[00:00] <cc11rocks> TJ- What if I was using one kernel for one OS and another for another?
[00:00] <Jordan_U> cc11rocks: You don't need a separate partition for /boot/. It can be in a logical volume (it can even just be a directory in your root filesystem, which itself can be stored in an LVM logical volume).
[00:00] <TJ-> cc11rocks: For example, on the HD in this laptop I have around 12 LVM file-systems defined. I use them for testing new versions of Ubuntu and different architectures. Once they are no longer needed, I return their space to the free pool so I can reuse it
[00:01] <WeThePeople> kevincheri, did you type ptunnel --debug ?
[00:01] <TJ-> cc11rocks: If you want Windows on there too, you'd need to use another primary partition (e.g. sda3) for that.
[00:01] <Jordan_U> cc11rocks: Different OSs/distributions need to have their own /boot/ directories. Trying to share /boot/ between multiple distributions is a bad idea.
[00:01] <TJ-> cc11rocks: otherwise, all Linux's can do LVM
[00:01] <cc11rocks> TJ- No Windows for me
[00:01] <kevincheri> there seems no such option, "debug"
[00:02] <sportsfreund> hey guys
[00:02] <sportsfreund> I downloaded the bootinfoscript
[00:03] <WeThePeople> kevincheri, copy and paste this>>> ptunnel --debug  <<<
[00:03] <sportsfreund> but when i entered the "sudo..." command it says "cannot find file or directory
[00:03] <kevincheri> root@Lynx:~# ptunnel --debug
[00:03] <kevincheri> ptunnel v 0.71.
[00:03] <kevincheri> Usage:   ptunnel -p <addr> -lp <port> -da <dest_addr> -dp <dest_port> [-m max_tunnels] [-v verbosity] [-f logfile]
[00:03] <kevincheri>          ptunnel [-m max_threads] [-v verbosity] [-c <device>]
[00:03] <kevincheri>      -p: Set address of peer running packet forwarder. This causes
[00:03] <FloodBot1> kevincheri: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:03] <cc11rocks> So : LVM > OS (/boot, /, /home) && OS2 (/boot, /, home) && OS3 (/boot, /, home) && etc if they are all ext4? GRUB kicks through the LVM and allows choice of /boot partition to choose?
[00:03] <Jordan_U> sportsfreund: Follow the directions @ http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ .
[00:03] <WeThePeople> kevincheri, use paste.ubuntu.com for that
[00:04] <cc11rocks> That's a hierarchical style I did in case you can't figure it out. The LVM is at the top, which is followed at the bottom by all the OS's and their components
[00:04] <TJ-> cc11rocks: Well I've always managed with one partition for /boot/ across several Linux OSes, but if Jordan_U knows of problems then it would be best to put the '/boot/' for each flavour separately
[00:06] <Jordan_U> cc11rocks: Yes, but having a separate logical volume for /boot/ is pointless in this case. It would make more sense to have OS1 (/, /home) && OS2 (/, /home) && OS3 (/, /home). For that matter, I would just do OS1 (/) && OS2 (/) && OS3 (/).
[00:07] <TJ-> cc11rocks: depends if you want to do lots of testing of different OS, or are going to settle to one or two
[00:07] <cc11rocks> Can the OS's access other OS's /home dir(s) if it was like the OS1(/, /home) && OS2(/, home), etc?
[00:07] <TJ-> cc11rocks: And if you're testing them, it's much easier inside virtual machines
[00:07] <WeThePeople> kevincheri, make sure you run sudo
[00:07] <kevincheri> I am running a sRoot
[00:07] <Jordan_U> TJ-: There's no easy way to tell which kernel belongs to which distribution, so if you use grub-mkconfig/update-grub (rather than writing your grub.cfg manually) you will get entries for example that have Ubuntu set to boot with one of your Debian kernels.
[00:07] <cc11rocks> TJ- I plan to have 3 installed
[00:07] <cc11rocks> and at least one for testing
[00:08] <TJ-> Jordan_U: I don't get that problem - but then again I've customised /etc/grub.d/
[00:08] <cc11rocks> GRUB isn't on root is it?
[00:09] <Jordan_U> cc11rocks: Yes, they can access the other distributions' /home/ directory with or without the home directory being stored on a separate logical volume. You really seem to be separating things without any reason.
[00:09] <cc11rocks> If so, that would make a whole lot of sense. I always thought it was on boot
[00:09] <WeThePeople> kevincheri, what distro do you use?
[00:09] <kevincheri> Kubuntu 11.10
[00:10] <kevincheri> will try with the GUI
[00:10] <kevincheri> I have tried on a diff VPS and it works
[00:10] <cc11rocks> I want to keep my home and root partitions separate as I have found different DE's inferfere with each other
[00:10] <Jordan_U> cc11rocks: Grub's boot sector is installed to the Master Boot Record, and its configuration file (grub.cfg) and modules are stored in /boot/grub/. If you don't have a separate /boot/ partition then the /boot/grub/ directory is simply a directory on your root filesystem (which is perfectly normal).
[00:10] <TJ-> cc11rocks: grub is 2/3 things generally. It is 384 bytes of  boot-strap code in sector 0 of the boot device... it is several 512-bytes sectors from sector 1 to the first partition, containing bootloader code sufficient to find the /boot/ partition and hand off to that. Then it's the modules in /boot/grub/ that draw and configure the GRUB menu and hand over to the OS kernels
[00:10] <cc11rocks> At least on the same /home dir
[00:13] <Jordan_U> cc11rocks: Please try to use more clear language. Do you want these distributions to all share the same /home/ volume or do you want each distribution to have its own /home/ separate from the others (so that they don't interfere with each other).
[00:13] <cc11rocks> Separate (Hence, OS1 (/home, /) && OS2(/home, /)... etc in my original layout
[00:13] <cc11rocks> )
[00:15] <mirak> there is a lot of tearing in the movies when Xorg composite extension is enabled
[00:15] <mirak> when will that be fixed ???
[00:15] <Jordan_U> cc11rocks: I think I understand your confusion then. Read the following sentence carefully: One of the main reasons that people keep /home/ in a separate partition/volume is so that they *can* share it between multiple distributions.
[00:16] <Jordan_U> cc11rocks: If you keep /home/ as part of your root filesystem, then it will *not* be shared between distributions. Each distribution will have their own /home/ directory (which is part of their own root fileystem) and will ignore the other distributions' home directories.
[00:16] <zykotick9> cc11rocks: fyi - sharing /home between distro/releases can cause problems if versions of software is different
[00:17] <cc11rocks> So : MBR > GRUB > LVM > OS1 (/ > "GRUB conf1") && OS2 (/ > "GRUB conf2") && OS3 (/ > "GRUB conf3") //Still discussing /home so I left it out for now
[00:17] <sportsfreund> how can i post the Result.txt?
[00:18] <cc11rocks> I want the disto's to be able to ACCESS each others /home dir, not use it
[00:18] <Jordan_U> cc11rocks: Any distribution can access any directory of any of the other distributions, no matter what you do.
[00:18] <sportsfreund> how can I post the result.txt?
[00:19] <Jordan_U> sportsfreund: Open it in a text editor and copy and paste it to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com then post the URL for the paste here.
[00:20] <cc11rocks> I have to go eat but So : MBR > GRUB > LVM > OS1 (/home, / > "GRUB conf1") && OS2 (/home, / > "GRUB conf2") && OS3 (/home, / > "GRUB conf3") should work for what I want to do correct?
[00:20] <histo1> !paste | sportsfreund
[00:20] <ubottu> sportsfreund: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[00:20] <sportsfreund> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1151726/
[00:20] <rexis> does anyone know how to pop up channel list in Quasel irc
[00:20] <soliloquy1> Hi. I'm running Xubuntu, but would like to get Unity's global menu. How do I do this?
[00:21] <cc11rocks> If you do not paste soon, I'll read it when I come back. Thank you SO very much for your help guys! Very patient people and I appreciate it :)
[00:21] <Jordan_U> cc11rocks: I am almost certain that the ideal configuration for you is to have only one partition/logical volume  for each distribution (or two if you count the swap partition).
[00:22] <sportsfreund> I posted the URL (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1151726/)
[00:22] <Jordan_U> cc11rocks: So OS1 will have 1 partition / logical volume containing '/' (and everything will go inside that) and OS2 will have a different partition/logical volume containing its '/' (and everything of OS2 will go inside that), etc. Do you understand?
[00:22] <sportsfreund> now how can i boot win 7 again?
[00:22] <histo1> cc11rocks: the other distros should be able to mount your other home partitions
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[00:26] <soliloquy1> Hi. I'm running Xubuntu, but would like to get Unity's global menu. How do I do this?
[00:26] <sportsfreund> anyone still there to help me out?
[00:26] <sportsfreund> I posted the "result.txt" through http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1151726/
[00:26] <sportsfreund> and i want to boot win 7 again
[00:26] <blaggard> solilo, have you tried looking around for extensions?
[00:27] <histo> sportsfreund: do you get a grub menu when your system boots or what happens?
[00:28] <sportsfreund> @ histo: when  i dont enter the bios menu, it simply starts ubuntu without asking
[00:29] <sportsfreund> when I boot the SSD through entering the bios menu it says "error unknown filesystem grub rescue"
[00:29] <histo> sportsfreund: are you booting to the ubuntu cd still? or off the hard drive?
[00:29] <nejode> sportsfreund, do you want to retain the ubuntu install?
[00:30] <laumonier> hi what is the name of compatibilty package between i386 and amd 64?
[00:30] <sportsfreund> I boot from the hard drive
[00:31] <histo> sportsfreund: can you paste /etc/default/grub file please
[00:31] <sportsfreund> and I want to keep ubuntu (not sure what "retain" means)
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[00:32] <histo> sportsfreund: it looks like grub isn't aware that windows is on the second hard drive is the issue
[00:32] <histo> !grub2 | sportsfreund
[00:32] <ubottu> sportsfreund: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[00:33] <sportsfreund> @ ubotto: i installed win 7 first and after that ubuntu
[00:33] <sportsfreund> @ histo : how can I find the default grub file in ubuntu 12.04?
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[00:34] <histo> sportsfreund: pastebin the output of sudo update-grub && cat /etc/default/grub
[00:35] <histo> sportsfreund: also you have grub installed on both sda and sdb
[00:37] <sportsfreund> after sudo grub-update it says:
[00:37] <sportsfreund> Generating grub.cfg ...
[00:37] <histo> sportsfreund: just pastebin the results
[00:37] <sportsfreund> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1151741/
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[00:37] <aguitel> i am using nouveau driver and the window blink sometimes ,how fix this?
[00:37] <histo> sportsfreund: yea it's not seeing windows on /dev/sdb
[00:38] <sportsfreund> how can i fix it?
[00:38] <datruth_> how can I kill a proc that wont die?
[00:39] <histo> sportsfreund: hold up trying to find a fix
[00:39] <histo> datruth_: kill -9 pid
[00:39] <datruth_> yes that doesn't work
[00:40] <datruth_> it  just stays there
[00:40] <datruth_> wait I think it finally died
[00:40] <datruth_> histo: can I use something other than dolphine? it seems to crash everyday
[00:40] <histo> datruth_: you can use whatever you want
[00:43] <sportsfreund> @histo: i didnt define one hard drive as master and the as slave / raid...maybe thats the problem
[00:44] <hstry> how do I get unlimited bash history? google said to put "unset HISTFILESIZE" and "export HISTSIZE=300000" in .bashrc, but that doesn't work.
[00:44] <nejode> sportsfreund, if you boot fron the live CD... cant you see your windows install?
[00:45] <soliloquy1> I can't launch myunity; help please?
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[00:45] <blaggard> so would this be the place to ask about some new hardware I am considering?
[00:45] <histo> sportsfreund: cna you see the windows drive in ubuntu?
[00:45] <histo> sportsfreund: and are the sata drives or ide drives?
[00:45] <blaggard> I have some concerns regarding ubuntu 12.04
[00:45] <sportsfreund> yes i can see windows drive in ubuntu
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> soliloquy1, fresh install can you give some info.
[00:45] <blaggard> soliloquy, do you get an error message?
[00:46] <sportsfreund> under "devices"
[00:46] <kingnebex> can ny 1 help me i want to unlock a modem
[00:46] <aguitel> i am using nouveau driver and the window blink sometimes ,how fix this?
[00:47] <maze> Hey!
[00:47] <lauratika> any good idea to have an auto vpn conection script?... when vpn drops will conect automatically
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[00:48] <TJ-> hstry: Do "man bash" and then search down to the HISTORY section using / then ^HISTORY and press Enter
[00:48] <TJ-> lauratika: openvpn will do that for you
[00:50] <histo> sportsfreund: you need to gksu /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[00:50] <histo> sportsfreund: in there put the following at the bottom
[00:50] <lauratika> i installed already but oew to a bug connect automatically wont work.
[00:50] <blaggard> how bad is the hit on battery life in 12.04?
[00:50] <TaJMoX> Help! Re-sizing windows is a pain! I only get like 1 pixel to grab the side of a window when I want to resize it.. Can I make this threshold greater? Maybe 4 pixels?
[00:50] <nejode> sportsfreund, this is a little bit old, but the last post is from october 2011, maybe it'll help: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/459054
[00:50] <maze> How do I watch netflix on ubuntu...?
[00:50] <blaggard> if one were using a laptop?
[00:50] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 459054 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity partition step does not show some hard drives" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[00:51] <TJ-> lauratika: what bug is that? I use openvpn had never had an issue with reconnects
[00:51] <rafael_oliveira> hi
[00:51] <maze> hi
[00:51] <TJ-> maze: You don't. Netflix requires Microsoft Silverlight DRM. Best option is a virtual machine with MS Windows installed in
[00:51] <blaggard> hi?
[00:52] <maze> ok thanks tj
[00:52] <blaggard> Maze, go get virtualbox for ubuntu
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[00:52] <sinfuzi0n> Whats the Ubuntu random channel for just hanging out/bsing?
[00:52] <blaggard> how much horsepower do you have to work with?
[00:52] <TJ-> blaggard: or just use the kernel's own KVM with Virtual Machine Manager
[00:52] <TJ-> sinfuzi0n: ubuntu-social
[00:53] <histo> sportsfreund: Sorry gksu gedit /etc/grub.d/40_custom  and add these contents to the bottom of the file http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1151759/  then save and sudo update-grub and reboot
[00:53] <blaggard> TJ: I had no idea that was there...
[00:53] <histo> sinfuzi0n: ubuntu-offtopic you mean?
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[00:53] <TJ-> blaggard: It's well hidden :)
[00:54] <nejode> sportsfreund, http://erickoo.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/how-to-add-vista-partition-to-grub-2-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
[00:54] <sportsfreund> but I dont have win xp
[00:54] <sportsfreund> I have win 7
[00:54] <sinfuzi0n> I'm not sure, either or.
[00:54] <sinfuzi0n> =)
[00:54] <sportsfreund> (64bit)
[00:55] <sinfuzi0n> What client with a GUI do you guys recommend for IRC? I'm just getting back into linux again to learn Python, but ircII just isn't cutting it for me right now
[00:55] <lauratika> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/280571
[00:55] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 280571 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "NetworkManager does not auto-connect to VPNs marked "Connect Automatically"" [Medium,Triaged]
[00:55] <lauratika> there you go TJ-
[00:55] <TJ-> sinfuzi0n: xchat
[00:55] <sinfuzi0n> Thanks, TJ
[00:56] <randomDude1> i'm looking for a way to re-enable "copy date" from the date widget on the panel
[00:56] <TJ-> lauratika: ah! I don't use network-manager to make the connections; I have it set directly as an /etc/openvpn/xxxx.conf files
[00:57] <lauratika> yeah but i need the keyring thingy bit of a pain in the ars*
[00:57] <cc11rocks> I am back. TJ- Wouldn't using a LVM for each distro ruin the purpose of LVMs? Or have all the LVM's under a single LVM?
[00:58] <maze> Whats a good way to learn python to make ubuntu desktop apps?
[00:58] <kamilo> hello
[00:58] <maze> Hi Kamilo!
[00:59] <HELP> My X server won't work anymore. I didn't change anything and I can't get in to X
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[00:59] <sportsfreund> @histo: nothing changed unfortunately
[00:59] <TJ-> cc11rocks: You misunderstand. LVM is the term for Logical Volume Management. That consists of three layers: Physical Volumes (PV), Volume Groups (VG) and Logical Volumes (LV). physical disks/partitions are tagged as PVs. PVs are attached to VGs. LVs are assigned from the free space available in a VG. The LVs have file-systems inside them
[01:00] <soliloquy1> MyUnity isn't launching. Why not?
[01:00] <sportsfreund> I did everything exactly like u said
[01:00] <TJ-> soliloquy1: It went out for launch maybe? :p
[01:00] <maze> lo
[01:00] <maze> lol
[01:00] <soliloquy1> TJ-: I'm sorry - what do you mean?
[01:00] <cc11rocks> TJ- Oh, I see...So I was asking the wrong questions most of the time, right?
[01:00] <TJ-> soliloquy1: You'll have to provide much more information than that if we're going to answer that :D
[01:00] <nejode> sportsfreund, http://askubuntu.com/questions/125191/another-windows-7-entry-missing-from-grub2-question
[01:01] <kingnebex> i cant open my trash...can any 1 plz help
[01:01] <TJ-> cc11rocks: not so much, you were focusing on how to use the LVs which is what you should be focusing on
[01:01] <TJ-> cc11rocks: but it helps to understand how they are managed
[01:01] <soliloquy1> JT-: I installed it and Unity (on a Xubuntu install) - Unity 3d Session launches fine. When I try to launch myunity, I get this error" "This application has raised an unexpected error and must abort. [6] Type mismatch: wanted Integer, got String instead. MDesktop.?.0"
[01:02] <th0r> kingnebex: check the ownership and permissions on ~/.local.share/Trash
[01:02] <vico_> hola
[01:02] <soliloquy1> Additionally, I'd like to make that pesky launcher bar go away; I run a dock and don't need/want it. AT ALL.
[01:02] <maze> Do I need antivirus for my windows virtual machine on ubuntu?
[01:03] <vico_> como configurar mi monitor en ubuntu ayudaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:03] <th0r> !es
[01:03] <ubottu> En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.
[01:03] <TJ-> cc11rocks: the usual processs is "pvcreate /dev/sdXY" then "vgcreate MyVGName /dev/sdXY" then "lvcreate --size 10G --name boot MyVGName"
[01:03] <cc11rocks> TJ- MBR > GRUB > LVM && /swap > PV > VG > (LV1 [/, /home]) && (LV2 [/, /home]) && (LV3[/, /home]) && (LV4[/, /home])
[01:03] <TJ-> cc11rocks: then you'd repeat the "lvcreate..." step for each LV you want to assign that will contain a file-system (ext4 or whatever)
[01:03] <soliloquy1> vico_: #ubuntu-es por favor
[01:04] <TJ-> cc11rocks: You can put swap in an LV too
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[01:05] <cc11rocks> TJ- But wouldn't it better to just put it outside, since it can be used as a "general system" part (similar to the GRUB)? I'm talking about purely psycological/understanding
[01:05] <cc11rocks> And you would only have to use the space for SWAP once
[01:06] <TJ-> cc11rocks: If it is inside an LV you can always shrink/expand it in future if needed
[01:06] <soliloquy1> vico__: ayuda en espanol es en #ubuntu-es
[01:06] <vico_> ok
[01:06] <TJ-> cc11rocks: e.g. you double the RAM and need to double the swap to store the hibernate image
[01:06] <cc11rocks> TJ- MBR > GRUB > LVM > PV > VG > (LV1 [/, /home]) && (LV2 [/, /home]) && (LV3[/, /home]) && (LV4[/, /home]) && /swap
[01:07] <TJ-> cc11rocks: I reckon you should take a uni course on LVM - you'd get a distinction :P
[01:07] <cc11rocks> Would  /swap have to also be in a LV?
[01:08] <TJ-> cc11rocks: it doesn't have to be in an LV... it could be in a primary partition on the hard drive, but then its fixed for ever in place
[01:08] <cc11rocks> University course? I'm still in HS :(
[01:08] <TJ-> cc11rocks: Go to top of the class then. I know many sys-admins can't get their head around LVM!
[01:08] <cc11rocks> But if it was in the LVM, it would have to be in an LV?
[01:08] <TJ-> cc11rocks: I won't confuse you with LVM+RAID :p
[01:09] <cc11rocks> I understand the basics of RAID (more than LVM at least :P)
[01:09] <TJ-> cc11rocks: Yes. All assignments are done in LVs. They are like partitions on raw hard disks
[01:09] <TJ-> cc11rocks: Try getting your head around LVM+RAID+encryption ... that is fun for a weekend :)
[01:09] <cc11rocks> TJ- Hopefully final : MBR > GRUB > LVM && /swap > PV > VG > (LV1 [/, /home]) && (LV2 [/, /home]) && (LV3[/, /home]) && (LV4[/, /home]) && (LV5[/swap])
[01:10] <cc11rocks> And I could add/remove LV's as neccessary, as well as change the size of each LV and partition inside eachh LV, correct?
[01:10] <TJ-> cc11rocks: You have two swaps there. You only need one of them.
[01:10] <gav> Hi, is there a command to terminate all programs?
[01:10] <TJ-> cc11rocks: yes, that's correct... the beauty of LVM
[01:10] <cc11rocks> Oh crap...I was editing that from earlier, forgot to remove it sorry
[01:10] <cc11rocks> TJ- MBR > GRUB > LVM > PV > VG > (LV1 [/, /home]) && (LV2 [/, /home]) && (LV3[/, /home]) && (LV4[/, /home]) && (LV5[/swap])
[01:11] <gav> hello
[01:11] <TJ-> gav: see "man telinit" and look at runlevel 1
[01:11] <zykotick9> gav: "sudo shutdown -h now" ;)
[01:12] <gav> to terminate all programs?
[01:12] <cc11rocks> And how to move current sys to LVM? And it needs to be separated since everything is on "/" (it came like this, didn't/wouldn't have set it up like this)?
[01:12] <TJ-> cc11rocks: looks good to me. I always have one LV for "/home/all/" and in that I put directories to mount shared LVs like VirtualMachine, BackUp, Media, SourceCode, Projects and so on
[01:13] <gav> thank you
[01:13] <TJ-> cc11rocks: doing the actual conversion is the hard part... you have to shrink what you have first. The best way is from a liveCD image
[01:14] <jagosix> Hello People
[01:14] <imyoulanda> hello
[01:14] <cc11rocks> It's ~100GB or so...It's a 750GB drive, and with formatting above 600GB...So shrink, create LVM and such, then what?
[01:14] <jagosix> can anyone help me with  Respondus LockDown Browser Installation in linux ?
[01:15] <TJ-> cc11rocks: so you'd do a "resize2fs /dev/sdXY 12G" for instance, to shrink sdaXY to 12Gigabytes. Then you'd shrink the partition sdXY. You can do that using gparted, the graphical partition editor
[01:15] <jagosix> ubuntu
[01:16] <cc11rocks> TJ- You are nuts using your time to teach n00bs (like me). I really do appreciate it. How did you learn this stuff (college?)?
[01:16] <om_rahul> pls can anyone pls suggest me good dvd burner and copier for ubuntu
[01:16] <TJ-> cc11rocks: with the LVs created copy the file-system in sdXY (your existing primary partition) into on of the LVs, then get GRUB and the fstab correctly set up
[01:17] <TJ-> cc11rocks: Nope. Just by doing it myself, and reading the manuals
[01:17] <cc11rocks> Wow. You are very intelligent or/and have a TON of time
[01:17] <TJ-> cc11rocks: :p
[01:18] <TJ-> cc11rocks: It's more that I won't take no for an answer... I'll keep on banging my head at it
[01:18] <moes> Ubuntu-10.04...which jre from the package manager for this distro
[01:18] <TJ-> moes: check on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:19] <cc11rocks> TJ- So once I do all of that run a grub-update or what?
[01:19] <cc11rocks> From LiveCD?
[01:19] <TJ-> cc11rocks: do that all from liveCD or live USB stick, whichever is easier
[01:20] <TJ-> cc11rocks: then once it's done boot the new layout
[01:20] <cc11rocks> TJ- But that WOULD be how I update the grub & fstab, correct?
[01:20] <jagosix> om_rahul - i use Nero Linux . I laso use imgburn via Crossover linux.
[01:20] <TJ-> cc11rocks: Yes
[01:20] <cc11rocks> TJ- GRUB just autofinds everything? Recursive search on everything?
[01:21] <cc11rocks> When running grub-update*
[01:21] <TJ-> cc11rocks: It ought to, yes
[01:21] <cc11rocks> TJ- well, thank you again for your patience and help :D
[01:22] <om_rahul> jagosix, thanks
[01:22] <jagosix> k3b  is ok at times.
[01:24] <jagosix> can anyone help me with my problem?
[01:25] <jagosix> my linux ubuntu problem
[01:27] <Jagst3r15> in gedit can you view ftp in the left column then push changes via it?
[01:27] <Jagst3r15> or is that not possible
[01:28] <Allan_> guys. i seem to not be getting any sound with nvidia hdmi audio
[01:28] <Allan_> been trying for hours
[01:28] <Allan_> pulling what little hair out i left'
[01:29] <Allan_> anyone ran into these issuesim using the gt210, themodule is hda-snd-intel
[01:29] <jagosix> Allan - I feel your pain
[01:29] <Allan_> jagosix, you used hdmi audio before?
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[01:30] <jagosix> tried to , but i hope  you get better help here than i did.
[01:31] <nwilson5> ERROR:  data type text[] has no default operator class for access method "gist"
[01:31] <nwilson5> oops wrong chan
[01:33] <jagosix> I need help with  Respondus LockDown Browser Installation in ubuntu linux.
[01:34] <somsip> jagosix: that's not a commonly used app looking at it. Maybe you should be askingo f their tech support team
[01:34] <TJ-> jagosix: You should ask their Support team
[01:34] <TaJMoX> Help please: When trying to re-size a window, there is only like a 1 pixel threshold, so it's hard for me to grab the side of the window to re-size it. Any way to change this to like 4 pixels?
[01:35] <TJ-> TaJMoX: what version of Ubuntu? I used to have that problem but it seems to have got better (or I've got more accurate) in 12.04
[01:35] <TaJMoX> TJ 12.04
[01:35] <TaJMoX> The window borders are like 1 pixel wide ><
[01:35] <TJ-> TaJMoX: hmmm... not sure if its possible to widen the frame/grab wdith
[01:35] <jagosix> Sytem settings mouse and touchpad TJ
[01:35] <TaJMoX> I used to use XFCE and didn't have that problem
[01:36] <TJ-> TaJMoX: I believe it's a "Unity thing"
[01:36] <TaJMoX> TJ I'm pretty sure it's a GNOME window manager thing
[01:36] <TJ-> TaJMoX: though I have no idea how you'd grab the borders if using a touch screen!
[01:37] <TaJMoX> TJ I'm using a regular mouse. I find it's easier to grab from the lower right corner, there seems to be like a 10 pixel area there.
[01:37] <TaJMoX> But if I want to grab by the left or top side, it's tough. TJ
[01:38] <TaJMoX> With Compiz installed, it's easy to ALT+MOUSE3 to resize... but compiz doesn't work well on this computer
[01:38] <Jagst3r15> I just regenerated the thumbnails and it's still screwed up...odd
[01:38] <Jagst3r15> wrong chat..
[01:38] <TJ-> TaJMoX: I see that as an alternative, Alt+middle mouse-drag will work
[01:39] <benjo> TJ, also have that problem using xfce 4.10, but the top corners have a larger threshold
[01:39] <con-man> hey so I'
[01:39] <TaJMoX> TJ oh it seems to work without compiz ... haha I thought it was just...nvm
[01:39] <TaJMoX> Wow.
[01:40] <con-man> hey so I've decided to run with unity, but I don't like the sidebar on both monitors, any way to have it on just the one?
[01:40] <TaJMoX> benjo in xfce I seem to remember it being easy to make the window borders larger
[01:41] <TJ-> con-man: There's a PPA I used to use, that contains a patched unity that only uses one screen. But not sure if it is still current
[01:41] <histo> TaJMoX: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-2d/+bug/878198
[01:41] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 878198 in metacity (Ubuntu Precise) "Difficult to grab window borders in unity-2d" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[01:41] <histo> TaJMoX: there are fixes posted there
[01:41] <con-man> TJ-, reluctant to use a hack, can it be done in the settings somehow?
[01:42] <TaJMoX> Thanks histo
[01:42] <TaJMoX> con-man I've seen it somewhere in some setting ... I recently installed 12.04
[01:42] <histo> con-man: all settings > displays you can choose to have the launcher on all displays
[01:42] <TaJMoX> There ya go =)
[01:42] <con-man> histo, you'll be glad to hear I've ditched the cube
[01:43] <TaJMoX> HELP: In Mouse Settings, acceleration and sensitivity are set to 0, and changing it does nothing to change my mouse cursor speed
[01:43] <TaJMoX> By "set to 0" I mean the slider is all the way at low
[01:45] <Montanhax2> just discovered i have the same problem...
[01:45] <TJ-> con-man: not that I know of, and I looked hard
[01:46] <Montanhax2> hey Taj
[01:46] <Montanhax2> slide the "sensivity" up
[01:46] <jpkx> [hi]..
[01:47] <jpkx> i thinked be the alone awake
[01:47] <TaJMoX> Montanhax2 It does nothing to affect my mouse cursor's speed
[01:47] <TaJMoX> Nor touchpad.
[01:48] <Erin> I rebooted after installing some updates and now I have no X windows. My xorg.conf has not changed and restarting lightdm does not help, do I need to re-install ?
[01:48] <TaJMoX> Thankfully, my mouse and touchpad speeds are OK, but I'd like to fine-tune them.
[01:48] <TJ-> Erin: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:49] <TaJMoX> =( xorg is broken.... has been for a while (in terms of stability/graphics compatibility)
[01:49] <Erin> TJ-, im not an expert in log files here is mine. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1151808
[01:50] <TaJMoX> If installing updates kills your GUI, the OS you have chosen has major issues.
[01:50] <TaJMoX> The pros out weigh the cons however =)
[01:50] <TaJMoX> Operating systems are in their infancy still. But ... hate to say it, other OS'es don't do that.
[01:51] <zykotick9> Erin: FYI you usinally want to check for an EE (error) in xorg.X.log - you don't have any :|
[01:51] <zykotick9> s/usinally/usually/
[01:51] <Erin> I really need my GUI back any ideas? all I did was update
[01:51] <Erin> can I completely reinstall Xorg somehow ?
[01:51] <TaJMoX> Erin: Easier to re-install Ubuntu
[01:52] <Erin> TaJMoX, not really...
[01:52] <TaJMoX> Than re-install xorg? Yes..
[01:52] <TaJMoX> If it was a fresh install anyways, why not?
[01:52] <Erin> it was not. I had everything just the way I like it. and If I do a fresh install and update again who is to say the issue wont come back
[01:52] <TaJMoX> Ohhh I thought you said it was fresh install
[01:53] <_DanN_> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[01:53] <TaJMoX> _DanN_ the man
[01:53] <Erin> yea that did not help ;-(
[01:53] <_DanN_> I might be wrong with package though
[01:53] <zykotick9> Erin: these sort of issues (breaking from updates) is not uncommon with ubuntu.  with other distros it's unheard of...
[01:53] <TaJMoX> I've been away from Linux for 6 years, I feel so nooby.
[01:54] <_DanN_> do you have access to this xorg*log file ?
[01:54] <_DanN_> .. sorry I wasn't following discussion ..
[01:54] <TJ-> Erin: From that log it isn't clear why it is closing. Something is causing the X server to close cleanly as soon as it starts
[01:54] <Erin> _DanN_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1151808
[01:55] <TaJMoX> startx
[01:55] <Erin> I don't even know why I updated when everything was working good.
[01:55] <TaJMoX> error?
[01:55] <kris_Rock> test..
[01:55] <TaJMoX> kris_Rock PASS!
[01:56] <Erin> startx says the user isnt authorized
[01:56] <Erin> if id o it with sudo it uses the wrong file....
[01:56] <cc11rocks> Erin - sudo startx
[01:56] <zykotick9> Erin: are you logged in as root, or using sudo?
[01:56] <_DanN_> omg ... sudo for startx ?
[01:56] <TJ-> Erin: show me "/var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log". you'll need to use "sudo" to get to it since it's root-only
[01:56] <Erin> i am logged in as a regular user,
[01:57] <shawny> Can someone give me a quick explanation why I can't 'put' to the tftp server on my ubuntu 12.04, but I can get fine?
[01:58] <Erin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1151818/
[01:58] <TJ-> shawny: permissions?
[01:58] <Erin> this is really frustrating..........
[01:58] <TJ-> Erin: [+0.75s] DEBUG: Failed to start greeter
[01:58] <shawny> drwxrwxrwx   2 nobody root   4096 Aug 16 21:23 tftpboot
[01:58] <Erin> TJ-, alright, whats that mean ?>
[01:58] <TJ-> Erin: show me /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log
[01:59] <shawny> is it the root group that is doing it?
[01:59] <_DanN_> ps -ef | grep X
[01:59] <zykotick9> TJ-: what is greeter?
[01:59] <TJ-> shawny: which package are you using to provide the tftpd ?
[01:59] <shawny> I installed xinetd
[01:59] <Erin> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1151821
[02:00] <TJ-> Erin: rror writing X authority: Error writing to file: No space left on device
[02:00] <shawny> with tftpd and tftp
[02:00] <TJ-> Erin: There's your problem. out of disk space
[02:00] <_DanN_> lol :-)
[02:00] <TaJMoX> Erin's problem is GDM
[02:00] <Erin> rofl!!
[02:00] <Erin> LMFAO.
[02:00] <TaJMoX> Ohhhhhh
[02:00] <TaJMoX> hahah
[02:00] <matts45acp> can someone tell me if 1 gb of ram is enough to run ubuntu 12.04
[02:00] <TaJMoX> There needs to be a service that always monitors disk space =\
[02:01] <TaJMoX> That's so annoying.,
[02:01] <_DanN_> matts45acp: it is
[02:01] <_DanN_> matts45acp: depends what are u expecting from the system
[02:01] <zykotick9> !requirements | matts45acp
[02:01] <ubottu> matts45acp: Hardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Ubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements - For a !flavor with lower requirements, see !Xubuntu or !Lubuntu
[02:01] <Erin> TJ-, ok so I deleted stuff, what do I do now?
[02:01] <TJ-> shawny: OK... let me check. I run a PXE boot server with tftp but I don't think I've ever needed to 'put'
[02:01] <_DanN_> Erin: service lightdm start
[02:01] <_DanN_> Erin: service lightdm restart
[02:02] <TJ-> Erin: check how much space you've got on each file-system using "df" ... you need at least 5% free on the / file-system to be OK
[02:02] <TaJMoX> Insufficient disk space is always a welcome cause to problems
[02:02] <cc11rocks> Erin : df -h
[02:02] <TJ-> Erin: that 5% is reserved for 'root' user processes
[02:02] <Erin> i got it down to 76%
[02:02] <shawny> I'm putting Cisco CME load files on my tftp server (no room on the router) and when I create cnf files it has to put them there too, otherwise I wouldn't need to put either. :(
[02:02] <TaJMoX> You should always have 25% free
[02:02] <Erin> it says lightdm is already running
[02:03] <TJ-> Erin: OK, you should be good to go with "sudo service lightdm start"
[02:03] <TaJMoX> TJ good catch
[02:03] <Erin> i feel so stupid. I ran a script earlier today to convert some music. it outputted to the wrong drive apparently
[02:03] <Erin> so when I rebooted it was full
[02:03] <Erin> I spent 3 hours trying to fix this ;-(
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[02:03] <TJ-> Erin: We all do it; least you didn't go reinstalling :D
[02:04] <TJ-> Erin: It's always the simple things - remember that!
[02:04] <Erin> whats funny is
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[02:04] <TaJMoX> On a related subject, can I show how much % free disk space on the Ubuntu 12.04 top panel?
[02:04] <Erin> i have fixed this exact problem for a friend before.
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[02:04] <Erin> but had no idea it was my problem now
[02:04] <TJ-> Erin: I often get bitten by assuming something complicated when its something simple, and wasting hours finding out
[02:05] <TJ-> Erin: But my advise is always.... read the logs!
[02:06] <jiltdil> how to use .net in ubuntu. please help
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> !mono
[02:06] <Erin> TJ-, thank you so much dude you have no idea.
[02:07] <TJ-> Erin: You're welcome :)
[02:07] <Erin> I just rebooted and my gui is back woo hoo
[02:08] <bharath> when I am trying to install software from software center but it gives the error "Failed to download package files" please check your internet connection
[02:08] <Erin> I need to take a snapshot of my ubuntu install (while everything is working lol)
[02:10] <_DanN_> Erin: it will work later as well ;) unless you have very old HW
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[02:13] <_DanN_> bharath: r u from india ?
[02:13] <bharath> _DanN_: yeah
[02:14] <_DanN_> bharath: I thought so ... how about checking DNS settings ? how about checking the stuff it's telling you to ?
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> Erin, a clone? I use clonezilla
[02:15] <_DanN_> bharath: ping would be my first step
[02:15] <Erin> yea i use clone zilla
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> saves sloe loads fast
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> slow*
[02:15] <jiltdil> Dr_willis i have mono already installed now how to use it to compile .net program
[02:15] <Erin> TJ-, I spoke too soon though, my X server is back but on the greeter window when I type my PW it  goes black and then comes back to the login screen? I can login with SSH same credentials
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[02:16] <TJ-> Erin: hmmm... log files!
[02:16] <johnjacobjingerh> i avoid problems with the x server simply by not using a GUI
[02:16] <Erin> TJ-, lol ok hold on
[02:16] <TJ-> johnjacobjingerh: I avoid white lines in the middle of the road by not jay-walking... doesn't get me very far though!
[02:17] <_DanN_> Erin: there must be something in your ~/ .. something like .X...
[02:17] <_DanN_> look into these files
[02:17] <TJ-> Probably a file got corrupted due to lack of space
[02:17] <Erin> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1151832
[02:17] <namoamitabuddha> _DanN_: .Xauthority?
[02:18] <Erin> I removed X authority let me try to log in now
[02:18] <Erin> problem is i gotta run up and down the stairs
[02:18] <Erin> like 300 times tonight i am getting my excercise
[02:18] <_DanN_> Erin: if I was in your shoes I'd check df -h first ;-)
[02:18] <namoamitabuddha> Erin: removed?
[02:19] <namoamitabuddha> Erin: Did you back it up?
[02:19] <Erin> haha nope probably should have
[02:19] <Erin> yea my disk use is down to 57%
[02:20] <namoamitabuddha> Erin: Maybe that's a wrong choice. I'm afraid you cannot start X programs any longer.
[02:20] <multipass|2> how do i show a little bit of ifconfig at a time? i cant see all the output
[02:20] <TJ-> Erin: no clues in that log. How about /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log  ?
[02:20] <Erin> multipass|2, ifconfig | less maybe?
[02:20] <_DanN_> ~/.Xauthority is created automatically everytime you start X server
[02:21] <histo> multipass|2: ifconfig | more   or ifconfig | less
[02:21] <namoamitabuddha> Sorry!
[02:21] <coldpizza72i> Im on the third step and Im getting this "mount: special device /home/users does not exist"
[02:21] <namoamitabuddha> http://askubuntu.com/questions/21923/how-do-i-create-the-xauthority-file
[02:21] <multipass|2> ahh ty ty, less was what i was looking for
[02:21] <coldpizza72i> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[02:21] <namoamitabuddha> It seems that in new Ubuntu, there's no Xauthority
[02:21] <Erin> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1151836
[02:23] <_DanN_> coldpizza72i: I think syntax you're using is wrong
[02:23] <Erin> TJ-, cant open x programs over SSH right now again either. this is weird.
[02:23] <_DanN_> coldpizza72i: paste the command you're typing in terminal to mount remote resource ...
[02:24] <_DanN_> Erin: ssh -X user@box
[02:24] <histo> Erin: are you using ssh -X
[02:24] <Erin> yea I have been the whole time it worked after he had me fix my free space issue
[02:24] <Erin> rebooted and now it doesnt work again
[02:24] <TJ-> Erin: [+338.72s] DEBUG: Failed to load session file /usr/share/xsessions/xubuntu.desktop: No such file or directory
[02:24] <_DanN_> hehe
[02:25] <_DanN_> change the window manager
[02:25] <Erin> but i like xubuntu!
[02:25] <TJ-> Erin: Are you using xubuntu!?!
[02:25] <Erin> can I download a new file and copy it ?
[02:26] <_DanN_> aptitude install gnome-session Erin
[02:26] <Erin> yea i am xubuntu 12.04 64bit
[02:26] <Erin> i alrdy have gnome-session installed it says
[02:26] <multipass|2> can anyone help me ssh into my ubuntu virtual box, it has a host only adapter setup at 192.168.56.101.. but im unable to contact it
[02:27] <TJ-> Erin: OK ... that explains why it'd expect that file, but not why it's not there or whether it ought to be!
[02:27] <Erin> TJ-, i did not delete that file manually.
[02:27] <Erin> so idk where it went.
[02:27] <TJ-> Erin: I didn't think you did :p
[02:27] <_DanN_> multipass|2: do you have default route set up ?
[02:27] <Erin> haha just stating my innocence
[02:27] <histo> multipass|2: did you setup a bridge in virtualbox?
[02:27] <MonkeyDust> ifconfig|grep Bcast
[02:27] <MonkeyDust> sorry
[02:28] <coldpizza72i> _DanN_: http://pastebin.com/iCUFFtXq
[02:28] <Erin> so what do I do geniouses :-)
[02:28] <TJ-> Erin: that file can't be important. It's in a package that is in the Universe archive
[02:29] <jackdeth> Hello! I'm new around here. Need help.
[02:30] <bharath> _DanN_: I don't have any problem with internet connection
[02:30] <_DanN_> coldpizza72i: mount -t nfs remotenode:/export/users/ /home/users/
[02:30] <trism> TJ-: most of xubuntu is in universe
[02:30] <Erin> TJ-, i fixed it! logged in to unity / gnome-session or whatever
[02:30] <_DanN_> coldpizza72i: this is my guess ...
[02:30] <Erin> and then logged in to xfce
[02:30] <histo> !ask > jackdeth
[02:30] <ubottu> jackdeth, please see my private message
[02:30] <TJ-> trism: Is it?!
[02:31] <_DanN_> bharath: how about DNS ?
[02:31] <multipass|2> histo: well i have it setup in vmware... and im able to get my samba shares from the vbox, so i know somethings working
[02:31] <Erin> I will be right back gonna log in from my linux machine
[02:31] <histo> multipass|2: is ssh listening on 22 ?
[02:31] <TJ-> Erin: if that missing file is important lets check if its package is installed: "dpkg -l xubuntu-default-settings"
[02:31] <bharath> _DanN_: by running sudo apt-get update solved my problem
[02:32] <diverdude> Was the program rclient removed from the repo?
[02:32] <_DanN_> bharath: cheers ! ;)
[02:32] <jackdeth> I have Ubuntu 12.04 machine. Started with one user account. Added a second user account. First account has full admin privileges. I want the second to have admin rights to install, etc. but don't want that account to be able to modify or delete other accounts. How do I do this?
[02:32] <histo> multipass|2: also make sure you didn't install a firewall that is blocking port 22
[02:32] <multipass|2> histo: well im not even able to ping 192.168.56.101 -- so something is wrong
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> jackdeth, you can do it in users in 12.04
[02:33] <histo> multipass|2: then how is samba working?
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> user accounts that is
[02:33] <multipass|2> histo: well i just mapped "\\multipass\sites-available" and it works fine
[02:34] <histo> jackdeth: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64889/give-permission-to-user-only-to-install-applications
[02:34] <TJ-> jackdeth: You'd create a rule in /etc/sudoers for that user that prevents them using the user{add,mod,del} {add,mod,del}user programs and you'd prevent them accessing /etc/passwd /etc/group and /etc/shadow
[02:35] <histo> multipass|2: did you install a firewall?
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> no password is a bad idea
[02:36] <diverdude> Was the program rclient removed from the repo?
[02:36] <conley> What custom settings does Ubuntu use for GRUB? I switched to Arch's version of grub, because Ubuntu's was having trouble, but now when I boot ubuntu instead of showing the loading graphic it just sits at a blank screen until it's booted
[02:36] <TJ-> diverdude: I can't find "rclient" listed in apt-file search
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> conley, what problems were you having to do this?
[02:37] <TJ-> conley: probably the "nomodeset" kernel command line paramater
[02:37] <kenchowcn> 大家好
[02:37] <namoamitabuddha> !zh | kenchowcn
[02:37] <ubottu> kenchowcn: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw
[02:37] <conley> wilee-nilee: Ubuntu wouldn't recognize Arch unless Arch's partition was mounted during the last run. No big deal though
[02:37] <conley> TJ: Oh, because it
[02:37] <multipass|2> histo: no firewall.. ok this is annoying -- i was able to ssh into the vbox with the hostname "multipass" -- but id really like to know the ip lol
[02:37] <conley> TJ-: it's trying to run at default resolution? Would that do it?
[02:38] <histo> multipass|2: once you're in type in ifconfig
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> conley, so when you say you are using arch's grub you nean you gave arch grub control?
[02:38] <histo> multipass|2: the ip must have changed on you
[02:38] <kenchowcn> hi,all
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> mean*
[02:38] <TJ-> conley: Could be. You can change grub to use text-mode
[02:38] <conley> wilee-nilee: yes, it does a better job with autodetect; there might be a bug in Ubuntu's current version
[02:39] <multipass|2> histo: for the host only its -- :192.168.56.101
[02:39] <TJ-> easiest way to get the IP is to use "ping -n hostname"
[02:39] <conley> TJ-: well grub works fine, it's just once I'm out of grub and into ubuntu
[02:39] <histo> multipass|2: once you are ssh'd into multipass type ifconfig in there
[02:39] <conley> Anyway TJ- it looks like you hit the nail on the head, thanks :)
[02:39] <Erin> back!
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> conley, Do you have arch in a regular partition a ext and not encrypted?
[02:39] <jackdeth> TJ - could you tell me exactly how I would word that? Would this go under the "user alias specification" section?
[02:40] <TJ-> conley: Yes... if GRUB sets up in GFX mode it can cause plymouth the graphical splash controller problems.
[02:40] <conley> wilee-nilee: Yep, plain ext4 partitions, one for /home and one for root
[02:41] <multipass|2> histo: ok so somehow the eth0 and eth1 are.. messed up or something. Im able to ssh to the NAT, and not into the host only
[02:41] <multipass|2> histo: and the NAT is 192.168.147.128
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> conley, strange I have run into a few distros that grub need a custom file to boot I'm surprised with arch.
[02:41] <Erin> TJ-: whats funny is after all that, the network card i wanted to install today just works. Haha.
[02:41] <TJ-> jackdeth: If you mean my sudoers suggestion, it's a very advanced way to do it. I was answering your precise question, but I suspect what you actual want is something different that "they can do everying except change users/groups" ... think more about what you want them to be *allowed* to do and create a rule for that only... its easier to do that than create exclusions
[02:42] <TJ-> Erin: Are you sorted out?
[02:42] <TJ-> Erin: if that missing file is important lets check if its package is installed: "dpkg -l xubuntu-default-settings"
[02:42] <conley> wilee-nilee: Well, it was working previously; like I said, I'm pretty sure it's a bug, and a reported one, what's more
[02:43] <diverdude> TJ-: there used to be one for remote desktop
[02:43] <jackdeth> TJ, actually that's EXACTLY what I'm talking about. I'm making this computer for a member of the family. I want her to have full reign of her computer. However, I want to maintain admin rights. I don't want her to be able to create, change, or delete user accounts or change user privileges on her own.
[02:43] <Erin> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/Zv78gsPM
[02:43] <TJ-> diverdude: I think the RDP client has changed recently because the previous one wasn't being actively maintained by devs
[02:44] <TJ-> jackdeth: Ouch! It'd take me a while to figure it out for me... its an advanced task
[02:45] <TJ-> Erin: ok that leading "rc" means removed but config files remain
[02:45] <datruth_> how can I get hdmi audio threw my browser?
[02:45] <TJ-> Erin: which implies it was installed at some time and has been removed... have you been playing with "apt-get remove" ?
[02:45] <diverdude> TJ-: for some reason the original solution for connecting to a VPN network using vpnc and rclient is now completely out of order :(
[02:46] <TJ-> diverdude: what kind of VPN? IPSec, openvpn, PPTP ?
[02:46] <datastorageunit> maybe try:   sudo chmod 777 /dir/for/tftp/files
[02:46] <diverdude> TJ-: Cisco
[02:46] <Erin> TJ-: nope
[02:46] <datastorageunit> sorry...that was late.
[02:46] <Erin> TJ-: so reinstall it?
[02:46] <datastorageunit> ignore me
[02:46] <shawny> alright, I just read that in order to 'put' to the xinetd tftp server you have to already have a file with the same name in there?  so what if you are doing something that generate a bunch of different files?!?
[02:47] <TJ-> diverdude: cisco is IPSec isn't it?
[02:47] <diverdude> TJ-: yeah i think so
[02:47] <TJ-> Erin: It's worth a shot yes
[02:48] <Erin> TJ-: ahh yes, it was not installed and it installed some greeter stuff
[02:48] <diverdude> TJ-: i can install vpnc and replace the vpnc script file in /etc/vpnc fine, but the --dpd-idle 0 switch no longer works so connection is being dropped, and i cannot connect with vinagre and rclient dont exist anymore :(
[02:49] <TJ-> diverdude: From what I can figure, openswan has become the preferred for IPSec/L2TP ... can't explain why though
[02:49] <TJ-> diverdude: let me look at the source of vpnc
[02:51] <diverdude> TJ-: any info there?
[02:52] <datruth_> is there away to change the audio output in google chrome?
[02:53] <Erin> TJ-: thanks so much. gonna reboot to make sure everything is cool.
[02:53] <TJ-> diverdude: give me chance!
[02:54] <iharp> Can someone point me in the direction of a good guide to installing (K,L,X)ubuntu from a network..?
[02:55] <diverdude> TJ-: oh sry :)
[02:55] <TJ-> diverdude: The option is still in there: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1151882/
[02:56] <TJ-> diverdude: You can put "DPD idle timeout (our side) " in the config file too
[02:56] <bazhang> !install | iharp have a read
[02:56] <ubottu> iharp have a read: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[02:58] <Giddeon> Hi, I'm using 12.04 desktop.  I'm trying to copy some files into /opt from the desktop and I'm getting a permission denied message.  I'm the only user on the system, why can't I move files into that directory?
[02:58] <diverdude> TJ-: i managed to connect also with vpnc-connect, i dont know if i will get dropped at some point though...But for some reason vinagre will not connect. I can ping the server just fine
[02:58] <TJ-> diverdude: the default is "300" (seconds I'm guessing) ... 0 means turn it off
[02:58] <diverdude> TJ-: what remote control desktop do you usually use for windows?
[02:58] <diverdude> TJ-: i will try the dpd-idle again if i get dropped
[02:59] <TJ-> diverdude: I don't
[02:59] <diverdude> TJ-: ok
[03:01] <bazhang> Giddeon, what do you need to use /opt for
[03:02] <diverdude> TJ-: i got dropped...yeah you are right...its not complaining about the dpd-idle flag
[03:02] <diverdude> im trying that now
[03:02] <shammancer> Could some one help me with this error. No apport report written because MaxReports is reached. I am currently updating to Pangolin and this message showed up while downloading dropbox
[03:03] <TJ-> diverdude: good luck... bed-time here!
[03:03] <diverdude> TJ-:  but when i try to connect with vinagre it says connection is closed
[03:03] <diverdude> TJ-: even though i can ping
[03:05] <diverdude> I am trying to connect to a windows desktop via vinagre, but when i press connect i get "connection is closed". I can ping the server just fine. I know remote desktop is working on the server, (i can do it from a windows client). What is going wrong?
[03:06] <datruth_> Is there away to easly switch back from audio devices
[03:07] <TJ-> diverdude: from what I read the RDP issue is caused by the Windows client not supporting the protocol version that the Ubuntu client is using, so the connection authentication fails.
[03:07] <diverdude> TJ-: hmmm it just used to work from my ubuntu machine :(
[03:08] <TJ-> diverdude: see this as a possible solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11985157&postcount=13
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[03:12] <|johnny|> Is there a Unity handbook that can help you get used to it? I'm having a hard time figuring it out.
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[03:13] <|johnny|> For example, I don't know how to add and remove applets from the desktop sidebar
[03:13] <ParkerR> |johnny|, Drag them onto it
[03:14] <|johnny|> ooh I'll try that thanks ParkerR. And also whoever suggested it, thanks for the tip about control, alt and T
[03:15] <|johnny|> I wanted the terminal on the sidebar and they suggested I use control, alt, T instead.
[03:15] <RJ_F1> Hey I'm looking to enable javascript on the Wine Internet Explorer installed with winetricks, how can I go about doing this, as it does not seem to have traditional IE settings menu ( the winehq channel is cold, no responses)
[03:15] <datruth_> 2
[03:16] <datruth_> nvm got it
[03:16] <aqqin> so I'm trying to get an ISO copied onto a USB
[03:17] <aqqin> how do I do this
[03:17] <RJ_F1> aqqin: unetbootin?
[03:17] <bazhang> !unetbootin | aqqin
[03:17] <ubottu> aqqin: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[03:17] <aqqin> someone told me to just straiight-up copy it
[03:17] <bazhang> aqqin, thats wrong
[03:17] <RJ_F1> depends if you want it as a .iso file or if you want to "burn" the iso like you would a cd/dvd
[03:17] <aqqin> copy the contents on the USB
[03:17] <aqqin> unetbootin doesn't work
[03:18] <diverdude> was tsclient also removed from the repos?
[03:18] <bazhang> aqqin, did you mean dd or cp
[03:18] <aqqin> bazhang, I meant cp. Someone in a different channel said dd isn't suitable
[03:18] <bazhang> aqqin, what distro
[03:19] <aqqin> it's not a distribution-specific issue
[03:19] <bazhang> aqqin, sure it is
[03:19] <Roasted> Anybody know offhand if there's a way to reboot my 12.04 box but run a command so the next time it boots up it does a disk check? Sort of like chkdsk /f in Windows where when it comes back up it finishes it before the system presents the user with the desktop.
[03:19] <aqqin> I'm using openSUSE
[03:19] <bazhang> aqqin, whats the iso of
[03:20] <aqqin> Windows 7, bazhang.
[03:20]  * RJ_F1 facepalms
[03:20] <bazhang> aqqin, whats the connection to Ubuntu here
[03:20] <RJ_F1> maybe he's drinking ubuntu cola?
[03:20] <Roasted> or wine.
[03:20] <Roasted> (lololol)
[03:20] <RJ_F1> ayye
[03:21] <aqqin>  Well, #SUSE won't help, #windows won't help ( but they said YOU GUYS would be more helpful)
[03:21] <bazhang> Roasted, force a file system check you mean?
[03:21] <Roasted> aqqin, what exactly are you trying to do?
[03:21] <cfhowlett> aqqin: see the SUSE forums.
[03:21] <Roasted> bazhang, yes, I'm trying to find a way to do it (hopefully) without a live cd. I got to thinking maybe I could run a command to trigger the system to do a fsck when it comes back online
[03:21] <Roasted> bazhang, online as in, booting.
[03:22] <aqqin> Roasted, I'm trying to install windows via USB
[03:22] <Roasted> aqqin, Okay, so you have a Windows 7 ISO on a USB flash drive. Right?
[03:22] <aqqin> Roasted: I have the ISO, but it's not on a flash drive
[03:22] <RJ_F1> it looks like hes trying to "burn" the iso onto the USB drive
[03:22] <Roasted> aqqin, okay, so you want to get the ISO onto the flash drive?
[03:22] <aqqin> Yes
[03:22] <aqqin> YEs
[03:23] <cfhowlett> windows installation is off-topic.
[03:23] <Akiva1> Hey I need to create an instruction manual for installing some shower doors, and I am looking for a very basic 3d drawing program where I can draw the parts and illustrate them into steps
[03:23] <Roasted> Which brings me to a question that already came up - What is it about your scenario that ties into Ubuntu?
[03:23] <Akiva1> suggestions?
[03:23] <RJ_F1> Akiva1: there is google sketchup
[03:23] <cfhowlett> Akiva1: google sketch
[03:23] <aqqin> Roasted, Because I'm using a Linux distro to copy the ISO
[03:23] <Akiva1> http://www.ristopakarinen.com/home/media/1/ikea.gif looks something like this
[03:23] <aqqin> Sorry, GNU/Linux*...
[03:24] <Akiva1> RJ_F1: cfhowlett: needs to run on linux. Sketchup is sketchy
[03:24] <bazhang> aqqin, ##linux
[03:24] <Roasted> aqqin, Well unfortunately the #windows guys were incorrect. This issue isn't Ubuntu specific... which is what this chat is for.
[03:24] <Roasted> aqqin, that being said, I often get help in the off topic chat (ubuntu-offtopic) with semi related Linux bits like this.
[03:24] <aqqin> :/
[03:24] <Roasted> aqqin, however, between you and me, if unetbootin can't do the job, I have no idea what will.
[03:26] <microm> please show your working ~/.vnc/xstartup file for gnome
[03:26] <RJ_F1>  Hey I'm looking to enable javascript on the Wine Internet Explorer installed with winetricks, how can I go about doing this, as it does not seem to have traditional IE settings menu (#winehq is silent) [running ubuntu 12.04]
[03:27] <microm> I already tried gnome-session, gdb, x-window-manager, x-session-manager none of them launches gnome in the vncserver
[03:27] <jackdeth> aqqin - look at your private chat
[03:27] <lrusak> so my find command isn't working
[03:27] <lrusak> lukas@lukas-linux:~/Documents$ find . -name *.avi
[03:28] <lrusak> and it just hangs
[03:28] <lrusak> I don't know what to do
[03:28] <B0g4r7> I wish I could get Precise to boot on this A1286 MBP.
[03:29] <B0g4r7> I downloaded the +mac iso, and it starts to boot, but eventually hangs at a black screen.
[03:29] <lrusak> Anyone know what I can do?
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[03:30] <Guest70179> Hi, anybody can give me the name of a channel of Ubuntu in spanish lg?
[03:30] <cfhowlett> !ubunt-spanish|Guest70179:
[03:30] <bazhang> Guest70179, #ubuntu-es
[03:30] <B0g4r7> I am able to change the bootloader options.  Any clue what may help?
[03:30] <Guest70179> Thanks
[03:31] <Gateway> whats the difference between ubuntu and debian
[03:31] <Gateway> ?
[03:31] <lrusak> lots
[03:31] <Gateway> is one better?
[03:31] <bazhang> Gateway, a good topic for #ubuntu-discuss
[03:32] <Gateway> k
[03:32] <Giddeon> Hi, I'm using 12.04 desktop and I'm the only user.  I'm trying to install an application and I thought I'd put it in /opt.  For some reason I don't have permission to copy files into /opt.  How can I get around this?
[03:32] <cfhowlett> Giddeon: sudo?
[03:32] <W4sp> lrusak: If it doesnt' work try 'find . | grep .avi'
[03:33] <Giddeon> cfhowlett: I'm trying to copy using the desktop, not the command line
[03:33] <lrusak> thanks
[03:33] <bazhang> Giddeon, copying what to /opt
[03:33] <lrusak> don't know why the . doesn't seem to be working, figured it would search the current directory
[03:33] <lrusak> I swear it worked before
[03:33] <Giddeon> bazhang: copying the Rubymine application files.  I wanted to install it there
[03:34] <Brokencomputer> Can someone help me? I'm trying to install Ubuntu onto this brand new laptop, but it is staunchly refusing to let me boot it from the USB.
[03:34] <diverdude> arrrrrrrrg if something works then why fix it....i hate when people fixes things that work to make it unwork
[03:35] <cfhowlett> Brokencomputer: first thing; did you md5sum check your iso?
[03:35] <W4sp> lrusak: The '.' is correct, you are in Documents as demonstrated. It's your '*' that goofs up.
[03:35] <lrusak> ok, hmm
[03:35] <Brokencomputer> md5sum?
[03:36] <B0g4r7> shasum to be proper.
[03:36] <cfhowlett> !checksum|Brokencomputer
[03:36] <ubottu> Brokencomputer: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[03:36] <cfhowlett> B0g4r7: thanks
[03:36] <Brokencomputer> Thank you, sir. I'll... check back once I've done that.
[03:36] <cfhowlett> Brokencomputer: i'll be here for awhile
[03:37] <jackdeth> Just to keep it on topic, to create a bootable Windows USB drive from within Ubuntu try this.   http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[03:37] <jackdeth> This was for aqqin.
[03:39] <W4sp> lrusak: I see what you mean. You can use your command if you put '*.avi' in quotes. That'll do for you I suppose.
[03:39] <lrusak> thanks w4sp
[03:40] <fiziklgrfiti> hi, if anyone is available I'd like to know a bit about getting a VPS to run linux server; more so are there any preferred providers?
[03:40] <lrusak> I got it sorted now
[03:40] <Verminator> can anyone assist in getting firewire working?
[03:40] <Brokencomputer> Cfhowlett: It said the check sums are equal.
[03:41] <cfhowlett> Brokencomputer: moving on then...what method did you use to create the startup usb?
[03:42] <Brokencomputer> The... universal USB installer, I believe it was. The one it tells you to get on the "create bootable USB stick on Windows" page.
[03:43] <cfhowlett> Brokencomputer: OK, then you source media is probably good.  next up is boot options ...
[03:43] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|Brokencomputer
[03:43] <ubottu> Brokencomputer: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter
[03:43] <drag0nz> heya guys, anyone know _libtcl_ is part of which package?
[03:45] <Giddeon> why can't I create a new folder inside my Home directory through the GUI in 12.04?
[03:45] <aqqin> I'll try that, jackdeth
[03:45] <microm> why is vncserver saying "Unknown option: -geometry"?
[03:45] <Giddeon> scratch that, apparently the menu works even though it's grayed out
[03:45] <RJ_F1> have you messed with thee permissions?
[03:45] <InferiorHumanOrg> Can someone help me get my network adapters to play nice? I have eth0 wired ethernet and wlan0 wifi N and if I enable one, the other gets disabled. I am using WICD. I want to run them both at the same time.
[03:45] <RJ_F1> *the
[03:46] <Brokencomputer> Well... see... that requires I can get the USB to boot at all.
[03:46] <microm> argh... vncserver is a perl script...
[03:47] <cfhowlett> Brokencomputer: wait you get NO action on booting the USB?
[03:47] <Brokencomputer> I'm getting absolutely nothing. It bypasses the USB entirely and runs Windows.
[03:47] <Gateway> yeah i have some computers thaqt wont boot from working USB images
[03:47] <Gateway> same
[03:48] <cfhowlett> Brokencomputer: verify the USB by booting it in a differnt computer.  if it works, it ain't the USB ...
[03:48] <Gateway> and 1 laptop that wont boot from a perfectly good DVD drive
[03:48] <Brokencomputer> Right.
[03:51] <cfhowlett> Brokencomputer: if the USB confirms as working, then it's gotta be your bios.  I'd say temporarily disable booting the hdd and leave USB boot as the ONLY option.
[03:52] <Gateway> when i try that i get a no boot device error
[03:53] <cfhowlett> !who
[03:53] <ubottu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[03:54] <grendal> dudes...unity is a mess
[03:55] <grendal> sorry...chicks to...i guess People...unity is a mess
[03:55] <RJ_F1> apt-get remove unity ; apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[03:55] <RJ_F1> cheers
[03:55] <grendal> ya..
[03:56] <Brokencomputer> cfhowlett: Actually... it may just be the USB being difficult... the computers are finding it VERY hard to recognize it.
[03:56] <grendal> well im auto removing it..im stripping it out
[03:56] <cfhowlett> Brokencomputer: usb's are cheap ...
[03:56] <grendal> gonna use xfc4
[03:56] <Brokencomputer> That they are. And I have a spare.
[03:56] <RJ_F1> grenda1: fair enough
[03:57] <grendal> i like gnome..but i like gnome2  i just finally got comfortable with it..now..the whole damn world is on this  "one crappy interface for everything" kick
[03:58] <grendal> brb i want to make sure gdm is working...
[03:58] <grendal> family machine
[03:58] <RJ_F1> gnome-session-fallback is "essentially" gnome2
[03:58] <fiziklgrfiti> unity is nice when you get used to it. it was a shock for me as well; but you get used to it :)
[03:58] <Gateway> its the invasion of touch technology and the kinect
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[03:59] <grendal> ya but RJ_F1how long will it be supported
[03:59] <RJ_F1> true story
[04:00] <xgt001> well only thing thats bad in unity is browsing apps
[04:00] <Gateway> onlything bad in unity is unity
[04:00] <RJ_F1> any wine experts on yet that know how I can enable javascript on wine's ie8 ?
[04:01] <RJ_F1> google has proved unhelpful.
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> RJ_F1:maybe playonlinux can help?
[04:09] <grendal> ya and wow..things like...o i dont know the show desktop key combo ..actually works
[04:12] <grendal> what is the name of that stupid app that lets you just start typing the name of an app and it autocompltes it
[04:12] <grendal> dash?
[04:13] <grendal> that was the only thing i unity that worth a crap
[04:15] <datruth_> how can Iget my volume buttoms to work with both sound cards
[04:16] <Gateway> i just saw an article on that today
[04:16] <Gateway> hold on
[04:16] <datruth_> okay
[04:16] <spectro> grendal it is synapse or gnome do
[04:16] <grendal> no..
[04:16] <grendal> i dont think so anyway
[04:17] <grendal> its like aples spotify..sort of deally bobber..
[04:17] <Gateway> lol im in windows n cant reboot to linux right now
[04:17] <RJ_F1> tab button scrolls through autocompletions anyway doesnt it? or is that terminal only?
[04:17] <grendal> you know on gnome3 its right at the top of the applications thang..
[04:17] <grendal> there is a type for search
[04:17] <Nezi> hello all
[04:17] <Nezi> i love you all
[04:17] <Nezi> :D
[04:17] <Gateway> oh nevermind. the article im refurring to was hardware specific to IBM n Lenovo
[04:18] <grendal> nezi...ok but my wife will only let you stay if you do the windows
[04:18] <datruth_> ;/
[04:18] <d2_> anyone here ever configured a squid3 proxy server ?
[04:18] <Nezi> ;D
[04:18] <grendal> and Nezi you have to get in line behind Mila kumis
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> !proxy
[04:18] <ubottu> Several Ubuntu channels prohibit access from open proxies and other anonymous connections due to a high level of abuse. The supported ways to hide your IP address on freenode are to use !Tor or get a !cloak
[04:19] <d2_> wtf?
[04:19] <grendal> are you asking what wtf means?
[04:19] <d2_> why would you show me !proxy
[04:19] <d2_> ?
[04:19] <Nezi> thanks you grendal
[04:19] <d2_> im configuring one, not asking for proxies
[04:20] <grendal> np...the cottage is empty and we are not allowing any more hawains in it.  The partys were just to much.
[04:20] <Nezi> anyway can i use chrome+ in ubuntu?
[04:20] <grendal> so after we replace the furniture...ill let you know...do you have a french maid outfit..and if not whats your size?
[04:21] <grendal> chrom in ubuntu yes...+ i have no idea what that is
[04:21] <Nezi> ok i understand thx
[04:21] <Nautilus> I was here yesterday asking about upgrading php 5.3.2 to 5.3.3 on 10.04LTS. It sounded like that isn't straightforward.  I gathered that I could go through a 3rd party repo to do it but it didn't sound pretty. I'm fairly noob for ubuntu / repo's, so I wonder what the real issue is.  Does this mean there's no official php past 5.3.2 for 10.04LTS?
[04:22] <grendal> ?  thats a lot of questions
[04:22] <Nautilus> fair answer :)
[04:22] <grendal> i dev on alot of php...there is no problem upgrading to 1204 and php...not that i have experienced
[04:22] <Nautilus> no, 10.04
[04:22] <Giddeon> what directory should I install an application that I'm installing manually?
[04:22] <grendal> on a server? why?
[04:22] <Nautilus> ok, the question...
[04:23] <grendal> giddeon /opt
[04:23] <grendal> Giddeon, i think
[04:23] <grendal> what is the spotify type app for ubuntu..grrrr
[04:23] <grendal> you people are going to make me use ubuntu again!!
[04:24] <galacticboy> Hey friends, how can i fresh install linux without losing my installed applications?
[04:24] <Nautilus> on a server no, I'm talking my local 10.04 dev box.  And yea I'm gonna get a drive and start 12.04 new.  I'm just wondering why it's not easy getting my 5.3.2 to 5.3.3
[04:24] <grendal> i mean google that is
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[04:24] <Giddeon> grendal: Thanks.  I'm trying to do that, but I can't seem to copy/paste a file into that folder through the GUI.  Do you know how I can enable root access in the GUI?
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[04:24] <grendal> Giddeon
[04:24] <grendal> firs open terminal
[04:25] <grendal> sudo -s
[04:25] <grendal> type in your pass again ..then run nautilus
[04:25] <grendal> it will allow you to use the nautilus file manager as root then
[04:26] <grendal> or you could sudo to root and do it the old fashoned way.
[04:26] <brdxufan> who can use eagle
[04:26] <Giddeon> do I just type "run nautilus" in th terminal? I get an error that run isn't found
[04:26] <grendal> cp filenamestart filenameend
[04:26] <grendal> no
[04:26] <grendal> just nautilus
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[04:26] <bazhang> !gksudo | Giddeon grendal
[04:26] <ubottu> Giddeon grendal: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[04:26] <grendal> actually naut and then press tab.
[04:27] <datruth_> is there an app where I can get more sound settings?
[04:27] <grendal> ya bazhang i know i know...im just keeping things simple
[04:27] <bazhang> grendal, your advice is wrong
[04:27] <RJ_F1> apt-get install alsamixer?
[04:27] <grendal> alright alright.. bazhang then you should have
[04:28] <Giddeon> bazhang, ubottu, grendal: thanks for the advice, it's working
[04:28] <grendal> ..grrr sorry Giddeon  use gksudo nautilus
[04:28] <Giddeon> yep
[04:28] <grendal> there is a gnome plugin for doing that to..
[04:29] <grendal> so you an right click on the folder...open as admin type thing
[04:29] <grendal> (if you are from windows world you might want to install that)
[04:31] <Giddeon> grendal: thx, I'll check out
[04:32] <grendal> i want a huge monitor..
[04:32] <grendal> i love my nebook but i need an 8 foot screen for it
[04:32] <Gateway> actually starts making things harder once u get past a certain size
[04:33] <grendal> i think you are not understanding
[04:33] <grendal> tracker?
[04:33] <grendal> is that is?
[04:33] <Gateway> I got a 65" TV...... *sigh*
[04:33] <grendal> is that it i mean
[04:33] <grendal> Gateway, telivision is not a monitor its time spunge
[04:34] <Gateway> no its my monitor. should have returned it
[04:34] <Gateway> just too fucking big
[04:34] <grendal> well sort of i have a very large "tv" that is on the living room computer.
[04:34] <datruth_> is ther ea command line that can change the master channel?
[04:34] <cfhowlett> !language|Gateway:
[04:34] <ubottu> Gateway:: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[04:34] <grendal> YA
[04:35] <grendal> THAT WAY WE can figure out what that search app is called
[04:35] <grendal> grrrr
[04:35] <Gateway> no cussing on the internet? oh noes!
[04:35] <grendal> ya watch out.
[04:36] <bazhang> lets move on
[04:36] <grendal> ive been bouced many a times..
[04:36] <grendal> bazhang, good idea
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[04:36] <grendal> tracker?
[04:37] <grendal> by the way i am very much liking xfce4.. its been some time since i dinked with it..but it seems exactly the  way it was...before but well faster
[04:38] <grendal> simple to..no hide and go seek bar (unity mystery bar) thang
[04:38] <grendal> hey any dev guys in here that worked on that thing?
[04:38] <grendal> I would like to go on record now as saying i hate that desktop...is there a db you can add me to?
[04:39] <hanslanda> hello there! i have a problem..yesterday i made some updates and now my graphics card is not working (nvida geforce gt 430). Anyone can help me please??
[04:39] <bazhang> !brainstorm > grendal
[04:39] <ubottu> grendal, please see my private message
[04:40] <grendal> will do..You worked on it didnt you?
[04:40] <vadi2> I'm having very big issues with disk space. I've got ecrypfs setup, and running du on my home folder says that 42G is used. However, df says 88G is being used. Where is half of the space going? (and there's only about 8G used by /usr)
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> bazhang:got any idea why ie8 in wine would failed to launch start trek online with javascript error?
[04:40] <grendal> wow
[04:41] <grendal> you want the list?
[04:41] <hanslanda> hello there! i have a problem..yesterday i made some updates and now my graphics card is not being recognize (nvida geforce gt 430). Anyone can help me please??
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia | hanslanda
[04:41] <ubottu> hanslanda: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[04:41] <brdxufan> who can use eagle
[04:42] <hanslanda> !nvidia
[04:42] <ubottu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto
[04:42] <brdxufan> i want to change pcb
[04:43] <xenland> I updated my power management settings yet my screen still goes to black while im trying to watch hulu movies
[04:43] <vadi2> Isn't hulu flash-based?
[04:43] <xenland> yeah
[04:44] <vadi2> I don't think ubuntu can know flash is playing a movie
[04:44] <xenland> I agree
[04:44] <xenland> I would like to know how not to have my screen go black
[04:44] <RJ_F1> press CTRL every so often.
[04:44] <vadi2> Oh it's going black anyway even when you told it not to at all?
[04:44] <xenland> vadi2 exactly!
[04:44] <RJ_F1> it works for me when watching long youtube videos.
[04:45] <xenland> I use my computer while i lay in bed
[04:45] <codemaniac> j #freenode
[04:45] <xenland> Pressing ctrl isn't fun
[04:45] <AaronDCampbell> I'm trying to change my default browser to Chromium.  I go to System-Settings->Details->Default-Applications and change Web to Chromium.  However, it doesn't stay.  The next time I go in there it's back to Firefox (and there's no "save" button or anything)
[04:45] <vadi2> Look at Brightness and Lock settings.
[04:45] <vadi2> I think that is the option you are looking for.
[04:45] <xenland> cool i'll check those out vadi2
[04:46] <brdxufan> who can use eagle
[04:46] <brdxufan> who can use eagle?
[04:46] <RJ_F1> "brightness and lock ->  turn screen off when inactive for : never"
[04:46] <vadi2> I'm having very big issues with disk space. I've got ecrypfs setup, and running du on my home folder says that 42G is used. However, df says 88G is being used. Where is half of the space going? (and there's only about 8G used by /usr)
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[04:49] <datruth_> anyone ?
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[04:52] <Artemis3> vadi2, just in case check the size of ~/.xsession-errors
[04:52] <vadi2> Hm, it's 20mb
[04:53] <Artemis3> vadi2, thats not it then... try du -h --max-depth=1 in your home :)
[04:53] <vadi2> home is only 40gb, du says
[04:53] <Artemis3> and the folders? it should list them
[04:53] <vadi2> du reports: 89G used by /, 80G by /home, and 40gb by real home and 40gb by ecryptfs
[04:54] <Artemis3> ah
[04:54] <vadi2> running du inside my home says 40gb is being used, and that is right
[04:54] <Artemis3> nothing else in /home?
[04:55] <vadi2> yet outside of home, it says home is using 80gb. Where is the ghost space going... there my user account, another non-used user account and .ecryptfs in home
[04:55] <Cork> i did a dist-upgrade and not start-stop-daemon (from inside php-fcgi) fails silently even though it returns 0; is there a way to find why this happens?
[04:55] <Cork> (i'm on lucid)
[04:55] <xenland> hmm don't think its the locks they all seem to be disabled
[04:56] <hanslanda> can anyone help me? im very new to linux... You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[04:56] <vadi2> it's not the locks, it's the turn off screen option, xenland
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[04:56] <vadi2> hanslanda: do ctl+alt+t, and inside it, type sudo nvidia-config , press enter, give it your password and close the window
[04:57] <hanslanda> vadi2, already done
[04:57] <vadi2> ok, now log out and log back in
[04:58] <hanslanda> have to reboot or just relog?
[04:58] <vadi2> just relog
[05:00] <hanslanda> vadi2, and now?
[05:00] <vadi2> you're done
[05:01] <hanslanda> no...
[05:01] <Giddeon> i used sudo -s to become root in the terminal, how do i become a regular user?
[05:01] <hanslanda> same message You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[05:01] <LordRagnarock> Hello :D
[05:02] <Cork> Giddeon: sudo -s followed by su <user>
[05:02] <vadi2> hanslanda: well, then according to it you are not using the nvidia driver. Perhaps try uninstalling and reinstalling it using the hardware drivers utility?
[05:02] <Giddeon> Cork: thanks
[05:02] <somsip> hanslanda: have you just done a dist-upgrade that has installed a new kernel by any chance?
[05:02] <Cork> np
[05:03] <Wen> winrar unzips rar files in windows
[05:03] <LordRagnarock> I'm getting lost here. I downloaded the 12.04 LTS iso, burned it, tried to install, and it quit at the migration thing. Then I read something suggesting to download the 12.04.1 LTS, and I did that, but get error 5 "input/output." I've never had this much trouble installing Ubuntu before. Any help here? ._.
[05:03] <cfhowlett> LordRagnarock: try the alternate iso
[05:03] <hanslanda> i was away about 1 month, and yesterday i made the update
[05:04] <somsip> hanslanda: And it broke after that?
[05:04] <hanslanda> yes
[05:04] <LordRagnarock> I guess I could do that. I've gotten used to text installers, anyway XD
[05:04] <somsip> hanslanda: reinstall the nvidia driver and watch for errors when it is generating the modules for the installed kernels.
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[05:05] <hanslanda> somsip, im sorry, im new to linux, can u help me, how can i say, a little more heavily? (sorry about my bad english)
[05:06] <cfhowlett> hanslanda: what is you L1?  perhaps we can find a better channel for you?
[05:06] <somsip> hanslanda: I can talk you through a few things that fixed my problem when I had this, but I'm no expert. Do you have a terminal window open?
[05:06] <hanslanda> somsip, yes...
[05:06] <Mike9863> I'm currently ssh'd into my server. How do I download a directory from it onto my computer?
[05:06] <LordRagnarock> hanslanda: I have a ways to go, but I can try. What seems to be the problem? :D
[05:07] <somsip> hanslanda: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current and look for any errors when it's building modules. I'll try to find an example...
[05:07] <Cork> Mike9863: you need to use scp from your local machine, unless you have ssh access from the other machine to yours
[05:07] <Assid> heya
[05:07] <LordRagnarock> oh wait. I didn't read the context. Ignore me! .__.
[05:07] <Mike9863> Cork: Alright.
[05:07] <Assid> how do i reduce the number of connections apt-fast makes ?
[05:08] <OerHeks> Assid, same way Pici told you to inclease connections, i guess
[05:08] <hanslanda> somsip, i think it will works...its processing
[05:08] <OerHeks> c/increase
[05:09] <Assid> aah wait.. can dpkg-reconfigure it
[05:09] <Cork> i did a dist-upgrade and not start-stop-daemon (from inside php-fcgi) fails silently even though it returns 0; is there a way to find why this happens?
[05:09] <Cork> not==now
[05:09] <somsip> hanslanda: if all modules work ok, type 'uname -r' and make sure the output matches a module that has been built. Then try a reboot
[05:10] <cattune> nickserv identify ferteagie
[05:10] <hanslanda> somsip, http://pastebin.com/keMiRMX4
[05:10] <RJ_F1> cattune:oops
[05:11] <cattune> gotta learn to type without lookin at keys methinks..:D
[05:11] <somsip> hanslanda: looks like there was no module but there is now. Does uname -r show that you are running 3.2.0-29 kernel?
[05:11] <RJ_F1> its best to /nickserv identify while not on a channel
[05:11] <hanslanda> somsip, yesterday i made a change too...changed the language settings...it was in Portuguese, and i switched to English
[05:12] <somsip> hanslanda: not sure if that will affect anything. Can you reply to my last question?
[05:12] <hanslanda> somsip, 3.2.0-29-generic-pae
[05:13] <somsip> hanslanda: ok - now you can either 'sudo modprobe nvidia-current' and logout to restart X, or do a reboot. Not sure if the modprobe will work as I've never had to try it
[05:14] <hanslanda> ok..i will reboot the system...see u in a few minutes..ty
[05:14] <cattune> hmmm......looks like  ubuntu was an auto connection
[05:16] <vadi2> Artemis3: I found an interesting magic trick!
[05:16] <hanslanda> somsip, many thanks, now its working better than ever...thank u
[05:16] <somsip> hanslanda: damn fast reboot too :-) glad it worked!
[05:17] <xenland> I had to set my power settings to "Never turn off" I guess unchecking "dim screen after X minutes wasen't enough
[05:17] <xenland> thanks mates
[05:17] <hanslanda> somsip, your good days are gone, now ive put you in my friendlist :)
[05:18] <vadi2> :)
[05:18] <somsip> hanslanda: yr welcome
[05:19] <dsfsafds> hi
[05:22] <Assid> eer.. if you go from ubuntu-server and add the ubuntu-desktop package.. how big is it ?
[05:22] <vadi2> it'll tell you before it'll install, so try installing it
[05:23] <Assid> man package wise downloads are soo slow :/
[05:23] <vadi2> adjust the mirror you use. there are hundreds of ubuntu mirrors world-wide.
[05:23] <cattune> anyone know how the commands for reset password?
[05:23] <cfhowlett> !who
[05:23] <ubottu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[05:24] <codemaniac> cattune: passwd
[05:24] <codemaniac> it will help you change your current password
[05:24] <cattune> codemaniac, i looked at nickserv help,but it doesn't appear there
[05:25] <codemaniac> cattune: i thought you wanted to change you ubuntu system password .LOL
[05:25] <cattune> ok,i have managed to cock a few identify operations up.....running outta passwords!..:)
[05:25] <cattune> oh,sorry
[05:26] <codemaniac> cattune: /msg nickserv help set
[05:27] <cattune> ok,thank you
[05:28] <codemaniac> cattune: welcome :)
[05:28]  * Miao :-)
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[05:38] <anonymous_> hello, anyone familiar with dd-wrt?
[05:40] <bazhang> anonymous_, try ##dd-wrt
[05:41] <anonymous_> trying to set default gateway to 0, for client bridge
[05:43] <anonymous_> ...
[05:43] <luftikuss> My NAS server has produced a backup file having a filename extension ».rom«. My Ubuntu 12.04 Nautilus cannot recognize this file format. Gedit shows a rather chaotic content of it. What is the proper tool to view and analyze a .rom file?
[05:44] <Onixs> your nas server itself
[05:45] <namoamitabuddha> Is there any eye protection software or eye protection theme?
[05:45] <namoamitabuddha> in Ubuntu.
[05:45] <codemaniac> Onixs: [code]file filename[/code]
[05:46] <namoamitabuddha> I'm near sighted, therefore I want a theme which doesn't hurt eyes so much.
[05:46] <luftikuss> Onixs: I don't think that a NAS server is a file viewer. --  Can you elaborate your message, please.
[05:46] <codemaniac> namoamitabuddha: use your monitor poer settings
[05:46] <codemaniac> s/poer/power
[05:47] <namoamitabuddha> codemaniac: You meant brightness?
[05:47] <codemaniac> yes
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[05:48] <namoamitabuddha> It seems that the color of the default theme hurts eyes.
[05:48] <Guest83511> yes
[05:49] <codemaniac> my LG old crt monitor has all these "text/photo/movies/normal" modes
[05:49] <Onixs> luftikuss:  isnt it the rom refers to bios/firmware. what is the size of the rom file you were refering
[05:49] <Chamunks> is there a good bnc I can use with ubuntu that total noob friendly?
[05:50] <luftikuss> Onixs: 12.8 kB
[05:54] <dan64> I just logged into a machine that I have not been on for awhile. I had sudo access but I am not in /etc/sudoers, nor /etc/ldap/ldap.conf. The machine is running 12.04. How can I have sudo access from a non-root account without being in these files?
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[05:56] <anonymous_> Anyone know how to setup a network without  a default gateway for dd-wrt?
[05:57] <bazhang> anonymous_, ask in the dd-wrt channel
[05:57] <bazhang> anonymous_, ##dd-wrt as I told you before
[05:57] <anonymous_> there's no one in either channel...
[05:57] <Giddeon> is there a possiblity that my .bashrc will be modified when I upgrade linux?  If so, where should I define some aliases so they won't get wiped out?
[05:58] <bazhang> anonymous_, sure there is, try to join it
[05:58] <namoamitabuddha> Off-topic: Is there any ubuntu international channel other than #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic?
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[05:59] <bazhang> !loco | namoamitabuddha
[05:59] <ubottu> namoamitabuddha: Information on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at http://loco.ubuntu.com/
[05:59] <namoamitabuddha> bazhang: I meant *international* channels.
[05:59] <bazhang> namoamitabuddha, the various -offtopic channels for each flavor
[05:59] <dan64> Giddeon, I define some aliases in ~/.bash_aliases and don't recall an upgrade modifying the file
[06:00] <namoamitabuddha> bazhang: It seems that -offtopic is inactive.
[06:02] <Giddeon> dan64: is .bash_aliases automatically called when the shell starts?
[06:02] <dan64> Giddeon, it's sourced by .bashrc
[06:02] <Jupicoolbee> hello?
[06:03] <Jupicoolbee> anybody in here?
[06:03] <namoamitabuddha> Jupicoolbee: Any problems?
[06:03] <bazhang> Jupicoolbee, ubuntu support issue?
[06:03] <Giddeon> dan64: ah I see it now, thank you
[06:04] <Jupicoolbee> Yes. I would like to find a way to use Netflix through the Wine program
[06:04] <bazhang> Jupicoolbee, check the appdb and join #winehq
[06:05] <bazhang> !appdb | Jupicoolbee
[06:05] <ubottu> Jupicoolbee: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help
[06:07] <newbchessplayer> flash keeps starting to stutter randomly and nothing but a full reboot will fix it, any suggestions?
[06:09] <namoamitabuddha> newbchessplayer: stutter?
[06:10] <newbchessplayer> the sound keeps cutting out for a few split seconds
[06:10] <newbchessplayer> repetedly
[06:10] <newbchessplayer> repeatedly
[06:11] <newbchessplayer> and non-stop
[06:11] <newbchessplayer> cuts out for about 1/4 of a second, about once every second
[06:11] <siebrand> I'm having trouble with and update of udev (175-0ubuntu9.1). Is this the correct channel to ask for help on that?
[06:12] <namoamitabuddha> siebrand: How do you update that plugin?
[06:12] <siebrand> apt-get dist-upgrade hangs on it.
[06:13] <siebrand> I'm finding a lot of references to issues with this, but no real solutions. It appears to be blocking all other package updates.
[06:14] <siebrand> (as it's an incomplete package update now)
[06:14] <wilee-nilee> siebrand, do you have synaptic installed?
[06:14] <andrewh192> hey is there a channel for virtualbox
[06:14] <andrewh192> ?
[06:14] <namoamitabuddha> siebrand: interversion update?
[06:14] <siebrand> synaptic and interversion do not ring a bell.
[06:14] <luftikuss> My NAS server has produced a backup file having a filename extension ».rom«. My Ubuntu 12.04 Nautilus cannot recognize this file format. Gedit shows a rather chaotic content of it. What is the proper tool to view and analyze a .rom file?
[06:15] <wilee-nilee> andrewh192, #vbox
[06:15] <siebrand> It's a virtual machine at a provider i"m using to run a simple AMP stack on.
[06:15] <wilee-nilee> siebrand, synaptic is a package manager and has a broken package filter.
[06:16] <siebrand> wilee-nilee: I'm using apt.
[06:17] <andrewh192> cool, thanx wilee-nilee
[06:18] <namoamitabuddha> wilee-nilee: It seems that Ubuntu removed synaptic from auto-install softwares.
[06:18] <namoamitabuddha> wilee-nilee: I remember in Ubuntu Lucid, it's automatically installed.
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> namoamitabuddha, I know that.
[06:19] <codemaniac> i have a ubuntu server install and wanted to encrypt / partition
[06:19] <codemaniac> any good docs please ?
[06:19] <namoamitabuddha> wilee-nilee: aptitude is also removed. I don't know why Ubuntu did these.
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> namoamitabuddha, I kn ow that to. ;(
[06:20] <codemaniac> the server is running on a VM
[06:20] <wilee-nilee> they are both considered deprecated
[06:20] <hateball> namoamitabuddha: aptitude cant handle multi-arch packages for one
[06:21] <namoamitabuddha> hateball: It's a known bug, which I checked yesterday.
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[06:27] <luftikuss> '~/nas$ file NAS-SERVER_2012-08-17_0643.rom ; NAS-SERVER_2012-08-17_0643.rom: data'. Is »data« a MIME type?
[06:31] <altX> hello
[06:32] <imyoulanda> hello
[06:33] <gitesh> Hi. I am on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[06:34] <rangz> Hi I have a dell inspiron laptop
[06:34] <altX> i have dual boot ubuntu 10.04(upgrading right now to 11.04)and windows 8,and im hoping to get 12.04,now i know the upgrade seems to take long,skipping from all the versions,if i do a clean 12.04 install will it break my dual boot?
[06:34] <gitesh> How do I reconfigure Internet Setting ?\
[06:35] <rangz> i have a dell inspiron 5420 laptop. I installed 12.04 and the wireless is not working
[06:40] <wilee-nilee> rangz, Do you know the card?
[06:40] <Rohan> Question: I want to backup settings, installed softwares, updates (almost everything!). How I can do that?
[06:40] <rangz> its bcm4365
[06:41] <rangz> from broadcom
[06:41] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | rangz
[06:41] <ubottu> rangz: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[06:42] <wolfie_> yello buntu lovers
[06:42] <Rohan> <Rohan> Question: I want to backup settings, installed softwares, updates (almost everything!). How I can do that?
[06:42] <wolfie_> @rohan how so?
[06:42] <wilee-nilee> Rohan, clonezilla is a nice cloner
[06:43] <Rohan> wilee-nilee: i read that it does not work with 12.04
[06:43] <arunkumar413> hi, i'm extracted the .rar file but couldn't find anything inside
[06:44] <wilee-nilee> Rohan, right what bhave you been reading the bathroom walls.
[06:44] <wilee-nilee> have*
[06:45] <arunkumar413> hi, i've extracted a .rar file but couldn't find anything inside
[06:45] <wolfie_> rohan, you can rsync your personal shit, and dpkg --get-selections the software. look it up
[06:46] <wolfie_> forget the ghosting shit.
[06:46] <auronandace> !language | wolfie_
[06:46] <ubottu> wolfie_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[06:46] <wolfie_> sorry bout the language
[06:47] <timfrost> !patience | arunkumar413
[06:47] <ubottu> arunkumar413: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
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[06:48] <wolfie_> anyway, again, sorry about my course use of the "S" word". Though I've seen the clonezille issue with 12.04. ...
[06:48] <Rohan> wilee-nilee: also i have dual boot
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[06:48] <wolfie_> rsync -av /home/you [target]
[06:48] <wolfie_> then...
[06:49] <wolfie_> dpkg -get-selections
[06:49] <Rohan> wolfie: i'll try
[06:49] <wolfie_> dpkg --set-selections
[06:49] <wolfie_> and you're golden
[06:49] <wolfie_> for the programs, at least
[06:49] <wilee-nilee> wolfie_, I have cloned 12.04 many times with clonezilla never a problem.
[06:49] <wolfie_> im still on 11.04
[06:49] <Kristian40> CAN I KNOW INDONESIAN HERE?
[06:49] <wolfie_> well,, xfce
[06:50] <wilee-nilee> rsync is fine as well.
[06:50] <rangz> ubottu:that is not working. I am not able to see any drivers in my additional drivers
[06:50] <wolfie_> @wilee how's that anyway, for RAM and such. I've avoided the main distro. Do you like unity?
[06:50] <maicod> hi my question is more general linux but since its so silent in ##linux-help I hope someone can help me here. I setup my wlan succesfully in linux text mode by editing etc/network/interfaces and creating /etc/wpa.config and my wlan internet works but when I then load X it doesn't . is there some X config file I need to edit to make the wlan work under X too ?
[06:51] <timfrost> !indonesian |  Kristian40
[06:51] <ubottu> Kristian40: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[06:51] <wilee-nilee> Rohan, clonezilla can do single partitions or whole HD's.
[06:51] <wolfie_> @maicod x and wlan shouldnt conflict
[06:51] <wilee-nilee> there are other cloners as well.
[06:52] <wolfie_> macoid, what's your distro and machine
[06:52] <maicod> wolfie: raspberry pi with raspbian wheezy
[06:52] <wolfie_> sexy. nice choice.
[06:52] <maicod> :)
[06:52] <ferni> for the personal shit, i would suggest rdiff-backup, or the dejadup gui tool that comes installed with ubuntu. anyway, there are many tools that get the job done
[06:52] <wolfie_> ok. let's see...
[06:52] <Rohan> wilee-nilee: wolfie_: ok thnx guys
[06:52] <maicod> wolfieL cool
[06:53] <maicod> sorry typo
[06:53] <wolfie_> not that it matters, but what's the monitor?
[06:53] <wolfie_> Im wondering how it outputs
[06:53] <maicod> wolfie: hdmi on a HP x2301
[06:53] <wolfie_> yeah, but in inches screensize
[06:53] <maicod> 23 inch
[06:54] <wolfie_> cool
[06:54] <maicod> ;)
[06:54] <maicod> so I followed this guide and it works in text mode : http://www.raspberrypi-tutorials.co.uk/set-raspberry-pi-wireless-network/
[06:54] <wolfie_> you english speaking? It'll help for trouble shoot
[06:54] <maicod> but when I load X it doesnt
[06:54] <maicod> wolfie: I am dutch but speak english fine ;)
[06:55] <maicod> wolfie:I also checked /etc/resolv.conf and the output looks fine :)
[06:55] <wolfie_> cool cool. so this machine is wireless right? youve got a belkin or at least realtek in there?
[06:56] <maicod> wolfie: I'm using a powered HUB
[06:56] <maicod> yeah wireless at the moment :)
[06:57] <maicod> I use firmware-ralink for my dongle btw
[06:57] <wolfie_> hmmm. OK, hold on. I've  been on the 'nix for about 3 years now, so I've pretty much ran into everything. just trying to remember all my past problems with Wifi/screen/everything. ubuntu and all that has been so good lately it hasn't been an issue
[06:58] <maicod> yeah the Pi is back to school
[06:58] <maicod> LOL
[06:59] <wolfie_> the other problem is the new hardware
[07:00] <wolfie_> What's the PI run? ARM or so @ like 1.2? Maybe some onboard gfx?
[07:00] <maicod> wolfie: I tried a realtek based USB dongle and it has the same problem
[07:00] <maicod> ARM 6 with hardware floating point
[07:00] <maicod> its slow :)
[07:00] <maicod> but gfx are fast
[07:00] <maicod> it has a gpu for that
[07:01] <wolfie_> yeah, realtek's a real "pisser" (that's New England slang for a problem in america, or at least here in Vermont)
[07:01] <maicod> hehe so its like 3 am there ? :)
[07:01] <wolfie_> i've had it on every machine with these belkin usb donges
[07:01] <wolfie_> wow, that was bad. I meant "dongles"
[07:01] <keith_> where in VT
[07:01] <maicod> vermont is east coast right ?
[07:02] <wolfie_> yep. Yeah. I've been writing all night.
[07:02] <maicod> :)
[07:02] <wolfie_> Burlington, more or less. Either way, in the middle of nowhere
[07:02] <keith_> haha nice
[07:03] <maicod> I checked again and wlan works fine in console but after doing startx and opening a terminal emulator it refuses to ping IP's or DNS names :(
[07:03]  * maicod is in netherlands and its 9:05 here
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[07:04] <wolfie_> so anyway, the belkin shhh... (gotta watch our language) is tricky at best. My main machine took forever, and that's not the experimental Pi. What kernel is Pi on, cuz for like debian and whatnot this r8712u driver on ubuntu 11.10 is solid as sears
[07:05] <maicod> wolfie: ifconfig command freezes from inside a terminal under X
[07:05] <maicod> but I got no belkin ;)
[07:06] <wolfie_> sorry meant the chipset driver not the actual whatever brand.
[07:06] <maicod> oh maybe I need to remove eth0 from my etc/network/interfaces since I removed the utp cable it might be the culprit !
[07:06] <wolfie_> Is it humid over there in the netherlands
[07:06] <maicod> ok but I think I'm currently using the ralink firmware
[07:07] <maicod> right now it is ! its the middle of summer and like 30 celsius
[07:07] <maicod> thats extreme for dutch temp. normally is like 20-25 in summer
[07:07] <maicod> my hygrometer is in the red zone :(
[07:08] <wolfie_> ah, in Vermont it never gets above 80F, or like 26C. We're right next to Canada.
[07:08] <maicod> yeah I know its up 'north'
[07:08] <maicod> vermont has nice architecture I once saw in a movie
[07:08] <wolfie_> Well at least you have hot girls to go with the weather. Or so I hear.
[07:08] <maicod> hahaha
[07:08] <maicod> aren't vt girls any good then?
[07:09] <wolfie_> Ah yes. We have awesome barns.
[07:09] <wolfie_> Ughh. Not really.
[07:09] <maicod> oh too bad
[07:09] <ParkerR> So how is everyone?
[07:09] <atmancloud> Hello, ubuntullers
[07:09] <wolfie_> @maicod You re-boot that thing then?
[07:09] <maicod> I meant those like 100 year old mansions in streets with alot of trees
[07:09] <atmancloud> I have some issue's install drivers for my desktop. anyone care to help?
[07:09] <maicod> wolfie: in a sec yea
[07:10] <GNS3Talk> Guys, when I launch an application in root access mode, it stats with an old WindowsNT-like-skin. Could you please advice how I can change that? I'm using Ubunt 12.04.
[07:10] <wolfie_> oh yeah, in burlington. that's the town i'm from. yeah, there are these old, 100 year old mansions from back when burlington was sort of an inland seaport on the Hudson river. Yeah, that part is super-classy
[07:10] <maicod> indeed !
[07:11] <maicod> but expensive I bet
[07:11] <wolfie_> Eh, not really.
[07:11] <maicod> oh okay
[07:11] <maicod> it was in some romantic movie but I forgot the name of it
[07:11] <maicod> could well be burlington
[07:11] <wolfie_> Oh, the actually houses, yeah. Like a million or more. Renting in the area is cheap. UVM (University of Vermont) is right by, so it is cheap for students
[07:11] <maicod> is it the capital of the state ?
[07:12] <maicod> oh OK
[07:12] <wolfie_> no, Monpelier is the capital. It's the smallest capital in the USA. It's really lame
[07:12] <maicod> oh LOL
[07:12] <wolfie_> Like, 8000 residents
[07:12] <maicod> weird huh
[07:12] <maicod> :)
[07:12] <wolfie_> I'm not joking
[07:12] <maicod> I know
[07:12] <FloodBot1> maicod: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:12] <atmancloud> I have some issue's install drivers for my desktop. anyone care to help?
[07:13] <maicod> montpelier as the same city in france ?
[07:13] <wolfie_> old mill town on this river
[07:13] <wolfie_> yep
[07:13] <maicod> OK:)
[07:13] <wolfie_> Vermont used to be all French
[07:13] <Calthropstu> does anyone have experience with installing openam on ubuntu?
[07:14] <maicod> wolfie: when I removed my current wifi dongle and used another and rebooted, it used wlan1. where does it keep track of older (already removed) wifi dongles that keep making wlan0 look as 'in use' ?
[07:14] <maicod> it=linux
[07:14] <atmancloud> @calthropstu no i'm trying to get help too :(
[07:15] <maicod> wolfie: oh right ! (like regions of canada)
[07:15] <Calthropstu> I have 6 hours to get this done or it's gonna cost me a job
[07:15] <wolfie_> yep. Quebec is the biggest french-speaking area outside of canada. In school as a kid i had to learn french
[07:15] <maicod> wolfie: me too but I know only words
[07:16] <maicod> wolfie: netherlands is tiny so we learn our languages :)
[07:16] <wolfie_> wtf? (dutch know that right?) why the hell it now wlan1?
[07:16] <DJones> wolfie_: maicod I appreciate the channel is fairly quiet at the moment, but cn you move the non support part of the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic so that the channel can stick to support questions
[07:16] <timfrost> !info openam |  Calthropstu
[07:16] <ubottu> Calthropstu: openam (source: openam): H.323 answering machine. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-1build1 (precise), package size 172 kB, installed size 352 kB
[07:16] <maicod> wolfie: its probably stolen the wlan0 for the wifi stick that I removed
[07:17] <maicod> djones: yeah I already sensed that we talked too much other stuff
[07:17] <Calthropstu> ubottu: that doesnt seem like the same thing :|
[07:17] <ubottu> Calthropstu: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[07:17] <maicod> djones: thanks for warning us :)
[07:18] <wolfie_> yeah yeah, reset sorry restart networking
[07:18] <wolfie_> ok, enough bs, back to the problem
[07:18] <Calthropstu> I've gone to hundreds of different websites
[07:18] <timfrost>  Calthropstu: what is openam, if int isn't the package ubottu described?
[07:18] <Calthropstu> and this error keeps happening over and over
[07:19] <wolfie_> @Calth... what's the problem again? Amazon... openam ... details
[07:20] <Calthropstu> it's a web policy agent and tomcat addon that secures apache webserver and tomcat
[07:20] <atmancloud> @calthropstu   https://wikis.forgerock.org/confluence/display/openam/How+to+install+OpenAM+9.5.2+with+OpenDJ+2.4
[07:20] <maicod> wolfie: I edited out eth0 and halted it and will power cycle now
[07:20] <wolfie_> booyah
[07:20] <timfrost> Calthropstu: what error?  (pastebin it if it is more than 2 lines of output)
[07:20] <Calthropstu> atmancloud: Ive been there a dozen times
[07:20] <Calthropstu> it's not an actual error message
[07:20] <Calthropstu> I install it
[07:20] <Calthropstu> and everything works right
[07:21] <Calthropstu> then as soon as I reboot
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[07:21] <atmancloud> calthropstu: sorry to hear that. I haven't had a chance to install or run that program. What are you trying to do exactly"
[07:21] <Calthropstu> it goes back to the configuration screen instead of the login like it's supposed and wont let me do anything
[07:22] <maicod> how do I disable the eth0 device (without removing it from the system since its fixed it can't be removed :P) ?
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[07:23] <newbchessplayer> anyone know how to get flash working without all the pain-in-the-neck bugs?
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[07:23] <monkeylord> hi
[07:24] <luftikuss> '~/nas$ file NAS-SERVER_2012-08-17_0643.rom ; NAS-SERVER_2012-08-17_0643.rom: data'. Is »data« a MIME type?
[07:24] <wolfie_> sorry, macoid, back. dude, it's  --- sudo ifconfig eth0 down --
[07:24] <GNS3Talk> Guys, when I launch an application in root access mode, it stats with an old WindowsNT-like-skin. Could you please advice how I can change that? I'm using Ubunt 12.04.
[07:24] <wolfie_> this is day one stuff
[07:25] <nobrains> maicod- check this ifconfig eth0 yourip down
[07:25] <newbchessplayer> hello
[07:25] <wolfie_> newbchess --- what's the prob specifically
[07:25] <diverdude> I have 4 files i would like to merge into a single file by concatenating them, one after another. How can i do that in the terminal?
[07:25] <maicod> wolfie: OK didnt think of that :)
[07:25] <wolfie_> no prob
[07:26] <newbchessplayer> anyone know how to get flash working without all the pain-in-the-neck bugs?
[07:26] <wolfie_> newbchess: distro?
[07:26] <atmancloud> newbchessplaer:install chrome.
[07:26] <timfrost> diverdude: 'cat f1 f2 f3 f4 > concatenated'
[07:26] <newbchessplayer> i've noticed since i started using ubuntu to watch videos online, my blood pressure has risen remarkably high
[07:27] <diverdude> timfrost: thx
[07:27] <wolfie_> newbchess: normally, I'd say "You liar! Flash on linux works perfect!" Lately, ive been hitting some quirks
[07:28] <wolfie_> last week or so actually, not just on ubuntu
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[07:30] <wolfie_> maicod: status?
[07:31] <maicod> wolfie: no luck yet
[07:32] <maicod> trying a 3rd brand wifi dongle now
[07:33] <nobrains> maicod paste your error
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[07:34] <wolfie_> i'm fairly interested in getting to the bottom of "macicod"'s problem cuz i want to get a RasPi
[07:34] <wolfie_> woops, it's maicod
[07:35] <Calthropstu> :D
[07:36] <Calthropstu> I think I found the issue
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[07:36] <maicod> nobrains: its not an error I can paste. the problem is that while under text mode wlan internet works fine that when I load X I get no responses to ping commands for instance and when I type 'ifconfig' in a terminal under X it hangs for like 1 minute before displaying its contents
[07:37] <codemaniac> i am using a 12.04 server , how can i upgrade to a development release server?
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[07:38] <namoamitabuddha> Hi, everybody!
[07:38] <namoamitabuddha> Can I file a wishlist to Ubuntu bug?
[07:38] <DJones> codemaniac: I'd recommend asking in #ubuntu+1 for that and to check if there are any major bugs you'll find for your hardware before you try the upgrade
[07:39] <OerHeks> !brainstorm | namoamitabuddha
[07:39] <ubottu> namoamitabuddha: Post your ideas for Ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!
[07:40] <nobrains> maicod i might sound silly, have you tried restarting your machine
[07:40] <wolfie_> @maicod this is starting to irritate me. Can't find anything around, and can't figure why X and wlan would be affected
[07:40] <namoamitabuddha> OerHeks: Let me see
[07:40] <maicod> nobrains: heheh numerous times
[07:40] <codemaniac> tnaks DJones
[07:40] <wolfie_> or rather related
[07:40] <timfrost> codemaniac: try 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d' - the '-d' should enable upgrading to the development release.  Usual caveats plus DJones comments.  YMMV
[07:40] <maicod> wolfie: ok maybe other ppl who know then
[07:41] <Calthropstu> OpenAM uses a file in $HOME/.openssocfg/ to bootstrap and find its configuration. The file is named after the path to OpenAM and contains the path to the configuration. The following example shows what the file looks like for OpenAM deployed in Apache Tomcat under /path/to/tomcat/webapps/openam, and running as user amuser with $HOME /home/amuser.
[07:41] <Calthropstu> $ cat .openssocfg/AMConfig_path_to_tomcat_webapps_openam_
[07:41] <Calthropstu> If OpenAM cannot find its configuration, then it displays the configuration screen.
[07:41] <maicod> wolfie: thanks for thinking about my problem
[07:41] <codemaniac> timfrost: i am using ubuntu server 12.04
[07:41] <wolfie_> hold up, @maicod, WPA or WEP.
[07:41] <wolfie_> ?
[07:41] <maicod> WPA
[07:41] <Calthropstu> what does it mean "the file is named after the path to openam"?
[07:42] <maicod> after having used a certain usb wifi dongle and removing it and using a different wifi dongle it seems to have rememberred that wlan0 was used by the old dongle and refuses to use wlan0 but uses wlan1 instead. how can I make it use wlan0 ?
[07:42] <nico_> hi
[07:42] <wolfie_> @maicod, feel dumb for asking but... you see this page http://www.raspberrypi-tutorials.co.uk/set-raspberry-pi-wireless-network/
[07:42] <timfrost> codemaniac: understood.  The '-d' is expected to offer 12.10 (quantal developoment release)
[07:42] <OerHeks> maicod now you tell us a different issue, and wheezy is not supported here.
[07:43] <maicod> oerheks: the first time I put my question I excused for that matter but hoped someone could still help me
[07:43] <codemaniac> thanks timfrost
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[07:44] <Fleg_> Hi All! I have a problem with resolving domain names with a search path. From any console utility the resolution is made firstly over ipv6 (AAAA). Which gives a timeout. Telnet and netcat are the problem for example. I've disabled ipv6 in the sysctl.conf but the problem stil persists. Any sugestions  how to solve this?
[07:44] <maicod> wolfie: thats the guide I followed and it works under text mode but not under X
[07:44] <carnau> Hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu with no luck. USB method restarts randomly while installing, and the CD method returns me this: http://imgur.com/wLmdj ¿What can I do?
[07:44] <nobrains> maicod if you are using debian then try  apt-get update && upgrade   may be they've released a patch file for your x problem
[07:44] <maicod> OK will try that thanks
[07:45] <wolfie_> @maicod have to ask one more time, whats the realtek chipset?
[07:45] <wolfie_> it's like rtl... something
[07:46] <GNS3Talk> Guys, when I launch an application in root access mode, it stats with an old WindowsNT-like-skin. Could you please advice how I can change that? I'm using Ubunt 12.04.
[07:47] <maicod> wolfie: I used a usb dongle with ralink chipset first. I just installed firmware-ralink and that worked under text mode
[07:47] <keith_> are you using sudo, or gksudo
[07:47] <islandmonkey> GNS3Talk: Don't use sudo, use gksu or gksudo
[07:47] <wolfie_> ok right, which ralink though? lsusb
[07:48] <wolfie_> it makes a difference. SLight differences are the diffrence between 20GBps and nothing
[07:49] <maicod> wolfie: I will check in a couple of mins. currently using a 3rd brand wifi dongle for test
[07:49] <maicod> oh wait I can use my vmware ubuntu for that ;)
[07:50] <wolfie_> if other people have gotten it going, there must be something you're forgetting.
[07:51] <maicod> wolfie: maybe but it works under text mode. so what X does that breaks it I don't know :(
[07:51] <wolfie_> @macoid what brand of monitor?
[07:52] <maicod> wolfie: HP
[07:53] <maicod> model is x2301
[07:53] <wolfie_> oh right, you told me. I'm grasping at straws at this point.
[07:54] <keith_> does anyone know where to obtain IRC logs for channels
[07:54] <DJones> !logs | keith_
[07:54] <ubottu> keith_: Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[07:55] <keith_> thanks!
[07:55] <Calthropstu> ok, now I have a question you guys can answer. If a user installs something in ubuntu, it's configured as being in their home folder
[07:55] <Calthropstu> but if root does it
[07:55] <Calthropstu> where is roots home folder?
[07:56] <knyn_> Does anyone know why Xubuntu shuts down whenever I tell it to restart?
[07:56] <nobrains> "/root"
[07:58] <fidel> knyn_: how do you tell it to restart? using what cmd?
[08:01] <GNS3Talk> Guys, when I launch an application in root access mode, it stats with an old WindowsNT-like-skin. Could you please advice how I can change that? I'm using Ubunt 12.04.
[08:01] <keith_> GNS3Talk, you should use gksudo how are you launching the applications now?
[08:02] <GNS3Talk> keith_: I'm using gksudo
[08:03] <keith_>  GNS3Talk, so if you do: gksudo gedit
[08:03] <GNS3Talk> keith_: The application runs via python if this helps! I'm new to Linux by the way.
[08:03] <sabayonuser> heloo guys i was using ubuntu 12.04 after updated ubuntu my browsing is super slow but my download speed is fine was using adsl-pppoe connection
[08:03] <GNS3Talk> keith_: Let me try.
[08:04] <sabayonuser> if i boot live cd my browsing speed is normal any remedies for this problem
[08:04] <GNS3Talk> keith_: gksudo gedit works well! The tesxt editor launches in the same skin as user access mode.
[08:04] <keith_> GNS3Talk, so it must be app specific
[08:05] <sabayonuser> even if i log in guest session browsing is fine what is the problem update caused this
[08:05] <keith_> GNS3Talk,  I don't think I know how to fix it, but knowing that it is app specific is a start :)
[08:05] <GNS3Talk> keith_: Yeah as I said before, I launch it with the command gksudo phython "path"
[08:06] <keith_> GNS3Talk, gotcha, must be a python thing
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[08:07] <SwordFish> h3y all
[08:08] <wolfie_> oy oy SwordFish
[08:09] <kexwork> does anyone know how i can port these colours to gnome-terminal? (whilst preserving my current colorset if i need to revert) https://raw.github.com/nanotech/jellybeans.vim/master/ansi-term-colors.txt
[08:09] <lowstz> Hello, I have a problem, I install ubuntu 12.04 in a acer laptop with win7 and a PC with win7
[08:09] <lowstz> But when completed install ubuntu and reboot
[08:09] <extrasolar> yes
[08:09] <lowstz> The grub no show and direct into windows7
[08:09] <pourtech> how can I run the built-in games????
[08:09] <wolfie_> lowstz you need easy BCD
[08:10] <wolfie_> hold on, link coming
[08:10] <wolfie_> http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/05/17/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7/
[08:11] <wolfie_> you need to create an entry in the windows bootloader manager
[08:11] <wolfie_> you can do it the other way, with 'nix manaing boot.
[08:11] <wolfie_> but it's easier to have windows handle it. because when windows is updated, it'll overwrite the boot manager
[08:13] <GNS3Talk> keith_: thanks mate
[08:16] <JPeterson> can someone explain this apt-cache depends aptitude why disagreement http://pastebin.com/q5Kknt6p
[08:16] <pankaj_sharma> hello
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[08:17] <pankaj_sharma> hello people
[08:18] <OerHeks> !aptitude
[08:18] <ubottu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.
[08:20] <lowstz> Sorry, my network has just hung out :(
[08:21] <GNS3Talk> !python
[08:21] <ubottu> python is a popular Object Oriented scripting language included in Ubuntu. For more on Python please see http://www.python.org/ or #python
[08:21] <pourtech> how can I run the built-in games????
[08:21] <pourtech> ???
[08:21] <wolfie_> @lowstz so yea, just follow that link. for dual booting. Easy BCD. bing. bang. boom.
[08:22] <Rubatharisan> Hi, is it possible to install Ubuntu without that dock (Unity?)
[08:22] <pourtech> how can I play the game on ubuntu?
[08:22] <Rubatharisan> ?
[08:22] <lowstz> @wofie give me the link again, Thanks for your help
[08:23] <DJones> Rubatharisan: You can use a different desktop or use gnome classic as an option
[08:23] <Rubatharisan> DJones: Where do I get the option to use Gnome Classic?
[08:23] <OerHeks> !nounity | Rubatharisan
[08:23] <ubottu> Rubatharisan: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic
[08:23] <DJones> Rubatharisan: See above
[08:24] <Rubatharisan> DJones, OerHeks - Thanks! :)
[08:24] <wolfie_> http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/05/17/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7/
[08:25] <wolfie_> oh, that last link was for lowstz
[08:25] <DJones> Rubatharisan: You can also install XFCE, LXDE or KDE as different desktops instead of Unity/Gnome
[08:26] <wolfie_> linuxbsdos.com is a great resource for the whole dual-boot thing. Once you get used to it, it'll seem old hat but it's a good resource to start out.
[08:26] <lowstz> @wolfie_ Thanks :)
[08:26] <Rubatharisan> I think i will try KDE, is there a seperate download location for Ubuntu KDE?
[08:28] <Rubatharisan> DJones: I found the download location for Kubuntu, but now the question is - why does Ubuntu recommend using 32bit? I know my computer can use 64bit?
[08:28] <DJones> Rubatharisan: I think that just goes back a couple of versions, occasionally there can be issues, but I've been using 64 bit without any problems
[08:28] <compdoc> Rubatharisan, use 64bit
[08:29] <cordoval> anyone can help me in a shell script/
[08:29] <cordoval> or which is the channel for shell scripts?
[08:29] <cordoval> I have if [ "$1" != "" ]; then     echo "a"   else    echo "b" fi
[08:29] <Rubatharisan> DJones, compdoc : Thanks, will get the 64bit one ;)
[08:29] <DJones> Rubatharisan: Do you already have Ubuntu installed? If so, you can just install the KDE desktop without doing a full install
[08:30] <cordoval> but this is inside a function on .bashrc  so i don't know how to detect if the prompt is empty from args and when enter has been hit without anything on the prompt
[08:30] <cordoval> can someone help me please?
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[08:33] <pocket_i> #lisp
[08:33] <cordoval> join #lisp
[08:34] <rexis> how do you make an user input return to the begining of a case statement
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[08:36] <cordoval> rexis: ?
[08:36] <cordoval> are you talking to me?
[08:36] <rexis> if you know yea
[08:37] <jahongir__> name Johacorg
[08:37] <pankaj_sharma> hi
[08:37] <jahongir__> hi
[08:37] <luftikuss> rexis: May be http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_07_03.html helps.
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[08:39] <rexis> luftikuss: ty
[08:39] <yuka> hi all
[08:39] <johacorg> hi yuka :)
[08:39] <yuka> is there a php script to view resources of ubuntu server
[08:39] <yuka> like monitor cpu usage \memory or so
[08:39] <dogsarentcrazy> hi
[08:40] <dogsarentcrazy> can you see my ip?
[08:40] <iceroot> yuka: mrtg is nice (not php)
[08:41] <yuka> i would like to monitor em trough web browser if possible
[08:41] <iceroot> yuka: possible with mrtg
[08:41] <yuka> okay gonna google it
[08:41] <luftikuss> dogsarentcrazy: (~dogsarent@46.181.226.42)
[08:41] <rexis> dogsarentcrazy: yes
[08:42] <yuka> iceroot i presume that mrtg is working with nginx and php5-fpm
[08:42] <yuka> i mean i am not using apache2
[08:42] <iceroot> yuka: working fine without apache
[08:44] <Kanecx> hi
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[08:53] <JPeterson> can i get the url to the dpka package "vlc-data (= 2.1.0~~git20120813+r1888-0~r82~precise1)" as in this case http://pastebin.com/WfC0HgTQ from the APT tools ? i.e. without manually locating the url (or automatically through an xpath script) from the ppa website.
[08:53] <JPeterson> i mean the ppa package
[08:54] <csaba_> hi i use lubuntu 12.04 when i plug in me headset only rieght speaker worksin the pulse audio controller says mono mode active.how can i change to stereo mode? i tried reinstall pluse audio  it was doesnt help(sorry for my english)
[08:55] <bharath> ubuntu 11.10 is always crashing , may I know the reason for this?
[08:56] <islandmonkey> bharath: Why can't you use 12.p
[08:56] <islandmonkey> 12.04
[08:58] <subdesign> any hint how to update to lessc 1.3?
[09:01] <compdoc> bharath, I have run every version of Ubuntu since 10.04, and none have crashed
[09:01] <cpc464> Ubuntu is a good OS
[09:03] <linus-torvalds> Can someone tell me how to install themes on GNOME?
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[09:04] <OerHeks> linus, easy way is using ubuntu-tweak or my choice, my-unity.
[09:06] <dramr> Ubuntu vs windows 8  will this be fair comparison
[09:06] <dramr> i have a problim regarding wireless connection always slow?
[09:07] <dramr> also mobile broadband could anyone help me?
[09:07] <dogsarentcrazy> linus, sudo apt-get install lxde-desktop
[09:07] <dogsarentcrazy> sudo apt-get purge gnome*
[09:07] <luftikuss> '~$ sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.178.33:/i-data/0faecd45/nfs/nas-nfs /media/nas; mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.178.33:/i-data/0faecd45/nfs/nas-nfs'. Who denies me access? Why? How to get rid of this access denial?
[09:08] <DJones> dogsarentcrazy: That doesn't help anybody install themes on Gnome
[09:08] <dramr> could somebody please help?
[09:08] <compdoc> dramr, windows is pretty great for its purpose. So is Ubuntu. Cant really compare them
[09:08] <dramr> wireless is very slow
[09:08] <cfhowlett> !patience|dramr:
[09:08] <ubottu> dramr:: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[09:09] <luftikuss> !wireless dramr
[09:10] <luftikuss> !wireless > dramr
[09:10] <ubottu> dramr, please see my private message
[09:11] <dramr> ! wireless
[09:11] <ubottu> Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:12] <joliolly> Hey Guys does anyone know how to change the default encoding of postgresql to UTF-8 on 11.04 ?
[09:12] <Rubatharisan> DJones: Sorry for writing in such delay, but no I do not have ubuntu installed atm. I'm going to install Kubuntu now.
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[09:12] <Calthropstu> argh
[09:12] <Calthropstu> Im gonna have to start from scratch
[09:14] <Calthropstu> so I now have 4 hours to reinstall the linux vm, install and configure tomcat, opendj, openam, apache webserver and perform linux updates
[09:14] <Calthropstu> I'm cutting it damn close :|
[09:15] <AnDieLeine> If your VM is as "fast" as the ones I have to work with right now: you're screwed
[09:15] <Rubatharisan> joliolly: you mean the databases to UTF8?
[09:15] <joliolly> yea
[09:15] <joliolly> but it needs to be the default encoding
[09:15] <joliolly> rubatharisan
[09:15] <Rubatharisan> So each time you make a DB it will be UTF8?
[09:16] <joliolly> because the airtime app is creating the databased
[09:16] <luftikuss> csaba_: May be alsamixer can help to analyze your problem.
[09:16] <joliolly> bases
[09:16] <joliolly> yeah that would be ideal
[09:16] <tsak_> hi! What room i should go if i want to know about excell? :)
[09:16] <joliolly> is it possible rubatharisan
[09:17] <Rubatharisan> I don't think it's possible without removing the datas from the already existing bases
[09:17] <luftikuss> tsak_: Try #windows
[09:17] <joliolly> oh ok
[09:17] <joliolly> so could you tell me how to do that haha
[09:17] <tsak_> actually i want to know concatenate() function. if its possible to connect many cells together like concatenate(A1:A100) <-- that doesn't work, but something close to that
[09:17] <tsak_> ok i try
[09:17] <tsak_> thank you
[09:18] <joliolly> rubatharisan this is the error * Unfortunately your postgresql database has not been created using a UTF-8 encoding.  * As of Airtime 2.1, installs will fail unless the encoding has been set to UTF-8. Please verify this is the case
[09:18] <dramr> how to switch the keyboard layout i mean what keyboard shortcut like Alt + Shift in windows ?
[09:19] <marco> file:///home/marco/Scrivania/buduscript/install.sh
[09:19] <marco> file:///home/marco/Scrivania/buduscript/install.sh
[09:19] <Rubatharisan> joliolly: try write sudo -u postgres psql -c "SHOW SERVER_ENCODING"
[09:19] <Rubatharisan> in terminal
[09:19] <Rubatharisan> Sorry joliolly, I have to go. I hope I will get back soon.
[09:20] <joliolly> getting this error ruba ould not change directory to "/root" psql: could not connect to server: No such file or directory 	Is the server running locally and accepting 	connections on Unix domain socket "/var/run/postgresql/.s.PGSQL.5432"?
[09:20] <luftikuss> dramr: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/keyboard-layouts.html
[09:20] <joliolly> oh thats ok
[09:20] <joliolly> see you later
[09:20] <marco> 1
[09:21] <luftikuss> '~$ sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.178.33:/i-data/0faecd45/nfs/nas-nfs /media/nas; mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 192.168.178.33:/i-data/0faecd45/nfs/nas-nfs'. Who denies me access? Why? How to get rid of this access denial?
[09:22] <Calthropstu> :| half an hour so far and ubuntu is still installing
[09:22] <extrasolar> uo
[09:22] <extrasolar> sup
[09:23] <marco> clear
[09:23] <marco> cancel
[09:23] <Calthropstu> kill
[09:24] <rootlinuxusr> xkill?
[09:24] <extrasolar> type sudo kill -u username
[09:24] <Calthropstu> die
[09:25] <Calthropstu> IT is such a violent profession...
[09:25] <extrasolar> lol
[09:30] <dorvan> hi to all, ciao a tutti
[09:31] <A_J> rofl
[09:31] <suriyadeepan> i can't get my hdmi output device listed on sound preferences??  i have connected my ubntu laptop to a lcd tv??
[09:34] <Calthropstu> Ive been getting some calls from recruiters for jobs...
[09:34] <joliolly> join #airtime
[09:34] <Calthropstu> about half of them are in places listed on the 100 most crime ridden cities in the US
[09:35] <petoo> hey
[09:35] <Calthropstu> I dont care how much you're offering, I'm not moving to Flint michigan
[09:35] <cfhowlett> petoo: greetings
[09:35] <Calthropstu> hi petoo
[09:36] <petoo> :)
[09:36] <suriyadeepan> i can't get my hdmi output device listed on sound preferences??  i have connected my ubntu laptop to a lcd tv??  i have installed alsa drivers(I hope so)?? anybody??
[09:36] <petoo> have you ever tried to mount a linux folder on windows machine?
[09:37] <Calthropstu> they're different filing systems petoo. They both read files differently.
[09:37] <Calthropstu> folders rather
[09:38] <petoo> see I have a folder with ext*fs , on which all other machines send their backups, this folder is mounted on all linux filesystems , except for the Windows machine
[09:38] <suriyadeepan> i can't get my hdmi output device listed on sound preferences??  i have connected my ubntu laptop to a lcd tv??  i have installed alsa drivers(I hope so)?? anybody??
[09:39] <petoo> any idea how she can send her back up on this folder?
[09:41] <DJones> petoo: This may help http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd/ I used it a few years ago with EXT2 formated drives and worked ok, but the last time I tried using it, it didn't work for me
[09:41] <DJones> petoo: Seems ok for ext2/ext3 but doesn't mention ext4
[09:42] <DJones> Sorry, yes it does
[09:42] <petoo> I'll check it out
[09:46] <goddard> does anyone else have a problem with KDE applications context menus not showing up after awhile of use?
[09:53] <tjadc> Hi
[09:53] <tjadc> I am trying the following  setfacl -d -m g::rwx /opt/flexifin/
[09:54] <VictorCL> hi , how can I improve the sound? the sound is really flat .. compared to my 20euro mp3 player , my desktop sounds like a AM radio , is there something I can do?
[09:54] <tjadc> I get the error: setfacl: /opt/flexifin/: Operation not supported
[09:54] <tjadc> I don't understand what the acl's problem is :?
[09:55] <cfhowlett> VictorCL: what audio player are you using?
[09:56] <petsounds> VictorCL: what do you mean by 'the sound is really flat' ?
[09:56] <VictorCL> doestn have any bass , is like a radio
[09:57] <VictorCL> compare to my win7 netbook, there is a huge sound difference
[09:57] <VictorCL> or my other desktop aswell
[09:57] <csaba_> luftikuss: it's looks like hardwere problem but i try to reinstall the system,thanks  for advice
[09:57] <VictorCL> must be a driver thing
[09:58] <frankz> hello
[09:58] <korst3n> Hey, is it possible to repartition a disk live in a way that an NTFS partition will mount as / ?
[09:58] <korst3n> apparently my primary partition is just 900MB and I have no space left in it, need to mount an NTFS partition for it
[09:59] <luftikuss> csaba_: Good luck!
[10:00] <chanyeol> hello
[10:01] <chanyeol> Regarding  partial module build, how could I do it..?
[10:02] <tjadc> Ok figured out my problem
[10:03] <tjadc> new question: If I have just `apt-get install acl`, the next time I restart my machine, will the drives be mounted with acl ? or do I have to edit fstab still ?
[10:04] <tjadc> I am using ubuntu 12.04
[10:06] <Calthropstu> down to 3 hours left and still updating ubuntu
[10:06] <Calthropstu> I am moving at the speed of vmware
[10:07] <CookieM_> how long haven't you updated the system Calthropstu?
[10:07] <Calthropstu> fresh vmware install
[10:08] <k1l_> Calthropstu: do you have a that slow internet connection or did yiu restrict the internet connection or the cpu power for the vm?
[10:09] <Calthropstu> it's downloading between 100K and 300K/s
[10:09] <rootlinuxusr> Any suggested apps to sync Google Music with?
[10:10] <opalepatrick> can I do a copy and skip paste if already exists with nautilus or thunar? want to copy a folder but it is saying not enough space - correct, if it duplicated the files that exist.
[10:11] <k1l_> rootlinuxusr: there is an official upload tool
[10:13] <rootlinuxusr> Correct, but I'm looking for something like Google Music Frame - http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/integrate-google-music-ubuntu-linux/ or, tying it into amarok or rhythmbox.
[10:13] <casualuser> greetings!
[10:13] <Calthropstu> salutations
[10:13] <cfhowlett> casualuser: greetings to you
[10:14] <casualuser> can someone suggest me if I can do smth with my x32 with pae kernel to force system see 4Gb
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> how moch is it seeing now?
[10:15] <opalepatrick> actually it would probably be much quicker to do a copy command via cl?
[10:15] <casualuser> at the time only 2.7 + shared video
[10:16] <Dr_Willis> how much video ram? how much total ram?
[10:17] <casualuser> total 2+2 Gb
[10:17] <casualuser> video share 256Mb
[10:17] <casualuser> in htop I can see 2.7G (3G - 256Mb shared video mem)
[10:18] <casualuser> 3.2.0-27-generic-pae
[10:18] <casualuser> using 3.2.0-29-generic-pae system halts on load
[10:19] <Calthropstu> whee Im clocking nonstop 90% ram usage
[10:19] <Calthropstu> this comp seriously needs a ram upgrade
[10:19] <rubatharisan> Hi, I have a problem, my problem is that some times my ubuntu pops up with a error message saying System Error - Report it
[10:19] <k1l_> rootlinuxusr: i used the nuvolaplayer but now i siwtched to a chromium app for the google-music
[10:20] <rubatharisan> But I can't see what system error it is, and when i press report it, it just asks for my password and afterwards just close down the alert
[10:20] <Calthropstu> lol
[10:20] <wavm> does ubuntu need antivirus?
[10:20] <rubatharisan> wavm: No
[10:20] <casualuser> I've just upgraded my q45 laptop from 1+1 to 2+2 G but it seems system just can't see full 4G amount of mem
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> wavm:  if you want to scan your wwindows files...
[10:21] <ScottHarrison> wavm, depends if you have Windows files and/or interact with Windows systems
[10:21] <casualuser> any suggestions except reinstall and switch to x64 ?
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> casualuser:  thats very possible it has some hardware limits
[10:21] <wavm> so windows virus can affect ubuntu?
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> wavm:  not really
[10:21] <Calthropstu> wavm: yes, just do a google search for "ubuntu antivirus" go to the 10th or 11th page and look for the most suspicious advertisement you can find and install it
[10:21] <cfhowlett> wavm: no
[10:21] <ScottHarrison> casualuser, 32 bit system? or 64? sorry if stupid question but better me ask now than find out later.
[10:22] <casualuser> x32 with pae
[10:22] <Calthropstu> it will prolly still do nothing
[10:22] <Calthropstu> but it will be amusing
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> wavm:  i use av on linux to scan WINDOWS machines and files on windows machines
[10:22] <soa2ii> Are there other places as apt.conf and apt.conf.d/* where apt is looking for proxy settings?
[10:22] <ScottHarrison> wavm, no but viruses can hide in windows files, which when you move them from your ubuntu machine to windows machine, can infect it
[10:22] <casualuser> and at the same time vista at the same laptop see 4G so it's not hw limits
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> thers no need for a pae kernel on a box with exactly 4gb i belive
[10:23] <fabio_uma> こんばんは
[10:23] <wavm> thnx for input
[10:23] <Calthropstu> yay updates are installed
[10:24] <k1l_> !jp | fabio_uma
[10:24] <ubottu> fabio_uma: 日本語の場合は /join #ubuntu-jp または /join #kubuntu-jp を入力して下さい。
[10:24] <ScottHarrison> casualuser, are you sure you installed 64bit ubuntu?
[10:25] <ScottHarrison> casualuser, it's been done before, even I've installed a 32bit OS on 64bit architecture
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> id check out a 64bit live cd and see how much ram it reports.
[10:25] <k1l_> casualuser: can you put the output of "free -m" in a pastebin?
[10:25] <casualuser> ScottHarrison, installed x32 version with pae kernel
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> could also be differances in how vista and linxu are reporting the ram.
[10:26] <Calthropstu> UPDATE COMPLETE :D
[10:26] <Calthropstu> 2.5 hours to install and configure everything
[10:26] <k1l_> Calthropstu: you cant compare a faulty vm with a real install
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> Calthropstu:  Hmm. normally takes me like 30 min. :)
[10:26] <rvgate> within the gnome-terminal, you can scroll up using shift+pageup, but how can i scroll up per line?
[10:27] <casualuser> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/HJkxwCfR
[10:27] <Calthropstu> no... I mean I have 2.5 hours left to install the programs I need to have for this interview
[10:27] <ScottHarrison> casualuser, sorry, don't know enough about the PAE kernel to help any further. thanks for introducing me to something new. good luck
[10:27] <Calthropstu> starting with java
[10:27] <hay> hi all.. I am looking for a bind (named) web administration tool that *works* on 12.04... I have tried openpanel but it seems it isn't officialy supported on 12.04... thx!
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> !ebox
[10:28] <ubottu> zentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04).
[10:28] <casualuser> ScottHarrison, here is info regard pae from ubuntu website - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> perhaps zentyal/ebox
[10:28] <Calthropstu> !opendj
[10:28] <k1l_> casualuser: so its 2,7gb. maybe the the video card takes smth off the ram
[10:28] <hay> Dr_Willis, thx
[10:28] <Calthropstu> ubottu doesnt know anything about the programs Im installing :(
[10:28] <ubottu> Calthropstu: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[10:29] <casualuser> k1l_, yeap, video share 256Mb but system do not see another one 1G
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> No OpenDJ in the repos...
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> It would be an odd video card that just used 256mb of ram. (or a very low end one)
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> casualuser:  i would test with a Non-Pae kernel, and with a 64bit live cd.  to see how much ram they report.
[10:30] <Calthropstu> I want to create the ultimate supercomputer... 1 terrahertz processing power, 20 TB ram, 500 TB storage space...
[10:30] <k1l_> casualuser: can you post  the line of "uname -a"?
[10:31] <ScottHarrison> anyone else like bacon and eggs? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGKTTvrdv60&feature=share
[10:31] <Calthropstu> and a nonreplaceable 8 bit graphics card
[10:31] <casualuser> Dr_Willis, testing with non-pae is an idea but vista at the same laptop see 4G
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> casualuser:  vista may be lieing.. or counting memory differntly then how linux does..
[10:31] <k1l_> !ot | ScottHarrison
[10:31] <ubottu> ScottHarrison: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[10:31] <casualuser> k1l_, Linux b0x 3.2.0-27-generic-pae #43-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 6 15:06:05 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> casualuser:  you just said the video is taking 256mb of ram.. so vista is definatly showing numbers of  whats installed..not whats 'useable'
[10:32] <casualuser> Dr_Willis, bios also reporting 4G
[10:32] <ScottHarrison> k1l_, lol sorry
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> while linux may be reporting what ram you actually have available for use.
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> which is my guess.
[10:33] <casualuser> Dr_Willis, actually I haven't check memory usage in vista to much but just have taken a quick look in system info as vista installed just for rare cases
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> amount of reported ram can just be 'weird' in many ways.. I have a 8gb box with a 2gb dedicated video card.. 64bit os.  free is reporting i have 7.8 gb total.
[10:34] <Calthropstu> troubleshooting vista is easy... *sledgehammer* and done...
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> every time ive seen someone come in here worried about ram not seen.. its been due to how linux reports the ram ussage. and not any 'real' problem.
[10:35] <casualuser> Calthropstu, vista is just nothing vs win3.11 for wg )
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> with exactly 4gb of ram. it seems to be more common complaint then from peole with more then 4gb.
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> If the machine can support 64bit ubuntu, then i would use 64bit. and notuse the pae kernel at all.
[10:36] <casualuser> hmm, it seems x64 live cd waiting for downloading for investigation
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[10:37] <casualuser> lshw reports Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  T2410  @ 2.00GHz
[10:37] <casualuser> with width: 64 bits
[10:37] <casualuser> but I haven't used x64 before
[10:37] <casualuser> so it seems it's time to try
[10:38] <k1l_> imho there is no reason to not use 64bit nowadays (besides the hardware not supporting it :) )
[10:38] <rubatharisan> Ubuntu was at a time so small, that you had to install all the applications.. Today it's so big, that you have to uninstall most of the unnecessary crap. I can't use my Alt + Tab now.. :p
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[10:39] <somsip> rubatharisan: start with a minimal/alternative install, then add the apps you want
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. still using a 700mb single iso/cd... so the size hasent changed much.
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> 12.10 is moveing past the cd sized limit however. but not to  much past it. ;)
[10:40] <casualuser> the main question - will I be smart enough to switch from x32 to x64 without reinstall ...
[10:40] <codemaniac> yes to bundle all the stuff in a cd is quite a achievement
[10:41] <k1l_> casualuser: no way
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> I think they should dump the Libreoffice. :) but thats because i never use it.. that is like almost 100+MB
[10:41] <codemaniac> ubuntu devs might get some enlightmnet from fedora peers
[10:41] <HaltingState> I just ran an update and no opengl programs work; i am getting error "X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)"
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> casualuser:  you dont upgrade 32 to 64bit.. you reinstall.
[10:41] <casualuser> k1l_, there is some howtos exists
[10:41] <ScottHarrison> Dr_Willis, first thing I removed on install
[10:42] <rubatharisan> So my problem is... I can't use Alt + Tab xD
[10:42] <k1l_> casualuser: that will end in a reinstall anyways. so just backup your stuff and do a reinstall. fastest way
[10:43] <k1l_> Rubatharisan: what means: i cant use alt +tab?
[10:43] <Mr_Macbuntu> hi.....   i've installed ubuntu lucid on a macbookpro 3.1  and the up and down keys don't work...   any ideas ?
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> sounds like you removed part of compiz, or other bits of the desktop.
[10:43] <Rubatharisan> k1l_: You know, I can switch applications with alt+tab - but it won't switch applications, no reactions of all. Dr_Willis: I have removed Compiz yes
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> Rubatharisan:  so what desktop are you using...
[10:44] <casualuser> ok, thx everybody for tips
[10:44] <casualuser> it seems I need to check everything and look for switch to x64
[10:45] <Rubatharisan> Gnome Classic
[10:45] <Rubatharisan> Dr_Willis: Gnome Classic*
[10:46] <k1l_> Rubatharisan: removing compiz is a bad idea when you want to use compiz :/
[10:46] <Calthropstu> cd / | rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty *
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> or it also removed part of gnome.. thus breaking other parts
[10:46] <Rubatharisan> I don't want to use compiz, it's heavyload
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> You dont USE it.. you just leave it installed so you dont break other things.
[10:46] <HaltingState> sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg
[10:47] <k1l_> Rubatharisan: and gnome-classic is a very cut-off desktop. its just a fallback thingy which is gonna be dropped anyways in next releases
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> still not clear on 'I can switch applications with alt+tab - but it won't switch applications' means...
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> I can state that I do not see 'gnome classic' in 12.10 here. ;)
[10:47] <Calthropstu> means he hits alt+tab
[10:47] <Calthropstu> the little screen pops up
[10:47] <Calthropstu> and cycles through applications
[10:47] <Calthropstu> and nothing happens
[10:47] <Rubatharisan> Yep, exactly Calthropstu
[10:48] <Calthropstu> that would annoy the living crap out of me
[10:51] <Calthropstu> how often do any of you use the software center?
[10:51] <HaltingState>  HELP.  I ran update and now i cannot run opengl programs; I just reset xorgs and same problem
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> Calthropstu:  rarely. ;) i know what apps i want.. and use apt-get
[10:52] <Rubatharisan> same here
[10:52] <Rubatharisan> buut :p a few times it goes wrong
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> Calthropstu  hardly ever, i use the terminal, apt-get
[10:52] <HaltingState> Rubatharisan, do you have the same problem as me?
[10:52] <JPeterson> who maintains the PPA system? this behavior is bug: _all packages will be published if one platform build succeeds, that breaks apt-get install for _platform that failed to build since the _all package will be too new for the latest _platform package avaliable.
[10:53] <Rubatharisan> HaltingState: Nope, sorry. Have you tried rebooting your system?
[10:53] <HaltingState> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[10:53] <HaltingState> i have rebooted six times
[10:53] <Calthropstu> so apt-get would be better than installing the openjdk listed in the software center?
[10:53] <HaltingState> reset X11 and deleted my xorg.conf file
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> JPeterson  PPAs are maintained by individuals
[10:53] <JPeterson> MonkeyDust: i mean who maintan the launchpad.net ppa hosting
[10:54] <Rubatharisan> HaltingState see this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/175744/x-error-of-failed-request-badrequest-invalid-request-code-or-no-such-operation
[10:54] <HaltingState> http://askubuntu.com/questions/81344/how-to-fix-error-with-ati-driver-error-of-failed-request
[10:55] <Calthropstu> Im getting a 1d107 error...
[10:55] <HaltingState> Rubatharisan, why is this happening to me now
[10:56] <Calthropstu> is sunjava superior to openjdk?
[10:57] <k1l_> Rubatharisan: im not sure if the alt+tab thing on gnome-classic uses compiz. since you deleted compiz that could be the issue
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> Calthropstu:  some apps requier the  Oracle Java...
[10:57] <treebuey> I use clamv to checkout windows parttions. usually on a usb adapter
[10:57] <tjadc> So my answer to wheter Ubuntu sets the acl option on your filesystem automatically is false
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> Calthropstu:  the software center uses the same packages as apt-get.
[10:58] <tjadc> You have to alter the fstab file
[10:59] <Calthropstu> I miss using redhat 6
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> Calthropstu:  so go back to it.. we dont mind.
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[10:59] <Calthropstu> it was so much fun wondering if something would work or not lol
[11:00] <MonkeyDust> Calthropstu  sound very windows to me ;)
[11:01] <Calthropstu> no, everything worked as it was told to... but you had to tell it how to do everything and messup once the whole thing blows
[11:02] <Calthropstu> manual configuration of ppp ftw
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> last i used ppp was like 13+ yrs ago...
[11:02] <Calthropstu> like I said
[11:02] <Calthropstu> redhat 6 :p
[11:02] <hay> another question... when I edit a guest in virsh with 'edit guestname' and save it (I get a message Domain name XML configuration edited.), when I reopen it, the changes seem to be ignored... what am I doing wrong? thx
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[11:02] <Dr_Willis> good old days of 'free' dialup if you ran their spammy banner bar advertisements.
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[11:04] <Calthropstu> netzero and juno
[11:04] <randy2009> Hi, i have a verry weird problem, if i connect with my putty on windows to a server, and do ls, it works, if i do top it works, if i connect to another ubuntu server and then ssh to servers in a network range, ls works, top crashes always.....
[11:04] <rexis> are threre irc chat servers of just like people chatting?
[11:04] <Calthropstu> rexis: many
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> rexis:  theres 1000's of irc networks and 100000s of irc channels
[11:05] <rexis> thanks
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> !alis
[11:05] <ubottu> alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*
[11:05] <rahul_> hii, In unbuntu can anyone know any software or script which download all the images from particular website ?
[11:05] <randy2009> what can be the problem?
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> rahul_:  httrack, wget, webhttrack, perhaps others...
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> rahul_:  then theres possibly differnt browser extensions
[11:06] <rahul_> Dr_Willis thanks.
[11:07] <zorgborg> hi all, just deleted my windows partitions with gparted,  just following community wiki on this + wondered does it matter if i expand my linux partitions while running gparted off the os + not a livecd?
[11:08] <Calthropstu> ok final final update is ready time to download and instal tomcat, openam, opendj, apachewebserver, openam apache utility, and configure ssl for all of them
[11:08] <Calthropstu> 2 hours
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> zorgborg:  you cant resize a partion thats in use.
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> zorgborg  like you can't repair a car engine while driving
[11:08] <Calthropstu> and running on no sleep
[11:08] <Calthropstu> (I really want this job)
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> zorgborg:   'in use' means mounted. :) you could unmount whatever you dont need.. but its easier to use a live cd.
[11:09] <Calthropstu> you cant seem to unmount your processor though...
[11:09] <qualia> my stat /dev/urandom gives Access: (0666/crw-rw-rw-) should i be scared :(
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> ls -l /dev/urandom
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 9 Aug 17 06:01 /dev/urandom
[11:11] <zorgborg> kk thanks, on /dev/sda4 extended theres /dev/sda5 - ext4 and a /dev/sda6  with and exclamation mark symbol and the file system is unknown, will this cause problems?
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[11:11] <Dr_Willis> zorgborg:  ! = mounted/in use.. and i would guess its your swap partition
[11:11] <abdullah> weather indicator always hang on ubuntu
[11:13] <abdullah> why weather indicator hang on ubuntu???
[11:14] <sergio> ola
[11:14] <sergio> alguien?
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[11:15] <MonkeyDust> !es
[11:15] <ubottu> En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.
[11:15] <zorgborg> Dr_Willis: so when i run gparted off a cd, do i just right click /dev/sda5 (or /dev/sda4 which 'opens up' to show sda4) and extend that and leave the swap aprtition well alone? thanks
[11:16] <jimmydotnet> If I'm mostly rsync-ing mp3s and jpgs and avis (compressed formats) across a network, should i bother compressing?  (-z flag)
[11:16] <Calthropstu> tomcat and opendj are done 6 more installs to go
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> zorgborg:  swap is easy to remake. so you could just delete it. do your resizeing around it.. and make a new one.
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> jimmydotnet  not if you want to play the mp3s directly from the remote device
[11:17] <rexis> if i have mint and ubuntu on a hard drive will they share the swap?
[11:18] <jimmydotnet> MonkeyDust: No I just mean while transferring the files, e.g. rsynv -avz ....-z being compress while tranferrring
[11:18] <Calthropstu> in ubuntu if I bash the tomcat startup using sudo, should that give tomcat su rights?
[11:18] <jimmydotnet> I figure it'd be a waste of cpu for rsync to be trying to compress already compressed data
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> rexis:  they can. but dont use the hibernate/suspend option.  which can save to 'swap'  and try to boot the OTHER os. ;) whichmay try to restart from the wrong suspended state
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> jimmydotnet  then they will be compressed when they arrive, not sure if you can still play them, then
[11:18] <Hans-Martin> rexis: if you configure them to use the same swap partition, that should work
[11:18] <Hans-Martin> rexis: oh and what Dr_Willis said.
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> jimmydotnet  i have that too, music (ogg) on a remote pc, not compressed
[11:19] <zorgborg> Dr_Willis: kk i have no idea what swap is for, is it best (less problematic) to delete it and remake after extension?
[11:19] <jimmydotnet> MonkeyDust: they get decompressed on the other side, it's to cut down on network bandwidth used
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> !swap | zorgborg
[11:19] <ubottu> zorgborg: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[11:19] <rexis> Dr_Willis: wait....so if i shut down mint after a suspend/hibernate, then boot from ubuntu is that a problem?
[11:19] <Calthropstu> (this is more a question on whether using sudo to execute a program will give that program su access rights)
[11:19] <rexis> Hans-Martin: do you know how to configure ubuntu to use a specified swap partition?
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> jimmydotnet  ah, that's different, no advice on bandwidth, tho
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> rexis:  if you Suspend to Disk Mint.. then Boot Ubuntu. it MIGHT try to 'resume from suspend' from the swap..
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> rexis:  i never use sudpend or hibernate. ;) so its never an issue.. then again.. i dont see the reason to use mint either...
[11:20] <jimmydotnet> MonkeyDust: okay.  thanks anyways buddy
[11:20] <rexis> Dr_Willis: so a full reboot would clear swap righ
[11:20] <Hans-Martin> rexis: I don't know exactly where you do it during install, but later on you can change /etc/fstab
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> a normal boot - would not be a resume so - swap will be used normally
[11:21] <rexis> Dr_Willis: thanks
[11:22] <rexis> Hans-Martin: could you be more specific
[11:22] <Hans-Martin> rexis: have you looked in /etc/fstab already?
[11:23] <rexis> Hans-Martin: yes i found fstab.d though and its empty
[11:23] <rexis> Hans-Martin: when I installed ubuntu i used no swap
[11:23] <Hans-Martin> and no file /etc/fstab? weird!
[11:23] <knyn_> How do I add myself to the sudoers file when I don't have permission?
[11:24] <Hans-Martin> knyn_: when you don't have permission, you don't :-)
[11:24] <knyn_> Hans-Martin: But I need to be able to add myself to it.
[11:24] <rexis> lol
[11:25] <Hans-Martin> knyn_: is it your computer? Then you should have permission (use root access for example)
[11:25] <opalepatrick> using terminal what is the best way to copy a directory one drive to another skipping existing files?
[11:25] <knyn_> It is mine.
[11:25] <Hans-Martin> if it's not your computer, ask its owner :-)
[11:25] <k1l_> opalepatrick: rsync
[11:25] <knyn_> But how do I get root access?
[11:26] <k1l_> knyn_: use sudo for that issue
[11:26] <namoamitabuddha> or4n: Sorry.
[11:26] <Ormie> If i upgrade to ipv6, can i access ipv4 servers?
[11:26] <Hans-Martin> knyn_: you should have set a root password when you installed it
[11:26] <k1l_> Hans-Martin: no
[11:26] <knyn_> Yes but it's not working.
[11:26] <k1l_> Hans-Martin: this is ubuntu
[11:26] <opalepatrick> cheers k1l_
[11:26] <knyn_> k1l_: I can't, because I don't have permission.
[11:26] <knyn_> And I can't access the file.
[11:26] <namoamitabuddha> Ormie: reverse proxy
[11:26] <k1l_> Hans-Martin: ubuntu has its root login and root password disabled
[11:27] <Ormie> X.x
[11:27] <Ormie> what?
[11:27] <ThinkT510> Hans-Martin: you set a users password when you install, root user isn't enabled by default on ubuntu
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> !root  > Hans-Martin
[11:27] <ubottu> Hans-Martin, please see my private message
[11:27] <k1l_> knyn_: why is your user not in the sudoers list?
[11:27] <Ormie> namoamitabuddha, because I am upgrading to IPv6 soon, Does my repositories need any tweaking?
[11:27] <k1l_> knyn_: did you delete it or change the users?
[11:27] <Hans-Martin> k1l_: oops - it's too long since I last did a fresh install - looks like I always set up a root password immediately after install
[11:27] <knyn_> k1l_: Because, I deleted the main account and added a new one.
[11:28] <knyn_> And gave this account Administrator perms.
[11:28] <k1l_> knyn_: then you need to boot into the recovery and edit the sudoers file
[11:28] <k1l_> Hans-Martin: which is not the ubuntu-way :/
[11:29] <knyn_> k1l_: How do I do that? ...
[11:29] <Ormie> namoamitabuddha, because I am upgrading to IPv6 soon, Does my repositories need any tweaking?
[11:29] <namoamitabuddha> Ormie: I don't know clearly. In some domestic university, IPv6 is for free and IPv4 is not for free.
[11:29] <Ormie> o.
[11:29] <namoamitabuddha> Ormie: I meant in my country.
[11:29] <Ormie> o/
[11:29] <Ormie> oh ok
[11:29] <Ormie> india?
[11:29] <namoamitabuddha> There might be some artificial firewall.
[11:30] <namoamitabuddha> No.
[11:30] <Hans-Martin> k1l_: ok I'll shut up about root issues :-) I'm not doing it the ubuntu way...
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[11:30] <namoamitabuddha> Ormie: Try #ipv6
[11:31] <k1l_> knyn_: reboot your system and choose the recovery entry in the grub-selection. then edit the sudoers file with a text based editor like nano
[11:31] <knyn_> k1l_: I have no grub-selection, this is my only OS on my laptop.
[11:32] <hateball> knyn_: You can get the grub menu by holding down shift during boot
[11:32] <k1l_> knyn_: then press shift when booting
[11:32] <knyn_> hateball: k1l_: Okay, thank you.
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[11:33] <savio> hey guys
[11:33] <namoamitabuddha> Ormie: Is it ok now: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/30057/ Yesterday, I was rude and offensive.
[11:39] <savio> anyone here?
[11:39] <zorgborg> gparted isn't on the alternate ubuntu installation cd's is it?
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> zorgborg  should be
[11:39] <agrester> Ubuntu is pissing me off lately, is there any way to stop update from overwriting files that are used by the Nvidia Driver?
[11:39] <ThinkT510> zorgborg: no, the alternate cd is commandline
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> ah, alternate is without gui, right
[11:40] <ThinkT510> !language | agrester
[11:40] <ubottu> agrester: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[11:40] <Calthropstu> ugh I have to be up at least another 3 hours
[11:40] <Calthropstu> I'm glad I only have the 1 interview today ^_^
[11:40] <agrester> Sorry I'll rephrase it,  is there any way to stop update from overwriting files that are used by the Nvidia Driver?
[11:40] <Calthropstu> question...
[11:41] <zorgborg> kk was wondering if could use that instead of my normal 10.04 cd, would have thought that would have an old version of gparted, can i download gparted and burn it to a cd myself?
[11:41] <k1l_> agrester: is this the nvidia driver from the repos?
[11:41] <emr> hello, whats shortcut of taking active window screenshot
[11:41] <agrester> I'm seriously about to go back to using Windows if this continues
[11:41] <k1l_> agrester: or is it a manually installed driver?
[11:41] <BotaniCar> agrester: just don't forget to buy windows 1st :)
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> emr  ctrl prt screen
[11:41] <agrester> k1l_ it's the manually installed driver
[11:41] <ThinkT510> zorgborg: i tend to use partedmagic livecd
[11:41] <k1l_> agrester: that is the cuase of that issue
[11:41] <Calthropstu> nvm found answer
[11:42] <k1l_> *cause
[11:42] <ThinkT510> agrester: if you installed it manually that means you need to maintain it manually
[11:42] <k1l_> agrester: you have to reinstall the driver after every kernel update
[11:42] <ThinkT510> agrester: thats why we only recomend using the drivers from the repos
[11:42] <agrester> k1l_ If I use the X-Swat PPA to install the driver, will I avoid having to resintall the driver manually after each update of Open GL libraries and such?
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> agrester  PPAs are not adviced or supported here
[11:43] <emr> MonkeyDust, somehow not working
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[11:44] <agrester> But then how do I get the current 304.37 Nvidia Drivers?
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> emr  it's alt prt screen
[11:44] <agrester> If the PPA is not keeping pace with Nvidia Stable releases
[11:44] <ThinkT510> !latest | agrester
[11:44] <ubottu> agrester: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.
[11:45] <agrester> But the new drivers fixed problems that made my system nearly unusable...
[11:45] <ThinkT510> agrester: we can only support whats in the repo
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> emr  alt prt screen places the screenshot in the ~/Pictures folder
[11:46] <agrester> 295.49 Nvidia Driver is deprecated though
[11:46] <agrester> Nvidia officially recommends 304.37
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> !latest| agrester
[11:46] <ubottu> agrester: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.
[11:47] <ThinkT510> agrester: and #ubuntu can only support what is in the repo
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> theres guides out there on installing the nvidia drivers from their site. but it can break things.
[11:47] <namoamitabuddha> Is there any #ubuntu-meta?
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> there mught be updated ppa;s that would be a better idea then the .run drivers from nvidia
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> agrester  if you want to use the very latest stuff, you're actually pioneerring and can't expect much help or support
[11:49] <k1l_> Dr_Willis: he got the drivers from the page and is complaining about the problems after kernel updates etc
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> every new kernel - have to reinstall the drivers from that web site...
[11:50] <agrester> MonkeyDust but 304.37 is the STABLE driver that is officially supported by Nvidia
[11:50] <agrester> They no longer support the 295 series
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> agrester  by nvidia, not (yet) by ubuntu, you have to be patient
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[11:50] <Dr_Willis> nvidia barely supports linux at times..
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> agrester  nvidia and thorvalds are not the best of friends
[11:52] <agrester> It's putting all this time and investment into doing Ubuntu and now I'm basically forced back to Windows
[11:52] <Dr_Willis> if you use the .run drivers.. with every new kernel update. you need to reinstall the .run drivers  i recall.
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> agrester  or you could ask the nvidia guys to work harder on linux
[11:53] <agrester> But they have they already released 304.37 Driver Version for Linux already
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> using 304.32 here on 12.10
[11:54] <agrester> The problem is that Ubuntu pushed updates that corrupts the install all the time
[11:54] <ThinkT510> agrester: you have said that several times now, that doesn't change ubuntu's support policy
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> agrester  then it's most probably just a question of time and patience
[11:54] <agrester> I think it's wrong thats all
[11:55] <ThinkT510> agrester: the problem is that you installedthe drivers manually and you don't understand that you need to maintain them manually
[11:55] <agrester> That means reinstalling them constantly?
[11:56] <agrester> In the end if I use X-Swat will I have to reinstall every single day like I have to now?
[11:56] <ThinkT510> agrester: why do you think we only support what is in the repos?
[11:57] <Dr_Willis> xswat is a ppa isent it? that should get updated as the kernels update.
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> you can always boot to the older kernel that worked via the grub menu perhaps.
[11:59] <ThinkT510> agrester: if you use the ppa and you get problems then we can't support you, you'd need to contact the ppa maintainer
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> agrester  we can't support every whim of every individual user
[11:59] <k1l_> !alis > k1l_
[11:59] <ubottu> k1l_, please see my private message
[12:00] <agrester> I dont think you understand what I'm asking, Nvidia drivers depend on libraries of tons of Open GL components, every single time Ubuntu pushes updates that affect those files it corrups a Nvidia install, I have installed the driver manually via the binary so this results in me having to reinstall the driver every single time Ubuntu pushes major updates, Nvidia driver packages from the repo are just repackaged binary installers...
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> if you use the .run drivers.. yes - you have to reinstall them with every new kernel update.
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> agrester  it corrupts *your* install, because you did it manually
[12:01] <agrester> So many or most of the problems that Ubuntu users have with Nvidia drivers and misbehaving programs are due to Ubuntu and their update scripts...
[12:01] <agrester> But it's not just Kernel updates, it's every single update that changes a single file that is a dependency of the Nvidia driver which can be a browser update or anything !
[12:02] <turbomettwurst> i run on the official drivers since 2008, no breakage ever
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[12:02] <agrester> Who do I have to talk to about this policy?
[12:02] <turbomettwurst> on not on of the 5 computers in my room
[12:02]  * Dr_Willis wonders what browser depends on a nvidia file..
[12:02] <turbomettwurst> so, no it is not ubuntus fault ;-)
[12:03] <Pici> agrester: you need to speak to whomever put together your nividia driver packages. It sounds like they're not properly calling dkms.
[12:03] <agrester> It's not due to a Kernel update
[12:04] <agrester> Here's an example, Ubuntu recently updated Firefox, so they deleted this file '/usr/lib/libOpenCL.so' in the process and that's the reason why Nvidia driver is not working properly...
[12:04] <ne0n> Hi
[12:04] <agrester> How can I prevent Ubuntu from deleting or messing with files like that?
[12:04] <k1l> agrester: i think you dont get the fact, that we (ubuntu) cant support the latest driver.
[12:05] <rypervenche> agrester: Then you borked your Nvidia installation perhaps.
[12:05] <johnm> agrester: that file is owned by nvidia-current, not a browser
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> /usr/lib32/nvidia-current/libOpenCL.so
[12:05] <auronandace> agrester: you installed your driver manually, apt-get wouldn't be aware of it, thats why it breaks stuff during updates
[12:06] <ne0n> About updates...
[12:06] <namoamitabuddha> auronandace: But I think the manually installation would put the installed files into /usr/local
[12:06] <agrester> auronandace, so you're saying that if I use X-Swat and install via apt-get it will leave it alone in the future?
[12:06] <rypervenche> agrester: If you want the latest driver and want it to be officially supported by your distro, then perhaps you want a different distro.
[12:06] <agrester> This process has happened before with an X Org update...
[12:07] <agrester> auronandace, is this true?
[12:07] <Metaliinuxite> I would like to update my kernel, but I have to download the package manually. Under which section of the package.ubuntu.com/lucid can I find it?
[12:07] <rypervenche> agrester: You'll be fine if you use that PPA for the most part, but things may still break. You'll need to get rid of your current manual installation.
[12:08] <namoamitabuddha> Metaliinuxite: Try this
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/
[12:08] <auronandace> agrester: i don't use ppas so i can't answer you
[12:08] <agrester> rypervenche, it's not a correct answer, Nvidia no longer officially supports the 295 series they're obsolete...
[12:08] <namoamitabuddha> Metaliinuxite: apt-get --print-uris -y install ......
[12:08] <namoamitabuddha> Metaliinuxite: You'll get the path of the package.
[12:08] <k1l> agrester: that is why ubuntu supports it
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> agrester  you use ppas at your own risk, they can break your system and that's what happened here
[12:08] <k1l> agrester: dont mix the ubuntu and the nvidia support all the time. that is faulty windows thinking
[12:09] <pacifique>  Hello, My Xchat network list is empty, any help please?
[12:09] <Metaliinuxite> namoamitabuddha: dont have aaccess to my Ubuntu right now :p
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> pacifique:  add some servers then?
[12:09] <Ormie> ohgosh
[12:09] <ne0n> Can someone help me with ubuntu start up problem?
[12:09] <namoamitabuddha> Metaliinuxite: Is your package list new enough?
[12:09] <agrester> k1l, that's the problem is that support in Windows is flawless
[12:09] <rypervenche> agrester: reread my second to last response.
[12:09] <pacifique> Dr_Willis the list was full Now i want to get it back
[12:10] <Metaliinuxite> not at all
[12:10] <pacifique> #join /backtrack
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[12:10] <MonkeyDust> agrester  complain @ nvidia, not @ ubuntu
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> pacifique:  no idea.  If you messed up the xchat settings. you could move/rename your .xchat2 directory and restart Xchat and it should use the default settings
[12:10] <k1l> agrester: long story short: you wont get the support  like in windows due to nvidia not giving the same support like in windows.
[12:10] <Metaliinuxite> Sorry, wasnt smart enough to guess it was under kernel :PPP
[12:10] <Ormie> MonkeyDust, have you ever thought of NVIDIA Optimus becomes: NVIDIA Octopus?
[12:11] <pacifique> Dr_Willis,  How can i know the xchat directory?
[12:11] <k1l> agrester: so stop blaming us or ubuntu for nvidia not giving support. take the driver from the repos or manage your own support
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> Ormie  i use intel
[12:11] <rypervenche> Speaking of which, I now have an Nvidia update^^
[12:11] <Ormie> pacifique, .xchat2 on your home folder
[12:11] <Ormie> in*
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> pacifique:  no idea.  If you messed up the xchat settings. you could move/rename your .xchat2 directory <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<   I just said it..
[12:11] <agrester> rypervenche, so If I use the X-SWAT ppa, install the 304.37 and then Ubuntu decides to update random software XYZ and that has a dependency called 'random.so' it will leave it alone because it will know that it belongs to that package?
[12:12] <namoamitabuddha> Metaliinuxite: aptitude search '~nlinux-image~i'
[12:12] <rypervenche> agrester: Shouldn't mess anything up.
[12:12] <Pici> namoamitabuddha: fyi, Ubuntu no longer installs aptitude by default. Also, aptitude does not handle multiarch installs very well.
[12:12] <Metaliinuxite> naomimatabuddha: I found it thanks (y)
[12:12] <Ormie> pacifique, delete .xchat2 directory completely. run xchat again. everything should reset to defaults. :)
[12:13] <pacifique> I don't see the folder in home folder
[12:13] <namoamitabuddha> Pici: Incidentally, do the ubuntu end-users usually use multiarch?
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> agrester  you're mixing ppas with offical soft, that's not good -- nvidia developers have windows in mind, they care much less about linux -- hence: compplain @ nvidia
[12:13] <pacifique> Ormie,  I don't see the folder in home folder
[12:13] <petoo> hey
[12:14] <petoo> oops
[12:14] <pacifique> Ormie, I mean xchat2 folder
[12:14] <carnau> Is there any way to generate a ubuntu live cd without mce log using UCK? Can't install ubuntu while my processor is ok.
[12:14] <ne0n> Ok. I'll present my problem and if someone wants to help me, please do so: After na update, i rebooted Ubuntu. Now i only get command line interface with login and password. Is there a way to start visual interface?
[12:14] <Pici> namoamitabuddha: iirc, Wine requires 32bit packages on 64bit installs, so it can be rather common.
[12:14] <Ormie> yes
[12:14] <Metaliinuxite> What is the difference between lets say precise and precise-updates under linux-generic?
[12:14] <Ormie> pacifique, give me the output of the ls command in your home dir
[12:14] <johnm> agrester: re: conflict detection of package owned files, yes, thats a generally inherant part of most package managers.
[12:14] <namoamitabuddha> Pici: You mean that the package with ...:i386 is multiarch?
[12:15] <pacifique> Ormie, Desktop    Downloads         Music     Public     Videos
[12:15] <Pici> namoamitabuddha: yes
[12:15] <pacifique> Documents  examples.desktop  Pictures  Templates
[12:15] <Ormie> pacifique, um.. pastebin me the output of ls -a
[12:15] <agrester> johnm, because I hate doing this whole Nvdia --sanity check reinstall dance...
[12:15] <carnau> once the CD loads, a kernel panic occurs: http://imgur.com/wLmdj  Don't know how to bypass it.
[12:15] <namoamitabuddha> Pici: Oh, now I see.
[12:16] <Ormie> carnau, you can't bypass kernel panics. you have to fix the error there
[12:16] <pacifique> Ormie, what do you mean?
[12:17] <Ormie> !pastebin > pacifique
[12:17] <ubottu> pacifique, please see my private message
[12:17] <rypervenche> agrester: I don't install anything that's not in my official repos.
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[12:18] <ne0n> Ok, thanks for listening. Bye
[12:20] <Ormie> pacifique, u there?
[12:20] <pacifique> Ormie, Yes
[12:20] <Ormie> so, pastebin me the output of ls -a
[12:21] <namoamitabuddha> Pici: It seems that the problem is partly solved in Debian upstream. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=672340, but not fixed, therefore it might be dangerous to use aptitude now. Thanks!
[12:21] <ubottu> Debian bug 672340 in aptitude "aptitude: Dependency solver always uninstalls all foreign-architecture packages" [Important,Open]
[12:21] <Metaliinuxite> Okay. Now that I downloaded all the files I need and their dependencies, do I just paste them all in the same directory and run dpkg?
[12:21] <namoamitabuddha> Metaliinuxite: yes, dpkg -i *.deb
[12:22] <Metaliinuxite> Thanks a lot
[12:22] <`7-Up> anyone in here who can help me figure out how to blacklist nouveau. I have followed all the instructions give on http://linuxers.org/howto/how-remove-nouveau-drivers-ubuntu and still have issues
[12:22] <pacifique> Ormie, I paste it
[12:22] <Ormie> woa
[12:22] <pacifique> Ormie, Have you seen it
[12:22] <pacifique> ?
[12:23] <Ormie> GIVe me the URL!
[12:23] <Ormie> pacifique, GIVe me the URL!
[12:24] <agrester> I'm so demoralized, most of what I do with Ubuntu is constantly fix things that Ubuntu keeps breaking...
[12:24] <pacifique> Ormie, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1152493/
[12:24] <Ormie> pacifique, do it right now: rm -rf .xchat2
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> agrester  because you expect ubuntu to behave like windows
[12:24] <Ormie> do it now
[12:25] <`7-Up> MonkeyDust, can you help me with my display drivers?
[12:25] <`7-Up> or anyone?
[12:25] <Ormie> pacifique, once you have done it. restart xchat
[12:25] <pacifique> Ormie, So now I restart Xchat?
[12:25] <Ormie> and it should be defaults
[12:25] <Ormie> YES
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> `7-Up  no, better ask someone else
[12:25] <heoa> My microphone is not working, how can debug this?
[12:25]  * `7-Up wonders who in here can help her or is everyone just as new as she is
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> heoa  in a terminal, type alsamixer, MM means mute
[12:26] <`7-Up> no problem MonkeyDust
[12:26] <namoamitabuddha> carnau: Ubuntu Install CD?
[12:27] <`7-Up> wow, came in here looking for help, but you all seem to be selective as to who you help. Not one person out of the 1598 in here has actually responded to my plea for help.
[12:27] <`7-Up> Really thought linux users were friendly
[12:27] <`7-Up> oh well thanks anyway
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> `7-Up:  you could give more details..
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> and have a bit of patience
[12:28] <`7-Up> <`7-Up> anyone in here who can help me figure out how to blacklist nouveau. I have followed all the instructions give on http://linuxers.org/howto/how-remove-nouveau-drivers-ubuntu and still have issues
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> !blacklist
[12:28] <ubottu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist.conf and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[12:28] <`7-Up> Sorry but I'm frustrated as hell
[12:28] <`7-Up> Been working on this for the past 4 hours
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> You make one file.. and run one command...
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> `7-Up  that's called 'learning'
[12:28] <drooopy> bonjour
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[12:28] <ubottu> Nous sommes désolés, mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.
[12:28] <`7-Up> ubottu, I've done all that
[12:28] <ubottu> `7-Up: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[12:28] <`7-Up> it isn't working
[12:29] <`7-Up> :/
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> The nvidia drivers allready blacklisted the nouveau drivers here.
[12:29] <namoamitabuddha> MonkeyDust: Maybe he doesn't know the exact name of the module.
[12:29] <`7-Up> all done
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> so give detailas as to whats Not working.. what IS the system doing exactly.
[12:29] <namoamitabuddha> already*
[12:29] <Sidewinder1> `7-Up, Please, also keep in mind that many may not know the answer to your question, for many reasons..
[12:30] <`7-Up> I already said I'm sorry
[12:30] <`7-Up> I guess I am just being pushing cause this is becoming a nuisance ....... sorry for my rudeness
[12:30] <k1l> `7-Up: i dont get your problem. if you isntall the nvidia driver package which is in the repos the novou wont be used anyway
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> when i installed the nvidia-current package. it blacklisted noveau.
[12:31] <Sidewinder1> Yes, I know you did; I'm just sayin' we understand your frustration.
[12:31] <namoamitabuddha> Incidentally, is nouveau very bad?
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> heres the blacklist file it used..
[12:31] <`7-Up> Dr_Willis, I followed the full steps on how to blacklist the nouveau drivers ....... and then went back to install the nvidia drivers only to be told that nouveau is not compatible
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> Noveau works very well on most of my nvidia machines.. now.. 6 mo ago.. not so much
[12:31] <k1l> `7-Up: so did you install the nviodia-current package?
[12:31] <`7-Up> no k1l
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> `7-Up:  i dident have to follow any steps.. i jsut installed the nvidia-current drivers
[12:31] <k1l> so why not?
[12:32] <namoamitabuddha> Why have I heard many times about how to remove it and install the proprietary driver?
[12:32] <Sidewinder1> namoamitabuddha, I don't use nouveau, to the best of my knowledge.
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> nvidia-current is the non-noveau drivers..
[12:32] <rexis> anyone know about connecting to google drive/dropbox with a sftp from console?
[12:32] <`7-Up> I followed these steps ............ http://linuxers.org/howto/how-remove-nouveau-drivers-ubuntu
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> namoamitabuddha:  it has issues with new chipsets. untill the issues can get worked out.
[12:32] <k1l> `7-Up: it is just: apt-get install nvidia-current and everything is done automatic
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> `7-Up:  and why did you follow that guide> when all you basically need to do is install the 'nvidia-current' package.
[12:33] <`7-Up> k1l, but it doesn't give me the latest nvidia drivers that are on the website
[12:33] <k1l> `7-Up: what is with that page? why dont you want the ubuntu way?
[12:33] <k1l> !latest | `7-Up
[12:33] <ubottu> `7-Up: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> `7-Up:  so NOW you want the 'latest' from nvidia.com  .... thats a totally differnt question/issue
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> `7-Up  agrester has the same issue, what you want is not supported here
[12:34] <namoamitabuddha> I don't think the latest drivers must be the best.
[12:34] <Sidewinder1> k1l, Shouldn't that apt command be prefaced by sudo?
[12:34] <`7-Up> k1l, I don't want the repository version
[12:34] <`7-Up> I want the version off the website
[12:34] <Sidewinder1> Well, there oyu are..
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> `7-Up  then you can't have support
[12:34] <Sidewinder1> you, even.
[12:34] <k1l> `7-Up: stop that windows behaviour that the latest is the best. that is a totally other way in linux
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/66328/how-do-i-install-latest-nvidia-drivers-by-hand
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> good luck..  the latest can break things...
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> and does
[12:35] <`7-Up> <Dr_Willis> `7-Up:  so NOW you want the 'latest' from nvidia.com  .... thats a totally differnt question/issue  <--- NO it is not ... I have the install file BUT can't get it installed because of nouveau
[12:35] <k1l> Sidewinder1: yes, it should be prefaced by sudo
[12:35] <Sidewinder1> That's why I almost never use the latest. :-)
[12:36] <Sidewinder1> k1l, Just figured I'd mention it. :)
[12:36] <agrester>  Heres the messed up thing...according to the Nvidia sanity checker a recent Ubuntu update has "The installed symbolic link '/usr/lib/libOpenCL.so' no longer exists.", I checked apt-file and the only possible update that could have removed that file is either Nvida-Current (which I don't have installed) or FGLRX which is part of an ATI driver package...
[12:36] <`7-Up> k1l`7-Up: stop that windows behaviour that the latest is the best. that is a totally other way in linux  <---- I've been running linux distros for 6 years but this is the first time on pinguy and the first time I've had this issue
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> `7-Up:  that url i pasted seems to give an answer..
[12:36] <`7-Up> I'm not a windows user
[12:36] <`7-Up> thanks Dr_Willis I'll go look at it
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> !info xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[12:36] <ubottu> xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (source: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau): X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.0.16+git20111201+b5534a1-1build2 (precise), package size 104 kB, installed size 330 kB (Only available for linux-any)
[12:36] <namoamitabuddha> Dr_Willis: I read your URI.
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> you dont blacklist noveau you remove it. ;)
[12:37] <k1l> aha, even using a ubuntu-spinoff. so better ask the pinguy guy
[12:37] <namoamitabuddha> Dr_Willis: It seems that the latest don't break things.
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> namoamitabuddha:  at least not today...
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> perhaps.. :)
[12:37] <[4-tea-2]> Howdy. I'm trying to load a kernel module with options for two identical devices in my machine. The kernel driver seems to initialize card #1 with the options I've set, then complains about missing options for card #2. Is that a driver bug or is there I trick I'm missing?
[12:37] <namoamitabuddha> Dr_Willis: *doesn't
[12:38] <`7-Up> Dr_Willis, that website shows the install, the problem is that when I do that install it's fine until it sees that I'm running nouveau and then it says it's not compatible and fails
[12:38] <namoamitabuddha> Dr_Willis: It's just the executive permission.
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> `7-Up: you dont blacklist noveau you remove it. ;)
[12:38] <`7-Up> my question is ............ how do I blacklist nouveau completely???
[12:38] <`7-Up> how?
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> `7-Up:  see the libne at that url that sayw 'remove nouveau...' then gives a command?
[12:38] <Sidewinder1> [4-tea-2], Perhaps a jumper setting on card 2?
[12:38] <k1l> `7-Up: better ask the pinguy support if they changed smth in their system
[12:39] <namoamitabuddha> Dr_Willis: It seems that "aptitude purge" only remove the Xorg driver.
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> commands are in 'grey' you dont paste the $  - thats showing you are in root shell.
[12:39] <[4-tea-2]> Sidewinder1: it's 2012, not 1992. ;)
[12:39] <namoamitabuddha> Dr_Willis: The kernel driver is never removed.
[12:39] <`7-Up> Okay thanks Dr_Willis I will give that a go
[12:39] <agrester> Just saying, if Mark Shuttleworth knew that users were being scared away like this he would be really upset...
[12:39] <`7-Up> thank you for your help Dr_Willis :)
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> namoamitabuddha:  no idea. im just reading a guide...
[12:39] <namoamitabuddha> Dr_Willis: "$" means non-root.
[12:39] <Sidewinder1> Guess he/she told me.. ;-(
[12:39] <oooaaaoooo> hi guys general chmod question: i changed the permissions for a whole set of files in a directory to 644 and had to "sudo" to do it; now when i try to access the folder it always says access is denied, and now i cannot access the folder...whats happening?
[12:40] <namoamitabuddha> Dr_Willis: "#" means root.
[12:40] <[4-tea-2]> Sidewinder1: I have never seen a PCIe card with jumpers or dip switches.
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> annoying when commands have the $# at the front and get cut/pated by accident.
[12:41] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: You should change each file in that directory.
[12:42] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: recursively
[12:42]  * Dr_Willis bets 7-up is back in 15 min compnainin the .run drivers dont work right..
[12:42] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: i used sudo chmod -R 644 .
[12:42] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: Yeah, it just change the permission of the directory.
[12:42] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: and now i cant even cd into it
[12:43] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: are you the owner?
[12:43] <oooaaaoooo> hmm
[12:43] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: I mean whether your username is the same as the owner of that directory.
[12:43] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: my usrname shows up in ls -al
[12:44] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: in fact it shows access as :rw-r--r--
[12:44] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: oh
[12:44] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: so why cant i cd into it
[12:44] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: You should chmod +x
[12:44] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: haha
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> a directory must be 'executable' to 'enter' it....
[12:45] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: why +x?
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> guess enter is not a good term.. 'access' it.
[12:45] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: cd -> +x
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> thats how directories work
[12:45] <petoo> executable :p
[12:46] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: ivenever used cd with +x before; how do i type it in
[12:46] <oooaaaoooo> cd +x ?
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> !permissions
[12:46] <ubottu> An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[12:46] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: Just 755
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> chmod +x thedirname
[12:47] <oooaaaoooo> Dr_Willis: thats like setting the exe bit in binary form right?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[12:47] <Sidewinder1> Mornin' BluesKaj
[12:47] <floo> hiho :)
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> oooaaaoooo:  identical syntax.. a directory has to be 'executable' for you to access its contents
[12:47] <oooaaaoooo> Dr_Willis: aahhhh not just read?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> Hey Sidewinder1
[12:47] <Sidewinder1> \o
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> oooaaaoooo:  identical syntax.. a directory has to be 'executable' for you to access its contents  ....... do i need to repeate this 4 more times...
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> wondered why you were doing 644 on a directory
[12:48] <oooaaaoooo> Dr_Willis: it was in a directory
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> and the directory itself has what permissions?
[12:49] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: ls -> read
[12:49] <oooaaaoooo> Dr_Willis: now? or before?
[12:49] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: cd -> execute
[12:49] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: creat -> write
[12:49] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: Is it clear now?
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> oooaaaoooo:  dosent matter i guess.. read up on linux filesystem permissions.. ;)
[12:49] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: i cant ls the contents of the directory as well
[12:49] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: That's because you cannot access (exe) it at first.
[12:50] <heoa> MonkeyDust: what is the microphone?
[12:50] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: right
[12:50] <jkeiper> man, i hate xchat ... what's the best graphical irc client out now?  every web hit for "linux irc client" is from 2010.
[12:50] <heoa> Is there some app to record sound?
[12:51] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: ok so is there anyway i can apply a batch chmod within a directory without changing the permissions of the directory itself?
[12:51] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: You can see that there are some trivial differences.
[12:51] <Sidewinder1> heoa, Sound Recorder?
[12:51] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: suppose that foo is a directory without x
[12:52] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: yeah
[12:52] <Ormie> YES
[12:52] <Ormie> YES
[12:52] <Ormie> ohps
[12:52] <FloodBot1> Ormie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:52] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: for i in foo/*; do; echo $i; done
[12:52] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: You'll see that the files are listed.
[12:52] <heoa> Sidewinder1: I cannot get it worknig x(
[12:52] <FlaxxBIrD> heyho
[12:53] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: without x, we can do that.
[12:53] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: It's just enumerating the files in the directory.
[12:53] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: lemme try it
[12:53] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: But if you want to access a file, it needs you have +x on that directory.
[12:53] <lasher> Am I in the right place for supoort with 12.04?
[12:54] <lasher> Am I in the right place for supoort with 12.10*
[12:54] <craigbass1976> I've got a samba share that mount's fine when I do a mount -a, but it doesn't mount at boot.  I'm guessing that mount runs before samba starts up.  How should I get mount -a  to run afterwards again?
[12:54] <DJones> lasher: 12.10 support is in #ubuntu+1
[12:54] <craigbass1976> lasher, I think 12.10 is #ubuntu+1
[12:54] <lasher> ty DJones
[12:54] <lasher> thanx
[12:55] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: Done? Well, I have spent too much time on IRC. Now it's time for me to memorize horrendously numerous English words!
[12:56] <monkfish> hi guys
[12:56] <monkfish> Why is it that when I install a new kernel i need to reinstall my wifi driver?
[12:56] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha:  syntax error near unexpected token `;'
[12:56] <monkfish> i mean, it's there, all set up and i need to repeat the process each time
[12:56] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: why are you memorizing?
[12:56] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: I'm not a native speaker.
[12:56] <matts45acp> how to run xchat in terminal
[12:57] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: just use it...like what im trying to do with permissions :S
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> matts45acp  xchat is not a terminal program
[12:57] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: anyways it spat out an error
[12:57] <DJones> monkfish: If you've manually installed a wifi driver, it updates the kernel, when you install a new kernel, it goes back to the default and you have to run the wifi update again
[12:57] <WeThePeople> matts45acp, like actually talk through the terminal?
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> matts45acp  if you want a terminal client, try irssi or weechat
[12:57] <monkfish> DJones, ah, i see
[12:57] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: Did you omit some semicolon?
[12:58] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: for ... ; do ; ...; done
[12:58] <monkfish> DJones, i'll take your word for it
[12:58] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: They are all necessary.
[12:58] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: do we need spaces before and after colons?
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> matts45acp:  weechat is a very very nice irc client for the terminal/console, great over ssh also.
[12:58] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: not necessary
[12:58] <nothingspecial> no semi-colon after do namoamitabuddha
[12:59] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: yeah 3 semicolons
[12:59] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: Oh, I know. You're using bash.
[12:59] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha:  yes
[12:59] <gauravgrt1> hi everyone, i am new to ubuntu and emacs, well i have emacs 23.3 installed on my system which is running 11.04,now that i want the new version of emacs 24 will that conflict with my already installed emacs
[13:00] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: Instead of semicolons, use Enters instead.
[13:01] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: ill try it
[13:01] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: or just as nothingspecial said, delete one semicolon after "do".
[13:01] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: eureka how come it doesnt allow the newline thingy
[13:01] <nothingspecial> oooaaaoooo: you don't put a semicolon after do
[13:02] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: for i in foo/*; do echo $i; done
[13:02] <d1zzYLuLz> im tryin to make a custom iso that will have a script i'm writing on it (it will do data destruction)...what application do you think would be the best to make the live iso?
[13:02] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: right cool so basically i just need to pipe the output into a chmod ?
[13:02] <d1zzYLuLz> i was looking at remastersys but it says not to enable automatic login and i'm not sure if the script will get copied over to the live iso
[13:03] <namoamitabuddha> oooaaaoooo: I remember Dr_Willis told you a URI. There's some details in that tutorial. It mentions how to use "find" command.
[13:03] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: ok ill look into it
[13:03] <namoamitabuddha> Goodbye
[13:03] <oooaaaoooo> namoamitabuddha: thanks i wont hold you up
[13:04] <WeThePeople> is it possible to ssh to tor browser
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> WeThePeople  you ssh to a remote pc, not to a browser
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> WeThePeople  maybe you mean, use ssh *in* a tor browser?
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[13:05] <WeThePeople> monkeydust, ahh.. yes then
[13:06] <Wiz_KeeD> hello guys!
[13:06] <d1zzYLuLz> im tryin to make a custom iso that will have a script i'm writing on it (it will do data destruction)...what application do you think would be the best to make the live iso?
[13:06] <d1zzYLuLz> i was looking at remastersys but it says not to enable automatic login and i'm not sure if the script will get copied over to the live iso
[13:07] <Wiz_KeeD> Could someone please help me and tell me why when i connect a secondary monitor to my ubuntu 12.04 lts it says "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(2646, 1024), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1366, 1366)"
[13:07] <Wiz_KeeD> ?
[13:07] <thys> #ubuntu-se
[13:08] <daemontux> does anyone know how to get the mouse cursor to autohide in video when compiz is enabled
[13:09] <ashley88323> Could someone remind me (as I've not used irc for many many years) how to hide the join depart and other messages in a channel?
[13:09] <sveinse> Hi. I've lost sound in xfce4 (precise)? I happens a day or two ago (security update?) I've got no sound in browser, spotify, vlc. But I /do/ got sound in skype...
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> ashley88323  depends on the program you are using
[13:10] <ashley88323> I'm on x-chat gnome
[13:10] <daemontux> look in your sound settings i had that problem and my volume was just all the way down
[13:10] <daemontux> well that was under xine
[13:11] <zykotick9> daemontux: hiding the mouse cursor would be application specific (for instance, right now when i move my mouse to my other monitor with MythTV my cursor disapears - an option in Myth).  What are you using for video?  i don't use xine, so i'm no help.
[13:11] <daemontux> xine is ok, but like parole, totem etc.
[13:12] <daemontux> why is it that slackware is so much easier for me,lol, alot of people think its harder, but i have more issues out of ubuntu, i wish slack 14 would get here already,lol
[13:12] <ace2> damn i good
[13:13] <sveinse> demonspork: alsamixer seems fine. Master and PCM track nicely as the main volume slider in xfce is adjuster. But still no sound
[13:13] <JustSomeGuy> daemontux, ++
[13:13] <sveinse> daemontux: ^^
[13:13] <JustSomeGuy> daemontux, relevant xkcd http://xkcd.com/456/
[13:14] <daemontux> hmm id make sure i have all the gstreamer libs
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> WeThePeople  ssh with tor can be done, technically, but you need very good skills to do it
[13:15] <WeThePeople> monkeydust, count me out then :)
[13:15] <daemontux> tor is awesome
[13:15] <WeThePeople> indeed
[13:16] <daemontux> hidden wiki, darknet hellyeah
[13:18] <aguitel> i am in testing with last nvidia driver and it is running slow ,is this ussue for anyone ?
[13:18] <royphelps> i have a question.  How can you control two computers, say my ubuntu and my windows computer, from my ubuntu computer?  Do I use something like virtul box?
[13:19] <ssta_> aguitel: slow compared to... ?
[13:19] <kmack> royphelps: you mean like synergy?
[13:19] <aguitel> ssta_, glxgears ,google earth
[13:19] <trond_> royphelps, wouldn't you use vnc? If you are meaning getting in touch with the gui and so on?
[13:19] <JustSomeGuy> hi there where does ubuntu specify when to unmount the root filesystem i have an ltsp setup where i have the problem that the network connection is cut before the root filesystem is unmountet
[13:20] <ssta_> aguitel: I get 3800fps from glxgears.  Is that slow?  Feels okay to me
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> aguitel  you're not the first to ask, it seems the latest nvidia driver hasnt been adapted very well to ubuntu
[13:20] <aguitel> MonkeyDust, ok
[13:21] <royphelps> vnc, yes.  Is there a way to do that from Ubuntu?
[13:21] <polygons> hey, i'm trying to share files with between my 11.10 laptop and my galaxy nexus android phone.  been googling, stuff didnt work and i'm not sure what to do, thanks!!
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[13:23] <hiya> hi
[13:23] <trond_> royphelps, you install vnc server/client on those machines that you want to control and then you connect - more or less.
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[13:25] <Daghdha> I am getting 'not all updates can be installed' can i see what causes it? (There are some unchecked ones, are those the bad ones??)
[13:25] <wildcard-> hey all
[13:25] <Daghdha> netscape libs
[13:29] <wildcard-> i got some kind of problem with a samba share. im accessing the share via windows and have a stand alone program on there which i and another person runs from the share. now i try to run some kind of "child program" inside the program it fails and i get following error in samba log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1152620/
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[13:30] <wildmanii> is there anybody out here that thinks encrypting GRUB is a good idea ?
[13:31] <wildmanii> GIANT ARMPIT STINK FOR SALE !!!
[13:31] <wildmanii> ANYBODY BUYING ???
[13:31] <wildmanii> CMON SAY SOMETHINNG
[13:32] <islandmonkey> wildmanii: Stop it
[13:32] <wildmanii> wow a response !
[13:32] <wildmanii> hey wuzzup ?
[13:32] <islandmonkey> 1ot
[13:32] <islandmonkey> !OT
[13:32] <ubottu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[13:32] <wildmanii> can i ENCRYPT GRUB ???
[13:33] <B0g4r7_> go right ahead
[13:33] <Daghdha> i did what the popup defaulted.. all seems ell.:) Ignore earlie rinquiry
[13:33] <wildmanii> how ?
[13:33] <Mi> Hello I'm looking for Jono
[13:33] <Mi> ..
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[13:34] <Daghdha> Hi
[13:34] <pankaj_sharma> hi there
[13:35] <Daghdha> My monitor can do 1920x1080, i want to set my ubuntu desktop (Wich i remote into) to slightly less that. Any way to do that? Say 1970x1040
[13:35] <NOsen> wildman http://bit.ly/NMzceg
[13:36] <_ruben> i wonder what one would gain by encrypting grub...
[13:36] <Pici> NOsen: Please don't do that. Its isn't helpful.
[13:37] <NOsen> its not helpful to give a url that contains answer to his uestion ?
[13:37] <Pici> NOsen: Not in the way you're doing it, no.
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> NOsen  better give one specific url
[13:37] <Chamunks> is there a bnc thats installable via apt?
[13:38] <centrelink> Chamunks: znc?
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> !info znc
[13:38] <ubottu> znc (source: znc): advanced modular IRC bouncer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.206-1 (precise), package size 1221 kB, installed size 2912 kB
[13:40] <Chamunks> centrelink, doesnt seem to be a factoid on znc :S
[13:40] <Chamunks> is there any community docs on it?
[13:40] <centrelink> Chamunks: just install it and run znc --makeconf
[13:40] <Chamunks> or am i gonna have to resort to archlinux docs for understanding how to set it up.
[13:40] <centrelink> Chamunks: I've used it far before I ever understoon linux, it's REALLY easy
[13:40] <Marzata> does ntp works in 12.04?
[13:40] <Chamunks> centrelink, ok fair enough I'm a total bnc noob I've no idea how to do it.
[13:41] <centrelink> Chamunks: just run znc --makeconf as the desired user that you want to run it with and it'll guide you through it
[13:41] <Chamunks> centrelink, ok awesome I'm looking forward to it.
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> !ntp > Marzata
[13:41] <ubottu> Marzata, please see my private message
[13:41] <Chamunks> centrelink, you think its a heavy process?
[13:41] <centrelink> Chamunks: you don't plan on installing this on your personal computer do you?
[13:42] <miririri7_dr0id> hello , I was wondering if anyone has the number for the head office in the states..??
[13:42] <Marzata> MonkeyDust: thanks!
[13:42] <miririri7_dr0id> for cannonical
[13:42] <miririri7_dr0id> canonical*
[13:42] <Chamunks> centrelink, no i have a server somewhere.
[13:42] <centrelink> alright, just making sure you weren't THAT BIG of a noob
[13:42] <miririri7_dr0id> hello?
[13:42] <miririri7_dr0id> guys
[13:42] <Chamunks> centrelink, but it would be wise of me to test it on my home computer first.  I just want to have a thing that will handle saving highlights n such
[13:43] <centrelink> Chamunks: just remember you have to create a seperate user for each server you want to use it on, and loading webadmin module will help ALOT (it'll ask you while making the config)
[13:43] <miririri7_dr0id> i need the number for the head office for canonical in the states
[13:43] <Chamunks> centrelink, also maybe hide my connection to irc by changing the default port as it leaves my home network.
[13:43] <centrelink> Chamunks; it's just really easy so I'd go ahead and do it on the server
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> miririri7_dr0id  HQ is in London, England
[13:43] <Chamunks> centrelink, im not using it for nefarious purposes I just am a security nazi sometimes.
[13:44] <centrelink> Chamunks: I get it, I run a proxy on one of my servers and have xchat connect to that lol
[13:44] <B0g4r7_> You might consider running ircproxy.
[13:44] <selavi> hi
[13:44] <centrelink> I just run a socks5 perl script
[13:44] <centrelink> lol
[13:44] <Chamunks> centrelink, I just wish there was a professional host that I could say donate like a buck and get a free bnc
[13:44] <B0g4r7_> That has the advantage of remaining connected (and logging traffic) even when your local irc client disconnects.
[13:44] <selavi> does onyone know a way to run losetup without beeing root?
[13:44] <Chamunks> well for life bnc kind of thing
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[13:45] <miririri7_dr0id> no no
[13:45] <miririri7_dr0id> i called the UK
[13:45] <centrelink> Chamunks: if you fuck around on the internet long enough you'll end up with more servers than you know what to do with
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[13:45] <centrelink> I have 1 ubuntu server, 3 arch servers, and a gentoo server
[13:45] <miririri7_dr0id> there are HQ's around it's not the only one -_-
[13:45] <B0g4r7_> That's true.
[13:45] <miririri7_dr0id> anyway
[13:45] <miririri7_dr0id> i need to contact jono bacon
[13:45] <centrelink> and I don't even use them, or pay anything for them
[13:45] <Chamunks> centrelink, we should pm to avoid going OT
[13:45] <miririri7_dr0id> it's a business matter...
[13:45] <B0g4r7_> Now in the age of VMs you can sand up a ton of srevers.
[13:45] <mneptok> centrelink: please watch the language
[13:45] <B0g4r7_> stand up
[13:46] <jose__> Hello
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[13:46] <jose__> I have a question.
[13:46] <bars0> Hi all! Does anybody remember shortcut in mc to bookmark ftp location?
[13:46] <B0g4r7_> My Windows 7 system runs Ubuntu Server which runs a software RAID on the attached USB disks.
[13:46] <B0g4r7_> It actually works quite well.  I'v bene using it for a few months now.
[13:47] <B0g4r7_> 8 2TB disks in a RAID-6.
[13:47] <Dr_willis> raid on usb.. seems... weird..
[13:47] <B0g4r7_> Sure does, but it works.
[13:47] <B0g4r7_> And if I need to, I can just plug the disks into another host (or VM) running linux software raid, and it'll be accessible.
[13:48] <jose__> I used smbpasswd to change the samba password of my username. I was very surprised to find that my unix password was changed as well. How do you change the samba password without affecting the unix password?
[13:48] <Dr_willis> jose__,  i always set them to be the same.. i make a user with password 'foo' and then 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' and enter 'foo' as that password also
[13:48] <Chamunks> centrelink, is webmin back in the repos?
[13:49] <Dr_willis> I think samba has a setting to sync the 2 passwords.
[13:49] <centrelink> Chamunks: it's in the znc package, it'll ask when you make the config if you want to load it
[13:50] <jose__> However, one of the samba documentation pages advises users to have distinct passwords, which is why I was so surprised by the behaviour of smbpasswd
[13:50] <miririri7_dr0id> I need the number for the canonical head office in the States please??
[13:50] <tewecske> i have a dell n5010 laptop with a corsair 90gb ssd with gpt partition, i use lubuntu 11.10. The system worked for months but now suddenly I can't boot (blank screen with blinking cursor and nothing in log files). I can boot from live cd and mount the ssd and browse it. I tryed Boot-Repair but it sais: "GPT detected. Please create a BIOS-Boot partition (>1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag). This can be performed via tools such a
[13:51] <swinchen> Hi all.  What is the correct way to launch xfce4 from xinitrc?  When I log in locally the terminals are a light gray color.  When I log in over FreeNX the terminal background color is black.  I wonder what else is different you know?
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> miririri7_dr0id  better write an email, i guess
[13:52] <jose__> <Dr_willis>, if I understand you correctly, you created a user specifically for samba sharing?
[13:53] <Dr_willis> jose__,  just my only user, i gave them a samba password.
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> miririri7_dr0id  what's so important, that you want to call canonical for it?
[13:53] <Dr_willis> jose__,  only share i ever make/use is the 'home' share. i enable by editing smb.conf.
[13:54] <Dr_willis> jose__,  so i add a user, set their password, set their samba password the same.  and then that user can access their Home direcotry from any pc ont he lan
[13:54] <polygons> poly
[13:54] <Chamunks> centrelink, should i create a chrooted user for the bouncer?
[13:55] <centrelink> Chamunks: what's the point? not unless you plan on giving somebody you don't trust admin
[13:55] <Chamunks> centrelink, i'd imagine im not really going on any crazy irc's but still is that a good idea.
[13:55] <Chamunks> centrelink, ok fair enough.
[13:55] <jose__> <Dr_willis>, the whole point is that I'm using a device whose system I don't wholy trust to access the samba share on my main computer. I trust it enough for accessing unimportant media files, but not enough to give it full user access to my main system.
[13:56] <AdvoWork> if i've just done sudo apt-get update  can i now see a list somehow of what it's going to upgrade?
[13:56] <Chamunks> centrelink, thats one other thing is i'm suddenly project lead on some plugins that were developing for minecraft and i've allowed some guys i've never met outside irc to install ssh keys into the main user in this ubuntu box.
[13:56] <Chamunks> centrelink, i imagine for the most part they cant install much without sudo
[13:56] <Dr_willis> jose__,  You dont trust the one device or its OS to access your whole lan.  You mean?
[13:56] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[13:56] <centrelink> fuck yes netsplit
[13:56] <ubottu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[13:57] <Chamunks> centrelink, have you any advice here?
[13:57] <centrelink> Chamunks: I don't know I don't generally let people use my servers unless I really trust them so I've never had problems like that
[13:57] <AdvoWork> if i've just done sudo apt-get update  can i now see a list somehow of what it's going to upgrade? repeating due to netsplittage
[13:57] <mneptok> centrelink: *CAN* you control your language? because if not, i'll stop asking.
[13:58] <jose__> <Dr_willis>, what I mean is that my user has sudo privileges and that I dont want its password to be known by the OS of the device that accesses the samba share.
[13:58] <JustSomeGuy> hi there where does ubuntu specify when to unmount the root filesystem i have an ltsp setup where i have the problem that the network connection is cut before the root filesystem is unmountet
[13:58] <Chamunks> centrelink, ok fair enough well they dont have sudo password since the ssh keys i got them using dont give them any actual passwords to the box itself so I think i should  be mostly ok.
[13:59] <centrelink> Chamunks: it's worth googling around how to set up a ssh jail if it's a concern
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> !google > centrelink
[14:00] <ubottu> centrelink, please see my private message
[14:01] <Chamunks> MonkeyDust, ?
[14:01] <centrelink> rofl
[14:02] <delac> so, youtube videos seem to be on fast forward. what gives?
[14:02] <Dr_willis> typical adobe flash issues sounds like. ;)
[14:02] <Dr_willis> are the colors all messed up?
[14:03] <delac> Dr_willis: nope, they are correct
[14:03] <Dr_willis> standard 'fix' to try.. full screen the video. use the settings on the flash video to disable hardware accelleration
[14:03] <delac> lets try...
[14:03] <centrelink> Chamunks: I'll be out for a little while feel free to pm me if youhave any more questions
[14:03] <Dr_willis> another flash issue.. you have to fullscreen the video to click on the settings items. :)
[14:04] <Chamunks> thanks I'll keep you in mind :)
[14:04] <Chamunks> centrelink, thanks I'll keep you in mind :)
[14:04] <delac> well, opening the settings crashed my firefox...
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[14:06] <diamonds>  http://pastie.org/pastes/4532810/text I'm getting this issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/176878/ubuntu-12-04-installation-stops-at-time-zone
[14:07] <diamonds> what do
[14:07] <diamonds> wait, it's not stopping at time zone
[14:07] <diamonds> but I'm getting that msg output (the one from the question)
[14:07] <diamonds> install worked fine but I guess it doesn't like my graphics card (?)
[14:07] <AdvoWork> if doing a symbolic link(so at the moment nothing exists in /auto/) is it ln -s /etc/myconfig.cfg /auto/  so that will make auto/myconfig  (which links to /etc/myconfig.cfg) ?
[14:08] <delac> Dr_willis: well, no it doesnt crash, but if I open the settings, it just gets stuck
[14:08] <Dr_willis> delac,  even if fullscreened the video first?
[14:09] <delac> Dr_willis: even when fullscreened
[14:09] <bitbarron> Does TOR protect all my traffic over the internet?  Web browsing, IRC, email, etc?
[14:10] <Dr_willis> bitbarron,  tor  dosent protect.. it annonamizes
[14:10] <subz3r0> bitbarron, you should "carefully" read the FAQ of TOR.
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[14:10] <bitbarron> Dr_willis, right.  GnuGP protects.  Tor makes anon.  Correct?
[14:11] <subz3r0> bitbarron, read the FAQ's! btw. this is no ubuntu related. please discuss those things in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:12] <subz3r0> "not"
[14:12] <pacifique> Hellp
[14:12] <bitbarron> subz3r0, OK.  Thx.
[14:12] <wildcard-> i got some kind of problem with a samba share. im accessing the share via windows and have a stand alone program on there which i and another person runs from the share. now i try to run some kind of "child program" inside the program it fails and i get following error in samba log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1152620/
[14:13] <pacifique> Hello, Does anyone knows how i can download a youtube video using ubunt software?
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> pacifique  use youtube-dl in the terminal
[14:14] <k1l> pacifique: search for youtube in the software center
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[14:14] <subz3r0> pacifique, use flashgot or easy youtube video downloader. both are plugins for firefox
[14:15] <selavi> does onyone know a way to run losetup without beeing root?
[14:15] <loconut> I just did a system update (running 12.04 with normal Unity (not 2D)) and all of a sudden my launcher icons are big and the icon size option is missing from settings appearance
[14:15] <loconut> i did another update a couple days ago and it was fine.
[14:15] <pacifique> subz3r0, Can i find them in Ubuntu software center?
[14:15] <saint_> hi all, i am trying to recompile rtl8187 driver , and i have an error message when i "make" which is "Warning: symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-sourcespirce-3.2.6/Module.symvers is missing" - can someone give me a hint on how to fix this  ?
[14:16] <delac> what is npviewer called these days (I have flash running but no npviewer)?
[14:16] <subz3r0> pacifique, within firefox... "extras - addons" search there for both of them
[14:17] <pacifique> subz3r0, Ok let me check
[14:17] <subz3r0> pacifique, with the first, you get a new icon on the top left bar, with the other one you'll get an option right under the video.
[14:17] <loconut> any idea how to fix?
[14:18] <subz3r0> pacifique, the easy yt video downloader let u choose the quality u prefer too...
[14:18] <pacifique> k1l, I find minitube,music tube Can them work?
[14:20] <pacifique> MonkeyDust, Then What next
[14:22] <maze> Hey
[14:24] <exarkun> Does even one of the video dvd burning applications on Ubuntu work?  I've tried all the ones I can find, k3b, brasero, devede, they're all horribly broken.
[14:24] <hiya> hi
[14:24] <mneptok> exarkun: i used DeVeDe 48h ago to create a DVD. it worked fine.
[14:24] <ControllerSYR> hi
[14:25] <exarkun> mneptok: I just spent an hour fighting with devede.  All it will do is telling me I don't have permission to write to the temporary directory.
[14:25] <ControllerSYR> welcome hiya
[14:25] <hiya> thanks
[14:25] <exarkun> (And a review of the code suggests it was written by someone extremely incompetent, so it's probably riddled with other critical bugs)
[14:26] <mneptok> exarkun: what is it using as a temporary directory?
[14:26] <subz3r0> pacifique, just install it the downloader..... restart firefox, open a yt vid and check the "icon" below the video...
[14:26] <exarkun> (Surprise, if you _delete_ the temporary directory, you won't be able to write to it!)
[14:26] <exarkun> mneptok: I told it to use "/tmp/scratch", amongst various other settings.  I have write permission to it, honest.
[14:26] <superfabbb> hi i've gta 1 for playonlinux, how setting graphic video? thanks
[14:27] <mneptok> exarkun: i have never seen that behavior. and i have used DeVeDe more than once.
[14:27] <exarkun> mneptok: Well, that's quite fortunate for you, but it doesn't really help me.
[14:27] <exarkun> Do you want to bring your laptop over to my house and burn this dvd for me?
[14:27] <maze> :G lol...
[14:28] <mneptok> exarkun: if you have found bugs, report them and fix them in your local tree.
[14:28] <exarkun> mneptok: Seriously, the devede code is a trainwreck.  It's not worth fixing, it should be thrown away.
[14:28] <mneptok> exarkun: i don't need a DVD. you do. you drtive.
[14:28] <mneptok> *drive.
[14:28] <exarkun> Along with the other useless, broken software that is, for some mysterious reason, packaged at all.
[14:28] <mneptok> exarkun: so throw it away and write something better. since that's the approach you seem to want to take.
[14:29] <exarkun> mneptok: You're being quite helpful.
[14:29] <mneptok> exarkun: GIGO.
[14:29] <exarkun> mneptok: Thanks for your recommendation.  Unfortunately devede is not going to work for me.
[14:29] <exarkun> So, does anyone know of any video dvd software in Ubuntu that does work?
[14:30] <delac> Dr_willis: so, It was just pulseaudio that was trying to use HDMI output (and flash didn't like that). For some reason my default sound card is chosen randomly between hdmi or audigy after every restart. I have alredy tried setting "options snd-emu10k1 index=0" in alsa-base.conf, but that didn't change anything. Thoughts?
[14:33] <superfabbb> when i open  wine-editor in playonlinux where is wineprefix?
[14:33] <TriBeCa99> Okay... so I was just updating from 11.04 to 11.10 in the GUI, it finished and rebooted... now during boot I get "error: symbol not fount: 'grub_divmod64_full' then on a new line a grub rescue> prompt
[14:33] <chris|> selavi, chown a loop device to your users uid and you can losetup as a user
[14:34] <marcus_> hi its safe to upgrade to 12.10?
[14:35] <marcus_> i meant its safe like debian testing?
[14:36] <centrelink> marcus_:
[14:36] <marcus_> yes
[14:37] <centrelink> I used it for about a month before going back to arch, and found it was mostly stable, but a few apps ALWAYS crashed
[14:37] <marcus_> i rly need 3.4 or 3.5 kernel
[14:37] <marcus_> oh ty im using normally sabayon so i dont afraid he he
[14:37] <Kaapa> hello. Is there a ppa for the 3.4 kernel ?
[14:37] <marcus_> just need buntu for this gf lap
[14:38] <centrelink> marcus_: I'd stick with 12.04, or use another distro that's more updated and just do maintenance for her
[14:39] <marcus_> i instaled her sabayon here but she dont like it she want buntu he he and problem is this runs on a6 amd cpu and nw kernels got way better use of turbo mode
[14:39] <marcus_> also btrfs fix in new kernel are tempting
[14:40] <marcus_> i jsut make dist upgrade and see whats happend xD
[14:40] <mwilliams1220> I should mention I am relatively new to Linux, even though I have been using it for a couple of years, this is the first time I had a problem that I couldn't find the answer to online:  Here is my question:  I am using 12.04 on a dual booted Toshiba laptop and I can no longer change the volume on my computer.  when I check output on the sound settings, there is nothing listed and all the options are greyed out.  I still have volume that I can control
[14:40] <mwilliams1220>  through what ever program I am using (VLC, Rhythm Box, YouTube videos).  The volume control works fine when I boot into Windows, so I am pretty sure it is not a hardware issue.  This happened sometime after I upgraded to 12.04.
[14:40] <mneptok> marcus_: 12.04 is just fine in my AMD APU.
[14:40] <yeats> !mainline | marcus_
[14:40] <ubottu> marcus_: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[14:40] <marcus_> mneptok:  yeah but turbo mode do not works at all
[14:40] <mneptok> marcus_: development versions are not recommended. they are more like -sid than -testing.
[14:40] <marcus_> exacly this cpu can run turbo on 2.4 ghz and on butu runs only on 1.5 ghz
[14:41] <marcus_> mneptok:  i started from debian sid way in 90s i can handle it
[14:41] <yeats> marcus_: I wouldn't move to 12.10 until late September/early October if you want any semblance of stability
[14:41] <mneptok> marcus_: it's not your machine. it's the GF's. she's going to care more about stability than eaking out every drop of performance.
[14:43] <jrib> marcus_: is 12.10 necessary for a new kernel for some reason?  Why don't you just try a newer kernel on 12.04?  If things don't go smoothly you can always fallback to an earlier kernel in grub
[14:44] <marcus_> got any ppa for 3.4 or 3.5 kernels cuz i dont find any xD
[14:44] <jrib> !kernel | marcus_
[14:44] <ubottu> marcus_: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)
[14:44] <mwilliams1220> I should mention I am relatively new to Linux, even though I have been using it for a couple of years, this is the first time I had a problem that I couldn't find the answer to online:  Here is my question:  I am using 12.04 on a dual booted Toshiba laptop and I can no longer change the volume on my computer.  when I check output on the sound settings, there is nothing listed and all the options are greyed out.  I still have volume that I can control
[14:44] <mwilliams1220>  through what ever program I am using (VLC, Rhythm Box, YouTube videos).  The volume control works fine when I boot into Windows, so I am pretty sure it is not a hardware issue.  This happened sometime after I upgraded to 12.04.
[14:49] <mwilliams1220> I should mention I am relatively new to Linux, even though I have been using it for a couple of years, this is the first time I had a problem that I couldn't find the answer to online:  Here is my question:  I am using 12.04 on a dual booted Toshiba laptop and I can no longer change the volume on my computer.  when I check output on the sound settings, there is nothing listed and all the options are greyed out.  I still have volume that I can control
[14:49] <mwilliams1220>  through what ever program I am using (VLC, Rhythm Box, YouTube videos).  The volume control works fine when I boot into Windows, so I am pretty sure it is not a hardware issue.  This happened sometime after I upgraded to 12.04.
[14:49] <JustSomeGuy> hi there where can i redefine what the shutdown button in unity does? (i mean the software button on the interface on the top right not the physical button)
[14:50] <rafaelsoaresbr> why xchat-gnome refuses to open?
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[14:51] <savio> anyone?
[14:51] <Djdh1882Jd> irc://irc.freenode.net/rubberec2
[14:51] <savio> my /var/log/message filled with
[14:51] <savio>  intel ips 0000:00:1f.6: ME failed to update for more than 1s, likely hung
[14:51] <savio> this type of message
[14:52] <savio>  blacklisting the driver stop the issue
[14:52] <Djdh1882Jd> quit
[14:52] <savio> but what about using that device
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[14:54] <vinzanity> im trying to configure email using https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/postfix.html but cannot seem to make it work
[14:54] <vinzanity> root@tireph:~# telnet mail.lingerieph.com 25
[14:54] <vinzanity> Trying 119.93.161.59...
[14:54] <vinzanity> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[14:54] <vinzanity> root@tireph:~#
[14:56] <TriBeCa99> Okay... so I was just updating from 11.04 to 11.10 in the GUI, it finished and rebooted... now during boot I get "error: symbol not fount: 'grub_divmod64_full' then on a new line a grub rescue> prompt
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[15:05] <Ristovski> Hello, I want to install ubuntu, so here are the settings, can anyone verify that this is correct? http://i.imgur.com/jmAkc.png
[15:05] <pranavk> my proxy allows only 80 and 443 outbound access. i am running an aws server with sshd running on 443 and now using corkscrew i can smoothly run ssh over the proxy. what i want to do also is to tunnel all my internet traffic also through this tunnel. i am thinking of port forwarding but seems like its not working with corkscrew.
[15:05] <llutz> vinzanity: check logs /var/log/mail* for errors
[15:06] <islandmonkey> Ristovski: Looks good to me
[15:06] <Ristovski> okay
[15:06] <louiemat> can anyone tell me how to fix these error I recieve at bootup -- E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room. Please increase the size of APT::Cache-Limit. Current value: 25165824. (man 5 apt.conf)
[15:06] <louiemat> E: Error occurred while processing libmono-corlib1.0-cil (NewFileVer1)
[15:07] <jpds> pranavk: Sounds like you want a VPN instead?
[15:07] <yeats> louiemat: the google reveals this: http://aziest.wordpress.com/2011/01/24/how-to-increase-your-apt-cache-limit/
[15:08] <pranavk> jpds. cant it be done through http over ssh thing ?
[15:09] <Ristovski> islandmonkey: is the device for boot okay? aka /dev/sda
[15:09] <islandmonkey> Ristovski: Yes. /dev/sda is your main HDD
[15:10] <StryKaizer> Is there a similar app for sticky notes in 12.04 ?
[15:10] <Ristovski> okay installing..
[15:10] <misaq> hi all guys
[15:10] <misaq> can somebody help me on creating vpn connections for Ubuntu?
[15:11] <misaq> I just created several VPN connections in network connections, but I can't start them
[15:11] <misaq> I get the error, "Cannot start VPN service"
[15:13] <yeats> marcus_: have you looked in /var/log/syslog for NetworkManager messages?
[15:13] <yeats> marcus_: sorry - meant for misaq
[15:13] <marcus_> o0
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[15:13] <misaq> yeats, not really
[15:13] <yeats> misaq: that's where I would start
[15:14] <misaq> yeats, I just see my vpn connections in network manager but simply cannot start any
[15:16] <yeats> misaq: syslog should provide you more information
[15:17] <misaq> yeats: I'm checking out
[15:17] <teszt123> hello
[15:18] <misaq> yeats: please see this: http://codepad.org/YQCiwuaV
[15:18] <misaq> yeats: that's my syslog
[15:19] <monkfish> Can anyone tell me why my wifi card experiences massive slow downs at random?
[15:19] <ajbiz11> anyone good at configuring squid
[15:19] <ajbiz11> in a vm
[15:19] <misaq> yeats: I think there's something about the issue in the log
[15:19] <monkfish> speedtest will show 10mbps and then ill check again 1 minute later and its 5 mbps
[15:19] <monkfish> my connection is rated 12
[15:20] <yeats> misaq: can you pastebin what's there and share the URL here in the channel?
[15:21] <roasted> Question - last night my system maxed the HDD space. I found out via ncdu (cli application) that 130GB was due to .xsession-errors. Now I don't use this system for much besides having an active RTSP stream to an outdoor network camera on my deck... what exactly could have happened to have populated 130GB of .xsession-errors? I'm trying to figure out what I did to cause that to avoid it in the future.
[15:21] <monkfish> anyone?
[15:22] <yeats> monkfish: have you checked /var/log/syslog for any relevant messages?
[15:22]  * yeats always starts with the logs if possible
[15:22] <monkfish> yeats:hold up
[15:23] <ajbiz11> could anyone help me configure squid in a VM
[15:23] <arcticmonkey> hey is there a way to make ubuntu server recognize a wireless interface?
[15:24] <monkfish> yeats, i have no idea what to look for
[15:24] <monkfish> yeats, there is a lot of wifi shit going on
[15:25] <ajbiz11> yes
[15:25] <monkfish> yeats, !yo what's this ? !!!40MHz Lower !!! Control Channel at Below. Central = 8
[15:27] <yeats> monkfish: I'm not sure, but if you're able to pastbin the log and share the URL here, someone may be able to help interpret
[15:27] <louiemat> yeats, I must be doing something wrong in entering the commands- I'm sorry but could you give me the correct way to enter the fix?
[15:27] <kdub> any one else have the '}' character open up the HUD randomly? (and how to fix?)
[15:29] <yeats> louiemat: all I did was google your error and find that page - I've not experienced the problem you're having... however, if you can pastebin what you've done and share the link, someone may be able to help
[15:29] <Yuechuan> ..
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[15:33] <nano_> nano
[15:34] <jbwiv> I'm having a problem with a runaway process. I'll be working and see my system monitor applet's load average jump up, and then just after, X becomes unresponsive. Then, I switch to a virtual terminal, and try to login, but it will only let me type my username...it hangs before prompting for a password. Only solution is a hard reset. how does one track something like this down?
[15:34] <jbwiv> worst case, I'd love to find a utility which sends various top process info (cpu, ram, io/wait) to a round robin file every few seconds, so upon reboot I could see perhaps the last five minutes or so prior to reboot
[15:37] <yeats> jbwiv: have you tried ssh-ing in from another machine when that happens?
[15:37] <jbwiv> yeats, unfortunately I don't have a machine handy from which to do that
[15:37] <yeats> ah -ok
[15:38] <drag0nius> hello
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[15:38] <yeats> jbwiv: have you seen this?: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/10/how-to-capture-unix-top-command-output-to-a-file-in-readable-format/
[15:38] <drag0nius> hows possible that my ubuntu server (working as router) cant resolve hostnames, but my comp in lan can?
[15:39] <drag0nius> everything worked like month ago and at some point it stopped
[15:39] <drag0nius> not sure when and totally no idea why
[15:39] <yeats> drag0nius: what are the DNS settings on the server?
[15:39] <drag0nius> both google dns in dhcpd.conf global scope
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[15:40] <yeats> drag0nius: what about /etc/resolv.conf?
[15:40] <louiemat> yeast, as you can probably tell I'm a newbee and I'm having trouble (Also) using pastebin could you inlighten me on how to use Pastbin? Sorry for the trouble, only if you have time>m
[15:40] <drag0nius> its empty
[15:40] <drag0nius> only 2 line comments
[15:40] <yeats> drag0nius: that would explain it - add 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' and see if you can resolve hosts
[15:41] <yeats> !pastebin | louiemat
[15:41] <ubottu> louiemat: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[15:41] <drag0nius> yeah, i can now
[15:42] <drag0nius> and how to make it permanent?
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[15:43] <yeats> drag0nius: does the server use dhcp for its connection?
[15:43] <drag0nius> yeah, its connected to modem
[15:44] <yeats> if so, it *should* automatically populate with the nameserver address when it gets configured
[15:44] <drag0nius> any way to force it?
[15:45] <Rajvi> Good Morning Everyone
[15:45] <yeats> I don't know, to be honest - I haven't had trouble with it
[15:48] <drag0nius> lets hope editing dhclient.conf will do the work
[15:48] <yeats> drag0nius: it will at least work until you reboot, and after that it should populate when you get a DHCP address, but at least you know what to check now
[15:49] <Anon18> hii
[15:49] <Anon18> any one actually here?
[15:50] <drag0nius> nah, there are just 1.7k ppl afking
[15:50] <Anon18> :P
[15:50] <DMASS> does anybod know how to set a serial port to 38400 E 8 1 with stty?
[15:50] <Anon18> sorry i have never actually used IRC
[15:51] <Anon18> can someone help me out?
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> Anon18  the best way to learn is by using it :)
[15:52] <dpwrussell> In Ubuntu Desktop /etc/network/interfaces no longer seems to be responsible for configuring my networking. I can configure it in my Desktop Enviornment (Currently KDE), but what service exactly is responsible for those settings now? Is /etc/init.d/networking checking places other than /etc/networking/interfaces as well now?
[15:52] <Anon18> yeah but i wanna host something on irc but how?
[15:52] <Anon18> monkey dust can you help please?
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[15:52] <cromag> ask a question instead Anon18
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> Anon18  first learn the basics
[15:53] <yeats> dpwrussell: it's been a while since I used Kubuntu, but it's probably some variant of/equivalent program to NewtorkManager
[15:54] <yeats> dpwrussell: NetworkManager, that is
[15:55] <dpwrussell> yeats: Yes, I think it is network manager responsible, but is that subserviant to the regular networking init scripts?
[15:57] <yeats> dpwrussell: I don't know the details as it's something I've not had to dig into to solve a problem - I do know you can control it by editing the /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf file to say managed = 'false' if you'd rather do it the "init" way
[15:57] <dpwrussell> yeats: ok, cool. Thanks.
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[16:01] <xjkx> ./File and bash says it doesn't exist, but it does, it even autocompletes, now what ?
[16:05] <W4sp> pwd
[16:13] <areallygayuserna> Hello does anyone know how I can contact Jono Bacon. I was directed by the UK Canonical office to contact him here.
[16:14] <jrib> areallygayuserna: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JonoBacon (his nick is jono)
[16:15] <CookieM_> and he's on the channel right now
[16:15] <sileni> hi
[16:15] <sileni>  I'm running Xubuntu 11.10. It seems what I write to /etc/hosts is not persistent across reboots. Has anyone encountered this kind of symptom before?
[16:16] <areallygayuserna> yea i just noticed i sent him a direct IM
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[16:18] <islandmonkey> sileni: Why not 12.04?
[16:18] <sileni> islandmonkey: not really supported by our company
[16:19] <islandmonkey> Oh I see. Work computer
[16:19] <sileni> islandmonkey: yes
[16:19] <vibhav> areallygayuserna: Could you please change your IRC nick to a family friendly one :)
[16:25] <Makdaam> hi, where's the DNS configuration held now? There's a local DNS server running on my machine (I didn't put it there explicitly).
[16:27] <xjkx> I have a 64 bits system, I want to install a 32 bits application, how do I do that
[16:29] <IdleOne> xjkx: if you use the software centre it will also offer to install ia32libs
[16:29] <xjkx> IdleOne: so just apt-get install ia32libs ?
[16:30] <IdleOne> xjkx: something like that. I am not certain of the exact package name
[16:30] <IdleOne> use apt-cache search searchterm
[16:31] <xjkx> ia32-libs-multiarch ?
[16:32] <IdleOne> that is the one
[16:33] <malloc_> Hi, where is the appropriate place to ask some questions about configuring ftp on server 12.04?
[16:33] <subz3r0> malloc_, here
[16:35] <antisocial> Hi all
[16:35] <antisocial> i am new to irc chat
[16:35] <malloc_> I installed vsftpd from command line but cant seem to connect with the client
[16:36] <trijntje_> hi antisocial, just ask away ;)
[16:36] <malloc_> Connection gets dropped without message
[16:36] <subz3r0> malloc_, did you bind the ftpserver to the corrept ip?
[16:37] <subz3r0> malloc_, and if youre using a router, did you portforward the correct ports to the correct ip?
[16:38] <malloc_> Its all open
[16:39] <malloc_> Just setting up the network so I havent restricted anything
[16:39] <subz3r0> malloc_, check the ftp logs in /var/log
[16:40] <malloc_> subz3r0, No ftp logs
[16:40] <centrelink> Hi, I like ubuntu.
[16:41] <zjhui2> hi , any one know whether the ubuntu 11.10 is multiarch ?
[16:41] <malloc_> I will check the config file to make sure it is loging.
[16:42] <malloc_> subz3r0, let me make absolutely sure all is good so I don't wate your time...
[16:42] <malloc_> Thanks
[16:48] <drag0nius> is it possible to connect via PPPoA with pppoeconf?
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[16:51] <r3dLunchb0x> have a crontab question. created a script (bash) to gather repquota info on top 10 space hogs, using crontab (root's) to send info via email, but the email is blank.
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[16:56] <ankush> #j #django
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[16:58] <InferiorHuman> My video card + onboard won't play nice together anymore after an Update. If I have the onboard intel graphics enabled in BIOS. Then ubuntu seems not to load the module? for the nvidia-current driver (gt 430) I have to disable onboard in bios to use my gt 430. I had made a custom xorg.conf that allowed me to use both. I have not changed the xorg.conf and now like I said they won't play nice. I really need help please.
[16:59] <InferiorHuman> nvidia-settings says im not using the nvidia driver but it should be..
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> InferiorHuman  the latest nvidia driver from their site?
[17:01] <InferiorHuman> no from repo's using sudo apt-get install nvidia-current. If I re-enable intel graphics in bios I have to remove that package and reinstall it again or X tells me I have no useable screens even if I run nvidia-xconfig
[17:01] <InferiorHuman> this has all been setup and working for more than a year on last release and now for awhile on 12.04
[17:02] <marcpv> hi! Anyone know why rhythmbox ask me for the password to unlock keyring when I just start it?
[17:02] <naveen1> Hi.. Update managaer shows this error : untrusted source "apport-hooks-medibuntu".. How do i remove this or force update manager to proceed?
[17:02] <designbybeck> What was the latest Ubuntu Distro Maker?
[17:03] <InferiorHuman> naveen1, you can do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade in the command line
[17:03] <designbybeck> I think this is the one I was thinking of: http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/03/easily-create-your-own-distribution.html
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[17:04] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: Is that one of those Optimus chipsets or just a regular integrated video Mobo with an additional discrete card plugged in?
[17:05] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, hey there buddy! it's Erin from last night
[17:05] <InferiorHuman> hold on let me find the relevant lines.
[17:05] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: Grrr! :D  ... get me the entire /var/log/dmesg to pastebin
[17:06] <InferiorHuman> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)
[17:06] <InferiorHuman> is the discrete card. and I have the intel disabled right now
[17:06] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, do you need me to enable the intel first before I paste dmesg so you can see any errors ?
[17:06] <CurlyBrace> Hello
[17:07] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: Both please so I can compare them
[17:07] <CurlyBrace> I am trying to connect to an Ubuntu VM on windows via another windows computer, any suggetions?
[17:07] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, ok hold on give you the one with only NVIDIA first.
[17:07] <ssta_> CurlyBrace: as long as the VM is on the network (bridged mode rather than NAT) it should Just Work
[17:07] <Areckx> I am having a werid problem: when I first start my computer, it'll run fine for hours (or minutes, it seems to be random) and then all of a sudde the system monitor will beat 100% cpu and everything will be slow, it happened just now when I was watching a youtube video
[17:08] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, nvidia only
[17:08] <InferiorHuman>     http://paste.ubuntu.com/1152985/
[17:08] <TJ-> CurlyBrace: {}  You'd need to set a static route on the source PC that tells it to route packets destined for the VM's sub-net via the Windows PC hosting the VM
[17:08] <Areckx> It usually only happens after starting to play videos, but sometimes it'll just happen out of nowhere when I'm in chromium
[17:08] <CurlyBrace> uhhh...that sounds tricky
[17:09] <TJ-> CurlyBrace: not really :)
[17:09] <Areckx> System monitor is saying that System Monitor is running at 52% cpu
[17:09] <Areckx> This is strange
[17:10] <naveen1> InferiorHuman, thanks, it works.
[17:10] <TaJMoX> In Xchat, how do I connect to multiple servers?
[17:10] <TJ-> CurlyBrace: see http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/sag_tcpip_pro_addstaticroute.mspx?mfr=true
[17:10] <Areckx> TaJMoX::  which client ytou using?
[17:11] <TaJMoX> Xchat-gnome
[17:11] <TJ-> TaJMoX: I use xchat2 ... that allows as many networks as you want to be open simultaneously. Not sure about xchat-gnome
[17:12] <Areckx> Go to network list >> servers, and under Ubuntu servers, uncheck thge box that says "connect to this server only"
[17:12] <TaJMoX> I'll try Xchat2 Thanks TJ
[17:13] <Areckx> anyway what is going on with my CPU usage?
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[17:13] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, bear with me a few minutes unexpected tech difficulties. brb getting that log.
[17:13] <Areckx> it seems very random, and just now it was up really high and going to settings >> connection in xchat was reallly laggy
[17:13] <TJ-> Areckx: That's not what the option means... That option is for when you'e got lots of servers listed for a particular network and only want to connect to your preferred server, rather than letting Xchat choose randomly
[17:13] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: OK
[17:13] <CurlyBrace> Thanks for the help...but maybe I should try another route...
[17:14] <Areckx> TJ-::  ahh didn't realize that
[17:14] <TJ-> CurlyBrace: route add ... is the standard way routing is done for all OSs
[17:14] <TJ-> Areckx: It's useful for when you've got servers listed all over the world and want to only connect to your local server
[17:15] <Areckx> WELL anyway, it realllllly spikes when I open up chromium, what's the deal?
[17:16] <TJ-> Areckx: chromium being busy initialising?
[17:16] <Areckx> well it'll stay spiked
[17:16] <Areckx> now it went back down, this is really strange, it was running fine until just a few days ago, I did a complete system reinstall and it is doing it again
[17:17] <marcpv> please, anoyone know why Rhythmbox ask me for keyring password every time?
[17:17] <aubre> My left mouse button on my logitech mouse sometimes acts like it is always down, I unplugged my Logitech USB headphones and the left mouse button works again. Ideas?
[17:18] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1153004/
[17:19] <InferiorHuman> sorry that took forever.
[17:19] <TJ-> Areckx: Use tools like top, htop, iotop and so on to find out which processes are responsible
[17:19] <drag0nius_netboo> anyone knows how to set up ubuntu server to use Speedstream 4100 in bridge mode?
[17:19] <drag0nius_netboo> connecting through pppoe/pppoa
[17:19] <drag0nius_netboo> pppoeconf does not find it
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[17:20] <TaJMoX> Xchat 2.8.8 is much better thanks TJ
[17:21] <TJ-> drag0nius_netboo: I had a similar issue some time ago; it turned out the ADSL modem's embedded linux kernel was missing one of the disciplines required to support PPP
[17:22] <aubre> trying pluggin them up in different locations
[17:23] <TJ-> drag0nius_netboo: I discovered that PPPoA was missing the discipline, but PPPoE was OK
[17:23] <drag0nius_netboo> but how do i set up connection in ubuntu?
[17:24] <aubre> headphones now on bus 001, mouse on bus 002
[17:24] <drag0nius_netboo> what else is there to use since pppoeconf dont work
[17:24] <TaJMoX> Network Connections -> DSL doesn't work?
[17:25] <drag0nius_netboo> i've ubuntu server
[17:25] <TaJMoX> Oh
[17:25] <miriam_spotvisio> i need the canonical head office number of the US
[17:26] <TJ-> drag0nius_netboo: I added a simple setup to /etc/ppp/peers/ and ppp0 to /etc/network/interfaces
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> miriam_spotvisio  first write an email to canonical, ask permission to call him
[17:26] <ssta_> miriam_spotvisio: canonical head ofice isn't in the US
[17:27] <drag0nius_netboo> i dont need to set up; eth0 to which is modem connected?
[17:27] <TJ-> drag0nius_netboo: This is my /etc/ppp/peers/isp script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1153018/
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> miriam_spotvisio  and Canonical HQ is in London, England
[17:27] <miriam_spotvisio> i called the UK head office
[17:27] <miriam_spotvisio> they directed me here
[17:27] <miriam_spotvisio> to speak to jono
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> miriam_spotvisio  hard to believe
[17:27] <ssta_> miriam_spotvisio: there's a Boston office.  See: http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/contact/our-offices
[17:27] <TJ-> miriam_spotvisio: here? for what? support?
[17:28] <miriam_spotvisio> naah
[17:28] <miriam_spotvisio> i'm a business development manager we want to get ubuntu involved
[17:28] <miriam_spotvisio> in an event
[17:29] <miriam_spotvisio> the link you just sent is only fax #s
[17:29] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, do you see anything wrong in those 2 logs?
[17:29] <jono> miriam_spotvisio, I already responded
[17:29] <jono> please stop spamming me in private messages
[17:29] <jono> I gave you my email address to emai,
[17:29] <jono> email
[17:29] <miriam_spotvisio> oh i didn't see it
[17:29] <miriam_spotvisio> thank you
[17:30] <jono> no problem
[17:31] <TaJMoX> What's a good GUI program that displays what processes are using network traffic? Right now I am uploading at 36kbps and don't know why.
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[17:31] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: 2 logs? I only have one so far... the 1153004
[17:31] <endafy> when removing firefox via the USC it gets stuck at the end
[17:32] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, oh ok, that log the 3004 is for having nvidia+intel, this one is for just nvidia http://paste.ubuntu.com/1152985/
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> hello channel I have a aceraspire one d250 running 12.04, and am unable to get the microphone working for google plus chat with classmates, I suspect I'm missing a app not sure what though.
[17:33] <Guest39915> some speak spanish
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[17:33] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: thanks
[17:33] <Pici> !es | Guest39915
[17:33] <ubottu> Guest39915: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.
[17:33] <endafy> ya know there are so many packages out of date
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> endafy  try sudo apt-get firefox ; sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:33] <endafy> pithos refuses to run because the package is out of date
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> endafy  try sudo apt-get purge firefox ; sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:33] <endafy> MonkeyDust, I did
[17:34] <Areckx> Do you think I might have a virus?
[17:34] <endafy> gimp is still 2.6?
[17:34] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, no problem thank you! I  just don't know what broke my setup I don't see how the disk being full could have broken my X server (after we fixed the full issue)
[17:34] <endafy> pithos refuses to run because it needs to be updated
[17:34] <endafy> what the hell people get with the fucking program update the applications
[17:34] <zorgborg> hi, im running gparted livecd + bout to expand my ubuntu partition into unallocated space, but it says on ubuntu wiki that this wont work if my linux partition is on 'the extended partition', what exactly does this mean?
[17:34] <A_J> does ubuntu support i686 processers, if yes can some1 link me to lubuntu i686
[17:36] <Pici> A_J: The 32bit versions will support i686 processors just fine.
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> zorgborg  you can have 4 primary partitions, but inside an extended partition, you can make more
[17:36] <A_J> Pici i tried a lubuntu installatiom. it gave me an error.
[17:36] <A_J> 11.04
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[17:39] <Guest65837> Hi all
[17:39] <zorgborg> MonkeyDust: i dont know the difference between a primary and extended partition, i installed linux after windows (which came with the laptop) so i assume windows was a primary whatever that means and linux is extended?
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[17:39] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: Can you look in /var/log/ for older dmesg.X.gz compressed logs from when it worked? I need to see one of those to compare before-and-after. You can pastebin those using "zcat <filename> | pastebinit"
[17:40] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, OK
[17:40] <blakes> Anyone know if there is a sabayon equivalent that works for manipulating the Unity desktop?
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> !partition > zorgborg
[17:40] <ubottu> zorgborg, please see my private message
[17:41] <ThinkT510> blakes: we only support ubuntu here
[17:41] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1153039/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/1153040/
[17:41] <InferiorHuman>  thats from dmesg.3.gz and 4
[17:41] <Pici> ThinkT510: sabayon is also a tool for locking down the desktop.
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[17:42] <ThinkT510> Pici: oh, i was thinking of the gentoo based distro (which no doubt you noticed)
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> zorgborg  that link in the factoid is dead, try this one, partitioning is the hardest part, it kept me from using linux years ago https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[17:42] <blakes> Not talking about sabayon linux, ThinkT510, talking about the software to manage user configs (http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/sabayon)
[17:43] <A_J> does ubuntu support i686
[17:43] <A_J> !i686
[17:43] <ThinkT510> blakes: desktop support for hardy ran out a long while ago
[17:43] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: Thanks... I'm reading up on the same bug on Redhat ... seems its been around a while
[17:43] <drag0nius_netboo> TJ-: you have some guide how to set up rp-pppoe?
[17:44] <blakes> Right, thinkt510..... that's why I am asking about an equivalent for UNITY.  sheesh.
[17:45] <TaJMoX> What's a good GUI program that displays what processes are using network traffic? Right now I am uploading at 36kbps and don't know why.
[17:45] <ThinkT510> blakes: i was confused by your link, which mentions hardy
[17:46] <A_J> Pici are you sure about 32bit supportin i686
[17:46] <TJ-> drag0nius_netboo: I don't recall one - I just added that setting to the pppoe config file and it worked
[17:48] <TJ-> A_J: Yes, the i386 does support almost all i686 (as long as they have the imov instruction)
[17:48] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: still reading up on yours
[17:48] <ThinkT510> blakes: oneiric (11.10) seems to be the last one that has sabayon in the repo
[17:49] <zorgborg> MonkeyDust: thanks for the links but im just gonna drive on ahead and see what happens, got all my data backed up
[17:49] <A_J> TJ- it's says 600Mhz Intel Original Processer
[17:49] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, awesome making a sandwhich :-P
[17:51] <TJ-> A_J: I was reading the "CPU" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/hardware-supported.html
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[17:52] <TJ-> A_J: It says the same for 11.04 too https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/installation-guide/i386/hardware-supported.html
[17:52] <traubisoda> hi all
[17:52] <bmomjian> With Ubuntu 12.04 and Gnome classic, my desktop dropdown list of Places are not showing up randomly after boot because they are NFS mounts and the mount isn't happening quickly enough.  The Nautilus NFS bookmark locations show fine.  Any idea on how to delay the panel check for NFS locations?
[17:52] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: can you pastebin the xorg.conf  and /var/log/Xorg.0.log please?
[17:52] <traubisoda> i've just installed proftpd and i got the following error: ProFTPD warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration.
[17:53] <traubisoda> fresh install
[17:53] <traubisoda> any ideas?
[17:54] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, sure
[17:55] <InferiorHuman> TJ-,
[17:55] <InferiorHuman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1153067/
[17:55] <InferiorHuman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1153067/
[17:55] <FloodBot1> InferiorHuman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[17:55] <InferiorHuman> oooops.
[17:56] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, 3067 and 3068 :-P
[17:56] <InferiorHuman> like I said before I made that xorg.conf by hand after some research and it had worked until recently :-)
[17:57] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: re xorg.conf. I just want to understand what the server is being asked to do
[17:58] <Froodle> Why don't Banshee or Rhythmbox close when I tell it to close?  Ctrl-W?  The X in the corner?
[17:58] <drag0nius_netboo> TJ- i'm getting Timeout waiting for PADO packets
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[18:00] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, understood. this is my music machine and home server.  the monitor run by the nvidia is HDMI to a 720p hdtv that some times I watch movies etc on when the wife takes over the big screen upstairs :-). the second monitor I use mainly for ncmpcpp for my music. that monitor is VGA. Doubt you needed to know any of that but figured i'd share haha.
[18:00] <A_J> TJ- i dont see i686 in there :(
[18:00] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: What I see in Xorg.0.log is that the intel driver is trying to control the nvidia card :s
[18:00] <DemiStar> Hello all
[18:00] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, makes perfect sense based on whats happening lol.
[18:00] <TJ-> A_J: "However, Ubuntu natty will not run on i586 or earlier processors. Despite the architecture name "i386", support for actual 80386 processors (and their clones) was dropped with the Sarge (r3.1) release of Debian[2]. (No version of Linux has ever supported the 286 or earlier chips in the series.) Support for i586 and lower processors, as well as for i686 processors without the cmov instruction, was dropped in Ubuntu 10.10. Most i686 and later processors are still
[18:00] <TJ-> supported[3]. "
[18:01] <om26er> my window controls started appearing on the right, after I logged into gnome classic session. How do i get them back to the left?
[18:01] <DemiStar> How can move over my personal setting, such as bookmarks and saved pswds for Firefox and Thunderbird...,
[18:02] <A_J> TJ- maybe i downloaded the x64 one
[18:02] <DemiStar> I already copied .mozilla folder in my home folder..
[18:02] <A_J> i'll download the x86 alternate one again
[18:03] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, so this is just a bug in ubuntu, I wonder if they will fix it ;-(
[18:04] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: There's something wrong with your xorg.conf. Look at the 2 "Device" sections. For both you have the 'nvidia' driver set, but the BusIDs are Card0 == NVidia, Card1 == Intel
[18:04] <z3rongod---> Hi
[18:04] <z3rongod---> Keine Deutschen hier?
[18:04] <Pici> !de | z3rongod---
[18:04] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, doh!.
[18:04] <ubottu> z3rongod---: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!
[18:04] <z3rongod---> Danke pici but i don't actually need help with ubuntu, i just want to talk to someone from germany :)
[18:04] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: and in Xorg.0.log you have this: (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
[18:05] <Areckx> I have Dell Inspiron 1720 running Ubuntu 10.04 : How do I update my graphics card? I did it in previous install with a command line,
[18:05] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: So I think you need to re-install the Nvidia driver!
[18:05] <A_J> thanks TJ- btw
[18:05] <blazingtruth> Areckx, I would recommend Bumblebee
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[18:05] <Areckx> blazingtruth::  what???
[18:06] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, so why did it work before lol
[18:06] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, since my xorg.conf was always wrong.
[18:06] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: Magic :D
[18:06] <InferiorHuman> I was close enough I guess.
[18:06] <InferiorHuman> do I change the card 1 driver to "intel"
[18:06] <InferiorHuman> is that what the driver is called?
[18:06] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: Because the xorg would be ignored if the two drivers are auto-detected
[18:07] <L3top> Areckx: lspci | grep -w 'VGA' | wc -l
[18:07] <L3top> will return a number
[18:07] <blazingtruth> Areckx, what exactly are you trying to do? I just got here, so I just said the first thing that came to mind. :P
[18:07] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: I think you do, yes. PCI 0:2:0 is the intel device
[18:07] <DemiStar> How can move over my personal setting for Firefox and Thunderbird from one PC to another;  I already copied over .mozilla folder in home folder
[18:08] <DemiStar> is that all i need, or do I need to copy over any other folders?
[18:08] <InferiorHuman>   TJ- yea that much I was able to figure out when I did my research. just an fyi it DID NOT EVER work before I made that albeit slightly incorrect xorg.conf file haha. hurray for magic. So I have changed that line to "intel" now re-install nvidia-current + reboot ?
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[18:08] <TJ-> DemiStar: Thats' all you need for Firefox. For Thunderbird you need .thunderbird/ too
[18:08] <Areckx> L3top::  it just produced a > with a blinking cursor
[18:09] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: Yes, I hope that's all you need!
[18:09] <L3top> then it was typed wrong. ctrl c        Areckx
[18:09] <InferiorHuman> we shall see :-P
[18:09] <Areckx> blazingtruth::  well I am experiencing 100% cpu for extended periods of time, running top seems to tell me nothing strange is running
[18:09] <DemiStar> TJ-, thanx!!
[18:09] <Areckx> L3top::  I did...
[18:09] <L3top> lspci | grep VGA    Areckx... how many lines does that produce
[18:10] <blazingtruth> Areckx, then I think Bumblebee might help (at least it did for me). https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[18:10] <Areckx> L3top::  lspci | grep -w 'VGA' | wc -l
[18:10] <Areckx> it prodiuced one line "1"
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[18:10] <L3top> then bumblebee is not what you need
[18:11] <cajacaliente> Can anyone confirm or deny the issues detailed in this post? http://redd.it/ydvz9
[18:11] <Areckx> What is bumblebee?
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[18:11] <L3top> It is a program to deal with hybrid GPUs
[18:11] <blazingtruth> Ok  -  don't mind me. I'm by no means a pro at this.
[18:11] <Areckx> I am using a Dell inspiron 1720
[18:12] <L3top> I do not know every chipset for every generic model I am afraid. Can I have the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[18:12] <Areckx> blazingtruth::  all suggestions are valid, not all of them work for every issue
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[18:13] <Areckx> L3top::  yeah those are the kind of commands I was looking for, I don't know how people memorize those commands o_O: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2a02] (rev 0c)
[18:13] <Froodle> Why don't Banshee or Rhythmbox close when I tell them to close?  Ctrl-W?  The X in the corner?  Right-click and Quit from the Unity bar?  I need the music to STOP PLAYING.
[18:13] <L3top> Areckx: Can you please explain the original problem to me again? I just dropped in
[18:13] <L3top> Areckx: also what version of ubuntu you are on
[18:14] <Areckx> L3top::  well recently I have started having extended periods of 100% cpu usage and it makes everything realllly slow
[18:14] <Pelo> good afternoon folks, I need a program recommendation,  I'm making a placard ( bit like road sign ) I need software that will let me move/resize/warp text  gimp isn't doing it for me and libreoffice isn'T up to par either
[18:14] <Areckx> 10.04
[18:14] <xangua> Froodle: stop music and close it or use Control+q
[18:14] <Areckx> Pelo::  gimps is 100% featured...
[18:14] <OerHeks> Froodle press play button again
[18:14] <L3top> Areckx: sudo apt-get install libva-driver-i965
[18:15] <Froodle> The Pause button is NOT closing the program.
[18:15] <Areckx> L3top::  E: Couldn't find package libva-driver-i965
[18:15] <Pelo> Areckx, agreed but it's too complicated for what I am doing, I need something that will be a little more like a layout oriented text app
[18:15] <kkfoss> ej
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[18:15] <L3top> !info libva-driver-i965 lucid
[18:15] <ubottu> Package libva-driver-i965 does not exist in lucid
[18:15] <Froodle> xangua, Ctrl-Q has no response to the program.  I don't know why.
[18:15] <L3top> hmm.
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[18:16] <Areckx> Do I need to add a source L3top ?
[18:16] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, ok so I did that twice remove nvidia-current + reinstall each time on reboot only the intel vga screen would show anything, and it said running in low graphics mode. need me to pastebin logs?
[18:16] <kkfoss> hello, can some one tell me why is my adhock wifi connection behaving so veard?  i have another machine which can connect my wifi connection but internet is not shred
[18:16] <linus-torvalds> Can someone help me find a BeOS theme?
[18:16] <L3top> would appear that is in OUR repo... sorry... thought it was generally available. It will be your decision to do so Areckx. You will likely need to add the xorg edgers ppa
[18:17] <Areckx> Pelo::  granted I am annoyed with programs like gimpo and photoshop / paintshop pro etc, but it does everything you need if you tool around with it
[18:17] <Areckx> L3top::  oh I need to update xorg?
[18:18] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1153114/
[18:18] <L3top> InferiorHuman: you have a hybrid gpu? lspci | grep VGA     returns two lines? If so, you will need bumblebee. This is not a bug in the OS, nvidia provides 0 support for hybrid gpus on linux.
[18:18] <kkfoss> let me explain my problem in more details.  I have a thinkpad on which I have a mobile broadband connection active.  I made an adhoc connection and other laptops can see it well and also manage to connect to that wifi connection, but my internet from my thinkpad is not getting shared.
[18:18] <InferiorHuman> L3top, its not a hybrid
[18:18] <L3top> Areckx: no... you need the intel GPU accelleration package.
[18:19] <L3top> InferiorHuman: You have two gpus? One intel and one nvidia? And you cannot disable the onboard in bios?
[18:19] <Areckx> L3top::  I'm just really confused because it wasn't doing this until recently, and I had everything updated before I did a fresh install... I couldn't move my etc and home folders over without screwing up my system, so I can't use all my old backup >_<
[18:19] <InferiorHuman> I see my current problem LOL my xorg.conf is jacked up
[18:19] <Areckx> when I moverd over my /etc and /home it thought I was running 11.04... because I tried fixing this problem by upgrading to a newer distro but it made things worse lol
[18:20] <Areckx> L3top::  well how do I do that?
[18:20] <L3top> Areckx: what does top reveal about what is chewing up your cpu/memory?
[18:21] <solifugus> how can I know what version of ubuntu I am using?
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> solifugus  lsb-release -sd
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> solifugus  lsb_release -sd
[18:21] <L3top> lsb_release -sd
[18:22] <L3top> lol
[18:22] <Areckx> L3top::  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1153123/
[18:22] <Froodle> Just came back to say: fuck Canonical.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundMenu#Music_player_section  "A compliant player should also keep playing if you close its window while it is playing."
[18:22] <Froodle> It's a feature!  Fucking bullshit.
[18:23] <InferiorHuman> L3top, i want to use the nvidia card + intel integrated at one time and its not working anymore
[18:23] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, fixed my xorg.conf and I am in the greeter screen but my login keeps going back to greeter, whats the greeter log file again ??
[18:24] <Pici> Froodle: If you think its a problem, file a bug. Ranting and cursing here is not going to help.
[18:24] <Pici> !language | Froodle
[18:24] <ubottu> Froodle: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[18:25] <savio> Pici, control your feeling
[18:25] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, not sure if you are here anymore but, here is my greeter log
[18:25] <InferiorHuman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1153132/
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[18:26] <InferiorHuman> keeps putting me back on greeter screen and selecting other sessions isnt helping like it did yesterday
[18:26] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: sorry... cooking
[18:26] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, no problem im learning to debug!
[18:27] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: I'll take a look... but I think you're making progress :)
[18:27] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, yea my last three lines and that log are where I am at now.
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[18:28] <Pacifique> Hello
[18:28] <InferiorHuman> Hello Pacifique
[18:28] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: This is what gets my attention: "MESSAGE: Couldn't find primary device"
[18:28] <Pacifique> Hello InferiorHuman.
[18:28] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: check the Xorg.0.log for this boot
[18:28] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, the video card is seen by the computer though.
[18:29] <Pacifique> InferiorHuman, I have a problem are you ready to help?
[18:29] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: that's correct... but something looks to be failing to see
[18:29]  * TJ- goes back to *not* burning the chips
[18:29] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1153142/
[18:30] <InferiorHuman> Pacifique, post your problem to the channel for everyone to see and if I can't help someone might be able to.
[18:30] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, again module does not exist. what can I do
[18:30] <Areckx> L3top::  It might be related to compiz, since I have enhanced desktop zoom active, and it slows down even more when I'm zoomed in, but I need this feature, since I am unable to see the screen without  it unless I sit right next to my laptop which is very uncomfortable on my bed, and I use my desk for books and notebooks
[18:31] <TaJMoX> Help: Re-sizing windows is a pain because there's only like 1 pixel threshold to grab the side of a window. So it's hard to click when I get the window resize mouse pointer. Any way to make this window border threshold larger? Ubuntu 12.04
[18:31] <Pacifique> I am trying to launch vlc but it doesn't show anything,could someone help?
[18:32] <Areckx> Pacifique::  sudo aptitude install vlc
[18:32] <designbybeck> Areckx:  I don't think the full aptitude is installed by default.... so it would be sudo apt-get install vlc
[18:32] <Areckx> TJ-::  you could try right clicking to resize
[18:32] <designbybeck> am I right in stating that?
[18:33] <Areckx> I usde aptitude all the time for install
[18:33] <Areckx> it is the same as sudo apt-get -f install
[18:33] <designbybeck> but did you install it
[18:33] <Areckx> no it was on by default
[18:33] <k1l> doesnt aptitude still have the multiarch problems?
[18:33] <k1l> Areckx: no, its not included by default anymore
[18:33] <Areckx> I really don't know what the differences are.,..
[18:34] <Areckx> all I know is that aptitude usually installs things better
[18:34] <OerHeks> see factoid !aptitude
[18:34] <OerHeks> Areckx, if you run 32 bit, no problem
[18:34] <Areckx> !aptitude | Everyone
[18:34] <ubottu> Everyone: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.
[18:35] <designbybeck> !apt-get
[18:35] <ubottu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)
[18:35] <PrivateReese> hey guys i got a problem installing ubuntu server via usb stick , there is always something going wrong or missing .....
[18:35] <PrivateReese> what should i do?
[18:35] <Areckx> yeah I run 10.04
[18:36] <Sidewinder1> 10.04 here, as well. :)
[18:36] <savio> is tifm_sd works for insipron laptop
[18:36] <OerHeks> PrivateReese, check your iso with md5sum, or your server with memtest86
[18:36] <k1l> Areckx: 10.04 doesnt have multiarch. so this is totaly another usecase
[18:36] <Areckx> PrivateReese::  there are different iso for 32-bit/64bit and i3686 and amd64
[18:36] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, i just don't understand why it has no nvidia module when it says nvidia-current is building one for the current kernel 3.2.0-29-generic
[18:36] <PrivateReese> i have a amd64 system at home and i cant find a md5sum somewhere on the official ubuntu side
[18:37] <DJSalkin> i wanna build an arcade machine using my old ibook. it should run emulators (nes,snes,genesis). which os should i choose?
[18:37] <DJSalkin> its an ibook g3
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[18:37] <InferiorHuman> DJSalkin, maybe damn smal linux ? or build off of ubuntu server
[18:37] <k1l> DJSalkin: you are asking in an ubuntu channel. so guess the answer :X
[18:37] <PrivateReese> tried downloading it more then once and also used universal usb installer and lili  but nothing worked
[18:37] <OerHeks> !hashes
[18:37] <ubottu> See http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/12.04/MD5SUMS for the md5sums of the latest Ubuntu release
[18:37] <DJSalkin> hehe
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> DJSalkin  this is the ubuntu channel, what answer would you expect?
[18:37] <DJSalkin> dsl is a nice choise but does it run emulators?
[18:37] <Areckx> dj_ryan::  that's an awesome arcade machine idea! l;ol probably want a windows OS for emulators though, but I thin klinux has some good emulators.... but windows ones are always more up to date it seems
[18:38] <InferiorHuman> DJSalkin, sure why not?
[18:38] <k1l> !ot > DJSalkin
[18:38] <ubottu> DJSalkin, please see my private message
[18:38] <Areckx> errr DJSalkin
[18:38] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: Have you done "sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current"
[18:38] <Areckx> And also, emulators are completely legal it's roms that are gray area
[18:38] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, no I had done apt-get remove and apt-get install though is this the same essentially ?
[18:38] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: ought to be, yes
[18:39] <DJSalkin> goto ubuntu-offtopic channel for more talking about the arcade
[18:39] <acidrain> omg. im having this issue again.  something on my main hdd is filling up the entire drive.  i have been using bleachbit to clean it up. last night i had 60gig free space, now i have 12kb free space. what is causing this?
[18:39] <Pacifique> Areckx, I am using back track , I've done sudo aptitude install vlc but nothing changes when i click on vlc
[18:39] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: Check the directory where they live for the nvidia driver: "ls -ltr /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/"
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> Pacifique  type /join backtrack/linux
[18:39] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, well maybe its a bug in the kernel? is this a new kernel I think it is..? like I said the nvidia-current shows depmod building a dkms kernel module or something like that. for this kernel so I am lost. modprobe confirms no module
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> Pacifique  type /join backtrack-linux
[18:39] <Hallo> dfsa
[18:40] <acidrain> is there any way at all how i can go about determining what application is causing this?
[18:40] <k1l> acidrain: use baobab to take a look at what is causing this
[18:41] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, nothing nvidia in there
[18:41] <k1l> acidrain: i mean with baobab you can see which files are filling up the most space
[18:41] <Pici> ]/22
[18:42] <acidrain> k1l, ill check it out and get back to you on this
[18:43] <acidrain> k1l, this could take days to go througha ll of these directories
[18:43] <acidrain> what i dont understand is that in some folders it will say the top most directory is 19megs, and in a directory in that one it will say 30megs or something
[18:43] <acidrain> :/
[18:43] <k1l> acidrain: just sort them, the biggest first.
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> acidrain  in a terminal, type this    find / -size +1G -exec ls -l {} \; 2>/dev/null
[18:45] <PatrikOlsson> Hey, how can I uninstall an installed package? I have isntalled a driver for a printer, but it was broken.
[18:45] <k1l> acidrain: you mentioned you lost 60gb in a night. so there must be some real big files. they should be easy to find in baobab
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> PatrikOlsson  try sudo apt-get purge
[18:46] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, do I need to manually install driver ?
[18:46] <acidrain> MonkeyDust, how do i make that command output to file :/
[18:46] <PatrikOlsson> MonkeyDust: "The package xxx needs to be reinstaleld, but I can't find an archive for it"
[18:46] <InferiorHuman> acidrain, put > /path/file at the end
[18:46] <acidrain> oh wtf. nvm it did work :)
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> acidrain  find / -size +1G -exec ls -l {} \; 2>/dev/null | tee blahblah
[18:47] <PrivateReese> checksums alright
[18:47] <PrivateReese> hmm
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[18:48] <acidrain> MonkeyDust, hmmm. i find this weird, it only listed files in /media/Server
[18:49] <acidrain> wait
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> acidrain  try sudo
[18:49] <acidrain> but 1 file in my home folder
[18:49] <acidrain> its big! let me investigagte
[18:50] <acidrain> MonkeyDust, I found it!!! .xession-errors.old
[18:50] <acidrain> the 1 file itself is 58.1GIGs
[18:50] <k1l> oha
[18:50] <acidrain> but why would this happen?
[18:50] <k1l> take a look in it. smth is sending _alot_ of error msgs
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> acidrain  that's the power of terminal commands
[18:51] <InferiorHuman> haha terminal FTW.
[18:51] <Bryan-VM> The Expendables 2 was worth not sleeping for 24 hours. Just saying.
[18:51] <Pacifique> Does someone know any other multimedia software that can play well as vlc?
[18:51] <acidrain> k1l, it seems to be a little bit of everything
[18:51] <InferiorHuman> Pacifique, vlc is the best.
[18:52] <TheLordOfTime> !best | InferiorHuman
[18:52] <ubottu> InferiorHuman: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[18:52] <acidrain> k1l, is there a way i can stop .xsession-errros from even logging.
[18:52] <acidrain> none of these errors are effecting me at all
[18:52] <InferiorHuman> TheLordOfTime, yes i know it was an opinion :-)
[18:52] <k1l> Pacifique: ask the backtrack guys, what they did to vlc
[18:52] <savio> my micro sd card built-in my laptop doesn't detect
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> Pacifique  type /join #backtrack-linux
[18:52] <savio> what should i do?
[18:52] <k1l> acidrain: you should stop the errors instead of just making them not appear
[18:54] <acidrain> k1l, it is an ungodly amount of errors :S
[18:54] <Pacifique> MonkeyDust, Look at this from backtrack channel              #backtrack-linux :Cannot send to channel
[18:54] <k1l> acidrain: take a look at the end of the file, there should be the same error over and over again.
[18:55] <acidrain> k1l, most errors seem to be: Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "ubuntulooks";
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> Pacifique  guess you have to !register first
[18:55] <k1l> Pacifique: read the topic m(
[18:55] <acidrain> k1l, but like i said though, that is the most common error. but other than that 1 error that occured only 3 times at end, no other errors even look the same
[18:55] <Ristovski> Hello, is it safe to install gnome-session-fallback on ubuntu 12.04?
[18:56] <Ristovski> Ive heard it install alot pf dependencies and borks stuff
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> Ristovski  i use it
[18:56] <Ristovski> MonkeyDust: is there any chance of it borking stuff?
[18:56] <Ristovski> because Im not used to nor want to be used to unity
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> Ristovski  i'm happy with it, but define 'bork'?
[18:57] <Ristovski> MonkeyDust: braking stuff
[18:57] <k1l> acidrain: seems like you have a faulty theme there?
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> Ristovski  what kind of stuff?
[18:57] <Ristovski> MonkeyDust: i use that instead of saying "can it fuck something up?"
[18:57] <Ristovski> MonkeyDust: dunno
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> Ristovski  use it, works fine
[18:58] <Ristovski> ok
[18:58] <k1l> acidrain: which ubuntu do you use?
[18:58] <Ristovski> MonkeyDust: so apt-get install gnome-session-fallback?
[18:59] <Ristovski> MonkeyDust: sorry, in mint 12 it was already pre installed, but the audio was fucked up in mint so I installed ubuntu
[18:59] <acidrain> k1l, i use 10.04
[18:59] <k1l> acidrain: try: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> Ristovski  don't use that word here, please
[19:01] <acidrain> k1l, that package was not found. i tried to install gtk2-engines, but it said it wasnt a good idea
[19:01] <Ristovski> MonkeyDust: okay
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> !notunity > Ristovski
[19:02] <ubottu> Ristovski, please see my private message
[19:02] <Ristovski> okay
[19:03] <k1l> acidrain: install the gtk2-engines-pixbuf package
[19:04] <Ristovski> brb
[19:04] <Code_Factory> Hello I need some help installing ubuntu on a 1 TB hard drive.
[19:05] <Code_Factory> I'v tried some research but couldn't get the answers I'm looking for
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[19:05] <Code_Factory> shall I configure my SATA as IDE / RAID / AHCI
[19:05] <k1l> ahci
[19:06] <Code_Factory> but in that case I think the installer doesn't see the disk!
[19:06] <acidrain> k1l, are you messin with me? that is no package either
[19:06] <Code_Factory> I dunno why
[19:06] <k1l> Code_Factory: why that?
[19:06] <acidrain> what repo are you getting these from?
[19:06] <Pacifique> MonkeyDust, I have registed and it is still the same question
[19:06] <Code_Factory> K1l: I dunno,
[19:07] <TheLordOfTime> !info gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[19:07] <ubottu> gtk2-engines-pixbuf (source: gtk+2.0): pixbuf-based theme for GTK+ 2.x. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.24.10-0ubuntu6 (precise), package size 124 kB, installed size 1370 kB
[19:07] <TheLordOfTime> acidrain:  ^
[19:07] <TheLordOfTime> acidrain:  you need to make sure that universe is added.
[19:07] <savio> hello gays
[19:07] <TheLordOfTime> or at least enabled.
[19:07] <k1l> acidrain: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=lucid&searchon=names&keywords=pixbuf
[19:07] <k1l> Pacifique: you need to log in after the register
[19:07] <savio> can someone help me with micro sd card issue in ubuntu
[19:08] <TheLordOfTime> acidrain:  which ubuntu are you using, btw?
[19:08] <Pacifique> k1l, How
[19:08] <k1l> acidrain: and im still thinking you are using a faulty theme there
[19:08] <k1l> Pacifique: that is a #freenode issue. not an ubuntu issue
[19:10] <Code_Factory> k1l: where it says "has at least 4.5GB available drive space" is not checked
[19:10] <Code_Factory> how is that possible?
[19:10] <acidrain> k1l,  but i love my theme :(
[19:10] <acidrain> i refuse to switch
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> Code_Factory: are you looking to dual boot?
[19:11] <Code_Factory> no
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> Code_Factory: is the drive partitioned?
[19:11] <Code_Factory> ActionParsnip: no
[19:12] <Code_Factory> ActionParsnip: yes, I just had it installed but it kept crashing mainly I/O issues related to the HD
[19:12] <Code_Factory> ActionParsnip: which came from the wrong configuration as far as I read online
[19:12] <Code_Factory> so I decided to reinstall it again
[19:12] <k1l> Code_Factory: so the harddrive is broken?
[19:12] <Code_Factory> k1l: doesn't seem to be
[19:13] <Code_Factory> I ran a couple of diagnostic tools using windows and ubuntu
[19:13] <k1l> lots of i/o errors seem to me like its broken
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[19:13] <Code_Factory> I/O errors could also rise from misconfigured bios with OS (as far as I understand)
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Code_Factory: you may want to boot to the live desktop and delete all partitions, then update ubiquity and gparted and kick off the install (assuming you can get web access in the live CD desktop)
[19:14] <Code_Factory> ActionParsnip: will a flash drive do?
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[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Code_Factory: same difference, so yes
[19:15] <Code_Factory> ok I'm on it.. thank you ActionParsnip
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Code_Factory: you may want to test the drive using the ultimate boot cd, using the manufacturers tool
[19:16] <Code_Factory> another question would be the best partitioning ? / 20G /swap 4G /boot 1G /tmp 10G /var 50G /srv 10G /home (the rest) ?
[19:16] <Code_Factory> ActionParsnip: its a WD on an AsusTek MB its almost 3 years or more old
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Code_Factory: I use 10Gb for /, 1 x RAM amount for swap and the rest for /home     don't really need the others on different partitions imho
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Code_Factory: i assum more than 2Gb system RAM
[19:18] <Code_Factory> ActionParsnip: 4 GB RAM, and I need to setup a lot of test website on srv and tmp just gets full through testing and var gets full with logs, so I'd hate for the system to lock me out that's why I keep them seperate
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Code_Factory: my install is 3.8Gb here, depends on what you intend to install
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Code_Factory: ahhh, cool
[19:19] <InferiorHuman> can anyone tell me why nvidia-current isn't building a module for my kernel even though it says it is? my xorg.0.log says no module nvidia. so does modprobe
[19:19] <Code_Factory> ActionParsnip: gparted doesn't see the HD, I think I will just need to revert to compatible IDE
[19:19] <trism> InferiorHuman: pastebin dkms status and uname -a
[19:20] <zetheroo> I have eth4 ... what happened to eth1 ?
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> InferiorHuman: try:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install dkms
[19:20] <Code_Factory> Ok lastly, when both my stations where setup, I had a horrible time to share folders and didn't get to solution
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: you can make udev rules to make it use a set name
[19:20] <Code_Factory> I could do it with windows but not 2 ubuntu's its my first time
[19:20] <InferiorHuman> trism, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1153220/
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: http://wishmesh.com/2009/09/ubuntu-server-rename-eth1-to-eth0/
[19:21] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: I am trying to run Ubuntu Server 12.04 in Vbox ... but the networking is driving me insane :P
[19:21] <InferiorHuman> ActionParsnip, after reinstall dkms do I need to reinsstall nvidia-current?
[19:21] <trism> InferiorHuman: sudo modprobe nvidia_current; ?
[19:22] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: was working fine yesterday, but today I cannot get an IP address
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> InferiorHuman: if it's already installed, then no
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[19:22] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: have you checked the cable? is there a connected light on each side?
[19:23] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: ? this is in Vbox ... in a VM
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: have you asked in
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: #vbox
[19:23] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: yes ... but the same vbox settings that worked yesterday are not working today
[19:24] <InferiorHuman> ActionParsnip, trism here is my issue, I had been using my integrated intell vga port to run a monitor + nvidia gt 430 to run hdmi tv. I updated or something happened now I can not get in to x Windows if the intel is enabled in bios (only picture on intel + greeter keeps going back to its self after enter pw) If I disable intel in bios I can get in to X windows on nvidia side.
[19:24] <InferiorHuman> trism, I tried that command it gave no error but did not help either
[19:25] <trism> InferiorHuman: I have no idea about the hybrid stuff sorry, but the nvidia module would appear to be there
[19:25] <InferiorHuman> trism, it is not a hybrid
[19:25] <InferiorHuman> trism, its intel integrated + nvidia pci-e card.
[19:26] <trism> InferiorHuman: any error in /var/log/kern.log after you modprobed nvidia_current?
[19:26] <ala> no
[19:27] <ala> hm\
[19:27] <InferiorHuman> trism, this is all I see about nvidia
[19:27] <InferiorHuman> Aug 17 14:15:08 Media kernel: [    4.817793] NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  295.49  Mon Apr 30 23:46:33 PDT 2012
[19:27] <cali_> !s german
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[19:27] <InferiorHuman> trism, not sure why it has a wrong date...
[19:28] <trism> InferiorHuman: any reason why you have both nvidia-current and nvidia-current-updates installed? I would think you would only need one or the other (I usually just use nvidia-current)
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> InferiorHuman: have you tried disabling the intel?
[19:28] <InferiorHuman> ActionParsnip, when I disable the intel the nvidia side works perfectly. yes I have tried ;-(
[19:29] <InferiorHuman> trism, ok i removed nvidia-current-updates should i try to reboot or restart lightdm or?
[19:30] <trism> InferiorHuman: reboot is usually the way to go after reinstalling nvidia
[19:30] <InferiorHuman> ActionParsnip, trism someone named TJ- was here helpng me before and said it might be an ubuntu bug.
[19:31] <InferiorHuman> maybe its a kernel bug how do you get grub to show up + change kernel to last one
[19:31] <sporty> I am having a problem with my wired internet ETH0 connection.  Toshiba Satellite laptop, it worked a couple of months ago, but I tried to use it yesterday and no connection with no lights at connector - anyone have an idea what could be wrong?
[19:31] <InferiorHuman> sporty, does your /etc/network/interfaces have auto eth0 inet dhcp
[19:31] <trism> InferiorHuman: you only have nvidia-current built for your current kernel though, so you will still have an issue if you select any older one
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> InferiorHuman, I just came on if you have single install you would have to tap the shift key on powering on to show grub
[19:33] <InferiorHuman> trism, I had it built for the last kernel too or does it go away?
[19:33] <sporty> InferiorHuman, how do I check for that?
[19:33] <InferiorHuman> I am getting this now on login through SSH. also same issue only picture on intel side + cant log in
[19:33] <trism> InferiorHuman: it was built for both with nvidia-current-updates in dkms status, but only the latest for nvidia-current
[19:33] <InferiorHuman> /usr/bin/xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/x/.Xauthority
[19:34] <trism> InferiorHuman: is the file owned by root?
[19:34] <InferiorHuman> sporty, can you pastebin /etc/network/interfaces ?
[19:34] <InferiorHuman> trism, yes it is
[19:35] <trism> InferiorHuman: delete the .Xauthority file then, it will be regenerated when you login
[19:35] <InferiorHuman> trism, is sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart the best way to restart x?
[19:35] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: how you getting on?
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[19:35] <trism> InferiorHuman: sudo restart lightdm
[19:36] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, ok a bit frustrated
[19:37] <InferiorHuman> trism, ok so that got me in to X but only on the intel monitor. and it gave some CRC310 error about couldnt set the resolution on the other monitor (this is a first)
[19:37] <sporty> InferiorHuman - bash: ifconfig/etc/network/interfaces: No such file or directory             Is what I get.  Am I searching correctly?
[19:37] <WeThePeople>  i have created a launchpad for Tor.. how do i replace the launchpad pic with the one i want?
[19:37] <InferiorHuman> sporty, no, cat /etc/network/interfaces
[19:38] <trism> InferiorHuman: I'm not really sure, I have never run both before, I just have everything plugged into my nvidia card
[19:38] <InferiorHuman> trism I don't think I can because the vga side is too close to the hdmi to fit.
[19:38] <InferiorHuman> trism, let me just try the dvi side w/ a vga adapter then.
[19:38] <InferiorHuman> idk if this card can run dual monitors
[19:38] <sporty> InferiorHuman - Here's what I got:  auto lo
[19:38] <sporty> iface lo inet loopback
[19:39] <`7-Up> Hi, need some help with pinguy 12.04 ..... can anyone assist?
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[19:40] <DJones> `7-Up: You'll need to find the pinguy channel/support, its not an official version of Ubuntu thats supported here
[19:40] <`7-Up> I understand thanks
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[19:40] <`7-Up> was just hoping someone could help
[19:40] <`7-Up> since that channel seems dead at the moment
[19:40] <greg__> Hi guys I have a hundred of question for you !
[19:41] <greg__> ANy ideas about partitionning a SSD?
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[19:43] <InferiorHuman> sporty,
[19:43] <InferiorHuman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1153257/
[19:43] <InferiorHuman>  check out that and add the lines with eth0 in them. not the wlan0 lines.
[19:43] <InferiorHuman> sporty, then do sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[19:44] <bkerensa> !juju
[19:44] <InferiorHuman> trism, what do I need to do to use hdmi + dvi on my card @ same time? I plugged in to the dvi on the gt430 but only black screen on monitor.
[19:44] <InferiorHuman> trism, my current xorg.conf was custom made to setup for the intel + the nvidia (it used to work) do I just delete that and run nvidia-xconfig and disable intel in bios ?
[19:45] <trism> InferiorHuman: I don't actually need to disable the intel, I just configure the monitors in nvidia-settings
[19:46] <InferiorHuman> trism, im not going to be able to see nvidia-settings though unless I disable the intel.
[19:46] <trism> InferiorHuman: might move your old xorg.conf out of the way and run nvidia-xconfig to see if you can get a desktop
[19:48] <InferiorHuman> trism, says command not found
[19:48] <trism> InferiorHuman: it is in nvidia-current but removing nvidia-current-updates might have messed up the link, perhaps reinstall nvidia-current again?
[19:50] <trism> InferiorHuman: it is actually here: /usr/lib/nvidia-current/bin/nvidia-xconfig
[19:51] <InferiorHuman> trism, it works if I CD to the dir and run it, tried reinstalling that didn't help
[19:51] <InferiorHuman> trism, I can make a link to /usr/bin though i bet.
[19:53] <TJ-> All these issues you've had InferiorHuman, seem to stem from when that system ran out of disk space
[19:55] <trism> InferiorHuman: that has me a bit concerned that some of the more important links might not be set up
[19:56] <InferiorHuman> trism, TJ- ok so I did what trism said hooked up both monitors to the one card and it works
[19:56] <InferiorHuman> so im just gonna use it that way.
[19:56] <TJ-> That's the best way too
[19:58] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, well I never did it that way before cause I only had a vga cable and the vga thing was too big to be next to the hdmi but I gota dvi to vga adapter when I got my new GTX 670 so I never tried it till now.
[19:58] <zetheroo> is it possible to import an ova image into KVM?
[19:59] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: So next you'll be hooking up a 3rd screen :p
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[20:00] <Ragazza> esto q es
[20:01] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, no this isn't working either. it gets in to X but everything is huge on both monitors and nvidia-settings says im not using nvidia driver. apt is telling me nvidia-current is installed. but I have no nvidia module or nvidia_current module.
[20:02] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: I think that system is seriously messed up!
[20:03] <InferiorHuman> from being full?
[20:03] <jeans> how do i convert .avi to .mp4 format
[20:03] <c0deMaster> how to write to Jounaled HFS?
[20:04] <codezp> jeans you can use Avidemux
[20:04] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, ok I will just reinstall
[20:04] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: I don't know the cause but this entire incident suggests things are not right
[20:05] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, how can I set my system up to not use more than 90% on / in the future.
[20:07] <sporty> InferiorHuman - how do I add those lines?
[20:07] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: I usually separate out / /var/ and /home/ to 3 separate LVM volumes so that /var/ and /home/ - the paths that typically grow - can't effect / where all the importan stuff is
[20:07] <InferiorHuman> sporty, open it in gedit or mousepad. guessing you never used nano
[20:08] <hay> when I edit a guest in virsh with 'edit guestname' and save it (I get a message Domain name XML configuration edited.), when I reopen it, the changes seem to be ignored... what am I doing wrong? thx
[20:08] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, so in the partitioner make 3 seperate LVM volumes for / /var/ and /home/ got it.
[20:08] <sporty> InferiorHuman - I'm fairly new at working in the terminal.
[20:09] <goddard> so how can I install some new ubuntu themes
[20:09] <InferiorHuman> sporty, type sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[20:10] <sileni> guys
[20:10] <sileni> I make changes to /etc/hosts
[20:10] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: I'd recommend 10GB for /    12-15GB /var/ and the rest for /home/ (unless you want to reserve some for other purposes)
[20:10] <k1l> InferiorHuman: dont advise to use sudo with gui programs :/
[20:10] <sileni> it works until reboot, then the changes are not there
[20:10] <sileni> i have typed sync to write to disk
[20:10] <sileni> just to make sure
[20:10] <sileni> any other ideas?
[20:11] <codezp> sileni how are you editing?
[20:11] <raven> how to restart a dvb-card via cmd?
[20:11] <InferiorHuman> sorry gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces then
[20:11] <codezp> goddard which version of ubuntu?
[20:11] <sileni> codezp: vi
[20:11] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, right now my var uses 1.1GB :-)
[20:11] <codezp> sileni sudo vi?
[20:12] <sileni> codezp: yes
[20:12] <tewecske> i can't boot from my ssd with gpt partition, it worked for several months but now when booting it only shows a blank screen with blinking cursor and nothing in the logs either, i can boot from a live cd and mount the ssd, but Boot-Repair can't fix it, here is the Boot-Info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1153290/ can someone help?
[20:12] <codezp> sileni so when you reboot entries are gone?
[20:13] <sileni> codezp: yes
[20:13] <codezp> sileni try searching for hosts.ac
[20:14] <codezp> sileni see if that file exists in /etc folder
[20:14] <sporty> InferiorHuman - tried and this is what I got:  sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[20:14] <sporty> auto lo
[20:14] <sporty> iface lo inet loopback
[20:14] <sporty> randy@randy-laptop:~$ auto lo
[20:14] <sporty> No command 'auto' found, did you mean:
[20:14] <FloodBot1> sporty: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:14] <sporty>  Command 'uuto' from package 'uucp' (universe)
[20:14] <sporty> auto: command not found
[20:14] <PatrikOlsson> Hello, I need help purging a driver. I'm receiving the error message: "The package xxx needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find the archive for it."
[20:14] <sporty> FloodBot1 - Sorry
[20:15] <InferiorHuman> sporty, you need to add those lines I gave you earlier
[20:15] <k1l> PatrikOlsson: just type: " sudo apt-get remove xxx"
[20:15] <InferiorHuman> sporty, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1153257/ see the lines auto eth0 and the line under it add those under the lo stuff
[20:16] <InferiorHuman> sporty, then you can use sudo ifconfig eth0 up to turn on your ethernet
[20:16] <PatrikOlsson> k1l: Receiving the same error.
[20:16] <xuserr> Can I protect myself against network attacks (flood) using a firewall (firesarter)?
[20:16] <k1l> PatrikOlsson: which ubuntu are you using and can you put the whole command and message into a pastebin?
[20:16] <xuserr> please help
[20:17] <BrokeN_> Hello
[20:17] <BrokeN_> anyone around?
[20:17] <k1l> !ask | BrokeN_
[20:17] <ubottu> BrokeN_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[20:17] <goddard> codezp: i use the newest LTS
[20:18] <BrokeN_>  I installed Ubunto alongside of my Windows7 then I boot in to ubuntu and start to update it now it gives me this thing I chose the /dev/sda and hit FORWARD then it gives me this: http://i45.tinypic.com/6zy439.jpg  .... and when I just hit Forward with out touching nothing. it takes me back to http://i49.tinypic.com/1qn7k6.jpg this again
[20:18] <codezp> goddard install gnome tweak tool from software center
[20:18] <xuserr> Can I protect myself against network attacks (flood) using a firewall (firesarter)?
[20:19] <goddard> codezp: do any gnome shell extensions work with ubuntu?
[20:20] <FrumiousTrue> Hi, has anyone tried running quantal 12.10 under virtualbox recently? It was running fine a few days ago and is broken today after I updated. The likely change is that Unity2d was dropped. The new unity isn't painting the windows correctly until you move the mouse over buttons, and compbiz keeps crashing. Has anyone seen anything like this? I did (after a struggle) manage to get the virtualbox guest additions re-installed, but that di
[20:20] <codezp> goddard - http://www.noobslab.com/2012/04/install-gnome-shell-34-and-extensions.html
[20:21] <guntbert> !quantal | FrumiousTrue
[20:21] <ubottu> FrumiousTrue: Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) will be the 17th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+1
[20:21] <BrokeN_> anyone help me?
[20:21] <goddard> codezp: i use Unity
[20:21] <Shamisen> hi
[20:21] <Shamisen> is this the biggest channel on IRC
[20:22] <codezp> BrokeN_ seems that its detecting grub, have you tried checking Continue without installing Grub?
[20:22] <PatrikOlsson> k1l Ubuntu 12.01? http://pastebin.com/AN3uXsKE
[20:22] <k1l_> !ot | Shamisen
[20:22] <ubottu> Shamisen: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[20:22] <codezp> goddard you should be able to install themes just fine - http://www.noobslab.com/2011/11/themes-collection-for-ubuntu-1110-unity.html
[20:23] <BrokeN_> codezp no I did not
[20:23] <guntbert> Shamisen: that doesn't really matter, Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:23] <BrokeN_> shall i?
[20:24] <codezp> BrokeN_ I don't see why if the old disk is not even loaded, or you can remove sda5? what is on sda5?
[20:25] <BrokeN_> Its the partition where ubuntu installed
[20:26] <BrokeN_> I have ubuntu installed alonside the Windows7
[20:26] <BrokeN_> its shrink the C: and created a new partition for ubuntu I guess. It let me drag the partition size while installing
[20:28] <k1l_> PatrikOlsson: try "sudo dpkg --purge --force-all mfc4800lpr"
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[20:30] <Cagelin> hi guys. I'm trying to install libgearman-dev because it's a dependency for the gearman perl package, but it tries to automatically install a mysql server too while I already have one. Does anyone know how to install this library without it installing mysql libraries? (I'm on ubuntu x64, using apt-get)
[20:30] <PatrikOlsson> k1l: "Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal."
[20:30] <PatrikOlsson> And after Errors were encountered while processing: mfc4800lpr
[20:30] <PatrikOlsson> k1l: Have tried reinstall, but it only makes my ubuntu software manager to crash.
[20:31] <Cagelin> ..so basically, what I'm asking is how to use apt-get install and let it know I want it to skip a dependency package.
[20:31] <codezp> BrokeN_ try install without grub
[20:31] <k1l_> PatrikOlsson: try this solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1065957.html
[20:32] <sporty> InferiorHuman - all I get is "no command auto found"
[20:32] <BrokeN_> codezp; Now it is continued and done with updating. Asking me restart. Restarting it...
[20:33] <InferiorHuman> sporty, can you pastebin your /etc/network/interface ??
[20:33] <codezp> BrokeN_ should be ok I think it was just detecting grub on the drive
[20:33] <InferiorHuman> sporty, can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces ??
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[20:36] <BrokeN_> Yeah it seems to be okay now.. booted fine.
[20:36] <sporty> InferiorHuman - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1153337/
[20:37] <PatrikOlsson> k1l: The same error.
[20:37] <InferiorHuman> sporty you are missing the point of what I am saying
[20:38] <InferiorHuman> sporty, do this.  sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces
[20:38] <k1l_> PatrikOlsson: then i have no solution
[20:38] <guntbert> sporty: 1) install pastebinit   2) type cat /etc/network/interfaces|patebinit
[20:38] <PatrikOlsson> k1l_ Ok, well, thanks for your help
[20:39] <guntbert> sporty: do what InferiorHuman said
[20:39] <InferiorHuman> guntbert, ive told him that i've been trying to get him to add a couple lines to /etc/network/interfaces forever it is missing his eth0 stuff :-(
[20:39] <guntbert> InferiorHuman: :)
[20:40] <sporty> InferiorHuman - I apparently need to learn a lot more - I DO appreciate your help
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> PatrikOlsson  dirty work-around: use a live-cd, go to our harddrive, search mfc4800lpr on it and delete, then go back to your normal ubuntu and perform sudo apt-get autoremove
[20:40] <Jared_> Hey guys, I just installed a bunch of updates to Ubuntu 12.04 today, and when I rebooted I get a blank screen after the Ubuntu loading logo. It hangs and doesn't respond except for ctrl+alt+delete reboots. I did the repair packages thing, tried doing "nomodeset", and removing the xorg.conf, none of which made any difference. When I try to do Xfailsafe, it says no screens available, and quits.
[20:41] <sporty> InferiorHuman - I did sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces
[20:41] <TJ-> sporty: give us the pastebin link it printed at your terminal
[20:41] <sporty> Here it is:  http://pastebin.com/5Qjnv60H
[20:42] <TJ-> sporty:  so you understand. "pastebinit" accepts text passed to it and automatically posts them to the pastebin
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> PatrikOlsson  *your harddrive
[20:42] <sporty> TJ - no but I'm trying to learn
[20:42] <TJ-> sporty: I missed the description of your original problem. Would you mind restating it for us please?
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[20:43] <sporty> Wired LAN connection not working - although it was a few months ago.
[20:43] <sporty> I have no problem with wireless connection.
[20:43] <TJ-> sporty: Thanks. Are you using Ubuntu 12.04 or an earlier release?
[20:44] <codezp> sporty does anything happen when you plug cable in - out?
[20:44] <trism> sporty: there is a typo on the last line, dchp instead of dhcp
[20:44] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, he is missing the eth0 lines to his /etc/network/interfaces
[20:44] <sporty> 10.04 LTS
[20:44] <i7c> can i also make a fedora install disk with the ubuntu startup disk creator?
[20:44] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: If using the GUI then NetworkManager should manage the interface automatically. If you add it to 'interfaces' NetworkManager will ignore it
[20:45] <TJ-> sporty: Thanks. So Lucid 10.04... you're using the Ubuntu Gnome 2 desktop environment then?
[20:45] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, ahh. I use WICD
[20:45] <sporty> Codezp - tried different cables -
[20:45] <sporty> TJ - I guess so
[20:46] <sporty> Wired connection is like it's been shut off.  I'm hoping the card isn't bad.
[20:46] <TJ-> sporty: OK... I'm trying to narrow down the correct solution for you.... When using the GUI we have a service called NetworkManager that looks after all the network connections automatically provided they are *not* listed in the '/etc/network/interfaces' file.
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> sporty  i havent followed, but i guess upgrade to 12.04 should solve a lot of your technical issues
[20:47] <TJ-> sporty: So, what I'd like you to do is to pastebin a copy of one of the core system log-files for me. do this: "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg"
[20:47] <InferiorHuman> sporty, does your card show up if you do lspci | grep Ethernet
[20:47] <guntbert> MonkeyDust: afraid, it would not - he has only wireless atm
[20:47] <TJ-> sporty: after you've done that please also do: "lspci -nn | pastebinit"
[20:49] <sporty> TJ - http://pastebin.com/ULEDJ9tq
[20:49] <TJ-> sporty: thank-you... I'll look at that whilst you pastebin the 2nd request
[20:49] <TJ-> sporty: do this: "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg"
[20:50] <sporty> TJ - http://pastebin.com/Jf2rZZuk
[20:51] <TJ-> sporty: thanks.
[20:52] <Jared_> Anyone have time to chase another problem?
[20:52] <guntbert> !ask | Jared_
[20:52] <ubottu> Jared_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[20:53] <Jared_> Hey guys, I just installed a bunch of updates to Ubuntu 12.04 today, and when I rebooted I get a blank screen after the Ubuntu loading logo. It hangs and doesn't respond except for ctrl+alt+delete reboots. I did the repair packages thing, tried doing "nomodeset", and removing the xorg.conf, none of which made any difference. When I try to do Xfailsafe, it says no screens available, and quits.
[20:53] <TJ-> sporty: OK, so far so good. I can see from 'dmesg' that the driver (sky2) is loaded for the network card (Marvel 88E8039 PCI-E)
[20:54] <TJ-> sporty: Can you do "pastebinit /var/log/syslog"
[20:55] <sporty> TJ - http://pastebin.com/eBVwyr1P
[20:55] <Hidn_shadows> Question, what's the command for the panel program? I have 10.04, and panel keeps failing to initiate, so I just figured I'd put a launcher on my desktop for it.
[20:56] <london_arazi> e
[20:56] <TJ-> haha! Pastebin put up a span-catcher CAPTCHA and didn't accept sporty 's pastebinit. When I visited the link it asked me for the CAPTCHA and thinks I'm the one pasting it... and has the content sporty provided!
[20:57] <sporty> TJ - not good
[20:57] <WeThePeople> The GNOME Panel 2.30.2
[20:58] <Hidn_shadows> wethepeople but that isn't the command to launch it, which is what I need.
[20:58] <WeThePeople> Help 2.30.0
[20:58] <k1l_> Hidn_shadows: gnome-panel ?
[20:58] <auronandace> !resetpanel | Hidn_shadows
[20:58] <ubottu> Hidn_shadows: To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[20:58] <TJ-> sporty: OK .... I see this "NetworkManager: <info>  (eth0): carrier is OFF"
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[20:58] <TJ-> sporty: That tells me you have a cabling problem
[20:58] <Hidn_shadows> BRB, gonna try gnome-panel
[20:59] <k1l_> Hidn_shadows: but i would suggest to reduce the error instead of making a bad workaround
[20:59] <sporty> TJ - I've tried three different cables.  Right not I don't have a cable inserted.  Do you want me to try it again with cable connected?
[21:00] <TJ-> sporty: So I recommend TWO things: 1) Edit with "gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces" and remove those lines you added recently about eth0, so all is left is the lines about "lo"., save the file.
[21:00] <TJ-> sporty: Then at a terminal do "tail -f /var/log/syslog" - that will show you all new log entries. With that running see if you get any log messages about "eth0" whilst playing with cables
[21:00] <Hidn_shadows> k1l, I'm going to do a reinstall, maybe even upgrading to the second-newest distro out. What is it now, 13.x?
[21:01] <k1l_> Hidn_shadows: you are not using ubuntu?
[21:01] <TJ-> sporty: However, before doing the "tail... " command you'll need to restart NetworkManager...
[21:01] <Hidn_shadows> k1l gah, I'm going to reinstall when I get a chance. That'll still be a while, and I have school
[21:02] <TJ-> sporty: ... "sudo service network-manager restart"
[21:05] <gotwig> can I use ubuntu usb creator for creating bootable fedora usb drive?
[21:06] <k1l_> !unetbootin | gotwig
[21:06] <ubottu> gotwig: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[21:07] <sporty> TJ - No Joy.  It exits in about .3 sec.
[21:07] <gotwig> k1l_: thx
[21:07] <jair_> Who
[21:07] <TJ-> sporty: "no joy" when you restart network-manager you mean?
[21:08] <gotwig> how can I start audio services, so I can use my audio system, when I started the session with xinit ?
[21:10] <sporty> TJ-I guess I'm in over my head on this one.
[21:10] <WeThePeople> hidn_shadows, gnome-panel
[21:10] <TJ-> sporty: I don't think so... you're just overwhelmed by so much new stuff... bear with it... we could have the answer inside 5 minutes
[21:10] <guntbert> sporty: keep in mind that in linux "no answer" often means "ok"
[21:11] <sporty> Laptop has a switch to turn the wireless on/off but it doesn't seem to have any effect on the Wired connection.
[21:11] <OerHeks> try sudo service networking restart
[21:11] <TJ-> sporty: If the "sudo service network-manager restart" command is what you mean exited in .3s ... that is perfectly correct... that command sends a message to get NetworkManager restarted in the background
[21:12] <TJ-> sporty: is the cable connected to the wired port right now?
[21:13] <sporty> TJ - cable connected now.  just ran ifconfig and eth0 is now missing.
[21:14] <TJ-> sporty: OK, do this pastebin for me: "sudo ethtool -s eth0 | pastebinit"
[21:14] <Hidn_shadows> ... what's the command to uninstall programs; apt-get isn't the right one (right?) I haven't done anything but low-tier stuff for too long
[21:15] <guntbert> Hidn_shadows: sudo apt-get remove ...
[21:15] <TJ-> Hidn_shadows: "sudo apt-get remove <package-name>"
[21:15] <nik_> what is this?
[21:15] <sporty> TJ it says I'm trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[21:15] <Hidn_shadows> guntbert, tj-, thanks...
[21:15] <TJ-> sporty: OK ... that may be because ifconfig somehow killed the port. Let's look at the logfile instead: "pastebinit /var/log/syslog"
[21:16] <guntbert> TJ-: ethtool is optional
[21:16] <TJ-> guntbert: see!? In knew you were good :)
[21:16] <sporty> TJ - http://pastebin.com/KZLCPKK1
[21:17] <TJ-> sporty: Let's install ethtool hehehe! "sudo apt-get install ethtool"
[21:17] <traubisoda> if I connect to my server with ssl, it gets frozen after ~5 minutes if i don't use it. any ideas why is that?
[21:18] <Soulstitchmmo> Hello, my Ubuntu won't load up normal into a gui, it loads up to what looks like terminal.
[21:18] <sporty> TJ - done
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[21:19] <TJ-> sporty: OK ... I think you may have missed my instructions to remove the "eth0" lines from "/etc/network/interfaces" ... can you tell me if you have removed those lines?
[21:19] <sporty> TJ - at least now Network-Manager states device not managed instead of disconnected.
[21:20] <sporty> TJ - how do I check that?
[21:20] <TJ-> sporty: Yes ... and if we remove those lines from "/etc/network/interfaces" and restart network-manager once again, it should spring to life
[21:20] <TJ-> sporty: "gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces" and then delete any lines about "eth0" then save it
[21:20] <traubisoda> if I connect to my server with ssl, it gets frozen after ~5 minutes if i don't use it. any ideas why is that?
[21:20] <TJ-> sporty: Tell me when you've verified thats been done
[21:21] <sporty> TJ - How do I remove those lines?
[21:21] <TJ-> sporty: If you run the command I showed you, you get an editor window pops up and you can just highlight the lines and press the delete key
[21:21] <Hidn_shadows> I uninstalled and reinstalled, perhaps this'll help; it's just a matter of time before I just reinstall the entire system. HDD's getting full, and this install is getting flakier than a stale croissant
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[21:21] <TJ-> sporty: And then do File > Save to save to disk
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[21:23] <silverarrow> is there a ubuntu dev channel?
[21:24] <TJ-> silverarrow: #ubuntu-devel
[21:24] <silverarrow> devil site
[21:24] <svennp> can anyone in here help me get multiple monitors working? :)
[21:24] <silverarrow> the place for me
[21:26] <TJ-> sporty: have you managed to remove those lines from the file now?
[21:28] <svennp> can anyone give me a helpful link or something to a guide to get multiple monitors working with gtx 560 ti ?
[21:28] <KatsumeBlisk> !ask | svennp
[21:28] <ubottu> svennp: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[21:28] <KatsumeBlisk> oops
[21:28] <KatsumeBlisk> !patience | svennp
[21:28] <ubottu> svennp: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[21:28] <KatsumeBlisk> Sorry svennp. Wrong command...
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[21:29] <svennp> sorry for posting it 2 times then
[21:29] <TJ-> svennp: If that's NVidia and you've got the nvidia proprietary drivers installed, you run "nvidia X server settings" and configure for Twinview for shared desktop over all monitors
[21:32] <svennp> thanks, got it working now :)
[21:32] <sporty> TJ - I can't seem to remove those lines.
[21:34] <TJ-> sporty: Are you starting the editor with "gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces" ? That "gksudo" is very important because it gives you root privileges, which you must have to be able to save that file back to disk
[21:35] <sporty> I think I just got it done.  I need to verify.
[21:35] <rean> hi guys I need a hand with something... I updated the system and this update removed all the ia32-libs packages and I need them to run skype
[21:35] <rean> I'm running the amd64
[21:35] <TJ-> sporty: well done :)
[21:36] <TJ-> rean: Which Ubuntu release? 12.04 ?
[21:36] <rean> yeap
[21:36] <linuxuz3r> PROBLEM: when i wakeup ubuntu after sleep the screen turns blue and i could not enter the password can someone help
[21:36] <sporty> TJ - how do I restart network-manager to see if I got it right:
[21:36] <TP4myBunghole> why cant you just reinstall ia32-libs rean?
[21:36] <linuxuz3r> please
[21:37] <TJ-> rean: I'm not sure about Skype, but in 11.10/12.04 Ubuntu uses the new Multi-libs so that amd64 and x86 libraries can co-exist. I *believe* that therefore the ia32 packages are removed and shouldn't be needed
[21:37] <the_dudez0r> how can I chec kwhat packages are installed on my system?
[21:37] <rean> I tried, but it depends on ia32-libs-multiarch and it seems isn't part of the repo anymore
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[21:37] <macciti> MySQL Problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2043979
[21:37] <Justm3> I have a 'device' in /media that shows up, even though it is not plugged in. It shows up as a folder with an 'x' in the lower right corner. Is there any way I can get rid of this? [Ubuntu 10.10].
[21:37] <TJ-> sporty: "sudo service network-manager restart"
[21:37] <TJ-> rean: I'm not sure about that then... I don't use Skype
[21:38] <rean> hehe I'd wish I don't need it, but it's for work... :P hehe... If I could solve the thing of the ia32-libs, I'm sure it will run
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[21:39] <TP4myBunghole> rean, do a google search for skype ppa. I cant remember the site but its there. Its what I used ages ago
[21:39] <miroslav1> can someone help me update my ubuntu 12.04 since today and it freezes up stan
[21:39] <Justm3> Is there any way to get rid of the 'ghost' drive in /media?
[21:39] <TJ-> rean:  Have you got Skype 4.0 or an older version?
[21:39] <rean> I'll try it... I've been google all the day long...
[21:39] <rean> hehe
[21:39] <rean> Yes, it's the version 4.0
[21:40] <TJ-> rean: Hmm, at a loss here then!
[21:40] <rean> Yes... indeed
[21:40] <rean> hehe
[21:40] <TJ-> I can try installing it here on 12.04 amd64 see what happens
[21:40] <sporty1> TJ - now I have eth0 back in ifconfig but still no joy!  :-(  Network manager say it's disconnected now rather than not managed.
[21:41] <TJ-> sporty1: That's progress... don't change anything!!
[21:41] <TJ-> sporty1: now do "sudo ethtool -s eth0 | pastebinit"
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[21:42] <sporty1> TJ - back to "your trying to send an empty document, exiting"
[21:42] <TJ-> sporty1: oops I typed wrong!! do this "sudo ethtool eth0 | pastebinit"
[21:43] <traubisoda> if I connect to my server with ssl, it gets frozen after ~5 minutes if i don't use it. any ideas why is that?
[21:43] <sporty1> TJ - http://pastebin.com/BErfN3nA
[21:44] <sporty1> TJ - I really appreciate all your help -
[21:46] <TJ-> sporty1: OK, that helps. That tells me a couple of things... it looks like the driver might not be configuring the network hardware correctly. I have to do some research. Give me 10 minutes to Google and test things here
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[21:47] <zykotick9> traubisoda: ssl or ssh?
[21:48] <TJ-> sporty1: Please try this. We are going to try to turn speed auto-negotiation on "sudo ethtool -s eth0 autoneg on"
[21:48] <TJ-> sporty1: After you've done that, do another pastebin for me: "sudo ethtool eth0 | pastebinit"
[21:48] <Erin> how do I log out in ubuntu 12.04 lol I want to switch to xubuntu but I see no logout app
[21:49] <KatsumeBlisk> Erin: The gear at the top right
[21:49] <ControllerSYR> hello
[21:50] <Erin> KatsumeBlisk, lol thanks the way my twinview was working I had no gear so I had to turn off the second monitor
[21:50] <traubisoda> zykotick9 ssh, my bad:)
[21:50] <sporty> TJ - http://pastebin.com/b0Dkz4Kz
[21:51] <zykotick9> traubisoda: can you reconnect?  is the server locking up, or is it just that the connection is dropping?
[21:51] <TJ-> sporty: thanks... now try "sudo ifup eth0"   ... this may not do anything, or even give an error report. That doesn't matter
[21:51] <linuxuz3r> hi
[21:52] <linuxuz3r> whats the command for sleep
[21:52] <linuxuz3r> !sleep
[21:52] <traubisoda> zykotick9 i can reconnect, it is my server, i think the connection isn't droping, but the terminal won't react to any key
[21:52] <sporty> TJ - Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.  Is what I got.
[21:53] <TJ-> sporty: That's OK ... I was just trying to 'poke' it with a big stick :p
[21:53] <zykotick9> traubisoda: sorry i don't have any suggestions, good luck.
[21:53] <TJ-> sporty: I'll go do my research on this now... and have a cup of tea for brain food ... be about 10 minutes.
[21:53] <traubisoda> zykotick9 thanks! :)
[21:54] <sporty> TJ-I appreciate it.  What get's me is when I installed UBUNTU it was working because that's how I got the internet connection.  :-(
[21:55] <TJ-> sporty: I agree... and I think we're close. Before I go, pastebin this for me: "pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces"
[21:55] <zykotick9> traubisoda: possible work-around, i live in "screen" i find it super handy for ANY terminal situations (isn't the easiest thing to use at first, but is VERY powerful - keeps things running in the background that you can reconnect too)
[21:56] <sporty> TJ - http://pastebin.com/B8uE5h1J  BTW I know the cable is good - it works on another computer I have.
[21:56] <TJ-> sporty: Thanks for telling me that... that is helpful
[21:56] <TJ-> sporty: OK... off to think!
[21:56] <linuxuz3r> !screensaver
[21:57] <linuxuz3r> where do i find the settings for screensaver?
[21:57] <linuxuz3r> guys
[21:57] <KatsumeBlisk> linuxuz3r: Hit the gear at the top right, System Settings > Screensaver
[21:57] <KatsumeBlisk> !patience | linuxuz3r
[21:57] <ubottu> linuxuz3r: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/
[21:59] <linuxuz3r> i dont see any screensaver
[21:59] <matts45acp> Hello
[21:59] <linuxuz3r> system settings > screensaver
[21:59] <linuxuz3r> do i need to install it first
[22:00] <Dr_willis> Not sure there really is much of settings for screensavers..
[22:00] <KatsumeBlisk> Dr_willis: Yeah it's more like how long do you want to wait...
[22:00] <Dr_willis> gnome sort of has downplayed the whole screensaver  stuff..
[22:00] <Dr_willis> if you want fancier screensavers. theres an alternative package in the repos.
[22:00] <Dr_willis> !info xscreensavers
[22:00] <ubottu> Package xscreensavers does not exist in precise
[22:00] <Dr_willis> !info xscreensaver
[22:00] <ubottu> xscreensaver (source: xscreensaver): Automatic screensaver for X. In component main, is optional. Version 5.15-2ubuntu1 (precise), package size 261 kB, installed size 852 kB
[22:04] <MichelFP> hi how do i install ubuntu on fakeraid
[22:04] <TJ-> sporty: silly idea but worth a try! right-click the network-manager icon on the panel, then disable and the re-enable Wired Network.
[22:04] <linuxuz3r> if i lock my screen and make the computer turn off the screen and wake it up there is a blue foreground covering my login password form. how do i get rid of the blue foreground covering my login password form so that i could see the form properly
[22:05] <TJ-> MichelFP: We had that yesterday didn't we? Have you determined that the Windows side is using a Promise fakeraid controller compatible with Linux's dmraid driver?
[22:05] <sporty> TJ - Right click on network-manager does not give me the option to disable/enable the Wired Network
[22:05] <MichelFP> TJ-: i formatted my HD completely
[22:05] <MichelFP> but i can still only find /dev/mapper/xxxxxxx instead of /dev/sda
[22:06] <linuxuz3r> please help
[22:06] <linuxuz3r> if i lock my screen and make the computer turn off the screen and wake it up there is a blue foreground covering my login password form. how do i get rid of the blue foreground covering my login password form so that i could see the form properly
[22:06] <TJ-> sporty: OK, remind me... is this Ubuntu 12.04 or 10.04 ?
[22:06] <faisal> how can see ubuntu source code mv
[22:06] <TJ-> MichelFP: OK, is that using the liveCD installer you see those?
[22:06] <sporty> TJ-left click tells me the wired network is disconnected - even though it is!  No flashing lights at the cable connector.  10.04
[22:07] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/167468/where-can-i-find-the-source-code-of-ubuntu  fairuz
[22:07] <Dr_willis> I think mv is part of the coreutils package.
[22:08] <sporty> TJ-This laptop is dual setup - 10.04 and 12.04, I have the same problem with either system.  I figured if I could fix it on 10.04 which is what I normally use I'd try the same fix for the other partition.
[22:08] <MichelFP> tj-: yes
[22:08] <zykotick9> Dr_willis: you are correct "coreutils: /bin/mv" faisal
[22:08] <Dr_willis> zykotick9,  for once.. ;)
[22:09] <TJ-> sporty: Ahhh OK. So long since I used 10.04 I can't remember what's supposed to be on the menus :) ... I thought there used to be an option when you right-click the icon to enable/disable both wired and wireless networking, but maybe thats more recent. In which case... if you see enable/disable networking... do that. disable then re-enable everything. You'll drop off IRC for a few seconds but it might be whats needed to wake up eth0
[22:09] <traubisoda> zykotick9 thanks
[22:09] <zykotick9> Dr_willis: lol - your right more often then not (i'd say)
[22:09] <TJ-> MichelFP: You need to use the dmraid tool to erase the fakeraid metadata. "sudo dmraid -x"
[22:09] <MichelFP> okay
[22:09] <MichelFP> <3
[22:10] <sporty1> TJ-tried it - NO-JOY
[22:10] <MichelFP> TJ-: if i uninstall fakeraid, will i still be able to dual boot if i want to?
[22:12] <TJ-> MichelFP: As long as you install Windows only to regular partitions rather than to RAID, yes
[22:12] <MichelFP> okay
[22:12] <MichelFP> thx very much TJ-
[22:12] <MichelFP> you saved my box
[22:12] <sporty1> TJ Ya still with me?
[22:12] <TJ-> MichelFP: GRUB can't do 'dmraid' so far as I know, but Linux can boot to it  - I used to do it
[22:12] <TJ-> sporty1: Yes, and I'm still thinking!
[22:13] <MichelFP> TJ-: what do you mean?
[22:14] <TJ-> MichelFP: GRUB can't understand the metadata at the start of fakeraid partitions so it can't boot from it - unless GRUB2 added fakeraid modules of course
[22:14] <TJ-> MichelFP: I used to have a regular partition for Linux /boot/ and then the rest of Linux in fakeraid alongside Windows
[22:15] <matts45acp2> What do I type to see my irc friends list
[22:15] <c0deMaster> how to mount Journaled HFS for r/w ?
[22:16] <linuxuz3r_> !suspend
[22:16] <TJ-> sporty1: The cable you've got connected. Is there any possibility it could be a cross-over cable rather than a straight-through cable? I'd expect to see this kind of problem with a cross-over cable connected to a 100Mb port like this. A 1Gb port can detect the cross-over and adjust, but 100Mb ports can't
[22:16] <linuxuz3r_> does your suspend work?
[22:16] <linuxuz3r_> guys
[22:16] <linuxuz3r_> does suspend work
[22:16] <linuxuz3r_> ?
[22:16] <TJ-> c0deMaster: From recent discussions I understand it isn't possible
[22:16] <matts45acp2> What do I type to see my irc friends list
[22:17] <linuxuz3r_> does suspend work???????????????????????????
[22:17] <TJ-> linuxuz3r_: Yes. If you are having problems review "/var/log/kern.log" with 'Log file viewer' after a failed suspend attempt to identify which device failed to suspend
[22:17] <sporty1> TJ-I've tried several different cables all to no avail - what's the difference between a cross-over vs a straight-through:
[22:18] <linuxuz3r_> TJ-, where do i get the log file viewer
[22:18] <sporty1> This cable worked on a Dell D-600 running MS XP.
[22:18] <TJ-> linuxuz3r_: Type it into the Ubuntu dash
[22:19] <matts45acp2> Hello
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[22:21] <TJ-> sporty1: OK to cables then. I'll continue digging. Whilst I do, would you mind doing a complete shutdown of the PC... switch power off and if it's a laptop even remove the battery for 30 seconds... then start up again. Sometimes whilst devices retain power they remember bad settings
[22:22] <sporty1> TJ- OK
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[22:22] <vvpalin> lol really? shutting down might work but pulling the battery isnt gonna do anything
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[22:23] <coldpizza72i> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=252180 How can i add port 111 to the custom rules as post 7 says?
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> vvpalin  pull out the battery, keep the power button pressed for 5 seconds, it's a hardware reset
[22:24] <vvpalin> ya i get what your saying, but im telling you thats not gonna do anything unless there is a bios issue and for that you need to pull the cmos battery aswell
[22:24] <test> Hi
[22:25] <TJ-> vvpalin: especially in laptops many NICs maintain power for WOL purposes. Pulling the battery is often the only way to get them to 'forget' their settings
[22:27] <matts45acp> can someone tell me what to type to see my irc freinds list
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[22:28] <zykotick9> matts45acp: irc has friends lists?  news to me, what client are you using?
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[22:28] <WinVery> Does this work for you on Ubuntu - http://winvery.com , sure hope so lol
[22:28] <Debolaz> Hmmm, how do i get rid of the "kubuntu" boot screen after installing kubuntu-desktop in vanilla Ubuntu?
[22:28] <sdz> How can I specify on which output to display the framebuffer? kernel /stable root=/dev/sda3 video=uvesafb:mtrr:3,ywrap,1920x1200-32@60
[22:29] <coldpizza72i> Can someone help me setup my nfs server... Im having many problems
[22:29] <topihitam> hello
[22:30] <MonkeyDust> coldpizza72i  i use NFS, let's hear it
[22:30] <Sporty> TJ - I'm back - did as you suggested still no joy.
[22:31] <TJ-> Sporty: OK... was a long shot but at least now we know the network is in a sane state after all the changes. Can you pastebin for me "pastebinit /var/log/syslog"
[22:31] <coldpizza72i> MonkeyDust: rpc.nfsd: writing fd to kernel failed: errno 111 (Connection refused)
[22:31] <coldpizza72i> MonkeyDust: I cant get the nfs service running
[22:32] <MonkeyDust> coldpizza72i  what was the command you gave to make it run?
[22:32] <coldpizza72i> MonkeyDust: I think post 7 might help me, but im not sure how to set the custom rules or anything http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=252180
[22:32] <coldpizza72i> MonkeyDust: "sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server start  "
[22:33] <MonkeyDust> coldpizza72i  both regular pc's, local and remote?
[22:33] <thee> hola alguien habla spanish
[22:33] <coldpizza72i> MonkeyDust: huh?
[22:33] <TJ-> !es | thee
[22:33] <zykotick9> !es | thee
[22:33] <ubottu> thee: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.
[22:34] <Sporty> TJ - http://pastebin.com/Z2YiqgbX
[22:34] <TJ-> Sporty: thanks
[22:34] <MonkeyDust> coldpizza72i  NFS is to mount a remote partition locally, so are both machines normal pc's?
[22:35] <coldpizza72i> MonkeyDust: what do you mean by normal
[22:35] <TJ-> Sporty: This is looking better: "NetworkManager: <info>  (eth0): now managed"
[22:36] <coldpizza72i> THe server will run on my ubuntu desktop and client on my macbook
[22:36] <coldpizza72i> MonkeyDust: ^^
[22:36] <MonkeyDust> coldpizza72i  so it's a mac, it's not a regular pc, that's why i asked
[22:37] <gozon> does anyone know where to change the java security configuration to make it able to copy and paste in a applet
[22:37] <TJ-> Sporty: followed by "kernel: [   13.132369] sky2 eth0: enabling interface"
[22:37] <coldpizza72i> MonkeyDust: I dont see how the client is relevent to not even being able to get the server running
[22:37] <coldpizza72i> thats all
[22:37] <Sporty> TJ - So now Network-Manager is managing it - but we're not connected.
[22:38] <TJ-> Sporty: Although you're sure about the cable there's one thing we haven't checked. Can you plug the cable into a different port on the router?
[22:38] <MonkeyDust> coldpizza72i  and is it a mac with ubuntu or with macos? i'm asking, because i don't know mac, let alone nfs on mac
[22:38] <harrismrubin_> Dr_willis,  will this work in a hp pavilion dv6000 ode +i harrismrubin_
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[22:38] <harrismrubin_> www.amazon.com/Intel-802-11n-draft-Wi-Fi-Adapter/dp/B0036BJN12/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1345243012&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=Intel+Centrino+1030+-+802.11+b%2Fg%2Fn+Wireless+LAN
[22:38] <TJ-> Sporty: Correct... if the hardware side would come up everything would work
[22:38] <Sporty> TJ-Tried that
[22:38] <stefanie> hi
[22:39] <TaJMoX> Can anyone reccomend me a good music service provider that supports Linux and transferring to my MP3 player? Spotify only supports Android and iPod, so it's out of the question.
[22:39] <coldpizza72i> MonkeyDust: Im mostly interested in getting the nfs server running... If I have problems mounting it on my macbook Ill goto #MACOSX
[22:39] <Sporty> TJ- I just grabbed another cable and plugged it into a different port - STILL NO JOY.
[22:39] <simplyska> Hey guys, I was wondering if someone could help. My Ubuntu box is connected to my network fine, but for some reason does not have internet access, and I can't figure out what's gone wrong. It's connected via Ethernet. I'm not running a GUI either. Thanks.
[22:39] <stefanie> hallo
[22:39] <TJ-> Sporty: thanks
[22:40] <Viking667> hi all. Under the user's .config directory, there's a monitors.xml file. What setting application tweaks this file?
[22:40] <MonkeyDust> coldpizza72i  good luck, it sounds like beyond my knowledge
[22:40] <Sporty> TJ-Third cable and port - not working
[22:40] <matts45acp> anyone here tell me how to open google chrome from terminal
[22:40] <xangua> TaJMoX: http://www.spotify.com/us/download/previews/
[22:41] <coldpizza72i> MonkeyDust: Do you atleast know how I can do post 7 http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=252180
[22:41] <Sporty> TJ - I'm going to have to go, we have company coming in a few minutes.  Ponder the problem - would there be a time tomorrow that I might find you here?
[22:42] <Viking667> mattswe: simply:  google-chrome http://some.url/
[22:42] <MonkeyDust> coldpizza72i  read it again, no, does not loo familiar
[22:42] <MonkeyDust> look*
[22:42] <TJ-> Sporty: OK... I'm often around... I'm in U.K time
[22:42] <Sporty> I'll try you about the same time tomorrow ok?
[22:43] <plasmasolutions>  Good evening guys...I've got a brand new intuos 5 under ubuntu here and need really your help. As far as I can see the pen /eraser is working properly but when I lay my finger at on of the left tablet buttons or move it in a straight row from top to bottom the pointer moves for a very short timespan to 0|0 (causing the exposee feature under gnome3 to happen)
[22:43] <chtsrl> Hello. How can I run this compiz visual effect on my Ubuntu
[22:43] <plasmasolutions> When I set the panel to left handed, the pointer moves to the lower right for a tiny period of time
[22:43] <plasmasolutions> I installed under my ubuntu 12.04 this package-archive: ppa:lekensteyn/wacom-tablet and the wacom-dkms package, it's this archive: https://launchpad.net/~lekensteyn/+archive/wacom-tablet
[22:43] <benji_> Hi, how can I upgrade an ubuntu 9.10 headless?
[22:44] <chtsrl> anyone around
[22:44] <xangua> chtsrl: if you are using unity you are already using compiz
[22:44] <plasmasolutions> So all you wacom pros...help me to solve this annoyance
[22:44] <xangua> !eol | chtsrl
[22:44] <ubottu> chtsrl: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[22:44] <MonkeyDust> benji_  you can't uprade directly from 9.10 to 12.04
[22:44] <chtsrl> how do I check if I use or not
[22:45] <benji_> MonkeyDust, Can I follow that?
[22:45] <benji_> all the way up to 12.04?
[22:45] <APoulos> hello all - could someone assist me? I'm trying to find the most optimal version of ubuntu that will run on a 512MB MacBook
[22:46] <exutux> benji_: you to upgrade to 10.04 first and then you can upgrade directly 10.04 > 12.04
[22:46] <exutux> you have*
[22:46] <APoulos> what would be the most optimal distro in the Ubuntu family that would run without lag on a 512MB ram macbook?
[22:46] <benji_> ok :)
[22:46] <MonkeyDust> benji_  haven't try, cannot give advice, but i guess not -- do you have physical access to the headless pc?
[22:46] <benji_> yes I do have an access
[22:46] <benji_> sudo do-release-upgrade -d will not work?
[22:46] <MonkeyDust> benji_  or do as exutux says
[22:46] <plasmasolutions> Noone with an Inuos 5 from wacom here?
[22:47] <chtsrl> how do I see if I use unity or not
[22:47] <stefanie> huhu
[22:47] <MonkeyDust> chtsrl  is it with a bar on the left?
[22:47] <chtsrl> yeah
[22:47] <MonkeyDust> chtsrl  that's unity
[22:47] <k1l_> chtsrl: look at this: http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[22:47] <dave_> ?
[22:48] <harrismrubin_> does anyone use this card www.amazon.com/Intel-802-11n-draft-Wi-Fi-Adapter/dp/B0036BJN12/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1345243012&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=Intel+Centrino+1030+-+802.11+b%2Fg%2Fn+Wireless+LAN
[22:48] <benji_> exutux, "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" is that likely to work?
[22:48] <APoulos> anyone have any ideas? trying to find a good ubuntu distro that would run well on a 512MB Macbook
[22:48] <exutux> benji_: nope becasue 9.10 is eol
[22:48] <chtsrl> but why my windows are not moving with those beautiful visual effects
[22:49] <exutux> benji_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Karmic
[22:49] <harrismrubin_> anyone
[22:49] <exutux> benji_: you have to use an alternate cd
[22:49] <benji_> exutux, in this link they say "To upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04, you must now use the Alternate CD upgrade method. Or you can use: sudo do-release-upgrade -d"
[22:49] <exutux> benji_: but I advice to reinstall it fresh
[22:50] <MonkeyDust> benji_  you have physical access, fresh install is a lot faster and efficient -- backup first
[22:50] <MonkeyDust> more efficient*
[22:50] <Soulstitchmmo> What is the command to start the GUI? After updating my Ubuntu is starting into Terminal Mode.
[22:50] <benji_> MonkeyDust, what is a fresh install exactly? format+install?
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[22:51] <exutux> benji_: if it's an headless pc you have to install update-manager-core before
[22:52] <exutux> but I realluy quote MonkeyDust advice
[22:52] <exutux> really*
[22:53] <chtsrl> anyone
[22:53] <linuxuz3r> how do i find out what gnome version i have
[22:53] <zykotick9> Soulstitchmmo: "startx" or "sudo service lightdm start"
[22:53] <chtsrl> How do I start (use) compiz visual effects
[22:53] <zykotick9> Soulstitchmmo: both or more likely just useful for diagnostics for you right now.
[22:54] <Soulstitchmmo> zykotick9: thanks, i'll try those.
[22:54] <exutux> chtsrl: in which ubuntu version?
[22:54] <chtsrl> the last one
[22:54] <zykotick9> !ccsm | chtsrl be careful, you can break unity using some settings
[22:54] <ubottu> chtsrl be careful, you can break unity using some settings: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' (or 'simple-ccsm' for pre-Oneiric). If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz
[22:55] <exutux> chtsrl: the last one that is 12.04 use unity, it's a compiz plugin, then you're using compiz
[22:55] <chtsrl> how do I run it
[22:56] <exutux> it uses by default
[22:56] <chtsrl> but why windows doesnt have this effect
[22:56] <exutux> chtsrl: maybe you're using unity-2d
[22:56] <exutux> ?
[22:56] <chtsrl> let me show you
[22:57] <MonkeyDust> benji_  fresh install = new install
[22:59] <mwilliams1220> I should mention I am relatively new to Linux, even though I have been using it for a couple of years, this is the first time I had a problem that I couldn't find the answer to online:  Here is my question:  I am using 12.04 on a dual booted Toshiba laptop and I can no longer change the volume on my computer.  when I check output on the sound settings, there is nothing listed and all the options are greyed out.  I still have volume that I can control
[22:59] <mwilliams1220>  through what ever program I am using (VLC, Rhythm Box, YouTube videos).  The volume control works fine when I boot into Windows, so I am pretty sure it is not a hardware issue.  This happened sometime after I upgraded to 12.04.
[23:02] <MonkeyDust> mwilliams1220  in a terminal, type alsamixer, MM means mute
[23:02] <plasmasolutions> Wacom Intuos 5 help needed :  As far as I can see the pen /eraser is working properly but when I lay my finger at on of the left tablet buttons or move it in a straight row from top to bottom the pointer moves for a very short timespan to 0|0 (causing the exposee feature under gnome3 to happen)
[23:02] <WeThePeople> type 'm' to unmute
[23:03] <chtsrl> found the answer
[23:03] <WeThePeople> with it selected
[23:03] <MonkeyDust> chtsrl  phare it with the channel, for future reference
[23:03] <TaJMoX> Xangua why did you recommend Spotify to me?
[23:03] <MonkeyDust> share*
[23:03] <chtsrl> and how do I make sure that my graphic card driver is installed on ubuntu and its up to date
[23:03] <zykotick9> chtsrl: what card?  "lspci | grep -i vga" if you aren't sure.
[23:04] <chtsrl> nvidia
[23:04] <mwilliams1220> MonkeyDust:  dong that now
[23:04] <TaJMoX> Can anyone reccomend me a good music service provider that supports Linux and transferring to my MP3 player? Spotify only supports Android and iPod, so I can't use it for my MP3 players.
[23:04] <TaJMoX> I do NOT have an Android or iPod
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[23:04] <mwilliams1220> MonkeyDust:  what am I looking at?
[23:05] <chtsrl> sorry I was wrong zykotick9: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller
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[23:05] <MonkeyDust> mwilliams1220  if you see MM, go there and press m
[23:05] <zykotick9> chtsrl: if you've install the proprietary driver from "addition drivers" (or whatever it's called), just do a regular update - either GUI through update manager, or "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[23:05] <chtsrl> this is what ive got when I typed ur command
[23:05] <zykotick9> chtsrl: same answer, but no proprietary driver is available...
[23:06] <mwilliams1220> MonkeyDust:  I don't see mm
[23:06] <mwilliams1220> master, headphone and speeaker have 00
[23:06] <WeThePeople> look underneath the bars
[23:06] <WeThePeople> then press the up arrow
[23:06] <WeThePeople> to turn up the volume
[23:06] <MonkeyDust> mwilliams1220  use arrows to increase it
[23:07] <sirien> hei
[23:07] <mwilliams1220> they are all at 100
[23:07] <chtsrl> zykotick what do u mean with no proprietary driver is available
[23:08] <zykotick9> !tab | chtsrl
[23:08] <ubottu> chtsrl: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[23:08] <sirien> is it normal to have trouble with the wireless on ubuntu?
[23:08] <zykotick9> chtsrl: intel has open source drivers
[23:09] <MonkeyDust> !details > sirien
[23:09] <ubottu> sirien, please see my private message
[23:09] <zykotick9> sirien: depends on the wireless - some work OOTB, others can be a big pain... (not ubuntu specific issue)
[23:09] <WeThePeople> mwilliams1220, use the right arrow key to scroll over
[23:10] <exutux> MonkeyDust: http://askubuntu.com/questions/131307/i-have-sound-but-volume-bar-is-inactive-and-i-cant-use-volume-shortcuts
[23:10] <chtsrl> zykotick9:  and that means ubuntu wont iststall the driver or what
[23:10] <mwilliams1220> I have them all up to the top
[23:10] <exutux> herm mwilliams1220 ^
[23:10] <WeThePeople> are they all set to 00?
[23:10] <exutux> mwilliams1220: http://askubuntu.com/questions/131307/i-have-sound-but-volume-bar-is-inactive-and-i-cant-use-volume-shortcuts
[23:10] <zykotick9> chtsrl: i means you don't need to install a specific driver (90+% of the time, some of the new intel stuff seems to give some issues)
[23:11] <mwilliams1220> exutux:  I have seen that page, it didn't help :(
[23:12] <dtcrshr> My battery indicator has gone. I have the updates, audio, clock/date and wireless indicator, but the battery wont show, how do i get it back?
[23:13] <mwilliams1220> what is the trick for autocomplete in IRC?
[23:13] <MonkeyDust> mwilliams1220  tab
[23:13] <Paulo39> hi ppl, i'm having this problem: my computer has ubuntu, archlinux and windows 7 installed. the grub was installed with ubuntu and it worked fine booting into any system i want to... until now. i've been away for some weeks and today i turn on the computer, boot ubuntu and update all the system, then i reboot to boot into arch and i find the menuentry just disappeared from grub (windows is still there and working). how can i fix grub now?
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> dtcrshr, Look in power there is a dropdown for when you want the battery to show.
[23:14] <mwilliams1220> MonkeyDust: thank  you!
[23:14] <KatsumeBlisk> Paulo39: Have you run "sudo grub-update" in the terminal?
[23:14] <Paulo39> i know in which partition, arch system is, but i'm not able to mount it, i don't know why.
[23:14] <mwilliams1220> MonkeyDust: still no sound
[23:14] <KatsumeBlisk> Paulo39: Maybe it's "update-grub". I've forgotten. lol.
[23:15] <Paulo39> KatsumeBlisk, yes, i did. it doesn't find the arch system. then i saw a tip on internet, about have the arch partition mounted and just then do that command
[23:15] <zykotick9> update-grub Paulo39
[23:16] <Paulo39> but i'm not able to even mount the partition.. for example, if i open file manager, i see on the left side the partition, but if i click there, nothing happens
[23:16] <KatsumeBlisk> zykotick9: Yeah. Thought I was wrong earlier...
[23:16] <mwilliams1220> MonkeyDust: when I go to output on sound settings, there is nothing there under output
[23:16] <zykotick9> KatsumeBlisk: almost ;)
[23:16] <Paulo39> zykotick9, it doesn't find my arch system
[23:16] <KatsumeBlisk> Paulo39: Have you tried mounting it manually in the terminal?
[23:16] <dtcrshr> wilee-nilee: cant find it
[23:17] <Paulo39> KatsumeBlisk, i don't know how to do it...
[23:17] <Paulo39> if i try mount /dev/sda8 it says me it was unable to find it in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[23:17] <MonkeyDust> mwilliams1220  "nothing"? is it switched on? (top right)
[23:18] <Furbo> Hi. Ubuntu 12.04 - from time to time system responds very slowly to keyboard input. Checked top - no abnormal CPU usage by any process. Can't seem to detect problems with mounted volumes or network activity. Any suggestions ?
[23:19] <mwilliams1220> MonkeyDust: what do you mean?
[23:19] <phoz> hey
[23:19] <MonkeyDust> mwilliams1220  next to the output volume bar, is it switched on?
[23:19] <wilee-nilee> dtcrshr, looks like this although I have found it to make no difference in my 12.04 setup, it does help though if you name the release and desktop you run as well. http://imagebin.org/224943
[23:20] <mwilliams1220> MonkeyDust: the sound level under the volume icon is greyed out.
[23:20] <sambagirl> i used a program to install ubuntu on usb. when it comes up it asks about detect and mount the  cdrom but i am using usb what should i do?
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> Furbo, this a wireless keyboard a bluetooth?
[23:21] <MonkeyDust> mwilliams1220  i mean in system settings > sound, the output volume bar
[23:21] <Furbo> wilee-nilee: Microsoft wireless keboard
[23:21] <wilee-nilee> sambagirl, your computer will boot from a usb?
[23:22] <Furbo> wilee-nilee: think it's the driver ?
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> Furbo, okay but is it within the questions I asked, we all don't use microsoft keyboards, details are the question here.
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> ah wireless I missed that my bad Furbo
[23:23] <mwilliams1220> MonkeyDust: volume control is set to the far left and I can't get it to change
[23:23] <Furbo> wilee-nilee: no prob - never considered that the keyboard might be the problem...
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> Furbo, personally all I could do is look on the web for info on that exact keyboard and ubuntu have you done that?
[23:23] <sirien> thanks, monkeydust, for your directions. turning the wireless-switch ON tends to solve these kinds of problems. Mine, at least. :S
[23:24] <MonkeyDust> mwilliams1220  ok, but is it switched on? or is there no on/off switch?
[23:24] <harrismrubin_> how do i change the windows key to ubuntu key
[23:24] <mwilliams1220> MonkeyDust: there is no on/off switch
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[23:24] <Furbo> wilee-nilee: haven't done that yet because I thought it was related to something else - that's the first thing I should have done... thanks :-)
[23:26] <harrismrubin_> how do you make numlock turn on automatically
[23:27] <lauratika> is there a wine channel?
[23:28] <harrismrubin_> lauratika,  #winehq
[23:28] <lauratika> thanx!
[23:28] <harrismrubin_> no prob
[23:29] <lauratika> anyone with expirience with rosseta stone and wine in here?
[23:29] <MonkeyDust> !info numlockx > harrismrubin_
[23:29] <harrismrubin_> thank you
[23:29] <failedassertion> I have a bug but I don't know where to file it. Using the "fsprotect" package in universe doesn't work on /var with samba installed, because samba starts writing to files in /var/log before fsprotect can move the rw-mounted /var out of the way.
[23:30] <Erin> trying to do sudo apt-get upgrade and getting this.... The following packages have been kept back:
[23:30] <Erin>   hplip hplip-data libhpmud0 libsane-hpaio linux-generic linux-headers-generic
[23:30] <Erin>   linux-image-generic printer-driver-hpcups printer-driver-hpijs
[23:30] <Linix> Hey guys, am I the only one using Chromium/Chrome? If not could you guys take a look at this (http://twitter.com/decio_crytek/status/236605511993282560/photo/1/large) thing because it never happened to me before and this message pops-up every time I launch  Chrome and it is actually annoying!
[23:30] <harrismrubin_> how do i enable numlokx
[23:30] <Erin> why is it holding packages back
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | Erin
[23:30] <ubottu> Erin: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[23:31] <failedassertion> fsprotect is written for Debian, where presumably the lack of upstart prevents this race from ocurring
[23:31] <failedassertion> so is this an fsprotect bug or an Ubuntu bug?
[23:31] <Linix> Hey guys, am I the only one using Chromium/Chrome? If not could you guys take a look at this (http://twitter.com/decio_crytek/status/236605511993282560/photo/1/large) thing because it never happened to me before and this message pops-up every time I launch  Chrome and it is actually annoying!
[23:32] <keith__> Linix did you run chromium as root
[23:32] <keith__> at some point
[23:32] <Erin> Linix, you need to fix permissions probaly
[23:32] <Linix> keith_ No.
[23:32] <Linix> Erin: how
[23:33] <failedassertion> Erin: generally, packages get held back to prevent unexpected kernel updates. So, that's why linux-image-generic is getting held back
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> Packages get held ack because the deps are not met
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> *back
[23:33] <keith__> Linix, do you have a .chrome or .chromium directory in your home directory
[23:33] <Erin> this is a fresh install.
[23:33] <keith__> Linix, I don't have Chrome installed right now
[23:33] <zykotick9> Erin: you need to use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to do the same thing as the GUI update manager (it updates everything)
[23:34] <b3rz3rk3r_> Linix, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1501758
[23:34] <Erin> zykotick9, yea someone told me that in Pm and it worked.
[23:34] <Linix> keith_ no
[23:34] <Erin> zykotick9, remember me lol from earlier with the stupid nvidia/vga problem it was all solved by a reinstall :-P
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> b3rz3rk3r_, tab the users name so they get the message.
[23:35] <b3rz3rk3r_> wilee-nilee, i did
[23:35] <zykotick9> Erin: "solved by a reinstall" funny, i wouldn't consider that a solution ;)  glad it's working for ya!
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> Erin: if a package in the repos depends on a version of another package but it's too low, it will be held back, when the packages get updated the package will come down
[23:35] <silverarrow> am I here?
[23:35] <zykotick9> Erin: kernels almost always require dist-upgrade FYI
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> Linix: is there one in ~/.config
[23:36] <Erin> zykotick9, well it was the only way to get it fixed I figured, I tried alot of stuff nothing was working some kind of "ghost" was in the machine. Install was very quick and getting stuff re-setup was actually easy since I just saved all my config files like sshd_config and smb.conf etc
[23:36] <wilee-nilee> b3rz3rk3r_, I you did my bad sorry about that. ;)
[23:36] <b3rz3rk3r_> ActionParsnip, i've already sent him a link which says how to fix it
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> b3rz3rk3r_: sweet
[23:36] <b3rz3rk3r_> wilee-nilee, np mate
[23:36] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: it's the installing new, that usually causes "update" not to update everything...
[23:36] <Linix> ActionParsnip b3rz3rk3r_ keith__ Thanks guys but b3rz3rk3r_'s solution worked
[23:36] <harrismrubin_> ActionParsnip,  hi
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> hi harrismrubin_
[23:37] <keith__> Linix, cool
[23:37] <zykotick9> Erin: backing up config files is smart!  so is reinstall - if you have no other option
[23:37] <harrismrubin_> thank you for helping me
[23:37] <Erin> zykotick9, later today i'll make a full hd image with DD incase anything gets jacked up.
[23:37] <harrismrubin_> now i will do you ActionParsnip  and Dr_willis  a favor by never coming back on this channel
[23:37] <Erin> zykotick9, yea I tried to fix it for probably 8-10 hours over two days and reinstalled it worked out of the box :-)
[23:37] <zykotick9> Erin: waste of space to do drive imaging (that's a windows thing).  but do whatever you think best.
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> Erin: its a good backup method :)
[23:38] <Erin> zykotick9, why is it a waste of space? one command I have a 100% backup and I can re-install the backup with one command as well.
[23:38] <zykotick9> Erin: you just proved how fast reinstall is ;)
[23:38] <Erin> zykotick9, why is it a waste of space? one command I have a 100% backup and I can re-install the backup with one command as well.
[23:38] <harrismrubin_> ActionParsnip,  please use your op power to kick me
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[23:39] <zykotick9> Erin: do what YOU want.  we can hold different opinions and both be right ;)
[23:39] <keith__> we can?!
[23:39] <Erin> zykotick9, thats what big hard drives are for ;-P
[23:39] <zykotick9> keith__: not you ;) only Erin and I :p
[23:40] <rypervenche> haha
[23:40] <mwilliams1220> I have lost my volume control on my my laptop.  I am using 12.04 on a dual booted Toshiba laptop and I can no longer change the volume on my computer.  When I check output on the sound settings, there is nothing listed and all the options(including volume) are greyed out.  I still have volume that I can control through what ever program I am using (VLC, Rhythm Box, YouTube videos).  The volume control works fine when I boot into Windows, so I am pret
[23:40] <mwilliams1220> ty sure it is not a hardware issue.  This happened sometime after I upgraded to 12.04.
[23:40] <keith__> zykotick9, oh ok haha.  Well VIM is far superior to emacs, hows that
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> harrismrubin_: i'm not an op
[23:40] <mwilliams1220> I should mention I am relatively new to Linux, even though I have been using it for a couple of years, this is the first time I had a problem that I couldn't find the answer to online:  Here is my question:  I am using 12.04 on a dual booted Toshiba laptop and I can no longer change the volume on my computer.  when I check output on the sound settings, there is nothing listed and all the options are greyed out.  I still have volume that I can control
[23:40] <mwilliams1220>  through what ever program I am using (VLC, Rhythm Box, YouTube videos).  The volume control works fine when I boot into Windows, so I am pretty sure it is not a hardware issue.  This happened sometime after I upgraded to 12.04.
[23:40] <FloodBot1> mwilliams1220: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:40] <Erin> zykotick9, my / on this machine is only 40gb its an ssd and then I got a 1TB drive for storage. this is my music/home server machine. ;-)
[23:40] <mwilliams1220> fat fingers, sorry
[23:40] <generic48> quit
[23:40] <harrismrubin_> yes
[23:40] <rypervenche> <3 vim
[23:41] <keith__> :)
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> mwilliams1220: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*       wait 10 seconds and reboot
[23:41] <zykotick9> Erin: i run 60GB SSD (58% full), 1TB (52% full), 1TB (67% full) and 500GB (46% full).  i can fill my drives with better stuff ;)  config files take so little to backup.
[23:41] <keith__> rypervenche, I guess i'm not starting any trouble :)
[23:41] <failedassertion> Erin: You're going to store all the unallocated space, which is wasteful and time-consuming, both on backup and restore (as I'm sure you're aware), and you can't really get around it by gzipping either since the unalloc'd space isn't guaranteed to be zero'd
[23:41] <mwilliams1220> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[23:42] <Erin> zykotick9, yea they do and linux is awesome cause most things are controlled by one text file lol
[23:43] <zykotick9> Erin: oh how i love "config files" ;)
[23:43] <Erin> failedassertion, yea but like zykotick9 said we might disagree cause I feel 40GB out of 1000gb is nothing to be able to say. Oh my computer took a crap well let me boot a live-usb and run one command and boom back to working
[23:43] <zykotick9> Erin: and the whole home directory with hidden for settings - brilliant
[23:44] <Erin> I might even backup my 120gb ssd C:/ on my windows gaming machine.
[23:44] <Erin> I might backup the WORLD if i had enough storage ;-)
[23:44] <mwilliams1220> ActionParsnip: I got this result:  pulseaudio: no process found
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> Erin: you should backup anything you don't want to lose
[23:45] <zykotick9> Erin: i have NOTHING against backups!  it's just i think drive imaging is a "waste of space"...
[23:45] <Erin> I got a 2TB for game backup on my windows machine since I do alot of game modding and stuff gets borked all the time.
[23:46] <viralfrost> ya...I was installing windows 7 the other day, and had my linux partition on a logical partition..and when i deleted my windows partition, for some reason it also deleted my swap and my first linux partition with mint on it...
[23:46] <viralfrost> backing up is important :P
[23:46] <mwilliams1220> ActionParsnip: rebooting anyway, back in 5
[23:46] <diminoten> it's pointless to backup things you can get elsewhere
[23:46] <viralfrost> stupid thing didnt even ask for confirmation or anything...just deleted the partitions...
[23:46] <Erin> this time I installed ubuntu with seperate Logical partitions for /  /home and /var
[23:47] <Erin> per someones advice from here.
[23:47] <diminoten> backups aren't every *supposed* to be used
[23:47] <diminoten> only when something goes wrong do you use backups
[23:47] <viralfrost> stupid windows programmers...why cant they make a good partitioner with windows installer..like gparted
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: storage is cheap, backups are good. Reduces downtime if you can restore a system image :)
[23:47] <diminoten> sure sure
[23:47] <failedassertion> Erin: fair enough. and I guess my use case is a little strange, since I usually wind up doing that over a network...
[23:47] <Erin> yea my 2TB drive was like $100 bucks that is cheap im gonna pick up like 3 more I think.
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> viralfrost: it does, just gotta use it right and not make one big partition for everything
[23:47] <Dr_willis> I think ive seen 3TB in the $100 range..
[23:48] <Erin> Dr_willis, nice, with sata 6.0gbs ? mines a seagate
[23:48] <Dr_willis> I always use external usb3 these days for backups.
[23:48] <Dr_willis> I got a Segate i need to regurn under warrenty. its an older 1TB.
[23:48]  * zykotick9 still hasn't broken the 2GB barrier - and is kinda fearful of GPT or whatever partitions...
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> i have a system whic holds backups
[23:49] <sudu> anyone know of a chat app that we have that suports sms like yahoo
[23:49] <Erin> haha my new computer z77/3570k has usb3 I have never used yet lol.
[23:50] <sudu> actionparsnip thanks for the ifo the otherday it worked
[23:51] <miceiken> http://paste2.org/p/2130576 - what do I do? there is no -R for recursive in mv
[23:51] <Erin> miceiken, pretty sure there is
[23:52] <miceiken> miceiken@celeste:~$ mv -R /var/torrents/* "/media/external/TV Shows/"
[23:52] <miceiken> mv: invalid option -- 'R'
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> miceiken: mv -a  may help
[23:52] <miceiken> mv: invalid option -- 'a'
[23:52] <zykotick9> miceiken: i haven't checked you paste, but mv doesn't require -r or -R usually
[23:52] <miceiken> zykotick9: mv: inter-device move failed: `/var/torrents/Boardwalk Empire' to `/media/external/TV Shows/Boardwalk Empire'; unable to remove target: Is a directory
[23:53] <miceiken> could it be because it exists on the destination?
[23:53] <trism> miceiken: use cp not mv, cp -R /var/torrents/* /media/external/TV;
[23:53] <zykotick9> miceiken: add a trailing / "..Broadwalk Empire/"
[23:53] <Erin> miceiken, i dont think we are supposed to help you with copyright infringement anyway
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> miceiken: is the destination writable?
[23:53] <bekks> cp -a instead of cp -R
[23:53] <mwilliams1220> ActionParsnip: It worked!  thnak you!
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> mwilliams1220: sweet
[23:53] <miceiken> 1. Erin I bought this and put it in my torrents folder, happy?
[23:53] <miceiken> 2. Why cp? I want to move, not copy
[23:53] <Erin> miceiken, maybe if i was gullable
[23:54] <miceiken> 3. zykotick9, I did *
[23:54] <bekks> miceiken: cp && rm == mv
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> miceiken: its shorter, many linux commands are 2 letter
[23:54] <miceiken> 4. Acidflash| Yes
[23:54] <miceiken> ActionParsnip* yes its writeable
[23:54] <zykotick9> miceiken: what is the actual command you are running inclue " around the entire thing
[23:55] <miceiken> when I get those errors: "mv /var/torrents/* /media/external/TV\ Shows/"
[23:55] <zykotick9> miceiken: looks correct to me.  is this a permission issue?
[23:55] <miceiken> might be, i thought of that
[23:56] <mwilliams1220> I want a program to autostart minimized, how can I do that?
[23:56] <zykotick9> miceiken: what filesystem is on external?
[23:56] <miceiken> NTFS
[23:56] <zykotick9> miceiken: good luck - i'm out.  (i won't see any further of your posts)
[23:56] <miceiken> lol what
[23:57] <miceiken> is there any harm in trying to sudo mv?
[23:57] <linuxuz3r> im missing glxinfo and glxgears on my ubuntu installation
[23:57] <linuxuz3r> i need them how do i install them?
[23:58] <bekks> linuxuz3r: Install "mesa-utils".
[23:59] <miceiken> zykotick9, was because it was already in the target folder
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> linuxuz3r: is the NTFS healthy? When you last unplugged it, did you use the safe remove feature in your OS or did you just rip it out?
[23:59] <miceiken> -n = dont overwrite