[06:12] <smartboyhw> Hi!
[06:12] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, \o
[06:12] <SergioMeneses> what time is there?
[06:12] <smartboyhw> 14:12
[06:14] <SergioMeneses> nice
[06:17] <SergioMeneses> smartboyhw, Im going to sleep I see you later
[07:21] <phillw> smartboyhw: do you ever use facebook?
[07:24] <smartboyhw> No, that's the problem
[07:24] <smartboyhw> phillw: I need to go soon
[07:25] <smartboyhw> I'm 14, and I don't use Facebook, my Dad hates it
[07:25] <phillw> smartboyhw: get yourself a FB account, it is a means to and ends when used correctly,
[07:37] <phillw> ah, then it does need to be restricted... I'd have to ask about that.
[08:31] <green7> hello
[08:45] <phillw> gema: ping
[08:47] <gema> phillw: pong
[08:48] <phillw> gema: one of the guys explained it earlier... are you familiar with FB?
[08:48] <gema> yes
[08:49] <gema> phillw: I sent a request to join the group this morning
[08:49] <phillw> how do I make make you admin?
[08:49] <gema> after reading your email
[08:49] <gema> ahh, I have no idea
[08:49] <phillw> You are accepted.
[08:49] <gema> phillw: ahh, cool, thanks
[08:50] <phillw> I lost my chat with wxl who explained how to make him and the graphics lad admins
[08:50] <gema> phillw: I don't need to be admin, but I don't mind being either
[08:51] <phillw> gema: if we do decide to keep a FB presence (And after the survey, I think we should). then as per my email, I'd rather it be less spam infested
[08:52] <phillw> you have more experience than me on this side of things, but I have honestly found the lubuntu way on this to be pretty darn good in having little spam to clean up.
[08:53] <gema> phillw: you want to stop the mailing?
[08:54] <phillw> But, it is just a beta version. It has not even been put to any vote yet!
[08:55] <phillw> gema: no, It is the fact that "Tom, Dick & Harry" after a night on the alcohol cannot come on and scrawl obscene messages. I just prefer that we keep it as closed group.
[08:56] <gema> phillw: I don't mind either way
[08:56] <gema> I have meeting now, sorry , I have to go
[08:56] <phillw> okies. catch u later
[08:56] <gema> see ya later
[11:19] <smartboyhw> I need to kill phillw now
[14:01] <smartboyhw> balloons: ping
[14:24] <smartboyhw> balloons: ping
[14:24] <balloons> smartboyhw, lol
[14:25] <smartboyhw> I'm getting kicked out of #ubuntuforums, since those ops want to practise their skills of banning
[14:25] <smartboyhw> Anyway, problem solved
[14:26] <smartboyhw> Also, balloons, I got bullied by phillw today
[14:26] <smartboyhw> ..
[14:32] <smartboyhw> balloons: Can I make a blog post to promote Ubuntu Studio testing in your Orange Notebook:)
[14:33] <balloons> smartboyhw, I would encourage you to blog.. and ubuntu planet is a great way to get your posts to a wider audience
[14:33] <smartboyhw> Ubuntu planet?
[14:33] <balloons> more so than even having me post it :-)
[14:33] <balloons> http://planet.ubuntu.com/
[14:35] <smartboyhw> balloons: I am not yet a Ubuntu member, how can I write one!??
[14:37] <njin> balloons, is this a bug, the pointer follow the right click, till now reporducible only in drupal  http://youtu.be/ZJUMIYJgfWk
[14:37] <njin> ?
[14:39] <balloons> njin, hmm
[14:39] <balloons> let me watch again
[14:39] <balloons> smartboyhw, ahh yes! your still working towards membershio
[14:39] <smartboyhw> balloons: After njin, deal with my problem 10 lines above. (njin, you first)
[14:39] <balloons> I would be happy to link to your blog and post once your up and running
[14:39] <smartboyhw> OK
[14:42] <smartboyhw> Original link: http://smartboyhwubuntu.blogspot.co.uk/
[14:42] <balloons> and eventually you can apply for membership and end up on planet yourself
[14:42] <smartboyhw> balloons: That will take me till November
[14:43] <balloons> njin, ok I get it now
[14:43] <balloons> umm.. could be a browser thing or something else
[14:43] <balloons> might be a drupal bug
[14:43] <balloons> likely not anything we've coded
[14:44] <njin> I think to ask to drupal guys then
[14:44] <balloons> it's kind of interesting but doesn't hurt anything really
[14:44] <balloons> njin, yes, asking them is a goo dbet
[14:44] <njin> ok, thanks,
[14:47] <smartboyhw> balloons: Will you link my blog?
[14:47] <smartboyhw> BTW, I'm on Google+, count me in then
[14:52] <balloons> smartboyhw, yes I will link after you have a post up
[14:52] <balloons> smartboyhw, kk :)
[14:53] <smartboyhw> !
[14:53] <smartboyhw> balloons: I really like Google+ and don't like Facebook
[14:54] <balloons> smartboyhw, yep.. everyone has there own preferences
[14:54] <smartboyhw> Who will set up the QA page on Google+?
[15:47] <phillw> balloons: HIYAS, SAFELY ARRIVED.
[15:47] <phillw> oops, caps!
[15:49] <balloons> phillw, safely arrived?
[15:49] <smartboyhw> balloons: phillw bullied me with a PM about COPPA
[15:51]  * balloons is quadra-tasked and confused
[15:51] <phillw> balloons: yup, I'm safely on the East of England, having travelled over the spine (well, in some cases through) it.
[15:51] <smartboyhw> ...
[15:51] <phillw> balloons: smartboyhw what was offered to smartboyhw wss
[15:52] <smartboyhw> phillw said that I messed with COPPA
[15:52] <smartboyhw> and they will extradite the a**hole
[15:52] <balloons> phillw, smartboyhw give me 10 mins :-)
[15:52] <smartboyhw> But then I'm NOT in USA
[15:52] <phillw> was a COPPA account, protected by law in USA. It is, of course for smartboyhw and his parents to decide if they wish to make use of such a faility.
[15:53] <smartboyhw> phillw: I'm not a USA citizen, sorry
[15:53] <phillw> smartboyhw: neither is our penguin, but he is protected by the same rules.
[15:53] <smartboyhw> ...
[15:53] <smartboyhw> BTW, COPPA was for under 13, right?
[15:54] <phillw> you mess with his accounts, you mess with people you really shouldn't do. It was offered as a way to calm your parents down. It is in no way mandatory for anyone & runs fully independent of Ubuntu.
[15:55] <phillw> it runs up to 16
[15:55] <smartboyhw> phillw: My mum knows about it, and she has NO comments.
[15:55] <smartboyhw> I'm not in USA, again, I have to state
[15:57] <phillw> smartboyhw: neither is Nathan, just that his email system goes via it. That means that an ex senior moderator for AOL looks after all his accounts. He left because they were weakening the rules, He has not and offers that protection to any who wish it.
[16:01] <phillw> balloons: on the plus side, it seems julien's couple of days off has reaped benefits, He's ploughing through bug reports faster than my email can keep up with :D
[16:01] <njin> can someone remeber if seen plymouth starting up a server installation ?
[16:01] <balloons> ok, back
[16:01] <balloons> well.. at least in channel
[16:02] <balloons> my brain is possibly still o n vaca
[16:02] <phillw> njin: I did, it hung.
[16:02] <njin> ah, then is not a mine problem... bug 1030094
[16:03] <phillw> njin: no, I was using encryption nor asking a VM to run as VM
[16:03] <xnox> njin: also bug 1038055
[16:03] <njin> but the strange thing is why plymouth is started in a server '
[16:03] <phillw> *I was NOT using encryption*
[16:03] <xnox> similar but slightly different
[16:04] <phillw> njin: it sure surprised the hell out of me
[16:04] <njin> just to ask the passphrase ?
[16:04] <xnox> njin: plymouth is actually printing all the console messages as well =)
[16:04] <phillw> I just got the start of the 4 dots on my remote VM.
[16:05] <phillw> I did volunteer that VM to anyone from server area to use, had no takers. The offer is still there.
[16:06] <njin> I other way I can see just black screen during boot
[16:08] <njin> bah, let's write down a testcase, so balloons this night go to sleep (dancing) one hr before
[16:08] <phillw> njin: from my distant memory, you can ask a KVM to switch to console; I'm just out of practice. I do have my training notes with me, so I'm up for it if you are.
[16:08]  * balloons is SO SO SO lost by the scrollback in here
[16:09] <phillw> balloons: server install is calling GUI!
[16:09] <phillw> upon it's 1st boot.
[16:09] <phillw> not good for server that has no 'X'.
[16:11] <phillw> njin: I take it that we no longer have the alternate install for any ubuntu flavour?
[16:11] <phillw> Is it ubiquity, or tough titties?
[16:12] <phillw> If the minimal install iso is stable, I can try via that... make the most of me having a good speed link this week!
[16:13] <njin> phillw, oh that the only thing good here it the hot italy
[16:14] <njin> it7in
[16:14] <njin> ahi this keybd want to fly i think
[16:15] <njin> phillw, seems to me that we have lubuntu minimal from the server software selection
[16:17]  * njin going to cook, spaghetti al ragu alla bolognese
[16:20] <phillw> not sure of ragu, I cooked spaghetti with a tomatoe & chille sauce, served with salmon fillet that had been gently cooked in garlic butter..... Pretty damn good, do try it some time - as always, it may sound mad, but it "just works"
[16:21] <phillw> the garlic in the butter really draws the flavour out of salmon, whilst most people would expect it to over-power it.
[16:21]  * roadmr is now drooling :O~
[16:22] <phillw> long time since I've been discussing recipes, good to catch up now and again.
[16:24]  * phillw has just died and gone to heaven.... 1,7 Mb/s when I'm lucky to get 512mb/s
[16:25] <balloons> phillw, you should housesit more often!
[16:25] <phillw> 3.1 sound even now works!
[16:25] <balloons> fresh air, a dog companion and high speed internet!
[16:26] <phillw> balloons: life could be worse :)
[16:26] <balloons> njin, ok so let's catch up on the server testcase migration.. where are we at?
[16:27] <balloons> phillw, btw.. did you go through the wiki and info on testcase admin stuff?
[16:27] <njin> balloons, cooking tomatoes
[16:27] <phillw> balloons: it doesn't install.
[16:27] <balloons> njin, ahh.. please don't let me interrupt!
[16:27] <balloons> :-)
[16:27] <phillw> wqell, actually it does, it just goes into GUI on boot up and hangs.
[16:29] <phillw> I did mention it on the area, but never even got a reply, so installed 12.04 for the user who was happy to use 12.10
[16:30] <njin> balloons, remaining the 3 maas+ raid1+preseed+jeos+4 run at once and 1 optional
[16:30] <njin> 6 mandatory 4 run a t once and 1 optional
[16:30] <phillw> njin: has ssh + LAMP been tried?
[16:31] <balloons> njin, excellent work!
[16:31] <njin> sure
[16:31] <phillw> that is what fails for me.
[16:31] <balloons> phillw, lol.., there's no need to "install" for the testcase admin stuff
[16:31] <njin> phillw, everytestcase is working
[16:31] <balloons> I wanted to know if you had tried out and understood how to do it
[16:32] <phillw> balloons: the description of QA is, from the majority who replied is ... "That it works".... the rest is useless.?
[16:32] <njin> I've tried out every testcase that I write
[16:32] <balloons> phillw, ?
[16:33] <phillw> as ubuntu ships server without ssh access, you have to ask yourself if it is a server environment
[16:33] <njin> balloons, but for the Ubun tu Cloud Image we have a testcase?
[16:34] <balloons> njin, could is hard to test be end users
[16:34] <njin> first time I see it
[16:34] <balloons> *cloud
[16:35] <njin> sorry, but what mean ubuntu Cloud Image (instance) ?
[16:35] <phillw> I'll leave you two to chat, I have my views quite plain that shipping a server with no ssh; where you have to install it afterwards is shear idiocy. If you cannot ssh in, how do install it?
[16:35] <njin> mean server or client ?
[16:36] <phillw> to accept ssh connection
[16:37] <balloons> phillw, why would you ship an os with open services by default?
[16:37] <balloons> anyways..
[16:37] <njin> phillw, why you cannot install openssh ?
[16:37] <phillw> njin: because you cannot ssh into the remote client to install it?
[16:38] <phillw> njin: how else do you securely log into a new server installation?
[16:38] <njin> Ah, i was thinking that you are installing a openssh server from scratch
[16:39] <phillw> njin: nope, just the ability to ssh into a new installed server.
[16:40] <njin> and the server is not working?
[16:40] <phillw> I'm lucky that I can go in via the MAC address and virt-manager to get access.
[16:41] <phillw> njin: the server works fine, just that ssh access is an 'optional extra'.
[16:41] <njin> sure and I don't know why
[16:41] <phillw> it did not used to be.
[16:42] <njin> probably a security thing
[16:42] <phillw> I was told, curtly, that it is now an optional add on.
[16:42] <njin> going to boiling tomatoes, sorry
[16:43] <phillw> "security"... yeah, that secure you cannot even log onto a newly installed server?
[16:43] <phillw> njin: drop them into boiling water, 5 seconds... then they peel dead easy.
[16:44] <phillw> after skinned, they cook really well.
[16:46] <balloons> njin, you make me dream of Italy again
[16:46] <balloons> I'll brb.. switching pc's
[16:47] <phillw> k
[17:29] <phillw> balloons: ping
[17:36] <njin> phillw, yes, but you don't tell me that they are hooooottt, now I've to type with my tongue
[17:38] <phillw> lol
[17:38] <phillw> if you can type with your tongue, you will be popular with the girls :D
[17:39] <phillw> balloons: please avert you eyes from the last comment!
[17:40] <njin> lol
[17:42] <phillw> njin: just reached critical mass, the FB area is no longer a number... we are now https://www.facebook.com/groups/UbuntuQA/
[19:22] <njin> balloons, can i proceed with server preseed ?
[19:23] <balloons> njin, sure
[19:23] <njin> ok
[19:23] <balloons> phillw, fb is legion
[19:26] <phillw> balloons: ??
[19:26] <balloons> the borg.. a collective
[19:26] <balloons> lol
[19:26] <balloons> meaning you are a force to be reckoned with
[19:27] <phillw> balloons: with a lttle beg... we are now https://www.facebook.com/groups/UbuntuQA/
[19:27] <phillw> we are no longer just a number :P
[19:28] <balloons> looks good
[19:28] <balloons> I'm knee deep in precise
[19:29] <phillw> 20 people, do I have permission to sort a banner out now that we official on FB?
[19:29] <balloons> phillw, but of course!
[19:29] <balloons> we need a cool banner ala lubuntu artwork
[19:29] <balloons> that's some nice stuff
[19:30] <phillw> I'm VERY good at begging :)
[19:31] <phillw> is there any standard artwork for QA that he needs to include?
[19:34] <phillw> ....me... knowing rafael, I'd like to give him a blank canvas and let him him produce a couple of different ones upon we will vote. That is the lubuntu way. and the only way I know... Ubuntu uses a beauty competition,... But, you are the boss.
[19:41] <balloons> heh
[19:41] <balloons> no i don't think we have official artwork
[19:41] <balloons> let him come up with some designs
[19:43] <phillw> balloons: can you /j #sii please
[20:36] <njin> balloons, preseed is done, remain minimal (jeos), raid1, 3maas, 4 run at once and 1 optional.
[20:36] <njin> Now is late for me
[20:36] <balloons> yes!
[20:36] <balloons> get some sleep njn
[20:37] <njin> tomorrow i go on with the remaining
[20:37] <balloons> we're very close
[20:37] <balloons> very good work
[20:37] <njin> ok, thanks
[20:37] <njin> do you need some other more urgent or I finish with server
[20:38] <njin> balloons, good weekend ^^