[01:07] <ScottK> micahg: How about PyQt?
[01:08] <ScottK> It could be a suggests.
[02:17] <ESphynx> micahg: How about doing it with Ecere? ;)
[17:59] <codemaniac> is there any community servers around i can use as test bed for Ubuntu packaging ?
[18:03] <jtaylor> codemaniac: why can't you use your own machine?
[18:04] <jtaylor> I think members get time limited free access to some HP cloud which you could use
[18:05] <Kihokki> Hello! Does anybody know when Intel GMA3600 drivers are released for Ubuntu? I found this: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/cedarview-graphics-drivers/precise-proposed
[18:05] <codemaniac> i actually dont have permanent access to Ubuntu system . :|
[18:06] <codemaniac> jtaylor: can i get a limited access to start with packaging .
[18:06] <jtaylor> I don't think so
[18:06] <jtaylor> amazon offers a micro instance free for a year
[18:06] <jtaylor> but its probably to slow for packaging
[18:07] <codemaniac> jtaylor: do i always need a development release for packaging ?
[18:07] <jtaylor> codemaniac: no, you don't even need to use ubuntu
[18:07] <jtaylor> codemaniac: though a debian based distro helps
[18:07] <codemaniac> thats great
[18:08] <codemaniac> i have a debian server , but no root access , will that help
[18:08] <jtaylor> codemaniac: no you do need root :/
[18:08] <codemaniac> i can contact the admin s though if required
[18:12] <jtaylor> codemaniac: can't you use a virtual machine on your local machine?
[18:17] <codemaniac> ok
[18:18] <codemaniac> jtaylor: i have managed a Ubuntu server with root access , will that help
[18:18] <codemaniac> do we need GUI tools for packaging
[18:19] <codemaniac> So far i have not read about any GUI tool son MOTU docs .
[18:19] <jtaylor> there are guis, but they are generally not recommended
[18:20] <jtaylor> if you want to package seriously you must learn the command line tools
[18:21] <codemaniac> jtaylor: i am quite familiar with linux commandline and native unix tools
[18:21] <codemaniac> jtaylor: do i need to upgrade the server version to 12.10
[18:22] <codemaniac> precise has been installed over it right now
[18:22] <jtaylor> codemaniac: no, you can use pbuilder-dist to create 12.10 working environment
[18:23] <jtaylor> pbuilder-dist quantal amd64 create
[18:24] <codemaniac> jtaylor: wow , sounds like all set up to go , thanks i will drop by hee sometimes
[18:24] <codemaniac> s/hee/here
[18:25] <codemaniac> i would also like to subscribe for the mailing-list
[19:24] <Rhonda> If cousteau comes around again, I am not responsible for the uptime of the system, only for the codebase. :)
[19:25] <Rhonda> Ah, xnox jumped in.
[19:26] <xnox> Rhonda: I remember somebody came back from vacation and was replying to backlogs
[19:26] <nigelb> Rhonda: Oh, you own that codebase now?
[19:27] <xnox> "pers-1: oh this is a horrible bug", half an hour later "pers-2: oooh this might fix", 10 minutes later "pers-3: thanks for taking care of that"
[19:27] <xnox> almost wants me to say read *all* the scrollback before replying =)
[19:31] <Rhonda> nigelb: Who "owns" a git repository? :)
[19:32] <nigelb> heh
[19:32] <nigelb> whoever has a last commit? :D
[19:32] <Rhonda> But I have access to deploy on the system, if that's what you mean.
[19:34] <xnox> Rhonda: ooh it's back! =)
[19:37] <Rhonda> That's neither my fault, xnox ;)
[20:09] <cousteau> this is UNFAIR!
[20:09] <cousteau> why was the package nvidia-173 fixed but not nvidia-96?
[20:09] <cousteau> (and, could it be fixed in the same way the -173 was?)
[20:11] <xnox> cousteau: what do you mean by "fixed"?
[20:11] <xnox> cousteau: marked to be incompatible?
[20:11] <cousteau> xnox, a broken dependency has been replaced by a working one
[20:12] <cousteau> xorg-video-abi-10 by xorg-video-abi-11
[20:12] <cousteau> (I think)
[20:12] <cousteau> ps: I'm talking about precise
[20:13] <cousteau> (not sure if this was fixed quite long ago)
[20:31] <Rhonda> cousteau: Hey.  Btw., I can do nothing about server not reachable or down.  I am only behind the codebase tinkering. :)
[20:31] <Rhonda> I'm not in the canonical sysadmin team (unfortunately)
[20:33] <cousteau> ok, good to know...  thanks anyway  :)
[22:05]  * ajmitch looks up & sees complaints about binary drivers
[22:14]  * xnox .oO(the complaints look down on ajmitch)
[22:15] <ajmitch> probably
[22:15] <ajmitch> it's not like we can do a lot about old binary drivers :)
[22:18] <astraljava> I was really surprised to see that nouveau works very well on that one 3D game that I occasionally play. I'm happy to see that moving away from proprietary (totally) is again a little closer. :)