[02:16] oh I missed xnox :( [03:06] btw the package is at http://mentors.debian.net/package/ecere-sdk :P === FlannelKing is now known as Flannel [04:01] is there Chinese in motu, I a beginner, and want someone to help me do some work? [05:23] where to start to become a motu ? [05:41] codemaniac, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/ [05:41] thanks UndiFineD [05:42] topic :) [05:42] UndiFineD: can i do the dev activities on a headless ubuntuserver install [05:42] i mean is there any GUI tools needed [05:43] for a MOTU [05:43] read the docs, it is all there [05:44] sure , but i was planning to set things up , thanks [06:25] codemaniac: Most of us use primarily command line tools even when we have a GUI available. It's certainly not needed. [06:30] ScottK: thanks , you turn my nitro booster on === plustwo_ is now known as plustwo [07:35] Do i need a development release of Ubuntu as a testbed ? [07:40] it helps if you can test your changes yourself (a VM is sufficient if you don't want to run the dev release) [07:42] is there any way someone can review/test the changes for me ? [07:43] i believe here comes the sponser === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [09:54] Daviey, may I bother you with some canonical job-related questions? [10:13] Zhenech: I can try.. [10:35] "what's the secret handshake?" === arijit is now known as codemaniac [10:54] directhex: I couldn't disclose anything like that!! [11:13] Daviey, I sent an application for https://tbe.taleo.net/NA3/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=CANONICAL&cws=1&rid=493 about two weeks ago and was wondering about possible roundtrip times in canonical-core for that (background: other possible employees want to know when I can be sure about joining them) [12:13] micahg: i'd like to help the chromium people to get their ppa uptodate. is help welcome and if yes where can i start? === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === ssweeny` is now known as ssweeny === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [14:12] anyone up for taking the last 1h slot on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable? [14:53] Lasall: yes, help is welcome, I'm gathering a list right now [15:17] micahg: :) just ping me [15:31] xnox: hi :) [15:32] ESphynx: hola =) [15:32] como esta [15:33] See http://mentors.debian.net/package/ecere-sdk :P pretty clean now ;) [15:42] ESphynx: I might have some time over the weekend to look at it again =) [15:42] xnox: Ah great :) that would be nice. [15:42] Would any of you here be able to assist me regarding integration problems with Unity? [15:42] guys: http://ecere.com/tmp/unityBug.png [15:43] is there some kind of weird override going on with maximized apps? > Unity realy doesn’t play nice with my GUI toolkit :| you’ll see the menu bar display twice under itself when maximized... and sometimes the clicks are gonna be off as well... I really wish we could work to resolve this [15:43] My app is meant to come up maximized...But with Unity, sometimes it will come up maximized messed up, sometimes maximized OK , sometimes not maximized (fine) [15:43] ESphynx: If it's a development issue, #ubuntu-deskotp is a better channel. [15:43] ScottK, thanks. [15:43] See that double menu bar :P not supposed to happen :P (And I don’t know how the heck it happens) === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [16:30] jbicha: I notice that you have uploaded/synced the latest live-boot. I've had the chance to test it in quantal in an nfsroot environment [16:31] jbicha: unfortunately, the version in quantal fails to optain an ip via dhcp. AFAIUI, this was fixed by this patch: http://live.debian.net/gitweb?p=live-boot.git;a=commit;h=990d419eacf614710c838ef743aa10ec0612ed7a [16:31] jbicha: as a quick test, I've installed the debian package 3.0~b1-1 in the nfsroot and rebuilt the initramfs [16:32] jbicha: while the system still fails to boot because of bug #1038075, at least dhcp worked [16:32] Launchpad bug 1038075 in linux (Ubuntu) "[quantal] overlayfs over r/o NFS mount triggers OOPS" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1038075 [16:32] jbicha: any objections to sync that into quantal? [16:32] no, please go ahead :) [16:33] jbicha: did you use/test live-boot for something in particular? [16:35] hrmpf. not in testing yet, so https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+localpackagediffs?field.name_filter=live-boot doesn't work [16:36] /whois siretart [16:36] siretart: you can use syncpackage from the ubuntu-dev-tools package [16:46] siretart: If it doesn't, that's a bug since we're syncing from Unstable this cycle. [16:47] But syncpackage is the way to go in any case. [16:47] siretart: one is not supposed to use the web interface for syncing, syncpackage is the proper way to do it [17:13] tumbleweed: can I haz an RSS for UDS Radiant Raccoon specs? =) [17:15] xnox: there, done :) [17:17] tumbleweed: do I need to do anything? is it the same feed? [17:17] same feed [17:17] cool =) [17:17] * tumbleweed goes out === mfisch` is now known as mfisch === mfisch is now known as Guest37216 === Guest37216 is now known as mfisch === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [19:15] hey, I have a quick question about ubuntu/debian packaging, is this a proper place to ask? [19:16] zachtib: this would be one place, #ubuntu-packaging might be a good place also. if for Debian, you might be looking for the debian mentors on oftc. [19:16] :) [19:16] TheLordOfTime, well, I'm doing this on Ubuntu :P [19:16] but i get my in-depth packaging help here, or on debian-mentors when i'm packaging for Debian on Ubuntu :P [19:16] * TheLordOfTime is not a MOTU, nor a packaging expert, btw. [19:17] so, I'm packaging a program for work, and it's build process is kind of cludgy, but it seems to compile ok... [19:18] the auto_install doesn't work, though, so I'd like to write my own inside of debian/rules. I've found override_dh_auto_install, but I can't seem to make use of env variables from inside debian/rules [19:18] zachtib: export them [19:19] tumbleweed, oh, ok [19:19] the override_dh_auto_install will run in a sub-make [19:19] let me see if that works... [19:20] tumbleweed, to clarify, I want to define this variable from within the override, and use it on subsequent lines in that override [19:21] or should I just do that at the top of the file? [19:21] zachtib: ah [19:21] so you can't really do that, because each line gets executed in a separate shell [19:21] if you want to have a multi-line chunk executed in the same shell, put ;\ at the end of each line [19:22] ah [19:22] (; for bash, \ to tell make that you're continuing the line) [19:22] and do start it with a set -e; or you'll not abort on errors [19:22] don't forget you also need to escape $ for shell variables. So you'll be saying $$foo [19:23] ok, that I did not know [19:24] $(make_variable) $$shell_variable [19:25] export DESTDIR=$(shell pwd)/debian/appname;\ mkdir -p $$(DESTDIR)/usr/bin [19:25] so, that didn't work =/ [19:25] no need to export it there [19:26] btw, you can use $(CURDIR)/debian/appname [19:26] ok [19:26] or even simple, just put usr/bin in debian/appname.dirs [19:26] dh_installdirs reads that [19:27] well, the script continues, I do want that variable later [19:28] i'm still getting DESTDIR: not found [19:28] $$DISTDIR not $$(DESTDIR) [19:28] oh [19:28] I'd define it globally as a make variable [19:29] * tumbleweed wouldn't be suprised if dh_auto_install already defines it [19:29] but I think you might be better of trying to coax dh_install to do the right thing [19:29] +1 on that [19:29] at some point, I need to just fix our build system [19:30] that would be best of course :) [19:30] it's a cludgy cmake script that only handles building the application binary [19:30] if it's just copying things to the rigth places, dh_install makes that trivial [19:30] and doesn't install any of the related files [19:30] (but dh_install doesn't help with renaming) [19:31] I really need to better learn what it's capable of [19:32] see its manpage [19:32] but for a friday afternoon, I'll be content to just get this done >.< [19:32] a lot since it can execute scripts :) [19:38] well, that takes care of my super-hacky approach... maybe next week I'll learn how to do it properly [19:39] I should probably just change the project to use autotools and then dh can do everything on its own [19:45] it can do that for cmake too [19:48] I know [19:48] so, another question, is there a way to use dch inside of a script (so it won't open the editor after inc the version number)? [19:50] nvm, found it [21:39] tumbleweed: are you a DD too? :) [21:40] ESphynx: yes [21:40] tumbleweed: oh :) did you notice I fixed the ecere package? :P [21:40] Just in case you were interested :P Guess you guys are busy , but I would really like it it made it into QQ :P [21:40] * tumbleweed hasn't been paying much attention to the world recently, I'm afraid :) [21:41] tumbleweed: http://mentors.debian.net/package/ecere-sdk ... also uploaded it with Ubuntu pacakging to the Launchpad bug [21:42] it's a complex package, non-trivial to review [21:42] for sure. [21:42] * tumbleweed leaves a tab open, maybe I can find some time [21:42] Ah nice :) [21:42] time is but a dimension of the world we live in :) [21:42] it is not as it seems :P [21:43] yet it does feel sparse :( [21:43] specially when you want to do so much :) [23:20] * micahg wonders if a GUI backport requesting tool would be good, based on how hard it was for the user in -packaging to get a backport request [23:20] * micahg thinks he has himself a EOY vacation project :) [23:23] * micahg guesses Qt wouldn't be allowed in ubuntu-dev-tools, a separate source maybe :) [23:25] * micahg guesses it could be done in pygtk, maybe that's the way to go...