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shadeslayerI have no idea why he has a ui file in there00:03
shadeslayercrazy people I tell you00:04
ScottKapachelogger_: What release is the fix you committed for https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=296944 included in?01:02
ubottuKDE bug 296944 in Contacts resource "Possible data loss if the destination folder doesn't exists" [Critical,Resolved: fixed]01:02
valorieyay for JontheEchidna!02:31
JontheEchidnathanks :)02:31
valorieis quantal alpha really stable enough to use right now?02:31
valorieI see that Mamarok is already in it02:31
JontheEchidnayeah, it's probably past the catasrophic failure point02:32
valorieapachelogger_ told me to install the quantal cmake, so I wonder if just upgrading now makes sense02:32
JontheEchidnalike when dpkg broke before quantal alpha02:32
valoriemaybe I should do a backup first02:32
valorieI guess that's always wise02:32
JontheEchidnaI ended up removing every package trying to fix dpkg :P02:33
valorieI'm not always wise02:33
valorieyou are the guy to do that though!02:33
valorieI'm so happy to see the team getting so much support02:33
valorieKDE and Kubuntu are gonna rock02:33
valorieoh, is the datacenter move going to affect the upgrade files?02:39
JontheEchidnawell, just that build times for PPA packages are now upwards of a day02:40
valoriewowzers02:41
valoriemaybe after the move they will be snappier?02:41
valorieI assume the sysadmins are doing some improvements as they do the move02:41
JontheEchidnaone can hope ;-)02:42
valoriesure02:42
valorieI hang out in the kde sysadmin chan, and they are awesome02:42
valoriein general, I have the utmost respect for sysadmins02:42
valoriethey are much under-appreciated02:42
JontheEchidnaagreed02:52
JontheEchidna2 and a quarter years ago I did some IT interning02:52
JontheEchidnait can be a bit stressfull02:52
ScottKI once took a four how maintenance window to do a hard drive change on a system.  I figured it was a 30 minute job, but being cautious, I scheduled more than I needed.02:53
ScottKI got the whole thing together and discovered that the hard drive controller I had with the disk drives I had, wouldn't work with whatever Linux kernel I had.02:54
ScottKFortunately, I had a stack of parts for a new server I was going to build soon.02:55
ScottKI turned to that, built the new box, installed Ubuntu Server, configured all the services, and had it in operation just before the 4 hour window ended.02:55
JontheEchidnanice02:55
ScottKActually it wasn't supposed to be a new server.  It was supposed to be a new desktop for my wife.02:56
ScottKNot the most pleasant conversation we've ever had when she got home from work that day.02:56
ScottKShe understood, but wasn't thrilled.02:57
JontheEchidnamy mother doesn't like computer maintenance. she always blames new problems on the previous repair.02:57
JontheEchidnamy dad would set her up with Linux since he hates doing windows maintenance, but she needs proprietary finance apps for accounting stuff she does...02:58
JontheEchidnathere was one time in the late 90's when my dad introduced her to xboing and a jewel-stacking tetris clone on one of the old Redhat releases.03:01
JontheEchidnaShe got addicted to those, and as a result dual-booted linux for a whlie03:01
JontheEchidna(she loves facebook games these days)03:01
valorieshe can always run win in a VM03:18
valoriefor the accounting apps03:18
valorieok, should update the netbook so I have a standby computer, do the backups and then the upgrade03:19
valoriebbiab03:19
nixternalJontheEchidna: RE: proprietary finance apps - the 2 top ones, Peachtree & Quickbooks, both have web based versions that work just fine with Linux, and are actually better than the client versions03:37
nixternali use quickbooks myself, w/o a single windows computer on my network03:37
JontheEchidnanixternal: it's for a church, the division of which the church belongs to paid one of their kids to make some crappy software in what's probably VB.NET.03:38
JontheEchidnanepotism + church = bad software03:39
nixternalhahahahaha, now that sucks03:39
nixternalfigured it was one of the only 2 that are any good03:39
JontheEchidnaotherwise she uses Quickbooks03:39
JontheEchidnalol03:39
nixternali have tried all of the open source ones out there. they don't even compare03:39
nixternali would rather be stricken with a lifetime of windows 3.1 than have to use an opensource accounting solution03:40
nixternali swear, open source accounting and project management apps are so over engineered it isn't even funny. just google open source project management & have fun. crm is the same as well03:41
JontheEchidnaspeaking of windows 3.1, she used Quicken back then on Windows 3.1. Made this memorable beep whenever she would enter something03:42
JontheEchidnabobeep!03:42
nixternalhahaha03:43
JontheEchidnaprobably used the system bell to do that03:43
* ScottK waves to nixternal .05:22
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1038363] Audex Crashes on any attempt to edit rip profiles @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1038363 (by GlassGhost)06:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1038363 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Audex Crashes on any attempt to edit rip profiles" [Undecided,New]06:42
* nixternal waves back to ScottK 18:10
shadeslayerd__ed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule19:18
shadeslayerI think you shouldn't exceed UserInterfaceFreeze, try and target Feature Freeze though19:19
d__edlegend, I was shown this before (then promptly forgot)19:36
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mparilloIs it common for companies to block irc ports from work computers? I was able to use http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#kubuntu-devel, but not Quassel.20:36
mparilloor is it not my company's network, but this item in the freenode FAQ ...21:06
mparilloOpen proxies are blocked because they are often used as gateways to the network for disruptive behavior that is difficult to stop. There is nothing to uniquely identify a proxied user. For VPNs and similar anonymizing services we can (and do) mitigate this by requiring SASL. This allows a user to voluntarily provide a unique identifier that can be used to mitigate abuse if necessary. 21:06
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1004593] LFE disappears on 5.1, 4.0 has LFE channel, high pitched squeals (bit shifting?), several ... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1004593 (by Abraham Mara)21:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1004593 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "LFE disappears on 5.1, 4.0 has LFE channel, high pitched squeals (bit shifting?), several versions" [Undecided,Opinion]21:18
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valoriemparillo: probably best to ask in a freenode staff channel22:26
valorieyou can /msg alis list *freenode* to get a list of chans22:27
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mparillovalorie: TY23:01
gotwighey, how can I install kde4 devel libraries?23:18
gotwigkdelibs5-dev ?23:21
JontheEchidnagotwig: that will be the most basic ones, yes. What are you trying to build?23:22
gotwigdragon player 3..23:23
JontheEchidnaok.I don't know what additional development libraries that will need23:23
JontheEchidnabut if an application is already packaged, you can run "sudo apt-get build-dep packagename"23:23
JontheEchidnanot too much help since dragon3 isn't packaged tho :P23:24
gotwigeven its libraries are not packaged yet.23:24
gotwigdude, I just need g++ xD23:38
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