[00:25] <soliloquy1> I'd like to have both Unity and XFCE sessions available to me; can I do this without breaking Xubuntu?
[00:30] <Adm_Hartwell> I"m not an expert at all, but I think if you install ubuntu-desktop on top of xubuntu, you will have the option of choosing whichever desktop you want for that session at login. I'd like confirmation from one of the more experienced xubuntu users here though.
[00:33] <SeH> Hello; how to add layout in xubuntu!!
[00:33] <knome> can you elaborate what you mean with "layout" ?
[00:40] <SeH> knome: layout of language
[00:43] <David-A> SeH: keyboard layout (keyboard) or language settings (menus and messages)?
[00:43] <SeH> David-A: Keyboard!
[00:45] <David-A> settings>keyboard>layout>add
[00:48] <SeH> David-A: well how I can active alt + shift for change layout
[00:52] <David-A> SeH: there is a "Keyboard Layout" panel applet with where one can chose what key to switch layout. (have not tried it myself)
[00:53] <blackgatonegro> yup. every xubuntu has one
[00:54] <blackgatonegro> settings / settings  manager / keyboard
[00:55] <SeH> yes it worked thanks :)
[03:38] <decci> Hi Guys
[03:39] <decci> Anyone out there awaken
[03:39] <decci> :)
[03:39] <Murtaugh> Yes?
[03:40] <decci> Murtaugh: Hi
[03:40] <Murtaugh> have a question?
[03:40] <decci> Murtaugh: Yes
[03:40] <decci> Murtaugh: I have been following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupPC/smb
[03:41] <decci> Murtaugh: I have configured Backuppc and its working great for Windows and Linux smb shares
[03:41] <decci> Murtaugh: Now the link says It is advisiable to keep your clients (Hosts) on the same Domain. In this example it is "WORKGROUP"
[03:42] <decci> Murtaugh: I have few machine in different domain.so when I run smbtree -b -N it doesnt show Windows machine. What need to be done under that case?
[03:42] <Murtaugh> uh, that's a bit beyond me, but it sounds like #networking may be able to help
[04:34] <hanslanda> hello there! i have a problem..yesterday i made some updates and now my graphics card is not working (nvida geforce gt 430). Anyone can help me please??
[04:38] <hanslanda> hello there! i have a problem..yesterday i made some updates and now my graphics card is not working (nvida geforce gt 430). Anyone can help me please??
[04:41] <hanslanda> hello there! i have a problem..yesterday i made some updates and now my graphics card is not being recognize (nvida geforce gt 430). Anyone can help me please??
[04:53] <hanslanda> can anyone help me? im very new to linux... You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver.  Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[05:39] <[deXter]> Hi all
[05:40] <[deXter]> My WM stopped working suddently.. ie, no window decorations appear, I can't minimize/maximize the windows etc
[06:41] <TheSheep> [deXter]: press alt+f2 and type xfwm4
[06:43] <Ormie> HELP! Help me. When I type my password and click login. It takes A TERRIBLELY Long time to load until it shows me the desktop icons, background and the panels.
[06:43] <Ormie> Is this normal?
[06:43] <Ormie> I am running this on a core i5 processor
[06:44] <Artemis3> this sounds familiar
[06:45] <Ormie> ??????
[06:46] <Ormie> What?
[06:46] <Ormie> Just tell me it is normal or not
[06:46] <Artemis3> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/accountsservice/+bug/996791
[06:47] <Ormie> so it's a bug or it's a personal issue?
[06:48] <Artemis3> i have not experienced this on the 3 machines i use, but it appears to be a real bug
[06:49] <Ormie> k
[06:53] <Ormie> ok, fix this on 12.10
[08:24] <TheSheep> any recommendations for mtp device support?
[08:26] <knyn_> Can someone tell me why Xubuntu restarts whenever I tell it to shutdown?
[08:27] <Murtaugh> Are you using the -r flag :s
[08:28] <knyn_> Murtaugh: No I mean in XFCE, whenever I click on shutdown it restarts.
[08:28] <knyn_> I don't know...
[08:29] <Murtaugh> Oh, I normally do shutdowns/restarts from a terminal
[08:29] <knyn_> Maybe I should do that.
[08:29] <knyn_> What is the command to shutdown?
[08:29] <Murtaugh> try bringing up a terminal and using "sudo shutdown now" and seeing if it restarts itself
[08:30] <knyn_> Okay.
[08:30] <livingdaylight> shouldn't need to shutdown from a command unless you wish to. That is not normal.
[08:30] <Murtaugh> I just do for the heck of it
[08:30] <Murtaugh> since I don't very often
[08:30] <livingdaylight> Mine restarts/shutsdown fine according to which button I hit
[08:35] <knyn_> Murtaugh: It freezes.
[08:36] <well_laid_lawn> !find libmtp
[10:56] <wavm> guys what dock can u recommend? thnx
[11:21] <recon_lap> hi, setup openSSH on a local pc with a standard xubuntu 12.04 install. going to use it as a local server. it has the UI installed. now I'v been using "sudo halt" to shut it down when not in use, but it does not fully shutdown, the shutdown screen freezes and the PC stays on using power. it's not contactable but not off either. is this a bug, a pc issue or is there a better way to shut it down?
[11:23] <knome> recon_lap, have you tried 'shutdown -h now' ?
[11:23] <recon_lap> knome, no, but i will, thx :)
[11:25] <Ormie> 'lo
[11:25] <knome> hullo
[11:28] <Ormie> o/
[11:29] <recon_lap> 'shutdown -h now' work great, had to sudo it though
[11:29] <knome> recon_lap, sure :)
[11:30] <Sysi> poweroff is alias for that
[11:30] <Sysi> needs sudo too
[11:35] <recon_lap> thx, can't be wasting energy :)
[12:53] <Ormie> !xubuntu
[12:55] <Ormie> !gubuntu
[12:56] <aquix> !gobuntu
[12:56] <GridCube> g?
[12:56] <GridCube> O_o
[12:56] <aquix> hmm. ubottu also say crunchbang is based on ubuntu, so I think it's outdated
[12:57] <Ormie> hey, i liked xubuntu :)
[12:57] <GridCube> :D awesome
[12:57] <aquix> same here :)
[12:59] <GridCube> if you want to chat but you dont have any real problem please go to #xubuntu-offtopic
[13:01] <Ormie> a bug :)
[13:03] <Ormie> is it really important having your own chat channel instead of defocus?
[13:04] <GridCube> i dont understand
[13:04] <Ormie> oO
[13:04] <Ormie> you should... :q
[13:04] <aquix> lol
[13:05] <aquix> /join #xubuntu-offtopic
[13:05] <aquix> type that here
[13:06] <Ormie> k
[13:39] <phunyguy> hey folks, how do you get a global proxy set up in Xubuntu?
[13:39] <phunyguy> I can't find the option.
[13:41] <GridCube> phunyguy, temporarly or permanent?
[13:41] <phunyguy> perm.
[13:42] <phunyguy> socks4 included
[13:46] <GridCube> phunyguy, this should still be current: http://forums.legitreviews.com/about17852.html
[13:50] <phunyguy> GridCube: will that export line follow along with apt-get as well as the Xubuntu installer?
[13:57] <phunyguy> GridCube: will that export line follow along with apt-get as well as the Xubuntu installer?
[14:01] <GridCube> phunyguy, read the last post on that thread
[14:01] <GridCube> it says how to edit your apt configuration files
[14:02] <phunyguy>  /etc/apt/apt.conf doesnt exist.... lol
[14:03] <phunyguy> sounds like an awful lot of work for something that is a gui in reg ubuntu
[14:05] <phunyguy> ahh and i would sudo apt-get install mc if I COULD APT-GET ;)
[14:37] <phunyguy> ok so I fixed that.  Good to go.  Is there a pretty easy way to unclone both monitors without using xrandr and a script? or is that my option.  If so, can it be done for the login screen as well?
[14:44] <Ormie> hm... this is weird. My old installation of xubuntu, I have the bug of the system sleeps for 85 seconds after successfully entering my password on login. This time. I re-installed it. It doesn't happen :) Nice. The old installation i installed cheese and it gives me all the gnome junks.
[14:49] <blackgatonegro> anyone knows how to play pingus secret levels?
[15:03] <GridCube> never played that much :P
[16:13] <smed66> anyone on?
[16:14] <smed66> hello
[16:22] <smed66> what am i doin
[16:23] <GridCube> !hi | smed66
[16:54] <marcpv> hi! Anyone know why rhythmbox ask me for the password to unlock keyring when I just start it?
[16:56] <marcpv> anyone there?
[16:57] <Unit193> I am, but I last used that program in 6.10.
[16:58] <marcpv> haha... ok... any recomendation, then?
[16:58] <knome> can't imagine what for rhythmbox would ask for your password though
[16:58] <knome> maybe you'd have better results on #ubuntu
[16:59] <marcpv> knome: thanks, let me try there...
[16:59] <knome> (especially if you are certain it is rhythmbox needin the password)
[17:00] <Unit193> Can't you buy stuff online from that?
[17:00] <marcpv> gmusicbrowser is ok but i need podcast too and ipod suport, so I installed rhythmbox
[17:00] <marcpv> yes there is ubuntu one
[17:00] <marcpv> I think I'm sure its rhythmbox asking
[17:00] <knome> maybe it's asking the keyring pass for your U1 pass
[17:01] <marcpv> maybe yes... I dont know
[17:02] <marcpv> let me try on #ubuntu... I'll let you know
[17:11] <marcpv> by the way, any suggestion for audio player with podcast and ipod support?
[17:14] <Unit193> Audio player?  VLC supports podcasts. :P
[17:16] <martinphone> I theoretically have 4GB RAM, but htop, bios and sysinfo all say it is 3952, why?
[17:16] <marcpv> VLC support podcast?
[17:16] <Sysi> marcpv: 32bit xubuntu?
[17:16] <martinphone> and swap is 2043, shouldnt swap be 4048 too?
[17:16] <marcpv> 64bit
[17:16] <martinphone> 4098*
[17:17] <Sysi> swap partition's size doesn't change when adding RAM, you need to manually change partitioning if you need it
[17:17] <GridCube> martinphone, not if you didnt gave that much to swap during the install
[17:17] <martinphone> aaa...
[17:17] <Barnabas> martinphone, in windows swap is a file in a file system
[17:17] <martinphone> ill leave soon, low batteri
[17:18] <Barnabas> on linux it is, usually, a dedicated partition without a file system
[17:18] <martinphone> can I do that from BIOS?
[17:18] <Barnabas> martinphone, no
[17:18] <martinphone> but, why my 4GB RAM are 3952 and not 4098?
[17:19] <martinphone> 1024*4
[17:19] <martinphone> 4096*
[17:19] <marcpv> have to go, bye!
[17:19] <Barnabas> some of it used by system hw probably
[17:20] <martinphone> hw = ?
[17:20] <Barnabas> a GPU for instance, to tell for sure you need to post your hw spec on pastebin
[17:20] <Barnabas> and link here
[17:20] <martinphone> when I come back Barnabas
[17:20] <Barnabas> sure
[17:21] <phunyguy> wait, so Xubuntu 12.10 doesnt have a livecd yet?
[17:21] <martinphone> terminal hw? just that?
[17:21] <martinphone> brb
[17:22] <knome> phunyguy, it does.
[17:22] <knome> phunyguy, unfortunately, we're still oversized, so you should use some other media
[17:22] <phunyguy> I can only seem to find an alternate install image
[17:23] <knome> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/12.10/alpha-3/ for the alpha3
[17:23] <phunyguy> s'ok.  have 12.04 installed, I will just do-release-upgrade
[17:23] <knome> phunyguy, if you're looking at dailies, the desktop image is probably still building
[17:24] <phunyguy> thanks knome
[17:24] <phunyguy> cool nickname btw
[17:24] <phunyguy> its like gnome for kde!
[17:24] <knome> phunyguy, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/20120815/ for the daily-live
[17:24] <phunyguy> are you currently running the alpha build?
[17:24] <knome> i'm not
[17:24] <phunyguy> k.
[18:39] <martinphone> im back
[18:39] <martinphone> what was that hw command I had to paste Barnabas ?
[18:47] <martinphone> what commands other than  sudo dmidecode --type memory can give me a more complete description of my RAM? id accept gui suggestions too
[18:47] <martinphone> and, if I reinstall xubuntu, will it by default create a 4096 swap partition, now that I have 4GB RAM?
[18:50] <blackgatonegro> matin, will you format the hard disk?
[18:50] <blackgatonegro> *martin
[19:06] <martinphone> when I reinstall? didnt have it planned, no
[19:14] <GridCube> martinphone, you are thinking GB and reading GiB
[19:15] <martinphone> GB = 1024 MB, GiB = 1000 MB?
[19:15] <GridCube> GB is an unit made of powers of 10, and GiB is an unit made of powers of 2
[19:15] <martinphone> so the other way round, GB = 1000 MB, GiB = 1024 MB
[19:16] <GridCube> no
[19:16] <GridCube> oh, yes
[19:16] <martinphone> 10^3 = 1000
[19:16] <GridCube> here, read this: http://www.dr-lex.be/info-stuff/bytecalc.html
[19:16] <martinphone> 2¹0 = 1023
[19:16] <martinphone> hey, I wrote a super index
[19:17] <GridCube> :D yeah xchat does that :)
[19:17] <martinphone> 10³
[19:17] <martinphone> d⁵
[19:17] <GridCube> 2¹⁰
[19:18] <martinphone> cool link
[19:18] <GridCube> martinphone, you don *need* more swap
[19:19] <GridCube> in fact swap and ram can be what ever you want
[19:19] <GridCube> i have about 6gb of swap because a 6gb partition came with this computer for windows 7 backups, and i was to lazy to resize it
[19:30] <martinphone> htop's RAM bar is frozen, it doens change like the core bar does, furthermore: I now use 1500/3952, but the bar occupies more than that percentage, close to 80% of the bar extension, why?
[19:31] <Unit193> free -m|grep cache
[19:33] <TheSheep> martinphone: linux always uses almost all ram -- when it's not used by application, it's used for caching and buffers
[19:50] <martinphone> I have a 365 GB HDD in my laptop and a 1 TB HDD I wish to put in its place, in the laptop. Is there any way I can make an exact copy of all directories present in the 365 GB HDD to the 1 TB HDD, first as an external hard drive just to take it out from the case, and in the laptop?
[19:51] <martinphone> and put it in the laptop*
[19:51] <martinphone> so there is no difference when I reboot with the 1TB HDD in the laptop
[19:56] <shpank> yes
[19:56] <shpank> boot the laptop with a live cd
[19:56] <shpank> unmount your internal drive and your external hdd
[19:57] <shpank> copy everything with dd if=/dev/internal_hdd of=/dev/external_hdd
[19:57] <shpank> then replace the drive in your laptop
[19:57] <shpank> and try booting it
[19:57] <shpank> if it doesn't work, just fire up gparted or fdisk and play around with the partition table
[19:58] <Sysi> dd isn't good for hdd, it copies all bad blocks too, use ddrescue or just copy all files and install grub from livecd
[19:59] <Sysi> you need to fix fstab to match new partition UUIDS
[20:01] <shpank> i didn't assume he has bad blocks on his hdd
[20:01] <shpank> but in this case, ddrescue is better, yes.
[20:02] <shpank> Sysi: if he copies the entire drive (including mbr and partition table), it should work without changing uuids
[20:03] <Sysi> shpank: partition table expands automatically, changing uuids
[20:03] <shpank> oh
[20:03] <shpank> so in this case
[20:03] <shpank> yeah
[20:03] <shpank> but it's not a big problem
[20:04] <Sysi> or actually I'm not sure.. I did this once but it was a while ago
[20:04] <shpank> i hate this uuid thing
[20:04] <shpank> you can't remember them
[20:05] <shpank> or distinguish between different partitions just by looking at the uuids
[20:05] <Sysi> I seldom change partitioning scheme, when I do I probably reinstall
[20:07] <shpank> yeah me too
[20:08] <shpank> i always try new stuff and to avoid compatibility problems, i usually take the lame route and wipe the system :)
[20:08] <shpank> also, it feels so much better working on a fresh install without all the crap that i've introduced before
[20:09] <xuserr> hello
[21:40] <martinphone> hello, I have just installed nvidia drivers from the repo, but it happened what happened last time I used nvidia: splashscreen's logo now occupies the whole screen, and looks blurry, can I fix that= return splash's screen to its original size?
[21:41] <martinphone> also for the splash screen while closing the OS
[22:00] <martinphone> does it have to do with grub?
[22:07] <recon_lap> grub?
[22:57] <malv1> now i can say that i am not aware of any xfce bugs
[22:58] <malv1> first time i can say that about any linux de
[23:19] <David-A> malv1: Dont kid yourself, there is one bug: The Xfce Timer panel applet does not show if timer is on or off unless mouse is on it. (If by design, its a usability bug)
[23:22] <recon_lap> there is the earphone bug as well, probably nothing to do with xface though
[23:24] <recon_lap> David-A: timper panel applet shows all the time for me
[23:26] <recon_lap> David-A: maybe we talking about different applets though
[23:31] <David-A> David-A: its called "Xfce4 Timer", I have xfce 4.6.1 (xfce4-timer-plugin 0.6.1) so maybe has improved
[23:33] <recon_lap> David-A: guess I got the wrong applet, was thinking of the date-time applet