm Quantal has 2.6, though.  :)
[16:22] <Shura> So i'm not so silly ?
[16:23] <asfyxia> Shura; did you also apt-get dist-upgrade and restart?
[16:23] <Riddell> Shura: you're very sensible
[16:24] <Shura> Yeah yeah i updated, upgrade and everything
[16:24] <asfyxia> okay, just checking ;-)
[16:24] <Riddell> Shura: ok I've run the copy command to copy it to the backports PPA again, lets see if it works this time
[16:24] <Shura> phonon-backend-gstreamer has been updated/installed but not amarok 26
[16:25] <Shura> Riddell : ok thanks
[16:26] <Shura> I'm the first to report that ?
[16:26] <Riddell> no others have said stuff but I've been too busy to look
[16:27] <Riddell> Shura: it might be due to the downtime happening in launchpad this weekend (moving data centre)
[16:27] <bazhang> first I've seen at least here
[16:27] <Shura> ok ok
[16:28] <TheLordOfTime> Riddell:  is LP moving to a new datacenter alongside the move of ubuntuforums?
[16:28] <TheLordOfTime> they seem to have the same downtime scheduled.
[16:29] <Riddell> TheLordOfTime: yes I think so
[16:40] <david__> this distribution is so awesome, thanks for all your hard work, devs! :D
[16:40] <guest_____> Can someone help me with the autodeletion of files older than 1 day? script-wise
[16:41] <david__> clarion: man find, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-finding-files-by-date/
[16:41] <david__>  find /dir -iname "file.*" -mtime -1 -print
[16:42] <david__> well, that finds files that are NOT older than one day, but it should be possible to do it the other wyay round
[16:43] <clarion> david: thanks
[16:51] <TheLordOfTime> david__:  you need to be careful with that
[16:51] <TheLordOfTime> depending on what files you're looking at.
[16:52] <TheLordOfTime> for example, you wouldnt want to purge your /etc/hosts file if its older than a day
[16:52] <TheLordOfTime> you'd want to limit the scope to just your own folders, or something.
[17:03] <Daskreech> TheLordOfTime: Or run the file as your self
[17:08] <david__> TheLordOfTime: Thanks for your concern, but i was merely telling someone else, who already quit, how to do it
[17:11] <compaq> Hi Can someone help me solve a problem with ati hd 4250 kachesvoto problem is that the picture is much worse in full screen freezes and will kachesvo as the driver is installed hd 12.14
[17:13] <compaq> Hi Can someone help me solve a problem with ati hd 4250  problem is that the picture is much worse in full screen freezes and will kachesvo as the driver is installed hd 12.14
[17:15] <newbchessplayer> i have KAlarm (a kde app) setup on two computers to start at login (its an option in the app itself). im using ubuntu on both PC's but one uses unity  2D and the other uses gnome2. Neither one of them start KAlarm on login. any suggestions?
[17:17] <marcus___> hello
[17:17] <Peace-> newbchessplayer: ask in #ubuntu it's not a kde issue
[17:17] <marcus___> anyone  know how to make apu amd lap run turbo mode on kubuntu ? it can rn on 2400 bu all i can see on buntu is 1500
[17:18] <Peace-> apu?
[17:19] <marcus___> amd a6-3420m cpu
[18:02] <lordievader> Good evening
[19:33] <peter1_> Abend
[20:17] <AceKing> I am trying to install Teamviewer 7 on a laptop running 12.04 32 bit. I've installed it on other comptuters before with no problem. After I download and double click on the deb file, the package installer opens, I click "Install Package" I put in my password, it says "Setting up Teamviewer" and then "Done" but nothing installs. Can someone help me get it installed?
[20:17] <AceKing> I just got it
[20:18] <AceKing> I needed Wine
[20:54] <gillie-monster> can some 1 help? building free computers free the needy and i am running across a lot of computers that have SoundMax Audio Device soundcards, no sound under ubuntu or kubuntu
[21:02] <pedahzur> This may be a simple question, but I haven't been able to find it in any of the settings. In KMail2, if I left-arrow at the first message in a mailbox, it wraps around to the last message.  It didn't do this in KMail1. How do I prevent this behavior?
[21:15] <gillie-monster> any one have experience with sound issues?
[21:23] <sonic|2> gillie-monster: what's your problem with sound?
[21:26] <gillie-monster> i have some laptops i am donating to the needy that have SoundMax Audio Device soundcards and im getting no sound.  alsa is not muted or turned down
[21:26] <gillie-monster> aplay -l lists an intel ich3 as the sound device
[21:27] <sonic|2> do you have pulseaudio installed?
[21:28] <gillie-monster> the one i need working asap is an ibm thinkpad r32 which is supposed to work with suse and redhat according to lenovo
[21:28] <gillie-monster> i think so let me verify that
[21:29] <sonic|2> do you have the speakers set as default device in system settings->multimedia?
[21:29] <gillie-monster> i dont understand the setting. what i have listed is mono output w/ or w/o Amplifier
[21:30] <sonic|2> where do you see that?
[21:30] <gillie-monster> phonon
[21:30] <sonic|2> hardware setup?
[21:30] <gillie-monster> ?
[21:31] <sonic|2> aren't there 3 tabs in phonon?
[21:31] <gillie-monster> oh let me open it back up
[21:32] <gillie-monster> pulseaudio installed
[21:33] <gillie-monster> card: Built in audio
[21:33] <gillie-monster> log stereo output
[21:33] <sonic|2> you can install pavucontrol, it a more user friendly gui for sound devices
[21:33] <gillie-monster> installing now
[21:34] <gillie-monster> installed
[21:35] <gillie-monster> nothing in either gui that mentions speaker or headphone
[21:36] <gillie-monster> just LFE stereo or mono output / Amplifier
[21:37] <sonic|2> that's not the name of your sound device?
[21:38] <gillie-monster> on my laptop that works i see the manufacturer name of the device, on the laptops with no sound, i see no mention of a manufacturer
[21:39] <gillie-monster> the 2 with no sound are old laptops. both have SoundMax audio. the working one is a brand new computer with ATI HDMI
[21:40] <sonic|2> some computers dont show manufacturer names, it's different between machinese
[21:40] <sonic|2> in phonon click on the device and click test, see if you get a sound there
[21:41] <gillie-monster> nope
[21:41] <gillie-monster> i should be hearing popping noises when i adjust the volume, but im not
[21:42] <gillie-monster> one of the computers has an anolog volume dial that makes lots of noise through the speakers when they are working corrently
[21:43] <gillie-monster> no noise tells me the device is sending no power to the speakers
[21:43] <sonic|2> and you said you checked the volume level in the alsamixer?
[21:43] <gillie-monster> yes
[21:44] <gillie-monster> im telling u this isnt a volume level problem. i know that for a fact. i
[21:44] <gillie-monster> if the speakers on the Compaq were working corrently u would hear static from the speakers when u adjust the volume with the dial, regaudless of if they are muted or turned down
[21:47] <sonic|2> headphones dont work either?
[21:47] <gillie-monster> yeah tried that
[21:47] <gillie-monster> total silence. normally u can hear the computer thinking if its onboard audio. all the eemi n rfi
[21:48] <gillie-monster> i get sound in windows so the hardware is good
[21:50] <gillie-monster> im thinking i should give suse a try. do u know what distro its based on?
[21:50] <sonic|2> no idea
[21:50] <sonic|2> i would double check your hardware profile again
[21:51] <gillie-monster> ?
[21:51] <sonic|2> in phonon
[21:55] <gillie-monster> tested it again
[21:55] <gillie-monster> no sound
[22:16] <snagglepuss> gillie-monster:    might want to check to see if you have an audio driver for your card installed by typing (copy/paste)  the following two commands in a terminal:   lspci | grep -i Audio
[22:17] <snagglepuss> gillie-monster:   then............   lspci -v -s 00:xx.x             (uses the 00.xx.x number from previous command ie 00:14.2)
[22:19] <snagglepuss> gillie-monster:  or can also install     inxi    which not only gives audio related information but other info concerning you system too!  (can't understand why it's not part of the default ubuntu install, imho).
[22:21] <gillie-monster> lspci says its an intel ac'97 audio, that doesnt seem corrent. windows n Lenovo.com say its a SoundMax
[22:23] <snagglepuss> gillie-monster:   the SoundMax is just the model name given by manufacturer.  the intel reference is the name of the actual sound chip itself and that is the information you need for correct drivers.   you should also see driver related information similar to the following if you have audio drivers installed:   Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
[22:23] <snagglepuss>         Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
[22:24] <gillie-monster> snd_intel8x0
[22:26] <gillie-monster> snd-intel8x0
[22:26] <snagglepuss> gillie-monster:   maybe do a google and see if there are any problems relating to that particular driver
[22:26] <gillie-monster> k
[22:27] <mirak> hi
[22:27] <mirak> KDE is unusable
[22:27] <mirak> the fonts are too tiny
[22:27] <mirak> I can't read anything
[22:28] <snagglepuss> gillie-monster:    one other thing you could try too is killing pulseaudio (or uninstalling it)....some cards don't seem to work well with pulseaudio but work ok with alsa.  again doing a google on that subject should turn up something if there is a problem with pulseaudio and that particular soundchip/card
[22:28] <mirak> I can't even read a config menu to find the right option, that's ridiculus
[22:28] <monkeyjuice> mirak:  what font size are you using
[22:29] <mirak> monkeyjuice: how could I know ?
[22:29] <mirak> I just installed kubuntu-desktop and that's it, it's unusable
[22:29] <mirak> now that gnome is unusable as well I don't know what's left good to use
[22:30] <monkeyjuice> can you get to system settings
[22:30] <mirak> monkeyjuice: I can't even read the menus or configuration option
[22:31] <monkeyjuice> ok im not sure , ill do some looking unless someone else comes
[23:37] <gillie-monster> is it normal to get a different amount of default installed packages on diff comps?   i understand the system and hardware stuff, but why do i sometimes have to manually install office n entertainment packages that come pre-installed on other systems when using the same install disk
[23:38] <gillie-monster> are the packages failing?
[23:43] <pedahzur_> Got disconnected, don't know if this was answered. This may be a simple question, but I haven't been able to find it in any of the settings. In KMail2, if I left-arrow at the first message in a mailbox, it wraps around to the last message.  It didn't do this in KMail1. How do I prevent this behavior?
[23:43] <scooter> hello
[23:43] <gillie-monster> hiya
[23:44] <Zacarias> After having installed some software (Clementine, Banshee, Gtkpod), and ripping some cd's to convert files to mp3 and then export them to an iPod, I left my computer alone and when I arrived it had become incredibly slow, almost freezing. I made some rebbots, but it keeps running slowly. Any idea? I'm using a PowerPC Mac.
[23:47] <scooter> Just updated to KDE 4.9.00 and can no longer find "Muon update manager" or any way to install software in any way shape or form, other than in a terminal, whick i am not to familar with, what am I  missing?
[23:49] <scooter> Running kubuntu latest release 12.04
[23:51] <Zacarias> scooter: try, on a terminal, sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:52] <Zacarias> scooter: and, of course, sudo apt-get install nameofthesoftware if you want to install a specific program
[23:55] <gillie-monster> how long should how long should gstreamer take to install on a 1.6 w/ 512 @ 266 w/ 5400 RPM IDE ATA66. Been installing for an hour now.
[23:56] <scooter> Zacarias, thank you, did both of thoes, update and upgrade, still nothing in the system menu to let me install software as before i updated and or upgraded to 4.9
[23:56] <gillie-monster> wouldnt question it but the HDD light aint blinkin
[23:57] <Zacarias> scooter: do you have any suggestion in krunner if you type "muon"?