[13:51] <stokachu> o/
[13:52] <smartboyhw> 12.04.1 meeting again or what?
[13:52] <arges> i think its about 8m early right now
[14:00] <stgraber> #startmeeting 12.04.1 team meeting
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[14:00] <stgraber> NCommander, seb128, stokachu, arges, jibel, skaet, smoser, jamespage: ping
[14:00] <seb128> hey
[14:00] <stokachu> hai
[14:00] <jibel> hello
[14:00] <stgraber> wow, everyone is in the channel, that's a first ;)
[14:00] <arges> o/
[14:00] <jamespage> o/
[14:01] <skaet> o/
[14:01] <jamespage> smoser won't be joining us today...
[14:01] <stgraber> ok
[14:01] <stgraber> That's our last meeting before the 12.04.1 release. I'll cancel next week's meeting as we'll have either released already or be busy with the release.
[14:01]  * skaet nods
[14:01] <stgraber> #topic Action items review
[14:01] <stgraber> xnox to liase with ballons, gema and jibel w.r.t. fs/storage testing
[14:01] <stgraber> the usual ;)
[14:01] <jibel> no news from xnox
[14:01] <jibel> as usual
[14:01] <xnox> stgraber: hmm. I actually should now. =)
[14:02] <stokachu> lol
[14:02] <xnox> jibel: crypto has landed in ubiquity, would it be hard to add a desktop test case to jenkins with crypto enabled?
[14:02] <xnox> jibel: also i now want some new build-types, where the preseed changes the default filesystem to btrfs
[14:02] <xnox> e.g. for ubuntu-server & ubuntu-desktop
[14:03] <xnox> jibel: does it need to be pre-seedable, cause it isn't currently?
[14:03]  * xnox maybe we should move this conversation to #ubuntu-testing?
[14:04] <jibel> xnox, can we talk with gema after the meeting ?
[14:04] <xnox> jibel: ok
[14:04] <jibel> xnox, thx
[14:04] <stgraber> #topic Review of upcoming deadlines
[14:04] <stgraber>   - today 21:00 UTC: FinalFreeze, ReleaseNoteFreeze
[14:04] <stgraber>   - 2012/08/23: Ubuntu 12.04.1
[14:05] <stgraber> That says it all, please make sure everything's ready for the release on your side and talk to us in #ubuntu-release if you need help with something
[14:05] <stgraber> #topic Quick look through the current bug lists, checking for progress.
[14:05] <stgraber> Verification is ongoing, please help where you can: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
[14:05] <stgraber> Additional tracking is done at: http://pad.ubuntu.com/12-04-1-preparation
[14:05] <stgraber> Remaining packages in the queue to be accepted into -proposed: xfwm4 (per xubuntu's request)
[14:06] <stgraber> we'll be keeping the list of things to copy to -updates before spinning the 12.04.1 candidates on that pad, so if you have something in the queue that you need in 12.04.1, make sure it's fully tested and add it to the pad
[14:06] <stokachu> stgraber: i finished several sru's last night.. these will be pushed out after 12.04.1?
[14:06] <stgraber> stokachu: yeah
[14:06] <stgraber> Images now only use -updates, so we'll be doing some copies from -proposed to -updates before the 7 days mark for packages that we want in the point release.
[14:07] <stgraber> The images built after 21:00 UTC today will be candidates so changes will only go in if absolutely required.
[14:07] <stokachu> ok sounds good
[14:07] <stgraber> #topic Whoopsie (seb128)
[14:07] <seb128> turn it off!!! ;-)
[14:07] <stgraber> seb128: I remember you discussing with slangasek and saying this should be discussed here
[14:08] <seb128> it should be decided there apparently yes
[14:08] <stgraber> ev, slangasek: ping
[14:08] <seb128> I'm still unsure what's the right process, who is the right person to decide
[14:08] <seb128> I feel like we need slangasek
[14:09] <ev> pong
[14:09] <stgraber> ok, might still be a bit early for him (7am), we can continue with the roundtable and hopefully he'll show up during that time
[14:09] <seb128> ok
[14:10] <stgraber> ev: we might need you for some whoopsie question in a few minutes, kind of hoping slangasek will show up
[14:10] <stgraber> #topic Round table
[14:10] <ev> sure thing
[14:10] <stgraber> stgraber@castiana:~$ echo $(shuf -e NCommander seb128 stgraber stokachu arges jibel skaet jamespage)
[14:10] <stgraber> seb128 stgraber skaet stokachu NCommander jibel jamespage arges
[14:11] <seb128> hey
[14:11] <seb128> nothing specific from desktop, things look good
[14:11] <seb128> ..
[14:11] <stgraber> that's good to hear ;)
[14:11] <stgraber> stgraber:
[14:11] <stgraber> We've been fighting with some apt ordering problems, mostly for 10.04.4 to 12.04 upgrades
[14:12] <stgraber> then causing a regression for people who upgraded all the way from jaunty to precise (with all the required hops)
[14:12] <stgraber> these two should be fixed once nspr lands in -updates
[14:12] <stgraber> I've also been looking at some chinese images bugs, one fix is now in -proposed (ubiquity) and we might still need a tweak to the seeds that I need to investigate this morning
[14:13] <stgraber> besides that, I think that things look good and we should be ready by 21:00 UTC
[14:13] <stgraber> skaet:
[14:13] <skaet> Release Notes in progress.   Doing delta and change log analysis today.
[14:13] <skaet> Review of last few fixes and determine what’s safe to move to updates.
[14:13] <skaet> Chinese image building.
[14:13] <skaet> Setting up pad.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-release for the 12.04.1.
[14:13] <skaet> ..
[14:14] <stgraber> skaet: I'll merge my pad into the ubuntu-release one once we're in final freeze, less things to watch
[14:14] <stgraber> stokachu:
[14:14] <stokachu> finished known list of multi-arch bugs, waiting in sru queue. let concerned parties know they will slip for .1
[14:15] <stokachu> worked with infinity to get tzdata updated for all series (i think that will make it into installer)
[14:15] <stokachu> ...
[14:15] <stgraber> NCommander:
[14:16] <stgraber> jibel:
[14:16] <jibel> Continued with upgrade testing and SRU verification (latest verification are tzdata on Precise and nspr)
[14:17] <jibel> Added automated test for upgrades with -updates enabled and upgrades with -proposed enabled
[14:17] <jibel> We are currently testing automatically:
[14:17] <jibel> - profiles desktop, server, server-tasks, main-all, universe from lucid/oneiric to precise with -proposed enabled
[14:17] <jibel> - profiles desktop, server, server-tasks from lucid/oneiric to precise with -updates enabled
[14:17] <jibel> No obvious bug found from smoketesting of desktop images
[14:17] <stokachu> jibel: tzdata 2012e?
[14:17] <jibel> 1 question:
[14:18] <jibel> stokachu, yes, the version in proposed
[14:18] <stokachu> awesome thanks for that
[14:18] <jibel> skaet, there is no wubi to test 12.04.1 candidates
[14:18] <jibel> skaet, did you talk to ev ?
[14:19] <ev> jibel: there is...
[14:19] <ev> http://people.canonical.com/~evand/wubi/precise/wubi-r269-signed.exe
[14:19] <ev> and any CD spins since the 9th should have it
[14:20] <jibel> ev, does it download images from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/precise/wubi/current/ ?
[14:21] <ev> ahhh rubbish
[14:21] <ev> it gets the final release from the right place
[14:21] <ev> but not the dailies
[14:21] <ev> ugh.
[14:21] <ev> fixing
[14:21] <jibel> ev, thank you!
[14:22] <jibel> ..
[14:22] <stgraber> jamespage:
[14:22] <slangasek> stgraber: hey, I'm around but on a call
[14:22] <jamespage> one bug to highlight - bug 973741
[14:23] <jamespage> as its not yet accepted into -proposed I think it unlikely to make 12.04.1 ...
[14:23] <stgraber> right, a quick look doesn't show it being an installer blocker or even early post-install blocker for 12.04.1, so having it land right after it should be fine
[14:24] <jamespage> stgraber, I agree
[14:24] <jamespage> I'm out for the next 10 days or so on leave - so smoser will be the man to hassle for server stuff
[14:24] <jamespage> ..
[14:24] <stgraber> ok
[14:24] <stgraber> arges:
[14:25] <arges> stgraber,  no updates
[14:25] <arges> just fyi. i have been updating
[14:25] <arges> http://people.canonical.com/~arges/point-release/milestone-12.04.1.html
[14:25] <arges> instead of hte other page btw
[14:25] <arges> ..
[14:26] <stgraber> #topic AOB
[14:27] <stgraber> slangasek: any idea of when you'll be out of that call? we need to make a decision for whoopsie
[14:27] <slangasek> stgraber: at the end of the hour ;)
[14:27] <slangasek> stgraber: are you ready to discuss now?
[14:28] <stgraber> slangasek: well, we have time left in this meeting, it was on the agenda (well, kinda) and seb128 and ev are around, but I'm happy to discuss it later, we just need to make a decision before 21:00 UTC
[14:29] <arges> stgraber, just a question: do we know how active whoopsie has been for current precise users?
[14:29] <ev> arges: 1,669,672 unique systems in the past 90 days.
[14:29] <seb128> stgraber, slangasek: I'm still around at the end of the hour
[14:30] <stokachu> whenever a whoopsie occurs a dude should pop out of the corner saying 'whooopsie' like in mortal kombat
[14:30] <arges> ev,  : ) nice, how many unique bugs?
[14:30] <slangasek> we don't know how many unique bugs with any certainty; bdmurray identified a bug that was causing partial reports to be submitted which means many of them are not being bucketed right now
[14:31] <stgraber> arges: last stats were of an average of 0.48 crash per day for users who submitted a crash in the past (<total for Tuesday>/<total users>)
[14:31] <ev> slangasek: they'll still be bucketed. The reports will just be missing some fields. So it will more affect the unique users in 90 days count per release
[14:32] <seb128> slangasek, what do you mean "not being bucketed"? you suggested that we have too many reported ... or do we discard some due to the bug?
[14:32] <ev> slangasek: as the fields that are missing are usually the Package and DistroRelease, not the crash signature.
[14:35] <stgraber> seb128, ev, slangasek: so should we meet in 25min in #ubuntu-release so we don't force slangasek into multi-tasking?
[14:35] <ev> works for me
[14:35] <slangasek> ok
[14:35] <stgraber> #endmeeting
[14:35] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Aug 16 14:35:52 2012 UTC.
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[14:35] <stgraber> thanks everyone!
[14:36] <seb128> ok
[14:36] <seb128> thanks
[14:36] <jibel> thanks stgraber
[14:36] <arges> thanks
[14:36] <smartboyhw>  Thanks
[14:37] <skaet> thanks
[17:00]  * pleia2 waves
[17:00]  * micahg waves
[17:00] <YokoZar> howdy
[17:00]  * cyphermox waves
[17:00] <micahg> (from the audience)
[17:01] <pleia2> #startmeeting
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[17:01] <pleia2> Community Council meeting :) welcome all
[17:01] <czajkowski> aloha
[17:01] <sabdfl> allo allo
[17:01] <pleia2> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[17:01] <Gwaihir> o/
[17:02] <pleia2> so I think the only thing we really have on the agenda is catching up with the 12:00 membership board
[17:02] <pleia2> #topic Ubuntu Membership Board GMT+ catchup
[17:02] <pleia2> who all is here from that board?
[17:02] <cyphermox> o/
[17:02] <czajkowski> cyphermox: hey there
[17:02]  * cjohnston is from 2200, but I'm here
[17:03] <pleia2> the boards are rather fluid anyway, all welcome
[17:03] <cyphermox> czajkowski: hi :)
[17:03]  * micahg is GMT- (US) 
[17:03] <hggdh> o/
[17:03] <sabdfl> o/
[17:03] <pleia2> we pretty much just take this opportunity to check in, make sure there aren't any problems or blockers, ask for nice stories :)
[17:03]  * hggdh is flexible
[17:03]  * micahg doesn't quite understand how GMT+ is descriptive of a time
[17:04] <cyphermox> pleia2: it seems to me as though the new split of the boards is working pretty well to both get good time coverage, and avoid meetings without quorum
[17:05] <cyphermox> the biggest issue I've noticed (and it wasn't all that much, just complicated) was for some applicants in Myanmar IIRC who can't sign the CoC.
[17:05] <cyphermox> I'm not certain of the current status of that
[17:05] <czajkowski> cyphermox: I asked the user to let us know exactly what steps they were taking
[17:05] <micahg> there's also an issue of people not realizing that significant and sustained contributions are required for membership
[17:05] <hggdh> indeed
[17:06] <hggdh> but I think this has always been the case
[17:06] <czajkowski> so launchpad could look into it and possibly see if another keyserver should be used.
[17:06] <czajkowski> micahg: what do you mea?
[17:06] <czajkowski> are people applying too soon or not tracking their work ?
[17:06] <cjohnston> Possibly both.
[17:06] <cjohnston> imo
[17:06] <cjohnston> Or either
[17:06] <micahg> yeah
[17:07] <cyphermox> agree. We've had some (few) applications for membership thought of as a permission to contribute, basically
[17:07]  * pleia2 nods
[17:08] <cyphermox> I think we did a good job at explaining the idea though; and it was well received and understood
[17:08] <sabdfl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu is still accurate at first glance
[17:09] <sabdfl> perhaps exhaustingly so :)
[17:09] <cyphermox> The issue I think is that we can hardly make it clearer on the wiki, so yes we're dependent on people actually reading the pages
[17:09] <YokoZar> cyphermox: That worries me about some unseen portion of people not contributing because they don't want to bother applying for membership
[17:10] <cyphermox> YokoZar: I wonder if that would really stop people from contributing?
[17:10] <pleia2> even https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards does link to the membership guidelines, and that's the page they add their name to, so it is at least seen (if not read)
[17:10] <YokoZar> Perhaps it's a thing of making "Ubuntu Membership" a more visible concept than "contribute to ubuntu"
[17:10] <YokoZar> (for some instances)
[17:10] <cyphermox> pleia2: sabdfl: perhaps we could like to ContributeToUbuntu from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[17:11] <micahg> well,  who to apply for rights is wrong on that wiki page (I don't think I've ever seen that page before :))
[17:11] <micahg> on the ContributeToUbuntu page that is
[17:11] <pleia2> cyphermox: maybe something like "Not ready for membership yet? Learn more about how you can ContributeToUbuntu"
[17:11] <cyphermox> but I don't think it's going to change all that much; I'm afraid there will always be a portion of people who don't read or don't understand what we mean, due to the language barrier maybe.
[17:11] <pleia2> cyphermox: agreed
[17:12] <cyphermox> I think it's far fvrom being a moajority of the applications that really run into this kind of problem, we can always explain in more detail during the meeting
[17:12] <czajkowski> well we could ask the community to help translate the pages?
[17:12] <hggdh> that would be nice
[17:12] <cyphermox> cjohnston: yes
[17:12] <cyphermox> woops
[17:13] <czajkowski> cyphermox: :)
[17:13] <czajkowski> ok I'll look into getting the membership age translated if folks want
[17:13] <czajkowski> pleia2: sabdfl YokoZar that seem like a good ide?
[17:13] <czajkowski> *idea
[17:13] <pleia2> yes, thanks :)
[17:13] <cyphermox> I can spend some time to translate it to French, perhaps
[17:14] <czajkowski> pleia2: action me that and will sort that out monday
[17:14] <czajkowski> or tomorrow before I leave
[17:14] <pleia2> #action czajkowski to look into into getting the /Membership wiki page translated
[17:14] <meetingology> ACTION: czajkowski to look into into getting the /Membership wiki page translated
[17:15] <sabdfl> perhaps we just need a simplified version in the local language?
[17:16] <hggdh> or perhaps a simplified version also in English, pointing to the full version
[17:16] <hggdh> where we only hightlight the points
[17:16] <cyphermox> hggdh: +1
[17:17] <pleia2> #action Membership board to look into writing simplified membership page
[17:17] <meetingology> ACTION: Membership board to look into writing simplified membership page
[17:17] <pleia2> there :)
[17:18] <hggdh> heh
[17:18] <pleia2> anything else?
[17:18] <hggdh> not from me, I am happy as a drunken clam
[17:19] <pleia2> thanks for coming, we'll invite you guys back on September 20th if other members wish to join us at a meeting then
[17:19] <hggdh> cheers
[17:19] <pleia2> (might even plan to follow up on how this membership page stuff is going)
[17:19] <pleia2> #topic Any other business
[17:19]  * hggdh goes for a lunch
[17:19] <pleia2> anyone have anything else they wish to announce or bring up during this CC meeting?
[17:20] <czajkowski> just the CoC review
[17:20] <czajkowski> any update YokoZar ?
[17:20] <YokoZar> Is it just waiting on me now?
[17:21] <YokoZar> Or are there still sections we needed to redo in other ways
[17:21] <pleia2> YokoZar: can you have a look at the etherpad and update language/grammar issues?
[17:21] <pleia2> then dholbach will check in the changes and we'll review again
[17:21] <YokoZar> Yeah.  I was holding off a bit on a couple sections cause I thought we might redo them to mean something different.
[17:21] <YokoZar> But I'll take a hack at it today then.
[17:22] <pleia2> we're pretty much set, just give me a nudge if you're unsure about any sections (I think it could use a little cleanup)
[17:22] <YokoZar> Sorry I got disconnected for last 10 minutes somehow :/
[17:22] <micahg> o/
[17:23] <YokoZar> Anyway there was something I wanted to discuss (that micahg brought up earlier) :)
[17:23]  * ejat sorry im late, just arrive home from work .. 
[17:23]  * micahg puts his DMB hat on
[17:23] <YokoZar> Yup
[17:24] <YokoZar> The idea is pretty simple: Remove the instant grant of membership that being granted upload rights has.
[17:24] <YokoZar> and in so doing remove the requirement that an uploader be a member
[17:24] <pleia2> beuno was supposed to send an email to the DMB board list to discuss that, but he's been quite busy
[17:24] <YokoZar> Noting that uploading could in itself be a kind of significant/sustained contribution that could one day grant membership
[17:24] <pleia2> can you?
[17:24] <YokoZar> Sure
[17:24] <sabdfl> in the name of accelerating upload permissions for promising contributors who don't yet meet the "substantial and sustained" test?
[17:25] <micahg> sabdfl: yes, exactly
[17:25] <sabdfl> sounds sensible
[17:25] <YokoZar> sabdfl: precisely.  Maybe someone is trusted for a single package that they upload once a year or something.
[17:25] <sabdfl> oh, i thought we did this when we introduced per-package-uploads, and package sets?
[17:25] <pleia2> the meeting it was discussed and action item are from early july: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil/TeamReports/12/July
[17:25] <cyphermox> it sounds like a nice idea, but don't we already look for significant/sustained contributions to grant upload rights?
[17:26] <pleia2> cyphermox: not so much for PPUs
[17:26] <cyphermox> ah; right
[17:26] <YokoZar> cyphermox: for general "I am Ubuntu developer and can upload to all of universe" we would though
[17:27] <cyphermox> yes, I understand the issue is far more specific to PPU rights :)
[17:27]  * cyphermox goes to lunch
[17:27] <YokoZar> #action YokoZar to email DMB ~ membership not being required for PPU rights
[17:27] <meetingology> ACTION: YokoZar to email DMB ~ membership not being required for PPU rights
[17:27] <pleia2> thanks :)
[17:27] <YokoZar> #action YokoZar to push new branch of CoC update based on latest Etherpad
[17:27] <meetingology> ACTION: YokoZar to push new branch of CoC update based on latest Etherpad
[17:27] <pleia2> \o/
[17:28] <YokoZar> All right then
[17:28] <pleia2> ok, anything else?
[17:28] <Laney> can normal people like me see this branch and pad? ;-)
[17:28] <czajkowski> Laney: we will be making the branch public after this
[17:29] <pleia2> and we won't publish formally until we have the community review again
[17:29] <czajkowski> yup
[17:29] <czajkowski> same as before
[17:29] <czajkowski> which worked out well
[17:29] <sabdfl> Laney, please do look at it to see if it reflects our UDS session
[17:29] <Laney> I'd like to, that's why I'm asking where it is
[17:29] <sabdfl> i will do a review once there's a delta
[17:29] <sabdfl> cool, thank you Laney
[17:29] <pleia2> we fixed the "ubuntu is more important than your husband and dog" part :)
[17:29] <pleia2> but yeah, we'll get it publich asap
[17:30] <pleia2> published too
[17:30] <sabdfl> i liked Rick's framing - "contribute to Ubuntu with the intention of making it better for its users"
[17:30] <sabdfl> cool
[17:30] <sabdfl> thanks all
[17:30] <pleia2> thanks everyone
[17:30] <pleia2> #endmeeting
[17:30] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Aug 16 17:30:50 2012 UTC.
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[17:30] <czajkowski> thanks pleia2
[17:31] <pleia2> oh right, I'll take care of the wiki
[17:31] <pleia2> next meeting is ARB catchup
[17:32] <pleia2> (I'm excited for that one :))
[17:33]  * ejat brb … reconnecting … 
[22:04] <IdleOne> #startmetting
[22:04] <IdleOne> #startmeeting
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[22:04] <s-fox> I am here for the meeting :)
[22:04] <IdleOne> #topic Ubuntu Membership Board 2200 UTC
[22:04] <Phantomas> Hello everyone!
[22:04] <IdleOne> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting for August 16, 2012 Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards
[22:05] <IdleOne> my copy paste is failing me
[22:05] <IdleOne> :)
[22:05] <IdleOne> We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.
[22:05] <IdleOne> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
[22:05] <IdleOne> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
[22:05] <IdleOne> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
[22:05] <IdleOne> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the sum of those numbers is positive, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)
[22:05] <IdleOne> Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant...
[22:05] <IdleOne> Phantomas: please introduce yourself
[22:06] <IdleOne> #voters IdleOne cyphermox s-fox PabloRubianes
[22:06] <meetingology> Current voters: IdleOne PabloRubianes cyphermox s-fox
[22:06] <Phantomas> Hello, I am Fotis Tsamis, an IT student living in Greece! I am an Ubuntu user since 2008 and a contributor since 2009
[22:06] <Phantomas> My page is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FotisTsamis
[22:06] <Phantomas> I enjoy programming in Python and GUI designing in GTK+ :)
[22:08] <stgraber> oh, didn't know Phantomas was applying for membership, he's one of the great upstreams of epoptes, the new classroom management tool we started using for a couple of release in Edubuntu.
[22:08] <cyphermox> stgraber: that's what I thought; great :)
[22:08] <Phantomas> Hi stgraber! Thank you :)
[22:09] <IdleOne> Phantomas: I see you don't have any testimonials on your wiki page, did you ask for any?
[22:09] <IdleOne> well, you just got one from stgraber :)
[22:09] <Phantomas> IdleOne: No, actually... I wanted to become a member from my work, and not from my contacts!
[22:09] <cyphermox> Phantomas: it would be cool if you had friends from the Greek LoCo to acknowledge your work and cheer for you :)
[22:09] <Phantomas> for*
[22:09] <xnox> Phantomas: we have an excellent design doc for a Python GTK+ application which is incomplete. Would you be interested in joining upstream work on.... ubiquity installer? =)
[22:10] <Phantomas> xnox: Sure!! :D
[22:10] <PabloRubianes> Phantomas: are you active in you LoCo?
[22:11] <Phantomas> PabloRubianes: I am as much as I can... since I am working hard with sch-scripts and epoptes though, not much time remains for helping etc
[22:11] <Phantomas> I help on IRC mostly
[22:11] <Phantomas> (#ubuntu-gr)
[22:12] <Phantomas> xnox: Really, that would be great... I am super interested!
[22:12] <PabloRubianes> yes having more free time is something we all want
[22:13] <Phantomas> PabloRubianes: I have much free time, I spent it on programming though :)
[22:13] <IdleOne> #vote Ubuntu membership approval for Phantomas
[22:13] <meetingology> Please vote on: Ubuntu membership approval for Phantomas
[22:13] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[22:13] <xnox> Phantomas: I will drop you an email =) it is really easy if you understand Python + Gtk =)
[22:13] <s-fox> +1
[22:13] <meetingology> +1 received from s-fox
[22:13] <xnox> +1
[22:14] <PabloRubianes> +1
[22:14] <meetingology> +1 received from PabloRubianes
[22:14]  * xnox can wish lol =)
[22:14] <stgraber> FWIW, that's where epoptes is being used in Greece: https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=el&msa=0&msid=110322056715625861481.0004948b9931c4181a66d&z=7
[22:14] <IdleOne> +1 Phantomas
[22:14] <meetingology> +1 Phantomas received from IdleOne
[22:14] <cyphermox> +1
[22:14] <meetingology> +1 received from cyphermox
[22:14] <IdleOne> #endvote
[22:14] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Ubuntu membership approval for Phantomas
[22:14] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[22:14] <meetingology> Motion carried
[22:14] <cyphermox> Please keep up the work
[22:14] <s-fox> congratulations Phantomas :)
[22:14] <IdleOne> Congrats Phantomas and Welcome
[22:14] <PabloRubianes> congrats Phantomas
[22:14] <cyphermox> Congrats Phantomas
[22:14] <stgraber> congrats Phantomas
[22:14] <Phantomas> Thank you all :) I'll try to do my best!
[22:15] <PabloRubianes> and keep the work! ;-)
[22:15] <cyphermox> Looking forward to seeing more contributions to other software bits in Ubuntu, and to new releases of epoptes :)
[22:15] <IdleOne> #topic Other Business
[22:15] <IdleOne> Anything else we need to talk about today?
[22:15] <cyphermox> Nothing from me
[22:16] <s-fox> nothing from me
[22:16] <PabloRubianes> nothing from me
[22:16] <IdleOne> Sounds good.
[22:16] <IdleOne> #endmeeting
[22:16] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Aug 16 22:16:06 2012 UTC.
[22:16] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-08-16-22.04.moin.txt
[22:16] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-08-16-22.04.html
[22:16] <s-fox> bed? :)
[22:16] <s-fox> thanks for coming to the meeting everyone!