[00:00] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, i enjoy lubuntu. but what are your thoughts on snow linux?
[00:00] <alazare619> 3.2 no go...figure maybe a conflict  then i fresh reloaded
[00:00] <AcidRain> im downloading the debian version now
[00:00] <con-man> can someone tell me how to disable unity?
[00:00] <con-man> it's crashing my gnome session
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: never used it, lubuntu is badass
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> con-man:  select a differnt desktop at the lightdm login screen perhaps?
[00:00] <alazare619> so my only real option is a 10.04 install :S
[00:00] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, lubuntu is bad ass. but i feel that it lacks a few things that ubuntu 10.04 has
[00:01] <seijirou> Trying to follow the ubuntu cloud instructions, after juju bootstrap the "chosen" node is trying to connect to itself on 2181...  i think it has something to do with zookeeper... shouldn't it be trying to connect to the maas / juju box?
[00:01] <AcidRain> con-man, logout, and select the session.
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: well snow linux isjust ubuntu with different apps, you can make your OS just like snow linux and get full support here....
[00:01] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, how?
[00:01] <con-man> AcidRain, Dr_Willis, it only gives me Ubuntu and Ubuntu 2D
[00:02] <con-man> and unity still loads in both
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: just install the apps it has and then use the theme, not hard
[00:02] <AcidRain> con-man, have you installed gnome2 shell?
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> con-man:  so install some other de/desktop if you want.  Unity 2d and Untiy are 2 differnt apps..
[00:02] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, what desktop does snowlinux use?
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> con-man: install gnome-panel and you will get a gnome2 like desktop
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> con-man:  unity2d is a fallback 'safer' option.
[00:02] <con-man> welp TIL I'm not running gnome. should have figured that
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> con-man:  unity runs on top of gnome...
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: looks like XFCE
[00:03] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis: i'd say "unity runs on top of compiz" myself...
[00:03] <AcidRain> yeah.
[00:03] <seijirou> Is there a better channel for UbuntuCloudInfrastructure help?
[00:03] <Dr_Willis> Unity is a compiz plugin. so its running IN compiz ;)
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: may be mate
[00:04] <con-man> if unity is a compiz plugin, why does the cube get so glitchy
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> AcidRainits not supported here too, it will have its own irc channel and forum
[00:04] <Daekdroom> con-man, they're incompatible plugins.
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> con-man:  forget the cube even exists..
[00:04] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, my main thing is i want to be able to rename files in realtime. no popup that asks me. other things like that
[00:04] <con-man> then how do I rotate the 6 sided thing with equal lengths and 90 degree angles
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: ubuntu does that...
[00:04] <Daekdroom> You found a way around that in the internet.
[00:05] <Daekdroom> But they're not meant to be used together.
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: click file and hit F2
[00:05] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip,. lol. i dont wnat that
[00:05] <con-man> ActionParsnip, so I have installed gnome-panel, log out and back in?
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: well, what do you want? You are going to be using the keyboard to type the new file name, so a keyboard shortcut makes sense
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> con-man: log off and change the session
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: snowlinux has #snowlinux here on freenode
[00:07] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, i think im just going to install xfce4 and see how it is
[00:07] <AcidRain> but ill keep lubuntu for now
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: what do you want in  a rename procedure then....?
[00:07] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, another thing, is that the terminal "transparency" isnt true. it just takes what is behind and puts it as the background. it leaves out files and windows
[00:08] <michelfp> halp, how to force quit an application?
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: not used it, so can't help there. It doesn't interest me
[00:08] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, i want renaming to be like in windows xp. NOT a separate window that pops up
[00:08] <michelfp> halp, how to force quit an application?
[00:08] <michelfp> ?!
[00:08] <zykotick9> michelfp: "kill PID#" or "killall APPNAME" or "xkill" click the app
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> michelfp: you can run:  xkill    and click the app
[00:08] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, u dont use terminal? :/
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: I use guake with no transparency
[00:09] <zykotick9> michelfp: ActionParsnip i find xkill the least reliable or the options... doesn't always work
[00:09] <michelfp> how to find out process name?
[00:09] <michelfp> i want to force quit mozilla firefox
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> michelfp: what is the app name?
[00:09] <zykotick9> michelfp: "ps aux" or top
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> michelfp: killall firefox
[00:09] <AcidRain> michelfp, sudo killall firefox
[00:09] <michelfp> ActionParsnip, worked
[00:09] <michelfp> thx
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: no need for sudo, users can kill their own proceses
[00:10] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, ah. right you r. im used to killing servers :P
[00:10] <michelfp> also
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: you only need sudo if the process doesn't belong to the user who is trying to kill it
[00:10] <michelfp> for some reason i'm not able to play mp3 files
[00:10] <michelfp> when installing codec an error is returned
[00:10] <harris> ActionParsnip,  in this video he has the launcher at the bottom
[00:10] <michelfp>  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[00:10] <michelfp> playonlinux: Depends: wine-unstable but it is not installed
[00:10] <michelfp>              Depends: python-wxgtk2.8 but it is not installed
[00:10] <michelfp>              Depends: imagemagick but it is not installed
[00:10] <michelfp>              Depends: cabextract but it is not installed
[00:10] <michelfp>              Depends: icoutils but it is not installed
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> michelfp: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:10] <harris> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjkyvvj1-yU ActionParsnip
[00:11] <FloodBot1> michelfp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:11] <michelfp> fail
[00:11] <con-man> now I can't right click
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: the rename process in windows is identical to Ubuntu, click file. Hit F2 and change name
[00:11] <con-man> le freaking sigh
[00:11] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, i hardly run any server as my user
[00:11] <AcidRain> usually as many different users
[00:11] <michelfp> ActionParsnip, no, how do i do that?
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> michelfp: its the same as ANY other package installation
[00:12] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, i must be doing something wrong. because regardless how i try to rename file, weather right click-> rename, or click->f2. a separate window pops up
[00:12] <AcidRain> in ubuntu 10.04, that didnt happen
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain: in LXDE?
[00:12] <AcidRain> ActionParsnip, yes, not openbox
[00:12] <AcidRain> brb
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> Its the file manager that would matter.. not the window manager. ;0
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> michelfp: can you give a PASTEBIN of the output of:  apt-cache policy playonlinux; lsb_release -a        Thanks
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> I HATE how windows has the 'inline' file renameing.. always accidently renameing  things
[00:13] <michelfp> ActionParsnip, ok
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> michelfp: http://pastie.org   or similar can hold the text
[00:14] <michelfp> http://pastie.org/4497817
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> michelfp: I suggest you run;   sudo apt-get --purge remove playonlinux; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[00:15] <michelfp> okay
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> michelfp: then reinstall the app with:  sudo apt-get install playonlinux    to get the one from the official ubuntu repos
[00:15] <michelfp> okay
[00:16] <michelfp> i'll give you results later, since i'm downloading something
[00:16] <con-man_> so I have disabled unity, but something odd about compiz, I can no longer right click the menu bar and choose which desktop to show on, or always show on desktop
[00:16] <con-man_> what up with that
[00:16] <michelfp> downloading the ubuntu-restricted-extras :p
[00:16] <harris> ActionParsnip,  i havent even started the trailer and its do at 5:30 i still need the program
[00:16] <con-man_> brb unity is still running I think
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> harris: yes, but you can install the one known to work which will make your packages square
[00:17] <harris> which is
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> harris: if you added the playonlinux PPA, you will need to remove it
[00:17] <con-man> back
[00:18] <harris> i didnt
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> harris: the packages are like a pyramid, each package has dependencies, if those deps aren't met the OS will moan and will not run the app til each app is at the desired version or higher
[00:18] <shawny> Anyone else having trouble with Chrome on 12.04?  Anyone know how to fix it?
[00:18] <con-man> better! thanks guys
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> shawny:  whaty kind of trouble?
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> harris: its like if you want to make a cake, if you don't have all the ingredients you can't make the cake
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> harris: your packages are all out of whack so you are getting issues and the OS is complaining, so you need to get this squared  off
[00:19] <harris> what square
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> harris: again, why are you doing all this when time is not a luxury, it makes no sense at all
[00:19] <monkers> so i've been asking for help with getting my raid array back up and working for the last week since i installed 12.04 and moved my raid array over.  Turns out the problem was some sort of conflict between udev, mdadm and dmraid. when i did an apt-get remove dmraid, mdadm went to town and was able to find all my disks and reassemble the array without problems.  So, maybe make a mental note,
[00:19] <monkers> DMRAID AND MDADM DO NOT PLACE NICE TOGETHER.  uninstall the one you dont need if you're having raid partition/assembly issues.  thanks for the help all.
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> harris: all deps met and all packages having what they need
[00:19] <harris> ok whatever i will get an f
[00:19] <shawny> When I scroll on various pages it doesn't work proper.  part of the screen will scroll while the rest stays put and it doesn't refresh, also, I believe none of the links would work.
[00:20] <harris> how do i find out what packages are not being used by anything
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> harris: why are you doing this now? You have brought this on yourself
[00:20] <michelfp> fyi i started using linux yesterday >.>
[00:20] <con-man> OR NOT
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> harris: deborphan can tell you the unused packages but I don't suggest using it while your packages are not solid
[00:21] <con-man> man what happened with 12.04?  my graphics are all glitchy
[00:21] <harris> ill tell my teacher i didnt have the progtam
[00:21] <con-man> I cannot rotate windows to other sides of the cube
[00:21] <harris> what do you mean not solid
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> harris: I don't care
[00:21] <con-man> alt tab doesnt work
[00:21] <con-man> nothing
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> harris: all deps met, you have a dependancy issue caused by you installing some 3rd party deb
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> con-man: is compiz running?
[00:21] <con-man> yup
[00:22]  * Dr_Willis wonders why people are so obsessed with the lame cube
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> con-man: if you like the gnome2 smell I suggest you use xfce
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: I know, its a mystery
[00:22] <con-man> I like eye candy
[00:22] <zykotick9> monkers: reporting back to the channel on solutions is really helpful - thanks! (it's too bad i don't personally care about raid/fakeraid issues...)
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> harris: why did you start messing around like this NOW?
[00:23] <iceroot> why is the update-manager (running as normal user) able to start the update of sec-updates without a sudo-password? (sudoers does not contain a line about that)
[00:23] <con-man> forgetting the cube, I cannot alt tab, or right click my desktop or right click the top or bottom menus or move windows to other desktops
[00:23] <michelfp> cube?
[00:23] <michelfp> what
[00:23] <michelfp> cube?
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: did you use gksudo recently?
[00:23] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: no
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> michelfp:  search Youtube for 'Compiz cube'
[00:23] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: login maybe 15 minutes before, no sudo action then
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> michelfp: its a plugin for compiz, there are plenty of vids of it for people who think its cool
[00:24] <Dr_Willis> The cube is the kind of thing you enable to show off to the windows users looking over your shoulder.. then turn off when they leave so you can get some work done.
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: maybe its a post login thing. Which release?
[00:24] <con-man> I don't think I've turned it off since 2006
[00:24] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: 12.04 (unity), lubuntu is not acting like that
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: weird indeed. Is it part of polkit etc?
[00:25] <con-man> but back then it was called Beryl, not compiz
[00:25] <sudu> hey can anyone help me with software center
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> con-man: check settings in ccsm
[00:25] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: will look into that
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> sudu: ask and see
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> harris: you didn't answer my question...
[00:26] <sudu> it will not open it will not uninstall and i cant update
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> sudu: if you run:   sudo apt-get update    is it smooth?
[00:26] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: in my opinion a big security issue when the system can install software without extra sudo
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: I suggest you report a bug
[00:26] <sudu> hold on ill give u the error
[00:26] <con-man> ActionParsnip, check for what exactly?
[00:27] <harris> no i want to from a long time ago
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> con-man: what is enabled and disabled, or even reset to defaults
[00:27] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: guess you are right
[00:27] <harris> i have packages i dont use
[00:27] <Dynose> connect #OpTrapWire
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> harris: you need to remove playonlinux, then work from there, then you can uninstall as you wish
[00:27] <Dynose> #OpTrapWire
[00:27] <harris> i dont have play on linux
[00:28] <diminoten> hey kind of a niche question
[00:28] <sudu> The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> harris: ok, if you run:  sudo apt-get -f install     does it sa 0 upgraded|installed  etc?
[00:28] <diminoten> anyone know much about the killer NIC and ubuntu support?
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> sudu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1149835    run that one line after the other
[00:28] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all
[00:29] <harris> Reading package lists... Done
[00:29] <harris> Building dependency tree
[00:29] <harris> Reading state information... Done
[00:29] <harris> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[00:29] <harris>   language-pack-zh-hans kde-l10n-de language-pack-kde-de fortunes-min
[00:29] <FloodBot1> harris: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:29] <harris>   language-pack-de-base language-pack-kde-zh-hans fortune-mod kde-l10n-engb
[00:29] <michelfp> ActionParsnip, how to tell what applications do i have installed?
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> diminoten:  that overhyped 'gamer focused' nic?
[00:29] <diminoten> yeah it came on my motherboard
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> harris: sudo apt-get --pure autoremove
[00:29] <diminoten> got it on a good newegg deal
[00:29] <diminoten> now ubuntu won't detect it
[00:29] <bekks> diminoten: whats the line from the lspci output showing that NIC?
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> On The MB? thought it was a stand alone nic.
[00:29] <harris> Command line option --pure is not understood ActionParsnip
[00:29] <sudu> ill try it
[00:29] <diminoten> let me look
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: run:   sudo lshw -C network    it should show you the network chip
[00:30] <diminoten> okay
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> harris: --purge   typo
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> harris:  notice a line where it said --> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[00:30] <michelfp> also
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: I did ;)
[00:30] <michelfp> how do i see how much disk space do i have in my linux partition
[00:30] <diminoten> huh this output is strange
[00:30] <michelfp> :/
[00:30] <harris> what?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> michelfp: df -h
[00:30] <diminoten> Atheros Communications Inc...?
[00:30] <michelfp> ty
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> harris: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> harris: you really need hand holding don't you...
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> No one ever reads the error messages/info messages it seems. ;P
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: I do <3
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> hahahaha
[00:31] <bekks> diminoten: Just put the complete output of that lshw .... command in a pastebin.
[00:31] <diminoten> hum it's on the ubuntu box
[00:31] <diminoten> which has no network access
[00:31] <bekks> diminoten: So you dont have an USB stick or something? :)
[00:31] <JokesOnYou77> Does anyone know, if I need to change any configuration files when moving /home from a primary partition to a LVM
[00:31] <JokesOnYou77> ?
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: there will be an ID like:   80EA:1E3C    use that to find guides
[00:31] <diminoten> rofl yah yeah hang on a min
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> harris: is it removing ok?
[00:32] <harris> i am a slow learner
[00:32] <harris> yes
[00:32] <sudu> how long does line 4 take
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> harris: cool
[00:32] <harris> sorry
[00:32] <harris> i will try to be better
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> sudu: long time, let it play. Its the fix broken packages from the official docs, I just have it in a script :)
[00:33] <harris> Reading package lists... Done
[00:33] <harris> Building dependency tree
[00:33] <harris> Reading state information... Done
[00:33] <harris> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[00:33] <harris>   language-pack-zh-hans kde-l10n-de language-pack-kde-de fortunes-min
[00:33] <FloodBot1> harris: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:33] <harris>   language-pack-de-base language-pack-kde-zh-hans fortune-mod kde-l10n-engb
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> harris: use a pastebin for large text outputs.
[00:33] <sudu> do i have to copy line for line or can i do all at once
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> harris:  removeing those packages are not going to make your system amazeingly faster or anything special...
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> harris:  and after those lines it says  -->   Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> sudu: you can run:   wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> sudu: you can run that after the last command finishes if you want
[00:34]  * ActionParsnip loves dropbox
[00:34] <diminoten> okay so here's the pastebin: pastebin.com/mRrWiUch
[00:35] <diminoten> doesn't look that good
[00:35] <harris> Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[00:35] <harris> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[00:35] <bekks> diminoten: and the output of lspci -k too, please
[00:35] <diminoten> rofl
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> harris: do you have software centre open?
[00:35] <diminoten> k
[00:35] <diminoten> anything I can filter on?
[00:35] <harris> yes
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> harris: close it, its locking the packages
[00:36] <bekks> diminoten: would be more effort than just using the complete output :)
[00:36] <harris> ok
[00:36] <harris> it still says Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[00:36] <harris> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[00:36] <sl3ax> hi guys, how can i remove GnuPG from Ubuntu 12.04?
[00:37] <proby> hi after playing a game , gnome3 gets that strange blured resolution , how to solve that??
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | harris
[00:37] <TJ-> diminoten: In response to a question, the Killergaming community manager said on 12/7/2011 "I do not believe we currently have official Linux support on our current road map beyond the general desire to offer as much support as we can to as many people as we can. Hopefully this is something that we will be able to offer in the future."
[00:38] <diminoten> TJ-: hum that makes sense...
[00:38] <JokesOnYou77> Does anyone know, if I need to change any configuration files when moving /home from a primary partition to a LVM?
[00:38] <proby> TJ- hi after playing a game , gnome3 gets that strange blured resolution , how to solve that??
[00:38] <diminoten> I might have a network card
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> JokesOnYou77:  juust the fstab.. same as moveing home in any other way i i,magine.
[00:38] <diminoten> a reasonable one, that'll make this easier
[00:38] <sudu> made it to line 15 its getting packages
[00:39] <diminoten> crap no I don't
[00:39] <diminoten> ...we'll see
[00:39] <diminoten> hm I bet I could make it to microcenter
[00:39] <diminoten> lalala
[00:39] <sudu> how did u find the script so fast
[00:39] <TJ-> diminoten: As the 'killer' is just an embedded Linux device itself, my bet is the communication between it and Windows (with windows drivers) isn't via regular PCI hardware device, but using some hybrid communications method. Which would make a Linux driver extremely difficult
[00:40] <faith> hey
[00:40] <faith> can anyone help me
[00:40] <JoeQuery> Hello: I'm getting "E: Internal Error, No file name for libssl1.0.0
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> !ask > faith
[00:40] <diminoten> TJ-: yeah that's why I don't want to spend too much time on this
[00:40] <JoeQuery> trying to apt-get upgrade
[00:40] <JokesOnYou77> Dr_Willis: Ok, thanks.  the ARCH wiki mentioned some changes to rc.conf for installing with an LVM but I wasn't sure about this case
[00:41] <TJ-> JokesOnYou77: Yes you do ... "/etc/fstab" will need updating to reflect the /dev/mapper/<volgroup>-<logical-volume> path to the device
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> JokesOnYou77:  arch is radically differnt from most disrtos. :)
[00:41] <JoeQuery> Been looking on forums for a while, can't find a solution. I'm told I have unmet dependencies (and to use apt-get -f install to fix it), but then the No file name for libssl1.0.0 error comes up
[00:41] <JokesOnYou77> Dr_Willis: yeah, but the documentation rocks.  and it's not all that different when you get down to it.  Just a lot more elbow grease in the setup
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> JokesOnYou77:  learning the fundamentals of Linux and the disrto dosent matter much. :)
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> JoeQuery:  could be some of the files in /var/cache/apt/ have became currupted.
[00:44] <JoeQuery> Dr_Willis: What should I do about that? clear out the directory?
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> JoeQuery:  DONT just delete the files in the directory. :) perhaps rename them.. so you can restore them later..
[00:45] <harris> ActionParsnip,  it erased software center and terminal
[00:45] <harris> now i have a problem
[00:45] <JoeQuery> Dr_Willis: then the standard update => upgrade?
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> JoeQuery:  apt-get clean   might clean them out for you.
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> try a 'sudo apt-get clean' then update, upgrade
[00:45] <TJ-> JoeQuery: Have you tried "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[00:46] <JoeQuery> TJ-: Yes, I have. I was met with another list of errors, which I can put into a pastebin.
[00:46] <harris> Dr_Willis,  i did what you guys told me and it erased everything i need
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> harris:  you need to give more details...
[00:46] <sudu> anyone use the new pinguy os?
[00:46] <TJ-> JoeQuery: those could be useful
[00:46] <michelfp> hey, when using wget, how do i specify location to save?
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> sudu:  it has its own support channels. :)
[00:46] <harris> dropbox is gone terminal is gone
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> michelfp:  saw that on a wget faq page just yesterday,., ;)
[00:46] <harris> chromium is gone
[00:46] <sudu> realy ill check it out cool
[00:46] <harris> software center is gone
[00:46] <michelfp> Dr_Willis, answer my question
[00:46] <TJ-> michelfp: -O <output-file>
[00:47] <michelfp> oh
[00:47] <michelfp> cool
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> harris:  we have NO idea what you are doing, or have done.
[00:47] <harris> i typed the codes you told me to
[00:47] <gunarm> anyone know why Disk Utility created my raid array on md127 instead of md0?
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> harris:  be more specific.. assume people on IRC have the attention span of a newt.
[00:47] <harris> now i have a f#$%^&n problem
[00:48] <harris> how do i get it back
[00:48] <Tony_Stark> harris: sounds like a reformat and reinstall now
[00:48]  * Dr_Willis has no idea what 'codes' were used.
[00:48] <harris> i cant reinstall
[00:48] <sudu> gpart it and start over
[00:48] <Tony_Stark> harris: why not?
[00:48] <TJ-> gunarm: See http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10907831&postcount=6
[00:49] <harris> i dont have time
[00:49] <gunarm> TJ-, thanks
[00:49] <harris> and i would lose my wifi because i have to download the drivers and i dont know where they are
[00:49] <Tony_Stark> harris: Doesnt seem to be any other option.  Sounds like you are dead in the water
[00:49] <TJ-> harris: Are you using regular Ubuntu 12.04 desktop?
[00:49] <harris> yes
[00:50] <histo> harris: What is your problem? Can you please ask a question on one line with details as to what you are having issues with.
[00:50] <TJ-> harris: You can reinstall all the desktop packages with something like "sudo apt-get --reinstall ubuntu-desktop" ... BEFORE you do that, let ActionParsnip and Dr_Willis confirm what I have said
[00:51] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: Will that force reinstall of all the dependencies? I've never messed a system up so far as to need that :p
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> TJ-:  im not even sure what his actual problem is..  last i noticed he was  worried about unused packages that could be removed via 'apt-get autoremove'
[00:52] <sudu> is there a chat package that supports SMS
[00:52] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: I think he removed some virtual package that has taken away all its dependencies... I've seen it happen in the past
[00:52] <rocky_> hello
[00:52] <Dr_Willis>  sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> forces a reinstall of the desktp packages.
[00:52] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: I thought that would do it, see that harris ?
[00:53] <rocky_> I keep getting often this error message, unlock login keyring, the password you entered on login computer doesn't matches login keyring
[00:53] <TJ-> And if those packages are still in the local cache (if not cleaned!) then they won't need to be downloaded
[00:53] <rocky_> how to avoid this message?
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> rocky_:  that in the browser? or the desktop?
[00:54] <rocky_> desktop
[00:54] <TJ-> rocky_: see https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/user-changepassword.html
[00:54] <rocky_> Dr_Willis, it can come anytime
[00:54] <Dr_Willis> I normally set my gnome keyring password to be blank. :)  Actaually i dident even notice that feature in 12.04 ....
[00:55] <Priapus_D> Hello ubuntu
[00:56] <w0rm_x> Hello Priapus_D
[00:57] <rocky_> Dr_Willis, i see have to change the login keyring password
[00:57] <Priapus_D> I wonder if anyone can tell me whether Epson LPB 1120 printer is supported by ubuntu 12.04
[00:57] <rocky_> it appears i forget my old password, so it won't allow me to change the password
[00:58] <rocky_> can i delete the login keyring
[00:58] <rocky_> ?
[00:59] <Priapus_D> Sorry it's the canon lpb 1120. It gave me headaches earlier and wonder if the 12.04 supported such printers
[00:59] <sudu> ACTION you are amazing it WORKED
[00:59] <Priapus_D> And thanks in advance
[00:59] <rocky_> Dr_Willis, alright i deleted the login keyring, hopefully it resolves the issue and thanks all
[01:00] <histo> rocky_: how'd you delete the login keyring?
[01:00] <TJ-> rocky_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65281/how-to-recover-reset-forgotten-gnome-keyring-password
[01:00] <rocky_> go to password keyring, right delete
[01:00] <rocky_> TJ-, thank you
[01:00] <rocky_> histo, thank you
[01:00] <Ping-Win> hello room. i need help concerning a desktop environment i am trying to uninstall.  can anyone help?
[01:02] <histo> rocky_: you could have just changed the password to the same as your login password
[01:03] <histo> !ask | Ping-Win
[01:04] <Priapus_D> Any suggestions for a good Tab that I can install ubuntu on?
[01:06] <Ping-Win> i was playing around with edubuntu, but decided that it wasn't my cup of tea.  i uninstalled through the software center, but still see elements of it in my unity desktop. namely the dash home icon and the log in wallpaper.  how do i completly remove these items?
[01:06] <bitbarron> I am installing ubuntu on a 32GB thumb drive.  Which file system should I pick, and which mount point should I use?  A bootable Ubuntu install is all I want to put on this flash drive.
[01:07] <iceroot> bitbarron: ext4, just use the default ubuntu will offer (everything goes to /)
[01:07] <bitbarron> Priapus_D, I don't think you can install ubuntu on a tablet yet.  If you find out different, let me know!
[01:07] <bitbarron> iceroot, Thx!
[01:08] <bitbarron> Is ubuntu available (and moderately stable) for any tablet PC yet?
[01:09] <TJ-> Priapus_D: the SmartQ T20 has Ubuntu firmware available
[01:09] <Tony_Stark> If the tablet has usb..you might be able to use unetbootin, but the touch controls may not work
[01:09] <iceroot> bitbarron: depending on the hardware the tablet is using
[01:09] <b3rz3rk3r> Ping-Win, "sudo aptitude remove edubuntu-desktop" should do the trick
[01:09] <iceroot> bitbarron: but the architecture is supported by ubuntu
[01:09] <Priapus_D> Thank you TJ-
[01:10] <bitbarron> iceroot, Really?  What about i/o issues?  Don't you need some sort of touch screen technology for most tablets?
[01:10] <michelfp> this program
[01:10] <michelfp> has .rpm .deb and .tgz versions
[01:10] <michelfp> which one do i get?!?!
[01:10] <michelfp> :C
[01:10] <iceroot> bitbarron: ubuntu is supporting touchscreens by a long time already
 one of my friends was talking about ubuntu on Asus Transformer Prime
[01:11] <TJ-> bitbarron: I'm porting it to the Notion Ink Adam
[01:11] <iceroot> bitbarron: the bigger problem is propitary hardware which dont have drivers in the kernel
[01:11] <iceroot> bitbarron: wifi, 3g and so on
[01:11] <iceroot> bitbarron: but the touchscreen-part is working fine on GNU/Linux with X11
[01:11] <histo> michelfp: deb
[01:11] <Stanley00> michelfp: try find that prog in Ubuntu Software Center first ;)
[01:11] <TJ-> michelfp: Ubuntu is based on Debian, and their packages have the extension ".deb"
[01:12] <bitbarron> iceroot, I see.  Interesting.  I see Priapus_D is talking about Asus Transformer Prime.  Maybe that is something to check out?
[01:12] <iceroot> bitbarron: its a nice device
[01:13] <TJ-> Priapus_D: also see http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/22/asus-gives-transformer-prime-a-bootloader-unlock-tool-ubuntu-pr/
[01:13] <iceroot> bitbarron: but i would prefer nexus devices because normally the kernel itself is supporting the complete hardware or the drivers are available
[01:13] <iceroot> bitbarron: so the hardware-support may be better
[01:13] <eoss> if you have an ftp server, is it safe to give anonymous ftp users 777 privlidges inside the ftp folder
[01:13] <TJ-> iceroot: That's nirvana :)
[01:14] <bitbarron> iceroot, I will check out both.  Cool.
[01:14] <iceroot> eoss: ftp is never safe
[01:14] <eoss> ...
[01:14] <iceroot> eoss: and 777 is always a stupid idea
[01:14] <eoss> so how do you expect them to read or write to the folder?
[01:15] <iceroot> eoss: by the owner or group-flag
[01:15] <histo> people still use ftp?
[01:16] <eoss> histo: wat do you use?
[01:16] <histo> eoss: ssh
[01:16] <iceroot> eoss: something secure instead of ftp
[01:16] <eoss> histo: me too sftp, this is for a noob that doesnt know any of that
[01:16] <iceroot> eoss: ftp is the most unsecure thing out there (like telnet)
[01:16] <histo> eoss: there are windows based scp clients
[01:16] <histo> eoss: it would appear like an ftp server to them
[01:17] <gunarm> winscp
[01:17] <gunarm> ftw
[01:17] <eoss> well then i will just set him up with a user account then for ftp with user pass, chroot him to the folder or something
[01:17] <Tony_Stark> iceroot: use vsftp  very secure ftp
[01:17] <Ping-Win> terminal message says "sudo: aptitude: command not found ??
[01:17] <eoss> vsftp is win so far..
[01:17] <iceroot> Tony_Stark: ftp can not be secure
[01:17] <iceroot> Tony_Stark: doesnt matter which client or server
[01:17] <histo> eoss: yeah jail him the folder. and test to make sure he can't get out to other folders
[01:17] <iceroot> Tony_Stark: because ftp is complety unencrypted
[01:18] <eoss> basically your password goes over the wire unencrypted
[01:18] <histo> eoss: yes and all data
[01:18] <eoss> but if they chrooted i dont care what they do to the folder
[01:18] <gunarm> when I set up my raid in Disk Utility, put GUID partition tables on all the drives, and then did Create > Raid and selected them all and when it finished all the disks say "warning, this partition is misaligned by 3072 bytes, this may reult in very poor performance", the md itself with 512k stripe says its off by 509952 bytes.  the array is new and empty so I can remake it if I need to but how can I not have the same problem again?
[01:18] <digitalgypsy> Tony_Stark: I think the 's' in 'vsftp' stands for 'simple'
[01:18] <eoss> nope, secure
[01:18] <digitalgypsy> not 'secure'
[01:18] <Tony_Stark> iceroot: that is why I prefer ssh
[01:18] <Tony_Stark> digitalgypsy: oh...it has been a while since I set it up.
[01:19] <gunarm> why not just use ssh
[01:19] <digitalgypsy> no... you're right... I'm talking out of my ass
[01:19] <digitalgypsy> heh... my bad
[01:19] <gunarm> its super easy to open
[01:19] <digitalgypsy> ssh is just as easy, tho
[01:19] <TJ-> vsftp is used by most of the major Linux vendors and projects
[01:19] <histo> eoss: true
[01:19] <gunarm> it cant get easier or more secure than ssh
[01:20] <gunarm> sudo apt-get install openssh
[01:20] <gunarm> ssh hostname
[01:20] <gunarm> winscp hostname
[01:20] <bobweaver>  /join #woppsie
[01:20] <bobweaver> er
[01:20] <michelfp> what is command for finding out disk space again?
[01:20] <eoss> i didnt even have to do that..i had ssh running on my server...set up my ftp client for sftp..and it just worked >.<
[01:20] <iceroot> michelfp: df -h
[01:20] <michelfp> thx
[01:20] <JAyGamma>  /join #woppsie
[01:20] <TJ-> ssh derivatives depend upon an account on the system. In many cases admin's don't want the ftp users to be real users on the system
[01:20] <Tony_Stark> df for diskspace
[01:20] <bobweaver> is there a .. thanks JAyGamma
[01:21] <gunarm> TJ-, good poitn
[01:21] <bobweaver> There is not a woppsie channel there should be ...
[01:21] <TJ-> FTP daemons are great for doing virtual hosting in combination with web-server virtual hosts
[01:22]  * bobweaver puff the air and hunter games is on 
[01:22] <iceroot> TJ-: then dont give them a login-shell
[01:22] <Priapus_D> TJ- thank you but have you ever tried what is in this page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1585009
[01:22] <b3rz3rk3r> Ping-Win, open the Synaptic Package Manager and make sure that you have "apt" installed
[01:22] <bobweaver> Who invented woopsie ?
[01:22] <b3rz3rk3r> Ping-Win, if not, check the box and install it. then re-run the last command in terminal
[01:23] <sudu> is ther a fast format converter app for ubuntu like format factory
[01:24] <iceroot> Ping-Win: aptitude was removed from the default installation, if you need aptitude use "sudo apt-get install aptitude" but for normal users apt-get is fine and there is no need for aptitude
[01:25] <TJ-> iceroot: Often the issue is that accounts are all managed in a company database, and FTP daemons are much more inclined to do their authentication via a database. When they've got 100,000 users the database 'seems' safer to many companies. I and you know of pam_ldap and pam_mysql, but their techies often aren't that well versed.
[01:26] <iceroot> TJ-: ftp is still evil
[01:26] <TJ-> Priapus_D: No, my work is focused on a native port of Linux kernel supporting all the hardware, so a vanilla Ubuntu can be run on it
[01:26] <iceroot> TJ-: doesnt matter how you manage the users
[01:26] <iceroot> TJ-: when we are talking about ftps, ok then ftp is fine :=)
[01:27] <TJ-> iceroot: what's evil about it, specifically?
[01:27] <bobweaver> iceroot, +1 ftp is evil
[01:27] <iceroot> TJ-: unencrypted passwords
[01:27] <TJ-> iceroot: so HTTP Basic auth is evil too
[01:27] <bobweaver> !info scp,sftp
[01:27] <iceroot> TJ-: when not using https, yes of course
[01:28] <bobweaver> !info scp
[01:28] <Priapus_D> TJ- that would be a great thing. Is anything or any device out there that one can install Linux with gnome natively on that you know?
[01:28] <iceroot> bobweaver: scp is part of "openssh-client"
[01:28] <TJ-> Priapus_D: I don't think so at this point, tablets still aren't in the same league as PCs
[01:28] <bobweaver> thanks iceroot  :)
[01:29] <iceroot> TJ-: imap is bad of course too, when not using IMAPS or encryption for the password
[01:29] <Priapus_D> TJ- still it would be great to have a tab with ubuntu on
[01:29] <TJ-> Priapus_D: They are coming
[01:30] <bobweaver> how to make better sense of the rubix cube of iptable ?
[01:30] <b3rz3rk3r> Ping-Win, is that command working now?
[01:31] <bobweaver> any one want to teach me how to use iptables better or is there a better way ?
[01:31] <Ping-Win> the command is working now guys! THX!
[01:31] <iceroot> bobweaver: man iptables  or #iptables
[01:32] <iceroot> bobweaver: or use ufw
[01:32] <iceroot> !ufw | bobweaver
[01:32] <bobweaver> Like I guesss my question is more abut
[01:32] <bobweaver> searching for name of program sorry ...
[01:33] <TJ-> bobweaver: what do you want to know?
[01:33] <bobweaver> well I want to use a poxy to gather cached info
[01:33] <bobweaver> but I have to open up tables on the machine this is a sandboxed machine
[01:34] <bobweaver> meaning that it has its own little network behind some things
[01:34] <bobweaver> things being honeypots
[01:35] <bobweaver> I think it was called rsucl or something like that
[01:35] <bobweaver> rsuck *
[01:36] <bobweaver> it is for my tv hang on
[01:36] <TJ-> I have this rule to run transparent squid: "-A loc_dnat ! -d 10.0.0.0/8 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 3128"
[01:36] <NetEcho> where might I find the Screen and Device configurations for Xorg on the livecd? I'm trying to diagnose my config on a live install and the livecd seems to support my card nicely
[01:36] <TJ-> bobweaver: That's taken from the rule chains and targets configured via Shorewall
[01:36] <TJ-> NetEcho: check out /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:36] <iceroot> NetEcho: there is no static config anymore by default
[01:37] <iceroot> NetEcho: udev is doing that automaticly on every start
[01:37] <NetEcho> iceroot is there still a way to see how it's configuring it?
[01:37] <TJ-> NetEcho: Xorg auto-configures nowadays and you can see the config in the log reports
[01:37] <NetEcho> perfect
[01:43] <diminoten> I'm an idiot
[01:43] <diminoten> I uninstalled unity but didn't put anything else in
[01:44] <diminoten> is there like a shortcut to the command line
[01:45] <diminoten> nm
[01:45] <DrManhattan> im quite disgusted, I never did get WOL working on my atl1e, I had to switch my server box over to my biostar p43-a7
[01:45] <TJ-> Ctrl+Alt+F1
[01:45] <diminoten> screen went blank
[01:46] <DrManhattan> in the long run though, I suppose its best since it only had ich10 with ahci and not fakeraid, and i had mismatched drives and wanted to mix up raid types anyhow
[01:47] <TJ-> DrManhattan: Did you try "echo enabled >/sys/class/net/eth?/device/power/wakeup"
[01:47] <DrManhattan> TJ-, tried everything. Isn't going to happen with that module
[01:47] <DrManhattan> on r8169 it doesn't work either but the proprietary driver for that compiles and installs just fine
[01:48] <DrManhattan> it works great
[01:48] <sambagirl> hey is there any procedure for reversing an iphone upgrade?
[01:49] <bitbarron> Should I expect my linux OS booting off my USB 2.0 drive to be considerably slower than if I am booting of a SATA drive?
[01:49] <aristidesfl> will rm -rf follow symbolic links?
[01:49] <bobweaver> ok I finaly found the program
[01:49] <aristidesfl> bitbarron yes
[01:49] <bobweaver> !rtmpsuck
[01:49] <TJ-> DrManhattan: strange; I know the atl1e supports AT_WUFC_MAG (magic packet)
[01:50] <aristidesfl> will rm -r follow symbolic links?
[01:50] <sambagirl> can you install ubuntu on an iphone?
[01:50] <bobweaver> !info rtmpsuck
[01:50] <bitbarron> aristidesfl, Do you have a "from the hip" guess as to the decrease in speed?  1/2, 1/4?
[01:51] <aristidesfl> bitbarron maybe 3 times more
[01:51] <bitbarron> aristidesfl, OK.  Thx.
[01:51] <TJ-> bitbarron: SATA 1.5/3.0/6.0 Gbps ... USB 480Mbps
[01:51] <aristidesfl> depending on the ratio between the speed of the hard drive and usb
[01:51] <trism> !info rtmpdump | bobweaver
[01:51] <DrManhattan> Oh im sure it does,. I bet it can send magic packets in linux like its going out of style
[01:52] <DrManhattan> when it goes to sleep, it goes nighty night.
[01:52] <TJ-> bitbarron: and its unusual on USB to get all that claimed 480Mbps os USB 2.0
[01:52] <bitbarron> TJ-, So does that mean my ubuntu installation on my thumbdrive will be painfully slow?
[01:52] <aristidesfl> depends on the purpose
[01:53] <aristidesfl> I had a server running off a flash drive
[01:53] <bobweaver> trism,  correct I am trying to make a interface for that but am unsure about the i[tables and how that would ever package
[01:53] <aristidesfl> to save energy
[01:53] <DrManhattan> bitbarron, compared to a 3gbps or faster connection to an actual hard drive, probably
[01:53] <aristidesfl> but it requires you to fine tune a lot of things
[01:53] <aristidesfl> like some options of the file system
[01:54] <trism> bobweaver: oh, sorry, I have no idea, thought you were searching for the binary
[01:54] <aristidesfl> and not use swap partition
[01:54] <bitbarron> I am thinking of using the thumbdrive for email, web browsing when I visit my sisters house.  Not wanting to log into her computer.
[01:54] <aristidesfl> so it doesn't write so much to the disk
[01:54] <bobweaver> My iptables question what does this do ?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/54787/record-live-streaming
[01:54] <aristidesfl> bitbarron if the computer has enough RAM
[01:55] <bitbarron> 1 or 2 gigs
[01:55] <aristidesfl> assuming you disable swap
[01:55] <aristidesfl> I only have 1 gig
[01:55] <aristidesfl> I ended up switching to hard drive because every time the Ram would run out, the compared would crash
[01:56] <bobweaver> I fdo not know iptables and am reading that article that the bot suggested
[01:56] <aristidesfl> flash drive also has shorter life span than hard drive
[01:56] <aristidesfl> but if it is only to use occasionally it's a good solution
[01:56] <bobweaver> I always use ipcop or pfsense
[01:57] <bobweaver> sets up the rules for me :/
[01:57] <bitbarron> aristidesfl, I will check it out.  Just wanting a mobile solution when I travel to friends who have computers.  That is a good tip though, to disable swap.
[01:58] <bobweaver> the only part that I dont get is this    \! --uid-owner
[01:58] <bobweaver> meaning that it must be by the owner only ?
[01:59] <bobweaver> and I take it that the owner is the proxy model
[01:59] <bobweaver> but just not sure
[01:59] <danbeam> hello, does anybody know the config file I'd edit to turn off sticky edges? right now I'm being hit by RANDR error messages when trying to run gnome-control-center display so I can't edit from the GUI
[01:59] <danbeam> (sticky edges in 12.04 + unity)
[02:00] <bobweaver> 2d or 3d danbeam
[02:00] <danbeam> bobweaver: hmm, not sure
[02:00] <danbeam> bobweaver: one sec
[02:00] <bobweaver> sorry unity 2d or 3d
[02:01] <danbeam> bobweaver: ya, I know, not sure which one I'm running...
[02:01] <danbeam> bobweaver: how does one find this out? env?
[02:01] <ferris> I cannot seem to find out how to backup my settings and messages with thunderbird in ubuntu 12
[02:01] <bobweaver> see what I want to do is set up a ical table for aend user to record ;live streams and then set that up as a lens
[02:01] <ferris> any help would be great
[02:01] <bobweaver> with rmtpsuck
[02:02] <aristidesfl> bitbarron there are more things you should disable in /etc/fstab
[02:04] <bobweaver> well sticky edges are defined by a manger danbeam  it real depends on what you are trying to run but I see no reason to have no gui in a stick edge sitution
[02:04] <TJ-> bobweaver: It watches for any TCP connections to port 1935 and REDIRECTs them if they are not (!) owned by the user rtmp to localhost where rtmpsuck is operating as a transparent proxy. So it makes the connections to the video site and saves the data as it passes through the proxy on its way to the browser
[02:05] <bobweaver> TJ-,  thanks a ton !
[02:05] <danbeam> bobweaver: I have a GUI, I just can't launch the "Displays" settings UI
[02:06] <danbeam> bobweaver: as it segfaults when I do
[02:06] <danbeam> (it's a known bug)
[02:07] <bobweaver> TJ-,  tis is why I ask BTW :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfrm117Ukr0&feature=g-upl
[02:07] <harris> what is the wine channel
[02:07] <TJ-> danbeam: Try starting it from a terminal under control of the debugger so you can capture a stack backtrace. "gdb --args gnome-control-center display"
[02:07] <TJ-> harris: #winehq
[02:08] <gunarm> does anyone know a good guide for setting up raid that doesn't require reinstalling ubuntu with the alternate cd?  I just want to make some drives into an array, not my os drive
[02:08] <danbeam> TJ-: why? it's in some bug somewhere, but it doesn't help me
[02:09] <danbeam> TJ-: looked for bug, couldn't find
[02:11] <bonhoeffer> anyone know why i can't mv *.jpg in a directory -- i get  Argument list too long
[02:12] <bobweaver> danbeam,  you have gone to gnome-settings and made sure that sticky edges where enabled
[02:12] <bobweaver> what bonhoeffer
[02:12] <TJ-> danbeam:  the first step to fixing is knowing where the problem is :)
[02:12] <bonhoeffer> -bash: /bin/mv: Argument list too long
[02:12] <danbeam> TJ-: there's no symbols
[02:12] <danbeam> TJ-: I'm on a backtrace
[02:13] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: That'll be because the shell glob "*" will be expanded to a list of every .jpg filename... which is probably too long for the command line
[02:13] <danbeam> TJ-: #0  0x00007ffff77fff77 in gtk_widget_size_allocate () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0
[02:13] <TaJMoX> How do I delete some stuff from the Unity "Installed Programs" ? There is some stuff I installed with WINE that I have removed manually, but the icons are still there. (Ubuntu 12.04)
[02:13] <bonhoeffer> TJ-, hm. .. how would you recommend moving all the jpegs from the directory?
[02:13] <bobweaver> find /home/dir/ -name '*.jpg' -exec mv whatever /whatever  { } \
[02:13] <TJ-> danbeam: OK... if you're that good, you need to install the -dbgsym packages for the relevant package and libraries from the ddeb archive
[02:14] <bobweaver> bonhoeffer,  ^^
[02:14] <NetEcho> is there a way to have X spit its config into a config file (the one thats configured at runtime?)
[02:14] <TJ-> bonhoeffer: "for jpg in *.jpg; do rm $jpg; done"
[02:14] <danbeam> TJ-: ok
[02:14] <bobweaver> bonhoeffer,  there sould not be a space in { }
[02:15] <bobweaver> lol TJ-
[02:15] <danbeam> TJ-: Like I mentioned before, this is definitely a known issue with a full stack trace
[02:15] <danbeam> TJ-: somewhere on launchpad or some tracker
[02:15] <TJ-> NetEcho: "Xorg -configure"
[02:15] <NetEcho> TJ- thanks
[02:15] <TJ-> danbeam: OK ... you point me to it, I'll hack the source
[02:16] <TaJMoX> How do I delete/edit icons in the Dash? Under "Installed Programs" there are some old WINE apps that I have removed, but the icons are still there.
[02:16] <NetEcho> TJ- this will yield the same results as the dynamic configuration?
[02:16] <nina666> hi... I know i can get a program's process ID by pgrep. using that, how can I switch to that program?
[02:16] <TJ-> NetEcho: according to "man Xorg" : "When this option is specified, the Xorg server loads all video driver  modules,  probes
[02:16] <TJ->                for  available  hardware, and writes out an initial xorg.conf(5) file based on what was detected."
[02:17] <bobweaver> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfrm117Ukr0&feature=g-upl&webm=1   9minutes in how to fix ?
[02:17] <NetEcho> TJ- ok I'll give it a try
[02:17] <TJ-> nina666: how do you mean, switch to it?
[02:17] <danbeam> TJ-: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/979959
[02:17] <TJ-> Thanks danbeam
[02:17] <quazimodo> guys /usr/bin/ruby is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/ruby which is a symlink to /usr/bin/ruby1.8
[02:18] <quazimodo> is there a proper way to change that (via the alternatives system) to ruby 1.9.3
[02:18] <danbeam> TJ-: I should mention that I know RANDR is turned off (it says so in my xorg.conf) but I don't exactly know why my xorg.conf turns it off...
[02:18] <s3a> Is it safe to browse the internet with a live cd or does it introduce a new security risk (network-wise - excluding the fact that it's not updated with the latest patches which can be done on the live cd/dvd)?
[02:18] <quazimodo> or should i just remake the /etc/alternatives/ruby as a symlink to /etc/bin/ruby1.9.3
[02:18] <nina666> TJ-, for example program A is intiated and running, but minimized, or closed (but it is running); how can I relaunch it? by relaunch i dont mean re-initiation, just switch to the program so I can see the interface..
[02:19] <danbeam> bobweaver: re: gnome-settings, that's the thing that crashes (if by that you mean gnome-control-center display)
[02:19] <RoDiMuS-X> s3a don't mount your harddrive and you should be fine
[02:19] <TJ-> danbeam: No, that is strange. usually there shouldn't be an xorg.conf anyhow. I run nvidia with multiple screens and don't get the symptoms described in comment #2
[02:19] <s3a> RoDiMuS-X, couldn't an attacker mount it "for me" remotely?
[02:19] <RoDiMuS-X> s3a: if they get your root password
[02:19] <danbeam> TJ-: I could obviously disable (mv xorg.conf xborg.conf) it and set the option, I guess...
[02:20] <danbeam> I guess I'll try that for now
[02:20] <s3a> RoDiMuS-X, but the live cd's root password is either nothing or "ubuntu" or something easy to crack through
[02:20] <danbeam> TJ-: if that doesn't work I can install the dbg symbols and look through the gdb bt
[02:20] <s3a> RoDiMuS-X, ok so a solution would be to change the password right before connecting to the internet?
[02:20] <NetEcho> TJ- how do I use xorg -configure on the livecd it won't allow me to run it
[02:20] <RoDiMuS-X> s3a: telnet, FTP services such as those are turned off by default
[02:21] <TJ-> danbeam_: if you can pastebin your xorg.conf maybe I can reproduce it
[02:21] <TJ-> NetEcho: maybe you need privileges: "sudo Xorg -configure"
[02:21] <s3a> RoDiMuS-X, so in other words, only stuff that would NOT allow someone to remotely do anything is turned on?
[02:22] <NetEcho> TJ- no it says the server is running, but every time I kill Xserver it reboots
[02:22] <RoDiMuS-X> s3a: yes
[02:23] <s3a> RoDiMuS-X, alright, thank you.
[02:24] <spiouki> hey how can i pm someone?
[02:24] <Pecker> why would you wan tto pm?
[02:25] <TJ-> NetEcho: ahhhh of course! Sorry, you'd need to go into a VT terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F1) login, stop X ("sudo service lightdm stop") run that command "sudo Xorg -configure" then restart X "sudo service lightdm start"
[02:25] <spiouki> well I should answer others when they pm me :)
[02:25] <cucuzz> hello
[02:25] <TJ-> danbeam_: I think I see the problem
[02:25] <Pecker> ok weird spiouki.. if someone messgaez you your cleint will open a new tab
[02:26] <Pecker> if you want to message someone type /msg NAME Myourmessage
[02:26] <Pecker> cucuzz: hi
[02:26] <NetEcho> TJ- simpler question how the heck do I get gnome back to its old style? like debian and other distros have it?
[02:27] <TJ-> NetEcho: You mean the Lucid 10.04 look? That was gnome2. Ubuntu is now using Unity or gnome3
[02:27] <andrewh192> Hey, I am wondering, I downloaded the mini.iso file and have burned it to a cd and running it from my laptop... Am having some trouble connecting to the network.. It tries to auto configure using DHCP, and can't seem to do it... was wondering how to fix that
[02:27] <andrewh192> or how to setup the installer without using the autoconfigure thing
[02:27] <NetEcho> TJ- can I switch back? the new GNOME is slow and I dislike it a lot
[02:28] <Calthropstu> hello, I'm having an issue in ubuntu and need help
[02:28] <Pecker> Calthropstu: question is?
[02:28] <TJ-> NetEcho: any slowness will be caused by running the liveCD
[02:29] <danbeam> TJ-: PM'd you xorg.conf
[02:29] <NetEcho> TJ- even when installed its slow
[02:29] <NetEcho> and again I dislike how its layed out
[02:29] <andrewh192> hey TJ- I am installing finally after getting my hands on some blank cds, that mini.iso file... its having some trouble "configuring the DHCP" thing...
[02:30] <Calthropstu> is anyone available?
[02:30] <TJ-> NetEcho: Unless the hardware *is* slow I'd think that's more likely caused by the system not using an accelerated video driver.
[02:31] <NetEcho> TJ- the laptop is 7 years old
[02:31] <NetEcho> the video card is unsupported by ATI now
[02:31] <TJ-> NetEcho: aha!
[02:31] <NetEcho> and I'm not much for flashy interfaces like the current Gnome
[02:32] <NetEcho> wait debian is using gdm3 and it looks nothing like ubuntu
[02:32] <TJ-> NetEcho: So I'm going to guess the video driver in use is the VESA driver, with no acceleration. You'd be better off using something like Xubuntu or one of the other lightweight GUIs
[02:33] <NetEcho> TJ- debian wheezy runs fine on the system aside from an annoying flicker that ubuntu doesn't have however ubuntu has gnome configured to be all flashy and whatnot with special effects
[02:33] <NetEcho> so I'm at a catch 22
[02:34] <NetEcho> I like plain old gnome
[02:34] <TJ-> NetEcho: I'm afraid gnome2 and metacity from 10.04 is no longer around
[02:34] <NetEcho> TJ- gnome3 doesn't look like this by default
[02:35] <NetEcho> Ubuntu has done something to gnome3 to make it heavy and full of effects
[02:35] <TJ-> NetEcho: I suspect that's because you're seeing Unity since its the liveCD
[02:35] <andrewh192> TJ-: Hey Was wondering if you knew what to do in order to fix my problem with installing ubuntu from the mini.iso burned cd...
[02:35] <NetEcho> TJ- even when I had it installed yesterday
[02:35] <henrico> hi there
[02:36] <TJ-> andrewh192: Is it still failing with errors?
[02:37] <andrewh192> TJ-: no.. well, its saying that when it tries to autoconfigure the installer with DHCP, that your network "probably" isn't setup for DHCP, or whatever...
[02:37] <andrewh192> so when i say, i don't want to setup my network at this time, it asks me for my hostname
[02:37] <nina666> TJ-, so... ? :D
[02:37] <andrewh192> which i have no idea what that is, or how to find that out
[02:38] <VERISTEAD> hello?
[02:38] <VERISTEAD> ok it is working
[02:38] <andrewh192> TJ-: ok, so nevermind about that, i can use anything for that right now...
[02:39] <NetEcho> TJ- vanilla gnome 3 not this horribly bloated version ubuntu installs
[02:39] <andrewh192> TJ-: I thought it might be a ip address of the router or something
[02:39] <andrewh192> TJ-: but i guess, its just the name of your computer, that's all...
[02:39] <veristead> so anyone here familiar with using netfilter in ubuntu?
[02:39] <xangua> !anyone | veristead
[02:40] <veristead> well ok... i'm using ubuntu as my firewall for my lan and i'm trying to set up a nat (post routing) in netfilter and having issues
[02:41] <wavm> ne1 help open .mdb in base, its not working
[02:41] <veristead> the rule i have currently is: -A PREROUTING -p tcp -m tcp --dport 3389 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.10.106:3389
[02:41] <veristead> COMMIT
[02:42] <veristead> which looks right to me but it isnt working :-\
[02:43] <TaJMoX> How do I delete/edit icons in the Dash? Under "Installed Programs" there are some old WINE apps that I have removed, but the icons are still there.
[02:44] <trism> TaJMoX: the .desktop files are probably in ~/.local/share/applications/
[02:44] <TaJMoX> Thanks trism!
[02:46] <TJ-> andrewh192: Sorry, I was doing something else. The DHCP messages means your PC is calling on the network asking to be assigned an IP address by the DHCP server, but isn't getting a response.  Usually a home router runs the DHCP server.
[02:49] <mwilliams1220> hello
[02:49] <phonebook_> has anyone ever had trouble on ubuntu with youtube videos just stopping a few seconds in? on both chrome and safari
[02:49] <andrewh192> TJ-: that's ok... i realized that the cord wasn't plugged all the way into the port on my laptop.. no lights prolly means no activity...
[02:49] <phonebook_> am doing updates atm
[02:49] <andrewh192> TJ-: now, was wondering, if i need to fill out the part asking for domain name
[02:50] <andrewh192> TJ-: do i just leave that blank?
[02:50] <andrewh192> is that like if i was on comcast's cable network thing... i would go, "comcast.com"
[02:51] <andrewh192> TJ-: ????
[02:53] <phonebook_> and fail
[02:53] <phonebook_> 1 minute 53 seconds
[02:53] <TJ-> veristead: this may help http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/please-help-with-iptables-rdp-3389-a-444083/#post2246040
[02:53] <phonebook_> virtual box crashed on me so its looking like windows if an explicit flash update doesnt fix this gfross oversight - go ubuntu
[02:54] <TJ-> andrewh192: You mean in the installer? I think that's for the local network so it is by default "localdomain" but you can set it. E.g. mine is set to "lan.iam.tj"
[02:55] <andrewh192> gotcha
[02:55] <soliloquy1> Hi. I just installed Ubuntu on my macbook air using this guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation). I got through the install (went fine) synced boot tables with refit, and then, I load OS X - fine. I try to boot into Ubuntu however and get the error "missing operating system". What now?
[02:56] <andrewh192> so its not asking for the DNS servers online for comcast?
[02:56] <andrewh192> or anything?
[02:56] <andrewh192> i can just put anything, even if its not the same thing it says on the other computers connected to the same network?
[02:56] <TJ-> andrewaclt: no ... it wants a domain to append to the hostname so it ends up with pcname.domain
[02:57] <TJ-> andrewh192: best not to use anything that is used on the Internet... that's why by convention we use "lan.xxxx.xx"
[02:57] <en1gma> i have ubuntu 12.04 amd 64 unity installed to my hdd. i then did -get update and upgrade. i am trying to use gpsd and gpsctl with my usb gps device (BU-353). when i plug my device in 'ps -aux | grep gpsd' shows "gpsd -F /var/run/gpsd.sock"
[02:58] <en1gma> does that mean it is in serial mode and not usb mode as it is not showing gpsd /dev/ttyUSB0?
[02:58] <TJ-> en1gma: I suspect you'd set the port in gpsd's config file
[02:58] <nina666> I found partly answer to my question, the way to get the window if running program using its pid, is somehow by using command "wmctrl"... but now as  Im searching, I still cannot totally get what I want..
[02:58] <en1gma> see i think it might be auto detecting my device wrong and since its a pre compiled package im not sure how to fix it
[02:59] <en1gma> if i can get it to stop auto loading gpsd i could prob get it done from there
[02:59] <mwilliams1220> Here is my question:  I am using 12.04 on a dual booted Toshiba laptop and I can no longer change the volume on my computer.  when I check output on the sound settings, there is nothing listed and all the options are greyed out.  I still have volume that I can control through what ever program I am using (VLC, Rhythm Box, YouTube videos).  The volume control works fine when I boot into Windows, so I am pretty sure it is not a hardware issue.  This ha
[02:59] <mwilliams1220> ppened sometime after I upgraded to 12.04.
[02:59] <nina666> i tried: # wmctrl -ia 2532
[02:59] <nina666> and got:X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)  Major opcode of failed request:  20 (X_GetProperty)  Resource id in failed request:  0x9e4  Serial number of failed request:  8  Current serial number in output stream:  8
[03:01] <TJ-> en1gma: you need to do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gpsd" and answer the questions
[03:01] <en1gma> k thnaks
[03:01] <en1gma> that sounds like a good command you just gave me
[03:01] <phonebook_> im loggin onto windows, i need something that works
[03:01] <TJ-> en1gma: after that you will need to restart gpsd "sudo service gpsd restart"
[03:01] <en1gma> k thanks i gonna write down those commands
[03:03] <mwilliams1220> Here is my question:  I am using 12.04 on a dual booted Toshiba laptop and I can no longer change the volume on my computer.  when I check output on the sound settings, there is nothing listed and all the options are greyed out.  I still have volume that I can control through what ever program I am using (VLC, Rhythm Box, YouTube videos).  The volume control works fine when I boot into Windows, so I am pretty sure it is not a hardware issue.  This ha
[03:03] <mwilliams1220> ppened sometime after I upgraded to 12.04.
[03:04] <andrewh192> TJ-: ok, kewl, i got it to work.. :-)
[03:04] <TJ-> andrewh192: well done :)
[03:05] <nina666> ok now i got to this point: #wmctrl -l -p lists x windows as well as PID... but a closed running program (like skype) would not be appearing there.. so Im still stuck how to get skype window back...
[03:06] <soliloquy1> Hi. I just installed Ubuntu on my macbook air along with OS X Mountain Lion following this guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation). Install went fine, I booted into OS X fine after partition sync via refit as in directions; went to boot into Ubuntu and get this friendly error - "Missing Operating System". What in the world now?
[03:07] <TJ-> nina666: does Super+W help? (Super key is usually the 'Windows' key)
[03:07] <xibalba_> hello
[03:08] <nina666> TJ- , no.. thats the problem.. I have closed skype actually, but its running on the background, and when I try to resume the window, it says "another instance of skype exists" so there is now way for me to get the window back. when I try pgrep skype, the PID is there...
[03:08] <xibalba_> anyone using ircii?
[03:09] <TJ-> nina666: is it possible the Skype process has got 'stuck' whilst closing? that happens to applications sometimes. The best thing is to send them a TERMinate signal and then start them afresh ("kill -TERM $PID")
[03:12] <quazimodo> GUYS
[03:12] <quazimodo> im trying to get ruby1.9.3 on ubuntu 12.04.... but I cant :(
[03:13] <Nautilus> anyone know a good url to help me upgrade php from 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.17 to 5.3.(current) ?
[03:14] <soliloquy1> I just installed Ubuntu on my macbook air along with OS X Mountain Lion following this guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation). Install went fine, I booted into OS X fine after partition sync via refit as in directions; went to boot into Ubuntu and get this friendly error - "Missing Operating System". What in the world now?
[03:14] <nina666> TJ-, actually i dont think so... skype is always like that, when I close it, it does mean its signed out, the interface is just closed. but unfortunately doesnt have any icons or anything in taskbar as well... and yes I do always have to kill it, but this time I have something on it important that will be erased if i sign out...
[03:16] <cfhowlett> soliloquy1: your ubuntu is likely still present, but the bootloader scrambled.  reinstall refit.
[03:16] <soliloquy1> cfhowlett: alright, I'll try that now
[03:18] <soliloquy1> cfhowlett: How would I install grub from the live cd without reinstalling Ubuntu?
[03:19] <Nautilus> I ran Uppdate Manager in 10.04LTS but php is still 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.17 and I need at least 5.3.3 ... need info on doing that please
[03:19] <cfhowlett> !grub|soliloquy1
[03:19] <trism> quazimodo: sudo update-alternatives --config ruby;
[03:19] <TJ-> nina666: will this help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/104750/how-do-i-reopen-an-instance-window-once-it-has-disappeared-from-desktop
[03:21] <iToast> e.e
[03:21] <IdleOne> ...
[03:21] <iToast> I gave up on trying
[03:22] <iToast> as the same op that +b'd thinks everyone needs to goto a higehr admin to get a -b.
[03:22] <IdleOne> iToast: drop it now.
[03:22] <iToast> IdleOne, I'm welcome to speak in other channels :)
[03:22] <TJ-> nina666: long shot but I wonder if sending the skype process a HUP or USR1 or USR2 signal would tell it to show itself. Do that using "kill -HUP $PID" (change HUP for the others to try it)
[03:23] <somsip> nina666: without needing to know details, what is it that will be lost on skype if you have to restart. I know this is not a fix as such...
[03:23] <IdleOne> !guidelines | iToast Please read the guidelines because I am not going to give any warnings if you break any of the rules.
[03:24] <nina666> TJ-, done that.. just killed without popping up
[03:24] <iToast> IdleOne, I'm welcome to speak about anything outside the #ubutnu channels.
[03:25] <TJ-> nina666: Hmmm, that's a pain. problems with proprietary stuff
[03:25] <nina666> somsip, my chat history is set not to be saved, and I have an important thing on there with signing in it'll be erased..
[03:25] <cfhowlett> iToast: follow the rules like everyone else please.
[03:25] <TJ-> nina666: it's bug #860322
[03:25] <somsip> nina666: ok - I understand
[03:27] <nina666> TJ- , oh ok... thats good(bad) to know..
[03:27] <kaosu> Does anyone know where I can find documentation that illustrates the cryptography used for full-disk encryption when selecting it from the alternate installation CD? I am just curious to know the algorithm used, key-length, and any other implementation information. Thanks in advance for the reference or information.
[03:29] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[03:29] <Nautilus> asking again due to all the scrolling: I ran Uppdate Manager in 10.04LTS but php is still 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.17 and I need at least 5.3.3 ... need info on doing that please
[03:31] <soliloquy1> I just installed Ubuntu alongside OS X; my install from live CD went fine, and I followed the Mactel instructions. I now need to install GRUB2 to my GRUB parition because it isn't seeing Ubuntu ("Missing operating system"); the only issue is, when I now try to boot off my live cd, I get a black screen with a white blinking cursor. What now?
[03:31] <Stanley00> Nautilus: well, then try find some ppa, or upgrade your Ubuntu
[03:32] <nina666> TJ-, ok i have followed this part of the post: dconf-editor from the dconf-tools package. Use the tool to browse to desktop...unity...panel and change systray-whitelist parameter to ['all'] . This will allow all icons to show. Alternatively, you could add 'skype' to the list.
[03:32] <nina666> TJ-, now im gonna restart and see how..
[03:33] <Nautilus> Stanley00: ppa?
[03:33] <Stanley00> !ppa | Nautilus
[03:33] <Nautilus> ah, yuk
[03:34] <Nautilus> when I upgraded from 8.04LTS to 10.04LTS it broke stuff (I primariliy use the LAMP stack).  Think 10.04->12.04 would go any better?
[03:35] <nsi> weatheredwatcher.
[03:38] <gr72> How can I add ubuntu to the grub.cfg thatbI have on a different system? I have the kernel and the initrd stated and I try to boot an only get a blck screen with a blinking underscore. Any thoughts?
[03:41] <kaosu> I assume no one here knows any specifics regarding the full-disk encryption that is used from the alternate CD? I have tried looking online, but can't find any real information, and I am attempting to verify if it is standards compliant with a strict policy I am implementing.
[03:43] <Nautilus> if I want to upgrade 10.04LTS should I do it in increments or go straight to 12.04?
[03:43] <Pecker> go straight
[03:44] <Pecker> but eprsonally id clean install
[03:44] <Pecker> or sitck with 10.04
[03:44] <Nautilus> the php is 5.3.2 but I need at least 5.3.3 and don't know how to do that :(
[03:45] <Pecker> id say 3rd party repos but then people would chew me out
[03:45] <gr72> Here is the grub.cfg http://fpaste.or/X7b0
[03:45] <Nautilus> sounds troublesome too
[03:45] <SnapSnap> When I try to run a script with a limited account, terminal asks for the limited account's password. When I input the password I get the error message "[account-name] is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported." How can I run the script in this account?
[03:46] <Pecker> does the script functrions require something to be sudoed>
[03:46] <Pecker> ?
[03:46] <Nautilus> guess I need to make a backup too, what's an easy way to do that?  I want it to include things like my Filezilla configs, etc
[03:46] <SnapSnap> Pecker: Yes, it installs an application.
[03:46] <Pecker> a lto of app configs are in your home folder
[03:47] <kaosu> Nautilus: Why not just remove PHP with APT, and download the source of the version you need from the official website. After that, just extract the contents to something like /usr/src, cd to it, and then simply configure, make, install, clean with the correct rights.
[03:47] <goddard> i have a icon stuck in my unity toolbar
[03:47] <goddard> it wont go away
[03:48] <kaosu> APT *should* detect the manually compiled software as a "manually installed" package, so it should not create conflict with APT in the future.
[03:48] <pf> alguien habla español
[03:48] <Nautilus> kaosu: not sure I know enough to do that either
[03:48] <pf> alguien sabe como instalar Video DownloadHelper en srware iron
[03:48] <SnapSnap> When I try to run a script with a limited account, terminal asks for the limited account's password. When I input the password I get the error message "[account-name] is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported." How can I run the script in this account?
[03:49] <kaosu> Snap: Add that user to whatever group the the sudoers file specifies.
[03:49] <kaosu> If a group called "sudo" exists, add them to that group. If not, add them to wheel.
[03:50] <kaosu> Those are the most common, and doing so will allow that user to access sudo without issue.
[03:51] <kaosu> You should be able to easily do that by going to System -> Users and Groups. Select the user from the list, and click on "Manage Groups".
[03:51] <Nautilus> i wouldnt mind a clean 12.04 install, but that takes me back to making a full backup. don't want to find out I missed something later
[03:51] <kaosu> Then add the user to the appropriate group.
[03:51] <Nautilus> can I "cp" the whole drive for a proper backup?
[03:51] <goddard> SnapSnap: a limited user isn't in the sudo user group so run it as another user
[03:52] <SnapSnap> goddard: Will it still install the program to the limited account?
[03:53] <kaosu> Nautilus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[03:53] <goddard> SnapSnap: yes
[03:53] <Nautilus> kaosu: thanks
[03:54] <SnapSnap> Thanks. I'm off to do just that
[03:57] <goddard> i have a icon stuck in my unity toolbar
[03:57] <goddard> it wont go away
[03:57] <sideshow> list
[03:58] <goddard> ?
[04:00] <kaosu> If anyone else wanted to know, I finally found information about Ubuntu's alternate CD methods for encrypting an entire disk. The implementation used seems to be AES-CBC with a 128-bit key-length.  Which is sadly lacking. However, with a little tweaking, I found you can easily use AES-XTS-PLAIN64 with a 256-bit key-length if so desired. So, I guess I found my answer, lol.
[04:00] <kaosu> I hope that information helps anyone else who may have been also wondering.
[04:03] <Nautilus> for backup purposes, do I just backup all the files? what about my sql DBs?
[04:10] <djleefn> ?
[04:11] <Guest75> anyone know how i can use for default unity 2d
[04:12] <Guest75> anyone know how i can use for default unity 2d
[04:19] <luftikuss> Nautilus: For Bbackup purposes it is generally not necessary nor desirable to copy all files. --  I am backing up my MySQL DBs together with my normal backup procedure. But many power users do backup MySQL DBs differently using a dump.
[04:23] <netecho_> Hi, I've switched from Unity / lightDM to GDM/Gnome3-Classic on my system however I seem to be missing the ability to right click panels to add / remove panels, keyboard shortcuts , and well the Close Minimize and Maximize buttons are on the left which bugs me, can anyone help with this?
[04:23] <Nautilus> luftikuss: I am hoping for a complete backup, so I dont miss something.  How do you do your MySQL backup?
[04:24] <drounse> is there a way to turn apci off?
[04:24] <drounse> before i boot
[04:24] <linuxuz3r_> hi
[04:24] <linuxuz3r_> my chrome cant seem to play html5 video player
[04:26] <zombie-y> I can't get this python script to see USB!
[04:26] <zombie-y> does anyone program in Python in here?
[04:26] <Guest60273> whats an easy command to move all files of a certain extension recursively from a directory? like I have alot of .mp3 files in subdirs of a folder but only want to move the .mp3 files elsewhere
[04:27] <rgenito> hmm, not sure if this is the right place...
[04:27] <rgenito> but any ideas why (all of a sudden) ubuntu cannot boot?
[04:28] <rgenito> no hard drive is found... and 2.2TB Infinity boots up instead (my BIOS will try booting from 2.2TB infinity if no other boot device is found)
[04:28] <rgenito> HOWEVER, when i boot from a CD rom, the ubuntu install does find the normal hard drive to install to.
[04:28] <rgenito> any ideas?
[04:35] <dalek_> Does anyone know what the little white numbers in a bubble over the icons in the unity dash mean? I have a (   2   ) over my "home" dash icon.... why?
[04:35] <rgenito> nope =[
[04:36] <astrochump> Guest60273,     find  /yourmp3dir -iname '*.mp3' -print0| xargs -0 cp -t /newmp3dir
[04:36] <dalek_> when it appears over the update manager dash icon, it represents the number of updates... but over the home icon??? and other icons??? what is the little number for?
[04:37] <JKnaak> hello
[04:37] <JKnaak> =)
[04:37] <Guest60273> astrochump, thank you. I am sure that works however it will be a long time before I can test it since I gotta wait for this conversion script to finish
[04:37] <JKnaak> i need to get drunk
[04:37] <chanyeol> hello, I want to upgrade bluetooth module based on current release version... where could get the simple manual ?
[04:37] <rgenito> hey guys, is there a way--from the installer--to boot the ubuntu machine on the harddrive?
[04:38] <rgenito> more importantly... i need to do it from the installer
[04:38] <Guest60273> JKnaak, nah you need to get drunk and stoned.
[04:38] <JKnaak> Guest60273 sounds much better
[04:38] <JKnaak> i should do ur way =)
[04:38] <Nautilus> right
[04:38] <Nautilus> mis-chan
[04:39] <JKnaak> rgenito u lost the mbr?
[04:40] <dalek_> does anyone here know anything about the unity interface?
[04:42] <rgenito> JKnaak: actually, i think my motherboard just wont recognize my normal 500GB SATA drive (as opposed to 2.2TB infinity) in the instance where i have 4 GPUs hooked up
[04:43] <_skpl> irc; the place where white people go.
[04:44] <Guest60273> random
[04:45] <gmagno> hello, is there a script, like rc.local, that is run when a certain user logs in?
[04:46] <gmagno> by certain, I mean specific
[04:47] <Moc> How does one Alt-Tab with a file being drag in Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[04:47] <Moc> For example, draging file from nautilus to a thunderbird for attachement
[05:00] <covi> Are there any good emule clients that support web interface or has a good CLI?
[05:10] <rexis> anyone know a great bittorent client for command line
[05:11] <theadmin> rexis: Try aria2c. Deluge has a command-line interface too but it feels weird.
[05:11] <rexis> thanks
[05:12] <covi> theadmin: aria2c does not support emule right?
[05:12] <covi> ed2k
[05:12] <theadmin> covi: I don't think it does
[05:13] <covi> theadmin: do you know of anything that does support ed2k, and also provides a cli/webUI?
[05:13] <theadmin> covi: Nope, I never looked for anything to support emule specifcially, so even if I do I overlooked that feature
[05:14] <cellofellow> I've got a strange problem. I've got a directory (actually /var/tmp) full of tens of thousands of jpeg files of the name format brender.jpgNNNNNN. I need to remove them all, so you'd think rm brender.jpg* would do it, but that command exits immediately and deletes none of them. I'm now doing find brender in brender*; do rm $brender; done; but that is slow, but it is working. Anything to make rm actually work?
[05:14] <cellofellow> I do have write access to the files.
[05:14] <cellofellow> and, just like that, it's about done
[05:15] <cellofellow> ok, I deleted those 2GB of files, and df -h on my / still says it's full.
[05:17] <bugzc_> Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone could tell me why the following outputs in chunks every now and then instead of the intended 'tail -F'-esque live output (one liner)? tail -F /var/log/squid3/access.log | perl -pe 's/^\d+\.\d+/localtime($&)/e;' | ccze -C
[05:18] <bugzc_> not entirely ubuntu-specific I suppose =)
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> bugsc_:you know colortail?
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> bugzc_
[05:30] <bugzc_> nope
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> !info colortail | bugzc_
[05:30] <bugzc_> I want to use ccze because it colours the squid logs the way I like
[05:31] <bugzc_> Though regardless of what I end up using, I am quite curious to know why what I did yielded such weird results
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> bugzc_:you want it to log in realtime?
[05:32] <bugzc_> yup
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> bugzc_:try installing colortail, then colortail -f /var/log/whatever
[05:32] <theadmin> bugzc_: Second command... Change to: perl -pe '$| = 1; s/^\d+\.\d+/localtime($&)/e;'
[05:32] <theadmin> bugzc_: Perl has buffering by default.
[05:33] <bugzc_> theadmin: Any way to bypass?
[05:33] <theadmin> bugzc_: I just showed you how ;)
[05:33] <bugzc_> Whops, just noticed. Must be getting tired!
[05:33] <bugzc_> Let me give it a shot here
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> the real experts are in tha house
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> u gotta love opensource community
[05:35] <bugzc_> theadmin: it's much better :) thank you!
[05:36] <bugzc_> It does scroll from the top down though oddly hm
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> bugzc_:many logs happen in short time?
[05:37] <bugzc_> lotuspsychje: what?
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> nvm
[05:37] <k_sze> How do I know if I am in a jailshell or if I have real Bash?
[05:37] <Oliver_> Hi
[05:37] <bugzc_> lotuspsychje: Alrighty
[05:38] <theadmin> k_sze: If you are in jailshell, $0 is likely set to something other than /bin/bash
[05:38] <dgsafewright> Has anyone tried to run Oil Rush on an Intel HD 3000?
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> dgsafewright:describe your problem mate
[05:40] <k_sze> theadmin: `echo $0` gives me "-bash". I guess I'm in real Bash.
[05:40] <dgsafewright> I was thinking about getting the game. But from the forums on the oilrush site an intel hd 3000 may not have enough power to run it
[05:40] <theadmin> k_sze: Guess so
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> dgsafewright:isnt there like a demo you can run on ubuntu?
[05:42] <dgsafewright> not sure, I can look further into it
[05:43] <daemontux> i have  a newb question even tho im far from a newb but its a irritation
[05:43] <dgsafewright> I don't think there is a demo available
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> !ask | deamontux
[05:43] <daemontux> mouse pointer wont go away when playing full screen video in compiz
[05:43] <daemontux> xine, parole, mplayer, vlc etc
[05:48] <dgsafewright> It looks like there is a demo version available on desura, just not in ubuntu software center.
[05:48] <dgsafewright> If the demo works then the full version could be supported from either the devolopers site or ubuntu software center.
[05:54] <silv3r_m00n> why this http://pastebin.com/PYPL6TgZ   ?
[05:57] <SilvereX> Yo
[05:57] <SilvereX> Anybody here good with mass storage devices?
[05:58] <jagginess> SilvereX, well it can be large but in a very thumbnail package..
[05:59] <SilvereX> Okay then, more specifically, anybody good at troubleshooting MP3s?
[06:01] <AcidRain_> hey is there any type of system monitor that can run in like its attached to desktop all transparent cool looking kinda like a widget?
[06:01] <Renton> Trying to install Ubuntu and I'm having a bit of trouble. I previously dual-booted Windows and Slackware, I deleted the Slackware partition and installed Ubuntu in its place. However, LILO still exists and I can't boot into Ubuntu with it. I tried using the Windows Repair options to reset the bootloader to get rid of LILO but that doesn't work either... Any ideas of how I can purge LILO?
[06:02] <crimsonmane> AcidRain_: there's lots of such widgets if you use K Desktop Environment (KDE)
[06:02] <crimsonmane> otherwise Conky i think it's called
[06:02] <crimsonmane> but it's less than pretty
[06:02] <AcidRain_> crimsonmane: ouch... i use LXDE
[06:02] <AcidRain_> crimsonmane: wat are some examples of these widgets?
[06:02] <crimsonmane> look up Conky as a tool that will give you the goal but without the pretty
[06:03] <crimsonmane> AcidRain_: well, your "desktop" is nothing more than a folder, and KDE displays your "desktop" as a widget. there's weather, calendar, social media, system load monitoring, heat monitoring... there's a LOT
[06:04] <crimsonmane> tell me about your computer. LXDE is for older/slower hardware, you might be able to use KDE
[06:05] <AcidRain_> crimsonmane: -,- so your telling me after hrs of pimping out the ldxe u are suggesting that using anything other than kde is waste of time?
[06:06] <goddard> hi
[06:06] <crimsonmane> AcidRain_: no. it'll take you hours to pimp out kde too
[06:07] <crimsonmane> but it's worth taking a look at IF your hardware can handle it. and the learning you gained by pimping LXDE is extremely valuable. you won't learn that by using hand-me-downs
[06:07] <AcidRain_> well if they dont have the cool widgets for lxde
[06:07] <goddard> does anyone know how i can manually remove an item from the unity toolbar?
[06:07] <crimsonmane> AcidRain_: they might. you'll have to do more research.
[06:07] <AcidRain_> omg. what is the kde package called so i can install? lol
[06:07] <crimsonmane> goddard: right click it and remove it
[06:07] <goddard> crimsonmane: manually
[06:07] <crimsonmane> AcidRain_: one moment
[06:08] <SilvereX> goddard: right click it and remove it?
[06:08] <crimsonmane> SilvereX: i think he means command line
[06:08] <IdleOne> goddard: rename/remove the proper .desktop file
[06:09] <goddard> IdleOne: i see thank you
[06:09] <IdleOne> goddard: simplest way is to right click and remove
[06:09] <crimsonmane> AcidRain_: kde-standard
[06:09] <goddard> IdleOne: i would but it isn't working
[06:09] <SilvereX> So anyway, I guess I'll ask my question again
[06:09] <AcidRain_> aight cool. imma do a little more research before i switch
[06:09] <crimsonmane> AcidRain_: also "kde-desktop"
[06:09] <crimsonmane> sorry
[06:09] <SilvereX> I just bought an MP3 player today, but it's not showing up when I plug it in. Anybody know why?
[06:09] <crimsonmane> kde-desktop-plasma
[06:10] <crimsonmane> der
[06:10] <crimsonmane> kde-plasma-desktop
[06:10] <crimsonmane> that's it
[06:10] <crimsonmane> there's two that look like "the main one"
[06:10] <goddard> SilvereX: did you check and see if it was compatable?
[06:10] <crimsonmane> SilvereX: is it usb?
[06:11] <SilvereX> goddard: I'll check
[06:11] <SilvereX> crimsonmane: Yes, it's USB
[06:11] <goddard> crimsonmane: what else would it be?
[06:11] <crimsonmane> goddard: bluetooth
[06:11] <crimsonmane> SilvereX: in a terminal type "lsusb"
[06:11] <crimsonmane> with it plugged in of course
[06:12] <goddard> guess i dont stay up on all the bluetooth devices cause ive never seen one you couldn't plug in
[06:12] <AcidRain_> crimsonmane: found something called screenlets. gonna check that out
[06:13] <SilvereX> crimsonemane: http://pastebin.com/XtcQqPN0
[06:13] <AcidRain_> looks like ill have to have python knowledge
[06:13] <crimsonmane> AcidRain_: you should do it. be smart in linux. don't take no for an answer.
[06:13] <crimsonmane> SilvereX: is the device turned on?
[06:14] <wifioregon> My "M" key on keyboard is barely working. How do I make another key work as an "M" key? Ubuntu 12.04 gnome-classic
[06:14] <CosmicB> I'd say that in fact many apps in linux was created just because someone said it couldn't be done:p
[06:15] <SilvereX> crimsonmane: Of course. When I plug it in, it says on the MP3 player screen "USB Connected"
[06:16] <CosmicB> SilvereX: type 'dmesg' in a terminal right after you plugged in the player, see if it says anything interesting
[06:16] <cfhowlett> what's the package name for the community art alternatives??
[06:16] <CosmicB> cfhowlett: try : apt-cache search communit | grep art
[06:17] <cfhowlett> CosmicB: thanks.  will do
[06:17] <SilvereX> Every time I plug it in
[06:17] <CosmicB> I'd say : community-themes - desktop artwork by the Ubuntu community
[06:18] <SilvereX> crimsonmane: Every time I plug it in, I get this
[06:18] <SilvereX> crimsonmane: [ 6383.424087] usb 2-5: new high-speed USB device number 21 using ehci_hcd
[06:18] <crimsonmane> so the computer sees it
[06:18] <crimsonmane> i don't know how to mount things in terminal, but that sounds like your next step of research
[06:19] <CosmicB> SilvereX: install gparted, and see if it can see your mp3 player partition .  or you could unplug the player, iussue: ls -l /dev/sd*, then plug in the  player and issue ls -l /dev/sd* and see if any new drives show up
[06:20] <SilvereX> I have gparted
[06:20] <SilvereX> It doesn't seem to recognize it
[06:20] <CosmicB> dmesg should show that though
[06:20] <CosmicB> SilvereX: ah, ok. seems so then
[06:20] <SilvereX> CmosmicB dmesg showed that the computer does recognize it's been connected
[06:21] <tom___> is it a common problem where upon shutting ubuntu down, it hangs at the 5 dots screen?
[06:22] <CosmicB> SilvereX: yes, could it be that the player is one of those that doesn't show up like a usb drive or usb pen ? for like 10 years ago I had an mp3 player that needed a special application to upload/download files to ...I thought they didn't make them like that anymore
[06:22] <theadmin> tom___: Not too common, but happens. Try booting with "reboot=bios"
[06:22] <crimsonmane> SilvereX: make and model of your player?
[06:22] <SilvereX> It never came with any special software
[06:22] <SilvereX> Nor does it say on the packaging you need it
[06:22] <tom___> theadmin: safe to hard-poweroff? i've just installed updates and stuff. thought it might be tidying up etc before shutdown
[06:23] <tom___> it has been a few minutes now though
[06:23] <CosmicB> SilvereX: do you have any other computers to test on, any other OS available, to compare how it works over there ?
[06:23] <crimsonmane> SilvereX: make and model of your player?
[06:23] <theadmin> tom___: Well, it's not really "safe" but nothing too awful will happen now that it's shutting down already
[06:23] <crimsonmane> tom___: ubuntu does not do update stuff at shutdown. that's a windows thing.
[06:24] <SilvereX> crimsonmane: Not sure of the make
[06:24] <SilvereX> crimsonmane: But model is "A8704"
[06:24] <SilvereX> crimsonmane: http://dicksmith.com.au/product/A8705/dick-smith-mp3-video-player-8gb-red
[06:24] <CosmicB> he he, yeah, and ubuntu doesn't spend half a day to update ALL packages (compared to windowz who might spend half a day to upgrade only microsoft software) :p
[06:27] <Guest67680> hey all
[06:27] <crimsonmane> SilvereX: http://reviews.dse.co.nz/8465-en_nz/A4753/reviews.htm
[06:27] <crimsonmane> ??
[06:30] <SilvereX> crimsonmane: http://reviews.dse.co.nz/8465-en_nz/A8706/reviews.htm
[06:38] <linuxuz3r> i have problems with my lightdm. i have dual monitor setup when i go to login window in lightdm it used to display the interface on my primary display now it is showing on my 2nd display how do i make it so that it only display in the primary monitor and not in the 2nd monitor
[06:39] <crimsonmane> SilvereX: sorry i'm going to bed. but you might look at doing some research into your device, if you need a particular driver or manually mount it.
[06:41] <drounse> is there a way to turn apci off? before i boot
[06:45] <SecretFire> Im trying to compile this program using the make command http://paste.ubuntu.com/1150156/ , but the make command freezes or something and won't compile for some reason. Can someone explain why its getting stuck?
[06:45] <tnm> hellow! I've installed Xubuntu and Ubuntu 12.04 over Oracle VM VirtualBox. Some of the https pages are working and some are not working (the non working pages are gmail, singn into google chrome, facebook login, ...) If i got through Widnows OS, pages are working. Any idea?
[06:45] <wifioregon> Is there anyway I can map my keys in Ubuntu? I want to change which keys on keyboard do what. (My "M" key is having a lot of trouble and would like to setup another "M" key)
[06:45] <somsip> wifioregon: xmodmap?
[06:46] <wifioregon> somsip:  I'll check that out
[06:46] <wifioregon> somsip:  thanks
[06:46] <SilvereX> If I open up a Windows XP VM, would it recognize my MP3?
[06:47] <somsip> wifioregon: np
[06:47] <wauf> clear
[06:47] <SecretFire>  Im trying to compile this program using the make command http://paste.ubuntu.com/1150156/ , but the make command freezes or something and won't compile for some reason. Can someone explain why its getting stuck?
[06:47] <MonkeyDust> SilvereX  you mean mp3 player? better ask in #windows
[06:48] <linuxuz3r> i have problems with my lightdm. i have dual monitor setup when i go to login window in lightdm it used to display the interface on my primary display now it is showing on my 2nd display how do i make it so that it only display in the primary monitor and not in the 2nd monitor
[06:48] <louis_> hallo
[06:49] <SecretFire> seems like the make command is taking forever
[06:50] <auronandace> !checkinstall | SecretFire
[06:50] <SecretFire> thanks auronandace i forgot about checkinstall
[06:54] <Geof> how can I install lubuntu on usb flash&
[06:54] <Geof> fully
[06:54] <Geof> not like live usb
[06:55] <SecretFire> is it normal for checkinstall to take a while?
[06:56] <Geof> how can I install lubuntu on usb flash fully not like live usb
[07:07] <Marzata> have problems upgrading
[07:07] <Marzata> dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 0:
[07:07] <Marzata>  field name `../../../../../share/pyshared/UpdateManager/Core/MetaRelease.py' must be followed by colon
[07:07] <Marzata> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[07:08] <Calthropstu> anyone alive?
[07:08] <Marzata> what could be the reason?
[07:10] <tavish> hi, i am suddenly unable to log in to ubuntu 12.04 unity-greeter screen. It keeps looping to the login screen when i try. Where should I look for the problem?
[07:11] <Marzata> Preconfiguring packages ...
[07:11] <Marzata> dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 0:
[07:11] <Marzata>  field name `../../../../../share/pyshared/UpdateManager/Core/MetaRelease.py' must be followed by colon
[07:11] <Marzata> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[07:11] <Marzata> A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
[07:11] <FloodBot1> Marzata: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:12] <Marzata> FloodBot1: ah, sorry
[07:13] <somsip> Marzata: working solution here: http://superuser.com/questions/392035/e-sub-process-usr-bin-dpkg-returned-an-error-code-1
[07:13] <somsip> Marzata: sorry - this is a similar issue rather than exactly the same. Worth checking out though
[07:14] <Marzata> we got it this morning out of nothing
[07:16] <tavish> i was able to do 'service lightdm stop; startx' which did get me to my desktop. so i assume there is some problem with lightdm, or unity-greeter. anyone?
[07:16] <thufir_> update-alternatives --config java  when I run that I don't see openjdk.  however, openjdk is installed.  how do I switch to it?
[07:19] <Marzata> any idea for a fix? we got this an error  while upgrading this morning http://paste.ubuntu.com/1150188/
[07:19] <somsip> Marzata: did you follow up those links?
[07:21] <thufir_> how do I switch to openjdk?
[07:22] <Knight_Of_Ni> thufir_: sudo apt-get install *; sudo apt-get remove *
[07:22] <thufir_> Knight_Of_Ni: pardon, I mean how do i switch to it?  it's already installed.
[07:23] <GG_shine> MSG oy  http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/linux/3351312/how-install-ubuntu-using-usb-flash-drive/
[07:23] <Knight_Of_Ni> thufir_: Hmm, i think those options are in your WM
[07:24] <timfrost> thufir_: is openjdk offered by 'update-java-alternatives --list'?  Which Ubuntu release?
[07:24] <thufir_> WM?  windows manager?  not update-alternatives --config java?  it doesn't sho w in that list.  i'm on 12.04 pangolin
[07:24] <Knight_Of_Ni> thufir_: Woops, i meant DE
[07:25] <Knight_Of_Ni> thufir_: For editing default/preffered applications (if i inderstand your question correctly)
[07:26] <BlackWeb> I have a Hard Drive that I recently bought, Which sometimes when I boot then the device identifier changes, so example /dev/sdc to /dev/sdg - Which i have 2 Hard Drives and only the new drive does that occasionally, Which reason i care is it takes longer to boot when it does that trying to locate the drive in fstab, Which I run FSCK on the Drive and it's like it freezes I left my computer running for 2 days and it never finished,
[07:26] <BlackWeb> which on the other hand then the other drive i have it took only 5 hrs to FSCK it same capacity, But other then that the Drive still mounts fine and i can copy to and from it, but does that mean its going bad or I received a bad drive
[07:26] <thufir_> err, no.  I want to switch java versions.  I use java for programming and whatnot.  when I run update-alternatives it doesn't show openjdk.  however, openjdk is installed.
[07:27] <Knight_Of_Ni> thufir_: Its kind of a stupid solution, but have you considered to just remove the jdk you do not want?
[07:28] <Knight_Of_Ni> thufir_: But i can see im not of muxh help since Java isnt really my language....
[07:28] <iceroot> BlackWeb: much text... your "problem" is that in fstab you are using /dev/sdb  and sometimes it will change to /dev/sdc?
[07:30] <BlackWeb> Ya have to hard drives and sometime one will change the on the identifier, which that hard drive wont complete a FSCK either
[07:30] <iceroot> BlackWeb: which ubuntu version? because newer versions are not using /dev/sdb anymore but UUID
[07:30] <BlackWeb> Which reason i care is computer wont boot sometimes or takes like 10 Minutes coming on when it changes,
[07:30] <timfrost> thufir_: Are you wanting to change the default java used by the system, or change the java used by your IDE?  Because update-alternatives or update-java-alternatives set the system java, which will affect anything that needs the system java.
[07:30] <BlackWeb> Ubuntu 12.04 Server
[07:31] <BlackWeb> so should i modify fstab to use UUID
[07:31] <iceroot> BlackWeb: can you paste your fstab please
[07:31] <iceroot> !paste | BlackWeb
[07:31] <iceroot> BlackWeb: always, yes
[07:31] <iceroot> BlackWeb: see "sudo blkid"
[07:32] <bonhoeffer> i have a bunch of photos, i need to look through them a delete a ton of stuff, what is a good application for that?
[07:32] <thufir_> timfrost: I want to change which java is used system wide.  but, I'm not seeing open jdk as an option.  I'll pastebin what I see
[07:34] <BlackWeb> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[07:34] <BlackWeb> proc            /proc           proc    nodev,noexec,nosuid 0       0
[07:34] <BlackWeb> # / was on /dev/sda1 during installation
[07:34] <BlackWeb> UUID=737fc583-636a-44e0-a23e-e650109022b4 /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[07:34] <BlackWeb> # swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation
[07:34] <FloodBot1> BlackWeb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:34] <BlackWeb> UUID=36eeb46a-0129-494f-9e16-ba40d34821d4 none            swap    sw              0       0
[07:34] <BlackWeb> I tried pasting with http:://past.ubuntu.com and it wouldnt work
[07:34] <BlackWeb> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1150202/
[07:35] <BlackWeb> So with FSCK not being able to complete the Scan of the Disk then does that mean that the hard drive is bad
[07:35] <Marzata> somsip: yes. thank you, but didn't help
[07:35] <thufir_> timfrost: lol, I think it's user error.  pardon, I was reading something wrong.
[07:37] <linuxuz3r> i have problems with my lightdm. i have dual monitor setup when i go to login window in lightdm it used to display the interface on my primary display now it is showing on my 2nd display how do i make it so that it only display in the primary monitor and not in the 2nd monitor
[07:37] <somsip> Marzata: try https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/10265
[07:38] <somsip> Marzata: or http://lifeonubuntu.com/
[07:47] <oy> GG_shine: can you stop spaming me?
[07:51] <ControllerSYR> i need type arabic in termenel how ?
[07:52] <islandmonkey> ControllerSYR: What are you trying to do?
[07:54] <ControllerSYR> i need send mail in termenel in arabic languge
[07:54] <ControllerSYR> i cant
[07:55] <islandmonkey> ControllerSYR: Why can't you use something like Thunderbird?
[07:55] <fishbait> how do i get ubuntu to scan for new hardware?
[07:56] <islandmonkey> fishbait: udev should detect it automatically. Go to Log File Viewer, click on syslog.log and pastebin what that says
[07:57] <islandmonkey> Obviously, just pastebin what is relevant
[07:58] <BlackWeb> So if a Hard drive wont complete a FSCK, but appears to work for the most part does that mean its going bad
[07:58] <ret> Hi
[08:00] <ret> From where can i learn about OS?
[08:00] <DJones> !manual | ret
[08:01] <ret> And for learning shell script
[08:01] <ret> ???
[08:01] <fishbait> when i installed ubuntu i had already put in radeon hd 6670 pcie card now i'm making sure its detected the recently enabled onboard radeon hd 4250 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1150224/
[08:01] <Andy80> ret, you should look for a Bash manual then
[08:01] <hateball> ret: #bash can probably point you to some useful resources
[08:03] <tnm> where do i set mouse scrool because it is not working?
[08:03] <ControllerSYR> شىي صاشف هس فاهس
[08:03] <ControllerSYR> and what is this Thunderbird ?
[08:03] <islandmonkey> ControllerSYR: Mail program
[08:04] <ControllerSYR> ok
[08:04] <ControllerSYR> can i open image in termenel ?
[08:05] <Marzata> somsip: thank you very much! sudo dpkg --clear-avail did the job.
[08:05] <islandmonkey> ControllerSYR: Nope.
[08:05] <Andy80> ControllerSYR, are you a bot?
[08:06] <ControllerSYR> what bot ?
[08:06] <trond-> is it so that 12.04.1 arrives today?
[08:07] <fishbait> islandmonkey: when i installed ubuntu i had already put in radeon hd 6670 pcie card now i'm making sure its detected the recently enabled onboard radeon hd 4250 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1150224/
[08:08] <islandmonkey> fishbait: Can post the relevant stuff only there? It's a bit hard to find what's wrong
[08:08] <DJones> trond-: /w 21
[08:08] <DJones> trond-: It looks like its due for release today
[08:10] <DJones> trond-: Actually, just checking, today is final freeze, the schedule page suggests August 23rd for 12.04.1 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[08:10] <ControllerSYR> no i am human
[08:10] <ControllerSYR> andy80
[08:10] <somsip> ControllerSYR: yes - you need to look up details about fbview
[08:11] <trond-> DJones, I also thought that it was August 23, but I read somewhere that it would happen today... Ok. so another week of waiting then.
[08:11] <fishbait> yeah i'm not certain i'll look more into it tommorrow i just scanned throug the log didn't look like it added anything. but sleep tonight play with gpu tomorrow
[08:11] <DJones> trond-: First search I did suggested today, but I'd go with the official date
[08:11] <DarsVaeda> where do I put programs I build myself?
[08:12] <DarsVaeda> /usr/bin ?
[08:12] <trond-> DJones, that and if the Update Manager tells you that there is a new version out.
[08:12] <DJones> trond-: Yep, thats a good way of knowing
[08:13] <ControllerSYR> what fbview ?
[08:14] <nydel> where are the default sounds?
[08:14] <timfrost> trond-: DJones: update manager won't detect 12.04.1 as a new version if you are already running 12.04, because 12.04.1 = 12.04 + lots of package updates
[08:14] <nydel> in which directory i mean
[08:15] <trond-> timfrost, DJones I am running 10.04.
[08:15] <ControllerSYR> ok
[08:15] <DarsVaeda> I have compiled a program on console and now I want to be able to run it with just "program -options" how do I achieve that?
[08:15] <ControllerSYR> tank you
[08:16] <fego> can anyone point me to some cool resources on encription of Ubuntu server
[08:16] <timfrost> DarsVaeda: put it in $HOME/bin and add that to your path
[08:16] <DarsVaeda> how do I add it to my path?
[08:16] <fego> the root partition is all i have to encrypt
[08:18] <timfrost> trond-:  what does 'gksu update-manager -c' report?
[08:18] <nydel> fego: in system -> sounds, there are default system sounds.. do you know where they are in filesystem?
[08:18] <fego> DarsVaeda: or while running the program pri\ovide the absolute path
[08:19] <fego> nydel: i am on a headless ubuntu server
[08:20] <fego> there is no GUI
[08:20] <yuanyelele> hi, why doesnt cp -r copy files in alphabet order?
[08:21] <nydel> fego: any chance you know of a good free collection of system sounds? i'd rather not make my own right now, i used to download drumkits then modify them or make my own with a red bull can etc but in the interest of doing as little work as possible..
[08:22] <llutz> yuanyelele: they will be copied in the order they appear in the filesystem index. if you want to copy alphabetical, use rsync -av    not cp
[08:23] <DarsVaeda> timfrost: thanks figured out how to put it in the path, works now
[08:23] <trond-> timfrost, does not report that there is a new version out. So I am just holding. No rush.
[08:23] <yuanyelele> llutz: does copy in filesystem order faster?
[08:23] <J0BI> how i will make this TP-Link Wireless USB Adapter N150 TL-WN723N work in lubuntu
[08:23] <J0BI> ?
[08:24] <J0BI> i can see it in lsusb
[08:24] <llutz> yuanyelele: i never benchmarked it, idk
[08:24] <J0BI> but i think there is no driver
[08:24] <Geof> I created Lubuntu Live USB from lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso using Unetbootin, it didn't boot on netbook and desktop, what could the reason be?
[08:24] <s1n4> unity crashes so much for me, my ubuntu is up to date but as always unity sucks for me, I'm looking for a good replacement, a useful think for a programmer, does anyone know one?
[08:25] <J0BI> i found this http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/rtl819x  is can someone tell me how to install this driver
[08:25] <kaosu> Xubuntu is a good lightweight replacement to Ubuntu if you want to get away from the nightmare that is Unity.
[08:25] <emmy> my machine seems to think my headphones jack is surround sound... any way I can fix this?
[08:25] <J0BI> s1n4:  try lubuntu,xubuntu,solusos,mint
[08:26] <kaosu> To get your wireless adapter working, you will need to get NDISWrapper, and the driver from a Windows installation or the CD itself. You will need the .INF and .SYS file in most cases.
[08:26] <yuanyelele> llutz: thanks, that works!
[08:26] <s1n4> J0BI: I will never migrate to anythoer distros, but I think Xubuntu sounds good
[08:26] <timfrost> trond-: If you are running 10.04.x, then you won't be offered 12.04 until the update-manager package for 10.04 has been updated to detect it ( which is likely to be on/after the 12.04.1 release date)
[08:26] <s1n4> any other
[08:26] <islandmonkey> You don't even need to use another distro
[08:27] <J0BI> s1n4:  lubuntu is faster
[08:27] <islandmonkey> Just sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:27] <s1n4> islandmonkey: of course, so what do I do with unity?
[08:27] <Geof> I created Lubuntu Live USB from lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso using Unetbootin, it didn't boot on netbook and desktop, what could the reason be?
[08:27] <J0BI> i suggest clean install xubuntu
[08:27] <islandmonkey> J0BI: Why?
[08:27] <islandmonkey> Makes no difference
[08:28] <codemaniac> nydel: gnome-look.org has a vast amount or resources to swallow
[08:28] <nydel> codemaniac: great, thank you. can i ask, do you use unity?
[08:29] <kaosu> When you install xubuntu-desktop from APT, will it automatically remove all of the old Gnome/KDE/whatever software as well as their heavy dependencies?
[08:29] <islandmonkey> kaosu: You can remove what's left yourself
[08:29] <codemaniac> i have used unity on my dads desktop
[08:29] <wilee-nilee> kaosu, no it just adds that desktop at your choice at login.
[08:29] <nydel> codemaniac: this /is/ quite a bit to swallow! wow, what fun!
[08:30] <tnm> hellow! Anyone else cannot access gmail.com through chrome browser. I'm using Xubuntu 12.04 throught VirtualBox
[08:30] <codemaniac> there are system sound files in the path /usr/share/sounds/
[08:31] <kaosu> Well, that would be reason enough for most people to do a clean installation of Xubuntu versus the APT method. Having a system full of heavy, useless dependencies and bloated software (Unity) taking up disk space that you don't even want seems a bit.... Well, counter-intuitive to such a fork.
[08:31] <kaosu> You would also think having to go through and remove software, bloated dependencies -- it would just be faster to do a clean install.
[08:31] <islandmonkey> Unity ain't bloated
[08:32] <islandmonkey> What's so bloated?
[08:32] <kaosu> I can see the APT method being good for just checking it out, though.
[08:32] <jtac> hello all, i got some issue with my network interface when i try to assign an IP address i get following output :/  http://pastebin.com/z9irzBhn
[08:32] <jtac> also the mac address of ifconfig eth0 give me 00:00:00:00:00
[08:32] <wilee-nilee> If you want to remove full desktops look at playing around in the left column here. Removing unity is not advised. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[08:33] <pitz> jtac, your command makes no sense whatsoever
[08:33] <pitz> jtac, you need to assign a specific IP to an interface, not a range
[08:33] <kaosu> I consider software to be bloated using two different measurements: (1) The amount of dependencies required for the Desktop Environment / Typical software pulled in by it on an average installation. (2) The amount of system resources it takes up under normal conditions.
[08:33] <kaosu> However, "bloated" is a subjective terms in software, and many opinions will differ - so it is best not to argue over it.
[08:34] <kaosu> What one may consider to be bloated, another might find to be rich in support or features, etc.
[08:34] <jtac> pitz: an itnerface needs IP address and a Netmask
[08:34] <wilee-nilee> kaosu, all terms are subjective I'm not sure objectivity actually exists.
[08:35] <kaosu> Objectivity exists in areas where fact can be widely documented, in controlled environments, across a wide spectrum of test-beds.
[08:35] <wilee-nilee> kaosu, that is a weak argument, but that is my opinion from my own reality. ;)
[08:36] <s1n4> anyway, what do I do with unity?
[08:36] <kaosu> Well, I just choose to believe that most fundamental things such as math and science can be considered to have objectivity in their nature.
[08:36] <kaosu> But, with anything, you can get into a realm where one could feel like it no longer exists.
[08:37] <wilee-nilee> s1n4, leave it alone it is just a plugin in compiz which is running with a gnome base
[08:39] <wilee-nilee> kaosu, any theory is a theory until proven different, plenty of examples of this, math is a creative art, and it is this creativity in the higher math which gives it a subjective nature it is not all objective, but probably closer then many things.
[08:39] <wilee-nilee> than*
[08:39] <kaosu> if nothing else, s1n4, give Xubuntu a shot. You might really like XFCE. I personally think XFCE is really awesome, and I enjoy its fundamental approach to a lean system in terms of dependencies, stability, as well as resource consumption.
[08:40] <kaosu> With APT, trying it out would be fast and simple.
[08:40] <s1n4> wilee-nilee: I know, but I dont know what to do with this shit, I like it but it's annoying me with its bugs
[08:40] <kaosu> With an easy way to default back at the login screen if you don't like it.
[08:40] <Roj> hi where i can my ubuntu  programing quastion?(irc chanal
[08:40] <Roj> hi where i can ask my ubuntu  programing quastion?(irc chanal
[08:40] <s1n4> kaosu: thanks :)
[08:41] <wilee-nilee> s1n4, Don't use it choose another desktop and use it I use gnome 3 mainly. Unity is very small in actuality, people have put ways of removing it on the web, but you are subject to messing around where it is a waste of time really, and subject to a bricked setup.
[08:42] <kaosu> Roj: A programming question isn't going to be that specific to Ubuntu, unless you're talking about some obscure modification the developers have done to the kernel or package that is not common among distributions.
[08:42] <kaosu> If anything, you might be better off asking the question in a IRC channel suited for the programming language you're using.
[08:42] <kaosu> an*
[08:43] <Roj> how i can get my application installation in ubuntu  with python when try to package it?
[08:43] <Roj> how i can get my application installation path  in ubuntu  with python when try to package it?
[08:43] <kaosu> I would agree with not attempting to remove Unity. Trying to uproot it from a vanilla Ubuntu installation is far more hassle than it is ever going to be worth.
[08:43] <kaosu> Especially given that it isn't eating up too much space on a modern disk drive.
[08:44] <s1n4> wilee-nilee: I like unity but it sucks sometimes, and I just would like to fix the problems, and if I could find something better then I'm glad to switch
[08:44] <J0BI> how to make TP-Link Wireless USB Adapter N150 TL-WN723N to work in lubuntu
[08:45] <kaosu> Make sure to file bug reports if you would like to help improve Unity.
[08:45] <wilee-nilee> s1n4, if you want just  xubuntu follow this sites instructions. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu
[08:45] <s1n4> wilee-nilee: thanks
[08:46] <wilee-nilee> safest way to go s1n4 no problem enjoy.
[08:46] <gillie-monster> i have no sound on an ibm thinkpad r32 laptop and a compaq evo n610c laptop. ibm is priority
[08:47] <jave_> hello
[08:47] <gillie-monster> any one have any experience with sound problems?
[08:47] <diverdude> How can i see what resolution my screen is running at ?
[08:48] <kaosu> gillie-monster: Open the terminal and issue the command: aplay -l
[08:48] <jave_> I'm trying to remove a package, but I get "error in pre-removal script"
[08:48] <kaosu> Is your sound card listed there?
[08:48] <jave_> how do I debug this?
[08:48] <kaosu> If so, it could be something as simple as changing the default playback device.
[08:48] <jave_> the pkg is flashplugin-installer
[08:49] <gillie-monster> only thing familiar i see is intel ich3
[08:50] <emmy> does anyone know how to make my headphone jack stereo rather then 5.1?
[08:50] <gillie-monster> should be in multimedia in the system settings
[08:52] <rexis> what is the purpose of having a shell acount?
[08:52] <rexis> like shellium
[08:52] <emmy> gillie-monster: I don't have a multimedia option in my system settings =\
[08:52] <gillie-monster> oh must be different on my computer
[08:55] <gillie-monster> u see anything in there about "phonon"?
[09:02] <treebuey> lalala
[09:02] <e66> any idea? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12175585#post12175585
[09:02] <e66> Please mention my name when you reply
[09:03] <amcsi_work> hello
[09:03] <up_the_irons> can anyone direct me to where I should direct this request -- I registered a mirror about 45 days ago, and it is still in "Pending Review", https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/mirrors.arpnetworks.com-archive, anything else I need to do?
[09:04] <gillie-monster> so i did apay -l and it returned intel ich3
[09:04] <amcsi_work> I have problems on my ubuntu 10.04. When git pushing to it though ssh, it gets stuck while writing files. There seems to be some sshd problem that causes this. Is anyone familiar with this?
[09:05] <DJones> up_the_irons: looking at the mirror website it says to contact them at mirrors@ubuntu.com (From the bottom of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors/#Communication )
[09:05] <gillie-monster> not me. 12.04 solved all my technical problems untill this sound issue
[09:06] <amcsi_work> how do I upgrade ssh?
[09:08] <up_the_irons> DJones: ah cool, thanks
[09:08] <rexis> in youtube i always get sorry there was an error please try again later
[09:09] <linuxuz3r> hmm
[09:09] <luftikuss> Firefox: "With this XML file:///usr/src/linux-source-3.2.0/Documentation/DocBook/mtdnand.tmpl there is no style information associated. Firefox will only show the tree view of this document." What program is better suited to view the information in this document in human-readable format?
[09:09] <linuxuz3r> ubuntu just locks up
[09:13] <emmy> audio still sounds... flakey =\
[09:15] <llutz> luftikuss: how do you expect us to have a look on a local file on your system?
[09:16] <emmy> lots of middle tones, not much bass at all
[09:17] <treebuey> can u use vlc? it has an equalizer and boost
[09:18] <linuxuz3r> what is the package for python dev
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> apt-cache search python | grep dev        perhaps?
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> I bet theres a lot of them
[09:18] <Dr_Willis> python-dev - header files and a static library for Python (default)
[09:19] <linuxuz3r> what is there a meta package for python
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> python-all-dev - package depending on all supported Python development packages
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> python - interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version)
[09:21] <pacquiao> anyoe here that have prior experience with monit? I try to monitor sevveral processes but most of the time it only says 'System 'system_$HOSTNAME:' Running' when I run summary
[09:22] <luftikuss> llutz: I described precisely the subject of my concern. So I guess it will be easy for you to view what display image is on my computer just now. Or am I wrong?
[09:24] <llutz> luftikuss: posting a "file:///" URL is plain useless, thats what i wanted to show you.
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> that would be a neat feature to share individual files that way.
[09:25] <luftikuss> llutz: I do not understand you well. Why is »posting a "file:///" URL is plain useless"?
[09:25] <Dr_Willis>   ubuntuone:///somthing/somthing/filename
[09:25] <llutz> Dr_Willis: "we're all cloud" :)
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> luftikuss:  file:// works on YOUR pc..  its a local only path.
[09:26] <luftikuss> Dr_Willis: It works on your computer as well. It Ubuntu 12.04.
[09:26] <luftikuss> Dr_Willis: It works on your computer as well. It is Ubuntu 12.04.
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> like putting file://c:\stuff\wgatever.gif in your browser.
[09:26] <fidel> luftikuss: but it will be always local
[09:26] <Dr_Willis> luftikuss:  i cant see YOUR file on your pc. using  your FILE://path/
[09:26] <llutz> luftikuss: it might work, if someone has installed linux-source
[09:26] <fidel> so while file://foo.blub works on your box - willis will not be able to see/access that particular file
[09:27] <Dr_Willis> bbl. off to work.
[09:27] <lesshaste> how do you tell the mime type of a link?
[09:27] <luftikuss> llutz: Yes. I supposed that readers of this channel have installed the package linux-source.
[09:27] <e66> any idea? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12175585#post12175585 and how can I solve it?
[09:27] <linuxuz3r> is there a meta upgrade?
[09:28] <linuxuz3r> meta package upgrade
[09:29] <nydel> what is the command that shows packets if you're setting up an infra remote control?
[09:29] <llutz> luftikuss: i'd guess, 99% won't because they'll never need it
[09:29] <nydel> in terminal?
[09:29] <luftikuss> Dr_Willis: I did not suppose that you see my file on my pc. I thought you would see an identical Ubuntu file on your pc.
[09:30] <luftikuss> llutz: I see. So what do you suggest me to do?
[09:30] <rexis> ubuntu is debian based right?
[09:30] <luftikuss> rexis: Yes.
[09:31] <llutz> luftikuss: either paste that file to pastebin or look for a website containing it, to use that link
[09:31] <nydel> rexis: in short yes, but some people have opinions about that question that go over my head
[09:31] <rexis> then if linux mint is ubuntu based, but linux mint debian is debian based then what the hell....
[09:31] <dreimark> is there a new freetype2 available?
[09:31] <llutz> gtg
[09:31] <rexis> really linux mint, linux mint debian and ubuntu are all debian based.. rigtht??
[09:32] <dreimark> lots of my documents aare unreadable
[09:32] <dreimark> because of GPL Ghostscript 9.05: Error: Font Renderer Plugin ( FreeType ) return code = -1
[09:32] <antonio__> I just got a droid razr. Is there any kind of desktop software to use with this thing?
[09:33] <iceroot> rexis: ask there channel, offtopic here
[09:33] <gillie-monster> my moto droid requires no software, but its 2 years old
[09:33] <rexis> antonio__, i found this page today: http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[09:33] <antonio__> thanks rexis:
[09:37] <Jonne> does anyone know how to figure out how a backup failed with deja-dup?
[09:37] <Jonne> i sometimes get a notification telling me the backup failed, and i should check the dialog for details
[09:37] <Jonne> but the deja-dup prefs dialog has no details
[09:38] <Jonne> and there's nothing in /var/log related to deja-dup either, AFAICT
[09:38] <iceroot> Jonne: start it from the shell and see if it is generating output
[09:38] <d2kagw> Is anyone else having difficulties running `apt-get updates`? I'm getting 404's and lengthy timeouts for http://security.ubuntu.com sources on my Ubuntu 12.04 machines.
[09:39] <iceroot> d2kagw: you can ping for example google.com from the shell?
[09:39] <d2kagw> iceroot: aye - the machines have full net access
[09:40] <d2kagw> iceroot: this is the output: https://gist.github.com/0b49b915e04efa6c2702
[09:41] <iceroot> d2kagw: natty is not 12.04
[09:41] <iceroot> !natty
[09:41] <iceroot> !eol | d2kagw
[09:41] <iceroot> d2kagw: ah sorry, 11.04 should be still supported
[09:42] <iceroot> d2kagw: but your sources list is massiv wrong when you are using 12.04
[09:42] <amcsi_work> how do I restart sysclt?
[09:42] <Jonne> hmm, when i run deja-dup --backup it shows a progress bar and stuff, it's not in the bg
[09:42] <d2kagw> ice root & ubottu: i'm running 12.04
[09:42] <Jonne> i guess i'll let it run and see if it fails
[09:42] <iceroot> d2kagw: output of "cat /etc/issue"
[09:42] <d2kagw> oh sorry - that output is from 11.04, but the same issue is happening on 12.04 too
[09:42] <d2kagw> iceroot: output is "Ubuntu 11.04 \n \l"
[09:42] <iceroot> d2kagw: please post real outputs here
[09:43] <iceroot> d2kagw: from the machine which is affected
[09:43] <Jonne> ah yes, it's just some files i don't have permissions for (owned by apache)
[09:43] <iceroot> d2kagw: and run "ping -c 4 google.com" from the affected machine
[09:43] <d2kagw> iceroot: i've got two machines, one is 12.04 and the other is 11.04
[09:43] <iceroot> d2kagw: or better "ping -c 4 ubuntu.com"
[09:43] <d2kagw> iceroot: this gist: https://gist.github.com/0b49b915e04efa6c2702 is the output for 11.04
[09:44] <d2kagw> iceroot: zero packet loss for that command
[09:44] <iceroot> d2kagw: you are using a proxy? (maybe a proxy for apt)
[09:44] <auronandace> d2kagw: if you're having problems on the 12.04 machine then why are you giving the outputs from the 11.04 machine?
[09:45] <d2kagw> auronandace: i've got two machines, one 11.04 and the other 12.04 - both machine are having the same issue
[09:46] <d2kagw> iceroot: the machines are VM's inside Virtualbox. I don't have proxies enabled.
[09:46] <iceroot> d2kagw: your sourceslists are wrong
[09:46] <iceroot> d2kagw: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu  instead of http://security.ubuntu.com/
[09:47] <iceroot> d2kagw: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-security universe
[09:47] <iceroot> d2kagw: for example
[09:47] <d2kagw> any idea how this could be the case? these are just base installs?
[09:47] <iceroot> d2kagw: that is not a base install
[09:47] <iceroot> d2kagw: you changed it
[09:47] <d2kagw> or should I say, any idea how these could get out of wack?
[09:47] <JPeterson> "sudo apt-get remove --purge" doesn't remove bins from /usr/bin and "sudo apt-get install --reinstall" doesnt copy them there
[09:47] <iceroot> d2kagw: http://apt.newrelic.com newrelic InRelease
[09:48] <iceroot> d2kagw: that is NEVER a part of a base install
[09:48] <iceroot> d2kagw: so just correct your sourcesfile and everything is fine again
[09:48] <d2kagw> iceroot: is there a way to revert them?
[09:49] <iceroot> d2kagw: with your backup
[09:49] <melvincv> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2043197  Any ideas?
[09:49] <iceroot> d2kagw: like this for 12.04 http://alpha-unix.de/~iceroot/ubuntu/sources.list
[09:50] <d2kagw> iceroot: thanks mate
[09:50] <iceroot> d2kagw: you are welcome
[09:51] <snowgrl373> hey everyone
[09:51] <superfabbb> hello
[09:51] <snowgrl373> i just installed ubuntu 12.04 on my hp mini and having some wireless issues
[09:51] <cretsiah> has any1 got a "realtek high definition audio" system working?
[09:52] <melvincv> Also, I need a good download manager for 12.04...
[09:52] <melvincv> cretsiah, it should work out of the box.
[09:54] <tnm> can i convert .img to .iso ?
[09:54] <melvincv> cretsiah, try the package pavucontrol for adjusting volume levels if the default controls don't work.
[09:54] <snowgrl373> when i installed, i didnt setup wireless, then after install i plugged in the network cable to do updates. i enabled wireless through restricted drivers and it found my wireless card, i restarted and found my router and tried to connect, it looks like its trying to connect then after about 5 mins it says network disconnected
[09:54] <cretsiah> so far i havent found any linux distro that it works "out-of-the-box" something about it being a 64-bit driver file on xp
[09:55] <snowgrl373> any ideas?
[09:55] <auronandace> melvincv: with the user you are having issues with, what is the output of: id
[09:55] <kexwork> hey guys, does anyone know why i cannot connect to ssh via my external IP?(connection refused) but ssh -v localhost works fine?
[09:56] <mat619> Hey guys, got a kinda difficult question today: Could I set up an Ubuntu based print server that hosts a PDF printer in such a way, that a ages old legacy software running on a UNIX system (old Solaris 8) can print on it? That software usually just prints to a hardware printer with a given ID, likely with plain PS or PCL.
[09:56] <snowgrl373> kexwork, port forwarding?
[09:56] <cretsiah> @ melvincv i will try another ubuntu on it, but im a lil low on ram for the machine
[09:56] <DJones> kexwork: Have you forwarded the port on your router to the machine you're trying to access?
[09:56] <melvincv> auronandace, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1150345/
[09:56] <mat619> TBH I've got no idea how linux based print servers work. I just know that in the given environment a windows print server won't work, that's why I'm exploring alternatives
[09:57] <melvincv> cretsiah, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> mat619:  should be possible. cups still supports the lpd stuff. or have the old box just print to .ps and use postscript
[09:57] <snowgrl373> mat619, it will probably work, will just take some setup... not really sure how though, ide turn to google maybe
[09:57] <auronandace> melvincv: you need to add your user to the sudo group
[09:58] <mat619> Dr_Willis: the old box is running such a heavily closed software (written in COBOL some time in the 80s, 90s) that I've got no idea how it prints. I just know that if I give it the IP of a real network printer, these print it
[09:58] <melvincv> auronandace, that's it, thanks.
[09:59] <mat619> snowgrl373: tried googling the issue already, can't find anything really useful since everyone seems to try to host a printer for fellow linux or windows boxes on the network, not something like this dinosaur here
[09:59] <kexwork> DJones: It is a work machine, so am not sure of the rules
[09:59] <auronandace> melvincv: just so you know, that is what the other guy meant in your forum post too
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> mat619:  depends on what printing service its using. or make it print to itself to a ps pr pcl file and capture the  output perhaps and transfer it over
[09:59] <snowgrl373> hm, well someone in here will probably be able to help you
[09:59] <cretsiah> @ melvincv  the last ubuntu i tried was version 11 however i've only got about 1gig of ram on that machine (toshiba sat L30)
[10:00] <snowgrl373> anyone to help with my wireless issue?
[10:00] <mat619> Dr_Willis: I would guess it's really just plain lpd. you didn't have much choise on solaris back in the day, did you? it's all more of a guesswork game, but I can't find any info about it. problem is production uses it, and I got the task of creating a PDF printer appliance for it :(
[10:01] <jbeatty> Does anyone else have trouble with Skype giving a green video in 12.04?
[10:01] <snowgrl373> jbeatty, havent had an issue... anything on google aboutit?
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> mat619:  try just shareing a printer with cups, set server to allow all connections. and give the thing the ip of the server and see.. then check the cups logs..
[10:02] <bazhang> !google | snowgrl373
[10:02] <jbeatty> bazhang: I'm no new user. ;) Just that Google isn't giving me much that is helping.
[10:02] <ylmfos> hello
[10:02] <jbeatty> It's actually all the more confusing since Skype worked perfectly under Arch, Gentoo, and Debian.
[10:02] <mat619> Dr_Willis: might be my best bet. but what do you mean with "set server to allow all connections"? as I said, I've never touched cups before. absolute linux print server greenhorn
[10:03] <bazhang> jbeatty, nor should it. was skype installed from partner repos?
[10:03] <ylmfos> is there any aplication i can use to recover a harddrive under ubuntu?
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> mat619:  cups web settings.  http://localhost:631   has options and docs and info. ;)
[10:03] <bazhang> !undelete | ylmfos
[10:03] <jbeatty> I added the repo and apt-get skype.
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> being paid to go learn.. gotta love it..
[10:03] <bazhang> jbeatty, let me check the forums, hang on a second
[10:04] <DJones> kexwork: To be able to access a machine via ssh from the internet, you will need to have the port forwarded from the router the machine, I don't think there's any other way you can do that
[10:04] <snowgrl373> ubottu, ah, sry about that
[10:05] <mat619> Dr_Willis: oh, nice. at least as far as I can see from screenshots. the cups I installed on my ubuntu server test VM can't be reached cause it's NATting through my workstation. :(  gotta fix that.
[10:05] <mat619> Dr_Willis: thanks for the advice, will try what I can do :)
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> mat619:  cups.org has tons of docs. ;)
[10:06] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11719496&postcount=52 jbeatty here is one possible solution, let me check for any others
[10:06] <snowgrl373> well i guess i dont have the google fu... cant seem to figure out my issue on there lol
[10:10] <subdesign> hey
[10:10] <jbeatty> bazhang: that seems like it should work, I figured there was some LD_PRELOAD sorcery I could do
[10:10] <jbeatty> I will test it ASAP
[10:11] <subdesign> can I set ubuntus calendar to monday - sunday scale? now my last day is saturday. v11.10
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> i seem to recall a 'day begins on...' setting in the time/date settings once... ages ago..
[10:12] <subdesign> ok checking
[10:13] <subdesign> no day begins.. line
[10:16] <Dr_Willis> id have to say check askubuntu.com i bet its been asked befor
[10:16] <Dr_Willis> i could be thinking of the old gnome
[10:16] <subdesign> yes
[10:17] <subdesign> i found some, thanks :)
[10:17] <trond-> subdesign, what did you find?
[10:17] <subdesign> editing /etc/default/locale file
[10:18] <subdesign> or you need exact finding?
[10:19] <trond-> subdesign, no, that's fine... thanks :) Should have been another way than editing a file though.
[10:19] <subdesign> in the above file enter LC_TIME="en_GB.UTF-8" that makes monday the first day of week
[10:20] <subdesign> or type sorry
[10:20] <subdesign> same value with LC_PAPER makes paper size for A4 default :)
[10:20] <Promythyus> HALP. Just installed ubuntu 12.04 on a spare hard drive on a system that was already running windows 7, booting via EFI. I am following this (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting) guide on how to set up UEFI grub, but when I run efibootmgr I get told to modprobe efivars as root even though I have already done that
[10:20] <Promythyus> exact error message: root@Hyperion:~# efibootmgr
[10:20] <Promythyus> Fatal: Couldn't open either sysfs or procfs directories for accessing EFI variables.
[10:20] <Promythyus> Try 'modprobe efivars' as root.
[10:21] <AdvoWork> is there any way to watch what files are increasing in size in a certain directory? ie continually?
[10:21] <snowgrl373> anyone for my wireless issue?
[10:21] <cfhowlett> snowgrl373: I can help with broadcomm
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> AdvoWork:      watch ls -l
[10:21] <snowgrl373> cfhowlett, thanks, ya its a broadcom. keeps trying to connect and wont
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> i think thats right
[10:22] <snowgrl373> says network disconnected every 3 mins or so
[10:22] <cfhowlett> snowgrl373: did you install the broadcom sta driver?
[10:22] <snowgrl373> ya, through restricted drivers
[10:22] <snowgrl373> i mean additional drivers
[10:22] <cfhowlett> snowgrl373: and you're sure your wifi signal is clean and constant?
[10:22] <snowgrl373> cfhowlett, yes
[10:23] <snowgrl373> i checked other devices
[10:23] <SectorX8> Hello there? Anybody here from the security team?
[10:23] <SectorX8> Please join the security channel or pm me.
[10:23] <snowgrl373> cfhowlett, should i try removing it and reinstalling? everything looks fine
[10:24] <bazhang> SectorX8, ask here
[10:24] <SectorX8> OK, bazhang. Are you in the securty team?
[10:24] <cfhowlett> snowgrl373: thinking - is it acting up ONLY on that one network?  test with other hotspots B4 reinstalling
[10:25] <snowgrl373> cfhowlett, tried different network, same thing, wireless icon just shows as if its trying to connect
[10:25] <jdrab> hi guys, is there something like ubuntu HIG or some sort of guidelines for developing applications?
[10:25] <SectorX8> bazhang: I want to be a part in it. So I wonder how to contribute?
[10:26] <cfhowlett> snowgrl373: completely update before you reinstall...or try a manual installation.  download the STA drivers from broadcom's site.
[10:26] <Promythyus> jdrab: try this: http://developer.gnome.org/hig-book/
[10:26] <snowgrl373> cfhowlett, did a complete update and also did manual install as google suggested, forgot to mention that
[10:27] <minhus> hello
[10:27] <crede> hi
[10:27] <SectorX8> bazhang: Do you know who I can ask  for tasks, to be a member there?
[10:27] <SectorX8> Do anyone know?
[10:27] <cfhowlett> snowgrl373: grr.  ok, then, next thing I'd try would be reinstalling.
[10:27] <minhus> i have a question here. i want to run gui apps in console. i mean without installing the desktop enviroment how can i do that
[10:28] <snowgrl373> cfhowlett, reinstalling the os? isnt that a little drastic?
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> minhus: wht app?
[10:28] <cfhowlett> snowgrl373: NO NO NO - just the wifi drivers.
[10:28] <siavashserver> minhus: no way, unless they use a curses interface
[10:28] <babilen> minhus: Where should they be displayed?
[10:28] <snowgrl373> just did, checking now :p
[10:28] <minhus> so i have to install the gtk
[10:29] <snowgrl373> cfhowlett, same issue
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> minhus: or install vnc and have them use it to display
[10:29] <cfhowlett> snowgrl373: sorry, then, I can't be of help.  stay in channel and ask again...
[10:29] <minhus> lets say i have gtk  can i run apps
[10:29] <snowgrl373> its like its taking forever to connect forever
[10:29] <snowgrl373> cfhowlett, ok thanks
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> minhus: gtk is just a librayr
[10:30] <babilen> minhus: What do you want to do? If you want to run a prgram with a GUI you need to run Xorg and a suitable window manager (fluxbox, awesomewm, ...) or desktop environment (Gnome, XFCE, KDE, ...) by definition. You *might* want to run a GUI program from a remote machine and have it displayed on your local box though. In either case you need X somewhere.
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> not allapps yse the gtk libs
[10:30] <snowgrl373> anyone here to help with an odd broadcom issue? ubuntu 12.04 wireless just sits and tries to connect...
[10:31] <minhus> babilen: i want to run an app from console but i dont want to run desktop enviroment is it possible?
[10:31] <snowgrl373> cfhowlett, could it have been that when i installed the system installed a generic wireless driver of some sort and its conflicting?
[10:31] <ThinkT510> minhus: depends on the app
[10:31] <minhus> it is written in wxwidgets ThinkT510
[10:31] <ThinkT510> minhus: if it requires a gui then no
[10:32] <cfhowlett> snowgrl373: certainly possible.  actually there's one thing I just thought of.  wait one ...
[10:32] <snowgrl373> ok
[10:32] <luftikuss> How to conviently view the DocBook document /usr/src/linux-source-3.2.0/Documentation/DocBook/mtdnand conviently? See http://paste.ubuntu.com/1150382/ . Firefox: "Mit dieser XML-Datei sind anscheinend keine Style-Informationen verknüpft. Nachfolgend wird die Baum-Ansicht des Dokuments angezeigt.
[10:32] <minhus> ThinkT510: and?
[10:32] <babilen> minhus: No, that is not possible. The application can't work because it can't be displayed *anywhere*.
[10:32] <ThinkT510> minhus: and what?
[10:32] <minhus> so i have to run startx first
[10:32] <minhus> and it will load the dekstop enviroment and window manager
[10:33] <minhus> and then my gui will start
[10:33] <crede> why wont ubuntu 12.04 lts connect and install drivers with my broadcom wifi adapter? it is using my last memory stick with the belkin wifi usb stick just fine
[10:33] <snowgrl373> crede, you might want to get in my boat... im having a similar issue
[10:34] <snowgrl373> not driver issue but connection issue
[10:34] <ThinkT510> minhus: its not rocket science, if you want to run a gui app you need a gui, it really is that simple
[10:34] <minhus> oky
[10:34] <minhus> i know
[10:34] <crede> ok then
[10:34] <minhus> i will have to install a desktop enviroment to my konsole based distro
[10:34] <cfhowlett> snowgrl373: on last clean upgrade, I used the "no internet connection" method to pull the required files directly from the ISO, a little command line magic and POOF!  wifi.  didn't even need to reboot.
[10:34] <cfhowlett> http://turbolinux.org/2011/07/ubuntu-broadcom-bcm43xx-chipset-pci/
[10:34] <minhus> thank you so much ThinkT510 babilen
[10:35] <minhus> and others
[10:35] <snowgrl373> cfhowlett, taking a look...
[10:35] <luftikuss> How to conviently view the DocBook document /usr/src/linux-source-3.2.0/Documentation/DocBook/mtdnand? See http://paste.ubuntu.com/1150382/ . Firefox: "Apparently there is no style informationen associated with this document. Firefox will show the tree view."
[10:35] <babilen> minhus: You can just install Xorg (apt-get install xorg) and a small window manager such as fluxbox (http://fluxbox.org/) -- No need for a full desktop environment such as Gnome, KDE or XFCE.
[10:36] <acicula> luftikuss: check the readme file, maybe you need to build/render the documentation first?
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> minhus:  or details as to what you want to acomplish.. we may have other ideas
[10:36] <minhus> by the way . ubuntu is ok but why wont they release it on dvds . we have to install some parts after installing ubuntu.
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> minhus: 12.10 will be on dvd
[10:37] <acicula> minhus: there is a live dvd i think?
[10:37] <cfhowlett> minhus: so download the dvd version
[10:37] <cfhowlett> acicula: correct.
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> minhus:  legal reasons is also a big part of what can go on the cd
[10:37] <minhus> does dvd version have gtk gnome settings apps
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> minhus:  gnome uses gtk....
[10:37] <minhus> i want to change some of the settings
[10:38] <minhus> Dr_Willis: i know i am not talking about restricted extras
[10:38] <Kartagis> hi
[10:38] <minhus> in cd some apps dont be installed
[10:38] <luftikuss> acicula: I should build/render documentation delivered in an DocBook document? Hardly.
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> restricted = legally restricted.. so wont be on the offiicial dvd either i imagine
[10:38] <minhus> Dr_Willis: really will it be on dvd?
[10:38] <Kartagis> is there a way to query for an IP address of a subdomain in a ns which can't be reached?
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> minhus:  will what be on the dvd?
[10:39] <minhus> Dr_Willis: 12.10
[10:39] <k1l_> minhus: do you know what the fact behind the restricted extras is?
[10:39] <snowgrl373> cfhowlett, same issue
[10:39] <snowgrl373> i dont get it
[10:39] <minhus> [13:37] <Dr_Willis> minhus: 12.10 will be on dvd
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> minhus:  blog posts say so.
[10:39] <minhus> k1l_: yes i do know
[10:39] <minhus> laws
[10:39] <k1l_> minhus: no you dont
[10:39] <cfhowlett> snowgrl373: sorry, man.  officially out of my depth ...
[10:40] <k1l_> minhus: if its forbidden to ship them ootb, ubuntu cant ship them.
[10:40] <minhus> for example ubuntone package does not come with the cd you have to install it
[10:40] <minhus> i hope they will add these kinds of apps on dvd
[10:40] <ThinkT510> minhus: they can't, licence prohibits distribution
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> i imagine they will try to keep it small
[10:41] <snowgrl373> cfhowlett, lady :p
[10:41] <Kartagis> is there a way to query for an IP address of a subdomain in a ns which can't be reached? <--- sorry for repost in short time, but urgent matter
[10:41] <snowgrl373> its ok :)
[10:41] <minhus> Dr_Willis: keep small?
[10:41] <cfhowlett> snowgrl373: I stand corrected
[10:41] <minhus> why do they do that
[10:41] <minhus> ThinkT510: i know
[10:41] <snowgrl373> sudo modprobe b43 did the trick!
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> no need to put in 4gb of stuff thatpeople wont use
[10:41] <minhus> also i cant change fonts in 12.04
[10:42] <k1l_> minhus: if you know it, why do you want it tp be on a cd/dvd? that doesnt make any sense
[10:42] <snowgrl373> finally!
[10:42] <ThinkT510> minhus: then why do you hope they add it to the dvd if you know they can't?
[10:42] <minhus> i want to customise my ubuntu
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> myunity - can change font settings i belive
[10:42] <snowgrl373> minerale, how so?
[10:42] <minhus> ThinkT510: cant they add gnome-settings bla bla to the dvd?
[10:42] <minhus> they make the distro small cause they release it on a cd
[10:42] <acicula> minhus: whats the problem with downloading the package directly?
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> minhus:  we dont know what you mean by 'gnome-settings'
[10:42] <gillie-monster> okay so i have 2 laptops that have SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio. neither have sound. nothing is muted or turned down.
[10:43] <minhus> but as Dr_Willis said if 12.10 will be released on dvd there is no need to make the distro small
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> the single cd has been a design goal for ages..
[10:43] <snowgrl373> hm, it connected, now its not again, ugh
[10:43] <minhus> Dr_Willis: it is for changing fonts and themes
[10:43] <acicula> all a dvd will do is force you to download a ton of stuff you either wont need, or which will get immedeatly replaced with newer packages on installation
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> they dont want to make a 4gb iso that will be 50% useless stuff
[10:44] <gillie-monster> what about offline installations?
[10:44] <minhus> all i want to say is that linux is getting bigger
[10:44] <zykotick9> acicula: +1 (big install media makes no sense to me)
[10:44] <snowgrl373> going to restart
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> last i looked it was about a 1gb iso
[10:44] <minhus> and a single cd is not enough
[10:44] <k1l_> minhus: just download the packages you want with apt-get
[10:44] <acicula> gillie-monster: if you are in that situation you are much better off using the tools available to you with which to create a tailored installation cd/dvd with updated packages
[10:44] <gillie-monster> single cd is not enough. hell using a CD is bad for the drive, and if the drive is getting worn out, installing is a bitch n u might end up with a frankenstein when its done
[10:45] <crede_> lol
[10:45] <minhus> gillie-monster: i am agree with you
[10:45] <gillie-monster> not all systems support DVD is the idea
[10:45] <k1l_> minhus: but you can create your own cd/dvd with you favorite apps. just take  a look at remastersys
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> i dont even put optical drives in my box's
[10:46] <minhus> they must add more customising tools i know iso file will be bigger but i dont say that i will be 4gb
[10:46] <ThinkT510> !remaster | minhus
[10:46] <gillie-monster> not all systems boot from cd. not all systems boot from USB, not all systems support DVD
[10:46] <minhus> gillie-monster: it is 2012
[10:46] <gillie-monster> the idea is 1 disk that works for all
[10:46] <k1l_> minhus: and since you dont have a support questtion pls transfer the question to #ubuntu-discuss
[10:46] <acicula> gillie-monster: then those systems wont run 12.04 very well either most likely
[10:46] <minhus> i think everybody does have a pc with dvd driver
[10:47] <gillie-monster> and this is linux. it will run on anything. why throw out a computer when it would make the best firewall money can buy?
[10:47] <gillie-monster> no
[10:47] <gillie-monster> ur wrong
[10:47] <minhus> gillie-monster: can you run ubuntu 12.04 on a 256 mb ram computer
[10:47] <minhus> it cinsumes more than 512 mb
[10:47] <gillie-monster> oh and WTF is up with the one laptop per child developers?
[10:47] <minhus> comsumes*
[10:48] <minhus> there are other distros which work well on slower mahines
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> time to move it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:48] <gillie-monster> yes. i ran 12.04 on a compaq made in 1996 that had a P2 266 w/ 256 RAM
[10:48] <minhus> huh
[10:48] <minhus> well done
[10:48] <minhus> congrats
[10:49] <r0x> god bless you
[10:49] <gillie-monster> thats when i found out support for 386 n 486 got dropped..... stupid... im still upset
[10:49] <minhus> you must have deactived something
[10:49] <acicula> give this man his firesticks back
[10:49] <k1l_> !ot | gillie-monster minhus
[10:49] <minhus> gillie-monster: go and buy a ned brand computer
[10:49] <minhus> ubottu: oky i am going
[10:49] <zetheroo> something I am wondering about it slightly slower performance when I have an external monitor attached to my laptop ... is this just in my mind or is there something that would cause this?!
[10:49] <gillie-monster> the linux community has lost its way....
[10:50] <minhus> ok thank you os muhc guyz
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> its finding its way....
[10:50] <gillie-monster> how powerful does a set top box really need to be?
[10:50] <minhus> tc all
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> raspberryPi. ;)
[10:50] <ThinkT510> gillie-monster: stop the offtopic please
[10:50] <gillie-monster> your DVD player runs linux
[10:50] <acicula> zetheroo: when do you notice the difference
[10:50] <gillie-monster> k
[10:50] <gillie-monster> no
[10:50] <gillie-monster> no
[10:50] <FloodBot1> gillie-monster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:50] <DJones> gillie-monster: Can you take the offtopic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:51] <zetheroo>  acicula: sometimes when moving windows around the screen space ...
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[10:51] <k1l_> zetheroo: if its an onboard video-chip that can be caused by big resolutions (i know this from my netbook)
[10:52] <zetheroo> k1l_: the native laptop resolution is 1680 x 1050 and the external is 1920 x 1080
[10:54] <zetheroo> k1l_: and yes, it's an onboard gfx chipset
[10:54] <luftikuss> How to read a DocBook document conveniently?
[10:55] <k1l_> zetheroo: i couldnt solve the problem. but i think its caused by the too weak onboard-chip
[10:55] <zetheroo> k1l_: ok ...
[10:56] <_raven> thunderbird 14 + imap.arcor.de produces "unable to connect" since several weeks - did anything changed? limiting open connections to 1 did not help
[10:57] <Kartagis> is there a way to query for an IP address of a subdomain in a ns which can't be reached? <--- sorry for repost in short time, but urgent matter
[10:59] <the_weard> hi
[10:59] <T|ASK> HI, is the page https://errors.ubuntu.com/ broken? I can't change the timeframe :(
[10:59] <the_weard> can eny one tell me how do i add a repository that contains all the needed libs for openchange?
[11:00] <the_weard> i need libmapi
[11:01] <the_weard> and apt-get does not find it so i guess i must add the repository
[11:01] <debianichooseyou> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:01] <debianichooseyou> make sure you have the 'universe' repo there
[11:02] <hairychris> .
[11:02] <the_weard> ok ill check
[11:02] <debianichooseyou> also, package name should be 'libmapi0'
[11:02] <T|ASK> Can someone check the ubuntu errors page for me?
[11:03] <the_weard> nope there is no universe repo there
[11:03] <T|ASK> https://errors.ubuntu.com/ broken for you, too?
[11:03] <debianichooseyou> the_weard: so add it to the end of the deb line then do `apt-get update`
[11:04] <debianichooseyou> T|ASK: works here
[11:05] <the_weard> ok but isit there a source i need to add to the repository list?
[11:05] <debianichooseyou> no?
[11:05] <debianichooseyou> libmapi0 is in the main universe repo
[11:05] <nopcode> hey
[11:05] <the_weard> ok if i type apt-get libmapi0 it tells me there is no such pakage
[11:05] <nopcode> how do i get a recent subversion on 10.04?
[11:06] <the_weard> ok if i type apt-get install libmapi0 it tells me there is no such pakage
[11:06] <Flashtek> apt-cache search libmapi
[11:06] <the_weard> sorry my text was wrong but still does not resolve it
[11:06] <hairychris> nopcode: can you not apt-get it or is it too old?
[11:06] <zykotick9> !info libmapi0 | the_weard it is there...
[11:06] <nopcode> hairychris: its a very old version, 1.6
[11:07] <nopcode> oh wait
[11:07] <nopcode> 1.6 isnt that old
[11:07] <debianichooseyou> the_weard: did you do `apt-get update` ?
[11:07] <hairychris> :)
[11:07] <nopcode> mhm
[11:07] <nopcode> dont know
[11:07] <hairychris> is compiling it from source out the question
[11:07] <nopcode> is there no way to get a current packacge?
[11:07] <nopcode> no...
[11:07] <hairychris> you could check it out with svn and compile it :P
[11:08] <nopcode> %)
[11:08] <T|ASK> debianichooseyou: and you can change the timeframe, too?
[11:08] <debianichooseyou> T|ASK: yes
[11:08] <luftikuss> How to read a DocBook document conveniently?
[11:09] <T|ASK> debianichooseyou: wirred, doesn't work for me in any browser. thanks
[11:09] <debianichooseyou> T|ASK: day/month seem to hang... but year works
[11:09] <hairychris> nopcode: are you forced to use svn by someone? try and persuade them to move to git or mercurial if you are
[11:09] <hairychris> nopcode: subversion sucks hard
[11:11] <crashization> -admin
[11:12] <debianichooseyou> luftikuss: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DocBook
[11:13] <rovalent> Is anyone having issues with keyserver.ubuntu.com? I am getting timed out when trying to use apt-key. I can ping however.
[11:13] <gillie-monster> lots of timeouts on apt tonight
[11:13] <gillie-monster> try diff mirror
[11:17] <Abhijit> hi. anyone using ibus? whats the synax for space bar keyboard shortcut?
[11:17] <Guest1100101> Hi, is there any reason why df -h shows less available free space than discus? (df -h shows ~10GB less free space)
[11:18] <rapha> How do I disable, say "mysql" in Ubuntu? I don't mean "stop", I mean "disable".
[11:19] <rapha> As in, I don't want it to start automatically during boot.
[11:19] <Flashtek> rapha: rmserv
[11:19] <zykotick9> rapha: look in /etc/init/ find teh mysql service name and rename it to foo.disabled
[11:20] <zykotick9> Flashtek: is rmserv real?  and does it do upstart?
[11:20] <rapha> Flashtek: command not found
[11:21] <rapha> zykotick9: did that, thanks
[11:22] <aboudreault> damn intel driver :(. my xorg is freezing if I sleep it, then restore, then try to reneable my second monitor
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> !find rmserv
[11:22] <debianichooseyou> Guest1100101: please pastebin outputs of both df and discus
[11:26] <Guest1100101> debianichooseyou: http://pastebin.com/HVpspEtY
[11:27] <Jumper> sssss
[11:28] <ferni> Guest1100101: maybe something that filesystem has 5% reserved and df counts it but discus doesnt
[11:29]  * r0x saluta tutti e scappa via :|
[11:29] <debianichooseyou> ferni: hm my available reported bf df seems off by 3 GB too... what do you mean by 'reserved' ?
[11:32] <barneyyyy> any way to make workspace swicher like GNOME3 ? (move mouse on left corner and Switcher will appear)
[11:32] <zykotick9> debianichooseyou: when you create a filesystem a certain % is reserved for the "root" account - so if it gets filled, root can get in and fix it
[11:33] <thildred_wfh> So i'm sure you've seen this many times, but I've seen 2 dates now for 12.04.1: Aug 16th and Aug 23rd. any ideas when I can upgrade from 10.04?
[11:34] <zykotick9> !schedule | thildred_wfh Aug 23
[11:34] <ferni> debianichooseyou: man mkfs.ext4   and search for reverser-blocks or -m option
[11:34] <debianichooseyou> thildred_wfh: according to launchpad, 23rd
[11:34] <DJones> thildred_wfh: The official schedule for 04.1 is 23rd
[11:34] <thildred_wfh> cool (nuts), thanks gang!
[11:35] <thildred_wfh> i'm really excited about out of the box mtpfs
[11:36] <thildred_wfh> otherwise, i probably wouldn't upgrade at all, i really do love 10.04
[11:37] <Guest35710> hallo.. everybody
[11:37] <thildred_wfh> hallo Guest35710
[11:38] <T|ASK> btw. is Gnome 3.6 coming to 12.10?
[11:40] <zykotick9> !info gnome quantal | T|ASK you might want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:40] <Guest1100101> ferni, debianichooseyou: thanx for the hint, it's the 5% reserved free space on ext4 for root user and system services
[11:42] <diverdude> Hello. I have made this bash script: for count in {1..20} do     echo 'plot "metric.dat" using 1:4 with lines' | gnuplot -persist    sleep 1;done   which plots some data once every second. This works great. The problem however is that the windows are not closed again. is there anywhere to close a window after a period or update the same window or something similar?
[11:42] <Guest1100101> ferni, debianichooseyou: btw I am on reiserfs and noticed this on another Ubuntu with ext4 - seems to be ext4 specific...
[11:42] <debianichooseyou> same in ext3 here also
[11:43] <aboudreault> !file modprobe
[11:43] <aboudreault> !find modprobe
[11:43] <bekks> Guest1100101: The 5% root reserve is not ext4 specific. It exists on all linux filesystems.
[11:44] <bekks> Guest1100101: And for ext filesystems, you can change it using tune2fs
[11:44] <Guest1100101> bekks: tnx, found it
[11:47] <Guest1100101> bekks: my old ubuntu 9.10 with reiserfs does not have this reserved space ;-)
[11:47] <bekks> reiserfs always had it, too. :)
[11:48] <geekbri> you know what else reiserfs has? A murderer for a maintainer!
[11:48] <geekbri> Reiserfs was great back in the day, but now a days I can't see a compelling reason to use it.  Too many other file systems journal just as well now :)
[11:49] <debianichooseyou> a murderer ?
[11:49] <debianichooseyou> ROFL
[11:49] <debianichooseyou> just wiki'd that..
[11:50] <luftikuss> debianichooseyou: "The purpose of this page is to give an overview of the DocBook format." But I have put a different question. Can you see the difference?
[11:50] <Guest1100101> using reiserfs for 3 years without a single problem
[11:51] <geekbri> there is certainly nothing WRONG with reiserfs, I just don't see a compelling reason to choose it over some other FS
[11:52] <debianichooseyou> luftikuss: "6. DocBook to PDF"
[11:52] <debianichooseyou> luftikuss: "7. Editing Programs"
[11:52] <mat619> back with another issue: how the heck do I create a samba share that's wide open for everyone to access nowadays that security=share is deprecated?
[11:53] <Andy80> I know I'm OT here, but I'd like to know which mailing list or IRC channel is more appropriated to discuss this topic https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuReleaseSprint anyone can help me? Thanks :)
[11:54] <luftikuss> debianichooseyou: Are you going to tell me that I need conveting this Ubuntu document first to pdf in order to read it normally?
[11:54] <debianichooseyou> luftikuss: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DocBookEditors
[11:54] <DJones> Andy80: Maybe try in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss
[11:55] <Andy80> DJones, I will try on #ubuntu-discuss thanks :)
[11:55] <debianichooseyou> luftikuss: I personally suggest either abiword or libreoffice
[11:57] <namoamitabuddha> Can anybody suggest a free software to improve the speed of inputing?
[11:57] <namoamitabuddha> My speed of inputting is very low!
[11:57] <mat619> I've read just about 30 tutorials on samba share setup, but none has been working so far because they're outdated
[11:57] <debianichooseyou> namoamitabuddha: what input ?
[11:58] <bekks> namoamitabuddha: What do you men by "speed of inputting"?
[11:58] <namoamitabuddha> speed of typing.
[11:58] <debianichooseyou> ohhh he wants training
[11:58] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:59] <Shadow`> is there a SCP package or similar for ubuntu?
[11:59] <iceroot> mat619: right click on a folder and select "share"
[11:59] <iceroot> Shadow`: its in the package "openssh-client"
[11:59] <iceroot> Shadow`: should be installed by default
[11:59] <Shadow`> ah ye i see :P no wonder i couldnt install it, cool thanks iceroot
[11:59] <mat619> iceroot: server, no GUI.
[12:00] <luftikuss> debianichooseyou: LibreOffice Writer does this job exellently. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[12:00] <debianichooseyou> namoamitabuddha: you might want to try something like the 'junior-typing' package ( `sudo aptitude install junior-typing` )
[12:00] <iceroot> mat619: the default /etc/samba/smb.conf  shoudl hold an example for a normal share
[12:00] <namoamitabuddha> debianichooseyou: well, first aptitude search '~njunior-typing'
[12:00] <iceroot> debianichooseyou: please suggest apt-get because aptitude is no longer installed by default
[12:00] <mat619> iceroot: i know that. please reread what I asked. I'm looking for a way to create a share open for everyone, with no authentication required.
[12:01] <iceroot> mat619: its also in the smb.conf
[12:01] <Shadow`> no aptitude? :/ crazy ubuntu ppl
[12:01] <luftikuss> +c
[12:01] <iceroot> mat619: its the guest allowed = yes part
[12:01] <mat619> iceroot: this is set.
[12:01] <debianichooseyou> Shadow`++
[12:01] <namoamitabuddha> iceroot: The faculty of aptitude to solve the dependency problems is so much stronger than apt-get.
[12:01] <iceroot> Shadow`: ubuntus idea is to provide exactly one package for a need
[12:01] <debianichooseyou> namoamitabuddha++
[12:02] <ThinkT510> !aptitude | namoamitabuddha
[12:02] <iceroot> Shadow`: but the real reason is that there was no space left on the 700mb iso, because of that aptitude, vim and gimp are removed
[12:02] <iceroot> Shadow`: ah and the text from ubottu is showing another reason
[12:02] <debianichooseyou> iceroot: does ubuntu default to gnome?
[12:03] <Shadow`> ah, my 12.04 still has aptitude, luckely, and usually its prefered to stick to 1 arch anyways, no? :p
[12:03] <iceroot> debianichooseyou: ?
[12:03] <debianichooseyou> iceroot: ?
[12:03] <Shadow`> yes default gnome3
[12:03] <iceroot> debianichooseyou: default to gnome?
[12:03] <namoamitabuddha> ThinkT510: Well, mine is singlearch.
[12:03] <debianichooseyou> iceroot: yeah, default tasksel for desktop ?
[12:03] <iceroot> Shadow`: you can easily install aptitude "sudo apt-get install aptitude"
[12:03] <ThinkT510> debianichooseyou: default desktop is unity (based on gnome3)
[12:03] <iceroot> debianichooseyou: unity
[12:03] <debianichooseyou> ahh^
[12:04] <namoamitabuddha> I asked somebody from #debian and they said that apt-get && aptitude are interchangable now.
[12:04] <Shadow`> changed it again? i remember installing ubuntu desktop not to long ago (maybe a few eeks) and it had gnome3 as default ;/
[12:04] <mat619> something must be entirely wrong with my samba setup. just noticed I can't even see the share from smbtree on the local machnie.
[12:04] <debianichooseyou> debian has a Git commit to default tasksel to Xfce for the exact reason that gnome3 wouldn't fit on the 700 MB CD1 :P
[12:04] <klaask> hello, I'm struggling with setting a default gateway that is not on my local subnet. Anyone done that?
[12:04] <iceroot> Shadow`: ubuntu never had gnome3 as default
[12:04] <Shadow`> oh
[12:05] <david23400> How can i print a file using my prisnter which is connected to my laptop on lubuntu?
[12:05] <iceroot> debianichooseyou: the reason why debian removed gnome3 is not the size
[12:05] <iceroot> debianichooseyou: not the main reason
[12:05] <zetheroo> I am trying to follow this How-To (http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/php/how-to-setup-a-dedicated-web-server-for-free/) using a VM with VirtualBox, and I get to the part where I check out my IP address and test it in a browser ... but my browser times out ... my IP is 10.0.2.15
[12:05] <debianichooseyou> iceroot: uh... 1. gnome3 isn't "removed"? 2. yes it is. I read the Git commit changelog.
[12:05] <iceroot> debianichooseyou: its removed but the reason is not the size
[12:06] <debianichooseyou> http://is.gd/nijuse
[12:06] <debianichooseyou> So explain the changelog there?
[12:06] <debianichooseyou> And, where exactly are you seeing that it's "removed" ... ?
[12:06] <k1l_> !ot | iceroot debianichooseyou
[12:07] <iceroot> debianichooseyou: #debian is offtopic here
[12:08] <debianichooseyou> yeah whatever. ubuntu only exists because of debian
[12:08] <namoamitabuddha> What about GNU typist?
[12:09] <thildred_wfh> zetheroo, what is the ipaddress of your vm?
[12:09] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: ifconfig tells me it's 10.0.2.15
[12:10] <thildred_wfh> and have you either opened port 80 in iptables or disabled iptables on the vm?
[12:10] <thildred_wfh> zetheroo,
[12:11] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: have not done anything ... just installed Ubuntu Server 12.04 fresh with options OpenSSH and LAMP selected during setup. Then I did a system update ... that's all
[12:11] <thildred_wfh> zetheroo, just for the record, you did all that on a vm, right?
[12:11] <thildred_wfh> running on some other operating system
[12:12] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: yes, on the VM ... which is running on an Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 host via VirtualBox
[12:13] <stevecam> zetheroo, could you summarise the problem you are having again, i haven't seen the history
[12:13] <thildred_wfh> ok, zetheroo, easiest thing to do is on the vm, do a sudo ufw disable
[12:13] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: what will that do?
[12:13] <thildred_wfh> and then try opening the page from your host (the desktop machine) again.
[12:13] <thildred_wfh> that will turn off
[12:13] <thildred_wfh> the firewall on the vm
[12:13] <thildred_wfh> if you run it on the vm
[12:14] <thildred_wfh> and i think zetheroo that you are trying to open that url (the ipadress of your vm) from the host (desktop)
[12:14] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: yes, that is what I am trying to do
[12:14] <thildred_wfh> host = base computer hosting vms, guest = virtual machine
[12:14] <thildred_wfh> yeah
[12:14] <thildred_wfh> so try that ufw disable
[12:14] <thildred_wfh> on the vm
[12:15] <thildred_wfh> and then try opening the url on your host pc (desktop)
[12:15] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: ok will try that now ...
[12:16] <rainbowwarrior2> hello , can anyone recommend me some good software for a samsung galaxy s 3 on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS please ?
[12:16] <thildred_wfh> rainbowwarrior2, gmtp
[12:16] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: I had just booted up the VM just now and it is saying "Waiting for network configuration ... "
[12:16] <thildred_wfh> might take a second
[12:17] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: now it says "Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration ..."
[12:17] <rainbowwarrior2> ok thank you thildred_wfh
[12:17] <acicula> rainbowwarrior2: software to do what?
[12:17] <thildred_wfh> np
[12:17] <thildred_wfh> rainbowwarrior2,
[12:17] <acicula> rainbowwarrior2: if you mean storage/modem access, think that should just work without any extra software
[12:18] <rainbowwarrior2> acicula,  so i can save contacts, put mp3's and games etc on my phone
[12:18] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: "Booting up computer without complete network configuration ..."
[12:18] <bekor> anyone here using ultimate edition 3.4 or know a channel for it?
[12:18] <thildred_wfh> zetheroo, your host pc usually works as a dhcp server for the guests (virtual machines) that run on it.
[12:18] <thildred_wfh> zetheroo, thats ok
[12:18] <thildred_wfh> zetheroo, so long as it boots, we can see whats up with networking when you've logged in
[12:18] <acicula> rainbowwarrior2: you can just put the device in usb mode to transfer files, dunno about syncing the phone with the pc though
[12:19] <acicula> i just use google contacts for that
[12:19] <rainbowwarrior2> ok thank you acicula
[12:21] <acicula> rainbowwarrior2: you probably dont have to use google contacts to do it though, its just convenient in my case
[12:22] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: now ifconfig does not even show a network device but only "lo"
[12:22] <thildred_wfh> well, if you try ifconfig -a
[12:22] <thildred_wfh> zetheroo,
[12:22] <thildred_wfh> you'll see more NICs
[12:23] <thildred_wfh> and if you take the results of that zetheroo and run dhclient <interfacename>
[12:23] <thildred_wfh> you may get an IP address
[12:23] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: ok, with that I can see eth1 but it's got no ip adress info
[12:23] <thildred_wfh> zetheroo, try dhclient eth1
[12:24] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: tried that - RTNETLINK answers: Operation not permitted
[12:24] <thildred_wfh> sudo dhclient eth1
[12:24] <nb-ben> meh been oging over like 20 games
[12:24] <nb-ben> only decent ones are FPS
[12:24] <nb-ben> and I suppose HoN
[12:26] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: sudo dhclient eth1  ............ returns nothing
[12:26] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: I think my network setting on the VM might be wrong
[12:27] <acicula> nb-ben: ?
[12:27] <thildred_wfh> that could be zetheroo, what do you have it set to?
[12:27] <thildred_wfh> from the perspective of virtual box?
[12:28] <nb-ben> acicula, native linux games
[12:28] <acicula> nb-ben: yeah there are some. there is this though http://steamforlinux.com/
[12:29] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: I just shut down the VM and set the network settings to  :   PCnet-FAST III (NAT)
[12:29] <thildred_wfh> are you gonna fire it up again and see what happens?
[12:30] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: have already ... checking now ...
[12:30] <nb-ben> acicula, non-free
[12:30] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: no change :(
[12:31] <thildred_wfh> zetheroo, but it was working before? your virtual machine got an ipaddress before?
[12:31] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: hang on ... when I do ifconfig -a I get eth1 with an IP address now
[12:31] <acicula> nb-ben: ah yeah then there isnt much, westeroth or openttd arent to bad if you like that sort of game
[12:31] <thildred_wfh> hey
[12:31] <thildred_wfh> !
[12:31] <thildred_wfh> thats good
[12:31] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: IP address is 10.0.2.15
[12:31] <thildred_wfh> zetheroo,
[12:31] <zetheroo> same as before
[12:31] <thildred_wfh> first things first
[12:31] <thildred_wfh> on your host machine, can you open a terminal and ping that ipaddress zetheroo
[12:32] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: but how could it ping that address when my local lan is on 192.168.x.x ?
[12:32] <thildred_wfh> did you try it?
[12:32] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: trying now ...
[12:32] <thildred_wfh> zetheroo, your host machine acts as  a dhcp server for vms running on it
[12:33] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: not getting any feedback from ping
[12:33] <TJ-> zetheroo: All operating systems maintain a "routing table" which tells them how to direct network packets from on sub-network to another, and when no rules match, which interface provides a 'default route' (usually the Internet router)
[12:34] <TJ-> zetheroo: To check the routing table do "ip route show"
[12:34] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh:  98 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 97766ms
[12:34] <thildred_wfh> thats weird zetheroo, if you do ifconfig -a on the host, do you see any ipaddress that look like 10.something?
[12:35] <zetheroo> TJ-:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1150546/
[12:35] <eyepatch> I tried to replace xscreensaver with gnome-screensaver (I wanted to add my own and the instructions were for the latter) but gnome-screensaver-preferences didn't come with the package.
[12:35] <TJ-> zetheroo: thildred_wfh There is no host route for the 10.0.2.0/24 subnet
[12:35] <nb-ben> zetheroo, it's not uncommon for machines to have ICMP packets disabled by default (those packets are used for ping) in order to prevent packet-flooding attacks from multituding (the machine sends equal size response and a 5mbit attack becomes 10mbit)
[12:35] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1150547/
[12:36] <nb-ben> multiplying *
[12:36] <TJ-> zetheroo: On the host, what hypervisor are you using? Is it KVM managed by "Virtual Machine Manager" ?
[12:36] <thildred_wfh> TJ-, its virtual box
[12:37] <zetheroo> TJ-: Virtual Box
[12:37] <zetheroo> ;)
[12:37] <TJ-> thildred_wfh: thanks :) I came in late
[12:37] <thildred_wfh> np
[12:37] <thildred_wfh> zetheroo, can you do the sudo ufw disable on the vm, and try that again?
[12:37] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: ok
[12:38] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: ok Firewall disabled
[12:38] <TJ-> zetheroo: thildred_wfh I don't use VB, but it would seem to me it must have an option to enable networking via NAT and that should add the necessary IP to the vboxnet0 interface, or bridge it, and adjust the routing table
[12:38] <thildred_wfh> yeah, thats been done TJ-
[12:38] <thildred_wfh> i think
[12:38] <thildred_wfh> its already set to NAT from the virtual box side
[12:38] <thildred_wfh> unless thats not what you mean
[12:38] <TJ-> thildred_wfh: well there's no IP for the vboxnet0 i/f and it isn't bridged either... so VB isn't doing something
[12:39] <TJ-> thildred_wfh: It can't NAT if it has no IP on the host side
[12:39] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: after disabling there is still no difference with any of the previous commands/actions
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> thildred_wfh  just entered, havent followed... set NAT to bridged in your VB settings, to make a bridge to your existing network
[12:40] <thildred_wfh> zetheroo, ^^
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> set = c hange
[12:40] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: does a proxy need to be setup from VB side?
[12:40] <zetheroo> ok will shut the VM down and change that
[12:40] <thildred_wfh> MonkeyDust, i would have thought NAT was fine for getting set up?
[12:40] <thildred_wfh> bridged is ideal
[12:40] <thildred_wfh> but not required
[12:41] <thildred_wfh> nat or bridged you should have ping between guest and host, no?
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> thildred_wfh  use the one that works
[12:41] <zetheroo> firing the VM back up ....
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> is there a way to force an old laptop (that have no boot device options) to install ubuntu with usb anyway?
[12:41] <TJ-> "bridged" means its all one ethernet segment ... no sub-net to route between
[12:43] <zetheroo> the VM always gets stalled at this point of "Waiting for network configuration..."
[12:43] <thildred_wfh> zetheroo, that seems strange. i am kind of tapped out though.
[12:44] <TJ-> zetheroo: thildred_wfh: regarding the host having no IP I see this in the VB docs: "The interface is configured when a VM set to use Host-Only. Until such a VM is started, the interface is not configured."
[12:44] <zetheroo> ok, VM finished booting ... should I disable the firewall again?
[12:44] <thildred_wfh> sure
[12:44] <thildred_wfh> and try your pings
[12:45] <thildred_wfh> and see if ifconfig gives anything on both host and guest
[12:45] <thildred_wfh> basically you want to see that they both have an ipaddress on the same subnet
[12:45] <TJ-> zetheroo: thildred_wfh: and the docs go on to say that the host-side isn't brought up until something on the guest tries to use the network
[12:45] <Bigbird> hello
[12:45] <thildred_wfh> docs?
[12:45] <thildred_wfh> ;)
[12:45] <zetheroo> ifconfig on the VM shows no ip address for eth1
[12:45] <subdesign> hi, after my system self-upgraded to 3.0.0.24 my boot halts. previous version boots. what could be the prob?
[12:47] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: pinging from the host is unsuccessful ...
[12:47] <thildred_wfh> shucks. zetheroo, based on what you've said, it sounds like a problem with virtual box networking
[12:47] <thildred_wfh> that virtualboxnetwork
[12:47] <thildred_wfh> or whatever should have an ipaddress
[12:47] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: yeah - I am thinking that too
[12:47] <thildred_wfh> hold on
[12:48] <thildred_wfh> fireing up virtual box
[12:48] <Bigbird> subdesign: can you describe it mor points?
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> subdesign:can you try a clean install?
[12:48] <sambagirl> is there an openoffice channel?
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> subdesign  the most recent kernel is -29 -- what ubuntu version do you have?
[12:49] <ThinkT510> !alis | sambagirl
[12:49] <Bigbird> if boot error , maybe you can look up in the dmesg
[12:49] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: just be clear... in Vbox settings for this VM I have Adapter 1 enabled with
[12:49] <zetheroo> Attached to: Bridged
[12:49] <zetheroo> Name: wlan1
[12:49] <zetheroo>  
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> sambagirl  #libreoffice
[12:49] <zetheroo> oops .. :P
[12:49] <sambagirl> ahh thanks
[12:49] <sambagirl> monkeydust
[12:49] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: and then there is an "Advanced" section ..
[12:49] <subdesign> Bigbird, when the five point comes in boot sequence, there halts the system
[12:49] <Bubbelgum> what window manager do u ppl run in Ubuntu?
[12:50] <subdesign> MonkeyDust, 29? sorry i use 11.10
[12:50] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: Adapter type is PCnet-FAST III (Am79C973)
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Bubbelgum
[12:50] <ThinkT510> Bubbelgum: depends what desktop they have installed, unity uses compiz by default
[12:51] <subdesign> lotuspsychje, im devving coutinously havent time to reinstall :/
[12:51] <Bubbelgum> well the problem i have is that compiz does crasch when exiting Minecraft
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> subdesign:any error on the halt point?
[12:51] <subdesign> no
[12:51] <lewis> does anyone else have high Compiz memory usage?
[12:51] <thildred_wfh> what ubuntu are you running zetheroo ? TJ- MonkeyDust maybe you guys can correct me, but i didn't think bridging and wlan played nice together
[12:51] <TJ-> subdesign: To boot into the previous kernel, when the PC starts and you see the BIOS screen hold down the SHIFT key which will allow you to enter the GRUB boot menu. Choose "Previous operating systems" then in the resulting menu, choose the previous kernel version
[12:51] <ThinkT510> !info linux-generic oneiric | subdesign
[12:51] <Bubbelgum> thays why o wounder, what other ppl running
[12:52] <subdesign> TJ- i did that so im here :)
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> thildred_wfh  ah, wlan, missed that part
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> subdesign:did you enable wifi during install proces?
[12:52] <zetheroo>  thildred_wfh: I am running Ubuntu 12.04 on the Host and on the VM guest
[12:52] <TJ-> thildred_wfh: bridging is an ethernet thing. The only reason it is not so optimal for WiFi is the number of packets it can cause to be sent across the WiFi that aren't necessary
[12:52] <ojii> so I try to umount a disk but it fails because it's busy, but neither lsof nor fuser show anything for that disk, what can I do?
[12:52] <lewis> Compiz (on my system) is using 250mb of RAM; is this a memory leak?
[12:52] <TJ-> subdesign: So it still hangs up using a previous kernel version?
[12:52] <AdvoWork> what exactly would sudo -i -u postgres psql do? is it simply: allow postgres user to run psql?
[12:52] <subdesign> yes
[12:52] <acicula> lewis: if it is it would keep growing
[12:53] <subdesign> not the pervious, the most current hangs up
[12:53] <TJ-> ojii: You're probably got a terminal session or program that has changed-directory (cd) and is inside the mount point
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> subdesign:during install you can choose to see install details, maybe it can help you see the freeze part?
[12:53] <lewis> I submitted a bug report, but I was told to submit the report to Nvidia instead ;  is this information correct?
[12:53] <ojii> TJ-, why wouldn't fuser/lsof show that?
[12:53] <subdesign> lotuspsychje, yes i continue so booting text mode it hang on part: checking battery status
[12:53] <subdesign> or same
[12:54] <acicula> lewis: ask whoever told you to submit the bugreport to nvidia?
[12:54] <Bigbird> god knows what happened .Just try again ,maybe it will work .I f error again,maybe is the cpu bugs
[12:54] <TJ-> subdesign: OK, so boot into the previous version that works then immediately examine the log files. /var/log/kern.log /var/log/syslog and also, from the last boot /var/log/dmesg.1
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> subdesign:i had that once for upgrade to precise too, trying few times again solved it
[12:55] <subdesign> ok TJ- thx noting ..
[12:55] <lewis> I got an email from someone when I submitted a bug report and the email stated I had to submit instead to NVIDIA; I though the drivers were closed source?
[12:55] <Bigbird> subdesign: which cpu arch you choosed ?
[12:55] <subdesign> lotuspsychje, really? hmm
[12:55] <thildred_wfh> ok. so zetheroo, i think you do need bridging. TJ- MonkeyDust, you need to set up bridging properly for it to work, right?
[12:55] <thildred_wfh> like you can't just turn it on
[12:55] <thildred_wfh> NetworkManager and bridging dont work together
[12:55] <thildred_wfh> (i think)
[12:55] <TJ-> subdesign: Some of the logs will, obviously, most recently contain messages from the *good* boot so you'll have to look at the timestamps and scroll back to the time it failed.  From the GUI use "Log file viewer"
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> thildred_wfh  not sure with wlan, bridged works out of the box with ethernet
[12:56] <Bigbird> x86_64 have a bug on install time for amd cpu
[12:56] <ThinkT510> lewis: nvidia drivers are closed source, doesn't mean they don't want bug reports
[12:56] <TJ-> thildred_wfh: I'll try it here I've just installed VB
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> subdesign:maybe this can help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1896915
[12:56] <ThinkT510> lewis: just means that nvidia are the only ones who can fix it
[12:56] <thildred_wfh> sick
[12:56] <chuyizi> 芻邑子
[12:56] <thildred_wfh> zetheroo, meet TJ-
[12:56] <lewis> Okay, do I just email Nvidia or do they have a 'git' style bug report site?
[12:56] <subdesign> TJ- nice suggestion, checking
[12:56] <thildred_wfh> :)
[12:56] <zetheroo> thildred_wfh: ha - thanks ;)
[12:56] <ThinkT510> lewis: no idea sorry
[12:56] <Bigbird> chuyizi : hello
[12:57] <the4tress> everytime i add this to my sshd_config i can't log in via ssh any more. im trying to setup an sftp server using OpenSSH and all the tutorials say this is part of the process: http://pastie.org/4521279
[12:57] <TJ-> thildred_wfh: well I would - but the VB install fails because I'm running on kernel v3.5
[12:57] <thildred_wfh> shoot
[12:57] <subdesign> lotuspsychje, good fintind man, thanks
[12:57] <subdesign> *finding
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> subdesign:got an ati card inside?
[12:57] <chuyizi> #deepin
[12:57] <subdesign> yes as i remember it was an nvidia update too
[12:58] <TJ-> thildred_wfh: I'll fix my own bug first :p it's a failed-to-build-from-source issue with the VB DKMS kernel module
[12:58] <thildred_wfh> i'm fresh out of juice here. except maybe sudo apt-get install boxes
[12:58] <lewis> Here's the bug report I submitted to the upstream kernel team: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45721
[12:58] <Bigbird> #ubuntu-cn
[12:59] <zetheroo>  TJ-: thildred_wfh: My current network settings http://tinypic.com/r/2d0xcmq/6
[12:59] <compdoc> the4tress, I use sftp without having to make any changes to openssh-server conf files
[12:59] <Pessimist> Can someone link me to a good tutorial for newbies in git?
[12:59] <ThinkT510> !git
[12:59] <the4tress> companion, how did you do it? these are some of my configs: http://pastie.org/4521071
[12:59] <companion> the4tress, buzz off highlight some one sle
[12:59] <the4tress> compdoc, how did you do it? these are some of my configs: http://pastie.org/4521071
[12:59] <Pessimist> lewis, it looks like a memory leak. Try reporting it to compiz bugzilla
[13:00] <the4tress> companion, sorry, sent to the wrong person
[13:00] <lewis> Pessimist, will do.
[13:00] <companion> the4tress, np just bit pissed off atm -.-
[13:00] <ThinkT510> !language | companion
[13:01] <bieb> how do I check in apt-get to see if a package is available without installing it?
[13:01] <Pessimist> lewis, https://launchpad.net/compiz
[13:02] <compdoc> the4tress, maybe I dont understand what youre trying to do, but I use an sftp client to transfer files as soon as I install openssh-server.
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> bieb: use apt-cache search packagename
[13:02] <lewis> Pessimist, should I just copy and paste the bug report. I can also try and valigirid on compiz.
[13:02] <the4tress> compdoc, oh, i want them locked down to their home directory, i dont want them to access any other folders
[13:02] <compdoc> the4tress, I see
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> bieb: or !info packagename in channel here
[13:03] <ksinkar> hey guys I am not able to start posgresql 9.1 on my ubuntu
[13:03] <bieb> lotuspsychje: thanks.. can I use a wild card to see what packages with the same name exist? ie java* would that give me java_5.0, java_6.0 etc?
[13:04] <ksinkar> sudo service postgres status returns nothing
[13:04] <lewis> Okay, here's my compiz bug report, I'll try and get some more crash reports in later today. https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1037561
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> bieb: it will show all kinda packagenames revelant to your search
[13:04] <bieb> lotuspsychje: thanks!
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> and relevant too
[13:04] <Pessimist> lewis, yeah. You can also try emailing nvidia... a quick search tells me that there is no bug tracker for nvidia dirvers.
[13:04] <Pessimist> drivers*
[13:04] <denys_> Cannot watch videos.Pls help
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> denys_:did you try vlc player?
[13:06] <lewis> Pessimist, maybe. I'd think they wouldn't really care about a stray bug report.
[13:06] <kexwork> denys_: you need to provide some more information for anyone to be able to help..
[13:07] <Padou> Hi there, i got a installation issue with server 12.04 x86. Nothing happens after hostname set.
[13:08] <ThinkT510> !hostname | Padou
[13:08] <monkfish> HELP! I need to upgrade my kernel to 3.3.6 (I'm on 12.04 32bit) because apparently it's the fix to the freeze ups experienced by Ivy Bridge processors, but I get a plethora of issues when I booted into it, advice?
[13:08] <ekarlso> anyone here got experience with flashcache ?
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso:whats your purpose?
[13:09] <ThinkT510> monkfish: we can't support your kernel
[13:10] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje: speed up a virtualization box
[13:10] <monkfish> ThinkPad, dang.
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> ekarlrso: i think there might be better tricks to speed up virtual machines then flash speedup
[13:11] <gr72> can someone help me with adding my Qubes boot into the Ubnuntu grub.cfg?
[13:11] <gr72> http://fpaste.org/77bg/
[13:12] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje: like ?
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> ekarlrso:if its a dedi virtualbox, maybe an ssd drive would be interesting, and install the vm on it
[13:12] <gr72> The top is the loading sequence for Qubes and underneath the hashtags is the Ubuntu grub.cfg
[13:12] <ThinkT510> gr72: you're not meant to edit grub.cfg directly
[13:12] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje: that's expensive ;p
[13:12] <ekarlso> what's bad about using flashcache for it ?
[13:13] <denys_> I tried, but theres an error
[13:13] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso:there are pretty cheap ssd's these days, nothing wrong with cache
[13:13] <compdoc> you should put the VM images on a seperate drive than the host, if you want speed
[13:13] <gr72> I wouldn't have to if it worked when Ubuntu saw that it was a linux System.
[13:13] <ekarlso> compdoc: pardon ?
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso:or maybe html5 as flash alternative
[13:14] <ThinkT510> gr72: you're not meant to edit it directly, the files you edit are in /etc/grub.d/ (when you run sudo update-grub it replaces your grub.cfg)
[13:14] <ekarlso> ekarlso: eh, html5 ??? what does that have to do with a flashcache ?
[13:14] <compdoc> ekarlso, do you store the VM image on the host's boot drive?
[13:14] <ekarlso> compdoc: lvm on mdraid 5 3*2tb
[13:15] <compdoc> ekarlso, and the host boots from that?
[13:15] <thildred_wfh> zetheroo, i gotta go to bed
[13:15] <ekarlso> like wth
[13:15] <ekarlso> 256 gb ssd for 1300 NOK
[13:15] <ekarlso> compdoc: nope
[13:15] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: he isn't talking about flash (the browser plugin)
[13:16] <thildred_wfh> good luck zetheroo TJ-
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: yeah makes sense, there are tricks to speed up web flash too
[13:17] <gr72> ThinkT510: Ohh well didn't know that, but O.k. THe grub isn't booting to My Qubes OS partition.
[13:18] <the4tress> how can i see what group a user is in?
[13:18] <ThinkT510> gr72: looks like qubes is using grub legacy
[13:18] <ThinkT510> the4tress: id
[13:19] <gr72> ThinkT510: O.k. Thanks, got any ways that I could translate that into grub/grub2?
[13:19] <ekarlso> compdoc: what things can I do to speedup ?
[13:20] <zykotick9> the4tress: if you are logged in as that user "groups" works
[13:20] <luftikuss>  /usr/src/linux-source-3.2.0/Documentation/DocBook/Makefile: "This makefile is used to generate the kernel documentation,
[13:20] <ekarlso> the issue is that say when I install a vm the IO wait goes through the roof
[13:20] <luftikuss> This makefile is used to generate the kernel documentation,  primarily based on in-line comments in various source files
[13:21] <Kartagis> my computer freezes when I leave it on for the weekend and I suspect it's the nvidia card. how can I fix it?
[13:21] <ThinkT510> gr72: no idea sorry
[13:21] <bekks> Kartagis: First, you gotta know why it is freezing. Did you check the logs in /var/log/ yet?
[13:21] <luftikuss> This makefile is used to generate the kernel documentation,  primarily based on in-line comments in various source files
[13:21] <Kartagis> bekks: I've never been able to
[13:22] <Kartagis> because I have to reboot it
[13:22] <TJ-> zetheroo: any progress? I've just fixed up the VBox kernel module and its building for Linux 3.5 ... I should be able to replicate your scenario soon
[13:22] <gr72> ThinkT510: O.k. I'll keep googling. Thanks.
[13:22] <bekks> Kartagis: ??
[13:22] <bekks> Kartagis: you dont have to reboot for changing the vm settings for the network.
[13:22] <bekks> Kartagis: Sorry, mixed it up with someone else.
[13:22] <bekks> Kartagis: Never been able to... why?
[13:23] <zetheroo> TJ-: on the #vbox channel I am being told that bridging with wlan won't work :(
[13:23] <Kartagis> bekks: I have to reboot it because it freezes
[13:23] <TJ-> zetheroo: really? did they give a reason?
[13:23] <bekks> Kartagis: And what is keeping from looking into /var/log after rebooting?
[13:23] <zetheroo> TJ-: not quite
[13:24] <TJ-> zetheroo: I'll read up on that aspect now. I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't
[13:24] <Kartagis> bekks: next time I'll do that
[13:24] <ekarlso> compdoc: ?
[13:25] <TJ-> zetheroo: OK, I can start VBox now
[13:25] <zetheroo> TJ-: bekks is the one chatting with me in #vbox :)
[13:25] <zetheroo> he seems to be in here too
[13:27] <evenflow> hihi, connected a usb 16gb to my ubuntu, tail /var/log/messages shows there's a new high speed usb device using ehci_hcd and address 11, however i am unable to see it under lsusb or anywhere else for this matter, can someone assist?
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:what format is the hd drive?
[13:28] <evenflow> i dont know, i would like to erase everything on it
[13:28] <evenflow> and reformat if possible
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:can you see it with gparted or something?
[13:28] <evenflow> lotuspsychje, downloading gparted right now
[13:28] <evenflow> will tell you in a secv
[13:29] <evenflow> lotuspsychje, nope, cant see it under gparted
[13:30] <Andek1980> hi
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:what was last Os to see the drive?
[13:30] <evenflow> windows
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:7?
[13:30] <evenflow> most likely yes
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> !ntfs | evenflow
[13:31] <evenflow> it belongs to one of our IT guys
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> maybe try installing this one
[13:31] <evenflow> i installed it
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[13:31] <Andek1980> how can I do registration, I trying but I cant received mail to finish registration process
[13:31] <evenflow> i have ntfs-3g already
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> strange
[13:31] <evenflow> maybe im not doing it right, there's ntfs-3g.probe, which returns nothing
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:what kind of brand is the hd
[13:32] <evenflow> sandisk
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:1 or 2 usb split cable power suply or adapter power?
[13:32] <SaCruM> One question, is there a way to make the ubuntu unity desktop wall, two different desktops? For exemple, if i have a folder opened on my first desktop, if i change to desktop 2, that folder will appear minimized, is there a way to make it not appear at all? Making two completly different desktops?
[13:32] <evenflow> sandisk ultra backup 16GB sdcz40-015G
[13:33] <evenflow> lotuspsychje , i dont understand the question :)
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:thats a regular usb stick then?
[13:33] <evenflow> yea
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> okay
[13:33] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:nothing happens when you plug it in?
[13:33] <evenflow> it shows the following line on /var/log/messages:Aug 16 15:15:37 flipbox kernel: [98590.636093] usb 2-1.4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 11
[13:34] <the4tress> every time i try to connect to my ssh server for sftp i get Connection Refused
[13:34] <evenflow> and thats it
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:some sandisk usb sticks might require a little twitch to work (make the light work) inside the usb
[13:34] <evenflow> the4tress, use scp instead
[13:34] <the4tress> but i only get that after i add this to sshd_config http://pastie.org/4521279
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | evenflow
[13:34] <evenflow> lotuspsychje, hmmm, im not sure what to do
[13:34] <lotuspsychje> can you try this one
[13:35] <evenflow> ok, is it in the repos?
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:does the usb stick light up red?
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:yes, sudo apt-get install testdisk
[13:35] <the4tress> evenflow, it doesn't matter. even after i add this to sshd_config (http://pastie.org/4521279) i cant even ssh in to the box
[13:35] <evenflow> lotuspsychje, nope, no red lighty
[13:35] <the4tress> evenflow, im trying to lock the user to just their home directory
[13:35] <ekarlso> lotuspsychje: got a clue on getting performance ?
[13:36] <the4tress> evenflow, if i dont add those lines to sshd_config then i can sftp in just fine, but the user can also browse outside their home folder
[13:36] <evenflow> ok installed testdisk
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> evenflow: first get the light to work, otherwise it will not mount in ubuntu(broke or little shake the usb until light works)
[13:36] <evenflow> ok trying
[13:37] <TJ-> zetheroo: I found the 'limitation' and it won't affect you. VBox says " functionality is limited when using wireless interfaces for bridged networking. Currently, VirtualBox supports only IPv4 over wireless. For other protocols such as IPv6 and IPX, you must choose a wired interface" - but you are not using IPX or IPv6 so you're OK
[13:38] <kristenbb> How can I toggle a window to fullscreen in 12.04 ? I've tried editting the shortcut in settings/keyboard/shortcut/window/toggle fullscreen or in compiz, but the shortcut doesn't work in either case. With another computer, on 12.04, the same shortcut works. I don't understand, is this a bug ?
[13:38] <evenflow> nope, not seeing it in testdisk either
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> ekarlso:as suggested like before, the hd that had virtualbox installed must be fast
[13:38] <evenflow> haha, okok
[13:38] <TJ-> zetheroo: Which release, architecture, and flavour are you trying to install? Is it Precise, amd64,  Desktop?
[13:38] <evenflow> i plugged it from the back and now it had a red light
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:cool
[13:39] <evenflow> weird, maybe its usb3 only?
[13:39] <Alxxy> Does anyone know how I can check if my ubuntu computer is "scanning the network for open ports"?
[13:39] <evenflow> very weird
[13:39] <evenflow> thank you lotuspsychje
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:no its just that sandisk is a little itchy showing up inside an usb slot
[13:39] <evenflow> but it shows as read only
[13:40] <evenflow> ahh cool testdisk can pass this
[13:40] <evenflow> awesome
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:format, or get data back :p
[13:40] <zetheroo> TJ-: Ubuntu 12.04 Server 64bit
[13:40] <TJ-> zetheroo: OK, fetching the same image
[13:41] <evenflow> lotuspsychje, format through testdisk
[13:41] <evenflow> ?
[13:41] <subdesign> re, so I have problem with X. nvidia drivers. if I reinstall it affects my working kernel version?
[13:41] <kristenbb> does someone know why the toggle fullscreen shortcut doesn't work in some cases ?
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:get data back with testdisk, format with gparted, ubuntu default disk tools
[13:42] <TJ-> kristenbb: toogle full-screen in which application?
[13:42] <evenflow> ok ill try
[13:42] <kristenbb> TJ-: in no specific application, just in any application. Most of them should allow that, there's a system shortcut for that.
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:after installing testdisk, you can can recover data with photorec, best data recovery ever
[13:43] <kristenbb> TJ-: it's in system configuration->keyboard->shortcuts->window->toggle fullscreen
[13:43] <kristenbb> (for 12.04)
[13:44] <kristenbb> I have this shortcut working for one computer, and yet the very same shortcut doesn't work for the very same application on another computer, both of which run ubuntu 12.04
[13:44] <kristenbb> I would like to know what could prevent this shortcut from working.
[13:45] <evenflow> lotuspsychje , i dont want to recover the data, just delete everything but it tells me its write protected
[13:45] <bharath> I am using ubuntu 11.10 , it is crashing while I am copying a file from removable storage device to hard disk
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:first unmount the drive, then format as your wishes
[13:46] <TJ-> kristenbb: It's disabled on my Precise install. I don't think anything responds to the event.
[13:46] <evenflow> it is not mounted
[13:46] <jr> server i brasil
[13:46] <kristenbb> TJ-: well I have this working on one computer
[13:46] <TJ-> kristenbb: If you hold down the Super key (often the Windows key) you'll get a menu of available key shortcuts
[13:46] <jr> *in
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:can you read its content?
[13:46] <jr> hello
[13:46] <zetheroo> TJ-: are you also using only a wlan connection on your host machine?
[13:46] <TJ-> kristenbb: Same version of Ubuntu on the other PC?
[13:47] <evenflow> yea
[13:47] <kristenbb> TJ-: yes you're right there's no default shortcut assigned to it, but you can assign one. I did so. And it worked on one pc, not on the other.
[13:47] <TJ-> zetheroo: Yes, I can do that. I have three (2 wired and 1 wireless)
[13:47] <evenflow> i just used fdisk with /dev/sdb and cleared the partitions on it
[13:47] <kristenbb> TJ-: yes both 12.04 lts x64 desktop edition.
[13:47] <zetheroo> TJ-: ok, cause I cannot plug into an ethernet here ... too far from the router
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> try sudo gparted on it evenflow
[13:47] <evenflow> ok
[13:47] <kristenbb> TJ-: one is a laptop (the one that doesn't work).
[13:47] <TJ-> kristenbb: Then something else has probably bound to the same keypress first... that used to be an issue with older gnome installations... trying to find out what was grabbing the keypress first
[13:47] <chuyizi> :-(|)
[13:48] <evenflow> this is what i get with gparted
[13:48] <evenflow> Unable to open /dev/sdb read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/sdb has been opened read-only.
[13:48] <kristenbb> TJ-: and also, one is using 2d, the other 3d
[13:48] <TJ-> zetheroo: I'm sure I can figure it out, once I've got the ISO downloaded
[13:48] <zetheroo> TJ-: thanks!!
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:are you not logged in as root on the system?
[13:48] <TJ-> kristenbb: and which one won't do full-screen? 3D ?
[13:48] <evenflow> i am
[13:48] <kristenbb> TJ-: yes
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:did it have special encryption software on it (windows)?
[13:49] <kristenbb> TJ-: the laptop, with unity 3d, doesn't do fullscreen.
[13:49] <acerme> how to lang
[13:49] <bhavesh> aw my theme change automatically while I was watching youtube video
[13:49] <namoamitabuddha> evenflow: You need to erase the hard disk. ARE YOU SURE?
[13:49] <acerme> how to land as root?
[13:49] <namoamitabuddha> evenflow: ANY DATA WILL VANISH SOON!
[13:49] <bhavesh> oh looks like I hit a wrong button :)
[13:49] <evenflow> lol
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> keep it to topic guys
[13:50] <evenflow> lotuspsychje, not sure
[13:50] <kristenbb> TJ-: ok as a matter of fact this is the problem, I've just tested using ubuntu 2d with the laptop, and it works
[13:50] <evenflow> i was able to make changes with fdisk
[13:50] <namoamitabuddha> evenflow: Well. Are you booting the liveCD?
[13:50] <kristenbb> TJ-: so my question now is
[13:50] <evenflow> deleted all partitions, created a new one
[13:50] <evenflow> namoamitabuddha, wtf?
[13:50] <kristenbb> TJ-: how to enable 'toggle fullscreen' on ubuntu 3D?
[13:50] <namoamitabuddha> evenflow: ?
[13:50] <P4NCake> Oh, hello guys.
[13:51] <namoamitabuddha> evenflow: Are you booting the LiveCD or the system on your hard disk?
[13:51] <TJ-> kristenbb: My bet is, unity disables full-screen because of conflicts within compiz... I've found bugs about that already
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:can try sudo testdisk and wipe from there
[13:51] <P4NCake> So I want a portable USB, should I install buntu to it, or should I just use live cd?
[13:51] <P4NCake> If I use live CD how do I allow it space??
[13:51] <P4NCake> Thanks.
[13:51] <namoamitabuddha> evenflow: O, SORRY.
[13:51] <namoamitabuddha> evenflow: IS /dev/sdb YOUR USB STICK?
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> !caps
[13:51] <evenflow> lotuspsychje, will try
[13:51] <kristenbb> TJ-: unity 2D allows them though ... so maybe the conflict is not hard to solve
[13:52] <namoamitabuddha> evenflow: Is /dev/sdb your USB stick?
[13:52] <evenflow> lotuspsychje, - This media may be physically write-protected, check the jumpers.
[13:52] <acerme> i see,thanks
[13:52] <P4NCake> Wanted: Portable USB, Use live cd or clean install? want space for filesystem. wat do?
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:there is no special button for security on the stick perhaps?
[13:53] <evenflow> there is only a button saying "backup"
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> evenflow: yeah thought so
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:can you erase data from nautilus?
[13:54] <TJ-> kristenbb: Because '2D' doesn't use all the fancy 3D compositing
[13:54] <P4NCake> ubottu, can you search portable for me?
[13:54] <subz3r0> P4NCake, youre looking for a persistant usb stick installation. google for it.
[13:54] <P4NCake> !portable
[13:54] <evenflow> lotuspsychje , trying
[13:54] <codemaniac> acerme: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[13:54] <acerme> is there someone can speak chinaese
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> P4NCake:wich Os are you on?
[13:54] <namoamitabuddha> acerme: forward #ubuntu-cn
[13:54] <Pici> !zh | acerme
[13:55] <P4NCake> subz3r0, but can I use it on other pcs?
[13:55] <subz3r0> yes
[13:55] <P4NCake> Windows, came by default. I hate it anyway. lotuspsychje
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> !wubi | P4NCake
[13:55] <P4NCake> subz3r0, I mean.. Will it detect the drivers like the live cd?
[13:55] <subz3r0> P4NCake, yes.
[13:55] <namoamitabuddha> !natty
[13:55] <subz3r0> google it, check youtube..etc..
[13:56] <namoamitabuddha> !precise | namoamitabuddha
[13:56] <P4NCake> thanks guys.. But isn't wubi dangerous? And what do you do if the system doesn't have windows?
[13:56] <subz3r0> there are a bunch of tutorials out there
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> P4NCake:better livecd precise then
[13:56] <namoamitabuddha> evenflow: OK?
[13:56] <evenflow> lotuspsychje, bope, cant open with nautilus
[13:56] <subz3r0> wubi? do not use it. :)
[13:56] <P4NCake> lotuspsychje, I want 10.04 though...
[13:56] <evenflow> nope
[13:56] <TJ-> kristenbb: See bug #1007352
[13:56] <P4NCake> Thanks guys
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> !10.04
[13:57] <P4NCake> thanks
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:what about sudo nautilus?
[13:57] <namoamitabuddha> evenflow: sudo cat /dev/zero > /dev/sdb
[13:58] <namoamitabuddha> evenflow: sorry
[13:58] <MasterOfDisaster> evenflow, namoamitabuddha
[13:58] <evenflow> namoamitabuddham, dont be sorry, im not listening to you :)
[13:58] <evenflow> lotuspsychje , cant see the drive either
[13:58] <namoamitabuddha> evenflow: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb ...
[13:58] <MasterOfDisaster> oops, nevermind
[13:59] <din> i'm having trouble with padsp and LD_PRELOAD for libpulsedsp.so. anyone hear of this yet?
[13:59] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:thats really odd..
[13:59] <namoamitabuddha> !dd
[13:59] <namoamitabuddha> !ddrescue
[13:59] <P4NCake> guys, If 9.04 is not supported, I won't be able to download it?
[13:59] <P4NCake> Also, no updates?
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> P4NCake:why no precise?
[14:00] <evenflow> lotuspsychje, im reading about this drive, looks like it is being blocked by a sandisk software thats created the backup
[14:00] <P4NCake> lotuspsychje, I don't really like unity
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> evenflow:thats why i sugested you to see if you can erase stuff with nautilus
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> PANCake:you can install gnome-shell on precise if you like
[14:00] <benassi> hello
[14:01] <namoamitabuddha> evenflow: lsusb -vnn
[14:01] <P4NCake> lotuspsychje, but would it still be compatible with gnome2 software?
[14:01] <namoamitabuddha> evenflow: lsusb -v
[14:01] <TJ-> evenflow: Have you tried "sudo blkid /dev/sdb" or (if it has partitions) "sudo blkid /dev/sdb1"  ?
[14:01] <evenflow> lotuspsychje, i see
[14:01] <evenflow> TJ, nope
[14:01] <acerme_> error no screen found
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> P4NCake:you can !info packagename in here to see if precise still has software in repos
[14:02] <acerme_> how to save
[14:02] <benassi> how can view my harddisks like in win7 ... I have win7 and ubuntu installation on my hdds ... I have two hdd 320,500GB... every hdd is divided into two partitions
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> P4NCake:but i guess most will work yes
[14:02] <benassi> I want to format disk where is win7
[14:02] <DasEi> benassi: sudo fdisk -l
[14:02] <P4NCake> lotuspsychje, thanks
[14:02] <DasEi> benassi: use gparted for gui
[14:02] <DasEi> !info gparted
[14:03] <TJ-> benassi: I think you want the disk partition manager. From the dashboard type "gparted"
[14:03] <DasEi> benassi: farmer command list your partis'
[14:03] <P4NCake> !info aircrack-ng > P4NCake
[14:03] <DasEi> lists*
[14:03] <P4NCake> :(
[14:04] <evenflow> lotuspsychje, there a suggestion to use u3-tools
[14:04] <tech1> how can i check if a specific program is installed via terminal... without running the program with it's name
[14:04] <benassi> DasEi http://paste.ubuntu.com/1150703/
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> !info aircrack
[14:04] <tech1> or using a string search which will turn up lots of other stuff
[14:04] <wN> tech1: try using the deb command
[14:04] <wN> like deb -l or something
[14:04] <DasEi> lotuspsychje: missed the -ng
[14:04]  * wN not on ubuntu atm
[14:04] <benassi> how can I determinate on which partition and hdd is win7
[14:05] <P4NCake> !info tkiptun-ng > P4NCake
[14:05] <benassi> so I dont format wrong partition and hdd
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> P4NCake:manual install mate
[14:05] <Pici> !msgthebot | P4NCake
[14:05] <tech1> it says "deb command not found"
[14:05] <P4NCake> oh lawl thanks pici
[14:05] <acerme_> how to solve :no screen found .when start?
[14:05] <P4NCake> thanks lotuspsychje
[14:05] <slipttees> why brasero is crap?  why it still comes with ubuntu?
[14:05] <DasEi> benassi: so it'll be sda5, as said above, use gparted for an easy format/erase
[14:06] <TJ-> evenflow: You should check the logs they usually reveal something. /var/log/kern.log is favourite
[14:06] <DasEi> !best | slipttees
[14:06] <namoamitabuddha> tech1: try aptitude
[14:06] <jgm1> st
[14:06] <Pici> tech1: if you know what package it is in, you can use apt-cache policy or dpkg -l to determine if it is installed.
[14:06] <iceroot> slipttees: there is no better burning app (because the one which is better is pulling kde stuff)
[14:06] <tech1> ahh "dpkg" works thanks
[14:06] <benassi> DasEi how did you determinate that?
[14:06] <P4NCake> If a package does not exist in precise, does it mean it does not support it?
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> no
[14:06] <slipttees> iceroot: very bad... :(
[14:06] <namoamitabuddha> tech1: yeah, dpkg -l also words.
[14:07] <iceroot> slipttees: just install what you want
[14:07] <slipttees> iceroot: why not GnomeBaker?
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> P4NCake:you can always add deb lines to get software
[14:07] <DasEi> slipttees: also can burn from cmd-line, and oc more than just few gui-apps
[14:07] <DasEi> benassi: from your pastie
[14:07] <P4NCake> thanks..
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> P4NCake:most will work with precise mate dont worry
[14:07] <benassi> explain me please .. so in future I would have not need to ask DasEi  :)
[14:08] <P4NCake> thanks lotuspsychje, really helpful.
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> P4NCake:even run gnome classic after
[14:08] <slipttees> iceroot: I see that you do not think in the end-users.
[14:08] <slipttees> DasEi: I see that you do not think in the end-users.
[14:08] <namoamitabuddha> slipttees: What did they do?
[14:08] <iceroot> slipttees: what is not fine with brasero?
[14:09] <slipttees> brasero is very bad
[14:09] <iceroot> slipttees: does it not burn cds with an easy gui?
[14:09] <iceroot> slipttees: that is your opinion
[14:09] <namoamitabuddha> slipttees: Burning CD?
[14:09] <namoamitabuddha> slipttees: Try this:
[14:09] <slipttees> namoamitabuddha: no copy, eject problems
[14:09] <namoamitabuddha> slipttees: eject?
[14:10] <slipttees> copy finish give me an erro
[14:10] <iceroot> slipttees: the eject is done by the kernel, not the burning app
[14:10] <namoamitabuddha> slipttees: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-cdburn/index.html
[14:10] <DasEi> benassi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1150703/ (by the way, it's sdb, not sda) you can see the filesystems/sizes/marked as bootpartition  there
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> slipttees:many problem can be solved buying good blank cdroms and good cdrom writer
[14:10] <namoamitabuddha> slipttees: cdrecord
[14:10] <evenflow> looks like the only way to remove the u3 launchpad is using a windows software by sandisk
[14:10] <slipttees> namoamitabuddha: terminal eject work, brasero never eject cd or dvd
[14:11] <iceroot> slipttees: if you dont like an application you are free to install another program, you can not put a program as default which everyone likes
[14:11] <Pici> slipttees: have you filed a bug?
[14:11] <slipttees> lotuspsychje: i wont have problem nero on windows!
[14:11] <iceroot> slipttees: i dont have problems with brasero on GNU/Linux
[14:11] <iceroot> slipttees: so what is the point you want to tell us?
[14:11] <DasEi> slipttees: if you got a valid key, can also use nero on 'buntu
[14:11] <benassi> DasEi dont know why but cant format it
[14:11] <slipttees> LofS: than, blank cd is okay em cdrom writer too
[14:12] <LofS> wat
[14:12] <DasEi> benassi: the hd has to UNmounted, gparted must be run as root
[14:12] <DasEi> benassi: no OS on sda ?
[14:12] <slipttees> DasEi: I just wanted a decent burner in ubuntu.
[14:12] <namoamitabuddha> DasEi: Eh, one cannot unmount rootfs.
[14:13] <namoamitabuddha> slipttees: Try cdrecord
[14:13] <benassi> I removed partiton where sdb is
[14:13] <slipttees> namoamitabuddha: cmd line?
[14:13] <DasEi> namoamitabuddha: go live/other hd, sure can
[14:13] <benassi> where win7 is
[14:13] <namoamitabuddha> slipttees: Yes. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-cdburn/index.html
[14:13] <benassi> .. and now when I try to format other partition it says it is locked
[14:13] <benassi> or somewhat
[14:13] <ThinkT510> slipttees: xfburn works great for me
[14:13] <slipttees> namoamitabuddha: and end-users?
[14:14] <namoamitabuddha> slipttees: That tutorial is enough.
[14:14] <slipttees> ThinkT510: thanks
[14:14] <DasEi> slipttees: brasero seldom failed, though I like k3b better (pulls lots of libs from kde, though) or go by dd or wodim, nero is also possible, if you own a registered key
[14:14] <iceroot> slipttees: there are so many burning applications (k3b is imo the best), just install another software and everyone is happy
[14:14] <namoamitabuddha> slipttees: It's not a manpage. It teaches you step by step.
[14:15] <namoamitabuddha> iceroot: k3b needs KDE environment.
[14:15] <iceroot> namoamitabuddha: as i said earlier, yes
[14:15] <slipttees> namoamitabuddha: You should review another recorder for ubuntu, because this is no longer acceptable to a level distribution of ubuntu.
[14:15] <win-fail> please can someone tell my the differences between 32 & 64 bits of ubuntu?
[14:15] <iceroot> slipttees: brasero is working fine for most users
[14:16] <iceroot> slipttees: as said already
[14:16] <DasEi> slipttees: ...
[14:16] <iceroot> slipttees: maybe your problem is not brasero related
[14:16] <iceroot> slipttees: if you find a bug fill it
[14:16] <namoamitabuddha> iceroot: He thinks that CLI is not for end-users.
[14:16] <iceroot> !bug | slipttees
[14:16] <siavashserver> win-fail: x64 supports more memory + faster execution times
[14:16] <Pici> Can we move on?
[14:16] <namoamitabuddha> Yes.
[14:16] <DasEi> slipttees: you could start brasero from cmd-line to see debugging output
[14:17] <slipttees> DasEi: i known it
[14:17] <iceroot> namoamitabuddha: i think that too and the nice thing is that you dont need the cli anymore to use GNU/Linux
[14:17] <siavashserver> win-fail: x86 only supports up to 3.75GB of memory iirc
[14:17] <DasEi> benassi: do you get along ?
[14:17] <iceroot> siavashserver: 4gb
[14:17] <denys_> cannot watch video
[14:18] <Pici> !details | denys_
[14:18] <denys_> when I wanna watch smth
[14:18] <kennen> Hi, i have a Problem with SMSTools3 can some help me with my error "modem is not registered" AT+CSQ Says 17,99 so the network is availibil
[14:18] <siavashserver> iceroot: you are wrong
[14:18] <iceroot> siavashserver: no
[14:18] <denys_> it tels me that I need a mp4 codec
[14:18] <slipttees> DasEi: I'm just here to say that would put other default writer in ubuntu brasero why not give more.
[14:18] <siavashserver> iceroot: google it for yourself
[14:18] <iceroot> siavashserver: 32bit = 4gb adressable memory
[14:18] <namoamitabuddha> iceroot: No, I don't think so. Working with command line interface and practicing enough, we can work more efficient. Shells and scripts work well.
[14:18] <DasEi> denys_: what kind of ? try vlc
[14:18] <denys_> I am choosing it, and then I get an error. I tried vlc
[14:18] <denys_> Package dependencies cannot be resolved
[14:18] <denys_> This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time
[14:18] <iceroot> siavashserver: i dont need to google that because i know it
[14:18] <slipttees> DasEi: cause**
[14:18] <treebuey> i use k3b but use lxde or gnome. the dependencies get fixed on install. might want to install systemsettings to manipulate KDE settings tho
[14:18] <iceroot> siavashserver: 32bit = 4gb (ram + vga + pci adressbus)
[14:19] <iceroot> siavashserver: vga = shared memory vga
[14:19] <namoamitabuddha> treebuey: How did you start k3b?
[14:19] <DasEi> denys_: partner/medibuntu repos enabled ? libdvd... ??
[14:19] <namoamitabuddha> treebuey: I failed to do that.
[14:19] <namoamitabuddha> treebuey: Maybe permission problems.
[14:19] <TJ-> The Ubuntu 32-bit images (except the mini.iso) use PAE enabled kernels and can address more than 4GB of physical memory (if the hardware chipset supports the additional address lines)
[14:19] <denys_> what? 0o I am noob in ubuntu
[14:19] <siavashserver> iceroot: i don't have a shared memory vga and available memory is 3.75 on 32bit os
[14:20] <DasEi> !libdvdcss | denys_
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> i dident think lubuntu used the pae kernel by default either
[14:20] <iceroot> siavashserver: ram + vga + pci adressbus
[14:20] <iceroot> siavashserver: google it
[14:20] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: maybe... I've not looked.
[14:20] <siavashserver> iceroot: google something i'm sure about? gimmie break
[14:21] <denys_> lol
[14:21] <treebuey> namoamitabuddha:  it seems to install itself in the gnome menu.  or run /usr/bin/k3b from a terminal
[14:21] <DasEi> denys_: nvm, I'm having a break before going on, so.. open a terminal
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> finally slowly breaking away from the old old hardware. ;)
[14:21] <zqpm> #openvswitch
[14:21] <iceroot> siavashserver: lets stop this useless discussion, 32bit can adress 4gb memory (memory is not only ram)
[14:21] <denys_> my friend uses ubuntu 12.04 too, and he didn't got any of theese problesm
[14:21] <namoamitabuddha> treebuey: Yes, but some error arose.
[14:21] <denys_> opened
[14:22] <treebuey> namoamitabuddha:  what error did you get?
[14:22] <namoamitabuddha> treebuey: I didn't remember.
[14:22] <DasEi> denys_: please put my nick in replies;; when we finished this issue I'll give you a link for further setup ;) ,enter : sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[14:22] <namoamitabuddha> treebuey: roughly about authority/permission.
[14:23] <bharath> can anyone please help me , my ubuntu 11.10 is crashing while I am copying a file of big size?
[14:23] <namoamitabuddha> bharath: file a bug.
[14:23] <DasEi> denys_: pastebinit    /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:23] <iceroot> namoamitabuddha: that is not usefull in this context
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> bharath:  how big, from where to where, copying how...
[14:23] <treebuey> namoamitabuddha:  interesting. did you try running k3b as root or with sudo?
[14:23] <DasEi> denys_: give resulting url here
[14:24] <namoamitabuddha> treebuey: No, normal user.
[14:24] <TJ-> iceroot: The thing is, most "32-bit" processors actually have an address-bus width of 36 bits, allowing addressing 64GB if the kernel supports PAE.
[14:24] <iceroot> TJ-: we are talking about 32bit, not pae
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> namoamitabuddha: k3b has a k3b setup tool/wizard you may want to run
[14:24] <namoamitabuddha> iceroot: It works because the system crashes.
[14:24] <bharath> Dr_Willis, size = 500mb from my local drive to Desktop
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> bharath:  desktop is on the same hd? or 2 different hds or partitions?
[14:25] <bharath> Dr_Willis, two different partitions
[14:25] <bharath> Dr_Willis, I am also facing same problem while I am extracting a file
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> bharath:  checked dmesg output when it fails? or 'tail -f /var/log/dmesg' as it copies and watch for errors
[14:27] <DasEi> denys_: anybody out there ?
[14:27] <rustler770> canon MG5320 works with USB but not wireless...any ideas?
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> with canon.. be thankfull it works at all.
[14:28] <bharath> Dr_Willis, this is dmesg http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1150745/
[14:28] <rustler770> sya unable to get printer status
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> rustler770: try the cups web interface to configure it. the webgui has a lot more settings i fine to twiddle with
[14:28] <DasEi> rustler770: can't look after it now, my pixma does fine, if no reply here, try looking in the forum, too
[14:29] <histo> Interesting flash plugin just completely stopped working
[14:30] <rustler770> I used system settings > printing to configure downloaded drivers from canon
[14:30] <histo> chromium-browser doens't even think it's installed any more
[14:30] <DasEi> denys_: pastebinit installed ?
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> bharath:  monitor dmesg logs via that tail command and try copying the files.. to see if any errors appear.. you did check that your hd sient full?
[14:31] <bharath> Dr_Willis, and one thing when I am changing the permissions of a certain folder it is again changing its permission to is default
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> sounds like fs curruption, or hd hardware issues to me
[14:34] <denys_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1150752/
[14:34] <denys_> sry, my dog is sick, went to give her medicine
[14:34] <denys_> I am here now
[14:34] <DasEi> denys_: nick, please (what was the bot-trigger again, highlite ??)
[14:35] <denys_> erm, what?
[14:35]  * DasEi pets dog, let's proceed
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> !tab
[14:36] <bharath> Dr_Willis, is there any solution for this?
[14:36] <DasEi> denys_: if you don't put nicks in irc-conversations, your partner won't see message highlited, so it's easily lost, reading pastie now
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> bharath:  so fay you havent proven its either issue.. watch dmesg output for any error messages. fsck your filesystrm from a live cd, wont hurt either
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[14:38] <bharath> Dr_Willis, if you don't mind can you tell the procedure for that?
[14:38] <DasEi> denys_: so first let's enable partners repos : gksu gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:38] <DasEi> denys_: that works, but look in the channel , its         DasEi:
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> !fsck | bharath
[14:39] <denys_> DasEi like this?
[14:39] <histo> Can anyone confirm that the flashplugin-installer is not currently working with chromium-browser?
[14:39] <denys_> lol
[14:39] <DasEi> !yay
[14:39] <DasEi> hehe
[14:39] <DasEi> denys_: so first let's enable partners repos : gksu gedit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> is that factoid still correct?
[14:40] <bharath> Dr_Willis, can I run the command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" directly now
[14:40] <denys_> DasEi: I have widow opened ing gedit
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> bharath:  that will reboot the pc and fsck the system when it boots
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> or should at lease
[14:40] <DasEi> denys_: if you look at the pastie, see lines 53,54 ?  in gedit, remove the '#' in front that two lines
[14:40] <denys_> DasEi: with lots of string in it
[14:41] <histo> nvm just started working again after installing ubuntu-restricted-extras not sure what the issue was
[14:41] <DasEi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1150752/  , denys_
[14:41] <denys_> DasEi: 53,54. y . done
[14:41] <DasEi> denys_: SAVE file
[14:41] <namoamitabuddha> NO proprietary software!
[14:41] <denys_> DasEi: saved
[14:41] <DasEi> denys_: close gedit
[14:42] <denys_> DasEi: closed
[14:42] <namoamitabuddha> -> FREE software
[14:42] <namoamitabuddha> !proprietary
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> namoamitabuddha: do you have a support question?
[14:42] <Ormie> he is a buddhist.
[14:42] <DasEi> denys_: sudo apt-get -f install -y  && sudo apt-get update -y && sudo apt-get upgrade -y
[14:42] <namoamitabuddha> Dr_Willis: Support what?
[14:42] <DasEi> !support
[14:43] <namoamitabuddha> Dr_Willis: I heard somebody was talking about ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:43] <Ormie> namoamitabuddha, this is an ubuntu support channel. You can ask questions about ubuntu here.
[14:43] <namoamitabuddha> Dr_Willis: Now I'm just against that.
[14:43] <DasEi> !ot
[14:43] <Dr_Willis> namoamitabuddha:  so you just started ranting...
[14:43] <namoamitabuddha> Dr_Willis: ranting?
[14:43] <fidel> namoamitabuddha: this channel focuses on support not theoretical discussions which might be better held in the offtopic channel ;)
[14:43] <fidel> !ot > namoamitabuddha
[14:43] <DasEi> :)
[14:43] <Ormie> !ot > namoamitabuddha
[14:43] <denys_> DasEi: done
[14:44] <Ormie> oops
[14:44] <DasEi> denys_: any errors from apt ?
[14:44] <dzup> just kick him out
[14:44] <denys_> DasEi it writes in last string 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[14:44] <DasEi> denys_: fine, so :
[14:45] <DasEi> denys_: sudo apt-get install gnome-mplayer* ubuntu-restricted-extras vlc
[14:46] <namoamitabuddha> I suggest smplayer.
[14:46] <namoamitabuddha> sudo aptitude search '~nsmplayer'
[14:46] <Ormie> i still have ubuntu 7.10 desktop edition cd. What shall i do with it?
[14:46] <DasEi> denys_: sudo apt-get install libdvdread4
[14:46] <denys_> DasEi: seems it got installed
[14:46] <DasEi> denys_: sudo apt-get install libdvdread4
[14:47] <fidel> Ormie: i doubt that is a support question either ;) do whatever you do with old useless data ;)
[14:47] <denys_> DasEi: ok
[14:47] <denys_> DasEi: sec
[14:47] <namoamitabuddha> Ormie: 7.10 is out-of-date and out-of-support.
[14:47] <DasEi> denys_: sure, what kind of file you try to watch ? btw, now try again, gnome-mplayer or vlc
[14:47] <Ormie> !OB > namoamitabuddha
[14:48] <denys_> DasEi: libdvdread4 is already the newest version.
[14:48] <DasEi> Ormie:dist-upgrade might be harsh, backup, reinstall
[14:48] <denys_> DasEi: I'm trying to watch mpeg4
[14:48] <DasEi> denys_:good sign
[14:48] <Ormie> no. i just have the cd. i am using 12.04 here.
[14:48] <DasEi> denys_: no prob with vlc/mplayer now
[14:48] <DasEi> Ormie: ic, well do a mobile with it ;)
[14:49] <Ormie> ok
[14:49] <DasEi> denys_: working now ?
[14:50] <namoamitabuddha> !lts > Ormie
[14:50] <DasEi> denys_: further enhancements : http://tinyurl.com/6vdrngz
[14:50] <kandinski> does ubuntu have some kind of antiflood protection for the keyboard?
[14:50] <Ormie> wut?
[14:50] <denys_> DasEi: it works nicely
[14:50] <Dr_Willis> vlc should be able to play a mpeg4 by default i think.
[14:50] <kandinski> I have programmed something that generates uinput events, and the third one in a row is getting lost somewhere
[14:50] <Ormie> i already know what it is.
[14:51] <denys_> DasEi: can you tell me, what did you do? I'm interested in understanding
[14:51] <DasEi> namoamitabuddha: could you lean back a little ?
[14:51] <namoamitabuddha> Ormie: LTS only supports for 3 years.
[14:51] <DasEi> !repo | denys_
[14:52] <DasEi> denys_: in the sources.list ubuntu is told where to fetch software from, and further on some requirements might not have been installed yet is what we did, see above link for more tasks
[14:52] <DasEi> denys_: further enhancements : http://tinyurl.com/6vdrngz
[14:54] <DasEi> denys_: another good place are the forums, as they are not so crowded and fast as irc
[14:55]  * DasEi back to homeworks
[14:55] <denys_> DasEi: thanks a lot, I got some nice reading here
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> !manual | denys_
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> gotta love official manuals
[15:02] <namoamitabuddha> How to introduce ubottu into domestic community, for example, #ubuntu-tw?
[15:03] <DJones> namoamitabuddha: You should ask in #ubuntu-irc they'll be able to identify which bot is best and make arrangements
[15:03] <namoamitabuddha> DJones: thanks!
[15:05] <nsahoo> how can I turn off or on the anti-aliasing setting in gvim?
[15:06] <pas> hay algien por roquetas
[15:06] <fidel> !es > pas
[15:08] <rustler770> searched forums-still can't get canon MG5320 to work wireless, works fine USB
[15:11] <Assid> hi
[15:11] <Assid> how do i get apt to be multi threaded.. its ownloading only 1 package at a time.. which is extremely slow
[15:12] <bazhang> Assid, you don't
[15:12] <Assid> i have a multi homed connection and i can max out 4 connections at a time
[15:12] <Oer> Assid, change mirror for faster download.
[15:12] <Assid> Oer: slow no matter what i do
[15:12] <bazhang> only one instance of apt can run at a time Assid
[15:13] <Assid> crap :(
[15:13] <Pici> Assid: take a look at man apt.conf, its likely an option in there.
[15:13] <Assid> Pici: i tried with access
[15:13] <Assid> Acquire::Queue-Mode "access";
[15:13] <Assid> but thats still not helping
[15:13] <mirak> hello
[15:14] <mirak> I have an issue with kubuntu, the fonts are extremely small and unreadable
[15:14] <Pici> Assid: access = one per URI type, so that will never be two connections if all your sources are HTTP.
[15:15] <leev> is there an openssh+lpk package for 12.04?
[15:15] <namoamitabuddha> Assid: You can get URI and manage to download them.
[15:15] <namoamitabuddha> Assid: For example
[15:15] <akamustang> How to do this in one line?
[15:15] <akamustang> var1="I am a string"
[15:15] <akamustang> var2=${var1,,}
[15:15] <akamustang> var3=${$var2/ /-}
[15:15] <FloodBot1> akamustang: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:16] <Pici> akamustang: #bash would be the best place to ask that
[15:16] <akamustang> ty
[15:16] <win-fail> system freezes when I open cheese, some help, please?
[15:16] <win-fail> worked fine before upgrading
[15:16] <kenshiro> Hi, I had installed Grub Legacy in my Ubuntu 12.04 . All works fine, just I want to disable recovery menu entries. What file is required to edit and how ?
[15:17] <VampsDaBeast> is it poosible to install another flavor of linx while in ubuntu? i have the partition already there and the iso needed. is this possible
[15:17] <VampsDaBeast> kenshiro, you mean grub not grub 2 right
[15:17] <GirlyGirl> VampsDaBeast: depends on the distro
[15:17] <kenshiro> vampsdabeast yes, I had reverted to Grub Legacy
[15:17] <namoamitabuddha> Eh, why "apt-get -y --print-uris install foo" doesn't work?
[15:18] <VampsDaBeast> GirlyGirl, wanting to install ArchBang
[15:18] <namoamitabuddha> why doesn't* ... work?
[15:18] <GirlyGirl> VampsDaBeast: Possible in theory but in practice no
[15:18] <VampsDaBeast> kenshiro, edit menu.lst to remove unwanted entries in the grub menu
[15:18] <kubanc> how do i install PyGPGME
[15:19] <GirlyGirl> VampsDaBeast: It would be faster to backup and reinstall
[15:19] <kenshiro> vampsdabeast but when I install a new kernel, it will not autogenerate recovery options?
[15:19] <user82> does anyone know if i can trust the lmsensors values for the single cores? http://screencloud.net/img/screenshots/5377fe2e3fde68d9732cb11e9798c9c6.png
[15:19] <VampsDaBeast> GirlyGirl, not reinstalling.. adding a daul boot option
[15:19] <user82> it looks really high to me(also compared to the cpu temp sensor on the MB)
[15:19] <VampsDaBeast> kenshiro, when you install a new kernel be sure to grub-update
[15:19] <bharath> Dr_Willis, even though I ran fsck I am getting the same problem
[15:19] <namoamitabuddha> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline/PrintUris
[15:19] <rypervenche> VampsDaBeast: You can.
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> bharath: and dmesg logs mention any errors?
[15:20] <rypervenche> VampsDaBeast: You'll need to install in in a chrooted environment though.
[15:20] <namoamitabuddha> Oh, sorry!
[15:20] <kenshiro> vampsdabeast I mean, when ubuntu autoupgrade to new kernel, it autoupgrades grub legacy. It works, but I think it will generate recovery options, is true?
[15:20] <rypervenche> VampsDaBeast: Or from a like cd
[15:21] <Assid> okay made it host based.. added more servers for hosts
[15:21] <VampsDaBeast> rypervenche, ok, i put archbang on a usb, and its given me a loop on intial menu for boot to live
[15:21] <bharath> sorry I haven't observe that
[15:22] <win-fail> can you help me? my system freezes when I open cheese after upgrade
[15:22] <bharath> Dr_Willis, actually it is coping to certain extent and then blocking the os
[15:22] <VampsDaBeast> kenshiro, once you remove the recovery options you shouldnt have to deal with them again. ubuntu just updates the ubuntu kernel and location.
[15:22] <namoamitabuddha> Assid: try this: https://launchpad.net/apt-fast
[15:23] <NuxRo> Hi, how do i see info about an installed deb package? (something like `rpm -qi php-gd` in the redhat world) ?
[15:23] <kenshiro> vampsdabeast ok thank you !
[15:23] <_DanN_> NuxRo: dpkg -l
[15:23] <namoamitabuddha> NuxRo: dpkg -l
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> bharath:  when it hass the issue - then check dmesg output. it might be a read/write issue
[15:24] <rypervenche> VampsDaBeast: That's something you'll need to take up with archbang then.
[15:24] <NuxRo> thanks namoamitabuddha & _DanN_
[15:24] <msponge> Using curl, I'd like to upload a file to a server as part of a POST but I want it to be a value as part of a name/value pair. What I'm trying is 'curl -d image=@img.jpg -d orientation=landscape http://blah but the server is only getting @img.jpg, not the actual file's contents. Is there an easy way to do this?
[15:25] <root> hi
[15:25] <k1l_> !rootirc | root
[15:25] <Guest83202> ok
[15:25] <Guest83202> thanks
[15:27] <Guest83202> is there any chat irc for backtrack users???
[15:27] <msponge> ah, never mind, figured it out. Need --data-urlencode name@filename
[15:27] <Psi-Jack> Guest83202: /msg alis help
[15:27] <win-fail> how can i install java on ubuntu?
[15:27] <Psi-Jack> win-fail: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[15:28] <bazhang> Guest83202, #backtrack-linux
[15:28] <Guest83202> help please . is there any irc for backtrack users??
[15:28] <Oer> win-fail, sudo apt-get install openjdk ( safe open source java )
[15:28] <rf_c0d3d> #rf_c0d3d
[15:28] <jdstrydom> bazhang: thanks
[15:29] <Oer> !backtrack > Guest83202
[15:29] <Guest83202> ok send me
[15:29] <Psi-Jack> I smell troll.
[15:30] <Oer> they will love you when you use irc with root in backtrack irc :-D
[15:30] <Assid> hmm.. so i moved it back to access.. but its still doing only 1 at a time
[15:31] <Assid> err .. host
[15:32] <Jon--> Ubuntu 12.04 is so buggy. My battery indicator was displaying time, told it to stop displaying time, battery indicator is now gone.
[15:32] <Jon--> One of 100 bugs since moving from 11.10
[15:33] <Psi-Jack> Jon--: Hmmm. haven't had many issues with 12.04 to date.
[15:33] <Psi-Jack> And I use it on 2 desktops, 1 laptop, and 18 servers.
[15:34] <davis776> looking for 12.04 x64 beta 2, is there any official archive?
[15:34] <Jon--> Psi-Jack, I am sure server is fine, most of the issues have been with GNOME for me. (running gnome-session-fallback)
[15:34] <Jon--> For ex I can't take screenshots at all. gnome-screenshot just doesn't work
[15:35] <Oer> davis776, why beta2 ? 12.04 is out now
[15:35] <Psi-Jack> Ahh. Gnome, I don't use. Unity I completely despise and think should be given it's funeral already, though I do like Gnome 3 with gnome-shell proper. I just use XFCE, fast, reliable, solid.
[15:36] <win-fail> can you help me? my system freezes when I open cheese after upgrade
[15:36] <davis776> Oer, cant pass Welcome screen, beta2 was ok, so I will install beta2 and upgrade
[15:36] <Psi-Jack> davis776: That makes -50% sense.
[15:37] <davis776> Psi-Jack, okay, so give me something better
[15:37] <Psi-Jack> State the /actual/ problem you are having, rather than asking completely off-the-wall ones, and maybe someone, anyone, can actually help you.
[15:38] <superfabbb> hi , how can install epsondx4400 in ubu 12.04?
[15:38] <superfabbb> the print is ok, scanner not why?
[15:39] <Oer> davis776, try the daily build >> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/precise/daily-live/20120813.2/
[15:39] <Guest83202> how to install image viewer for kde???/
[15:39] <davis776> Psi-Jack, okay. once I enter Welcome srceen (boot from CD or even USB) I can click on anything with my mouse, keyboard also works but doing nothing... tried same dvd/usb on different pc and works just ok
[15:39] <superfabbb> hello
[15:39] <Guest83202> how to install image viewer for kde???
[15:39] <Oer> Guest83202 ask in backtrack or #kubuntu
[15:39] <bazhang> Guest83202, sudo apt-get install gwenview
[15:39] <davis776> Oer, thank you man :)
[15:40] <bazhang> superfabbb, using simplescan ?
[15:40] <superfabbb> yes
[15:40] <k1l_> Guest83202: i really recommend to logout of the root account and use a user account for internet-programs like irc. besides that you were already pointed to the backtrack support channel
[15:41] <Guest83202> thanks
[15:41] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo superfabbb this may help
[15:41] <superfabbb> no scanner detected
[15:41] <jazzkovsky> On my fresh precise pangolin install (all updates done), my hitachi usb drive won't mount. instead I'm hearing 6 low beeps. Any ideas?
[15:41] <Guest83202> ok
[15:41] <bekks> jazzkovsky: Then take a look at "dmesg"
[15:42] <DasEi> jazzkovsky: sudo fdisk -l sees it ?
[15:42] <k1l_> jazzkovsky: try a different usb-channel?
[15:42] <jazzkovsky> bekks: unplugged drive. typed sudo dmesg -c then plugged drive. typed sudo dmesg: no output
[15:43] <DasEi> jazzkovsky: if not, lsusb ?  try to find it with id and ubuntu on the net
[15:44] <bekks> jazzkovsky: Clearing it deleted all error messages...
[15:44] <nico__> hi
[15:44] <jazzkovsky> k1l_: yes. same thing on all usb channels (but only with this drive)
[15:44] <bekks> jazzkovsky: That was the worst idea you could have.
[15:44] <jazzkovsky> bekks: ähm ... but after deleting it I plugged the drive, to see if plugging it caused any errors. it didn't
[15:45] <bekks> jazzkovsky: Which doesnt change the fact that now all error messages that were in the ring buffer are gone now.
[15:45] <jazzkovsky> DasEi: sudo fdisk -l doesn't show the drive
[15:46] <jazzkovsky> bekks: well, this procedure ws suggested on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1972450
[15:47] <bekks> jazzkovsky: I asked you for the output of dmesg, not for following some forum threads :)
[15:48] <jazzkovsky> bekks: well i kind of tried to find a solution before bothering this channel :/
[15:49] <DasEi> jazzkovsky:  lsusb ?  try to find it with id and ubuntu on the net
[15:49] <shrek1> is selinux installed by default in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[15:49] <DasEi> shrek1: no
[15:49] <DasEi> shrek1: apparmor isn't (as in usefull configured) either, but as selinux can use tomoyo, too
[15:50] <jazzkovsky> DasEi: lsusb does not list the drive either :(
[15:50] <DasEi> jazzkovsky: do other boxes (aca win) see it ?
[15:50] <Assid> yep apt-fast seems to be the only way i could max my connection
[15:50] <DasEi> jazzkovsky: last tries (as root) lshw, hwinfo
[15:51] <kristenbb> I have two default 12.04 machines. ssh -X doesn't work. $DISPLAY is not set. What can I do ?
[15:51] <jazzkovsky> DasEi: other boxes? you mean other usb dlots?
[15:51] <DasEi> kristenbb: allowed forwarding x in sshd_config ?
[15:51] <DasEi> jazzkovsky: other pc's
[15:51] <kristenbb> DasEi: yes, as is the default.
[15:52] <kristenbb> the error is 'error: can't open display'.
[15:55] <DasEi> kristenbb: http://tinyurl.com/8cupvp6 , Post 6
[15:56] <jazzkovsky> DasEi: could not find it on the usb slots with lshw;  hwinfo doesn't seem to work: "sudo: hwinfo: command not found"
[15:57] <DasEi> jazzkovsky: sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[15:57] <xangua> jazzkovsky: withouth the dots :::
[15:58] <DasEi> jazzkovsky: the drive is detected on other boxes ?
[15:58] <jazzkovsky> DasEi: I'll find that out in a minute
[15:59] <zwirc> Hi! How can I add a user to the computer so he only can access and see one folder ?
[15:59] <codemaniac> anyone familiar with micromax 3g modems here ?
[16:00] <codemaniac> micromax gives a tough time in linux .!!!
[16:01] <DasEi> zwirc: adduser, then re-permit it's home folder and the desired one
[16:02] <DasEi> zwirc: man adduser, chmod, chown
[16:03] <vicap> my ubuntu 12.04 installation seems to have encountered some turbulence overnight
[16:04] <vicap> I get to the log in screen, but when I type in the correct password rather than going to the desktop it shows a command shell in the upper left corner where I can't type or interact in any way
[16:04] <vicap> can anyone help me recover?
[16:05] <vicap> pretty please :)
[16:06] <BluesKaj> vicap, yes use the recovery kernel , the choose 'repair broken packages" , the partial install should finish and reboot
[16:06] <DasEi> vicap .. err has left
[16:06] <BluesKaj> yes , i see , instant gratifaction expected and no patience whatsover
[16:07] <DasEi> BluesKaj: or a fuzzy client/connection , ;)
[16:07] <BluesKaj> DasEi, you're too kind ...I think it's the former
[16:08] <djnick> I am having some issues with file permission modes... this is really confusing :/
[16:08] <bharath> Dr_Willis: unable to change the permissions of the file in ubuntu 11.10
[16:09] <bazhang> !permissions | djnick this may help
[16:09] <jazzkovsky> DasEi: this is the only usb slot i was not sure bout: 61: USB 00.0: 10a00 Hub
[16:09] <jazzkovsky>   [Created at usb.122]
[16:09] <jazzkovsky>   Unique ID: k4bc.9T1GDCLyFd9
[16:09] <jazzkovsky>   Parent ID: 5YuN.SxJlZerZbOB
[16:09] <jazzkovsky>   SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-0:1.0
[16:09] <jazzkovsky>   SysFS BusID: 1-0:1.0
[16:09] <FloodBot1> jazzkovsky: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:10] <djnick> thanks bazhang
[16:10] <jazzkovsky> uups
[16:13] <bharath> though I use chmod +x dbsetup command , and ./dbsetup  but it gives exec: 203: ./db2setup: Permission denied
[16:13] <bekks> dbsetup != db2setup
[16:13] <davis776> Oer, still the same :/
[16:13] <davis776> Psi-Jack, so any suggestions? :)
[16:14] <fego> ile:///home/arijit/Desktop/micromaxUSB%20mod
[16:14] <djnick> is there any way to target only directories with chmod? or do I have to individually change each one? :/
[16:14] <fego> file:///home/arijit/Desktop/micromaxUSB%20mod
[16:14] <bharath> bekks: I use db2setup in both cases
[16:14] <bekks> djnick: you can use find . -type d
[16:15] <fego> dbsetup != db2setup
[16:15] <fego> bharath:
[16:16] <jazzkovsky> DasEi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1150944/
[16:16] <bharath> fego: sorry ,I use db2setup in both cases
[16:16] <asteroid00_> hi
[16:16] <Oer> How do i remove the paid software list from softwarecentre ?
[16:16] <DinosaurPorkchop> My flash videos are choppy. How can I fix this?
[16:16] <Oer> Or is that unsupported too, like the crapware in that list?
[16:18] <djnick> I guess I will need to write a bash script to chmod on only directories...
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> djnick: or an alias
[16:19] <DasEi> jazzkovsky: that's just the hub, you need the drive
[16:19] <trism> djnick: find is useful, depending on what you are doing (just walked in)
[16:19] <piglit> i have one ssd and one 500 gig sata disk how can i did sudo hdparm -S 1/dev/sda to make the sda quit but it still ceeps on booting u
[16:19] <piglit> and making noise
[16:19] <trism> djnick: find -type d -exec chmod something {} +
[16:20] <djnick> ahh, cool thanks trism!
[16:20] <DasEi> jazzkovsky: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo hwinfo | grep usb | pastebinit          ,give url here
[16:20] <piglit> i use grub to choose between hda and hdb
[16:20] <piglit> hda is not mounted i think
[16:20] <piglit> hda is the noisy 500 gig disk
[16:20] <djnick> Dr_Willis: what is an alias?
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> alias ll="ls -l"
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> then try ll
[16:21] <jazzkovsky> DasEi: plugged it on another box (win laptop); laptop didn't recognize the drive and i got the same 5 or 5 times low error beep fromn the drive
[16:21] <Dr_Willis> its a bash feature
[16:21] <jazzkovsky> DasEi: 5 or 6 times
[16:21] <djnick> Dr_Willis: I really need to read up on Bash... thanks for you help!
[16:22] <djnick> *Your help
[16:22] <Dr_Willis> bash foo skils are handy
[16:23] <bharath> Dr_Willis: I am unable to change the permissions in properties of a file
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> bharath: what file..
[16:23] <knyn_> Hi, I tried to run a game but I get this error message... "./teeworlds: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[16:24] <bharath> Dr_Willis: db2setup file
[16:24] <Dr_Willis> !info teeworlds
[16:25] <bharath> Dr_Willis: even to a folder
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> bharath: whats the full path toit. who oens it. ls -l thefile. to show info onit
[16:27] <jazzkovsky> DasEi: Strangely, it didn't work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1150965/
[16:27] <bharath> Dr_Willis: l 1
[16:27] <bharath> drwxrwxrwx 5 bharath bharath 1024 2009-05-31 19:16 expc
[16:28] <DasEi> jazzkovsky:  sudo lspci -vv | grep usb | pastebinit          ,give url here
[16:32] <jazzkovsky> DasEi: I get: "You are trying to send an empty document, exiting."
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> sounds like a typo somewhere
[16:33] <DasEi> jazzkovsky:  sudo lspci -vv | grep usb         does this generate output ?
[16:33] <bharath> Dr_Willis: can you help on this?
[16:33] <jazzkovsky> DasEi: negativ.
[16:34] <TJ-> jazzkovsky: Try this: "sudo lspci -vv | grep -A 15 -i USB | pastebinit"
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> bharath:  your directory is executable.. you gave no info on the actual file you are trying to run
[16:34] <DasEi> jazzkovsky: strange...
[16:35] <DasEi> jazzkovsky:  sudo lspci -vv         does this generate output ?
[16:36] <jazzkovsky> TJ-: : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1150986/
[16:36] <nico__> i go
[16:37] <TJ-> jazzkovsky: not sure what the original problem is - I was just correcting the command :)
[16:37] <bharath> Dr_Willis: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1150992/
[16:37] <jazzkovsky> DasEi: yes, it does. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1150994/
[16:39] <zen> hi there
[16:39] <hommer2> hi
[16:39] <padhu> why mail clients can't download mails after 4000 messages configured for gmail?
[16:40] <_DanN_> padhu: more details please
[16:40] <DasEi> jazzkovsky:  sudo lsusb | pastebinit
[16:42] <padhu> DanN_: I tried to download all of my mails from my gmail account using mail client Thunder bird & claws Mail. Bother are can't download mails after getting 4000 mails from server. I used POP3. Logs are not show any errors
[16:42] <marsfligth> Hi, I need to set root cronjobs via shell script. I read the file in '/var/spool/cron/crontabs/root' and it says 'DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE'. Why it's not permit to edit it via shell? I'd use 'wc' and 'printf'. Thanks for reading
[16:42] <_DanN_> padhu: use imap ....
[16:42] <bharath> Dr_Willis: I have send you the details
[16:43] <paulgnu> quien puede ayudar con ldap
[16:43] <_DanN_> padhu: and make thunderbird work with imap folders offline - settings
[16:43] <padhu> DanN_: Why? any restrictions?
[16:44] <_DanN_> padhu: possibly yes ...
[16:44] <padhu> DanN_: can i continue my downloading of mails from previous stage? or i must start fresh
[16:44] <_DanN_> padhu: not according to RFC though
[16:45] <_DanN_> padhu: this is "benefit" of using pop3
[16:45] <davis776> does alternate version containt default ubuntu gui?
[16:45] <_DanN_> padhu: if you need just backup your emails then use fetchmail
[16:45] <_DanN_> there won't be any limit from client side I think
[16:45] <jazzkovsky> DasEi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1151009/
[16:46] <aaa801> is there a way to prevent ubuntu from writing to external drives until they are unmounted?
[16:46] <padhu> DanN_: okey, i will try ...... Third time :-(.
[16:47] <Psi-Jack> davis776: Is this a brand new install? Have you tried to CTRL+ALT+F1, to get a a text console, and try to do an aptitude update; aptitude upgrade?
[16:47] <_DanN_> aaa801: your ubuntu is writingto drive which is not mounted ?
[16:47] <aaa801> Nono, i mean i have a lfs build on a sdcard for the pi
[16:48] <aaa801> extracting files takes forever if its writing to the actual device
[16:48] <GH0> What are some programs that let you write into PDF files, and perform similar tasks as Adobe Acrobat Writer? Orkut is not doing the job I need to do.
[16:48] <aaa801> if it could just do it in ram and then copy it over the the partition after
[16:48] <aaa801> =/
[16:48] <adee> aaa801: until unmounted? after unmount there is no writing either..
[16:49] <aaa801> usauly when i unmount it wont say unmounted until all data is clean
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> aaa801:  make a partition in a file and mount it via the loopback feature, then dd it to the sd
[16:49] <aaa801> Thats a good idea Dr_Willis :D
[16:49] <aaa801> Thanks
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> my sd cards are decently speedy..
[16:49] <Psi-Jack> Dr_Willis still lives! Holy crap! ;)
[16:49] <aaa801> ye but extracting gcc to a class 4 is horid ;)
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> Psi-Jack:  im at work. on dayshift now. ;)
[16:50] <_DanN_> aaa801: create ramdisk and use it as buffer ...
[16:50] <Psi-Jack> Dr_Willis: Finally moved up in the world, eh?
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> working on irc, a dreamjob
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> Psi-Jack:  got forced to days..  ;)
[16:50] <adee> aaa801: use tmpfs (depending on the size requirements)
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> lotuspsychje:  i never said i aork on irc... ;)
[16:50] <Psi-Jack> Dr_Willis: You mean voluntold, right?
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> got told.. you go to days... ;) not been on irc much lately
[16:52] <nicolegnu> I have ubuntu server 4.12 and the following error
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> 4.12?
[16:52] <fidel> nicolegnu: 12.04 i guess ;)
[16:52] <nicolegnu> Use of qw(...) as parentheses is deprecated at /usr/share/perl5/smbldap_tools.pm line 1423, <DATA> line 522
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[16:52] <DasEi> jazzkovsky: doesn't look too good, you can hear the drive spinning up when plugging it ?
[16:52] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[16:53] <nicolegnu> I have ubuntu server 4.12 and the following error Use of qw (...) as parentheses is deprecated at / usr/share/perl5/smbldap_tools.pm line 1423, line 522 <DATA>
[16:54] <Oer> How do i remove the paid software list from softwarecentre ?
[16:54] <TJ-> nicolegnu: That's a PERL error. What command are you issuing to get that
[16:54] <nicolegnu> spanish
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> nicolegnu:maybe this can help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1988204
[16:57] <nicolegnu> modify the lines but generates other errors
[16:58] <dae448> I have a hot key already that opens gnome-terminal (Windows+R). How can I change it so that the hot key opens a new tab in an existing instance of gnome-terminal instead of a new gnome-terminal? E.g., I want to force gnome-terminal to have a single window at a time
[16:58] <TJ-> nicolegnu: Is this the bug #984810
[16:59] <dae448> Or, even better, if I could bind separate hot keys to open new gnome-terminal tabs with specific tab profiles.
[17:01] <jazzkovsky> DasEi: I don't think so. What I do hear, is that 5 beepsound error coming from the drive. Not sure wht it means.
[17:02] <neyder_> greetings
[17:02] <TJ-> dae448: Have you checked "man gnome-terminal" ? I see this:  --tab-with-profile=PROFILENAME
[17:02] <E3D3> dae448, If you man the program 'konsole', try settings in the menu.
[17:02] <TJ-> jazzkovsky: what's the external drive make/model? Is it USB 2.0 or 3.0 ?
[17:03] <E3D3> dae448, * man = mean
[17:04] <dae448> TJ-, --tab-with-profile works, but it opens a new terminal window with that profile, it doesn't attach it as a new tab in the existing window
[17:04] <TJ-> dae448: ahh ok, I wondered if it was subtely different from --window-with-profile
[17:05] <TJ-> dae448: what is intriguing is "--disable-factory" implies that by default it *should* reuse an existing terminal
[17:06] <twem> Probably the wrong channel but I was wondering if anyone has got CS:GO running?
[17:06] <twem> Right now it loads up but if you change anything in the menu/settings or join a server it kills the application and places me back to my desktop.
[17:06] <Pici> twem: try #winehq
[17:06] <dae448> TJ-, --disable-factory seems to reuse the existing terminal's connection, just in a new window. Not sure what it would be useful for
[17:07] <DasEi> jazzkovsky: so it's possibly a dead drive then, re-check on another box, last chance is hitachi firmware (parked or something), can't help there any further
[17:07] <twem> Okay, thanks. Was just trying here first to see any ubuntu users had a fix.
[17:07] <dae448> The best I can do is a hot key that runs gnome-terminal --tab-with-profile=Prof1 --tab-with-profile=Prof2 ... and have them all open at once
[17:07] <Praxi> hmm my ubuntu box keeps logging me out, its like it runs out of resources, then just dumps me to a login screen
[17:08] <jazzkovsky> DasEi: k. thanks.
[17:08] <TJ-> dae448: see this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1188959/open-a-new-tab-in-gnome-terminal-using-command-line
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> Praxi:  you mean its 'crashing' back to the login screen. ;)
[17:09] <Praxi> ya, just a very graceful crash hehe
[17:09] <Praxi> its like I intentionally did a ctrl alt del
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> Praxi:  x server is crashing and lightdm service restarts
[17:09] <Praxi> I assume there is some log file I should be looking over?
[17:09] <morning> Having a problem with network manager: "wireless disabled by hardware switch" on a Lenovo laptop. But the switch is ON, not off. rflist shows Wireless soft blocked: no, Hardblocked: yes. Same for Bluetooth. Rfkill unblock all doesn't seem to remove the hardblock. What to do?
[17:10] <E3D3> dae448, excuse for my wrong reply.
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> morning:  windows on that machine?
[17:10] <morning> Dr_Willis: Lenovo T420s thinkpad
[17:11] <morning> No Windows.
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> morning: ive a few laptps i have to boot to windows to turn on wireless
[17:11] <morning> Dr_Willis: Doesn't seem an option for me.
[17:12] <Jordan_U> Dr_Willis: Have you tried rfkill on those machines?
[17:14] <Jordan_U> morning: Could it be a hardware problem?
[17:14] <marcus___> hello
[17:15] <marcus___> any one know how to make apu amd laptop run turbo mode ?
[17:15] <marcus___> my cpu can run on 2400 turbo but all i got on buntu is 1500
[17:15] <morning> jordan_U: I don't think so. Yesterday, the hardware switch would turn Bluetooth on, but not the Wireless. And both are controlled by the same switch. So it looks like the switch isn't the problem. Also, the F5 key DOES toggle softblock for Bluetooth, so that hardware key is okay too. So I would think that hardware isn't the problem.
[17:15] <marcus___> any help pls ?
[17:18] <newbchessplayer> i have KAlarm (a kde app) setup on two computers to start at login (its an option in the app itself). im using ubuntu on both PC's but one uses unity  2D and the other uses gnome2. Neither one of them start KAlarm on login. any suggestions?
[17:18] <dingbatfoo> how do I undo a rm -rf dir1 dir2?
[17:18] <luftikuss> dingbatfoo: Use your backup.
[17:18] <Jordan_U> !undelete | dingbatfoo
[17:18] <subz3r0> luftikuss, lol :D
[17:18] <TJ-> morning: Was it you I helped recently with changing the behaviour of the hot-key to stop it affecting the Wifi as well as Bluetooth?
[17:18] <dingbatfoo> Jordan_U, thanks
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> newbchessplayer: put link to it in .conf
[17:19] <newbchessplayer> what kind of link
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> oops.. .local/autorun
[17:19] <superfabbb> hi, i've a roblem with epson dx 4400
[17:19] <morning> TJ-: No, it wasn't (though I'm glad someone was helped).
[17:19] <superfabbb> scanner not found
[17:19] <superfabbb> what can i do?
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> morning:can you set BIOS to network boot:on?
[17:19] <Jordan_U> dingbatfoo: You're welcome. But as you'll see, it's not at all simple or guaranteed.
[17:20] <TJ-> morning: OK, because you sound to be describing the same issues that person also experienced. Trying to remember about the hardware switch side of things but my memory isn't playing ball
[17:20] <dingbatfoo> Jordan_U, yes, I've actually gone through that a couple of years ago
[17:20] <Dr_Willis> ~/.config/autostart/  i mean
[17:20] <morning> lotuspsychje: Not sure what that means. Last time I looked at the BIOS (a few minutes ago) all relevant settings seemed ON.
[17:21] <newbchessplayer> Dr_Willis, what kind of link
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> morning: i had several netbooks/laptops freezing on ubuntu with network boot:off (previous Os win7)
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> newbchessplayer: ln -s foo bar   a soft link
[17:21] <scribawf> How do I clean up/remove old kernals from boot?
[17:22] <ekarlso> apt-get autoremove
[17:22] <ekarlso> >> scribawf
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> scribawf: ubuntu tweak can remove all sorts of stuff
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> newbchessplayer: or a script. or a copy of its .desktop file
[17:22] <newbchessplayer> Dr_Willis, what is "foo" and "bar" in that?
[17:22] <scribawf> ekarlso:  OK Gud 'nuf thank you
[17:22] <DasEi> scribawf: manually or by synaptics, unless you specify howmany
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> newbchessplayer: example names
[17:22] <dingbatfoo> Jordan_U, I used the coroner's toolkit then, seems not to be mentioned any more...
[17:23] <morning> lotuspsychje: I see. I don't recall such a setting in my BIOS, but I suppose I could reboot and check. Should I?
[17:23] <scribawf> DasEi probably manually
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> morning: i would defenatly check, to be sure
[17:23] <DasEi> scribawf: was in grub farmer and I remember one can add it again, but ubuntu-tweak will be the easier way
[17:23] <cloudgeek> can .pcap file can merger with .cap file for IVS
[17:24] <DasEi> scribawf: manually? cd in the /boot and delete by rm, same for initrd's then sudo update-grub
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> cloudgeek: is it ubuntu-related?
[17:24] <scribawf> Tnx many and all, gud info will proceed to do/consider or try all the methods recommended
[17:25] <newbchessplayer> Dr_Willis, where is the .desktop folder located?
[17:25] <cloudgeek> lotuspsychje: yep !
[17:25] <morning> TJ: Missed your message in a flurry. Whatever you can remember would be appreciated. Other people do seem to be having similar issues. But the fixes they say have worked (varied moves with rfkill unblock) don't seem to be working for me.
[17:25] <ThinkT510> DasEi: deleting manually like that may upset apt
[17:26] <superfabbb> :)
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> newbchessplayer: each app has a related appname.desktop file. thats used by the system
[17:26] <DasEi> ThinkT510: true, though I never had complaints
[17:26] <TJ-> morning: to be clear; have you recently booted that PC with Windows?
[17:27] <superfabbb> :D
[17:27] <morning> TJ: Definitely not. Been nearly 2 years since I've had Windows on this machine.
[17:27] <newbchessplayer> Dr_Willis, i searched for "KAlarm.desktop" but it didn't find anything
[17:27] <TJ-> morning: OK, so that rules out Windows doing anything to the hardware... good!
[17:28] <TJ-> morning: Have you restarted that PC after removing the battery?
[17:28] <morning> TJ: Yes. Did that.
[17:28] <TJ-> morning: darn! You've covered all the easy ones :)
[17:28] <cloudgeek> !.pcap
[17:28] <morning> :-)
[17:28] <cloudgeek> !.cap
[17:29] <cloudgeek> !pcap
[17:29] <Jordan_U> !msgthebot | cloudgeek
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> !bot > cloudgeek
[17:30] <TJ-> morning: have you seen the last comment in this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/143782/wireless-is-disabled-by-hardware-switch-lenovo-b460
[17:30] <newbchessplayer> Dr_Willis, could you please let me know where the file is
[17:30] <marcus___> amd a6-3420m turbo mode how to make it works ?
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> newbchessplayer: no idea i dont use kde
[17:30] <marcus___> srly is rly important im loosing hell of cpu power here
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> newbchessplayer: could be its a kde widgit
[17:31] <TJ-> newbchessplayer: According to "apt-file search KAlarm.desktop" that file doesn't exist
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> TJ-:cool bios reset
[17:31] <morning> TJ-: No, I hadn't seen that. Thanks for pointing it out. I'll log out and try it. Will report back.
[17:33] <newbchessplayer> TJ-, what do i do then
[17:35] <TJ-> newbchessplayer: see https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+question/52201
[17:36] <marcus___> so no help with my cpu problem ?
[17:37] <TJ-> newbchessplayer: this is much better! http://askubuntu.com/questions/166743/kalarm-wont-start-at-login
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> marcus___:can you manually overclock cpu in bios?
[17:38] <marcus___> no
[17:38] <marcus___> and i dont want oc it
[17:38] <kaylee> hey, I've got what's probably a stupid question for ya... I've got something that's looking for libmtp, but I've got libmtp9 installed... what's the best way to go about directing it to look for 9?
[17:38] <kaylee> can I just to a symlink or somethign?
[17:38] <marcus___>  i want it works as apu turbo mode like it should
[17:38] <marcus___> ocing cpu on laptop is stuid batterys die in seconds  obviously
[17:39] <morning> TJ: Unfortunately. . . . . . . . . No change
[17:39] <marcus___> ld run 1 or 2 cores on 2400 if there is need f power and rest n 800 in thet tie
[17:40] <marcus___> all it cna run is 1500 as non turbo on windows
[17:40] <Dr_Willis> kaylee:  some precompiled binary not from the repos wants an older version?
[17:40] <TJ-> marcus___: As I understand it, 'turbo' mode turns off 2 of the 4 cores to boost their clocks...*only* if the running applications are lightly threaded. In other words, if the processes running on the system are using lots of threads more performance is gained by keeping all 4 cores busy at the regular clock rate
[17:41] <kaylee> no, not a precompiled binary
[17:41] <TJ-> morning: Grrrr
[17:41] <kaylee> trying to compile, and didn't want to muck with the config file unless I have to
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> kaylee: what then exactly?
[17:41] <morning> TJ :-)
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> kaylee:  ahh.. thats. different then
[17:41] <marcus___> tj yes but its dont works at all
[17:41] <kaylee> yeah, sorry :)
[17:41] <marcus___> i googled alot and non seems to find any solution
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> kaylee:  you may need to compile the older lib also
[17:42] <marcus___> for games this is game breaking cuz most games are singel core games
[17:42] <marcus___>  and this gaming laptop simly cannto run games on linux
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> marcus___:maybe they know something more in ##hardware about this issue?
[17:42] <marcus___> its not problem for normal use but i play HoN so i need some etra power on single core
[17:43] <marcus___> ty i check
[17:43] <kaylee> is there even any possibility that something as simple as a symlink may work?
[17:43] <histo> marcus___: what type of cpu do you have?
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> kaylee:  it may need the older version for a reason. but i guess you could try..
[17:44] <talas> Hi, i have a problem with a midi keyboard. I cant find it in qjackctl or anywhere else.. only in lsusb. what might be the problem?
[17:44] <histo> kaylee: Is it possible that the app you are trying to build from source has alredy been packaged in the software center?
[17:44] <kaylee> I guess my main question is ... is that a retard option that's going to fubar stuff?
[17:44] <kaylee> or is it just something that probably won't work?
[17:44] <histo> talas: driver issue maybe?  see if dmesg has any info when you are pluging it in
[17:45] <kaylee> histo: not that I've found, but probably ought to doublecheck
[17:45] <histo> kaylee: what app is it?
[17:45] <kaylee> jmtpfs
[17:45] <kaylee> trying to get my new android phone to mount
[17:45] <kaylee> MTP
[17:46] <TJ-> marcus___:  "Turbo Core kicks in when 3 or more cores (on a 6-core part) are idle. When this happens, the frequency of those three cores is reduced to 800MHz, the voltage to the entire chip is increased, and the remaining three cores are turboed up by as much as 500MHz. It doesn’t get any more granular than this. If you have 3 or more cores idle, then the remaining turbo up. In any other situation the CPU runs at its normal clocks."
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> thought that wes in 12.04
[17:46] <histo> kaylee: most android phones get mounted when they are plugged in
[17:46] <TJ-> marcus___: see http://www.anandtech.com/show/3641/amd-divulges-phenom-ii-x6-secrets-turbo-core-enabled
[17:46] <talas> histo: yes, theres some error like "device descriptor read/64, error -32" and "unable to enumerate USB device on port X".. thanks
[17:47] <kaylee> histo: yeah, I tried that first ;)
[17:47] <killown> anyone help me downgrade packages updated from latest 24 hours?
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> !pin | killown
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> pin the old versions basically
[17:47] <histo> kaylee: let me look some things up hold up
[17:48] <histo> kaylee: what type of android device is it?
[17:48] <kaylee> Samsung Galaxy SIII
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> TJ-:interestinf link
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> kaylee:  omgubuntu and/or webupd8 blog site had guides on that mtp android thing i recall
[17:49] <histo> kaylee: are you running a modded firmware?
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> is there a tablet yet with precise on?
[17:49] <kaylee> ah, I was looking through xda-developers forums
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> lotuspsychje:  not that ive seen
[17:50] <kaylee> nope, it's still stock... for now
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> lotuspsychje: a kubuntu one was supposd to be shipping soon
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> Dr-willis: i heard there was an ubuntu project for tablets, not sure whats it called
[17:50] <kaylee> I just got it last night
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> lotuspsychje:  'a work in progress' i think. ;)
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis:cool lemme google that
[17:51] <histo> kaylee: there is the mtpfs and mtp-tools packages
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> lotuspsychje: omgubuntu had some info last ,onth ok that kde tablet
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> !info mtpfs
[17:51] <lanwin1> hi. I need help in getting my server ubuntu server to shutdown when I press the power button. The common suggestions to install the acpid package dose not help. It dose nothing if I press the button. Not even a log to syslog.
[17:51] <histo> kaylee: also found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/146529/how-to-connect-samsung-galaxy-s3-via-usb
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis:how cool would that be ubuntu on tablet and usb ports all sides
[17:52] <kaylee> yup, that's what I found... which lead me to http://research.jacquette.com/jmtpfs-exchanging-files-between-android-devices-and-linux/
[17:52] <histo> kaylee: if the first package doesn't work I would look at installing mtp from git as described in my second link there
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> lotuspsychje: my toshiba thrive has full sized usb ports allrready. ;)
[17:52] <kaylee> hum, I HAVE mtp-tools
[17:52] <histo> kaylee: you could just install the mtpfs and mtp-tools packages unless you need the newer versions for the s3
[17:52] <kaylee> not sure when that got added though
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: is that also linux based?
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> lotuspsychje: technically android is linux based. )
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis:would be cool to see unity on a tablet :p
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> im not so sure unity will work well on a tablet as it is now
[17:56] <morning> TJ-: I was offline briefly to try something (also didn't work). Now I have to head off to an appointment. I suppose I'll check in here again sometime later in the day. Many thanks for your efforts.
[17:57] <TJ-> morning: OK ... I'll keep looking
[17:57] <TJ-> morning: one last thing...
[17:57] <morning> Yes.
[17:57] <tcial> Every so often my HDMI audio makes a screetching noise whilst playing music or sounds
[17:57] <tcial> It's a very electronic screech, almost like an 8bit sound, and it's intermittent :(
[17:57] <tcial> It's an Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
[17:57] <TJ-> morning: ... does bluetooth work and wifi not work? ... in other words, is the hardware rfkill switch doing something
[17:57] <tcial> I have not installed any drivers, do I need to?
[17:58] <kaylee> ah! see? this is what I get for not reading all the way
[17:58] <drag0nius> where are all places i can set up DNS server?
[17:58] <kaylee> support for the S3 is in git, but not released yet
[17:58] <drag0nius> i think it went down on my ubuntu server
[17:58] <tcial> No matter what audio software I use, it happens :(
[17:58] <morning> TJ-: I think it's been hit and miss. Bluetooth has *sometimes* worked. But I've rfkill'ed so many times now, I've lost track.
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h41yVOS6fao
[17:59] <morning> TJ-: It *has* been doing something because it has sometimes changed the state of hardblocked or softblocked.
[17:59] <drag0nius> i'm using ubuntu server as router and at other comps everything works, but ubuntu server itself cant resolve names
[17:59] <TJ-> morning: The reason I ask is this... on my laptop the hardware switch developed a fault where it would turn off randomly... I had to eventually open the laptop and compress the physcial switch body... what had happened was the switch terminals were no longer making firm contact they'd become loose from wearing
[18:00] <morning> TJ: I suppose it still could be a physical problem. . .
[18:00] <TJ-> morning: I couldn't see any difference physically but since then its been entirely reliable
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> morning:did you look if there isnt like a bios flash for this problem?
[18:00] <histo> kaylee: so you'll have to install from git I recomend following the instructionis using checkinstall so you can easily remove it later
[18:00] <tcial> Could it be something to do with pulseaudio?
[18:01] <TJ-> morning: Also, sometimes, the link between the plastic switch you press and the switch internally can wear or break away so you don't know its not moving the real switch
[18:01] <morning> TJ-: I had such a problem on a previous machine. The switch would slide, but the little plastic flange inside broke off, so it didn't move the "real switch."
[18:01] <TJ-> morning: yes... I think it is worth investigating
[18:01] <TJ-> morning: let us know, either way :)
[18:01] <morning> lotuspsychje: Where would I look for that?
[18:02] <morning> TJ-: Well, I have an onsite warranty with Lenovo. So they'll come if I call them.
[18:02] <TJ-> morning: Even better!
[18:02] <morning> Yes.
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> morning:lenovo type?
[18:03] <morning> lotuspsychje:4170
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> morning:lemme take a look
[18:04] <morning> lotuspsychje: Standing by. . . .
[18:05] <end_guy> So I'm trying to get my HDMI port working on my laptop... but the system doesn't know when things are plugged into it. I've researced through Google and Ubuntu forms and found that I need to get nvidia-settings to handle it.
[18:06] <zykes-> wonder why my raid5 has so freaking large io wait :(
[18:06] <end_guy> nvidia-settings tells me that I'm not running the nvidia X driver and to run nvidia-xconfig, but nvidia-xconfig is not a thing.
[18:06] <end_guy> Command not found.
[18:07] <talas> Anyone know how to get ubuntu to recognise a midi keyboard? is there some configuration about this somewhere? It lists in lsusb..
[18:08] <TJ-> end_guy: You need to install the nvidia driver and enable it using System Settings > Hardware > Additional Drivers
[18:09] <end_guy> TJ-: I have the binary installed from nvidia's website because System Settings > Hardware > Additional Drivers (aka jockey-gtk) showed nothing to be installed
[18:10] <TJ-> end_guy: sounds like something has messed up. The nvidia drivers have to compile and install a kernel module to be able to control the hardware.
[18:11] <end_guy> TJ-: So when I got the laptop it chose to use my Intel display drivers instead and I had to disable that in place for nvidia... it was a pain in the butt.
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> morning:http://support.lenovo.com/en_NL/research/hints-or-tips/detail.page?&DocID=HT063249
[18:11] <end_guy> $ lspci | grep VGA
[18:11] <end_guy> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[18:11] <end_guy> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF106 [GeForce GT 555M] (rev a1)
[18:12] <end_guy> I'm not sure I remember how to check to see which display controller is actually using, does anyone else?
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> morning:not sure if its gonna fix your prob, but worth a try for sure
[18:13] <morning> lotuspsychje: For sure. I have to leave now. But thanks for your help, both you and TJ-. Best wishes.
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> laterz
[18:14] <tcial> Ah well, Guess I have to use the analog audio -_- Another cable behind the TV
[18:14] <end_guy> lshw -c video I think
[18:14] <jagginess> lol he said analog
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:16] <TJ-> end_guy: Ahh you've got one of those dual-video setups. You need a special package to manage switching between the chipset video (Intel) and the discrete video (nvidia)
[18:16] <jagginess> TJ-, like.. ?
[18:18] <TJ-> end_guy: The facility (low power internal video, high-power external video) is called optimus.
[18:19] <TJ-> end_guy: there's a project called BumbleBee that deals with Optimus
[18:19] <end_guy> TJ-: Right I have bumblbee-nvidia for that (at least that's the kind of package I think you're mentioning)
[18:20] <MoTec> How well does Bumblebee work?  I gave up on Ubuntu on my Alienware laptop a while back because the battery life was seriously short.
[18:20] <TriBeCa99> Hi there, I have a softRAID array mounted for my home drives on an existing 10.10 installation, but I need to replace all of the drives. I'm not really sure where to start.
[18:20] <TJ-> end_guy: Not having done it myself I can't really help you aside from pointing you to links that seem authoritative
[18:20] <delinquentme> so im getting this message: " Duplicate sources.list entry "  when running updates on my 10.04 installation ... and heres my sources.list http://pastie.org/4522800  any idea which is a duplicate?
[18:21] <TJ-> MoTec: "A service runs and waits for users to ask for 3D accelerated graphics. When a user starts a program using the special command optirun, the service loads the Nvidia driver, starts an X server using the discrete graphics (with the display disconnected from the actual screen) and runs the specified program on that “background” X server. Then it copies the visuals from the program that is rendered using the discrete graphics to a window on the main X server. W
[18:21] <TJ-> hen the program terminates, the service closes the secondary X server, removes the driver and powers down the graphics card – putting us back into the ~10 hours battery life."
[18:21] <TJ-> delinquentme: Have you also checked the lists in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory?
[18:22] <MoTec> TJ-: Thanks.. It'd be nice if I could get the 10 hours or so of battery life I get in Windows with Ubuntu.. Might have to check it out again.
[18:22] <TJ-> MoTec: It's down to Nvidia again... supporting Windows fully but not alternatives
[18:22] <end_guy> TJ-: It'd be nice if I could force my machine to always use the nvidia driver... I don't care so much about battery life if I can just get the HDMI/nvidia settings to work
[18:22] <delinquentme> TJ-, the pastie is updated with the whole error message ...
[18:23] <TJ-> end_guy: I'm reading this, it may help: http://geek.co.il/wp/2012/02/19/nvidia-optimus-on-ubuntu-12-04
[18:23] <delinquentme> like ln 45 and ln 46 look like they might be duplicates
[18:24] <delinquentme> OOH wait
[18:24] <delinquentme> 50+51 ... and 52 + 53
[18:25] <delinquentme> nope
[18:25] <TJ-> delinquentme: nope... do "grep 'archive\.canonical\.com' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"  ... that will show if there are other entries
[18:27] <delinquentme> grep 'archive\.canonical\.com' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[18:27] <delinquentme> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/lucid-partner.list:deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid partner
[18:27] <delinquentme> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/lucid-partner.list.save:deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu lucid partner
[18:27] <delinquentme> is a list and list.save .... are those supposed to have duplicates?
[18:28] <delinquentme> should I remove one of those TJ- ?
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> .save is a backup i belive
[18:28] <TJ-> delinquentme: There you go! You have the archive listed in the main sources.list and in an add-on... check "Software Sources" from the Software Center and disable the additional sources
[18:29] <TJ-> delinquentme: pardon me, you're on 10.04 ... use Synaptics ... Software Sources menu option
[18:29] <delinquentme> ok so im in "other software" ( tab ) and theres two of the same address
[18:30] <TJ-> delinquentme: I'd suggest disabling the latter
[18:30] <delinquentme> one which has ( Source Control ) at the end
[18:30] <TJ-> delinquentme: hang on...
[18:30] <TJ-> delinquentme: I suspect "source control" means the source-code link (deb-src ...) there's usually one of those for each "deb"
[18:31] <TJ-> delinquentme: just disable both of them in the Other sources, update, and test
[18:31] <headBanger> hey guyz
[18:31] <navatwo> Any idea how I can fix my min,max,close buttons? They swapped back to being on the rigth hand side.. :<
[18:31] <headBanger> how is ubuntu 12.10 for production use
[18:31] <navatwo> headBanger: its not released yet, so I would say its a poor idea.
[18:32] <headBanger> navatwo: i am really having issues with 12.01
[18:32] <headBanger> 12.04
[18:32] <DJones> headBanger: I would say ask in #ubuntu+1 thats the support channel until its released, they'll have a better idea of its stability
[18:32] <zaggynl> In other news, Ieciel and ACL is brilliant
[18:32] <navatwo> headBanger: new or old hardware?
[18:32] <headBanger> new hardware
[18:32] <Allan_> hey guys. I have a gt210 with hdmi audio. i am using ubuntu 12 and the nvidia sound driver is installed. it is marked at card2 with aplay -l. how do i configure the system to use that card?
[18:33] <TriBeCa99> So I have my home drives mounted on a softRAID10 array, but I need to upgrade to larger capacity disks. Is there a clean way to do this?
[18:33] <delinquentme> TJ-, looks like we're good!!!
[18:33] <headBanger> having problem with suspend and hibernate etc...
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> Allan_:  i had to install the 'pauvcontrol' app and twiddle with it to select my hdmi sound.
[18:33] <headBanger> thanks DJones
[18:33] <TJ-> delinquentme: great :)
[18:34] <TriBeCa99> Naturally I don't have enough SATA ports to have both arrays up at the same time
[18:34] <Allan_> Dr_Willis, will try that. cheers
[18:34] <navatwo> How would I change the -+x buttons to be on the left.. they magically made their way to the right side
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> pavucontrol pauvcontrol.. i forget what one its calld
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> !controls
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> navatwo:  different themes can move them
[18:35] <Allan_> Dr_Willis, what package is the pauvcontrol part of?
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> Allan_:  its own i belive.
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> may be paVucontrol
[18:36] <navatwo> Dr_Willis: nope, changing between the two doesn't work and I can't move them back lol
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> !info pavucontrol
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> !info pavumeter
[18:37] <headBanger> ok time to leave
[18:38] <navatwo> hmm, Dr_Willis I got it to work.
[18:38] <navatwo> Just "unset it"
[18:38] <navatwo> Strange though, I didn't actually change it before..
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> a theme set it and never unset it is my guess
[18:39] <navatwo> I'm using default haha
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> themes can have a script they run to tweak thangs.
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> not all thmes have that script, so they use the setting that was there
[18:43] <hellyeah> i am using ubuntu 12.04 why gparted is not over there
[18:43] <rustler770> No solution to Canon MG5320 wireless problem found, work around... move the printer and plug it in USB.
[18:46] <superfabbb> how can i add universe in repository?
[18:46] <hellyeah> root@hellyeah-VPCF136FX:~# apt-get install gparted Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package gparted
[18:46] <hellyeah> just write universe at the end of adrs line
[18:47] <hellyeah> superfabbb:  which version of ubuntu are you using
[18:47] <superfabbb> 12.04
[18:47] <hellyeah> just a sex
[18:47] <hellyeah> sec
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> !universe
[18:48] <hellyeah> check this out http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Precise_Repositories
[18:49] <superfabbb> i want to install epson dx4400 and the wiki guide say to add  universe component in repo
[18:49] <hellyeah> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Precise_Repositories may be it helps
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> its possible its allready added
[18:49] <hellyeah> Dr_Willis:  there is no gparted package here
[18:57] <s> sk
[18:59] <abyss42> How can one source a script from inside another bash script?
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> abyss42: the source command
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> shortcut for it is '.'   ie... . filetosource
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> or source filerorun
[19:01] <superfabbb> "You will have to enable component called 'universe'" how have i to do?
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> use the software sources tool, or edit the sources.list file by hand
[19:02] <Dr_Willis> !info gimp
[19:02] <joubin> Sorry butt in | Can someone point me to a proper guide that would help me create an AP on my ubunty?
[19:02] <tiger_> hey
[19:03] <superfabbb> i've ubu 12.04
[19:03] <CMO> Hi all need to ask if anyone knows any good app for windows to copy the hole operating system into a file the tricky part is i need to run it hidden from console so it need to support command line please help
[19:03] <superfabbb> where is this option in ubu soft?
[19:04] <ricky90> i love ubuntu
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> superfabbb:  should be a software sources tool or menu item in the software center
[19:06] <jagginess> superfabbb, it's the "update manager" somewhere in the menu, probably system/
[19:07] <abyss42> Dr_Willis, I get a source: not found error
[19:07] <Allan_> hey guys. trying to get hdmi audio working. i have tried playing a wav file through each sound device on the card and i am getting no audio. command: aplay -D plughw:1,3 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Right.wav   - the card and device numbers are correct as stated with aplay
[19:09] <shasts_> Hi all. my touch pad pointer has flickering problem. device hp dv6. anyone has idea how to fix ? I'm using 12.04 LTS
[19:09] <DreadKnight> hey... seems I did something bad and I'm not sure how to fix it "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with: mount: only root can mount /dev/sdc1 on /media/sdc1"
[19:09] <Allan_> DreadKnight, run dmesg
[19:09] <shasts_> being xorg.conf deprecated, any other workaround for this issue ?
[19:09] <Allan_> DreadKnight,  you need to be root to mount lol
[19:10] <Allan_> DreadKnight, prepend sudo to the command or run it as root
[19:10] <DreadKnight> Allan_, want to avoid that and just mount the darn flash thumb as a regular user
[19:10] <tangent3> hi everyone, my apt seems to be messed up, would anyone know how to resolve this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1151260/
[19:10] <subcool> could someone help me with a ssh public key?
[19:10] <centrelink> "Currently supported versions 8.04 LTS (server only)"
[19:11] <Allan_> DreadKnight, hmm, im not sure what manages policies in ubuntu but dmesg might give you more info
[19:11] <centrelink> I fail to understand the difference between ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop
[19:11] <Allan_> pastebin it
[19:11] <TJ-> DreadKnight: A line like this in /etc/fstab will do it: "LABEL=USB /media/USB vfat defaults,ro,user 0 0"
[19:11] <r4g> DreadKnight, add the "user" flag to fstab
[19:11] <Allan_> TJ-, doesnt that only work at boot?
[19:11] <DreadKnight> I only have /etc/fstab.d btw
[19:11] <TJ-> DreadKnight: You could use "UUID=xxxxxxxxxx..." instead to be sure it's the correct device
[19:11] <Allan_> fstab.d is a directory
[19:11] <DreadKnight> ok
[19:12] <TJ-> Allan_: no... if you're running the GUI the automounter will handle it
[19:12] <Allan_> ok
[19:12] <shasts_> Hi all. my touch pad pointer has flickering problem. device hp dv6. anyone has idea how to fix ? I'm using 12.04 LTS. since xorg.conf deprecated in 12.04, any other workaround for this issue ?
[19:12] <Allan_> hey guys. trying to get hdmi audio working. i have tried playing a wav file through each sound device on the card and i am getting no audio. command: aplay -D plughw:1,3 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Right.wav   - the card and device numbers are correct as stated with aplay
[19:12] <macer1> hey
[19:12] <macer1> how can I run extended ext4 checks
[19:12] <Allan_> any ideas?
[19:12] <macer1> my filesystem crashed
[19:12] <TJ-> DreadKnight: There must be an /etc/fstab surely!?
[19:12] <Allan_> fsck
[19:12] <macer1> and some files are corrupted
[19:12] <macer1> fsck says filesystem clean
[19:13] <Allan_> ok then it has no bad blocks
[19:13] <DreadKnight> TJ-, yes, found it
[19:13] <DreadKnight> last line is "/dev/sdc1                                  /media/sdc1  ext4  defaults             0  0  "
[19:13] <Allan_> macer1, well if the files are corrupted it's not necessarily still a filesystem issue
[19:13] <macer1> my git repo is corrupted, but source files are not. also system updates failed because of md5sums fail
[19:13] <Allan_> because theya re corrupted
[19:13] <macer1> but new files written to disk are corrupted
[19:14] <Allan_> macer1, do you get random segmentation faults when compiling?
[19:14] <macer1> huh, no.
[19:14] <TJ-> DreadKnight: Change it to "/dev/sdc1    /media/sdc1  ext4  defaults,user   0  0" although - it being ext - the permissions on the device will control who has access
[19:14] <macer1> I don't have any c++ projects atm
[19:14] <Allan_> macer1, maybe the files were corrupted when cloning your repo?
[19:14] <Allan_> i mean on transit
[19:15] <macer1> ahh no, it was started on my computer
[19:15] <macer1> also problem of new files being corrupted like system packages
[19:15] <Allan_> did you run the fsck on the right partition?
[19:15] <macer1> yes
[19:16] <Allan_> macer1, what abotu otehr partitions? they get corrupted fiels too?
[19:16] <macer1> luks: { lvm: { ext4,swap }}
[19:16] <macer1> Allan_, I need to check that. my seconds partition is osx.
[19:16] <macer1> I am now on live cd so can't access that
[19:17] <Allan_> macer1, might be a low level issue if there is. + dont you use a separate partitoon for /boot and /home ?
[19:17] <sulphur16> Ubuntu 12.04, laptop goes to standby because of broken battery
[19:17] <macer1> Allan_, /boot is on efi partition
[19:17] <macer1> no seperate /home
[19:17] <macer1> on lvm there is ext4 and swap
[19:18] <sulphur16> Does anyone know where the power settings are saved in 12.04
[19:18] <Allan_> macer1, try MDD, it's a low level hard disk utility
[19:18] <morteza> Hi
[19:18] <macer1> Allan_,  what package?
[19:19] <morteza> when I want to boot ubuntu 12.4 , I see just a desktop + mouse
[19:19] <Allan_> macer1, may pippoint some issues. also run a memtest and ensure that it's not a memory issue
[19:19] <morteza> other part can't load . how to solve it?
[19:19] <Allan_> macer1, it's a separate boot disk. mdd, i think it might be dos based
[19:19] <macer1> ehh
[19:19] <aloiece> hi people, first time here, so I'm not sure of how this works, but i'd need help with something?
[19:19] <macer1> can memtest be run from system?
[19:20] <Allan_> i think it's part of the ubuntu install yes. but then again if you're having hd issues it might also be corrupt
[19:20] <Linix> Guys, I'm having problems with install VMWare player in Ubuntu 12.04. I already installed it but it fails to compile. Any one can help me?
[19:20] <Anonymous_> this Ubuntu is good now days
[19:21] <sulphur16> Guys, How to stop a laptop from going into standby due to low battery?
[19:21] <morteza> my ubuntu has crash on boot, how to solve it?
[19:21] <Linix> here's the logfile, I'm not experienced enough to understand it: http://pastebin.com/wTtRKZBi
[19:22] <Anonymous_> where can you get Google earth on this Ubuntu
[19:23] <Linix> sulphur16: click on the batery icon and then it will show up with the options
[19:23] <macer1> can memtest be run from a running system?
[19:23] <TJ-> sulphur16: System Settings > Hardware > Power > "When battery is critically low"
[19:23] <Linix> Anonymous_ First Google result: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/install-google-earth-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[19:24] <sulphur16> TJ: There is no option selected there
[19:24] <TJ-> sulphur16: Not sure then!
[19:24] <fpoesc> Anonymous_ http://www.google.com/earth/index.html
[19:24] <JohnSmith> topic
[19:24] <sulphur16> TJ: Only two options available, Hibernate(Dimmed) and Shutdown
[19:25] <Linix> sulphur16: Is it going to stanby or locking?
[19:25] <TJ-> sulphur16: Same here. I can't explain that then!
[19:25] <sulphur16> Linix: standby
[19:25] <fpoesc> Anonymous_ Click the download button and then then depending on your architecture choose one of the .deb-packages
[19:25] <macer1> SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
[19:25] <Linix> sulphur16: Then IDK
[19:25] <sulphur16> Linix: The battery in this laptop is broken
[19:26] <sulphur16> Linix: So the power level keep hovering around critical levels
[19:26] <haker> Iòist
[19:26] <haker> list
[19:27] <Linix> I'm getting sick of this... I'll, once more, reinstall ubuntu 12.04... It's like the 13th time I do this!
[19:31] <DreadKnight> how do I give myself permissions to /dev/sdd ?
[19:31] <DreadKnight> thanks for the previous help, making some progress fixing the crap...
[19:32] <dildo_anus> hi
[19:32] <Linix> sup
[19:33] <Linix> dildo_anus: change your nick
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[19:35] <dildo_anus> white people should di
[19:35] <dildo_anus> e
[19:35] <dildo_anus> *black
[19:35] <nwilson5> anyone know, in the terminal, if you can append "date" to some file you're tailing? I.e. I'm doing "tail -f file.txt" but each line that comes out i want to see the system date/time appended to it. not sure if it's possible
[19:36] <dildo_anus> gayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagy
[19:36] <dildo_anus> gayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagyagayayaayagyagy
[19:36] <bzzzz> wow, really?
[19:37] <bzzzz> !op dildo_anus
[19:37] <DreadKnight> dildo_anus, I hope you die in real life
[19:37] <bzzzz> !ops
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[19:37] <Bish> dildo_anus, your lifetime seems very valueable
[19:37] <bzzzz> !ops dildo_anus
[19:37] <nwilson5> man spammed out my q
[19:37] <Linix> yey
[19:37] <nwilson5> anyone know, in the terminal, if you can append "date" to some file you're tailing? I.e. I'm doing "tail -f file.txt" but each line that comes out i want to see the system date/time appended to it. not sure if it's possible
[19:38] <zykotick9> nwilson5: append which is >> should work.  so "date >> file.txt" would add the date to the end of the file
[19:38] <Pici> nwilson5: multitail might be able to do that.
[19:38] <soliloquy1> I'm a Mac user migrating over. I've seen screenshots like this http://browse.deviantart.com/customization/skins/linuxutil/desktopenv/?order=9#/d31mal5 in which the menus are all at the top of the screen, like on a mac. How do I get this?
[19:39] <nwilson5> hmm well see the file has a new line written to it every X seconds it's some custom log for some process and i'd like the date to print out as i'm tailing the file, not just be at the end of it
[19:39] <nwilson5> i'll look into that Pici sec
[19:39] <zykotick9> Pici: multitail is for multiple file monitoring?
[19:39] <nwilson5> you can
[19:39] <Pici> zykotick9: Yes, but it can do single files as well. It does multiple files better than using tail on many files at once.
[19:40] <nwilson5> do tail -f * anyways or whatever files you want to see
[19:40] <xangua> soliloquy1: using the latest Ubuntu
[19:40] <nwilson5> hm
[19:41] <soliloquy1> xangua: I'm running Xubuntu - if I run Ubuntu's panel instead of Xfce's, can I install the packages to move the menus to the top?
[19:41] <soliloquy1> xangua: What are the packages called that do that?
[19:42] <crede> i cannot load firefox
[19:42] <nwilson5> just wanting to see the interval between lines showing up while viewing tail -f of a file though i suppose it may not be possible
[19:42] <nwilson5> without modifying the file creation itself
[19:44] <intr0x80> Is there a decent webpage the describes the currently supported versions of Ubuntu?
[19:44] <xangua> intr0x80: the topic does
[19:45] <Pici> intr0x80: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[19:45] <abec0> Hi. I have a nice drum sound during the login screen, then no sound a all. aplay -l does list my card. No pulseaudio there, but same wih pulseaudio...
[19:45] <xangua> soliloquy1:  indicators¿ not really know
[19:45] <abec0> 12.04 upgraded. If someone has an idea...
[19:46] <abec0> Oh, and of course, works fine in Debian squeeze.
[19:46] <kiraslaugh> is it worth it to dual-boot mac osx?
[19:46] <abec0> (no troll intended, just to say that hardware is supported, as also proved by the drum sound during login...)
[19:48] <alfredo> alguien que me pueda ayudar con impress
[19:49] <alfredo> help with impress
[19:50] <DJones> !es | alfredo
[19:50] <Pici> nwilson5: It looks like 'ts' from moreutils does exactly what you want.
[19:50] <Pici> nwilson5: i.e. tail -f filename | ts
[19:50] <nwilson5> oh
[19:52] <nwilson5> nice, thanks Pici
[19:52] <raven_> xubuntu 12.04 cannot login any more. every attempt is looped to the login screen again. auth.log tells me something about pam_environment input output error - any ideas?
[19:53] <ControllerSYR> by ssh how i can send file
[19:53] <zykotick9> ControllerSYR: scp
[19:54] <ControllerSYR> WHAT ?
[19:55] <DJones> !scp | ControllerSYR
[19:55] <TJ-> ControllerSYR: "scp <path/to/file> [user@][hostname]:<path/to/destination>
[19:55] <zykotick9> ControllerSYR: see "man scp" for some more details
[19:56] <ControllerSYR> thank you
[19:57] <Anonymous_> hello my new friedes of this new windows ubuntu.
[19:58] <guntbert> Anonymous_: Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[19:59] <konserv-> Startup Disk Creator doesn't work for me, when I try to add my .iso file nothing happens it doesn't appear to load or something
[19:59] <konserv-> Any ideas ?
[20:00] <zaggynl> trying to generate keys with
[20:00] <zaggynl> sudo dpkg-reconfigure freenx-server
[20:00] <zaggynl> no keys appear :(
[20:00] <abec0> I have no pluseaudio installed, but .pulse-cookie and a .pulse/ directory appears at login...
[20:01] <zykotick9> abec0: you are aware that gnome/unity basically requires pulse for audio right?
[20:02] <os_> hi
[20:02] <butter> hey guys - just installed ubuntu using wubi - x doesn't fully start and all I have is tty
[20:02] <os_> i can't find scp in repositories ..
[20:02] <zykotick9> os_: it's part of ssh
[20:02] <abec0> zykotick9: Not that aware, no... ;-)
[20:02] <butter> I tried to do "x -configure" but it says x is already running
[20:02] <butter> (I tried "x -configure" because it cannot find my screens
[20:02] <coldpizza72i> I have a samba server drive mouted on the client side but it says I dont have the permissions to put things in...
[20:02] <butter> (there are three, all connected to a triplehead2go)
[20:03] <coldpizza72i> I set the mask to 0777
[20:03] <kyle__> Where is the setting for which group has rights to audio?
[20:03] <butter> First how do I kill X server without it automagically restarting?
[20:03] <TJ-> butter: "sudo service lightm stop" will stop the X server
[20:03] <kyle__> I've got network users, I want to add their group.
[20:03] <raven_> xubuntu 12.04 cannot login any more. every attempt is looped to the login screen again. auth.log tells me something about pam_environment input output error - any ideas?
[20:03] <butter> TJ-: that's what I thought, but it started it right back up
[20:03] <os_> thanks
[20:03] <butter> I'll try it again
[20:04] <luftikuss> kyle__: Do you mean /etc/group ?
[20:04] <TJ-> butter: "restart" would restart it ... "stop" should stop it only
[20:04] <butter> hmm
[20:04] <TJ-> butter: unless you've got a stray X process from a failed start?
[20:04] <TJ-> butter in which case, kill -TERM it
[20:04] <kyle__> luftikuss: No, I mean a config somewhere to say, group audio has rights to the sound device.
[20:05] <TJ-> butter: typo correction: "sudo service lightdm stop" will stop the X server
[20:05] <kyle__> luftikuss: I need to add another group (from the network).
[20:05] <kenshiro> Hi, I have a slight sound delay in VLC (I use ubuntu 12.04). I had that problem in earlier ubuntu versions. I think the problem can be pulseaudio which introduces some lag to audio processing. Is there any way to safely uninstall pulseaudio from ubuntu 12.04 so it only uses ALSA or OSS ? Thank you !
[20:06] <luftikuss> kyle__: " The /etc/group file is a text file that defines the groups on the system."
[20:06] <butter> alright, well I stopped x
[20:06] <butter> x -configure failed
[20:07] <TJ-> butter: "sudo Xorg -configure" any better?
[20:07] <butter> same error
[20:07] <butter> I need to add a new mode to xrandr, because my res is 3840x1024 accross three screens
[20:07] <butter> but it says cannot open monitor
[20:07] <kyle__> luftikuss: Yes, I know that.  In simpler times, the audio device was owned by a group, and you could just add users to that group.  Now we have that monstrosity pulse.  I need to know how to let other users use pulse, without them being in the pulse or audio group.
[20:07] <butter> lspci
[20:07] <butter> oops
[20:08] <conley> How can I get a card reader to work? Disk utility recognizes it, but when I plug a card in nothing happens
[20:08] <TJ-> butter: can you pastebin the results of the command?
[20:08] <butter>  yeah I dont' know what to do...I suppose I need to manually add my monitor(s), then add the mode, then somehow get X to use this mode
[20:09] <butter> TJ-: how do I pastebin from tty ?
[20:09] <islandmonkey> Help please, SD card not working. See http://paste.ubuntu.com/1151351/ (it's the sys.log)
[20:09] <luftikuss> kyle__: I do not know the answer to your problem.
[20:09] <butter> Aye, forget this
[20:09] <butter> I'll figure something else out
[20:09] <butter> TJ-: thanks anyway
[20:10] <kyle__> luftikuss: The issue is the users & their groups are defined in ldap, not in /etc.
[20:10] <soliloquy1> Is it possible to install the unity app-menu without running all of Unity? I'm currently running Xubuntu 12.04.
[20:10] <abec0> zykotick9: Well, pulseaudio reinstalled, and still zero sound *after* the login drum...
[20:11] <islandmonkey> And also this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1151357/
[20:11] <abec0> The GUI says Dummy Ouput (free translation) in the sound section.
[20:11] <abec0> Any idea welcome.
[20:12] <abec0> Since I do have a login sound, I would be optimistic, but...
[20:13] <kyle__> abec0: Zero sound from which program?
[20:13] <abec0> All of'em.
[20:13] <kenshiro> Hi, any way to safely revert back to ALSA or OSS in Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[20:13] <kyle__> abec0: type groups on the command line
[20:14] <abec0> Not even a nice sound level applet on the «bar»...
[20:14] <abec0> kyle__: Ah!
[20:14] <abec0> That I like...
[20:14] <abec0> I have a «pulse» in there, but no «audio».
[20:14] <abec0> Should I...
[20:14] <abec0> sudo adduser ... audio ?
[20:15] <kyle__> abec0: I think you should, but I'm not positive, 'buntu changes what's best practices all the time.
[20:15] <kyle__> abec0: usermod -G audio -a abec0
[20:15] <kyle__> assuming your username is abec0.  The -a tells it to append the group, the -G tells it what group
[20:15] <TJ-> islandmonkey: http://askubuntu.com/questions/132100/errors-in-dmesg-test-wp-failed-assume-write-enabled
[20:15] <kyle__> abec0: Without the -a, it would whipe you all your other secondary groups (that would be bad).
[20:16] <abec0> OK ;-).
[20:16] <abec0> I try and report back in a few.
[20:16] <coldpizza72i> I have a samba server drive mouted on the client side but it says I dont have the permissions to put things in. any ideas?
[20:16] <coldpizza72i> I set the mask to 0777
[20:16] <guntbert> kyle__: adduser is much safer in that regard :)
[20:17] <kyle__> guntbert: I guess I'm an old fogey :)
[20:17] <guntbert> kyle__: :)
[20:18] <newan> Hallo, nach einer Neuinstallation geht alles nur meine hotekeys für sound auf einem thinkpad t510. unter 11.04 brauchte ich nur xfce4-volumed installieren und es tat. nun nicht mehr, was hab ich ggf noch vergessen
[20:18] <guntbert> !de | newan
[20:18] <abec0> Well I am quite old myself, but not to the point of not hearing sounds that would be there ;-)...
[20:18] <newan> sorry
[20:19] <kenshiro> Hi, any way to safely revert back to ALSA or OSS in Ubuntu 12.04 ?
[20:20] <GotSanity> I am trying to play youtube vids full screen on a nvidia twinview setup and they always display spanning both monitors. I want them to fill only a single monitor. Ive googled but am only coming up with an old bug that has been fixed 3 years ago. Anyone have any ideas
[20:20] <islandmonkey> TJ-: Which one would be my SD reader?: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1151372/
[20:21] <adam_> I have a mobile internet USB device (cricket) that gets me on the internet. I want to network this PC with another PC on network via a router.  When I plug the computer into the router, the mobile internet stops working.  Is there anyway I can keep the mobile internet device working while I'm plugged into a router used to local networking only? (No internet access to router)
[20:21] <abec0> I am now in the audio group, but... still no sound. Any ideas ?
[20:21] <guntbert> abec0: did you log out/in?
[20:21] <abec0> guntbert: Oh! yeah.
[20:21] <TJ-> abec0: My suggestion is to always investigate the log files in "/var/log/" .. Start "Log file viewer" and start off looking at kern.log and syslog for clues
[20:21] <abec0> I did, I mean.
[20:22] <kyle__> abec0: That's weird.  If you have audio on login, and you're in that group, there is no way you should not get it.  Did you log out and in ?  Existing sessions don't get new permissions.
[20:22] <abec0> (even rebooted...)
[20:22] <abec0> (even turned off the machine, being a bit superstitius here...)
[20:23] <TJ-> islandmonkey: I'd guess the Syntek since all the others are hubs. That info gives the device's ID 174f:1442 so we can find out which driver operates it
[20:23] <abec0> TJ-: I'll tail -f and grep pulse
[20:24] <TJ-> islandmonkey: Try this: "lsusb -v -d 174f:1442"
[20:24] <TJ-> abec0: Is the pulseaudio daemon running? "pgrep pulse"
[20:25] <abec0> TJ-: Yep.
[20:25] <abec0> I prefer ps aux|grep pulse, but anyway, it *is* running...
[20:26] <islandmonkey> TJ-: I wouldn't think it'd be that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1151391/
[20:26] <TJ-> abec0: Does pavucontrol show any output devices at all, or just dummy?
[20:26] <dasil003> does anyone here happen to have any domains registered at enomcentral.com?
[20:27] <B0g4r7_> What's the easiest way to boot into linux on a Macbook Pro?  I don't wanna install it, I just want to boot into it "live", and it needs to be native, not in a vm.
[20:27] <Jordan_U> B0g4r7_: An actual physical CD burned from the +mac iso.
[20:27] <B0g4r7_> +mac iso huh.
[20:27] <abec0> Only dummy. But I do have info about logs...
[20:27] <B0g4r7_> Sounds like the ticket.
[20:28] <TJ-> islandmonkey: That's a camera isn't it?
[20:28] <B0g4r7_> All I need to do is run badblocks really, heh.
[20:28] <islandmonkey> TJ-: And this message repeats itself over and over again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1151397/
[20:28] <TJ-> islandmonkey: So the reports aren't originating from a USB device
[20:28] <islandmonkey> TJ-: No it's nothing to do with the webcam
[20:29] <abec0> I'll have to paste it.
[20:29] <TJ-> islandmonkey: OK, that log was much more helpful, I understand now :)
[20:29] <islandmonkey> OK
[20:30] <TJ-> islandmonkey: can you pastebin for me "lspci -nn"
[20:30] <GotSanity> anyone know how to stop fullscreen flash videos from displaying on both monitors on a nvidia dual monitor set?
[20:30] <B0g4r7_> Playing them with something other than Flash might do it.  I like VLC.
[20:30] <islandmonkey> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1151408/
[20:31] <B0g4r7_> If it's youtube, you can uninstall flash, and it will fall back to an html5 player.
[20:31] <GotSanity> B0g4r7, I never had to do that before. this is something new
[20:32] <B0g4r7_> I had to get rid of flash myself.  It kept crashing my whole system at random whenever it was active.
[20:33] <GRISZA> hej
[20:33] <kyle__> B0g4r7_: You dont' have to opt-into the HTML5 beta anymore?
[20:33] <B0g4r7_> I didn't.
[20:33] <kyle__> B0g4r7_: Neat.
[20:33] <B0g4r7_> It just worked (in chrome anyway).
[20:34] <B0g4r7_> well, Chromium.
[20:34] <GotSanity> yeah but what about other flash sites like vimeo
[20:34] <B0g4r7_> I dunno about them.  They may not work.
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> is vimeo also flash?
[20:34] <GotSanity> yeah it is
[20:34] <michelfp> hello
[20:34] <TJ-> islandmonkey: From what I'm reading, what is happening is that a udev rule is firing to launch mtp-probe on some USB devices it ought not.. I'm digging into which rule we need to modify
[20:34] <B0g4r7_> To me, not having those is a small price to pay for a stable system.
[20:34] <abec0> paste.ubuntu.com/1151419
[20:34] <michelfp> how do i resize a partition in ubuntu?
[20:35] <michelfp> do i /need/ a live cd?
[20:35] <kyle__> Video Download Helper in firefox works without flash, it can snag the vimeo video down locally for you.
[20:35] <B0g4r7_> michelfp, I recommend gparted live for that task.
[20:35] <kyle__> Heh, html5 on vimeo http://vimeo.com/blog/post:268
[20:36] <aaas> Apache auth:  this page says I can allow local net/pass auth external  ( http://goo.gl/oyS6D ) second grey box , so I put this in my /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default file: http://pastebin.com/7EMBxb9u   but it DOES NOT behave as expected, is there another override somewhere else (doesn't work with AllowOverride none either)
[20:36] <michelfp> B0g4r7, i try running it, it asks me to authenticate then nothing happens
[20:36] <B0g4r7_> I can't wait for the day when we are no longer afflicted with flash.
[20:36] <GotSanity> true, but flash hasnt made my system unstable... just cant watch videos fullscreen for some reason. I was able to do recently but something changed (and im not sure about when or what) to stop it from displaying fullscreen on only one monitor
[20:36] <B0g4r7_> I guess you're luckier than I was.  Itr crashed me mercilessly.
[20:37] <michelfp> B0g4r7, i try running it, it asks me to authenticate then nothing happens
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> vimeo is down
[20:38] <B0g4r7_> michelfp, You dowloaded gparted live, installed it onto a cd or a flash drive, booted from it, auth'd, and then nothing?
[20:38] <TaJMoX> Help! Re-sizing windows is a pain! I only get like 1 pixel to grab the side of a window. Can I make this threshold greater?
[20:39] <TJ-> abec0: Your problem is caused because "roaraudio" (roard) is installed. It is an alternative sound-server to Pulseaudio, and therefore Pulseaudio cannot get control of the hardware
[20:39] <michelfp> B0g4r7, um i have to do that on live cd?
[20:39] <B0g4r7_> michelfp, you expected that you could resize partitions on the very system you are booted from?
[20:39] <michelfp> i can do that on windows, why not on ubuntu D:
[20:39] <abec0> Hmm...
[20:39] <abec0> That would be nice.
[20:40] <abec0> ;-))
[20:40] <michelfp> also, B0g4r7 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1151428/
[20:40] <michelfp> this is the message
[20:40] <abec0> apt-get remove --purge'ing now.
[20:40] <bekks> michelfp: Different filesystems, different behaviour.
[20:40] <michelfp> kay
[20:40] <michelfp> i'll boot from live cd
[20:40] <zykotick9> abec0: fyi you can use "apt-get purge foo"
[20:40] <michelfp> thanks guys
[20:40] <michelfp> C:
[20:40] <islandmonkey> TaJMoX: Perhaps you could give us a screenshot of what is happening
[20:40] <abec0> Can I ? I thought that was aptitude only.
[20:41] <TJ-> islandmonkey: the rule I'm looking at is "/lib/udev/rules.d/69-libmtp.rules"
[20:41] <Kihokki> It took about 4 hours and I've installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my mothers Macbook succesfully!
[20:42] <bekks> Why do I get kicked when joining #ubuntu-ppc ? :)
[20:42] <islandmonkey> TJ-: OK. Not sure what a udev rule is but meh.
[20:42] <TJ-> islandmonkey: Very end of the file; line after "# Autoprobe vendor-specific, communication and PTP devices" is the culprit
[20:42] <WeThePeople> would anybody be willing to help setup tor via vidalia on my comp
[20:43] <abec0> YEAH (Caps intended) !!
[20:43] <TJ-> islandmonkey: 'udev' is "user space device manager". When ever a hardware change occurs the kernel sends an event which udev listens to. It then passes that event through all its rules to find out how to configure that device for the user
[20:43] <abec0> TJ-: kyle__ guntbert : Thanks a lot! ;-)
[20:43] <TJ-> abec0: Working?
[20:43] <abec0> Anyway, if I catch the dependency-freak that had me install both when I wanted neither...
[20:44] <islandmonkey> TJ-: Yes I know what udev is just not what a udev rulee is/does
[20:44] <abec0> TJ-: Yep.
[20:44] <abec0> As a charm.
[20:44] <abec0> As it shoulld.
[20:44] <TJ-> abec0: cool... congrats :)
[20:44] <abec0> Zero line of log. Just working.
[20:44] <TJ-> islandmonkey: OK ... sorry. The rule specifies conditions that must be matched in order to do something
[20:44] <islandmonkey> But I'll remove the very last line of that and I'll see what happens
[20:44] <kyle__> OK, according to here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/TheAudioGroup ConsoleKit should change the ownership of /dev/snd on login.
[20:44] <TJ-> islandmonkey: in this case conditions are being matched for devices that aren't mtp which cause mtp-probe to run against that device
[20:45] <abec0> TJ-: Thanks again!! ;-)
[20:45] <kyle__> abec0: So what was it?
[20:45] <TJ-> islandmonkey: no, don't do that! I'm figuring out a change to tighten it up!
[20:45] <islandmonkey> TJ-: Oh sorry. I'm lost what you mean by mtp as well
[20:45] <abec0> kyle__: 't'was   sudo apt-get remove --purge roaraudio that did it.
[20:46] <gillie-monster> can some 1 help? building free computers free the needy and i am running across a lot of computers that have SoundMax Audio Device soundcards, no sound under ubuntu or kubuntu
[20:46] <kyle__> abec0: Ahhh ha!
[20:46] <Allan_> does anyone know if the hdmi audo is supported on the gt2xx?
[20:46] <Allan_> audio*
[20:46] <gillie-monster> i know it is for the radeon
[20:46] <abec0> BTW apt-get purge does exist ;-).
[20:47] <TJ-> islandmonkey: mtp-probe is the Media Transfer Protocol ... some devices conforming to the MTP specs can be handled by a generic driver in the OS. MTP is commonly used in cameras for transferring images easily
[20:47] <Allan_> gillie-monster, yeah but they are completely different drivers ;p
[20:47] <TriBeCa99> is there any reason my software raid array would stop working if i swapped the ports the devices are on?
[20:47] <KPG> In terms of licensing and Ubuntu's application policies, would forking an open source project hosted on Launchpad or Github and using parts of the code from those projects in an application submitted to the Application Review Board (ARB) for possible submission into the official Ubuntu Software Center repos be allowed?
[20:47] <TriBeCa99> and, for that matter, if that were the issue why the OS would fail to load despite not being on the RAID array?
[20:48] <TJ-> islandmonkey: I see the exact reason now... just got to check my maths
[20:48] <kyle__> TriBeCa99: Depends on how it's configured, but generally no, modern mdadm uses the device's hardware id.
[20:49] <Jordan_U> KPG: I can't see any reason why it wouldn't be.
[20:49] <TriBeCa99> kyle__ that's what i thought
[20:49] <TJ-> islandmonkey: I'll explain so you can follow. When you did that "lsusb -v -d 174f:1442" it reported amongst other things "bDeviceClass          239 Miscellaneous Device"
[20:49] <J3f> how to unnistall driver keyboard on my lap ?
[20:49] <kyle__> TriBeCa99: And whether or not the OS loads on a raid failure is depenendt on the init and it's settings. Ubuntu is supposed to let you configure it to boot even on raid failure, but I've got some systems that ignore that and hang on raid figure.
[20:49] <TriBeCa99> any chance i borked my install by starting a "rescue" operation off of the ubuntu install cd and not finishing it?
[20:49] <kyle__> (the raid is for /home, so it shoulnd't matter)
[20:50] <TriBeCa99> 10.10 alternate, i should say
[20:50] <TriBeCa99> yes, the raid is for /home
[20:50] <islandmonkey> TJ-: YYes, so there were other devices
[20:50] <TriBeCa99> but my BIOS hangs at "Verifying DMI Pool Data..."
[20:50] <kyle__> TriBeCa99: You can try dpkg-reconfigure mdadm
[20:50] <TJ-> islandmonkey: Now, 239 decimal is 0xEF in hexadecimal (base 16)... look in that udev rule and you'll see one of the matching conditions is "ATTR{bDeviceClass}=="00|02|06|ef|ff"" .. note the "ef" as one of 5 options that can match.
[20:50] <B0g4r7_> You;ll need grub to be aware of the raid, and install into the mbr on all possible boot devices.
[20:50] <TriBeCa99> kyle__ I can't get into ubuntu at all
[20:50] <kyle__> TriBeCa99: Ooh.  That has nothing to do with linux then.  Make sure your bios is set to allow the right drive to boot.
[20:50] <TJ-> islandmonkey: So that is why that rule is starting mtp-probe
[20:51] <TriBeCa99> kyle__ it is
[20:51] <B0g4r7_> I think it's a grub/bootloader issue.
[20:51]  * kyle__ thinks B0g4r7_ is right.
[20:51] <TJ-> islandmonkey: I suggest you do "gksudo gedit /lib/udev/rules.d/69-libmtp.rules" and simply delete "|ef" from that text and save the rule
[20:51] <TriBeCa99> so basically what happened is I started fiddling with drives, then plugged everything back in
[20:51] <TriBeCa99> so you guys think GRUB got confused?
[20:51] <KPG> Jordan_U: Does the Novelty section in the Ubuntu App Showdown Rules: http://developer.ubuntu.com/showdown/rules/ only apply to applications developed for the App Showdown?
[20:52] <TriBeCa99> the BIOS definitely knows which drive to boot first
[20:52] <TJ-> islandmonkey:  so that part will read ATTR{bDeviceClass}=="00|02|06|ff"
[20:52] <B0g4r7_> You might download Super Grub Disc or something similar and see if it can get you going again.
[20:52] <djskidd> I need to put some DS games on an SDcard, but each removable drive I put in (SD card and a USB stick) is read-only. The part that makes me pissed off is that it is read-only ONLY on this computer. How do I make it so that it can write to the SDcard?
[20:53] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: any chance you plugged the drives back into different connectors (thus changing the order that the BIOS discovers them) ?
[20:53] <islandmonkey> TJ-: Wow! My SD card just got magically detected
[20:53] <islandmonkey> Nvm about everything
[20:53] <islandmonkey> But still...
[20:53] <islandmonkey> !cookie | TJ-
[20:53] <TJ-> islandmonkey: SD card?
[20:53] <TriBeCa99> TJ- yes, absolutely, but I keep changing the boot order to put the right drive back on top
[20:53] <TriBeCa99> the other 4 drives are all part of the RAID
[20:53] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: Hmmm!
[20:53] <islandmonkey> Yes it was an SD card
[20:54] <TJ-> islandmonkey: OK... so has that change fixed the problem entirely or left us with another one?
[20:54] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: md-raid?
[20:54] <TriBeCa99> yeah
[20:54] <TriBeCa99> the sata controller itself is in ide mode
[20:54] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: Is the boot partition on the raid array?
[20:55] <TriBeCa99> no
[20:55] <islandmonkey> TJ-: I dunno I haven't tried it out because my SD card is working now
[20:55] <islandmonkey> Somehow
[20:55] <TriBeCa99> everthing but /home is on the SSD
[20:55] <TriBeCa99> which is the top drive in the BIOS
[20:55] <TJ-> islandmonkey: I think mtp-probe was causing constant resets of the hardware which caused udev to constantly fire mtp-probe which started the loop again!
[20:56] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: Does any part of GRUB get loaded by BIOS?
[20:56] <TriBeCa99> doesn't look that way
[20:56] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: You've tried holding down SHIFT as soon as BIOS POSTs?
[20:56] <TriBeCa99> will do that now
[20:56] <kyle__> Fsck.  firefox is being really falkey with java today :/
[20:57] <islandmonkey> But I'll remove the culprit line anyway
[20:57] <Tony_Stark> Does anyone know why Pidgin has not been working or connecting lately?
[20:57] <TriBeCa99> okay now i have a "boot: " prompt
[20:57] <TriBeCa99> oh haha i had a CD in
[20:57] <Jack_Evans> @Tony_Stark
[20:57] <Jack_Evans> I think it's a problem with libnotify
[20:58] <Tony_Stark> Jack_Evans: Is that caused by an update?
[20:58] <Jack_Evans> I am not sure
[20:58] <djskidd> Help, I have an SD card that is read-only only on this computer. I have to put some files on the card that are only on this computer, so how do I fix this?
[20:58] <gillie-monster> wtf?! alsa is not turned down or muted. why do none of these comps have sound?
[20:58] <Brady> Is there a switch making it read only?
[20:58]  * TJ- spanks TriBeCa99 ! 
[20:58] <TriBeCa99> nothing
[20:58] <Brady> A physical switch on the card?
[20:59] <TriBeCa99> i only get anything with an install cd in
[20:59] <djskidd> Brady, I fell for that the other day but I have flipped that switch in every dimension and its still not working.
[20:59] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: Which suggests that originally you managed to write GRUBs boot loader to one of the RAID drives
[20:59] <Brady> Then it is probably mounted in a read only mode.
[20:59] <kyle__> Brady: SD cards?  There can be, but A) not all cards have them, and B) naughty software can override it easy.
[20:59] <islandmonkey> TJ-: Wait no, it's still happening.
[21:00] <TriBeCa99> i couldfn't have
[21:00] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: unfortunately its my dinner time now so I have to go... but hopefully I've given you a clue.
[21:00] <Brady> kyle__, figured that was the first question to ask though
[21:00] <djskidd> Brady, so how do I mount it in a non-read-only mode?
[21:00] <TriBeCa99> TJ- i have to go too, but i didn't set up that RAID until after installing ubuntu
[21:00] <TJ-> islandmonkey: You'll probably have to try a restart to stop udev using that rule cached in its memory
[21:00] <gillie-monster> -rw
[21:00] <MichelFP> hihi
[21:00] <MichelFP> someone help.
[21:00] <Brady> djskidd, unfortunately I'm not sure. Someone else might be able to help
[21:00] <MichelFP> i have a raid1 disk
[21:00] <MichelFP> and--
[21:00] <FloodBot1> MichelFP: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:00] <MichelFP> :|
[21:00] <islandmonkey> TJ-: OK, I'll come back and tell you the results
[21:01] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: Hmmm! OK, from a liveCD get to a terminal and check what's in the boot sector of the SSD with "sudo dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C | less" ... you should see the GRUB text strings at least
[21:01] <islandmonkey> MichelFP: Keep things on one line
[21:01] <MichelFP> i have a raid disk, and i resized my windows partition down in 200 gb and add that to ubuntu; but it seems that i'm not able to allocated that free space into ubuntu
[21:01] <MichelFP> and i'm using gparted in the live CD
[21:02] <TriBeCa99> TJ- will do, thanks
[21:02] <erictr1ck> does anyone see any issues with running ubuntu on this ASUS setup: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883220155
[21:02] <gillie-monster> do only one operation n apply each time
[21:02] <MichelFP> and, for some reason, all my partitions are displayed as /dev/mapper/xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[21:02] <MichelFP> don't know why.
[21:02] <djskidd> gillie-monster, do i run that in terminal?
[21:02] <bekks> MichelFP: Which hardware raid controller is it?
[21:02] <kyle__> Any consolekit gurus who can help me figure out why a network user isn't being assigned rights to the audio device?
[21:02] <gillie-monster> sometimes i have crashes on livecd installs where i queue a bunch of operations
[21:03] <MichelFP> bekks: i don't really know
[21:03] <MichelFP> how can i tell?
[21:03] <gillie-monster> dlete the partition, click apply, create new, set size, click apply n so on
[21:03] <WeThePeople> does anybody know what a 'exit code 127' is in vidalia?
[21:04] <erictr1ck> correction... does anyone see any issues with running ubuntu on this ASUS setup: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883220155
[21:04] <bekks> MichelFP: You'd know when you'd have hardware raid controller. Most likely it is a software raid controller, and in that case, you simply cant setup a dualboot which actually works, since the "raid" is only visible from within windows.
[21:04] <zykotick9> kyle__: assuming ubuntu uses the same groups (they might not) - verify the user is in both video and audio groups.
[21:04] <MichelFP> bekks: i can dual boot
[21:05] <bekks> MichelFP: But you cant use that "raid" from within Ubuntu.
[21:05] <MichelFP> what do i do then
[21:05] <MichelFP> ?
[21:05] <kyle__> zykotick9: user is in neither, but can login fine.  According to the 'buntu wiki, console kit is supposed to change the group ownership of /dev/snd/* according to who's logged in.
[21:05] <bekks> MichelFP: Forget about windows driven software raid, and re-setup your box.
[21:05] <kyle__> zykotick9: I could just fix /dev/snd* to be world writable, but that seems an ugly way.
[21:05] <zykotick9> kyle__: well add the user to the audio group for sure
[21:06] <MichelFP> bekks: box? >_>
[21:06] <TJ-> bekks: Depends; if its dmraid (aka Promise fakeraid) you can for much of the Promise controllers
[21:06] <MichelFP> ubuntu novice here
[21:06] <gillie-monster> computer
[21:06] <kyle__> zykotick9: The groups for this user are all on LDAP.  I don't knwo what happens in the event of conflicting groups.
[21:06] <bekks> MichelFP: "computer".
[21:06] <MichelFP> oh right.
[21:06] <islandmonkey> TJ-: You don't need to guess what happened :P
[21:06] <MichelFP> and what do you mean by re-setup?
[21:06] <bekks> TJ-: Windows doesnt know anything about dmraid :9
[21:06] <zykotick9> kyle__: LDAP is out of my comfort zone.  good luck.
[21:07] <bekks> MichelFP: Reinstall, without any form of software raid.
[21:07] <kyle__> zykotick9: NP :)  It was either LDAP or WINS authentication.  And you can imagine how much fun WINS would be.
[21:07] <djskidd> how do I set this SD card to non-read-only?
[21:07] <MichelFP> ._.?
[21:07] <MichelFP> how.
[21:07] <gillie-monster> <- noticing Win7 n 8 are barrowing from linux
[21:07] <TJ-> bekks: It doesn't need to! dmraid is the Linux answer to the Promise raid drivers in Windows. dmraid knows how to read the Promise disk labels
[21:07] <MichelFP> wait.
[21:07] <MichelFP> i think my RAID is hardware
[21:07] <TriBeCa99> TJ- what am i looking for exactly?
[21:07] <MichelFP> because I have two 500gb hard disks.
[21:07] <MichelFP> that form a 1tb one
[21:08] <bekks> TJ-: We are talking about WINDOWS SOFTWARE raid - not hardware raid :)
[21:08] <gillie-monster> thats not raid1
[21:08] <abec0> TJ-: Thanks again. I'm calling it a night.
[21:08] <bekks> MichelFP: Thats a RAID0, not a RAID1, as you assumed earlier.
[21:08] <MichelFP> OH
[21:08] <MichelFP> sorry
[21:08] <MichelFP> >.>
[21:08] <bekks> MichelFP: And a windows driven raid0 is totally unusable in linux.
[21:08] <MichelFP> do you mean i cannot use linux
[21:08] <gillie-monster> check ur bios settings
[21:09] <TJ-> bekks: Precisely. fakeraid is software raid is what Promise RAID controllers do... and it requires the Promise raid drivers to work... which in Linux is handled by dmraid. I have systems that use it, I've had long experience with it.
[21:09] <Tenantry> I get windows chatting to me about "raid" too. Never happens when I boot into ubuntu
[21:09] <bekks> MichelFP: No.
[21:09]  * zykotick9 RAID0 the NON-RAID...
[21:09] <TJ-> abec0 good night
[21:09] <MichelFP> i just want a straight-forward answer >.>
[21:09] <pitchersduel> can anyone help? i am in the live cd of ubuntu and i think the install just froze or stopped
[21:09] <kyle__> MichelFP: A general rule is, if it's software-driven Raid or LVM, it will only work in one OS.
[21:09] <bekks> MichelFP: I gave you a pretty precise answer :)
[21:09] <djskidd> pitchersduel, how long have you been waiting?
[21:09] <MichelFP> kyle__: right
[21:09] <kyle__> MichelFP: If you want to use it in multiple, put it on it's own box, running linux, and share it as SMB and NFS :)
[21:10] <TriBeCa99> TJ- what am i looking for in the text that appears?
[21:10] <pitchersduel> umm prob 10 minutes if not more
[21:10] <^Mike> When should we expect 12.04.1?
[21:10] <wN> MichelFP: you were in here yesterday but you never answered any of my questions :P
[21:10] <gillie-monster> i dont know what board is in that asus, but iv used kubuntu successfully on similar configs
[21:10] <djskidd> pitchersduel, the install can take anywhere from 20 minutes to 2 hours
[21:10]  * kyle__ has a garganturaid at home shared that way.
[21:10] <djskidd> give it a while
[21:10] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: Well first off ensure you're reading the SSD (I said sda but you know best)... second, look for any occurances of "GRUB" or similar that tell you GRUB must have written that sector to disk
[21:10] <TriBeCa99> yes it's sda, i check with fdisk
[21:11] <TriBeCa99> i don't see grub anywhere
[21:11] <pitchersduel> wow really? i mean its towards the end...it was moving along pretty nicely
[21:11] <TriBeCa99> i don't see any words at all
[21:11] <djskidd> near the end it can slow down a little
[21:11] <bekks> TJ-: The windows software raid has nothing to do with the promise raid drivers :)
[21:11] <djskidd> patience is a true virtue while installing another OS
[21:11] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: Here's mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/1151478/
[21:11] <gillie-monster> mount /dev/sdx -rw
[21:12] <bekks> gillie-monster: wrong :)
[21:12] <islandmonkey> TJ-: Yeah so my SD card isn't being detected again
[21:12] <MichelFP> bekks: if this is any relevant, look at this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/59319743/Capturar.PNG
[21:12] <TJ-> islandmonkey: is the log seeing those messages too?
[21:12] <djskidd> does anyone know how to mount an SD card as able to read and write any file?
[21:12] <TriBeCa99> yeah... mine doesn't say GRUB
[21:12] <TriBeCa99> soooo. GRUB was on the RAID partition
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> djskidd:  depends on the fs of the sd card and what device is it..
[21:13] <TriBeCa99> how the heck do i get it back?
[21:13] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: So, if you are reading the SSD... then you didn't grub-install to it originally, or if you did, you've done something to wipe it!
[21:13] <MichelFP> bekks: did you see that?
[21:13] <islandmonkey> TJ-: Just coming up with the same messages that were coming up last time
[21:13] <djskidd> Dr_Willis, the filesystem is FAT32
[21:13] <TJ-> islandmonkey: And this is after you saved that udev rules file?
[21:13] <ekarlso> what's a optimal chunk size for a 3*2tb raid5 mdadm raid array running lvm ontop ?
[21:13] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: We write it from the liveCD
[21:13] <islandmonkey> TJ-: Yes
[21:13] <bekks> MichelFP: Then provide the output of sudo fdisk -l from linux
[21:13] <Dr_Willis> djskidd:  you should be able to use the mount command then.  and whatever options needed to allow permiussiosn to whatever users you want
[21:14] <TJ-> islandmonkey: It sounds weird... give me a few minutes to ponder it!
[21:14] <MichelFP> bekks: ok
[21:14] <Error404NotFound> Not strictly relevant to ubuntu but can i use --parallel and --use-pget at the same time with lftp?
[21:14] <MichelFP> bekks: i'll be right back
[21:14] <islandmonkey> TJ-: OK
[21:14] <lauratika> how can i check mhz of my ram via terminal?
[21:14] <djskidd> Dr_Willis sorry I'm a bit of a newbie to Terminal, how do I use the mount command?
[21:14] <TriBeCa99> TJ- great! how do I write it from the LiveCD?
[21:14] <bekks> lauratika: Maybe dmidecode show it.
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> !mount | djskidd
[21:15] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: quite easily... if I can remember the obscure grub-setup sequence to do it!
[21:15] <TriBeCa99> :p
[21:15] <michelfp> bekks, what was the command again?
[21:15] <michelfp> fdisk -l?
[21:16] <lauratika> nope
[21:16] <gillie-monster> any one have experience with sound issues?
[21:17] <TriBeCa99> does this seem right? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[21:17] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: read up on this, it tells you the steps: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Fixing_a_Broken_System
[21:18] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: What you need to do is get everything mounted and the parameters correct for using grub-install <params>
[21:19] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: You need to follow steps 1-6 of "Reinstall from the LiveCD"
[21:19] <TriBeCa99> working on it
[21:20] <zykotick9> TJ-: oh how i miss the chroot instructions from the old !grub2 wiki link... :(..
[21:20] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: take your time... especially when you mount to /mnt/ do a check for /mnt/boot/ and make sure you see the ubuntu kernels and config files there
[21:20] <djskidd> okay, I know how to mount, now how do I mount it with all the permissions?
[21:20] <TJ-> zykotick9: I know... in these cases I'm always tempted to just dd my saved boot-sector (384 bytes)
[21:21] <gillie-monster> the -rw switch
[21:21] <gillie-monster> !mount /dev/sd"x" -rw
[21:22] <michelfp> :C
[21:22] <tomasita_> / join#valencia
[21:22] <michelfp> bekks, for some reason my ubuntu isn't installed on /dev/sda
[21:22] <TriBeCa99> installation finished, no error reported
[21:22] <michelfp> it's installed on /dev/mapper
[21:22] <TriBeCa99> so now i reboot without the live CD and pray?
[21:23] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: do that test I showed you again to be sure its there
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> djskidd:  or see examples fat15/fat32 here -->  but thats a fstab entry. but the options are the same
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[21:23] <michelfp> someone help. my ubuntu is installed on /dev/mapper.
[21:23] <TriBeCa99> yeah it's there
[21:23] <michelfp> not on /dev/sda.
[21:23] <gillie-monster> sda is ur first hard drive
[21:23] <michelfp> i said
[21:24] <michelfp> i don't have an sda, only dev/mapper
[21:24] <TJ-> islandmonkey: how you getting on?
[21:24] <WeThePeople> what does the app section mean? Launching Vidalia from: /usr/sbin
 /usr/sbin/start-tor-browser: 218: ./App/vidalia: not found
[21:24] <paul__> how do I bring up more than 1 desktop in Pinguy OS with Gnome?
[21:24] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: give it a go then
[21:24] <gillie-monster> this will create a dir for the sd card (you need to determin what number it is)
[21:24] <islandmonkey> TJ-: Still not being detected
[21:24] <Goldwing> Q: how to i force pppd to allways use ppp0 for my inet connection?
[21:25] <TJ-> islandmonkey: is the log still being filled with messages?
[21:25] <Goldwing> to = do
[21:25] <islandmonkey> TJ-: Still not being detected
[21:25] <islandmonkey> Whoops
[21:25] <islandmonkey> nvm
[21:25] <islandmonkey> TJ-: Yes. Still being flooded
[21:25] <TJ-> islandmonkey: do this "sudo modprobe -r ums_realtek"
[21:26] <zykotick9> paul__: pinguy os isn't supported here
 any idea whereI can go?
[21:26] <michelfp> sorry. uninstalling ubuntu
[21:26] <michelfp> raid0 has brought me too much trouble
[21:26] <paul__> I thought it was ubuntu
[21:26] <|johnny|> I wanted to ask you guys if some glitches with Unity have been fixed. I stopped using Unity a while ago because there were glitches like when I would close an app, the app would just disappear and not minimize correctly.
[21:26] <michelfp> that i can't be arsed enough to fix it
[21:27] <TriBeCa99> wooooooo it booted
[21:27] <TriBeCa99> tytyty TJ-
[21:27] <Goldwing> michelfp : ubuntu server on a raid0 with LVM.. works just fine
[21:27] <TJ-> michelfp: sounds like, unfortunately, its Windows non-standard stuff causing the issues
[21:27] <|johnny|> I have used LUbuntu for the past 2 distros that came out but would it be ok to switch back to Unity if I wanted to try it out?
[21:27] <TriBeCa99> and the RAID is working
[21:27] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: well done :)
[21:27] <TriBeCa99> okay so here's my next question
[21:27] <kyle__> michelfp: Seriously, raid0 is not a good thing to use.  Way too dangerous IMO.  Drives die.
[21:27] <Dr_Willis> |johnny|:  try it and see.. ive not any issues with it.
[21:27] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: uhoh
[21:27] <adrianodasilvapr> socorro
[21:27] <TriBeCa99> I need to upgrade the disks on the RAID10
[21:27] <adrianodasilvapr> ajuda
[21:28] <TriBeCa99> which are currently mounted to /home
[21:28] <Goldwing> whooops... raid0 ...no i mean raid1
[21:28] <adrianodasilvapr> alguem pode me ajudar
[21:28] <TriBeCa99> I have 6 SATA ports
[21:28] <michelfp> adrianodasilvapr, ingles
[21:28] <TJ-> kyle__: agreed... with 2 drives, RAID 1 mirrors is the way to go
[21:28] <wN> michelfp: im going to stab you :P i already told you that /dev/mapper means that it was built on lvm or dm-raid
[21:28] <kyle__> michelfp: If you have 4+ drives, raid5, or better yet raid6.  Well supported in linux and ubuntu, pretty fast, very safe.
[21:28] <|johnny|> Dr_Willis, ok I guess I'll give it a shot. :) If I have any issues I'll be back.
[21:28] <islandmonkey> TJ-: nvm, I need some sleep.
[21:28] <adrianodasilvapr> brasileiros
[21:28] <kyle__> TJ-: I've got raid6 on 4 2TB drives right now.  I have another two or three to add in the mix, haven't yet.
[21:29] <TJ-> islandmonkey: There's a simple perm fix I can give you
[21:29] <islandmonkey> It still ain't working BTW
[21:29] <kyle__> TJ-: It's kindof neat knowing I can loose any two drives, and not loose any data.
[21:29] <Goldwing> Q: how do i force pppd to allways use ppp0 for my inet connection?
[21:29] <TriBeCa99> So what is the cleanest way to do this? I'm thinking maybe pull 2 of the old RAID disks out and put 2 new ones in. Create a degraded array on the new disks, remount /home on them, then pull the old disks and put the new ones in and rebuild?
[21:29] <islandmonkey> TJ-: Yes what's that
[21:29] <djskidd> gah, this is not working
[21:29] <djskidd> I think that I am doing something wrong for sure.
[21:30] <adrianodasilvapr> I need help
[21:31] <TJ-> islandmonkey: OK... the SD-car dnot working will be caused by that change you made to the udev file. I'd suggest 1) undoing that change (add back "|ef") and 2) blacklisting the ums_realtek driver permanently by doing  echo "blacklist ums_realtek" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ums_realtek.conf
[21:31] <deadmund> adrianodasilvapr: with what?
[21:31] <fidel> !ask > adrianodasilvapr
[21:32] <TriBeCa99> TJ- any other suggestions? I'm going to do this tomorrow but I want to come in with the right plan.
[21:32] <adrianodasilvapr> was installing the terminal sudo openoffice and energy fell
[21:32] <TJ-> islandmonkey: after a restart the messages will stop and udev will go back to mounting the SD-Card
[21:32] <blakes> with the gnome desktop, I could add/install new desktop menu items in /usr/share/applications/[program].desktop.  Is there an equivalent with the 12.04 (unity?) desktop
[21:32] <islandmonkey> TJ-: OK I shall do that tmrw
[21:32] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: That sounds like a good idea... just make sure *before* you go the degraded-array route...
[21:33] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: ... that you boot in recovery mode (root user) and comment out the /home mount from /etc/fstab temporarily, because Ubuntu has a *problem* booting with degraded arrays
[21:33] <blakes> for instance, I need to install an app for standardized student testing and it just needs a launcher.  I can make that launcher on MY desktop, but how the f* do I make it a launcher that everyone has?
[21:33] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: Once the array is successfully rebuilt on the new drives, re-enable /home
[21:34] <djskidd> For the love of god.
[21:34] <TriBeCa99> just screenshotted that, i'll start with that tomorrow
[21:34] <adrianodasilvapr> was installing openoffice sudo and just by the power before you finish installing now when I try again the error.
[21:34] <TriBeCa99> so ubuntu won't boot with two drives missing?
[21:34] <djskidd> I use the mount command, and it says its already mounted. I unmount it, then suddenly the SD card doesn't exist anymore.
[21:35] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: so whilst /home is not mounted ensure you always start to recovery mode root user (or manually edit the kernel command-line in GRUB to add "single" to get a root single-user shell
[21:35] <djskidd> *pissed*
[21:35] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: There's a kernel problem with rebuilding degraded disks that boot relies upon... if mdadm gets a failed array message things get stuck
[21:36] <TriBeCa99> okay so i'll have to build the new degraded array from recovery mode?
[21:36] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: Yes... or as I said, by editing the kernel command-line to use "single"
[21:36] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: there is a better way of course
[21:36] <TriBeCa99> i'm all ears
[21:37] <Goldwing> Please?? someone? how do i force pppd to allways use ppp0 for my inet connection?
[21:37] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: because the drives haven't failed... remove one drive from the array at a time using mdadm so the array has fewer members but is always a good array, swap drives, add the new drive to the array using mdadm and so on
[21:38] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: Basically, if you can avoid creating a failed array you'll be better off
[21:38] <blakes> Ok how about this: none of the students have returned since I upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04, so is there a skel location I can drop a launcher to a custom app?
[21:38] <TriBeCa99> okay, i think i see...
[21:38] <TriBeCa99> so it's okay if the array is degraded, just not failed
[21:39] <TriBeCa99> couldn't i remove two at first?
[21:39] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: is it a mirror or something else?
[21:39] <TriBeCa99> it's RAID10
[21:39] <TriBeCa99> so there's two mirrored pairs
[21:40] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: whatever RAID level is... you can only remove drives to take it down to the minimum required for that level, if you want to avoid a degraded RAID boot hang
[21:40] <TriBeCa99> yeah, 4 is minimum
[21:40] <TriBeCa99> there's no possible way to get 2 drives into my systems without degrading the array down to 2 drives
[21:41] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: However if you've got those extra SATA ports... you could connect 2 new drives (assuming you have 2 ports free?) and add then to the mirrors, build, then take out the old disks... rinse and repeat
[21:41] <TriBeCa99> i have 1 port free.. port 6 has the SSD we just put GRUB on
[21:41] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: Grrr!
[21:41] <TriBeCa99> yeah. so i'm going to have to use rescue mode as you said
[21:41] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: If you booted from the liveCD you could use two SATA ports :p
[21:42] <TriBeCa99> but wouldn't the rest of the ubuntu install on the SSD be needed?
[21:42] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: that way they wouldn't be anything to do with /home/ as far as the running environment was concerned
[21:43] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: no... all the mdadm tools are available from the liveCD or can be apt-get install-ed into the running session (assuming liveCD has network)
[21:43] <TriBeCa99> hmmm, i have to run
[21:43] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: good luck, whatever you do :)
[21:43] <TriBeCa99> TJ- that's what I started with! but sudo apt-get install mdadm
[21:43] <TriBeCa99> decided to install postfix
[21:43] <TriBeCa99> and i couldn't get out of the first postfix config screen
[21:44] <TriBeCa99> it loaded a sort of old-school GUI in the terminal, and i could only scroll up and down but couldn't find a way to quit out or do anything
[21:44] <TriBeCa99> maybe i just need a newer liveCD than 10.10?
[21:45] <djskidd> Screw this, I'm just uploading the ROMs to Dropbox. I'll put them on the SD card on my Windows machine.
[21:46] <TriBeCa99> ahh well i seriously need to go, i'll fiddle with it tomorrow. thanks again for your help
[21:46] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: goodnight :)
[21:46] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: 12.04 would be good :p
[21:46] <TriBeCa99> oh wait, my wife just texted--she got home and relieved the sitter so i don't have to
[21:47] <TriBeCa99> so 12.04 liveCD even though the machine is sitll 10.10?
[21:47] <C8H10N4O2> any free screensharing apps for linux?
[21:47] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: Well I do! I have to make dinner its 22:46 here and I haven't eaten since breakfast and my partner is complaining !
[21:47] <C8H10N4O2> join.me, teamviewer, showscreen.com, all paid and or not for linux
[21:47] <TriBeCa99> okay, well get to your dinner then :)
[21:47] <adrianodasilvapr> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/openoffice_3.4~precise_i386.deb: a tentar sobre-escrever '/usr/share/mimelnk/application/openoffice.org3-ms-powerpoint-presentation.desktop', que também está no pacote openoffice.org-debian-menus 3.4-9590
[21:47] <TJ-> TriBeCa99: No! I thought you meant upgrade the system whilst you were at it. Stick with like-for-like
[21:48] <Jordan_U> TriBeCa99: Ubuntu 10.10 is no longer supported.
[21:50] <gillie-monster> is 10.04?
[21:51] <berefeira> Pangolin running great on my netbook MSI U100
[21:52] <gillie-monster> 12.04 is the best yet
[21:53] <Jordan_U> gillie-monster: Yes, because it's LTS.
[21:53] <TriBeCa99> okay okay, i just ran apt-get upgrade, looks like 11.4 is on its way in
[21:53] <TriBeCa99> then if i run it again i'll get 12.4?
[21:53] <Jordan_U> gillie-monster: (That was in response to "is 10.04? [supported]")
[21:54] <gillie-monster> ive had nothing but headaches trying to ugrade distros.
[21:54] <Jordan_U> TriBeCa99: No, "apt-get upgrade" does not do major release upgrades.
[21:54] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | TriBeCa99
[21:56] <TriBeCa99> well it did just upgrade me to 11.04
[21:57] <d4forze> hi
[21:57] <d4forze> anyone install x700 mobility
[21:57] <d4forze> installed
[21:58] <Jordan_U> TriBeCa99: What is the exact command you ran, and what was its output?
[21:58] <d4forze> ls
[21:58] <d4forze> shemalefucksguy.mp4
[21:58] <yumbo> Does Ubuntu Web Apps work with Google Chrome?
[21:58] <TriBeCa99> sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:58] <Goldwing> When i do a reboot, my server hangs on bind9, i allready figured out that it's a firewall problem, and i'm guessing i need to give rdnc access to the localhost (lo) interface
[21:58] <TriBeCa99> and it updated versions for tons of packages
[21:58] <gillie-monster> okay here is a brain scratcher for you guys. i have no sound in laptops that use SoundMax sound. This is not a mixer issue, i have no power going to the speakers
[21:58] <TriBeCa99> and now "about ubuntu" claims i have 11.04
[21:59] <Jordan_U> TriBeCa99: Are you sure that you didn't already have Ubuntu 11.04?
[21:59] <Goldwing> how do i fix this in a secure way? i don't need rdnc to be connectable from the internet
[22:00] <TriBeCa99> the update manager has been bugging me for ever to upgrade to 11.04
[22:00] <TriBeCa99> now i'm upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10 in the upgrade manager
[22:03] <yumbo> Does Ubuntu Web Apps work with Google Chrome?
[22:03] <gillie-monster> where do i look for help? i have no sound and this isnt a simple issue of volume control
[22:03] <datruth_> could virtualbox have HDMI audio?
[22:04] <gillie-monster> i ave kubuntu running in virtual box on win7 with ati hdmi n it works
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> yumbo:  they are a work in progress.. but i think they are supposed to work with FF or chrome
[22:05] <TriBeCa99> alright well i'm out, thanks again TJ-. I'll likely be back tomorrow... :(
[22:05] <yumbo> Dr_Willis: it worked in chromium when I tried it, not Google Chrome though
[22:06] <Kishi> Greetings
[22:06] <Kishi> I'm having some problems with Ubuntu packages
[22:06] <Dr_Willis> yumbo:  testing them in 12.10 here.. cant get them to work in anything.. ;P
[22:06] <gillie-monster> do u really want google spying on ur every keystroke?
[22:06] <Jordan_U> yumbo: #ubuntu+1 for quantal.
[22:07] <Kishi> When I download some of the packages, some Microsoft EULA pops up in bash console
[22:07] <Calthropstu> they already are gillie
[22:07] <Kishi> And I can't seem to continue from that point
[22:07] <yumbo> Jordan_U: 12.04 here though
[22:07] <andriuspel> just wanted to ask, there is any other codec pack? not gstreamer
[22:07] <aaas> anyone know of this htop/top like program which was a gui version that has collpasable processes (collapsing all threads of that process)
[22:08] <silverarrow> can anyone help me find /make a log report on what goes wrong with gnome mplayer and gecko in lubuntu 12.04?
[22:08] <aaas> it was like process explorer for windows
[22:08] <zykotick9> andriuspel: w32codecs or w64codecs from medibuntu
[22:08] <harris> i have a bcm4311 broadcom card how do i install and actrivate the driver for it
[22:08] <zykotick9> andriuspel: won't work for vlc BTW
[22:09] <Jordan_U> Kishi: I'm guessing that the package in question is ttf-mscorefonts-installer.
[22:09] <Kishi> It sure is.
[22:09] <zykotick9> Jordan_U: i'd guess the same
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> Kishi:  tab key to select the 'ok' button, then enter key...
[22:09] <zykotick9> Kishi: have you tried "q"?
[22:09] <Kishi> Oh, it works now.
[22:10] <rende> help me i just install 12.04 and I can't login!
[22:10] <Kishi> Thank you very much.
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> they really need to get away from that ncurses type dialog... it confuses people.
[22:10] <rende> It shows up the login page
[22:10] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis: lol...
[22:10] <rende> where I type in my password, I type in password and hit enter
[22:10] <rende> screen goes black
[22:10] <rende> see some text
[22:10] <rende> and then it goes back to the login page
[22:10] <FloodBot1> rende: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:10] <silverarrow> SOS
[22:10] <silverarrow> mayday
[22:10] <silverarrow> ...---...
[22:11] <rende> I know it works and I hve the right password because, I can ssh into the machine from another computer.
[22:11] <Jordan_U> silverarrow: Please stop.
[22:11] <andriuspel> will need to try to construct any pack, atm studying gtk and whole linux structure
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> rende:  sounds like X is crashing . Try to login at the consoles (alt-ctrl-f1)
[22:11] <rende> Dr_Willis, yes I can do this, but I don't know how to figure out what is making X crash?
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> rende:  and your video chipset is?
[22:12] <rende> Dr_Willis, I hvae it on another monitor now, the login to console
[22:12] <rende> Dr_Willis, my shipset is ATI Radeon 5800 series
[22:12] <rende> Dr_Willis, I have installed the fglrx drivers
[22:13] <silverarrow> Jordan_U: do you know how to find a log of what goes wrong when using a media player?
[22:14] <lordhedgehog> Anyone knowledgeable about setting up a RAID1? I've got it running and using both drives, but it will only boot off one of them.
[22:14] <Jordan_U> silverarrow: No.
[22:14] <lordhedgehog> Attempting to remove the primary drive results in a insert boot disk error on boot.
[22:15] <Jordan_U> lordhedgehog: Run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and make sure that both drives are selected as install devices.
[22:15] <lordhedgehog> Okay, I'll try that.
[22:15] <harris>  i have a bcm4311 broadcom card how do i install and actrivate the driver for it Dr_Willis
[22:15] <lordhedgehog> grub-pc is not installed. This is a server install...
[22:16] <Jordan_U> lordhedgehog: What version of Ubuntu are you using and how did you install it?
[22:16] <lordhedgehog> 12.04 LTS from the server install ISO
[22:17] <rende> I just can't seem to figure out why it won't start
[22:17] <meoblast001> hi. i'm migrating a system from ubuntu and i have some questions to prevent having to restore backups
[22:18] <meoblast001> i have an encrypted home partition.. i'm assuming i should change the password on that, but i can't seem to find the command to change that
[22:18] <Jordan_U> silverarrow: Can you pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep grub"?
[22:18] <rende> I can go into the console and type 'startx' but then it crashes and says "Cannot create listener.  Server already running"
[22:18] <lordhedgehog> meoblast001: The encryption password is actually a long key. It's encrypted on the drive using your personal password.
[22:18] <rende> THen it fails with a fatal error cause it says something about no sockets
[22:19] <Jordan_U> meoblast001: Do you have an encrypted /home partition, or an encrypted home directory? (The latter is what is offered in the standard Desktop install CD)
[22:19] <meoblast001> Jordan_U: encrypted home directory then
[22:19] <r0tha> Jordan_U: i can't unencrypt my home directory
[22:19] <r0tha> kinda sucks
[22:20] <Jordan_U> meoblast001: Then simply change your user password, and the encryption key for your home directory will automatically be re-encrypted with the new password.
[22:20] <meoblast001> ok, that's good
[22:20] <meoblast001> now maybe this is out of the realm of this channel, but if i install Debian and set it up with this home directory, will it be able to function with it?
[22:20] <harris> i have a bcm4311 broadcom card how do i install and actrivate the driver for it
[22:21] <Jordan_U> meoblast001: Why do you need to change it? Are you just following best practices about frequently changing passwords or did somethng get compromised?
[22:21] <rende> Hey guys here is the X11 log: http://pastebin.com/TnL9Mu7i
[22:21] <meoblast001> Jordan_U: well, i was afraid it might be some autogenerated one, then when i try to set up Debian, i hit a deadend
[22:21] <rende> That is the entire contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:21] <rende> THis is what it says when I type startx
[22:21] <rende> You see it is only a few lines, yet I don't know how to fix that error!
[22:21] <Jordan_U> meoblast001: Debian can use ecryptfs, but I would be surprised if it worked without a lot of manual configuration.
[22:22] <Jordan_U> meoblast001: Try asking in #debian and #ecryptfs.
[22:22] <meoblast001> ah, ok.. dang
[22:22] <meoblast001> i'll do that. thanks
[22:22] <Jordan_U> meoblast001: I could be wrong about it not being automagic :)
[22:22] <meoblast001> lol, #encryptfs is magic
[22:22] <harris> i have a bcm4311 broadcom card how do i install and actrivate the driver for it
[22:22] <harris> i have a bcm4311 broadcom card how do i install and actrivate the driver for it
[22:22] <harris> i have a bcm4311 broadcom card how do i install and actrivate the driver for it
[22:22] <FloodBot1> harris: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:22] <OE> Hiya
[22:22] <szal> !patience | harris
[22:22] <meoblast001> heh
[22:23] <Jordan_U> meoblast001: I thought there was an ecryptfs channel, and that that was the name, sorry.
[22:23] <harris> i have a bcm4311 broadcom card how do i install and actrivate the driver for it
[22:23] <meoblast001> ah
[22:23] <kirkland> Jordan_U: its #ecryptfs in irc.oftc.net
[22:23] <OE> I'm trying to install proprietary NVIDIA drivers through System Settings > Additional drivers. It seems that they installed correctly but it says that the driver is installed but not in use
[22:24] <harris> i have a bcm4311 broadcom card how do i install and actrivate the driver for it
[22:24] <lordhedgehog> Jordan_U: Do I need to install grub-pc? I've tried grub-install on both sda and sdb to no avail.
[22:24] <bmanuel> harris: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/
[22:24] <szal> harris: once again.. repeating your question over and over won't increase your chance of being helped
[22:25] <rende> bros, I found someelse with my exact same problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/143179/startx-doesnt-work
[22:25] <rende> so I"m trying this solution.  I will report back and let you know if it worked
[22:25] <Jordan_U> kirkland: Thanks. meoblast001: See kirkland's comment, it's #ecryptfs on irc.oftc.net (not here on freenode).
[22:25] <meoblast001> ok. thanks
[22:27] <gry> I had this issue, because I upgraded and chose to keep my old sudoers file. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/sudo-aptitude-problem-905784/ Is there some documentation on why the Defaults secure_path is now defined in the sudoers file in 12.04?
[22:31] <pitchersduel> ok i dont think this is installing right..its been stuck on the same command line thing for prob an hour
[22:31] <job> hi all
[22:31] <job> i have a lucid machine which seems to be in some dependency hell
[22:31] <job> see https://p.6core.net/p/n9eyzl0bzzmn18vz
[22:31] <harris> does anyone have hp pavilion dv6000
[22:32] <job> what does 'subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 245' mean
[22:32] <rende> terminal
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38327/how-can-i-get-broadcom-bcm4311-wireless-working
[22:33] <rende> I am happy to report that this solution has fixed my issue
[22:33] <rende> I had to do sudo apt-get -reinstall xorg
[22:34] <rende> and now I can login once again.  Something apparantly got corrupted but it works now!
[22:34] <ejv> and people wonder why this isn't the year of the linux destop, people reinstalling xorg! bah! :)
[22:35] <harris> bmanuel, it didnt work
[22:36] <bmanuel> harris: are you able to boot?
[22:36] <harris> yeah
[22:36] <bmanuel> do you have access to a wired connection?
[22:37] <harris> yes
[22:37] <Jordan_U> lordhedgehog: Can you pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep grub"?
[22:37] <trism> gry: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=639841 (the change was made to close two bugs listed in that report)
[22:38] <rende> thanks for your help everyone, have a nice rest of your days
[22:38] <bmanuel> ok.  did you try "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer"
[22:39] <isene> Due to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/996801 I would like to manage a workaround until the bug gets a fix. How do I reload the keyboard module in Xorg without having to restart X altogether?
[22:39] <harris> i just typed it in didnt work
[22:40] <bmanuel> did apt give you an error or the wireless didnt enable?
[22:40] <harris> i had to type sudo wodrope something last time
[22:40] <harris> and no
[22:41] <bmanuel> have you rebooted your machine?  it should help ensure all of the modules are loaded
[22:42] <gry> trism, thank you, that's exactly what I was looking for. :-)
[22:42] <isene> I have tried this (didn't resolve the issue): sleep 0.1 ; xinput set-prop 'AT Translated Set 2 keyboard' 'Device Enabled' 0 ; sleep 5 ; xinput set-prop 'AT Translated Set 2 keyboard' 'Device Enabled' 1
[22:43] <isene> Any other way to reload the keyboard under X?
[22:44] <harris> i rebooted still no
[22:44] <harris> bmanuel, what time will you be on until
[22:44] <kyle__> Google chrome is whining that my icedtea plugin is out of date.  if not icedtea, what should we be using?
[22:44] <bmanuel> unfortunately I have to leave about now
[22:45] <harris> but we have fixed it
[22:45] <harris> *not fixed it
[22:46] <bmanuel> I know.  I should have stayed quiet given my limited time.
[22:46] <bmanuel> Try the manual install of the firmware described on the bottom of the page ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/#b43_-_No_Internet_access )
[22:47] <bmanuel> Obviously you can download the files from that machine since you have wired access
[22:48] <bmanuel> start at step 2
[22:49] <bmanuel> I wish I could help more.  Good luck.
[22:50] <zykotick9> kyle__: using google-chrome with gnash is hilarious...
[22:51] <kyle__> O_o
[22:51] <zykotick9> kyle__: sorry iceteas is just as funny ;)
[22:52] <kyle__> zykotick9: Well, oracle java is not exactly well supported in'buntu.  Needs several hacks to make things work.
[22:52] <zykotick9> kyle__: good luck
[22:53] <laumonier> hi ive got a sound problem : ive no sound in my headphone and the sound from my computer is not disable any tips to fix that ? thank you
[22:53] <pitchersduel> ok well i'm convinced ubuntu install has stalled or stopped. is there a way to get out of it and re try?
[22:53] <zykotick9> pitchersduel: reboot?
[22:54] <plugwash> are old versions of ubuntu source packages available anywhere?
[22:54] <zykotick9> plugwash: trying to mix releases is probably a bad idea
[22:56] <plugwash> zykotick9, i'm not trying to mix releases, i'm just trying to find copies of older source packages so I can prepare an archive of source that matches an already prepared vm image
[22:56] <TJ-> plugwash: yes they are
[22:57] <plugwash> TJ- where?
[22:57] <TJ-> plugwash: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[22:57] <kyle__> Humm.  On a different note, I thought unity-2d was gone, and now plain unity was supposed to work even without 3d accel?
[22:57] <Praxi> hmm fieldrunners from the humble bundle shows up on the web site for the ubuntu software center, but not in the actual ubuntu software center itself.
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> kyle__:  thats true in 12.10
[22:58] <mirak> I can't print a picture and make it fit the frame
[22:58] <mirak> there is a bug
[22:58] <kyle__> Dr_Willis: Ahh ha.  I thought that was for 12.04.
[22:58] <kyle__> Dr_Willis: So in 12.10 it will cleanly fall back if there's no accel?
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> kyle__:  thats the plan
[22:58] <WeThePeople> lol i got tor workin :) :)
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> thers no fallback - it just uses some extra thing to get compiz to work in 2d
[22:59] <plugwash> TJ-, at that url I only see CD downloads and afaict ubuntu doesn't do source releases
[22:59] <ThePendulum> I don't have any pretty words for it I'm afraid: Banshee sounds like feces coming out of a buttocks all the sudden, where all other applications still sound allright.
[22:59] <plugwash> if I go up one level I see a repo with some stuff in it but not what i'm looking for
[22:59] <SaShKO> Who knov normal soung names for  Electro house???
[22:59] <kyle__> Dr_Willis: So, will it be usable in 2d then, or just not-broken?
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> kyle__:  thats the plan
[22:59] <harris> wodrope code that enables bcm4311 driver
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> harris:  you mean 'modprobe' ?
[23:00] <harris> yes
[23:00] <TJ-> plugwash: ahhhh.. you want http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[23:00] <kyle__> Dr_Willis: Harris has the klingon keyboard.  Don't tease him.
[23:00] <harris> what keyboard
[23:00] <MonkeyDust> Q'pah!
[23:00] <jagginess> wodrope that really is quite a misspell of modprobe.. yikes
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38327/how-can-i-get-broadcom-bcm4311-wireless-working
[23:01] <harris> no i dont
[23:01] <zykotick9> !broadcom
[23:02] <plugwash> TJ-, no that only has the current versions
[23:02] <harris> Dr_Willis,  this is to complex
[23:02] <TJ-> plugwash: sorry, gave you the wrong one by mistake! It's a different sub-dir on old-releases. http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[23:02] <harris> i am a beginner
[23:02] <TJ-> plugwash: sorry... I'm half-asleep
[23:02] <plugwash> TJ-, no tried there too
[23:02] <jagginess> harris, derp?
[23:02] <WeThePeople> is there a program that can make a iso, emphasis on the GUI?
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> harris:  i dont use that chipset. but theres 17 differnt answers at that site..
[23:02] <plugwash> none of them have language-pack-gnome-en-base_12.04+20120508.dsc
[23:02] <TJ-> plugwash: What source package/version are you after?
[23:02] <jagginess> WeThePeople, k3b and brasero
[23:02] <harris> can you help me though
[23:03] <harris> or how much is it to buy a new card
[23:03]  * jagginess says to use google:"List of software <type> site:wikipedia.org"
[23:03] <jagginess> lol
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> wireless usb dongle with Plug and play ubuntu support = $8 on amazon the other day.
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> Wireless Gizmo that plugs into the Ethernet port and works as a wifi conector. no drivers needed. = $40 at best buy. :)  (made for tv's and blue ray players and Game Machines)
[23:05] <TJ-> plugwash: the repos are accessible on these https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-gnome-en-base
[23:05] <sportsfreund> hey guys
[23:05] <harris> i need the old b43 driver
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> One issue with Broadcom seems to be the cards can use several differnt drivers, 'STA' "B43' and other Variants.
[23:05] <harris> i am b4311
[23:06] <plugwash> TJ-, thanks, i'd rather have the original source packages but I guess repacking them from a vcs is better than not having them at all
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> 2nd answer at that url gave how to remove the sta, and install the b43 driver..
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> remove bcm driver in softtware center. install the firmware-b43-installer package.
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> or remove the sta driver..  depending on what one is causing teh issue it seems
[23:08] <TJ-> plugwash: I don't see a release for 20120508 of that package; I see hints of that version for other languages releases via the -security pocket
[23:08] <harris> this is to hard
[23:09] <harris> linux is supposed to be easier than windows
[23:09] <plugwash> TJ-, well google agrees that it existed but all the places it found it no longer have it
[23:09] <jagginess> harris, it will be when more companies start adopting it
[23:10] <jagginess> harris, maybe you could buy a laptop/desktop with linux pre-installed
[23:10] <almoxarife> harris: for your distro is there a package called b43-cutter?
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> harris: remind me to tell of you of the time i had to reinstall windows to get .net working.....
[23:10] <TJ-> harris: Only if the hardware manufacturers provide drivers like they do for Windows. Broadcom have a terrible reputation for providing technical details to allow open-source drivers to be written for their hardware, which is why you are suffering with that BCM4311
[23:10] <TJ-> plugwash: I'll find it for you
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> Broadcom  = about the worse wifi maker out there for linux support..
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> If theres a  worse one.. I dont know of it..
[23:11] <harris> TJ-,  can i buy a new card
[23:11] <almoxarife> harris: another option, include the headers for your kernel just in case the kernel does not support your wifi
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> Can you buy a new card? You tell us.. cards can be bought yes..
[23:11] <harris> for how much
[23:12] <kyle__> Dr_Willis: When it works, it's great.  When they don't, they're a nightmare.  Also, their bluetooth options are pretty solid.
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> harris:  i mentioned earlier seeing dongles for as low as $8    other gizmos up to $40, most likely some wifi cards are more...
[23:12] <TJ-> plugwash: I see it here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-pack-gnome-en-base/+publishinghistory and if you expand the triangle against 2012-08-03 you'll see it was removed from disk as superseded on August 10th
[23:12] <TJ-> plugwash: that makes me think it'll be on one of the mirror servers
[23:13] <harris> what kind should i buy for hp pavilion dv6000 and how do i put it in
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> harris:  usb dongle plugs right into the usb port...
[23:13] <harris> no the actual card
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> harris:  flip laptop over.. remove bay cover.. unplug card.. plug in new..
[23:14] <harris> will anyone work
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> no idea..
[23:14] <lordhedgehog> I've made progress on my RAID1. bootinfoscript reports that one drive has Boot files /efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi and the other has /grub/grub.cfg. Anyone know if that's why one won't boot and how to change it?
[23:15] <plugwash> TJ-, finally THANK YOU
[23:15] <plugwash> that publishing history page has a download link for it!
[23:16] <TJ-> plugwash: Yes... I forgot to scroll down LOL
[23:17] <harris> i hate linux!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:17] <harris> nothing is working
[23:17] <jagginess> !ops harris trolling
[23:17] <jagginess> you just rant. that's all you do harris.
[23:18] <TJ-> harris: Rather like a car... if it won't run on your preferred fuel... try other fuel or get another make/model
[23:18] <harris> your a jerk  jagginess  i am only a kid
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> Belkin N150 Micro Wireless USB Adapter  $13 - Hmm.. Gonna have to see how well that is supported in Linux.
[23:18] <varunpr97> i guess i have that..
[23:18] <Dr_Willis> harris:  act more like an adult and you will get better help.
[23:18] <CookieM> harris everything works if you think
[23:19] <harris> no CookieM  not my wifi
[23:19] <TJ-> Most laptop internal wifi cards use a standard mini-PCI connector so you can simply plug in a replacement Wifi unit. The antenna connectors are standard
[23:19] <jagginess> and not a very bright one.
[23:19] <jagginess> I wonder why L.Torvalds got 600,000 euros if linux really does suck.
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> harris:  and tell us exactly what have you done to try to get your wifi going? what driver are you using now for it... what other ones have you tried...
[23:20] <CookieM> harris before you buy any hardware check if it is compatible with linux
[23:20] <harris> dr_willis there are no drivers installed
[23:20] <k1l> !rootirc > root_
[23:20] <TJ-> Most of driver problems come from getting several versions mixed up due to the mass of contradictory tutorials
[23:20] <cabotmoose> hi, i just installed ubuntu v12.04 on my early 2011 macbook pro and when I try to boot I get stuck at the penguin screen. i've let it sit for several minutes and it does not do anything. any advice?
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> harris:  then you should try installing some..
[23:20] <harris> what one
[23:21] <varunpr97> cabotmoose: sit there fr hours :P
[23:21] <VriendP> Evening
[23:21] <TJ-> Doesn't jockey handle the BCM4311 ?
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> harris:  from that url i pasted.. seems theres 3 to try.. bcmwl-kernel-source  is the one installed by default.
[23:21] <cabotmoose> varunpr97: lol really?
[23:22] <VriendP> Is it possible to get banned from EFNet by simply testing several irc clients?
[23:22] <jagginess> VriendP, #freenode .
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> VriendP:  we have no idea about efnet here.. this is dalnet.
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> err. freenode. ;)
[23:22] <VriendP> lol
[23:22] <TJ-> eh? this is freenode!
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> ;P made you look TJ- !
[23:22] <mrdigital> help needed wrt port forwarding my zyxel for ssh
[23:22] <VriendP> I'm new here. In fact, I'm new everywhere :D
[23:22] <VriendP> My apologies :)
[23:22] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: made me think I'd just eaten 'funny' mushrooms :p
[23:22] <mrdigital> help needed wrt port forwarding my zyxel for ssh
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> TJ-:  your milk has expired...
[23:23] <varunpr97> /msg cabotmoose
[23:23] <varunpr97> in your grub menu where you can select your kernel , add the following each on a new line
[23:23] <varunpr97> outb 0x728 1
[23:23] <varunpr97> outb 0x710 2
[23:23] <varunpr97> outb 0x740 2
[23:23] <FloodBot1> varunpr97: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:23] <varunpr97> outb 0x740 0
[23:23] <TJ-> mrdigital: You'll need to set up a port-forwarding rule on the router to forward public tcp port 22 to the IP address of your PC at port 22
[23:24] <mrdigital> thanks i have done that already still does not work
[23:24] <TJ-> mrdigital: How are you testing it?
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> harris:  somthing to try --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/139168/dell-1390-wireless-bcm4311-ubuntu-12-04-no-wireless-icon-in-unity
[23:24] <mrdigital> nmap
[23:24] <TJ-> mrdigital: you have openssh-server installed on the PC and listening on port 22?
[23:24] <mrdigital> yes
[23:24] <jagginess> Dr_Willis, reading is hard. ;-)
[23:24] <jagginess> Dr_Willis, freenode!
[23:24] <berefeira> broadcom is the worst, get an alfa and be happy
[23:24] <mrdigital> i can connect locally but not from my public ip
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> jagginess:  Luckly my IRC client talks to me..
[23:25] <TJ-> mrdigital: is it possible your router refuses to forward/or is listening on port 22? Try forwarding a different port number to port 22 internally... say public 2222 to internal 22
[23:25] <jagginess> mrdigital, use dyndns or somethin.. also it's possible your isp may be blocking 22, I know my isp blocks port 80
[23:25] <mrdigital> i have tried everything the internet had to offer
[23:25] <berefeira> TJ: it should work, i have it running on wrt-54gl
[23:25] <TJ-> mrdigital: What's the exact make/model of router?
[23:26] <harris> does anyone have b4311
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> mrdigital:  set your router to forward some high port. like 88822 to  port 22 on the lan machine.. is also handy.
[23:26] <mrdigital> how do you differentiate/tell from internal/external port to the router as my zyxel router only asks for start and end ports
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> harris: have you actually Tried to do anything people have suggested? like --->   somthing to try --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/139168/dell-1390-wireless-bcm4311-ubuntu-12-04-no-wireless-icon-in-unity
[23:26] <jagginess> Dr_Willis, noob. port# going go beyond 65536
[23:26] <MonkeyDust> harris  did you check out the factoid !bcm ?
[23:26] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: you're not getting me a 2nd time... I *know* port 88822 doesn't exist!
[23:26] <jagginess> (or 655535 somewhere around there)
[23:26] <mrdigital> yes done that too..i opened ports from 22 - 8000
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> TJ-:  :) ipv6 ports! ;p
[23:27] <jagginess> they don't go beyond that #port
[23:27] <harris> i did every you guys have said
[23:27] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: can't get out of it that easily :D
[23:27] <harris> last time i had to do this the code
[23:27] <harris> was some modprobe
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> harris:  but you said no drivers were installed.. so that sounds like you have done nothing...
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> harris:  the 'history' command will show what commands you have used in the past.
[23:27] <TJ-> mrdigital: What's the exact make/model of router?
[23:27] <harris> the default one is in stalled
[23:27] <mrdigital> zyxel p660hw t1 v3
[23:27] <harris> i had to reinstall
[23:28] <k1l> mrdigital: maybe better ask the (dd?)wrt support?
[23:28] <mrdigital> dd?
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> !info  bcmwl-kernel-source
[23:28] <TJ-> mrdigital: you are configuring port-forwarding? Any router that does that has to accept an internal IP address to know where to forward to. The only way only-ports would work is if, in a separate config space, you set a server that is the default DMZ server
[23:28] <Frostbyte> which log do I look for shutdown problems? (12.04LTS doesn't power off the machine, it stalls)
[23:28] <jagginess> harris, re-installing won't fix your bcm. It's a manual intervention and I've helped people in the past on fixing it. You need the nerve to do it but you don't have it
[23:29] <k1l> mrdigital: didnt you mention wrt is running on your router?
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> bcmwl-kernel-source - uses the 'sta' driver.
[23:29] <harris> no i had it fixed then i had to reinstall
[23:29] <mrdigital> do you mean that i cant check my public ip from the same machine?
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> This is when you keep notes ;)
[23:29] <mrdigital> or on the same lan?
[23:30] <TJ-> mrdigital: You can't do loopback tests from inside the LAN. You have to test from outside
[23:30] <harris> i have the default driver on and in the top network thing in unity wifi enable dosent show up
[23:30] <mrdigital> ah ok...maybe thats why @ TJ
[23:30] <TJ-> mrdigital: It works... I'm on your SSH server now
[23:30] <TJ-> mrdigital: ssh tj@host81-141-154-206.wlms-broadband.com
[23:30] <TJ-> The authenticity of host 'host81-141-154-206.wlms-broadband.com (81.141.154.206)' can't be established.
[23:30] <TJ-> ECDSA key fingerprint is 54:31:59:06:e6:1b:a8:2e:7a:25:bd:0b:13:aa:44:6b.
[23:30] <mrdigital> really?? thanks
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> harris:  sounds like you need to follow the directions at -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/139168/dell-1390-wireless-bcm4311-ubuntu-12-04-no-wireless-icon-in-unity   3 commands to cut/paste into the shell.. in the grey box...
[23:31] <cc11rocks> I am on my System76, which came with (think it's a loopback partition) the hard drive having a "/" (root) partition. Is there any way I can split this up into /home, /, swap, and /boot without losing/transfering/etc any data?
[23:31] <harris> where do i paste them
[23:31] <mrdigital> why cant one test public ip loopback but we can do the private ip loopback?
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> 'into the shell'
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> !shell
[23:32] <TJ-> mrdigital: because of how the network packets are routed internally in the kernel.
[23:32] <harris> it says it is already installed
[23:32] <mrdigital> thanks by the way
[23:32] <skpl^> harris: do you have a learning disability?
[23:33] <harris> that is offensive
[23:33] <TJ-> mrdigital: there's three main chains: INPUT, OUTPUT and FORWARD. You're wanting an INPUT on LAN to go to OUTPUT on WAN (which goes to your ISP) and then straight back in on INPUT WAN which can't be done
[23:33] <harris> i dont understand computers
[23:33] <TJ-> !polite
[23:33] <harris> i am a kid
[23:33] <n1ckn4me09876543> out of topic, but does anybody know what Transmission BitTorrent's irc channel?  I tried transmissionbt but its empty
[23:33] <mrdigital> ah i see...I had that doubt but you cleared it out thanks
[23:33] <harris> TJ-,  are you saying tjat to me
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> cc11rocks, Not sure why you would want a boot partition it is not needed, and makes things more complex, here is a separate home to it partition, again not really needed except upon doing a upgrade. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[23:34] <k1l> !alis | n1ckn4me09876543
[23:34] <harris> wilee-nilee,  what laptop do you have
[23:34] <TJ-> skpl^ The B43 stuff gets me confused so I can only guess at how frustrated and depressed harris feels. Don't expect everyone here to be able to graps things instantly that others have spent months and years getting to know
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> harris, I have two laptops and a nexus
[23:35] <harris> is one hp pavilion
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> no
[23:35] <Endafy> ok I am installing Ubuntu on a customer's system, with an nvidia card I need to set it to nomodeset and I get grub, how do I set it to nomodeset temporarily to install the nvidia drivers?
[23:35] <harris> what wifi cards do you have
[23:35] <cc11rocks> wilee-nilee : Why would I not need a boot partition? I've always used them in the past. It is basically for when you want to keep the MBR (Master boot record, Windows uses this as it's default booting software which you can stick GRUB and other booting software one)
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> Endafy:  edit the grub boot line, (e  i recall at the grub menu)
[23:35] <Frostbyte> Can anybody tell me how to troubleshoot my poweroff problem? (My 12.04LTS hangs at the loading dots instead of completelly shutting down)
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset
[23:35] <harris> i am pissed
[23:36] <harris> i need wifi
[23:36] <Endafy> Dr_Willis, I see that, what do I type
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> harris:  not whats so hard about running those 3 commands and rebooting to see if it worked..
[23:36] <TJ-> I don't know why we don't have a Debian package that automates the B43 install steps! We have to do it manually so many times!
[23:36] <cc11rocks> I plan to put Arch, Linux Mint, and another distro (testing one, not for production use), and keep Ubuntu...
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> Endafy:  change 'quiet splash' to be
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> Endafy:  change 'quiet splash' to be 'quiet splash nomodeset'  basically
[23:36] <Endafy> alright ill try that
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> cc11rocks, hehe a MS bootloader aficionado, why is what I ask, grub is so more reliable and can be purged and reloaded at a whim.
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> grub 2 to be specific
[23:37] <TJ-> cc11rocks: I'd recommend when you free up those partitions you switch to LVM. That'll allow you give and take space for volumes and file-systems as you wish
[23:37] <cc11rocks> wilee-nilee : I'm not putting MBR/Windows/other crap on this one. Could you answer my question?
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> cc11rocks, I did I gave you a link to seperate your home, could you cut the attitude this is free advice.
[23:38] <TJ-> wilee-nilee: the reason for a separate /boot is when you have the root fs encrypted, for example
[23:38] <k1l> Frostbyte: just as a global hint: did you look in the older logs in the /var/log folder?
[23:38] <Harris> I am signing in
[23:39] <TJ-> It's also handy to assign about 512MB to a primary partition for /boot and the rest of the drive uses LVM
[23:39] <Endafy> ok there is no quiet boot splash or anything like that
[23:39] <Harris>  Love you Dr Willis
[23:39] <cc11rocks> wilee-nilee : I don't have an attitude. I was merely saying I'm not going to put MBR/etc on it. Was an explanation and I would like to know why I should not use a  boot partition. I am sorry if I have offended you. This was not my intention.  I do appreciate your help in the link. I was only trying to be more clear
[23:39] <Frostbyte> k1l: is there a specific log I can look into? I can reproduce the issue right now if needed, (it mostly does that when it has a little uptime)
[23:39] <l3d> ok I am useing ubuntu 10.10 (yeah i know, but 12.04 is buggy as all on this machine) and since stop dual booting and was wondering if there was a way to skip the grub list and have it just boot in to 10.10
[23:40] <wilee-nilee> TJ-, not mentioned except in your responses why are you telling me this?
[23:40] <Endafy> why cant Ubuntu include drivers it already contains non-free software?
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> wow.. and i told him a half hr+ ago.. to follow that url...
[23:40] <phirestalker> How do I put a shortcut to a shared folder shared via apple file sharing?
[23:40] <Endafy> it causes so many issues
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> Legal reasons for a lot of them.
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> lack of disk space for another.
[23:41] <cc11rocks> TJ- Am I to use LVM because GRUB can only recognize a certain number of partitions?
[23:41] <varunpr97> ubuntu doesnt have non-free software...
[23:41] <phirestalker> drag and drop create link didn't work
[23:41] <harris> Dr_Willis,  i love you it worked
[23:41] <varunpr97> i guess u need to enable repos fr that
[23:41] <Endafy> Dr_Willis, the EULA from the nvidia drivers specifically say that you can
[23:41] <k1l> Frostbyte: dmesg and syslog. but the get rotated and renamed after the reboot. so its dmesg.0  or dmesg.1 etc
[23:41] <TJ-> wilee-nilee: you said "cc11rocks, Not sure why you would want a boot partition it is not needed, and makes things more complex,"
[23:41] <Endafy> Dr_Willis, would you like me to find it for you specifically?
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> Endafy:  i dont really care...
[23:41] <namoamitabuddha> varunpr97: ubuntu doesn't have non-free software -- I don't think so.
[23:41] <zykotick9> varunpr97: LOL - that's funny "ubuntu doesnt have non-free software"
[23:41] <namoamitabuddha> Dr_Willis: Sorry.
[23:41] <Endafy> well then why cant the drivers be included
[23:41] <wilee-nilee> TJ-, right and that is not you eh. ;)
[23:41] <Endafy> it makes installations a pita
[23:42] <TJ-> huh?
[23:42] <cc11rocks> TJ- wilee-nilee I plan to use ext4 for all of my partitions...
[23:42] <varunpr97> not everyone wants the drivers
[23:42] <Jordan_U> cc11rocks: Having /boot/ on a separate partition is different from installing grub's boot sector to a partition. If you install grub's boot sector anywhere, it should go in the MBR (not in a partition boot record).
[23:42] <TJ-> cc11rocks: put them inside LVM... you'll regret it if you don't
[23:42] <varunpr97> for eg. ati users may nt want d nvidia drivers
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> The  noveau drivers work good enough for my 5 nvidia systems now.. i sometimes go for several days  or weeks befor i realize im not using the nvidia drivers.
[23:42] <Endafy> 2.1.2 Linux/FreeBSD Exception. Notwithstanding the foregoing terms of Section 2.1.1, SOFTWARE designed exclusively for use on the Linux or FreeBSD operating systems, or other operating systems derived from the source code to these operating systems, may be copied and redistributed, provided that the binary files thereof are not modified in any way (except for unzipping of compressed files).   <-I see no legal issues
[23:42] <Squareape> Endafy, no problem here, no drivers needed for first boot
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> thost that had an issue. i use nomodeset, to get to a basic desktop to install the drivers.
[23:43] <cc11rocks> I always thought LVM was for server stuff (I put it in the RAID category of stuff)...Is it easy to set up the LVM?
[23:43] <Endafy> Squareape, I need to look up how to nomodeset just to get Ubuntu to boot on Nvidia systems
[23:43] <Frostbyte> k1l: dmesg only speaks about some mismatches, whereas I don't see anything specific on the syslog.. is there anything I can grep it with?
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> Endafy:  from the live cd? or an instralled system?
[23:43] <phirestalker> Is there a way to put a shortcut on the desktop to an apple file sharing shared folder? drag and drop make link didn't work
[23:43] <Squareape> Endafy, yes let's talk about real problems
[23:44] <Endafy> from an installed system
[23:44] <Endafy> it is a real problem
[23:44] <namoamitabuddha> Endafy: It could be attached in kernel parameters.
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> Endafy:  you see the grub menu when you boot up?
[23:44] <Squareape> details please ;)
[23:44] <Endafy> yes I do
[23:44] <Endafy> I cant boot to desktop
[23:44] <namoamitabuddha> Endafy: As Dr_Willis said, edit the kernel parameters in grub menu.
[23:44] <Endafy> I CANT
[23:44] <Endafy> I DONT KNOW THE COMMAND TO PUT IN
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> should be a line you edit (hit e at the grub menu) similer to -> linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.5.0-10-generic root=UUID=96db155e-8d35-4766-8719-7af79fc82eac ro   quiet splash $vt_handoff
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> You add nomodeset btween the quiet splash  words...
[23:45] <sportsfreund> hello guys
[23:45] <aronline> how i install cairo dock applets
[23:45] <Endafy> ok ill try that
[23:45] <sportsfreund> can somebody help me with mey dualboot problem?
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> thats what i said to do earlier... ;)
[23:45] <Endafy> so it will be at the end of linix-kernel-(numbers).whatever
[23:45] <Endafy> ?
[23:46] <Endafy> this shit shouldnt happen on an LTS
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> ....    You add nomodeset between the quiet splash  words...
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> or right after 'splash' ;)
[23:46] <kevincheri> has anybody have ptunnel exp here?
[23:46] <Endafy> ok ill try again
[23:46] <namoamitabuddha> Endafy: Maybe F2 or another key.
[23:46] <kevincheri> this is from my local machine, trying to achieve a SSH via the tunnel
[23:46] <Dr_Willis> 'quiet splash nomodeset'
[23:46] <sportsfreund> I had win 7 on a ssd first and installed ubuntu 12.04 on another hdd after
[23:46] <kevincheri> [inf]: Ping proxy is listening in privileged mode.
[23:46] <kevincheri> [vbs]: Sending proxy request.
[23:46] <kevincheri> [vbs]: Out of order. Expected: 0  Got: 2  Inserted: 2 (cur = 0)
[23:46] <kevincheri> [vbs]: Out of order. Expected: 0  Got: 3  Inserted: 3 (cur = 0)
[23:46] <kevincheri> [vbs]: Out of order. Expected: 1  Got: 5  Inserted: 5 (cur = 1)
[23:46] <TaJMoX> Help! Re-sizing windows is a pain! I only get like 1 pixel to grab the side of a window when I want to resize it.. Can I make this threshold greater? Maybe 4 pixels?
[23:46]  * Dr_Willis wonders why that is so hard to understand..
[23:46] <namoamitabuddha> Endafy: Bottom of the grub menu, there's some explanation.
[23:47] <Jordan_U> !pastebinit | kermit
[23:47] <cc11rocks> !lvm | cc11rocks
[23:48] <sportsfreund> who can I ask because of dualboot problem?
[23:48] <harris> how do i get num lock to turn on at boot
[23:48] <namoamitabuddha> sportsfreund: Just ask your questions here.
[23:48] <TJ-> harris: That is normally an option in the BIOS menus
[23:49] <phirestalker> Is there a way to put a shortcut on the desktop to an apple file sharing shared folder? drag and drop make link didn't work
[23:49] <sportsfreund> I had win 7 (64) installed first on a ssd and then ubuntu 12.04 at another hdd
[23:49] <sportsfreund> I can boot ubuntu without problem
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> harris:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/17207/numlock-turned-on-on-boot-up
[23:49] <WeThePeople> kevincheri, have you looked at ptunnel --help
[23:49] <harris> i had to download a terminal  last time TJ-
[23:49] <cc11rocks> TJ- Can I put LVM "behind" my current partitions (set it up with my current stuff) without having to start from scratch? Or is this implied?
[23:50] <sportsfreund> but when i want to boot win 7 there is a error
[23:50] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/155679/how-to-enable-numlock-at-boot-time-for-login-screen
[23:50] <cc11rocks> harris - Ubuntu and most Linux distros come with Bash or other terminals
[23:50] <Squareape> sportsfreund, what error
[23:50] <sportsfreund> it says "error unknown filesystem grub rescue"
[23:51] <sportsfreund> when I boot the hdd through entering the bios
[23:51] <TJ-> cc11rocks: Yes you can. It can take a bit of shuffling to move the space initially, but you end up in an ideal situation with sda1 as your /boot ext3 and then sda2 as an LVM physical volume which contains the volume group which contains many logical volumes
[23:51] <kevincheri> @wethepeople: yea, it didnt help
[23:51] <WeThePeople> kevincheri, type 'ptunnel --debug' in terminal see what that does
[23:51] <Jordan_U> sportsfreund: Please run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[23:51] <kevincheri> client?
[23:51] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | sportsfreund
[23:52] <WeThePeople> kevincheri, are you running it from the terminal or gui
[23:52] <kevincheri> from the terminal
[23:52] <WeThePeople> kevincheri, start a new instance and type without quotes "ptunnel --debug"
[23:52] <kevincheri> from the logs it  looks like the connection is establishing, but just its not completing
[23:53] <cc11rocks> TJ- so the LVM is basically a way to manage the size of your discs...Sort of like an advanced version of GRUB?
[23:53] <Jordan_U> cc11rocks: Grub has nothing to do with managing disk size. It's a bootloader.
[23:53] <kevincheri> WeThePeople, dont even thing there is such an option
[23:54] <kevincheri> $ ptunnel --debug
[23:54] <kevincheri> ptunnel v 0.71.
[23:54] <kevincheri> Usage:   ptunnel ..
[23:54] <endafy> thank you Dr_Willis
[23:54] <endafy> I appreciate your help in resolving my issue
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> if you use nomodeset on the installer live cd - i belive it auto-ads it to the grub configs on theinstalled system
[23:54] <endafy> no it doesnt
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> ive definiatly seen it do it..
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> ive had to remove it befor.
[23:55] <endafy> right due to it overheating
[23:55] <endafy> but I promise it wasnt there
[23:55] <endafy> it kept going to the black screen with blinking cursor
[23:55] <WeThePeople> kevincheri, this might help if you use eth0 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1151698/
[23:55] <Jordan_U> sportsfreund: Do you understand my request for boot info script output?
[23:56] <kevincheri> checking
[23:56] <cc11rocks> Okay, that was a bad anology. GRUB gives you an "overview" of the images, partitions, and such through it's menu. LVM gives you an "overview" of the images, allows you to manage the partitions, and such. This is what I meant like an advanced version of GRUB. Does GRUB  go above or below the LVM (inside LVM or outside)?
[23:56] <TJ-> cc11rocks: No, not like GRUB at all. You can resize LVM volumes easily and use the free space for other volumes
[23:56] <kyle__> cc11rocks: LVM as in logical volume management?  Outside
[23:56] <endafy> where is the grub config file?
[23:57] <cc11rocks> kyle__ yes
[23:57] <Jordan_U> kyle__: /boot/ can be on LVM.
[23:57] <endafy> I want to make sure its not there anymore
[23:57] <kyle__> cc11rocks: Grub undertsands enough of filesystems, partitions, guid partitions and lvm to open those up, pull the kernel, etc.
[23:57] <kyle__> Jordan_U: Yes it can.  But not on a mirrored lvm I found.
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> endafy:  'on the fly' edits like you did via 'e' do NOT get saved to the grub configs
[23:57] <endafy> oh ok
[23:57] <endafy> thanks for all your help
[23:58] <Jordan_U> kyle__: Please file a bug report about that then.
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> endafy:  thats sort of a main feature of the method. :)
[23:58] <cc11rocks> So two partitions : /boot and lvm. GRUB looks through LVM partition to find images and such in the partition. It then launches these. The LVM partition is there to be able to manage these images and partitions.
[23:58] <cc11rocks> Correct?
[23:58] <endafy> right
[23:58] <endafy> nice feature I appreciate that
[23:58] <namoamitabuddha> ed1703: You can edit /etc/default/grub to save these settings.
[23:58] <namoamitabuddha> endafy: up.
[23:58] <kyle__> Jordan_U: K.  I'll have to duplicate it first in 12.04, since I found that out with 11.04.
[23:59] <endafy> I am trying to install Ubuntu on like 300+ systems for sale and for people and anything with an Nvidia 4xx and 5xx card do this
[23:59] <TJ-> cc11rocks: No... GRUB looks in sda1 and finds the boot menu and the kernels and initial ram disks. It loads one of the kernels which then gets to the /etc/fstab file and mounts the LVMs as defined