[01:12] <chris4585> last time I upgraded a miracle happened and recovered my encrypted /home while before I couldn't access it
[02:35] <wrst> netritious: is it working? :)
[02:35] <netritious> not as well as the first upgrade, but not to bad that I can tell yet.
[02:36] <netritious> although I did have to fsck an lvm managed partition that's 1TB :/
[02:36] <netritious> after the 12.04 upgrade
[02:37] <netritious> not blaming that on the upgrade...could have been anything I guess.
[02:38] <netritious> the drives aren't exactly new anymore wrst
[02:38] <wrst> hmm but it is working?
[02:39] <netritious> about to find out
[02:40] <wrst> hope so :)
[02:40] <wrst> 8.04 to 10.04 to 12.04 in one day is asking a lot :)
[02:40] <wrst> that's four years worth!
[02:42] <netritious> I think I see what happened. For some reason SEC_TYPE="ext2" was assigned to the /dev/vg/lv
[02:43] <netritious> that doesn't seem right to me
[02:45] <wrst> LVM confuses me
[02:46] <netritious> well I fsck'ed it because ubuntu kept telling me it was going to after reboot, but never really seemed to do the check
[02:48] <netritious> now it's complaining about something else :/
[02:49] <netritious> but everythign seems to be working
[02:49] <netritious> *everything
[02:49] <wrst> sounds like being married everything can be fine yet the significant other complains :)
[02:50] <netritious> exactly
[02:52] <netritious> Linux 3.2.0-29-generic-pae #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:25:43 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[02:53] <wrst> nice
[02:53] <RagnarokAngel> It's friday night, the channel must be hopping, amirite?
[02:53] <wrst> greeetings RagnarokAngel
[02:53] <RagnarokAngel> hey wrst
[02:53] <wrst> of course :)
[02:54] <wrst> actually i'm hopping to bed, goodnight RagnarokAngel, netritious
[02:54] <RagnarokAngel> 'night wrst
[02:54] <netritious> night wrst
[02:54] <netritious> hello RagnarokAngel
[02:54] <RagnarokAngel> hey netritious
[02:54] <RagnarokAngel> how's things?
[02:57] <netritious> ok, you?
[02:58] <RagnarokAngel> school's about to start
[02:58] <RagnarokAngel> again
[02:59] <netritious> could be worse, right?
[02:59] <RagnarokAngel> yeah
[03:00] <RagnarokAngel> I'm tired of going to school
[03:00] <RagnarokAngel> but it's not awful
[03:04] <RagnarokAngel> somehow azure ray and beer doesn't make it better...
[03:07] <netritious> lol
[03:09] <RagnarokAngel> I swear I have one of the most depressing collections of music
[04:51] <binarymutant>  wooo new laptop
[04:54] <chris4585> binarymutant, whoo~
[04:55] <binarymutant> whoo
[04:55] <chris4585> binarymutant, retired your old one?
[04:56] <binarymutant> yep, no more nvidia bugs
[04:56] <binarymutant> this is what I have now http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF06b/321957-321957-64295-3740645-4307559-4097189-4097193-4307958.html?dnr=1
[04:58] <chris4585> nice, but I don't think I've heard of that chipset before
[04:58] <binarymutant> i5?
[04:59] <chris4585> nvidia
[04:59] <chris4585> NVIDIA Quadro FX 380M graphics with 512 MB gDDR3 dedicated video memory
[04:59] <chris4585> I'm not familiar with that series
[04:59] <binarymutant> oh I had a quadro 135m in the previous laptop
[05:00] <binarymutant> this ones nice, and no bugs with the nvidia driver
[05:01] <chris4585> ah, good, my ancient mobo had an 6150s nvidia, my laptop 8600 gt? my old pooped video card was a nvidia 220 gt... this mobo has radeon 4250 I think
[05:01] <chris4585> lol
[05:01] <chris4585> I like nvidia overall, but radeon's drivers aren't that bad
[05:01] <binarymutant> yeah nvidia tends to drop cards. idk if ati does though
[05:01] <binarymutant> chris4585: are you still on arch?
[05:01] <chris4585> yeah
[05:02] <binarymutant> did you update today? The latest kernel didn't work for me :/
[05:03] <chris4585> I did update the kernel but I don't ever boot the normal kernels, I can if you'd like
[05:03] <binarymutant> nah that's alright
[05:03] <binarymutant> I'm sure it'll get fixed
[05:03] <binarymutant> I'm on 3.4.9 right now
[05:04] <chris4585> /exec -o uname -a
[05:04] <chris4585> er
[05:04] <chris4585> Linux archbang 3.4.4-3-pae #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jul 14 22:25:24 EDT 2012 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:04] <chris4585> I'm a little outdated but I don't really need to use the latest
[05:05] <binarymutant> ah ok
[05:06] <chris4585> building a kernel takes like forever
[05:06] <chris4585> lol
[05:06] <binarymutant> you compile your own?
[05:06] <binarymutant> wow
[05:06] <chris4585> well no, aur does
[05:06] <binarymutant> same thing
[05:06] <chris4585> but it does all the compiling and it takes forever
[05:06] <binarymutant> I bet, I wouldn't do it
[05:07] <chris4585> lol, I have to for pae :(
[05:07] <binarymutant> pae is for more than 8gb right?
[05:07] <chris4585> more than 4gbs
[05:07] <binarymutant> hmm I wonder if I need to do pae now..
[05:08] <chris4585> how much ram do you have?
[05:08] <binarymutant> idk, and I'm ashamed to admit it but idk how to find out..
[05:09] <chris4585> ubuntu has the pae kernel already built as a binary package? and auto detects if you need the pae kernel and does it with no input so that is nice
[05:09] <binarymutant> looks like 3gb
[05:09] <chris4585> well top or htop could tell you?
[05:09] <binarymutant> yeah
[05:09] <binarymutant> I just realized that
[05:10] <binarymutant> 3gb seems an odd number..
[05:10] <chris4585> yeah, a little, I like even numbers
[05:11] <binarymutant> ah maybe I can add the ram from the previous laptop
[05:11] <chris4585> it looks like a nice little laptop, slightly better than mine, but mine is like 5 years old now
[05:12] <chris4585> I would rather have a i5 than my centrino...
[05:12] <chris4585> yeah thats way better than mine lol
[05:12] <chris4585> mine gets way too hot when watching flash
[05:12] <binarymutant> man ddr3
[05:13] <binarymutant> chris4585: yeah I had to buy one of those laptop fans
[05:13] <binarymutant> I think it was less than 15 at walmart
[05:13] <chris4585> if I had to use mine more like a stationary desktop I definitely would too
[05:13] <chris4585> ah
[05:14] <binarymutant> can I put a ddr2 stick in a ddr3 slot?
[05:15] <binarymutant> nvm, it's a no
[05:15] <chris4585> I don't think so, but ddr3 is cheap
[05:15] <binarymutant> cheap like free?
[05:15] <chris4585> I think for an 8gb kit it was like $30 - $40 depending
[05:16] <chris4585> lol
[05:16] <chris4585> 16gb kits are like $70 - $80
[05:16] <binarymutant> that's not that bad
[05:16] <chris4585> that is for desktop though I'm not sure about laptop ram
[05:16] <chris4585> yeah ram was surprisingly cheap
[05:17] <binarymutant> newegg puts laptop ram right around 50$ ... idk maybe I can find some ddr3 somewhere
[05:17] <binarymutant> not like I need it, 3Gb is awesome right now
[05:18] <chris4585> lol yeah
[05:19] <chris4585> I don't ever get close to 4gbs on linux, only if I have some serious program like gimp running with a file resolution of like 5,000x5,000 and several layers
[05:20] <chris4585> thats with like 80 tabs open in chromium, I only ever use like 2.5gbs or near 3gbs which is about 35% of ram
[05:20] <binarymutant> 5kx5k holy crap
[05:20] <binarymutant> jeeze you push yours to the limit
[05:20] <chris4585> 5kx5k for like vectoring or something
[05:20] <chris4585> vector art is beautiful...
[05:21] <binarymutant> like svg?
[05:21] <chris4585> yeah
[05:22] <chris4585> I haven't done that in a while
[05:22] <binarymutant> have you used gimp2.8/
[05:22] <binarymutant> ?
[05:23] <binarymutant> it's freaking awesome. 1 window :D
[05:24] <chris4585> yeah, its alright, I like the nice additions beside the single window, because I kind of like moving the smaller windows while I do work some, so the multiple windows don't bother me
[05:25] <binarymutant> plus your on openbox
[05:25] <binarymutant> man pre2.8 gimp was horrible on tiling window managers
[05:25] <chris4585> what do you mean?
[05:25] <chris4585> openbox = non tiling?
[05:25] <chris4585> gotcha
[05:25] <binarymutant> yeah openbox is a floating
[05:25] <binarymutant> ehwm or whatever it's called
[05:25] <chris4585> I couldn't imagine using it on tiling
[05:26] <binarymutant> ewhm*
[05:26] <binarymutant> it was unbearable, 2.8 rocks though
[05:27] <chris4585> yeah :)
[05:28] <binarymutant> I think you can make it multiple windows still
[05:28] <chris4585> yeah, you can
[05:28] <chris4585> which is awesome, I love gimp
[05:29] <binarymutant> yeah, it's a must have
[05:30] <chris4585> yeah, I honestly have issues using other programs because I'm so used to gimp, photoshop I still don't know how to do half the things I know I can do in gimp
[05:30] <chris4585> paint.net is a good windows alternative though
[05:31] <binarymutant> never heard of it :/
[05:32] <chris4585> http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/freesoftware/ig/Free-Graphics-Software/Paint-NET.htm
[05:33] <chris4585> its pretty good, the filters and effects are better than default gimp I think
[05:33] <binarymutant> hm, idk I'll stick with gimp
[05:33] <chris4585> well, they both have their good points I suppose
[05:33] <binarymutant> can paint.net use photoshop brushes and gradients and stuff/
[05:34] <chris4585> possibly, I'm not sure it can import psn/psd files and export them
[05:36] <binarymutant> hm, if I'm ever on windows again I'll try it out
[05:37] <netritious> nice upgrade binarymutant :)
[05:37] <binarymutant> yeah man, it's waay faster
[05:37] <netritious> might want to check out that you aren't using triple-channel memory before upgrading.
[05:38] <binarymutant> what's that?
[05:38] <binarymutant> and how?
[05:38] <netritious> makes ram faster
[05:38] <netritious> more bandwidth
[05:38] <netritious> look at the hardware specs
[05:38] <binarymutant> just says 4 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 SDRAM
[05:39] <netritious> it shoudl tell you. I mean, it could be that you have 1x 1GB chip and 1x 2GB chip
[05:39] <binarymutant> maybe, I haven't opened up that part yet
[05:39] <binarymutant> I've never heard of a 3gb stick so prolly
[05:39] <netritious> easiest way to find out is pop off the memory access panel on the laptop
[05:40] <binarymutant> :D  I know how to check it
[05:40] <netritious> :D
[05:40] <binarymutant> the screwdriver is in the other room and I'm being lazy, plus it's 2am here
[05:41] <netritious> lol
[05:41] <netritious> nothing wrong with that
[05:41] <netritious> just upgraded from 8.04 to 10.04 to 12.04 on a 12 year old (BIOS date says 2000) server
[05:41] <binarymutant> whoa
[05:41] <binarymutant> still good/
[05:41] <binarymutant> ?
[05:41] <netritious> been running 8.04 on it for a few years now
[05:41] <netritious> everything seems fine
[05:42] <binarymutant> pretty cool
[05:42] <binarymutant> no Xorg right?
[05:42] <netritious> had a few hiccups but nothing serious
[05:42] <netritious> nope
[05:42] <binarymutant> yeah it should be good forever
[05:43] <chris4585> nice netritious
[05:43] <netritious> ubuntu did all the work. I just had the guts chris4585 XD
[05:43] <binarymutant> I can't even think of anything ubuntu could do on Server Edition to bump up system requirements...
[05:44] <netritious> i had plenty of contingencies if things went wrong. it was in the works to retire the system this year, or early next year
[05:45] <binarymutant> you got another one lined up or something?
[05:45] <netritious> yeah, well for the disks anyway.
[05:45] <netritious> 4x 1TB WD Green drives
[05:45] <binarymutant> !
[05:46] <binarymutant> I need that
[05:46] <netritious> the system drive is IDE 160GB but only b/c the server wouldn't work at all without an IDE drive
[05:46] <binarymutant> yeah I was just wondering when sata came out
[05:46] <netritious> ancient hardware in this thing binarymutant lol...
[05:46] <netritious> chris4585 and I were chatting about it earlier today
[05:47] <binarymutant> where do you guys go for cheap hardware? like hdd
[05:50] <netritious> binarymutant: I haven't bought any drives in over a year, but typically newegg
[05:50] <binarymutant> nvm, 1tb is still around 100$ :(
[05:50] <netritious> although lately they seem way overpriced
[05:50] <binarymutant> by the time I get a Tb everyone will be onto Pb
[05:50] <netritious> yeah if my drives hold out then I will be waiting until next year when prices are expected to go back to normal
[05:51] <netritious> nah....if so only in the cloud binarymutant
[05:51] <netritious> going to catch some z's...later
[05:52] <binarymutant> night
[06:24] <chris4585> binarymutant, there is tigerdirect and ncix, I also like frozencpu
[06:24] <binarymutant> chris4585: thanks, I'll have to hold out, hdds are too expensive
[06:24] <chris4585> besides newegg, sometimes newegg isn't the cheapest
[06:26] <chris4585> it seems everyone in my house need hard drives, I need one for my tv comp, my parents need one for a upgrade, my brother needs one for more ps3 space, my friend needs one for his xbox lol
[06:26] <binarymutant> lols
[06:27] <chris4585> but some things can be switched up if I could just upgrade my parents hdd for our other new comp I could get extra space on my tv comp
[06:27] <binarymutant> yeah thats what I do
[06:29] <chris4585> its kind of funny, one computer gets and upgrade and it causes a cascading affect
[06:29] <binarymutant> yeah
[06:29] <binarymutant> the hand me down line
[06:31] <chris4585> I really want to upgrade my tv comp to a newer slimmer case but I'm saving up for a tv instead :< and $50 for a slimmer case is almost ridiculous
[06:31] <chris4585> but the thing I hate is usually you have to buy a slimmer psu with the case too :/
[06:32] <binarymutant> raspberry pi
[06:34] <binarymutant> course they take 10 freaking weeks to get delivered
[06:34] <chris4585> lol
[19:41] <wrst> wb chris4585
[19:41] <chris4585> thanks wrst
[19:42] <Unit193> Didn't welcome back ChanServ?  Or ubuntulog?
[19:44] <wrst> Unit193: i welcome back ChanServ more than i care to admit to!
[19:47] <netritious> Unit193: that's because wrst loves ChanServ but is afraid to admit it.
[19:48] <netritious> i think it's robophobia but not certain
[19:48] <Unit193> His wife wouldn't be happy to learn this...
[19:51] <netritious> wrst should give us channel ops Unit193 so we don't tell
[19:52] <Unit193> I'm good with that.
[19:52] <wrst> don't see why that would hurt actually :)
[19:52] <Unit193> :P
[19:52] <netritious> lol lovin' ChanServ never hurt anyone
[19:56] <Unit193> Would you like to listen to my pandora station with me? :D
[19:57] <Unit193> Now Playing: The Vitamin String Quartet - Boulevard Of Broken Dreams
[20:04] <chris4585> wrst, lol