| ESphynx | oh I missed xnox :( | 02:16 |
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| ESphynx | btw the package is at http://mentors.debian.net/package/ecere-sdk :P | 03:06 |
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| abin_ | is there Chinese in motu, I a beginner, and want someone to help me do some work? | 04:01 |
| codemaniac | where to start to become a motu ? | 05:23 |
| UndiFineD | codemaniac, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/ | 05:41 |
| codemaniac | thanks UndiFineD | 05:41 |
| UndiFineD | topic :) | 05:42 |
| codemaniac | UndiFineD: can i do the dev activities on a headless ubuntuserver install | 05:42 |
| codemaniac | i mean is there any GUI tools needed | 05:42 |
| codemaniac | for a MOTU | 05:43 |
| UndiFineD | read the docs, it is all there | 05:43 |
| codemaniac | sure , but i was planning to set things up , thanks | 05:44 |
| ScottK | codemaniac: Most of us use primarily command line tools even when we have a GUI available. It's certainly not needed. | 06:25 |
| codemaniac | ScottK: thanks , you turn my nitro booster on | 06:30 |
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| codemaniac | Do i need a development release of Ubuntu as a testbed ? | 07:35 |
| geser | it helps if you can test your changes yourself (a VM is sufficient if you don't want to run the dev release) | 07:40 |
| codemaniac | is there any way someone can review/test the changes for me ? | 07:42 |
| codemaniac | i believe here comes the sponser | 07:43 |
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| Zhenech | Daviey, may I bother you with some canonical job-related questions? | 09:54 |
| Daviey | Zhenech: I can try.. | 10:13 |
| directhex | "what's the secret handshake?" | 10:35 |
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| Daviey | directhex: I couldn't disclose anything like that!! | 10:54 |
| Zhenech | Daviey, I sent an application for https://tbe.taleo.net/NA3/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=CANONICAL&cws=1&rid=493 about two weeks ago and was wondering about possible roundtrip times in canonical-core for that (background: other possible employees want to know when I can be sure about joining them) | 11:13 |
| Lasall | micahg: i'd like to help the chromium people to get their ppa uptodate. is help welcome and if yes where can i start? | 12:13 |
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| dholbach | anyone up for taking the last 1h slot on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable? | 14:12 |
| micahg | Lasall: yes, help is welcome, I'm gathering a list right now | 14:53 |
| Lasall | micahg: :) just ping me | 15:17 |
| ESphynx | xnox: hi :) | 15:31 |
| xnox | ESphynx: hola =) | 15:32 |
| ESphynx | como esta | 15:32 |
| ESphynx | See http://mentors.debian.net/package/ecere-sdk :P pretty clean now ;) | 15:33 |
| xnox | ESphynx: I might have some time over the weekend to look at it again =) | 15:42 |
| ESphynx | xnox: Ah great :) that would be nice. | 15:42 |
| ESphynx | Would any of you here be able to assist me regarding integration problems with Unity? | 15:42 |
| ESphynx | guys: http://ecere.com/tmp/unityBug.png | 15:42 |
| ESphynx | is there some kind of weird override going on with maximized apps? > Unity realy doesn’t play nice with my GUI toolkit :| you’ll see the menu bar display twice under itself when maximized... and sometimes the clicks are gonna be off as well... I really wish we could work to resolve this | 15:43 |
| ESphynx | My app is meant to come up maximized...But with Unity, sometimes it will come up maximized messed up, sometimes maximized OK , sometimes not maximized (fine) | 15:43 |
| ScottK | ESphynx: If it's a development issue, #ubuntu-deskotp is a better channel. | 15:43 |
| ESphynx | ScottK, thanks. | 15:43 |
| ESphynx | See that double menu bar :P not supposed to happen :P (And I don’t know how the heck it happens) | 15:43 |
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| siretart | jbicha: I notice that you have uploaded/synced the latest live-boot. I've had the chance to test it in quantal in an nfsroot environment | 16:30 |
| siretart | jbicha: unfortunately, the version in quantal fails to optain an ip via dhcp. AFAIUI, this was fixed by this patch: http://live.debian.net/gitweb?p=live-boot.git;a=commit;h=990d419eacf614710c838ef743aa10ec0612ed7a | 16:31 |
| siretart | jbicha: as a quick test, I've installed the debian package 3.0~b1-1 in the nfsroot and rebuilt the initramfs | 16:31 |
| siretart | jbicha: while the system still fails to boot because of bug #1038075, at least dhcp worked | 16:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1038075 in linux (Ubuntu) "[quantal] overlayfs over r/o NFS mount triggers OOPS" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1038075 | 16:32 |
| siretart | jbicha: any objections to sync that into quantal? | 16:32 |
| jbicha | no, please go ahead :) | 16:32 |
| siretart | jbicha: did you use/test live-boot for something in particular? | 16:33 |
| siretart | hrmpf. not in testing yet, so https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+localpackagediffs?field.name_filter=live-boot doesn't work | 16:35 |
| codemaniac | /whois siretart | 16:36 |
| jbicha | siretart: you can use syncpackage from the ubuntu-dev-tools package | 16:36 |
| ScottK | siretart: If it doesn't, that's a bug since we're syncing from Unstable this cycle. | 16:46 |
| ScottK | But syncpackage is the way to go in any case. | 16:47 |
| micahg | siretart: one is not supposed to use the web interface for syncing, syncpackage is the proper way to do it | 16:47 |
| xnox | tumbleweed: can I haz an RSS for UDS Radiant Raccoon specs? =) | 17:13 |
| tumbleweed | xnox: there, done :) | 17:15 |
| xnox | tumbleweed: do I need to do anything? is it the same feed? | 17:17 |
| tumbleweed | same feed | 17:17 |
| xnox | cool =) | 17:17 |
| * tumbleweed goes out | 17:17 | |
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| zachtib | hey, I have a quick question about ubuntu/debian packaging, is this a proper place to ask? | 19:15 |
| TheLordOfTime | zachtib: this would be one place, #ubuntu-packaging might be a good place also. if for Debian, you might be looking for the debian mentors on oftc. | 19:16 |
| TheLordOfTime | :) | 19:16 |
| zachtib | TheLordOfTime, well, I'm doing this on Ubuntu :P | 19:16 |
| TheLordOfTime | but i get my in-depth packaging help here, or on debian-mentors when i'm packaging for Debian on Ubuntu :P | 19:16 |
| * TheLordOfTime is not a MOTU, nor a packaging expert, btw. | 19:16 | |
| zachtib | so, I'm packaging a program for work, and it's build process is kind of cludgy, but it seems to compile ok... | 19:17 |
| zachtib | the auto_install doesn't work, though, so I'd like to write my own inside of debian/rules. I've found override_dh_auto_install, but I can't seem to make use of env variables from inside debian/rules | 19:18 |
| tumbleweed | zachtib: export them | 19:18 |
| zachtib | tumbleweed, oh, ok | 19:19 |
| tumbleweed | the override_dh_auto_install will run in a sub-make | 19:19 |
| zachtib | let me see if that works... | 19:19 |
| zachtib | tumbleweed, to clarify, I want to define this variable from within the override, and use it on subsequent lines in that override | 19:20 |
| zachtib | or should I just do that at the top of the file? | 19:21 |
| tumbleweed | zachtib: ah | 19:21 |
| tumbleweed | so you can't really do that, because each line gets executed in a separate shell | 19:21 |
| tumbleweed | if you want to have a multi-line chunk executed in the same shell, put ;\ at the end of each line | 19:21 |
| zachtib | ah | 19:22 |
| tumbleweed | (; for bash, \ to tell make that you're continuing the line) | 19:22 |
| tumbleweed | and do start it with a set -e; or you'll not abort on errors | 19:22 |
| tumbleweed | don't forget you also need to escape $ for shell variables. So you'll be saying $$foo | 19:22 |
| zachtib | ok, that I did not know | 19:23 |
| tumbleweed | $(make_variable) $$shell_variable | 19:24 |
| zachtib | export DESTDIR=$(shell pwd)/debian/appname;\ mkdir -p $$(DESTDIR)/usr/bin | 19:25 |
| zachtib | so, that didn't work =/ | 19:25 |
| tumbleweed | no need to export it there | 19:25 |
| tumbleweed | btw, you can use $(CURDIR)/debian/appname | 19:26 |
| zachtib | ok | 19:26 |
| tumbleweed | or even simple, just put usr/bin in debian/appname.dirs | 19:26 |
| tumbleweed | dh_installdirs reads that | 19:26 |
| zachtib | well, the script continues, I do want that variable later | 19:27 |
| zachtib | i'm still getting DESTDIR: not found | 19:28 |
| tumbleweed | $$DISTDIR not $$(DESTDIR) | 19:28 |
| zachtib | oh | 19:28 |
| jtaylor | I'd define it globally as a make variable | 19:28 |
| * tumbleweed wouldn't be suprised if dh_auto_install already defines it | 19:29 | |
| jtaylor | but I think you might be better of trying to coax dh_install to do the right thing | 19:29 |
| tumbleweed | +1 on that | 19:29 |
| zachtib | at some point, I need to just fix our build system | 19:29 |
| jtaylor | that would be best of course :) | 19:30 |
| zachtib | it's a cludgy cmake script that only handles building the application binary | 19:30 |
| tumbleweed | if it's just copying things to the rigth places, dh_install makes that trivial | 19:30 |
| zachtib | and doesn't install any of the related files | 19:30 |
| tumbleweed | (but dh_install doesn't help with renaming) | 19:30 |
| zachtib | I really need to better learn what it's capable of | 19:31 |
| tumbleweed | see its manpage | 19:32 |
| zachtib | but for a friday afternoon, I'll be content to just get this done >.< | 19:32 |
| jtaylor | a lot since it can execute scripts :) | 19:32 |
| zachtib | well, that takes care of my super-hacky approach... maybe next week I'll learn how to do it properly | 19:38 |
| zachtib | I should probably just change the project to use autotools and then dh can do everything on its own | 19:39 |
| jtaylor | it can do that for cmake too | 19:45 |
| zachtib | I know | 19:48 |
| zachtib | so, another question, is there a way to use dch inside of a script (so it won't open the editor after inc the version number)? | 19:48 |
| zachtib | nvm, found it | 19:50 |
| ESphynx | tumbleweed: are you a DD too? :) | 21:39 |
| tumbleweed | ESphynx: yes | 21:40 |
| ESphynx | tumbleweed: oh :) did you notice I fixed the ecere package? :P | 21:40 |
| ESphynx | Just in case you were interested :P Guess you guys are busy , but I would really like it it made it into QQ :P | 21:40 |
| * tumbleweed hasn't been paying much attention to the world recently, I'm afraid :) | 21:40 | |
| ESphynx | tumbleweed: http://mentors.debian.net/package/ecere-sdk ... also uploaded it with Ubuntu pacakging to the Launchpad bug | 21:41 |
| tumbleweed | it's a complex package, non-trivial to review | 21:42 |
| ESphynx | for sure. | 21:42 |
| * tumbleweed leaves a tab open, maybe I can find some time | 21:42 | |
| ESphynx | Ah nice :) | 21:42 |
| ESphynx | time is but a dimension of the world we live in :) | 21:42 |
| ESphynx | it is not as it seems :P | 21:42 |
| ESphynx | yet it does feel sparse :( | 21:43 |
| ESphynx | specially when you want to do so much :) | 21:43 |
| * micahg wonders if a GUI backport requesting tool would be good, based on how hard it was for the user in -packaging to get a backport request | 23:20 | |
| * micahg thinks he has himself a EOY vacation project :) | 23:20 | |
| * micahg guesses Qt wouldn't be allowed in ubuntu-dev-tools, a separate source maybe :) | 23:23 | |
| * micahg guesses it could be done in pygtk, maybe that's the way to go... | 23:25 | |
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