| my_pen | lubuntu runs as a fully installed o/s on a usb flash drive | 03:00 |
|---|---|---|
| kanliot | someone please confirm my bug in quantal: 1037356 | 04:52 |
| kanliot | bug 1037356 | 04:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1037356 in lxappearance (Ubuntu) "can't change widget theme, apply button does nothing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1037356 | 04:52 |
| amethyst1937 | hey | 06:56 |
| amethyst1937 | i have a pII 350 mhz with 390MB RAM and 40Gb HDD ! | 06:56 |
| amethyst1937 | Will this PC run lubuntu ? | 06:57 |
| bioterror | you have more ram than most of the askers ;) | 06:58 |
| bioterror | give it a try ;) | 06:58 |
| amethyst1937 | great ! thnx man | 07:00 |
| bioterror | 12.04 comes without PAE extension in kernel, so should be quite well covered | 07:00 |
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| amethyst1937 | what is PAS extension ? | 07:04 |
| amethyst1937 | *PAE | 07:04 |
| bioterror | physical address extension or what was it | 07:04 |
| bioterror | it enables more than 3.5GB of RAM to use on 32bit systems | 07:05 |
| bioterror | and older CPU's doesnt have a support for it, like my 1.7GHz Pentium M | 07:05 |
| amethyst1937 | i see | 07:08 |
| amethyst1937 | it is my 1st try on a linux distro | 07:08 |
| bioterror | I cannot test the coming 12.10 lubuntu on my lappy :( | 07:08 |
| amethyst1937 | why this ? | 07:09 |
| amethyst1937 | because of PAE ? | 07:09 |
| kanliot | yeah | 07:09 |
| kanliot | but go ahead and try 12.04 | 07:09 |
| amethyst1937 | why they did that ? | 07:10 |
| kanliot | you should burn both the desktop and alternate isos | 07:10 |
| kanliot | in case the desktop doesn't work | 07:10 |
| amethyst1937 | so no New PCs can test it? | 07:10 |
| kanliot | kernel devs got tired of maintaining so many kernels | 07:10 |
| amethyst1937 | now i DL the desktop iso | 07:10 |
| kanliot | right bio? | 07:10 |
| amethyst1937 | ok ui understand | 07:10 |
| kanliot | get the alternate too | 07:10 |
| kanliot | save you time | 07:11 |
| amethyst1937 | on a 2mbps adsl ! i ll try | 07:11 |
| kanliot | bah 2mpbs is fine | 07:12 |
| amethyst1937 | hehe | 07:12 |
| amethyst1937 | so what about the installation options ? | 07:12 |
| kanliot | easy on desktop | 07:12 |
| amethyst1937 | the format of hdd ? | 07:12 |
| kanliot | select replace | 07:12 |
| kanliot | all done | 07:12 |
| amethyst1937 | now i have win xp on that machione | 07:12 |
| kanliot | well dual booting is twice as hard | 07:13 |
| kanliot | but you can do it | 07:13 |
| amethyst1937 | no no | 07:14 |
| amethyst1937 | i dont want win xp | 07:14 |
| amethyst1937 | only the lubuntu | 07:14 |
| amethyst1937 | :) | 07:14 |
| amethyst1937 | will the installation format the hdd ? | 07:15 |
| kanliot | you can also try lubuntu by booting the desktop cd | 07:15 |
| kanliot | it's all automatic | 07:15 |
| kanliot | are you chatting on the old pc now? | 07:16 |
| amethyst1937 | no no | 07:21 |
| amethyst1937 | this is another | 07:21 |
| amethyst1937 | next to the old | 07:21 |
| amethyst1937 | so if u are here | 07:21 |
| amethyst1937 | for about. .. | 07:21 |
| amethyst1937 | 32 mins :P | 07:21 |
| kanliot | are you 75 years old? | 07:21 |
| amethyst1937 | no ! why ? | 07:22 |
| amethyst1937 | aaaa | 07:22 |
| kanliot | 1937 | 07:22 |
| amethyst1937 | coz the date ? | 07:22 |
| amethyst1937 | no no | 07:22 |
| amethyst1937 | haha | 07:22 |
| amethyst1937 | no way ! | 07:22 |
| kanliot | !lubuntu | 07:22 |
| ubottu | lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support. | 07:22 |
| kanliot | if i'm not here there's instructions linked above | 07:23 |
| amethyst1937 | ok nice man | 07:23 |
| sabayonuser | hello guys | 08:09 |
| sabayonuser | i was using lubunt 12.04 after i updated my whole system my browsing is super slow my download speeds are fine | 08:10 |
| sabayonuser | am using adsl-pppoe conn | 08:10 |
| sabayonuser | ny help | 08:10 |
| kanliot | no idea | 08:10 |
| sabayonuser | if i boot in2 livecd browsing is normal there | 08:10 |
| kanliot | dns problem? | 08:10 |
| sabayonuser | i tried changing dns in sudo nano/etc.resolv.conf | 08:11 |
| sabayonuser | but if i reboot it deletes google dns what to do | 08:11 |
| bioterror | that's becouse you get dns from the isp | 08:11 |
| bioterror | but does that fix the browsing if you use Google DNS? | 08:11 |
| sabayonuser | my isp did not give me any dns | 08:11 |
| sabayonuser | i have a dsl connection | 08:12 |
| sabayonuser | hey this is happening to me in all ubuntu 12.04 based distros after i update my system | 08:12 |
| sabayonuser | live cd works fine | 08:12 |
| bioterror | there should be no difference, really | 08:13 |
| bioterror | does it matter which browser you use? | 08:13 |
| sabayonuser | idk man i am confused nothing is working browsing is ultra super slow | 08:13 |
| sabayonuser | i tried firefox chrome opera same | 08:13 |
| sabayonuser | websites cannot load | 08:13 |
| bioterror | what kind of error you get? | 08:13 |
| bioterror | connection times out? | 08:14 |
| sabayonuser | yaaa | 08:14 |
| sabayonuser | some time it does | 08:14 |
| kanliot | could it be your isp? | 08:15 |
| bioterror | nope | 08:15 |
| sabayonuser | hey but if i boot live cd browsing is normal again | 08:15 |
| bioterror | becouse it works with the LiveCD ;) | 08:15 |
| sabayonuser | how can i blame my isp | 08:15 |
| sabayonuser | bioterror u r cool man u understand my problem ubuntu irc is just bashing my isp lulz | 08:16 |
| bioterror | well, if you use sabayon, you must know more than basics ,) | 08:16 |
| sabayonuser | i think some update is messing this thing but i cannot figure it out | 08:16 |
| bioterror | sabayonuser, and you use wireless or wired? | 08:17 |
| sabayonuser | i go do network manager then dsl connection | 08:17 |
| bioterror | ahhh okay | 08:17 |
| sabayonuser | wired | 08:17 |
| sabayonuser | ubuntu irc makes me angry man | 08:18 |
| kanliot | http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9634487&postcount=10 | 08:18 |
| sabayonuser | umm thanks for the link have to check that out | 08:19 |
| bioterror | I've never really understood these PPPoE connections | 08:20 |
| bioterror | why they sell those | 08:20 |
| sabayonuser | hey but i am getting this problem in buntus i have tried fedora speeds are fine | 08:20 |
| sabayonuser | i connect through network manager only just username and pasword then all is well | 08:21 |
| sabayonuser | idk why ubuntu gets me into trouble | 08:21 |
| bioterror | sometimes it does | 08:22 |
| sabayonuser | ubuntu irc is very bad iwon't go there again | 08:22 |
| bioterror | I had some problems with my Dell D600, becouse returning from suspend did not work | 08:22 |
| bioterror | but with sabayon it worked | 08:22 |
| sabayonuser | :P | 08:23 |
| bioterror | now there's a fix for it, I think | 08:23 |
| bioterror | I trashed that laptop on my floor | 08:23 |
| bioterror | and stomp on it :D | 08:23 |
| sabayonuser | equo is not that good sabayon needs a good package manager then it will do goo | 08:23 |
| bioterror | okay | 08:24 |
| bioterror | what kind of network driver are you using? | 08:24 |
| sabayonuser | lubuntu is good for giving old pc's good life lol | 08:24 |
| sabayonuser | how to check the network driver | 08:24 |
| sabayonuser | r8169 | 08:24 |
| kanliot | http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9634487&postcount=10 did you try that | 08:25 |
| bioterror | sabayonuser, http://superuser.com/questions/104697/slow-pppoe-connection-using-ubuntu-9-10 does this sound familiar?-) | 08:25 |
| bioterror | kanliot, sabayonuser user is connected directly from the NIC to the wall, if I got it right | 08:26 |
| sabayonuser | i used to connect through sudo pppoeconf funny now it hangs in 12.04 lol | 08:26 |
| bioterror | he has no router there | 08:26 |
| sabayonuser | yea no router | 08:26 |
| sabayonuser | hey this slow browsing happens after i update the system | 08:26 |
| sabayonuser | if i don't update everything is normal | 08:26 |
| bioterror | okay | 08:27 |
| bioterror | you get a newer kernel | 08:27 |
| bioterror | and it gets messed up | 08:27 |
| bioterror | so it must be driver related | 08:27 |
| bioterror | sabayonuser, lspci |grep Ether | 08:27 |
| sabayonuser | ummm hey i think i also updated the kernel in fedora 17 but i did not have any problem with browsing | 08:27 |
| sabayonuser | hey i am in my frnds pc i need to go home and try that from soln :P | 08:30 |
| bioterror | okay | 08:30 |
| sabayonuser | forum soln | 08:30 |
| bioterror | it really must be driver related | 08:30 |
| bioterror | one thing could be to use older kernel :---) | 08:30 |
| sabayonuser | nyways thanks for the info guys lubuntu irc is preety cool i came here for first time | 08:30 |
| sabayonuser | xD | 08:30 |
| bioterror | you boot older kernel and you see if it works better | 08:30 |
| sabayonuser | yaa could be driver issue also | 08:31 |
| bioterror | I'm 100% sure it will get fixed like that | 08:31 |
| bioterror | if so, then it's a case of launchpad bug raport :D | 08:31 |
| sabayonuser | thanks again hope 2 ciu both again xD | 08:31 |
| sabayonuser | kudos :D | 08:32 |
| bioterror | things are really upside down if you dont see me here | 08:32 |
| sabayonuser | ubuntu irc sucks | 08:32 |
| bioterror | yes and no | 08:32 |
| bioterror | too much people, too many problems | 08:32 |
| sabayonuser | hahaha | 08:32 |
| bioterror | hard to follow and it disturbs things | 08:33 |
| sabayonuser | idk where is canonical heading | 08:33 |
| bioterror | their own mysterious paths | 08:33 |
| bioterror | mostly towards mobile phones :G | 08:33 |
| sabayonuser | unity has improved but the hardware requireents for it are insane | 08:33 |
| bioterror | I have no glue, I once booted into regular ubuntu when I tested my HTPC's sound card if it was broken if I was really dumb | 08:34 |
| bioterror | I've only once touched unity | 08:34 |
| sabayonuser | i was using arch linux they also took some stupid decisions and messed it up argh linux makes me sad sometimes | 08:34 |
| bioterror | :D | 08:35 |
| bioterror | say no more, my wife's laptop, my desktop and my htpc are arch's | 08:35 |
| bioterror | and also my parents in laws desktop is arch | 08:35 |
| sabayonuser | i also tried debian live but they do not ship pppoeconf package by default argh | 08:35 |
| bioterror | I dont now if I've dig my own grave with all those installations when the systemd hits :D | 08:36 |
| sabayonuser | nope iwon't go back to arch again | 08:36 |
| sabayonuser | too many changes is not good for my old pc :P | 08:36 |
| sabayonuser | opensuse 12.2 will be a very good release in september i tested their rc2 it is awesome | 08:37 |
| sabayonuser | 2012 surprise - fedora 17 i was amazed by this fedora releas i have had no crash lol | 08:38 |
| sabayonuser | http://homedistro.com/ check this site lubuntu is no.1 distro in this site xD | 08:39 |
| bioterror | some of our users have moved to fedora | 08:39 |
| sabayonuser | http://homedistro.com/ | 08:39 |
| sabayonuser | xD | 08:39 |
| bioterror | homedistro site is into the LXDE | 08:41 |
| sabayonuser | hehe | 08:41 |
| sabayonuser | i am done with gnome kde so now i only try lxde and xfce sometimes i mess with awesome wm and openbox lulz | 08:42 |
| bioterror | Mate is quite nice | 08:42 |
| sabayonuser | aaah not for me | 08:42 |
| sabayonuser | mate will die soon | 08:42 |
| bioterror | it will not ;) | 08:42 |
| sabayonuser | :D | 08:42 |
| sabayonuser | why need to fork gnome | 08:42 |
| bioterror | there's a quite strong userbase for it | 08:42 |
| bioterror | gnome 2 | 08:42 |
| sabayonuser | hey fuduntu still uses gnome 2 with compiz eh | 08:43 |
| sabayonuser | if u want gnome 2 try that distro its preety cool | 08:43 |
| sabayonuser | gnome 2 is history | 08:43 |
| sabayonuser | :P | 08:43 |
| sabayonuser | i don't like mate tried it aah not for me | 08:44 |
| sabayonuser | xfce > mate :D | 08:44 |
| bioterror | running on my lappy Salix OS 13.37 with Mate, and I'm quite satisfied | 08:44 |
| bioterror | I've noticed that I use it now more than my Windows 7 work laptop at home when I'm not in a need of battery | 08:44 |
| sabayonuser | yaaa salix that slackware based distro xD | 08:45 |
| bioterror | but all this is offtopic, we should move to #lubuntu-offtopic as this is a channel dedicated for problem solving | 08:45 |
| sabayonuser | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-moXUALZtw | 08:45 |
| sabayonuser | check this funny video lol | 08:45 |
| bioterror | I've seen too many Der Untergang videos | 08:46 |
| sabayonuser | hehe | 08:46 |
| amethyst1937 | hey people | 09:16 |
| amethyst1937 | i am installing lubuntu and at the time of copying files about half of the installer my screen is black but i can see the rounded loading circle cursor moving ! should i restart the proccess ? | 09:18 |
| lamogo | amethyst1937 is your hard drive light blinking? | 09:23 |
| amethyst1937 | nope | 09:23 |
| amethyst1937 | only the cursor on the screen loading | 09:23 |
| lamogo | Does it happen every time you try to install? | 09:24 |
| amethyst1937 | 1st time i try | 09:24 |
| amethyst1937 | should i begin again from start ? | 09:24 |
| lamogo | are you booted into a live session? | 09:25 |
| amethyst1937 | nope i selected install from the boot menu | 09:25 |
| lamogo | It happened to me last time I installed Lubuntu but it was a custom Live CD I made. I was at a live-cd desktop session and I ran a df command and noticed it was still transferring data so I left it alone. Not sure if you wanna wait around or just try again. | 09:29 |
| amethyst1937 | i just reseted the PC | 09:29 |
| amethyst1937 | and now i selected to try first the lubuntu | 09:29 |
| amethyst1937 | and im gonna install it from the session | 09:30 |
| lamogo | ok | 09:31 |
| lamogo | Hope it works this time around | 09:31 |
| amethyst1937 | lets see | 09:32 |
| amethyst1937 | its an PII 350 mhz and 390MB RAM | 09:32 |
| amethyst1937 | lets see :D | 09:32 |
| lamogo | wow that's just about the minimum requirements. It may be very slow in live-cd because of the limited RAM. I think there is a alternative install CD for such an application as that. | 09:44 |
| lamogo | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/12.04/release/lubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso | 09:44 |
| amethyst1937 | i see | 09:50 |
| amethyst1937 | i am downloding it now | 09:50 |
| amethyst1937 | ill try oneemore time with the desktop and then i ll try the alternate iso | 09:51 |
| lamogo | The alternate install cd will not have any form of desktop environment or mouse use I believe. You'll have to navigate with the tab key and use the enter key to to select ok, and spacebar to select options on the menus. | 09:58 |
| silverarrow | amethyst1937, on what kind of specs? | 09:58 |
| lamogo | amethyst1937: its an PII 350 mhz and 390MB RAM | 09:59 |
| silverarrow | it might just be done | 09:59 |
| amethyst1937 | i am again at the point where it copies files (and shows the slideshow) | 09:59 |
| lamogo | is it still copying files? | 09:59 |
| silverarrow | just stick with it, it takes ages on 350mhz, like 40 mintues | 10:00 |
| amethyst1937 | and again the hdd stopped working ( i dont hear noise ) and the window with the progress deissapearres | 10:00 |
| lamogo | can you bring up a terminal? | 10:00 |
| amethyst1937 | yes i can | 10:00 |
| silverarrow | I see, there should be noise i suppose | 10:00 |
| amethyst1937 | tell me | 10:00 |
| lamogo | try df -h | 10:00 |
| amethyst1937 | just a min | 10:00 |
| lamogo | and wait a few minutes, then run it again and see if data is filling your harddrive | 10:01 |
| silverarrow | how large is the hard drive? | 10:01 |
| amethyst1937 | 40 GB | 10:02 |
| silverarrow | more than plenty | 10:02 |
| amethyst1937 | yesss | 10:02 |
| amethyst1937 | i opened lxterminal | 10:02 |
| amethyst1937 | i typed df -h and a lot of info appeared | 10:03 |
| silverarrow | there is something up with gnome mplayer and lubuntu | 10:03 |
| amethyst1937 | what do u mean ? | 10:03 |
| lamogo | The first entry should be saying mounted on / | 10:03 |
| amethyst1937 | yes | 10:04 |
| lamogo | to left of the slash is a percentage what does it say? | 10:04 |
| silverarrow | it is all stable in puppy linux, but in lubuntu picture goes black, frame and sizing goes unstable | 10:04 |
| silverarrow | it is a lubuntu issue, not gnome mplayer | 10:04 |
| silverarrow | it needs to bee looked into | 10:04 |
| amethyst1937 | 63 % | 10:04 |
| lamogo | you can wait a few minutes and run the same command it see if any values changed. | 10:05 |
| lamogo | Actully check all the values because it may also be putting files in another partition at the moment. | 10:06 |
| amethyst1937 | i clicked again at the "Install lubuntu " icon at the desktop | 10:06 |
| amethyst1937 | and opened again the window from the beggining (language select etc) | 10:07 |
| silverarrow | how do you make a bug report in lubuntu or mplayer? | 10:07 |
| silverarrow | in lubuntu on gnome mplayer* | 10:07 |
| silverarrow | are there ever any devs on the lubuntu channel? | 10:08 |
| silverarrow | those really clever guys | 10:08 |
| silverarrow | ;- ) | 10:09 |
| lamogo | silverarrow I found this https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+question/166457 | 10:11 |
| silverarrow | thanks lamogo | 10:11 |
| lamogo | amethyst1937 can you run df -h again? | 10:11 |
| amethyst1937 | yes gimme a sec | 10:12 |
| silverarrow | very complicated | 10:12 |
| silverarrow | there`s been an issue with gnome player for a long time, the same stuff on at least three different computers | 10:13 |
| amethyst1937 | theres no entry for the hdd | 10:13 |
| amethyst1937 | ! | 10:13 |
| silverarrow | hmm | 10:14 |
| amethyst1937 | tmpfs | 10:14 |
| lamogo | did you restart the installer? | 10:14 |
| amethyst1937 | yes | 10:14 |
| lamogo | what is it doing now? | 10:14 |
| silverarrow | can you boot in live could or some kind of hard drive recovery tool? | 10:14 |
| silverarrow | sorry, messed up sentence | 10:14 |
| lamogo | He is in a live cd session | 10:15 |
| silverarrow | have you access to disk utility ? | 10:15 |
| silverarrow | menue-preferences-disk utility | 10:15 |
| kanliot | amethyst1937, just use the alternate installer | 10:16 |
| kanliot | ubiquity is buggy with low ram | 10:17 |
| silverarrow | yes, it does seem like a simpler solution | 10:17 |
| lamogo | amethst1937 I'm not really not to savy on Lubuntu just use it for my work computer and just watch the chat from time to time to see if I can help. The computer you are trying to install on is really low on resources. I'd suggest using hte alternate installer | 10:17 |
| silverarrow | lamogo, alternate installer is in terminal or more like a guided install process still? | 10:18 |
| silverarrow | terminal can be such a horror with out a good guide | 10:18 |
| kanliot | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/AlternateInstall | 10:19 |
| kanliot | not a horror | 10:19 |
| silverarrow | remember to make a swap | 10:20 |
| amethyst1937 | hey | 10:21 |
| amethyst1937 | the problem is i am a newbie with linux | 10:21 |
| kanliot | silverarrow, it has an automatic setup. no need to worry about swap | 10:21 |
| amethyst1937 | i need help with the partitions and swap etc | 10:21 |
| amethyst1937 | really ? | 10:21 |
| silverarrow | a good guide is a must | 10:21 |
| kanliot | yes | 10:21 |
| kanliot | i just linked a guide | 10:22 |
| amethyst1937 | yes i am reading it right now | 10:22 |
| silverarrow | amethyst1937, with a bit of luck you will get help and suggestions here along the way | 10:22 |
| amethyst1937 | maybe the problem is with the slideshow at the installer | 10:23 |
| lamogo | It's not to difficult cause it give option menus to choose just not as pretty. | 10:23 |
| amethyst1937 | now that i have left it at the "where are you " scrteen | 10:23 |
| silverarrow | kanliot, yes I read it, it looks fine | 10:23 |
| amethyst1937 | the copying files is going further | 10:23 |
| amethyst1937 | i will wait to copy all the files and then procceed with the details and login names etc | 10:24 |
| silverarrow | amethyst1937, the install process needs patience on 300 mhz and low ram, lots of patience | 10:24 |
| silverarrow | like a good walk and a pot of tea | 10:24 |
| amethyst1937 | yes i can wait | 10:25 |
| amethyst1937 | haha here in greece with this heat tea is not good ide | 10:25 |
| amethyst1937 | a | 10:25 |
| amethyst1937 | maybe an orange juice better | 10:25 |
| amethyst1937 | haha | 10:25 |
| silverarrow | the alternate install is probably a bit quicker then, but in the end you arrive at the same spot | 10:25 |
| silverarrow | iced tea lol | 10:26 |
| silverarrow | I`m in norway and we have 20 degrees today | 10:26 |
| amethyst1937 | i am about at the middle of the copy | 10:26 |
| silverarrow | a bit cloudy | 10:26 |
| amethyst1937 | im in greece and we have 38 today | 10:26 |
| amethyst1937 | a lot of sun !!! | 10:27 |
| amethyst1937 | haha | 10:27 |
| silverarrow | that never happens ehre | 10:27 |
| silverarrow | I am by the coast and it buffers any heat, hardly ever reaches 30 | 10:27 |
| silverarrow | once every 30 years perhaps lol | 10:27 |
| amethyst1937 | woww | 10:28 |
| silverarrow | 38 is too much for me | 10:28 |
| amethyst1937 | okkkkk | 10:28 |
| silverarrow | I wold just sit there and drink water lol | 10:28 |
| amethyst1937 | yes my PCs dont work good with that heat | 10:28 |
| amethyst1937 | i have them wioth open cases | 10:28 |
| silverarrow | I see | 10:29 |
| silverarrow | air conditioning | 10:29 |
| amethyst1937 | no i dont like | 10:29 |
| amethyst1937 | makes me sick | 10:29 |
| silverarrow | or refrigorator install | 10:29 |
| amethyst1937 | its ok ! in a month the temperature will be fine | 10:30 |
| silverarrow | yes, I have heard that, some get like a perpetual cold almost | 10:30 |
| amethyst1937 | 30 C | 10:30 |
| silverarrow | I like everyting up to about 27 | 10:30 |
| amethyst1937 | yes thats the best | 10:30 |
| silverarrow | it rather hard to come from norway and straight into that kind of heat | 10:31 |
| silverarrow | we need like two or three weeks to adjust | 10:31 |
| amethyst1937 | it must be nice in norway | 10:31 |
| silverarrow | today it is nice | 10:31 |
| amethyst1937 | i mean general | 10:31 |
| silverarrow | even with cloudy weather | 10:31 |
| silverarrow | well... it can be | 10:32 |
| amethyst1937 | but ? | 10:32 |
| silverarrow | I live on the south west coast and it is too much rain | 10:32 |
| silverarrow | sunny weather is very appreciated | 10:33 |
| amethyst1937 | here rain is very appreciated | 10:33 |
| silverarrow | when you have had 2 or 3 weeks of rain nonstop you are really fed up | 10:33 |
| silverarrow | I could always send you some lol | 10:33 |
| silverarrow | tomorrow they have predicted rain and thunder | 10:34 |
| silverarrow | a bit exiting for once lol | 10:34 |
| silverarrow | lightning is fascinating | 10:34 |
| amethyst1937 | i see | 10:35 |
| amethyst1937 | hehe | 10:35 |
| silverarrow | kanliot, do the partitions need to be flagged in lubuntu ? | 10:36 |
| amethyst1937 | man brb in 10 mins !!! have smthing to do ! cya later | 10:36 |
| silverarrow | in some distros you need to flag when using a manual partition maker | 10:36 |
| silverarrow | see you | 10:36 |
| amethyst1937 | now the installer is almost at 70 % | 10:36 |
| amethyst1937 | i have left it at the keyboard layout screen | 10:37 |
| lamogo | I'm in the Philippines and we have had our first day of sunshine in two weeks. The past two weeks have been to hurricanes and a monsoon | 10:37 |
| amethyst1937 | and moves on | 10:37 |
| amethyst1937 | the progress bar filled all | 10:37 |
| amethyst1937 | and disapeared | 10:37 |
| amethyst1937 | now ??? | 10:37 |
| amethyst1937 | should i finish the installer ? | 10:37 |
| lamogo | sure, | 10:38 |
| amethyst1937 | ok hold on ! iam at keyboard layout yet | 10:38 |
| lamogo | proced slowly | 10:39 |
| amethyst1937 | ok now the who are you screen | 10:39 |
| amethyst1937 | loading loading .... | 10:41 |
| amethyst1937 | welcome screen with the slides | 10:41 |
| amethyst1937 | and "installing system" | 10:41 |
| amethyst1937 | progress bar | 10:42 |
| amethyst1937 | i ll leave it for 10 mins and inform you | 10:42 |
| amethyst1937 | brb | 10:42 |
| technoid_ | great name for a coffee bar, "The Progress Bar" | 10:42 |
| silverarrow | there is a way to launch bug report from an alt F-key function but I cannot find it | 10:58 |
| silverarrow | yeah, anything coffee seems to relate to ubuntu | 10:58 |
| silverarrow | on the forum we are handed out beans on each post | 10:58 |
| lamogo | didn't know about the key bind for bug reporting that's cool. | 11:04 |
| silverarrow | if I only could figure out how to use it | 11:06 |
| vit_o | hello | 11:09 |
| silverarrow | hi vit_o | 11:10 |
| vit_o | how can i have my default lxpanel back? | 11:10 |
| silverarrow | hmm | 11:10 |
| silverarrow | have you tried open box config manager ? | 11:11 |
| silverarrow | there is probably some sudo command too | 11:11 |
| vit_o | this panel is driving me crazy. it is a non-sense that i can't restablish this stuff | 11:12 |
| vit_o | i don't think so, because i hadn't found it! :( | 11:13 |
| silverarrow | not many here right now | 11:14 |
| silverarrow | have you tried the ubuntu channel? | 11:14 |
| silverarrow | there is a fairly easy way to switch | 11:14 |
| lamogo | I think it is sudo lxpanelctl restart <name of user> | 11:15 |
| silverarrow | sudo apt-get install lxde | 11:17 |
| silverarrow | ? | 11:17 |
| silverarrow | as total reinstall ? | 11:17 |
| vit_o | lamogo: the problem is that the default panel disappears, so when i restart it reload the new panel i've created, not the def one. | 11:18 |
| vit_o | is it clear? (sorry for my bad english) | 11:18 |
| silverarrow | yes I think I know what you mean | 11:19 |
| silverarrow | I`m just not clever enough to come up with a fix | 11:19 |
| vit_o | ok ok xD | 11:19 |
| lamogo | actually yesterday I came here and had the same problem, that command they gave also didn't work for me. I rebooted my computer and issue went away. | 11:20 |
| silverarrow | sudo aptitude confix lxde? something like that | 11:20 |
| silverarrow | lamogo, command then reboot might have worked ? | 11:21 |
| lamogo | They gave me a "pkill lxpanel" and then the command I gave you | 11:21 |
| lamogo | but when I reloaded the panel it was the wrong one even with the user name | 11:21 |
| lamogo | so I rebooted and it's been fine | 11:21 |
| lamogo | do you want the default panel back? | 11:22 |
| vit_o | lamogo: yes please!! Xd | 11:24 |
| lamogo | I'm not to familiar with Lubuntu. Can you try "dpkg --reconfigure lxpanel" | 11:25 |
| lamogo | that has two dashes for reconfigure | 11:26 |
| vit_o | dpkg doesn't have reconfigure option | 11:28 |
| vit_o | it says error | 11:28 |
| lamogo | i see. I'm a noob in Lubuntu. | 11:29 |
| vit_o | maybe it is better to ask in the forum ? | 11:29 |
| lamogo | can you run "ls ~/.config/lxpanel/Lubuntu/panels/panel | 11:30 |
| lamogo | " | 11:30 |
| vit_o | I have only a panel named top | 11:32 |
| vit_o | (the new one i created) | 11:32 |
| lamogo | I think that file is the default one, have you modified it? | 11:33 |
| lamogo | not top, but the one I gave | 11:33 |
| vit_o | in the folder panels I do not have any othe folders, but just a file named top, that is the conf file of the new panel I created | 11:35 |
| lamogo | does "lxpanelctl <user name> config" give an option to restore the default | 11:40 |
| lamogo | sorry try lxpanelctl config <user name> | 11:41 |
| vit_o | i've already looked with no results :( | 11:43 |
| bioterror | give some rm -rf to panel configs, and it will create the default one again | 11:47 |
| vit_o | bioterror: can you explain me how to do that? | 11:48 |
| lamogo | try "rm ~/.config/lxpanel/Lubuntu/panels/top" | 11:49 |
| vit_o | done | 11:51 |
| lamogo | ls ~/.config/lxpanel/Lubuntu/panels/ | 11:51 |
| vit_o | it is empty | 11:52 |
| lamogo | logout and login | 11:52 |
| lamogo | oops maybe lxpanel restart would have been better | 11:53 |
| vit_o | i'm back! | 11:54 |
| lamogo | did it work | 11:54 |
| lamogo | ... | 11:54 |
| vit_o | and my wonderful panel too! xD | 11:55 |
| lamogo | well thank bioterror. :) | 11:55 |
| vit_o | thank you very much guys!!! | 11:55 |
| vit_o | thanks a lot! bye bye! I have to go! | 11:56 |
| amethyst1937 | ok i started the alternate installation iso | 12:06 |
| amethyst1937 | good luck | 12:06 |
| bioterror | godspeed! | 12:06 |
| lamogo | God speed | 12:06 |
| amethyst1937 | Hostname ? | 12:11 |
| amethyst1937 | what should i put ? | 12:11 |
| bioterror | what ever you want | 12:11 |
| bioterror | it's the name of your computer | 12:11 |
| amethyst1937 | lubuntu is ok ? | 12:11 |
| bioterror | I suggest you name your computer: tinky-winky | 12:11 |
| amethyst1937 | hahahah | 12:12 |
| bioterror | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-e-93wK4g3ow/T3udXuS9YDI/AAAAAAAAEtg/skOwOP17p7g/s1600/article-1177338-04CF0806000005DC-42_224x333.jpg haters gonna hate :D | 12:12 |
| amethyst1937 | help me with the partitions guys | 12:16 |
| amethyst1937 | :D | 12:16 |
| amethyst1937 | i want to format all the disk and use it only for lubuntu | 12:16 |
| amethyst1937 | i see 5 options | 12:16 |
| bioterror | use whole disk then? | 12:17 |
| amethyst1937 | and set up lvm ? or set up encrypted lvm ? | 12:17 |
| bioterror | technically if you use just whole disk, you wont need LVM | 12:17 |
| bioterror | and dont encrypt | 12:17 |
| amethyst1937 | what is lvm ? | 12:17 |
| bioterror | it's a great thing if you need to change size of the disk | 12:18 |
| bioterror | !lvm | 12:18 |
| ubottu | Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto | 12:18 |
| amethyst1937 | ok im at 66 % | 12:26 |
| amethyst1937 | things going well :D | 12:26 |
| lamogo | hope it finishes | 12:26 |
| amethyst1937 | im trying from 11.oo oclock | 12:26 |
| amethyst1937 | haha | 12:27 |
| amethyst1937 | but i dont give up | 12:27 |
| amethyst1937 | :D | 12:27 |
| amethyst1937 | it asked me for a username | 12:27 |
| amethyst1937 | and a password | 12:28 |
| amethyst1937 | i fill it | 12:28 |
| amethyst1937 | the password for root which is ? | 12:28 |
| lamogo | Some as other password | 12:28 |
| bioterror | no | 12:29 |
| bioterror | ubuntu will not ask password for root | 12:29 |
| bioterror | it asks for a user | 12:29 |
| bioterror | and password for it, and it can do sudo | 12:29 |
| amethyst1937 | so the root doesnt have password | 12:30 |
| amethyst1937 | ? | 12:31 |
| lamogo | Ubuntu doesn't really have a root account but uses root privileges through "sudo" | 12:31 |
| amethyst1937 | aha | 12:32 |
| amethyst1937 | ok | 12:32 |
| lamogo | Normally the first user is granted all permissions through sudo commands. | 12:32 |
| amethyst1937 | thnx | 12:32 |
| bioterror | !root | 12:32 |
| ubottu | Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo | 12:32 |
| amethyst1937 | nice article | 12:37 |
| silverarrow | are you still installing amethyst1937 ? | 12:39 |
| === alkisg1 is now known as alkisg | ||
| lamogo | seems he is silverarrow. | 12:42 |
| amethyst1937 | yes yes | 12:49 |
| amethyst1937 | retrieving file 380 of 796 | 12:49 |
| amethyst1937 | 18% | 12:49 |
| amethyst1937 | do i have future ? | 12:49 |
| lamogo | looks like I won't be around to see how it all works out. Gotta log-off soon. | 12:50 |
| amethyst1937 | it is doing great | 12:50 |
| amethyst1937 | 480 of 796 | 12:50 |
| amethyst1937 | 600 | 12:51 |
| silverarrow | comming along | 13:10 |
| silverarrow | I will be around, a bit to and from the computer | 13:11 |
| lamogo | good night | 13:15 |
| tewecske | hi | 13:31 |
| silverarrow | hi | 13:31 |
| silverarrow | how are you doing? | 13:32 |
| silverarrow | I am doing some gnome mplayer testing and have to close browser and this chat | 13:32 |
| silverarrow | I am in chatzilla | 13:33 |
| silverarrow | no, I am not lol | 13:33 |
| tewecske | i have a dell n5010 laptop with a corsair 90gb ssd with gpt partition, i used this for more the 6 months now but now I can't boot it | 13:33 |
| tewecske | it boots from livecd | 13:33 |
| tewecske | but can't boot from the hdd, there aren't any messages | 13:33 |
| tewecske | how can i fix a gpt patitioned drive? | 13:34 |
| tewecske | oh and i use lubuntu 11.10 | 13:34 |
| silverarrow | have you lost grub or some kind of messup? | 13:34 |
| silverarrow | I see | 13:34 |
| tewecske | i don't have grub | 13:34 |
| silverarrow | on a mac? | 13:34 |
| silverarrow | no sorry, | 13:34 |
| silverarrow | my mind is elsewhere | 13:34 |
| silverarrow | I shall have to have a cup of coffee or something | 13:35 |
| silverarrow | what kind of bootloader do you have? | 13:35 |
| silverarrow | I know some bootloader updates can messup other that default setup | 13:36 |
| silverarrow | I am in 12.04 | 13:36 |
| tewecske | i don't know | 13:38 |
| tewecske | how can i check it | 13:38 |
| bioterror | what kind of computer you have? | 13:38 |
| bioterror | what's the boot error message? | 13:38 |
| bioterror | !error | 13:38 |
| ubottu | Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel) | 13:38 |
| tewecske | there is nothing | 13:38 |
| tewecske | blank screen with blinking cursor | 13:39 |
| tewecske | i checked the lgof iles | 13:39 |
| tewecske | log files | 13:39 |
| tewecske | nothing there either | 13:39 |
| bioterror | hmmm | 13:39 |
| bioterror | and the hard drive works otherwise well? | 13:39 |
| tewecske | yes | 13:40 |
| tewecske | i can mount it and browse | 13:40 |
| bioterror | okay | 13:40 |
| bioterror | !grub-rescue | 13:40 |
| bioterror | tewecske, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair | 13:40 |
| tewecske | i tried it | 13:41 |
| bioterror | and? | 13:41 |
| tewecske | it sais itás a GPT partition and can't fix it | 13:41 |
| bioterror | okay | 13:41 |
| tewecske | it recommends other ways to fix it, let me check again | 13:42 |
| bioterror | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting#Install_GRUB2_in_.28U.29EFI_systems | 13:44 |
| bioterror | so difficult :P | 13:44 |
| bioterror | do I really want an EFI system myself :G | 13:44 |
| tewecske | "GPT detected. Please create a BIOS-Boot partition (>1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag). This can be performed via tools such as Gparted. Then try again." | 13:45 |
| tewecske | it's not an EFI system | 13:45 |
| bioterror | okay | 13:45 |
| tewecske | afaik linux can boot from GPT with bios just windows can't | 13:46 |
| tewecske | and it worked for months this must be the case :) | 13:46 |
| bioterror | I have not played with GPT | 13:51 |
| bioterror | maybe I should... | 13:52 |
| silverarrow | wb amethyst1937 | 14:19 |
| silverarrow | how are you doing? | 14:19 |
| silverarrow | amethyst1937, ? | 14:35 |
| amethyst1937 | at last | 15:01 |
| silverarrow | hi amethyst1937 | 15:19 |
| silverarrow | how is the install doing? | 15:19 |
| silverarrow | what is mplayer2 binaries ? | 15:23 |
| silverarrow | I have trouble with mplayer | 15:23 |
| silverarrow | I need some mplayer clever guys | 15:25 |
| silverarrow | hi hyperair | 15:26 |
| silverarrow | join #mplayer | 15:26 |
| hyperair | hi silverarrow | 15:26 |
| silverarrow | I`m struggeling with mplayer | 15:27 |
| * keke jump | 16:11 | |
| silverarrow | have you arrived at anything amethyst1937 ? | 16:47 |
| silverarrow | can someone help me with package install? | 17:38 |
| silverarrow | I am in a pickle | 17:38 |
| bioterror | pickle?-) | 17:42 |
| silverarrow | yes, I have removed gnome mplayer package | 17:49 |
| silverarrow | and are trying to install gnome mplayer package 1.0.6 from the site | 17:49 |
| silverarrow | I know it is not recommended, but there is hope I might get it to work on ppc | 17:49 |
| silverarrow | bioterror: still here? | 17:49 |
| bioterror | I am | 17:50 |
| silverarrow | this is the situation http://imagebin.org/224913 | 17:50 |
| silverarrow | I am getting help form a guy that works with developing gnome mplayer I think | 17:51 |
| bioterror | and? | 17:53 |
| silverarrow | how do I get it to install then? | 17:58 |
| bioterror | you could first start by reading that README -file | 17:59 |
| bioterror | as it states "READ ME" | 17:59 |
| silverarrow | What do think I am doin lol | 18:00 |
| bioterror | probably not reading it | 18:00 |
| silverarrow | http://imagebin.org/224915 | 18:03 |
| silverarrow | no help in that one, at least for the first steps | 18:03 |
| silverarrow | might be something here http://pastebin.com/WemwxBu8 | 18:07 |
| silverarrow | I need a break | 18:15 |
| silverarrow | my head is mush | 18:15 |
| silverarrow | anyone with an old ibook or powerpc? | 18:15 |
| wxl | yep | 18:16 |
| silverarrow | and linux installed? | 18:17 |
| silverarrow | wxl or still osx? | 18:17 |
| silverarrow | os 10 | 18:17 |
| wxl | lubuntu, yes, but i haven't touched it in a while | 18:17 |
| silverarrow | oh do touch it | 18:19 |
| wxl | don't have it in front of me | 18:19 |
| silverarrow | have you ever gotten gnome mplayer gecko setup to work? | 18:19 |
| wxl | no | 18:19 |
| silverarrow | well behind you then? | 18:19 |
| silverarrow | I am trying | 18:19 |
| wxl | but haev you caught any of the discussion about mplayer no the mailing list? that might offer some suggestion | 18:20 |
| Unit193 | mplayer backend vs mplayer2 backend. | 18:20 |
| silverarrow | I am trying to install latest version with 1.0.6 | 18:20 |
| silverarrow | and I have tried the original mplayer | 18:21 |
| silverarrow | no difference on ppc | 18:21 |
| silverarrow | Unit193: back end as in repositories? | 18:21 |
| silverarrow | I would happily take any suggestion on how to go about it | 18:23 |
| silverarrow | Unit193 yes I have tried the difference between mplayer and mplayer2 | 18:24 |
| kanliot | replacing mplayer2 with mplayer is easy | 18:24 |
| kanliot | 1 command, you want it? | 18:24 |
| silverarrow | no, | 18:24 |
| silverarrow | I already have | 18:24 |
| silverarrow | doesn` improve a thing | 18:24 |
| kanliot | same here man | 18:25 |
| silverarrow | probably not where the problem lies | 18:25 |
| silverarrow | however I would like to install gnome mplayer targaz 1.0.6 package | 18:25 |
| silverarrow | which is what kevin is working with | 18:26 |
| kanliot | what about smplayer | 18:26 |
| silverarrow | have tried it too, and no success | 18:26 |
| silverarrow | ppc resists | 18:26 |
| kanliot | you picked a back software to learn the build process | 18:27 |
| kanliot | but don't let me stop ya | 18:27 |
| silverarrow | lol true | 18:27 |
| silverarrow | horror | 18:27 |
| kanliot | :) | 18:27 |
| kanliot | oh and thanks for helping with that amethyst guy | 18:28 |
| silverarrow | I hope he got somewhere | 18:28 |
| kanliot | he said finally | 18:28 |
| kanliot | probably got it i think | 18:28 |
| silverarrow | yes, that would be a good indication | 18:29 |
| silverarrow | lubuntu ofen run surprisingly well on those old computers | 18:29 |
| bioterror | is it time to point out that there's a reason why apple ditched PPC :D | 18:29 |
| kanliot | what about vlc? | 18:30 |
| silverarrow | true | 18:30 |
| silverarrow | I have tried it | 18:30 |
| silverarrow | powerpc processors suck | 18:30 |
| bioterror | yes they do | 18:30 |
| silverarrow | luckily macbook pros are a bit better | 18:32 |
| silverarrow | they are just regular pcs these days | 18:32 |
| silverarrow | I think I like the new slim samsung models | 18:33 |
| bioterror | s/regular/premium/ | 18:33 |
| zleap | but i guess macs are built to a standard spec to ensure OSX works properly | 18:33 |
| bioterror | yes | 18:33 |
| bioterror | that's called "vendor locked-in" | 18:33 |
| zleap | yeah | 18:33 |
| silverarrow | can be a bit annoying like that | 18:34 |
| zleap | i guess there are pros / cons | 18:34 |
| zleap | cons being older hardware perhaps | 18:34 |
| zleap | where as most PC's can be upgraded | 18:34 |
| bioterror | but the hardware should work like a dream plus no driver problems | 18:35 |
| silverarrow | I`m not sure really, everytime there is a osx upgrade, there are major activity on the forums to get stuff fixed | 18:36 |
| bioterror | :D | 18:36 |
| silverarrow | drivers are probalby linux only weakness | 18:38 |
| silverarrow | and software lockout some times | 18:38 |
| silverarrow | very annying with adobe flash player | 18:38 |
| silverarrow | however, I think gnome mplayer gecko should work on powerpc | 18:39 |
| silverarrow | it just need a bit of tweaking | 18:39 |
| silverarrow | and I need to get a bit more clever | 18:39 |
| silverarrow | I have a hp with a broken screen | 18:40 |
| silverarrow | which means I might need a new laptop | 18:40 |
| TheLordOfTime | or have HP replace the screen. | 18:41 |
| silverarrow | yeah, maybe | 18:41 |
| silverarrow | it`s 4GB RAM and core2 duo cpu | 18:42 |
| silverarrow | but I never had 64 bit system on it | 18:42 |
| silverarrow | I can get a new screen for about 70 pounds | 18:43 |
| silverarrow | I am off for tonight, see you another day | 18:49 |
| silverarrow | ;- ) | 18:49 |
| danieru | hi, can anyone tell me the quickest way to share a dir via samba on lubuntu? | 20:09 |
| danieru | i have used swat in the past, and setup smb.conf, but something as close to nautilus' right-click and share simplicity would be great! | 20:11 |
| silverarrow | any guys clever with package building ? | 21:12 |
| silverarrow | or not | 21:13 |
| silverarrow | are there any developers here? | 21:24 |
| zumodoki | Hello people! | 21:36 |
| zumodoki | I have questions | 21:36 |
| zumodoki | Who has answers? | 21:36 |
| kanliot | 42 | 21:37 |
| zumodoki | Fantastic, Just the answer I needed to all my questions! | 21:37 |
| kanliot | the silence in the channel is also an answer, but in a zen buddhist way | 21:40 |
| bioterror | no questions, good | 21:45 |
| APoulos | hey folks, would it be okay to install Lubuntu 12.04 onto a computer with only 512MB of ram? | 22:36 |
| APoulos | anyone awake? | 22:39 |
| tiger_eye | there's one way to find out, APoulos ;-) | 22:39 |
| APoulos | tiger_eye, I don't have much time - fixing a computer for a friend and he only has 512MB of ram | 22:40 |
| tiger_eye | yes, I believe you can | 22:40 |
| APoulos | tiger_eye, he's got a 2007 Mac Book that I turned into Linux box | 22:40 |
| APoulos | tiger_eye, I'm installing 11.10 right now of Lubuntu - but I wanted to know if 12.04 would be compatible | 22:41 |
| tiger_eye | cool. the alternate Lubuntu installer is needed for less than 256MB of ram, so 512MB should be plenty for the normal install | 22:41 |
| tiger_eye | I'm hardly an authority on the matter; I'm just a user | 22:42 |
| APoulos | would the lubuntu alternative installer include a gui for the desktop? | 22:42 |
| APoulos | or is it all CLi? | 22:42 |
| tiger_eye | "A Pentium II or Celeron system with 128 MB of RAM. Desktop CD should not be used to install on systems with less than 1 GB of RAM. Please download the alternate ISO. " | 22:42 |
| tiger_eye | from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu | 22:43 |
| APoulos | yeah I read that | 22:43 |
| APoulos | thats why im asking | 22:43 |
| tiger_eye | ah, then you know more than me ;-) . I'd be absolutely shocked if the alternate installer didn't include a gui, although the installation will be minimal | 22:44 |
| APoulos | understood | 22:44 |
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