[01:07] micahg: How about PyQt? [01:08] It could be a suggests. [02:17] micahg: How about doing it with Ecere? ;) [17:59] is there any community servers around i can use as test bed for Ubuntu packaging ? [18:03] codemaniac: why can't you use your own machine? [18:04] I think members get time limited free access to some HP cloud which you could use [18:05] Hello! Does anybody know when Intel GMA3600 drivers are released for Ubuntu? I found this: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/cedarview-graphics-drivers/precise-proposed [18:05] i actually dont have permanent access to Ubuntu system . :| [18:06] jtaylor: can i get a limited access to start with packaging . [18:06] I don't think so [18:06] amazon offers a micro instance free for a year [18:06] but its probably to slow for packaging [18:07] jtaylor: do i always need a development release for packaging ? [18:07] codemaniac: no, you don't even need to use ubuntu [18:07] codemaniac: though a debian based distro helps [18:07] thats great [18:08] i have a debian server , but no root access , will that help [18:08] codemaniac: no you do need root :/ [18:08] i can contact the admin s though if required [18:12] codemaniac: can't you use a virtual machine on your local machine? [18:17] ok [18:18] jtaylor: i have managed a Ubuntu server with root access , will that help [18:18] do we need GUI tools for packaging [18:19] So far i have not read about any GUI tool son MOTU docs . [18:19] there are guis, but they are generally not recommended [18:20] if you want to package seriously you must learn the command line tools [18:21] jtaylor: i am quite familiar with linux commandline and native unix tools [18:21] jtaylor: do i need to upgrade the server version to 12.10 [18:22] precise has been installed over it right now [18:22] codemaniac: no, you can use pbuilder-dist to create 12.10 working environment [18:23] pbuilder-dist quantal amd64 create [18:24] jtaylor: wow , sounds like all set up to go , thanks i will drop by hee sometimes [18:24] s/hee/here [18:25] i would also like to subscribe for the mailing-list === codemaniac is now known as arry [19:24] If cousteau comes around again, I am not responsible for the uptime of the system, only for the codebase. :) [19:25] Ah, xnox jumped in. [19:26] Rhonda: I remember somebody came back from vacation and was replying to backlogs [19:26] Rhonda: Oh, you own that codebase now? [19:27] "pers-1: oh this is a horrible bug", half an hour later "pers-2: oooh this might fix", 10 minutes later "pers-3: thanks for taking care of that" [19:27] almost wants me to say read *all* the scrollback before replying =) [19:31] nigelb: Who "owns" a git repository? :) [19:32] heh [19:32] whoever has a last commit? :D [19:32] But I have access to deploy on the system, if that's what you mean. [19:34] Rhonda: ooh it's back! =) [19:37] That's neither my fault, xnox ;) [20:09] this is UNFAIR! [20:09] why was the package nvidia-173 fixed but not nvidia-96? [20:09] (and, could it be fixed in the same way the -173 was?) [20:11] cousteau: what do you mean by "fixed"? [20:11] cousteau: marked to be incompatible? [20:11] xnox, a broken dependency has been replaced by a working one [20:12] xorg-video-abi-10 by xorg-video-abi-11 [20:12] (I think) [20:12] ps: I'm talking about precise [20:13] (not sure if this was fixed quite long ago) [20:31] cousteau: Hey. Btw., I can do nothing about server not reachable or down. I am only behind the codebase tinkering. :) [20:31] I'm not in the canonical sysadmin team (unfortunately) [20:33] ok, good to know... thanks anyway :) [22:05] * ajmitch looks up & sees complaints about binary drivers [22:14] * xnox .oO(the complaints look down on ajmitch) [22:15] probably [22:15] it's not like we can do a lot about old binary drivers :) [22:18] I was really surprised to see that nouveau works very well on that one 3D game that I occasionally play. I'm happy to see that moving away from proprietary (totally) is again a little closer. :) === TheDrums is now known as Guest72835