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dylan-mHey, does anyone know what became of patching libsoup to have a default SSL CA file?05:36
dylan-mLooks like MVO sent a patch upstream from this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/87424205:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 874242 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Re: "Single sign on page doesn't look secure" --> well it isn't :>" [Critical,Fix released]05:36
dylan-mAnd it was wontfixed, but reading the comment (though I could be misunderstanding)  it sounds like libsoup already has a similar compile flag05:38
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dholbachgood morning07:03
dylan-mGood morning!07:03
dylan-m:o I'd better go to sleep07:03
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lenios_hey, just asking: i've reported a bug, someone wrote a patch and now it's pending for review. Who is responsible for review? package maintainer, reviewer team, me?09:52
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geserlenios_: do you have the bug number?10:08
jdrabhi guys, is there something like ubuntu HIG or some sort of guidelines for developing applications in ubuntu/unity?10:11
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Riddelljcastro: uds sponsorship broken? http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/sponsorship/10:19
Peace-how sweet is this ? avconv doens't work to grab screen10:32
Peace-and even the fake version of ffmpeg10:32
Peace-12.10 of course10:33
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dokoapw: is CONFIG_X86_X32=y set for our kernel builds on amd64?11:06
apwdoko, nope not set anywhere currently11:07
apwdoko, something you need there ?11:07
apw          You will need a recent binutils (2.22 or later) with11:08
apw          elf32_x86_64 support enabled to compile a kernel with this11:08
apw          option set.11:08
dokoapw: can you set it, afaik it should be possible to set it. well, it's not "needed", however to experiment with x32, it would be nice to have it set, if doesn't influence the amd64 build11:08
apwdoko, is our binutils new enough do you know ?11:08
dokoapw: it's 2.23 for quantal11:09
apwdoko, i don't see any issue having it set in quantal before release, security may whine if its on for release11:09
apwdoko, i'll go see if it turns on easy11:09
dokolet them whine =)11:09
infinityapw: The master plan for this release was to flip it on for the kernel and get the toolchain bits vaguely ready enough for people to play with it.11:10
seb128apw, hey, do you still plan to upload kmod? pitti said you were about to upload it before he left for holidays11:10
infinityapw: That said, there are still commits every day to glibc upstream for x32, so it's clearly not "done" yet. :P11:11
cjwatsonseb128: robert_ancell did updated versions of libburn and libisofs recently; I don't suppose you know if he's planning to do a new libisoburn as well to go with them?11:16
cjwatsonif not, I might, as part of killing the amd64+mac images11:16
seb128cjwatson, I doubt he is11:16
seb128cjwatson, he's usually trying to tackle red lines on http://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/versions.html11:17
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lenios_geser, took a long time but #102565211:30
lenios_that's funny there's a new version of unity-greeter today, but the bug is still present11:31
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geserlenios_: in this case the patch is waiting on review by upstream (Unity Greeter devs), you don't need to do anything11:40
lenios_ok thanks11:41
lenios_i hope it will be fixed by the beta11:42
xnoxbug 102565211:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1025652 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "greeter-show-manual-login is not correctly handled by lightdm" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102565211:48
tjaaltonshould dpkg in precise support handling xz tarballs?12:04
debfxtjaalton: yes12:05
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tjaaltondpkg-buildpackage insists on creating a tar.gz even when there is a .xz available..12:06
tjaaltonie. makes a native package12:06
Laneyyou mean orig.tar.xz?12:07
tjaaltonyes12:07
Laneyis it correctly set to 3.0 (quilt)?12:07
tjaalton1.0 doesn't support it?12:07
siretarttjaalton: no, you need 3.0 for xz AFAIR12:08
Laneyindeed12:08
tjaaltonoh gah..12:08
tjaaltonvery well then12:08
siretartyes, that's even documented in dpkg-source(1)12:09
tjaaltonok12:10
tjaalton3.0 hates git12:10
Laneywhat?12:12
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tjaaltontrying to avoid it where possible12:13
tjaaltonand in this case looks like I need to do tricks in order to build from git12:13
tjaaltondpkg-source: error: cannot represent change to wayland/spec/wayland-architecture.png: binary file contents changed12:13
tjaaltonetc..12:14
tjaaltonhmm something else going on, looks really weird12:14
siretarttjaalton: seems that your tree content does not match the contents of the orig.tar.gz. check the version numbers in debian/changelog with the filename you try to use12:33
siretarttjaalton: as a workaround, you can use 'dpkg-buildpackage -b' to avoid building a source package.12:34
tjaaltonsiretart: I know where it came from. for some reason upstream git has files the tarballs don't, so in this case had to just remove them and live with it12:35
tjaaltonno ChangeLog then :)12:35
siretarttjaalton: oh, yeah, I also have some upstreams that generate the tarballs with some scripts that causes the contents to be different to what is in git12:35
siretarttjaalton: there are two approaches: import the upstream tarballs or screw them :-)12:36
siretart(i mean the tarballs)12:36
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tjaaltonyes, and pkg-xorg has the habit of doing 'git log <tag> > ChangeLog' every time a new version is merged, so the diff would normally have that12:36
siretartthat shouldn't cause issues with some random .png files, though...12:37
tjaaltonthey're not in the tarballs -> nagging12:38
siretartafaiui, missing files are not a problem at all, they just cause warning "file is missing". only files with different contents are problematic12:40
tjaaltonit ignores files that are deleted, ie. missing from the git branch (like autotool files)12:41
tjaaltonthe other way around means problems12:41
cjwatsontjaalton: there's always debian/source/include-binaries12:49
tjaaltoncjwatson: hmm, thanks12:50
mpt"It's not just you! http://status.ubuntu.com looks down from here." http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/status.ubuntu.com13:06
togglesIs there a way to get a ppa to automatically build for the next version? Or do I need to change the changelog and submit it again?14:11
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geserif no rebuild is needed, then you can copy it forward otherwise (needs a rebuild) you need to reupload14:13
togglesgeser: thanks, what do you mean "copy it forward"?14:14
evmpt_:  whenever you have time for it, I think we'll need a small design for incorporating "problems my team is responsible for" on the most common problems table14:14
evvs "all problems"14:14
evthe data coming from here: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhTVBLlLWapNdHRpM2QyRGQ5NGFzZmF3ODNpZ2E3d1E&authkey=CJzt1xo&authkey=CJzt1xo#gid=014:15
gesertoggles: Launchpad has the feature to copy (source and binary packages) from one series to an other14:15
mpt_ev, that's already on my list for <https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-q-defects-dashboard>14:16
evoh, of course14:16
evexcellent14:16
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togglesgeser: thanks, I'll see if I can figure it out, much appreciated14:17
didrocksev: thanks for the openid change, I'm crossing my fingers :)14:17
evdidrocks: sure thing14:17
evapologies it took so long - the correct solution required us pulling in postgres, which I wasn't particularly keen on. I had hoped we could find a decent way of bolting the django auth model to cassandra, but that looks quite difficult14:18
evand using a separate database just for login and session caching isn't really that bad an idea14:19
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bdmurrayinfinity: what were you saying about bug 1036794 yesterday regarding it being reported about update-manager and not the package?14:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1036794 in nspr (Ubuntu Precise) "unmet dependencies during update of nspr4: libnspr4 : Breaks: evolution-plugins (< 3.2.0-0ubuntu2) but 2.32.2-0ubuntu7 is to be installed" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103679414:48
evmpt_: I can't recall what the outcome was, but if you have thoughts on how we can do a better present the information in the most common errors table than by the current confusing colour system, do let me know.14:56
mpt_ev, I think step 1 is to list the variables you're trying to present. Apparently regressed vs. fixed vs. never fixed, reported in latest version vs. not, what else?14:58
evmpt_: there's the 'last seen' version is not the most recent -> greyed out last seen, the linked bug is marked as complete -> greyed out line, the last seen version is the most recent version and the linked bug is marked as complete -> red last seen.15:01
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evand of course, links you've clicked on are blue15:01
seb128ev, I find it weird that errors.ubuntu.com has no error ever on gconf2 about gsettings-data-convert where we regularly have bugs in convert scripts and quite some reports on launchpad about those15:01
mpt_ev, What does "complete" include?15:01
seb128ev, do you know how we could figure out why that's so?15:02
evmpt_: whatever launchpad considers a complete bug. I believe that's Invalid, Wont Fix, and Fix Released15:03
evseb128: looking15:03
xnoxev: Opinion?!15:04
evthat too15:04
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xnoxcjwatson: do you have the link to task for opening archive... again... me and micahg can't find it again =)15:19
xnoxfound it15:19
xnoxmicahg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewReleaseCycleProcess15:19
micahgxnox: thanks, bookmarked15:20
xnoxprobably needs a new sections of "Things to do for Radiant Raccoon"15:21
Laneyyou expect something special?15:21
xnoxLaney: yes we do =)15:21
Laneysinister...15:24
cjwatsonxnox: Is this just misc changes we need to remember to make to various packages?15:26
xnoxcjwatson: aha15:27
shadeslayercjwatson: I wanted to add a custom task for my derivative, can I just edit /usr/share/tasksel/ubuntu-tasks.desc and go with that? or should I modify the tasksel package?15:42
shadeslayer( I've tried the former and it doesn't seem to work, probably I'm doing something wrong )15:42
cjwatsonshadeslayer: If you can modify tasksel in your derivative, you should15:42
shadeslayerawesome15:43
* shadeslayer modifies tasksel15:43
cjwatsonshadeslayer: But you also need to arrange to have appropriate Task fields in your archive's Packages files15:43
shadeslayerah15:43
cjwatsonThe usual arrangement is to use "extra overrides" in apt-ftparchive15:43
cjwatsonBut it will depend a bit on your archive software15:43
shadeslayerhmm .. I'm using reprepro15:43
shadeslayercjwatson: the files in indicies are exported by tasksel right?16:04
mterrybarry, hello!  I'm looking at pycurl right now and note it doesn't have a python3 port.  There are patches floating around, any objection to me applying one?16:22
infinitybdmurray: I was saying that it would be nice if apport/errors didn't get it wrong. :P16:23
mterryEr, not just one of them, but the one pointed at by the python3 spreadsheet16:23
bdmurrayinfinity: right, and how I can help make it right?16:34
cjwatsonshadeslayer: no, they're generated by the archive machinery16:36
shadeslayerhmm16:36
cjwatsonI'm afraid they're your problem to deal with - I can only support the Ubuntu archive here :)16:36
shadeslayerthen something is wrong with the way I've setup reprepro16:36
shadeslayercjwatson: yeah, I understand :)16:37
cjwatsonindices/ output isn't mandatory16:37
cjwatsonit's basically informational and to help people do matching apt-ftparchive runs and the like16:37
cjwatsonthe important bits are the Task: fields in Packages16:37
shadeslayerah ok16:37
infinitybdmurray: I dunno, do something programmy to it? ;)16:38
TJ-When I "bzr push lp:~tj/gnome-control-center/fix-123456" to my LP, should it be sending the entire local repo or just the diff (originally got using bzr branch lp:ubuntu/precise-updates/gnome-control-center) ?16:38
infinitybdmurray: The error in question, I think, was "clearly" an issue with either libnspr4 (or one of its dependencies) and, while it's not foolproof to do so, still seems like a regex to try to sort out to blame the package that can't be installed makes more sense than blaming the package manager.16:39
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cjwatsonTJ-: Branches pushed to LP are generally "stacked", which saves pushing the whole thing.  However, what they're stacked on depends on where you push it.  In this case you're pushing it to an upstream-type location which will mean it'll stack on lp:gnome-control-center, whatever that may be, and very likely not having anything in common with your branch.16:49
cjwatsonTJ-: You should probably push to lp:~tj/ubuntu/precise-updates/gnome-control-center/fix-123456 instead.16:49
TJ-cjwatson: Yeah, I tried "precise-updates" and got "Denied" which is why I asked. However, mgz in #bzr has sorted me out so I'm now just pushing the delta between 'precise' and my fix16:50
TJ-cjwatson: My 'git' head still has trouble grok-ing bzr and launchpad integration. Thanks for the heads-up.16:51
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killownTHANKS AGAIN by messing with ubuntu, now it's opengl things wine game screens doesn't work after the last update that bring mesa, compiz and opengl things, "THANKS AGAIN"16:58
killownsudo apt-get upgrade it far more dangerous than rm -rf /16:59
mdeslaurkillown: how about filing a bug instead of coming here to rant?16:59
killownevery upgrade more bizarre bugs comes16:59
killownI am tired from filling bugs, what about don't touch on what already is working?16:59
seb128killown, what about you just stay on a stable version where thing don't change so often?17:03
killownam I not on a stable distro?17:03
killown12.0417:03
killownNO PPA's17:03
seb128nothing brigs compiz and opengl in 12.0417:03
cjwatsonseb128: compiz had a new version in precise-updates 21 hours ago, according to LP17:04
seb128cjwatson, it doesn't has any new requirement17:05
seb128cjwatson, that new compiz doesn't bring any opengl over what the previous one did17:05
seb128but maybe I misread the statement17:05
killownbrings a new bug17:06
seb128what mdeslaur said then17:06
seb128open a bug17:06
shadeslayercjwatson: ok, I'm trying to understand what ubuntu-seeds.pl does, but I'm a bit confused, it branches the seeds, and then ... what does it do?17:07
killownwhile that I can't play my steam games, it's cool17:07
cjwatsonshadeslayer: I would be very surprised if it did anything that's appropriate for you ...17:07
shadeslayeryeah .. I think using tasksel would be overkill17:07
seb128killown, log into unity2d to play17:07
cjwatsonshadeslayer: no, that wasn't my point17:08
seb128killown, or downgrade whatever you upgraded17:08
cjwatsonshadeslayer: ubuntu-seeds.pl generates the files in ubuntu-tasks/ based on the Ubuntu seeds17:08
shadeslayeroh ok17:08
cjwatsonshadeslayer: but there's no reason you can't just edit those files directly as long as your changes aren't directed at the Ubuntu archive17:08
shadeslayerright17:08
cjwatsonit's just to help us maintain them17:08
killownseb128, even on kde disabling the effects doesn't fix this17:08
shadeslayermakes sense, I'll skip using ubuntu-seeds.pl then17:08
seb128killown, so it's not compiz17:08
seb128KDE doesn't use compiz17:09
killownseb128, its not17:09
killownthe upgrade list comes with alot opengl things and mesa17:09
killowncompiz is one of those17:09
seb128well, try to downgrade until you figure which one created your issue?17:09
stgrabermesa was indeed updated but unless you're using an i3 ivy bridge CPU, you won't get any difference17:09
stgraberthe only diff in mesa was reducing the number of threds on i3 ivy bridge GPUs to fix pretty bad screen corruptions17:10
shadeslayercjwatson: the other question I had was, I don't see anything remotely related to the Task field in the debian policy manual17:10
cjwatsonshadeslayer: I wouldn't expect you to17:10
shadeslayeroh ...17:10
cjwatsonshadeslayer: the Packages format is extensible ...17:10
cjwatsonshadeslayer: it's not required for every field there to be specified in policy17:10
cjwatsonshadeslayer: only the ones that generally need to be assigned values by individual packages, which this doesn't17:11
cjwatsoneven then, only the ones that need widespread cooperation17:11
cjwatsonthe policy manual is basically there to document the things required of individual packages for interoperability, rather than a detailed guide to the entire system17:12
shadeslayeralright ...17:12
shadeslayercjwatson: thanks for all the help so far, I hope I wasn't too annoying ;)17:16
cjwatsonthat's ok17:16
killowntake a look http://i.imgur.com/aOzF5.jpg17:16
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bryceh@pilot in17:42
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barrymterry: go for it!  and thanks.17:48
mterrybarry, awesome17:48
killownany developer needs downgrade the last packages updates, I tested with wine1.4, wine1.5 AND it's what I get http://i.imgur.com/aOzF5.jpg?  how I can filling a bug for that? this screen is all what I get, wine output doesn't tell where this opengl error is from17:51
killownhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1151115/17:55
cjwatsonthere's no reason you can't file a bug with what you have so far - any change to a stable release would require a bug report anyway for tracking17:57
cjwatsonpeople aren't saying "file a bug" to get rid of you, but because that's how we track problems17:57
lbordacjwatson, hi17:58
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cjwatsonlborda: hello.  your previous comments in my direction were lost in the IRC client I closed down a while ago when shuffling network connections17:58
lbordacjwatson, no problem... tks anyway... I am having some weird problems when preseeding 12.04 and using ONLY a local mirror... no internet access17:59
killowncjwatson, but how can one distro be called stable with this kind of bug? this impede me from use wine, and more now  that valve is coming for linux this kind of thing can't happen with linux, this is a shame18:00
cjwatsonkillown: I'm not going to engage with rants, I'm afraid - too much work to do18:00
cjwatsonlborda: ok, can you show me logs and the preseed file in question?18:00
lbordacjwatson, yes here is the preseed: https://pastebin.canonical.com/72357/18:01
* rmk_ finds a bug in precise's vlc xv backend18:01
rmk_it appears that it remembers the wrong fourcc code to pass back into PutImage18:01
rmk_and with the additional check that xorg >= 1.9.99 does, it gets a BadMatch error back18:02
lbordacjwatson, it follows the logs too: https://pastebin.canonical.com/72359/18:02
lbordacjwatson, it looks like debian-installer is not able to fetch from the local mirror. there is no internet access on the environment...18:03
lbordacjwatson, i am using 12.04.1 latest netboot files18:03
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killownok, so now I fill a bug with that wait for a week without can use wine and last upgrade some new bugs that impede me from use other programs? ok enough, I am going to look for another distro, thanks you all.18:03
cjwatsonlborda: did you remember to include the debian-installer Packages files?18:03
cjwatsonlborda: in the local mirror, I mean18:04
cjwatsonlborda: i.e. dists/precise/main/debian-installer/binary-amd64/18:05
TJ-Anyone familiar with gnome-control-center source? I have an FTBS issue that is confusing me18:05
lbordacjwatson, haaaaaaaaaaaaa.... no i didn't...18:06
cjwatsonlborda: it's not ideal that the missing URLs aren't displayed in the logs; that's worth a bug report18:06
lbordacjwatson, yeah ... i noticed that too...18:07
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shadeslayercjwatson: weird, even after modifying tasksel ( added a custom task to ubuntu-tasks ), live build doesn't seem to pick it up18:08
lbordacjwatson, , I will open up a bug on this one18:09
cjwatsonI think you're confused about what tasksel's for :)18:09
cjwatsonanyway, I'd need more detail on how it's not picking it up18:09
cjwatsontasksel needs to be updated because otherwise tasksel won't show the right tasks.  but it has roughly nothing to do with live-build.18:09
shadeslayeruh .... ok .... so something is wrong with my meta package then? ( it doesn't have a Task entry in the control file atm )18:10
cjwatsontypically live-build gets its notion of tasks from the Packages files.18:10
cjwatsonTask does not belong in debian/control.18:10
cjwatsonIt is supposed to be autogenerated by the archive software.18:10
cjwatsonIf this is all too hard then you should just tell live-build to use metapackages rather than tasks.18:10
shadeslayerhm18:10
shadeslayercjwatson: the problem with that is that it's generating a huge poo18:11
shadeslayer*pool18:11
cjwatsonbeing shouted at here.  cannot help you now.18:11
shadeslayeruhh ... I'm not sure how I shouted at you 0.o18:12
LaneyI suspect the shouting is IRL18:12
shadeslayeroh ... ok18:13
cjwatsonyes, I have children and it's dinnertime.18:14
cjwatsonanyway, I have no idea why using metapackages might be related to generating a huge pool; you're probably in the best position to dig into that18:14
cjwatsonwhen you're responsible for image building for a distribution you kind of get used to diagnosing this kind of thing :)18:15
cjwatsonbut it's very hard to do without being in front of the failing build18:15
shadeslayercjwatson: understandable :)18:17
shadeslayeranywho, still looking into it18:17
cjwatsonyou could dig up the old cron.germinate from Launchpad from before it was converted to be a more native Launchpad script, I suppose, and wire that in to generate Task fields18:17
cjwatsonbut if you aren't already familiar with it I suspect that would be a fair bit of work ...18:18
cjwatsonand it's not obvious it makes sense unless you're operating at an Ubuntu kind of scale18:18
shadeslayer:)18:19
shadeslayerafaictl, add_package pulls the meta package during the binary stage of the ISO build as well18:19
shadeslayerso all the debs get downloaded again, and you get a huge pool of packages on the CD18:20
shadeslayerright now, I've done a bit of hackery to check if that works18:20
* shadeslayer might switch to apt-ftparchive if he can't figure out what's wrong with reprepro18:23
lbordacjwatson, where do I get the debian-installer packages files?18:23
lbordacjohnston, I do have inside main this: ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-amd64/18:23
lbordacjwatson, I do have inside main this: ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-amd64/18:24
TJ-Anyone help with FTBS gnome-control-center: "error: ‘cc_shell_marshal_VOID__VOID’ undeclared" ... there's a weird cc-shell-marshal.list containing "VOID:VOID" which seems related but I cannot find any way to build a header file from it using the debian/rules18:37
dobeyTJ-: there should be a cc-shell-marshal.[ch] which get built automatically during the build; glib-genmarshal gets run to generate them18:39
TJ-dobey: Yeah, that's the problem. It's not compiling those afresh. The Makefile seems to show they should be included in the target gnome_control_center_SOURCES18:40
stokachuhi, could i get someone to approve series nomination for http://pad.lv/103683418:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1036834 in gdb (Ubuntu) "gdb should be marked "Multi-arch: allowed"" [Medium,In progress]18:41
stokachuhi, could i get someone to approve series nomination for http://pad.lv/1036834 (sorry if double post, lagged out)18:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1036834 in gdb (Ubuntu) "gdb should be marked "Multi-arch: allowed"" [Medium,In progress]18:43
stokachubryceh: are you willing to review some multi-arch patches?18:43
dobeyTJ-: right, and it should also have a rule to build them18:44
micahgstokachu: I don't know that :any is allowed in binary dependencies  in precise18:47
micahgISTR that being limited to a few packages as a build dependency only18:48
TJ-dobey: I've followed the rules from the "cc-shell-marshal.c: cc-shell-marshal.list" > MARSHAL_FILES > gnome_control_center_SOURCES >  SOURCES | DIST_SOURCES > ID | TAGS | CTAGS ... got lost there!18:50
stokachuslangasek: can you clarify micah's comment for precise?18:50
TJ-dobey: strange. Working from the bzr branch. I had to "touch shell/cc-shell-marshal.list" to get it to rebuild18:57
TJ-With gnome-control-center doing "bzr builddeb -S" results in "OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '<path>/INSTALL'". I'm trying to figure out why since that file isn't in the original bzr branch. However, it is listed in Makefile.am "MAINTAINERCLEANFILES="19:22
TJ-Does this require a patch to Makefile.am too, in order to successfully build the source package ready for uploading?19:22
lbordacjwatson, yes it works now! I am using apt-mirror for doing that! tks!19:25
brycehstokachu, I'm not the best to review multi-arch srus.  the few I've dealt with I've run by slangasek.19:26
stokachubryceh: ok np, thanks for the quick reply19:27
brycehstokachu, but I can definitely help with the sru mechanics if you get the multiarch bits squared with him19:27
stokachubryceh: ok sounds good ill talk with him to see when he has some free time19:28
stokachumicahg: wouldn't allowed mean either or?19:29
micahgstokachu: it's your premise that I had an issue with, not allowed per se, anyways, I have to go, but will check scrollback later19:42
stokachumicahg: sorry i wasn't suggesting anything was just trying to understand19:44
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trismTJ-: your branch builds fine here, might just need a bzr revert to restore the deleted files20:16
TJ-trism: Thanks, yes. I had my git head on and was trying to do "bzr checkout" to restore the working tree... what foxed me was "bzr log -n 0 INSTALL" wasn't showing any history for that file, which made me think it had never been in bzr20:18
TJ-trism:  and a previous fakeroot debian/clean had invoked the maintainer_clean which had removed that file, grrr20:19
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cjwatsonlborda: glad to hear it22:53
infinitycjwatson: *nudge*22:55
cjwatsoninfinity: you'll have to wait a bit ...22:58
infinitycjwatson: S'all good.  elmo found himself a workaround.22:58
bryceh@pilot out23:58
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