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linuxuz3rntfs is healthy00:00
linuxuz3rmesa utils ok00:00
linuxuz3ralso when im in gnome 3 2d i the taskbar and menu bar of my second monitor gets transfered to the primary display how do i move it to the secondary display00:02
Atranimushttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzlljWKun_s00:03
xand_hi all00:04
mwilliams1220Is there a way to make a program start from the cl minimized?00:05
sdzHow can I specify the monitor for initial kernel output, framebuffer, console, etc?  (fyi: X works fine)00:06
coldpizza72iCould someone help me setup an nfs server... Im having many problems00:10
zykotick9sdz: are your VT consoles (ctrl-alt F1-F6) mirrored the same on all your monitors or only on 1?   (that's how mine are right now - mirrored, each showing the login window. different distro/release then you though).  if you get an answer, i'd please share with the channel ;)00:10
linuxuz3ralso when im in gnome 3 2d i the taskbar and menu bar of my second monitor gets transfered to the primary display how do i move it to the secondary display00:11
l3dwas wondering if there is a way to turn off the hold the super key done popup cheatsheet?00:11
davidl<LookupTable cacheSize="1000" commitInterval="100" fileURL="${DATATMP_DIR}/INT001_Poc_Extra_lookup" id="LookupTable4" key="org_id;poc_type" metadata="Metadata14" name="POC_EXTRA_LOOKUP" pageSize="16" type="persistentLookup"/>00:12
davidl(sorry)00:12
davidlI just upgraded Jaunty to Lucid on a Compaq Presario F700 laptop,  now the keyboard & mouse don't work with the X server ... any suggestions?00:12
davidl(that is,  I can SSH in fine,  and if I shut down gdm/kdm I can log in at the console,  but i can't log in via either gdm or kdm becuase me mouse and keyboard don't do anything)00:14
sdzzykotick9: On bootup and the console (tty's), I only get output on my smaller monitor.  I want it on my other monitor.  I have no issues with monitors in X.00:14
zykotick9davidl: good luck.  you're gonna need it.  upgrading an EOL distro to 10.04 (which i doubt many in this channel run anymore) seems very outdated for #ubuntu00:15
zykotick9sdz: ya i recall i only see initial boot on 1 monitor, also.  but my VTs are fine.  i don't know how to switch it ;)  good luck man!00:15
eniac you could try startx00:15
eniacstart "X Server"00:16
zykotick9to whomever eniac was talking to: using "sudo service lightdm start" might also be helpful to try.00:16
mwilliams1220command to start a window minimized?00:17
dijonyummyis there an easy way to stop unbuntu 12.04 from restting my /etc/resolv.conf?00:21
zykotick9dijonyummy: resolv.conf is deprecated.  move on.00:21
zykotick9dijonyummy: i think most stuff ends up in /etc/network/interfaces now... i don't know the details (or use N-M myself)00:22
histoHow do I find out what DNS servers i'm using on my wireless connection?00:22
ring1ls00:23
ring1wrong window :)00:23
AaronCampbellHow can you type extended unicode characters in Ubuntu/Unity?  In Windows I could do a multiplication symbol with <alt>+201500:24
rexishey does anyone else always get in youtube the error: and error occured, please try again later00:24
ActionParsniprexis: do other flash sites work ok?00:24
ActionParsniprexis: what browsers have you tried?00:25
rexisActionParsnip: Mozila, Chrome. Ubuntu and Linux mint, not really any other flash sites. I think pandora is flash right? I use that. Do you know any other flash site to test?00:25
miceikenhttp://paste2.org/p/2130649 what do i do ?00:26
ActionParsniprexis: mozilla isn't a browser, firefox is the browser made by mozilla00:26
dijonyummyzykotick9, so where would i put stuff like domain, search, nameserver that i used to put in resolv.conf? i cant find doc where to put that in /etc/network/interfaces00:26
trismAaronCampbell: ctrl+shift+U type the numbers then enter00:26
rexisActionParsnip: yea firefox00:26
AaronCampbelltrism: I think I just figured it out.  2015 gave the wrong symbol...it expects hex not dex00:26
AaronCampbells/dex/dec/00:27
ActionParsniprexis: can you give a pastebin of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'00:27
rexisActionParsnip: i can keep refreshjing and they eventually work00:27
davidlmiceiken:  try "cp -a",  then "rm -r" when you know the data is safe in the other place00:27
histoDoes anyone know how to check which dns servers network-manager is pulling from my dhcp router?00:27
AaronCampbellSo I guess <ctrl>+<shift>+U, 00d7, <enter>00:27
miceikenwhat is the default chmod? 644?00:27
trismAaronCampbell: ahh yes, didn't notice the multiplication symbol part00:28
AaronCampbelltrism: Now I just have to re-learn all the codes :|00:28
AaronCampbellThanks for your help00:28
miceikendavid_, same args? /from/* /to/00:29
miceikendavidl, think i broke the permissions :p miceiken@celeste:~$ cp -a /var/torrents/* /media/external/TV\ Shows/00:31
miceikencp: cannot stat `/var/torrents/Boardwalk Empire/season02.tbn': Permission denied00:31
* keyzs http://youtu.be/QGqzSjC6n6o00:32
mark_petersHello. What is the difference between "none /tmp tmpfs" and "tmpfs /tmp tmpfs" in /etc/fstab ?00:35
zykotick9dijonyummy: histo1 (lol same issue really) sorry I only know/use the old method, using /etc/resolv.conf.  but 12.04 uses a different method!  i don't know it.00:35
sdzfyi.. console (VT) output to wrong monitor fixed... swapped cables to video card00:39
mgalasi'm getting an error 401 trying to install a software centre purchase00:41
mgalasany ideas???00:41
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TJ-mgalas: Yes, I posted a bug-fix for it, let me look00:45
miceikenany way to check if my motherboard has usb 1.1 or 2.0 through cli?00:45
zykotick9sdz: ;) that wasn't the s/w fix i was hoping for - but can't argue with the results.  nice.00:47
linuxuz3r_hi how do i fix this http://i.imgur.com/j0vTV.jpg00:48
linuxuz3r_2 menubar 2 taskbar00:48
linuxuz3r_i just want 1 menubar 1 taskbar00:48
froohso... I just rebooted my computer and X11 won't start at all00:49
froohI looked at the failsafe log and it complains that there are no monitors with good configs00:49
froohlast time this happened I reinstalled completely and it fixed it00:49
froohis there something less hardcore I can do to fix it?00:49
miceikenhow do i fix folder permissions for my suer00:49
miceikenuser00:49
doctarijoin #backtrack-linux00:49
Dr_willis!permissions | miceiken00:49
ubottumiceiken: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions00:49
Dr_willismiceiken,  give the channel details of whats wrong exactly. and they may know  a specific command/fix for you00:50
froohI should reboot more than once every 3 months :/00:50
froohI tried uninstalling and reinstalling the nvidia-current package00:51
miceikenwhat is drwxrwxr-x in octal? :p00:51
froohalso nvidia-current-updates00:51
froohmiceiken: don't use octal,  just use chmod u+rwx or w/e00:51
miceikenwhat does w/e consist of? :p00:52
miceiken77500:52
hualetYesterday , I installed kde with 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' , then i just find i don't like kde at all, so i uninstalled it with synaptic, but when i use command 'locate kubuntu', i still found some files, so i deleted them, but when i install some new software today , it always warn me that some 'kubuntu-...'files can't found, so what can i do now?00:55
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keith__hualet, you could try installing kubuntu-desktop again00:56
keith__hualet, and then uninstall it again00:56
hualetoh, god...00:57
keith__hualet, some applications depend on KDE libraries, so you might have inadvertently deleted some of them00:57
hualetwhat's the problem?00:57
hualetthen, do it again...?00:58
wilee-nileehualet, if you are going to remove a desktop use this website playing around left column. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/00:59
wilee-nileemake sure you are on the correct release as well when you use the list.00:59
hualetkeith__, Couldn't I just install some package instead?00:59
keith__hualet, sure, but you could have deleted files that other programs are depending on that you already have installed01:00
keith__hualet, but yeah, you could just try reinstalling packages when things error01:01
hualetok, but it's really a big project to install kubuntu-desktop again...01:02
wilee-nileehualet, how did you remove the desktop in synaptic?01:02
hualetI just select the package install under the kubuntu-environment group01:03
hualetthen, apply01:03
luftikuss'~$ ping 192.168.178.33; 7 packets transmitted, 7 received, 0% packet loss, time 5997ms. '~$ telnet 192.168.178.33; Trying 192.168.178.33...; telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused.' What should I do now?01:04
keith__hualet, you probably still have all of the packages downloaded in /var/cache/apt/archives01:04
wilee-nileehualet, Not a good way to do it unless you know exactly what to do take a look at the link I gave you it has all the package's in lists for the desktops supported by ubuntu basically, although kubuntu has changed there.01:05
wilee-nileeas far as actual economic support01:05
keith__hualet, but I'm actually not sure if that will fix your problem, because I think the system thinks that a package is installed, but really some of its underlying files have been deleted by you01:05
hualetkeith, no, do you know a tweak app named 'ubuntu-tweak'? i always use it after my updating or installing.01:06
* frooh gives up and uninstalls X entirely01:06
hualetI think so, too01:06
hualetAre you sure it will works if I just do the install and uninstall again?01:08
keith__hualet, no, like I said... I'm actually not sure if that will fix your problem, because I think the system thinks that a package is installed, but really some of its underlying files have been deleted by you01:12
keith__you will probably have to "reinstall" certain packages that are broken01:12
wilee-nileehualet, I would look at the desktop list at psychocats website and not peck around read what it says there in the playing around section. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/01:12
hualetOk, i'll try01:13
hualetkeith__ and wilee-nilee, thank you .01:14
wilee-nileehualet, no problem, removing and installing whole desktops is rather easy once you know what to do and get the lists of what is installed.01:15
froohwow01:15
froohit looks like a lightdm issue01:15
froohgdm starts up01:15
keith__hualet, no problem, good luck!01:17
hualetok, i'm not familiar with IRC yet, and my English is not good, so , hope not bothered you that much...01:17
hualetthanks01:17
fizyplanktoni booted with the nomodeset option to try to fix some monitor issues i was having, only to find out that it made it worse. i then removed the nomodeset option, and tried to boot only to find all hell break loose. i went into recovery mode, and i found out that it cant open /var/run/acpi.socket. however, if i boot from the previous kernal, it works fine. does anyone know how to either repair the acpi damage incurred by boo01:20
corvaxia[Q] What can I do to fix youtube videos? They either stutter or play at 10X normal speed. The effect is either Max Headroom or Poltergeist. Using Chrome with adobe-flashplugin && ubuntu-restricted-extras.01:27
wilee-nileecorvaxia, chrome has a built in flash.01:30
wilee-nileenot sure what is causing this though.01:30
corvaxiaIs there anything I can poke a stick at to help narrow the problem down?01:32
wilee-nileecorvaxia, here is some info, http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=10808601:32
Fluid_MantisHi, I'm having a bit of trouble. Is there any way to make the backspace key navigate back in Chromium like it does in Chrome on Windows? I know it can be toggled on Firefox in about:config, but I prefer Chrome.01:36
Fluid_MantisAnd also, there is a Chrome extension but it simply does not work.01:36
ridorhello01:39
Fluid_MantisHi, ridor.01:39
ridori want in in my ubuntu 12.04 install gnome 2 is it possible ?01:39
Fluid_MantisI too am waiting for any help. I'm new so I can't help...01:40
MajorPopinfreshYou kidding me? I'm still trying to get the bloody OS installed!01:40
ridorwhat is your question if i can help you Fluid_Mantis01:40
Fluid_MantisTo quote...01:40
Fluid_MantisHi, I'm having a bit of trouble. Is there any way to make the backspace key navigate back in Chromium like it does in Chrome on Windows? I know it can be toggled on Firefox in about:config, but I prefer Chrome.01:40
Fluid_MantisAnd also, there is a Chrome extension but it simply does not work.01:41
Fluid_MantisAlso, I notice since I last used Ubuntu (years ago) the close/minimise/maximise buttons are on the left of windows rather than the right.01:41
ridorgo to #chromium-support Fluid_Mantis01:42
Fluid_MantisThank you.01:43
MajorPopinfreshI'm having some trouble getting my computer to boot from a USB stick. I've used the programs that the official website recommends to make it work, plugged it in to my computer, and have set USB HDD to top priority for booting. I can't find my boot menu, however, and the computer always bypasses the USB stick and simply runs Windows. Any help?01:45
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Fluid_MantisWho is the manufacturer of your computer, MajorPopinfresh, or did you build it?01:47
MajorPopinfreshIt's a Samsung laptop.01:47
Fluid_MantisI assume you've tried other USB ports, right?01:47
MajorPopinfreshI've tried all three on the machine.01:48
Fluid_MantisI also have a Samsung laptop, but I can't comment since I haven't booted from USB with it.01:48
Fluid_MantisHmm.01:48
fizyplanktonMajorPopinfresh: what version are you trying to install?01:48
Fluid_MantisThe best thing I can personally recommend is getting in touch with Samsung tomorrow.01:48
viper474how can you change the unity launcher command for an app?01:48
MajorPopinfreshI can say for sure that the USB stick its self works... I'm trying to install the latest. 12.04 I believe?01:49
Fluid_MantisOften, in the BIOS, the devices themselves (including USB storage) will show in the boot priority settings.01:50
Fluid_MantisDo you see your USB device appearing in it?01:50
fizyplanktonMajorPopinfresh: if you are comfortable doing so, try removing the harddrive to force it to boot from the flash drive01:50
MajorPopinfreshI'm honestly not sure. It's got USB HDD, which is at the top... it's got...01:50
Fluid_MantisI thought it was a USB stick though, which would be flash memory rather than a HDD. :P01:51
MajorPopinfreshOh.01:51
MajorPopinfreshWell... let's see... USB FDD, USB CD, and USB HDD are all that show up.01:51
Fluid_MantisUSB FDD.01:52
Fluid_MantisUSB Flash Disk Drive?01:52
Fluid_MantisTry it.01:52
corvaxiaSo this is probably a silly question. Which ultrabooks have the best driver support for ubuntu?01:52
MajorPopinfreshI just put that at the top. Gonna try it again. :/01:52
djzntrism: hi01:53
bazhangcorvaxia, ones with intel01:53
MajorPopinfreshNope. Still passing over.01:53
viper474found the answer to my question, thanks01:53
Fluid_MantisI'd give Samsung a call then.01:53
Fluid_MantisThey're usually pretty helpful.01:53
MajorPopinfreshRight then. We've also got a guy coming on Sunday, if all else fails.01:54
Fluid_MantisGood luck then.01:54
Fluid_MantisI'm wondering if anybody knows how to move the close/minimise/maximise buttons on windows to the right?01:54
trismdjzn: hello01:54
Fluid_MantisI don't really like the OS X style Ubuntu comes with.01:54
JACKCHEFHi I've just isntalled ubuntu,  and done it's updates after,  When trying to play nexuiz it wont fullscreen, the bar with my sound/wireless/mail/time at the top stays there and i wont get sound either,  anyone know why?01:55
zykotick9!controls | Fluid_Mantis01:55
ubottuFluid_Mantis: Starting in Lucid, the minimize, maximize, and close buttons have been moved to the left side. For more information and workarounds, please see http://pad.lv/53263301:55
Fluid_Mantiszykotick9, thanks, I'll check it out.01:55
JACKCHEFWhen fullscreening it unity stays ontop,01:56
zykotick9Fluid_Mantis: at one time (before i ditched google sites) !controls links to my lucidfs (google sites page) for instructions i got (from #ubuntu+1) when lucid was in beta ;)01:57
djzntrism: any luck on the cursor bug01:57
JACKCHEFplease help, I cannot play full screen applications, unity stays at the top forcing everything to stay beneath the bar01:59
Fluid_Mantiszykotick9: Yeah, I can see the theme suggestions, still reading the page. But I think Ubuntu only comes with two themes.02:00
trismdjzn: I'm pretty sure I know what is causing it, but I'm not sure the best way to fix it, gonna have to talk to the gtk devs02:02
JACKCHEFhow do i make unity go away while playing a game02:03
JACKCHEF????02:03
djzntrism: I did a test, ran a system fully as root... and i still got the problem.... so it isn't a permission issue02:03
zykotick9Fluid_Mantis: the amazing difference a : (or ;) can make in gconf-edit or dconf-edit ;)02:04
zykotick9Fluid_Mantis: i don't know the specifics anymore :(02:04
Fluid_MantisWell, I know a semicolon is a continuation of a list. ;)02:05
zykotick9Fluid_Mantis: in this case, changes left to right ;)02:06
Fluid_MantisI see now, in the terminal command. :P02:07
Fluid_MantisI'll try it.02:07
Fluid_MantisIt worked. Thanks a lot.02:08
Fluid_Mantis:)02:08
VbitzI'm going to install ubuntu on my HP dv6 laptop firstly should I wait for 12.10 and secondly are there any catchs to installing ubuntu on a hp dv6?02:09
Fluid_MantisThe only problem is that it's still left when maximised, but I can understand that since a lot of the "taskbar" is at the top-right.02:10
Fluid_MantisOh, one other thing. There is a mail icon at the top-right. It appears to be primarily for Thunderbird and also some kind of chat client. (Perhaps Jabber?) At any rate, I don't need it. Sorry for the newbie question, but how can I remove it/manage stuff at that part of the screen?02:15
zykotick9Fluid_Mantis: indicator-messages perhaps?  (i'm not sure!)02:16
Jagst3r15any way I can get the chromium in Quantal on 12.04?02:16
bazhangindicator-applet, indicator-applet-appmenu, indicator-applet-complete  <-- Fluid_Mantis got these installed? those seem to cover it02:17
zykotick9bazhang: that might be overkill02:17
bazhang!info chromium-browser  |Jagst3r1502:17
ubottuJagst3r15 None: chromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 18.0.1025.151~r130497-0ubuntu1 (precise), package size 21157 kB, installed size 78055 kB02:17
bazhangJagst3r15, sudo apt-get install chromium-browser02:17
Jagst3r15bazhang i think version 20+02:18
Jagst3r15is in quant02:18
Jagst3r15no way to get?02:18
bazhangJagst3r15, then look for a PPA02:18
Jagst3r15ok thank you02:18
JACKCHEFI'm having a problem, I installed "myunity" and I noticed it made unity stay ontop of everything, so I uninstalled it rebooted, but the setting , coloring etc. remain in effect to my unity,  but the app "myunity" is gone, please help02:19
bazhangJACKCHEF, help undo the settings?02:19
heithsI just updated my 1and1 server… and I got this warning:   W: mdadm: the array /dev/md1 with UUID …..etc02:20
heithsanyone see this before?02:20
Fluid_Mantisbazhang, zykotick9, thanks, I'll take a look.02:20
JACKCHEFYes I used "myunity" to make some changes to the way unity looks,  but when I went to play a game after, the unity side bar stays ontop, apps will not full screen and the top bar stays at the top with the time,02:21
bazhangJACKCHEF, so reinstall myunity and undo the settings made with it02:21
JACKCHEFI uninstalled "myunity" and rebooted, but the coloring and thing sI changed are still in effect, but "myunity" is not installed02:21
JACKCHEFyes ok02:21
Fluid_MantisIt could be the Ubuntu One Indicator Applet perhaps?02:22
Fluid_MantisI might just remove Ubuntu One.02:22
bazhangFluid_Mantis, it's indicator-applet02:23
JACKCHEFhmm02:23
JACKCHEFI cannot open applications, unity stays on the left,02:23
JACKCHEFthy open, but unity is there still02:23
Fluid_MantisI'm new to the terminal, but do I use sudo apt-get remove?02:24
Fluid_MantisThat's to bazhang.02:24
wilee-nileeJACKCHEF, right click desktop go go the background changer 2nd tab has a panel hider click02:25
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bazhangFluid_Mantis, sure. thats the way to uninstall stuff02:25
Fluid_Mantisbazhang, but when I try it for indicator-applet, it tells me it's not installed.02:25
JACKCHEFI've already tried that, I can make unity bar on the left go away, which allows the app to use more of the screem but the bar at the top stays, forcing the app to make its own window with another bar beneath,02:26
wilee-nileeJACKCHEF, have you looked at the gnome shell, you can set up a hider for the top panel in it, little different desktop it is gnome 302:27
JACKCHEFit shouldnt be this way tho,02:27
JACKCHEFI've used nexuiz many times , and ubuntu since 10.1002:28
JACKCHEFthe app is not going full screem  minimize and x are only present in the corner of it,  the sound wont kick in without the fullscreen,02:29
JACKCHEFunity is being a bastard and staying ontop of everything pardon my french02:29
JACKCHEFi search one sec02:30
JACKCHEFim having a bug issue02:31
bazhangJACKCHEF, so file a bug02:31
bazhang!bugs | JACKCHEF02:31
ubottuJACKCHEF: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.02:31
JACKCHEFshould I do  fresh install>?02:31
JACKCHEFor something: /02:32
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__OH__hello all ,  Ubuntu12.04.1 64bit is now avialable to upgrade?02:33
wilee-nileeJACKCHEF, you can reset the unity desktop02:34
JACKCHEFi tried unity --replace02:34
bazhang__OH__, August 23rd or thereabouts02:34
__OH__bazhang, Thank you ;-)02:35
wilee-nileeJACKCHEF, it is unity --reset02:35
wilee-nileealt f2 unity --reset jacjc02:36
wilee-nileeJACKCHEF, ^^^02:36
JACKCHEFyeaah,  still doesnt work right02:37
wilee-nileeJACKCHEF, try rebooting there are other commands as well02:37
wilee-nileecompiz is a bit finicky even if you did not use it exactly02:38
JACKCHEFcant I choose like repari option to install if its already installed?02:38
JACKCHEFI dont have compiz fusion manager installed,   its using some sort of compiz by default tho02:38
JACKCHEFI'm pretty familiar with compiz, even its experimental plugins,  I'd hate to reinstall and have this problem again tho.. cause ive never had it,02:39
wilee-nileeJACKCHEF, yes unity is a plugin in compiz.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/17610/how-do-i-reset-my-unity-configuration02:39
arooni-mobilei want everything that uses readline to use the vim bindings.  i already have set editing-mode vi; and set keymap vi  ...02:40
arooni-mobileideas?02:40
bazhangarooni-mobile, asked in the vim channel?02:41
arooni-mobileyes02:41
JACKCHEFseems it hangs,   the terminal02:41
JACKCHEFany sort of unity command,  screen resets, looks as if it took effect, but terminal never returns to idle, just hangs02:41
zykotick9!schedule > __OH__02:42
ubottu__OH__, please see my private message02:42
wilee-nileeJACKCHEF, close the terminal and reboot it is probably fixed02:42
JACKCHEFwhenever I close the terminal it says "There is still a process running in this terminal. Closing the terminal will kill it" and screen flash, appears as if it went back to previous settings, which.. look the same02:43
JACKCHEFbecause it was hanging, so I guess it did not complete02:43
JACKCHEFwell see you in 40 mins after re install02:45
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zztI need some help. Java how to find the last "." location?03:07
zztI want replace the string "abc.mp3" to "abc.lrc".03:08
codemaniaczzt are they on a text file ie the string you mentioned ?03:10
zztin java, find the last "."? the function "indexOf()" is only find the string from left03:10
zztcodemaniac ! text file?03:11
arivuwww.google.com03:11
codemaniacin java they are called method and not function03:11
codemaniacso what is the issue here03:11
codemaniacif you want to do text manipulation only over a file , then native unix utilities are best bet than java03:13
codemaniaceg awk ,sed03:13
zztoh! thanks!03:14
zztI write a function.03:14
zztI am a chinese programer. Read English is slow03:15
Nautilusare there different distros of 12.04, like with LAMP, an IDE, Compass etc set up?  eg: a web dev box?03:16
zztI'm in china, codemaniac where are you ?03:18
JACKCHEFinstalling (:03:18
codemaniacme in India zzt03:19
jagginessNautilus, this is #ubuntu, if you need to know about other linuxes, you should check out wikipedia, they have lists of derivative linuxes..03:20
codemaniacjagginess: you can always customize the default live cd and put whatever programming tools you wish.03:21
codemaniacNautilus:03:21
jagginessNautilus is username in here. I was addressing him03:21
jagginesspff mwhaha03:21
codemaniacjagginess: sorry highlighted you mistakenly . :)03:21
JACKCHEFhow can I dual boot operating systems from Usb, I can do one just fine, but when installing another it wont give me a grub menu,03:21
jagginessJACKCHEF, a usb is meant to be carried around, so you'll need to install grub to the beginning of the usb drive.03:22
jagginessJACKCHEF, you would have to use the bios boot menu (maybe it's f12 to call it up), so you can choose the usb drive as the first drive to boot instead of the default internal one03:23
JACKCHEFI've installed Ubuntu to usb and booted it fine,  thats not the issue03:23
JACKCHEFwhen installing multiple os on usb,  and booting usb, I dont get a grub menu for the OS' that are on the usb03:23
jagginessJACKCHEF, boot into your main OS you like (any linux that has grub2 package with it), and do update-grub203:24
jagginessJACKCHEF, and you don't need to do grub-install03:24
Nautilusjagginess: no, i want to know about ubuntu, not alternate *nix's.  Just wondering if there was a pre-configured desktop install with things like LAMP, IDE, Compass (and other similar Web Dev tools) available.  Perhaps "distibution" is the wrong word, since thats used for things like Kubuntu03:24
JACKCHEFI cant03:24
jagginessJACKCHEF, if the menu doesnt show up.. then you have to do grub-install from the "same" linux you did update-grub2 on.03:25
jagginessJACKCHEF, depends which linux's grub.cfg you want to use.03:25
JACKCHEFhow am I suppost to do that if it doesnt boot03:25
jagginessJACKCHEF, then do a rescue boot with a cd, and fix your main linux on usb..03:25
jagginessJACKCHEF, i assume you want to do a rescue prompt with ubuntu.. so fix your ubuntu usb boot (use a ubuntu install cd)03:26
jagginess!rescue03:26
ubottuTo rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"03:26
JACKCHEFhave no idea what your talking about,03:26
jagginessargh.. ubottu can be awful at times03:26
JACKCHEFnot listening apparently03:26
jagginessJACKCHEF, you have ubuntu on your usb?03:26
jagginessJACKCHEF, is that an installer or an installed ubuntu?03:27
JACKCHEFYes , and I dont care about it either,03:27
jagginessJACKCHEF, then stop trolling. That's how you fix it.03:27
jagginessnow go fix it.03:27
JACKCHEFI can install ubuntu onto usb just fine,  But when I install another os onto the usb,  I do not get a choice to boot which os , i get nothing03:27
JACKCHEFim not trolling, perhaps stop blabbing things that have nothing to do with what im asking and I wont tell you im not interested in it, no need to take offense mate03:28
jagginessJACKCHEF, well ask anybody else. They'll say the same.. you issue update-grub2 and grub-install. You have to rtfm from here on to know what i'm talking about.. sorry.03:28
* jagginess rests super-duper multipler Oses to the gods.03:29
smithwHi, can you guys help with nvidia optimus/bumblebee problems? I tried asking in #bumblebee, but I think there's no one there right now. (I'm asking to ask just to make sure it's allowed here.)03:29
Nautilusjagginess: I want to know about ubuntu, not alternate *nix's.  Just wondering if there was a pre-configured desktop install with things like LAMP, IDE, Compass (and other similar Web Dev tools) available.  Perhaps "distibution" is the wrong word, since thats used for things like Kubuntu03:29
TJ-I've missed everything that has been said, but surely if installed "another OS" causes the problem, then the problem is with what "other OS" does to the USB's boot sector. Maybe it installs syslinux not GRUB?03:29
JACKCHEFI think you are right03:30
JACKCHEFafter the second OS is on there I cant boot either so,03:30
TJ-Many ISO based installers use syslinux not GRUB03:30
jagginessNautilus, you'll have to research on that, simply a google with "ubuntu based distro site:wikipedia.org" may show some relevance03:30
AquethysHi. I'm trying to install 12.04 wubi on my hp pavilion dv6. Last time I tried the wireless drivers were not present (wireless just showed disconnected). Is there any way to make sure they will be?03:31
TJ-JACKCHEF: I seem to recall there's a hidden key in the syslinux bootstrap you can press to get to a menu... I wrote that code!03:31
TJ-Let me go check, it was a while ago now03:31
JACKCHEFsneaky sneaky03:31
InferiorHumanTJ-, hello again. ;-)03:31
TJ-JACKCHEF: I'm not sure but I think it's one of Shift or Alt03:32
Nautilusjagginess: ok thanks, pretty much already did that.  Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way... get 12.04 installed then maybe theres something that sets up a dev environment?03:32
wilee-nileeJACKCHEF, How did you install ubuntu to the usb?03:32
JACKCHEFI installed it from disc to usb03:32
JACKCHEFpartitioned beforehand03:32
TJ-"If the Shift or Alt keys are held down during boot, or the Caps or Scroll locks are set, SYSLINUX will display a LILO-style "boot:" prompt"03:33
AquethysHi. I'm trying to install 12.04 wubi on my hp pavilion dv6. Last time I tried the wireless drivers were not present (wireless just showed disconnected). Is there any way to make sure they will be?03:33
wilee-nileeJACKCHEF, ah good when you do that you want to use the something other option to point grub at the usb, this is an easy fix.03:33
JACKCHEFBut I will read about  that TJ thanks.,03:33
JACKCHEFand thanks jagginess03:33
cfhowlettAquethys: were they present during live boot?03:34
jagginessAquethys, well you can try the live option if there is one with the latest ubuntu installer and see if that can connect your wifi or at least be able to scan WIFI AP with it..03:34
TJ-GRUB uses Shift too, so if that isn't getting you a boot menu something may have totally taken away the boot-strap in sector 003:34
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Aquethyswhat's the live option? can you please link me iff possible? is that wubi?03:34
TJ-InferiorHuman: Hi :)03:34
JACKCHEFAquethys Im running ubuntu on a DV6 right now03:35
AquethysNice03:35
AquethysWhen you installed03:35
Aquethysdid it have wireless?03:35
jagginessAquethys, i don't know if its on the wubi.. nobody here uses it..03:35
AquethysOr did you have to manually get the drivers?03:35
AquethysOh03:35
Aquethysokay so how else do I install? via cd?03:35
JACKCHEFit didn't.  i went to, additional hardware and activated  a wireless driver03:35
AquethysOh03:36
AquethysAre you running 12.04?03:36
jagginessanyone knows if the 12.04 cd still offers a live option? (Aquethy's)03:36
JACKCHEFif you plug into eithernet and do an update your problem could be solved aswell, that happened on my netbook03:36
cfhowlettAquethys: FYI; wubi is for TESTING ubuntu.  It is NOT a permanent installation solution - so sayeth the wubi developers.03:36
jagginessAquethys, I run 12.04 yes.. but i'm on another machine currently..03:36
Aquethysoh03:36
AquethysOkay03:36
AquethysSo what's the real way to keep ubuntu03:36
JACKCHEFkeep03:37
JACKCHEF?03:37
AquethysUbuntu desktop?03:37
jagginessAquethys, wubi is not a real "linux" because it exists as a single large file on the windows filesystem03:37
cfhowlett!dual boot|aquethys03:37
ubottuaquethys: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot03:37
Aquethyswhere do I get the file?03:38
jagginessAquethys, but you should still be able to check it out and try to get your wifi working with it while you get the hang of things..03:38
zykotick9!cookie | jagginess cfhowlett03:38
ubottujagginess cfhowlett: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!03:38
jagginessAquethys, the real installer?03:38
Aquethysya03:38
jagginessAquethys, it's there on the main page somewhere03:38
jagginess!download03:38
ubottuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Precise, and help keeping the servers' load low!03:38
cfhowlettjagginess: you've already downloaded the ubuntu iso...create a boot media (usb are GREAT for this), boot from the live media and install.03:38
Aquethysis it the desktop cd file?03:39
Aquethyshttp://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/03:39
cfhowlettAquethys: arrg.  create a boot media cdrom or USB, boot from that and install.  you've already got the iso.03:39
jagginessAquethys, y03:39
cfhowlettAquethys: yes.03:39
Aquethysand doesn't matter what version of windows I have, I can get 64 bit ubuntu?03:39
cfhowlettAquethys: yes if your system supports 64 bit.03:40
InferiorHumanAquethys, do you have a 64bit processor ?03:40
jagginessAquethys, http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso (64bit)  or http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso  (32 bit)03:40
AquethysUm i3?03:40
InferiorHumanAquethys, yep03:40
AquethysOkay03:40
jagginessAquethys, amd64 is for intel64bit too03:40
InferiorHumanyep03:40
AquethysOkay so03:40
AquethysSave the image file or open with imgburn so I can burn it to cd?03:40
jagginessAquethys, this one http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso03:40
Aquethysyup got it :D just on the download screen03:41
Aquethysgotta decide whether to open or save03:41
InferiorHumansave it then open with image burn. or use unetbootin to make a USB installer03:41
cfhowlettAquethys: see unetbootin for windows to create a USB03:41
Aquethysokay03:41
Aquethyscan I burn it to CD03:41
cfhowlettAquethys: yes03:41
jagginessAquethys, imgburn works well and is free on windows03:41
AquethysSo after I burn it with imgburn03:41
AquethysDo I just reboot with disc in03:41
jagginessAquethys, ya.. there's an button option to "burn image to cd" graphically, easy to use..03:42
cfhowlettAquethys: follow the dual boot installation I sent you.03:42
Aquethysalright just waiitng for download to finish :)03:42
InferiorHumanAquethys, when your computer reboots with cd in it check for the menu's to say press F10 for boot menu or something and then select cd-drive. or in bios in boot order make sure cd-rom drive is first.03:43
AquethysI have the dv6...is this for all windows computers @inferior?03:43
cfhowlettAquethys: it goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway; back up critical windows data before installing ubuntu.03:44
AquethysOkay03:44
Aquethysum03:44
JACKCHEFokay my previous problem is gone but im afraid an update will bring it back03:44
AquethysI don't have a external hard drive available03:44
JACKCHEFaquethys Im on a DV603:44
AquethysYup :P03:44
JACKCHEFf9 should bring a choice between all available bootable media03:44
Aquethysokay03:44
Aquethyswhen it's at the hp screen?03:44
JACKCHEFthe starting flash with the options yes03:45
Aquethysokay03:45
Aquethyshow do I backup all critical windows data without an external hard drive? I don't have one of those :(03:45
Aquethysand on windows 8 developer preview03:45
cfhowlettAquethys: usb ...03:45
InferiorHumanAquethys, do you have a second HD in that machine ?03:45
viralfrostcloud services maybe?03:45
JACKCHEFright now my windows have there minimize and maximize options at the top of their windows,  but after updating lastime those options were transfered to the unity bar at the top,03:45
JACKCHEFi dont want it so03:46
viralfrostdropbox, box, ubuntu one...etc03:46
Aquethyssecond HD? I've got C drive, Recovery drive (D), HP_Tools (E)03:46
Aquethysand I only have 5GB on my dropbox03:46
viralfrostyou can always resize your windows partition, then do whatever you need to on the second partition..ie: install ubuntu, reinstall windows..whatever03:47
warmithi,need help. I used 'git reset --hard HEAD^^'  on my working tree, does that mean the recently commited 2 commits are gone totally?03:47
Aquethyshm okay how do I resize and see how much space I need to dedicate to a second partition?03:48
viralfrostthen when its installed, move all your stuff from the windows partition to your new one, and delete the old partition that had your data on, and resize the one that you just made03:48
JACKCHEFwhen installing ubuntu alongside it will resize it for you you can choose the size by sliding an allocation bar03:48
JACKCHEF^^^03:48
Aquethys@jackchef you mean when I boot the CD?03:48
TJ-warmit: Yes03:48
TJ-warmit: *unless* those commits still exist in another branch, or you can recall their commit IDs since they'll be hanging commits with no references right now03:49
JACKCHEF@Aquethys,  If your only installed os, is windows, and your installing Ubuntu, if will detect this, you can choose the "install along side windows " option , There will be a slider bar choosing how much space to dedicate to your windows and how much for ubuntu ,03:49
cfhowlettAquethys: also, it helps to defrag your windows before you repartition.03:49
JACKCHEFit will*03:49
Aquethysokay03:50
Aquethysgreat03:50
AquethysStill have to backup though right?03:50
jagginessya03:50
viralfrostaquethys - and don't interrupt it..otherwise itll mess up your data...03:50
JACKCHEFyou dont .. "have to "   but you can03:50
jagginessAquethys, you have to.03:50
Aquethys^03:50
AquethysYa03:50
jagginessAquethys, to be 100% sure.03:50
AquethysI need to...can't risk it03:50
jagginessyup03:50
AquethysUm03:50
AquethysI only have03:50
Aquethysa like03:50
FloodBot1Aquethys: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.03:50
cfhowlett...um , floodbot What the heck?03:51
jagginessi think he has a windows virus too03:51
JACKCHEFyour entire HDD could be dedicated to windows, but during ubuntu installation you can choose exactly how much space you want each OS to have access to on ur HDD,03:51
warmitTJ-: yes, before i reset, i started a new branch to reset, but when i checkout the other commit, it flys back to the same commit i reset to .03:51
TJ-Aquethys: please write your messages on one line03:51
cfhowlettjagginess: would a windows virus effect irc?03:51
* jagginess thinks Aquethys may have got the irc burp bot03:51
TJ-warmit: can you go back through your scroll buffer and spot the commit IDs ?03:52
warmitTJ-: yes ,there is03:52
TJ-warmit:  one other way you might be able to find the commit IDs is to do "ls -ltr .git/objects/" and then the same in the most recent sub-directories of that one to spot the IDs03:53
JACKCHEFAquethys: choose install along side windows, and no prior partitioning will be needed,  just choose how much space to dedicate to windows and linux with the slider bar presented,    thats all03:53
JACKCHEFallocation bar*03:53
TJ-warmit: If you have the commit IDs you can cherry-pick them03:53
warmitTJ-: i am now on that branch,but things are not looking like i needed.03:53
somsipGrub problem - I have kernel 3.2.0-29 installed, and update-grub confirms this is recognised when it's run, but only 3.2.0-26 shows in Grub menu. Any ideas why this is?03:53
TJ-sompsip "Previous operating systems" ?03:54
wilee-nileeJACKCHEF, generally it is advised to resize windows with its virtual partitioner with windows 7 at least, and to malke sure it boots fine after the auto chkdsk.03:54
viralfrostaquethys - I've installed linux many times and partitioned with gparted, resizing my partition with windows on it, and installing linux on a new one...never had any problem with data loss or anything03:54
jagginessviralfrost, ya but you're not new to this.. :)03:54
somsipTJ-: I do have grub on a secondary HD recognised by bootinfoscript, but I'm not clear on how to correct this.03:54
JACKCHEFyeah , I partition everything before installations,03:55
cfhowlettJACKCHEF: I'm inclined to agree with that method.03:55
TJ-somsip: maybe the boot device order in BIOS is picking that secondary drive to boot from?03:56
viralfrostsomsip - try update-initramfs and update-grub2 ?03:57
somsipIt's something I can check next time I reboot. The drive was only reattached a short time ago which is when I noticed kernel updates were not getting through03:57
TJ-somsip that'll be it then03:58
somsipviralfrost: update-grub2 does find the images for -29, but I guess that update-grub was doing the same thing. I'll check on next boot03:58
somsipTJ-: Ok - I'll dig in the BIOS. Cheers03:58
jagginesssomsip, duh. update-grub is not for grub2.03:58
viralfrost:)03:59
hwkiller-netbookupdate-grub is for grub2, iirc03:59
hwkiller-netbookthat's what I use, and I use grub203:59
zykotick9actually "update-grub" and "update-grub2" are the same03:59
somsipjagginess: actually update-grub2 is a symlilnk to update-grub03:59
jagginesscan be.. but traditionally weren't.03:59
jagginessyou just use update-grub203:59
zykotick9jagginess: always.  grub1 aka grub-legacy didn't have the "update" feature04:00
viralfrostsomsip - try using grub-customizer04:00
jagginesswell if i use multiple distros (wait a minute i do), I'm so stubborn I will always use update-grub2 :)04:01
somsipviralfrost: thankd for the idea, but grub has always updated automatically so if that's stopped it sugegst something else is wrong. Another MBR having grub seems to make sense given what I found on the web before asking04:02
zykotick9jagginess: good for you.  pointless, save yourself a keystroke every time ;)04:02
__OH__hello all, how long it take to install Ubuntu restricted extras from Ubuntu Software Center?04:24
`4fun`hey guys, i portforwarded port 113 for irc identd to my ubuntu server but it still acts as if its not enabled04:24
`4fun`is there something i need to install to enable identd on ubuntu server?04:24
cfhowlett__OH__: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras04:24
__OH__It take about 15 minutes for me now and still apply....04:24
exothermcIs there a nice interface to manage storage and file systems?  Something like openfiler, but using Ubuntu?  I don't need the permissions things just the RAID, FS etc?04:24
jagginess`4fun`, modern clients can simulate or there are router boxes that simulate it sometimes..04:25
jagginess`4fun`, it's an old relic that isn't very necessary..04:25
`4fun`jagginess, what isnt necessary?04:25
jagginess`4fun`, it's possible your router box is not allowing to port forward 11304:25
`4fun`jagginess, its the port is forwarded to my ubuntu server already04:26
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jagginess`4fun`, the box may say its configured it's doing port forward to 113, but it may not be doing it because it's already doing some kind of identd on it's own04:27
__OH__cfhowlett, how do i stop install  process Ubuntu restricted extras from Ubuntu Software Center, it's seem not work from there?04:27
jagginess`4fun`, identd is basically something of a relic04:27
`4fun`jagginess, the router does nothing but forward port 113.. there isnt anything else invloved, atleast i think so.. and i didnt do anything to my ubuntu server about identd04:28
`4fun`so i dont know if its handling anything by default on its own.. thats why im asking here04:28
`4fun`obviously the port is not forwarded to any other machine from the router04:29
jagginess`4fun`, you should ask on #freenode what you're after about irc's..04:29
`4fun`umm its not about irc04:29
`4fun`its about ubuntu acting as if port 113 doesnt exist...04:29
jagginess`4fun`, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identd identd is dead :/04:29
`4fun`its not on IRC dude04:30
jagginess`4fun`, they would know about identd04:30
jagginessirc or not04:30
`4fun`huh?04:30
`4fun`who would know?04:30
jagginess#freenode04:30
`4fun`well, lets ignore IRC for a second jagginess, why is ubuntu server not seeing port 113? does it need a certain package to install or some kind of service?04:31
jagginess`4fun`, sounds like you're setting up a server that does ident checking04:32
jagginess`4fun`, to understand what can simulate an ident response, you can ask on #freenode04:33
jagginess`4fun`, sounds like you're setting up an irc server04:33
`4fun`no man04:33
`4fun`im not04:33
`4fun`and thanks for trying dude04:33
__OH__There is problem with Ubuntu Software center, in process applying changes not been complete and take so long, I need to stop thier process, how to do?04:33
jagginess`4fun`, port 113 is identd. You'll have to know about it. :) (read online)04:35
TJ-`4fun`: You need to install an identd on the server. I use oidentd with its proxying enabled04:35
`4fun`TJ-, aah so i do need an identd server.. thanks dude04:36
jagginesslol04:36
TJ-`4fun`: E.g. I have oidentd on my Internet server which proxies for my VPN tunnel that leads back to my premises. On my laptop I run oidentd too, configured to expect proxy requests from the Server. So when an ident request comes in, the Internet server sends it to my laptop04:36
jagginessirrelevant if his router box already simulates an identd response.04:36
jagginessbut good luck..04:36
gnomefreakthanks for ketting me test it04:37
gnomefreakketting ==  letting04:38
WhiteRookcan anyone help with advice on how to load ubuntu to an AMD64 Windows 7 system with unalocated space on the drive?04:38
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`4fun`jagginess, installing oidentd fixed the issue.. now port 113 is Open and IRC sees it as enabled..04:38
`4fun`im still not getting what youre on about the router simulating an identd response04:39
`4fun`its just forwarding a 'port'04:39
jagginess`4fun`, and the people at #freenode would know too :) lol.. whatever you're trying to do04:39
jagginess`4fun`, identd is sort of dead, but tends to stick around with irc stuff04:39
TJ-`4fun`: some gateway routers will answer ident requests with a simulated user name04:39
jagginessTJ- yeahyeah i told him already like 2-3 times..04:39
jagginess:)04:39
`4fun`TJ-, yeah, ok, that makes sense04:40
`4fun`jagginess, thats not what you said, you were talking as if my router is actually doing that and it doesnt04:40
`4fun`TJ- just explained it better04:40
`4fun`but problem solved04:40
jagginesslol well ok04:40
Crivezit04:40
jagginessthat's why i mentioned the dudes who would know it best (#freenode)04:41
`4fun`thanks to both of you04:41
jagginesscuse ya weren't getting it..04:41
* WhiteRook requesting private chat for help loading ubuntu in dual boot mode with windows 7 using wubi if possible04:41
gnomefreakWhiteRook: please keep your requests, problem in the channle insteasd of private chat04:42
WhiteRookgnomefreak - ok thanks, should i explain my setup and situation in channel?04:43
gnomefreakWhiteRook: yes than wait for someone to respond04:44
cviebrockany known issues with fail2ban on 12.04 ?04:44
JACKCHEFI keep having this problem, when launching nexuiz, or a game, unity stays at the side, i can make the unity bar dissapear but the bar at the top with the time and such stays, making the application have its own borders too04:45
raymond_JACKCHEF, odd, even in fullscreen mode?04:46
JACKCHEFIt wont full screen,  it takes the entire screen except for where the unity launcher and the top bar is04:46
JACKCHEF\I set it to large as possible in nexuiz options04:46
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JACKCHEF2nd fresh install,04:47
raymond_JACKCHEF, I like nexuiz.. maybe I'll give it a try on my system.04:47
raymond_what's your video card?04:47
JACKCHEFintel 965 chpset or soemthing, old04:47
WhiteRookI am running windows 7 on a laptop and have re-partitioned my primary hdd for 12 gigs of unalocated space for the ubuntu install (i am currently running ubuntu in a virtual machine) - i would like to install to the new partition for multiboot (unallocated space) but have no way to backup my current OS and related files, thus am hesitant to modify the bootloader - what is the best option to be able to dual boot with windows 7 without an available backup of th04:47
WhiteRooke current disk?04:47
raymond_JACKCHEF, ok and are you running the one from the software center?04:48
JACKCHEFyep04:48
raymond_ok04:48
JACKCHEFmaybe I should get it elsewhere,04:48
raymond_I'll download it and check it out.04:48
fegoWhiteRook: before anything you touch a backup is all doctor orders04:48
fegoyou can install ubuntu in the unallocated space04:49
JACKCHEFyeah 880 mb later04:49
fegoyou will need to have a swap too04:49
* gnomefreak has 2 hard drves un ny bix ti nae installing Ubuntu04:50
JACKCHEF*cries* I love nexuiz04:50
gnomefreakdamn i cant type04:51
* gnomefreak goes to look it up04:51
somsipGrub2 problem - current kernel installed is 3.2.0-29 but grub menu only shows 3.2.0-26. sudo update-grub2 finds the images but does not change the menu. Have reinstalled linux-image-generic and linux-headers-generic which completer fine but still don't show. Grub is only installed on one MBR. Any ideas?04:51
WhiteRookcan wibu install to a new partition using the windows bootloader?04:51
WhiteRookas opposed to installing on the windows partition04:51
pastI am super new to linux and i have a .zip file that i want to install; not sure how...help!04:51
JACKCHEFhaha04:52
JACKCHEFpast: you should be able to just open it with file archiver and unzip like you would any other os04:52
raymond_past, a .zip file?  What's in it?04:52
cfhowlettpast: should open by clicking on it.04:52
fegoyou can always do a wubi install , but it wont be a native linux ixntall WhiteRook04:52
decciHi04:52
r0shGuys, brightness control of laptop not working anymore after upgrade.. New kernel version is 3.2.0-29 and the acpi_backlight=vendor parameter is not working anymore.. :(04:52
cfhowlettdecci: greetings04:52
deccicfhowlett: I recently installed ubuntu server, and opted for encrytion when install.  now i am annoyed with constantly having to enter the password in order for it to boot, as i want to host this server, and wont be able to enter the password.  I am looking for someone who can help me remove it04:53
raymond_past: like is it a program or just files?04:53
fegojust create your root , swap partitions before hand with gparted04:53
WhiteRookwhat is a reasonable swap partition size?04:53
cfhowlettdecci: remove the encryption?04:53
pasthmm i tried and file archiver said it couldnt open let me give it another shot04:53
fegoand then start the installer04:53
deccicfhowlett: How shall I disable entering password every while and then?04:53
deccicfhowlett: i am annoyed with constantly having to enter the password in order for it to boot04:54
JACKCHEFstupid unity never did this to me before04:54
deccicfhowlett: How to get rid of that?04:54
fegoyou will be asked to provide the root you want to install ubuntu04:54
gnomefreakWhiteRook: depends on how much memoy04:54
raymond_JACKCHEF, ok.. here goes04:54
JACKCHEFwoOoo04:54
cfhowlettdecci: understood...but my experience with such is limited.  stay in channel and ask again.04:54
cfhowlett!patience|decci:04:54
ubottudecci:: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/04:54
r0shany solution?04:54
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decciubottu: okie04:55
raymond_JACKCHEF, works for me..04:55
JACKCHEFdamnit04:55
raymond_all I had to do was go to settings, then under video hit full screen, then apply04:55
fegopast: is it a source tar ball ? ie with .tat.[b]gz04:55
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raymond_when it installs it defaults to window mode04:55
fego.tar.gz like extn04:55
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JACKCHEFthank you raymond04:56
JACKCHEFI am blind but now I see04:56
raymond_JACKCHEF, np.04:56
WhiteRookI have about 15 gigs I can dedicate to linux, also will the BIOS recognize the ubuntu install prompting me for my preferred OS - is there any way to accomplish this04:56
JACKCHEFdamnit, little option was unticked04:56
WACOMaltThis may be a little out of this chat's realm, but I am running Ubuntu 12 on a VM in virtualbox. Would anyone know why my internet dies in the VM after about 5 minutes every time? or how I could check the cause?04:56
fegopast: you can have all the pieces of software you want in software center , no nedd of source install04:56
JACKCHEFi had reset, replaced, unity and a whole bunch of things lol04:56
JACKCHEFi was ready for gnome or kde04:56
JACKCHEFhahhah04:57
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raymond_WACOMalt, are you on wireless?04:57
WACOMaltraymond_, nope, wired04:57
JACKCHEFim going to tackle arch linux04:57
WhiteRookWACOmalt - I am on wireless and using VM virtualbox and having no issues, although I enabled a second network adapter in the VM settings to bridge the wifi to behave like ehternet04:58
raymond_WACOMalt, what kind of virtual network do you have?04:58
bazhang!ot | JACKCHEF04:58
ubottuJACKCHEF: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:58
WACOMaltraymond_, it's set to NAT right now04:59
WACOMaltthe default for virtualbox04:59
marahinHarro! Anynyan can help me with setting up first Virtual Server on Ubuntu Server?04:59
JACKCHEFi said one thing settle down04:59
marahinDo i have to install an app for that, or is it icluded?04:59
bazhangJACKCHEF, chat is not here. #ubuntu-offtopic for that04:59
* gnomefreak going read i hope05:00
WhiteRookQuestion regarding 32 bit vs 64 - should 64 perform better on AMD64 bit arch?05:00
bazhangWhiteRook, if you hace 64bit machine use the 64bit OS05:01
smithwI'm getting a very strange error. After the last reboot, the keyboard does not work anymore. All I can gather is that the X server is receiving a unending stream of "return" keystrokes. The keyboard works fine on grub, windows and a live usb. I have no idea what can I do troubleshoot this. Can anyone help?05:02
raymond_WACOMalt, are you on a router?05:03
cfhowlettsmithw: quick answer; change keyboards?05:03
WACOMaltraymond_, yes05:03
WACOMalta Belkin Vision N105:03
raymond_WACOMalt, try switching it to bridged05:03
WhiteRookfinally, i dont have access to a live or install CD or other removable media - i am installing from a virtual drive (PowerISO) - is there any way to install in this way to a new partition or am i out of luck05:03
WACOMaltthe router or the virtual adaptor?05:03
raymond_WACOMalt, granted, it should work under NAT.. but.. just in case.. the virtual adapter05:04
WACOMaltok, trying in bridged05:04
smithwcfhowlett, it's a notebook. and I don't see how could I change the keyboard driver and/or layout with the return being pressed repeateadly05:04
WACOMaltLooks like a lot of people have this issue05:04
WACOMaltaccording to this: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=2988405:04
WhiteRookWACO - bridged solved this problem for me05:04
cfhowlettsmithw: for grins and giggles can you plug in a usb keyboard to test that error you're getting?05:04
raymond_WACOMalt, bridged is kind of cool because your VM gets it's own IP address on your network.  Helps if you ever want to run a server on it or something.05:05
WACOMaltah cool05:05
WACOMaltyeah I'll need that soon anyways, thanks05:05
raymond_with NAT it's stuck behind your host.05:05
WACOMaltah05:05
WACOMaltnope now I dont have internet at all05:05
WACOMalt:/05:05
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raymond_weird weird weird.... do you have a MAC filter on your router?05:05
WACOMaltI dont05:06
WACOMaltin fact its wide open05:06
smithwcfhowlett, I'll have to find one first, though I don't think I'll be able to type anything with the returns. I'll go get it and try anyway, one sec05:06
deccicfhowlett: Will this help https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+question/48636?05:06
WACOMalt(Im in the middle of nowhere so its never an issue05:06
raymond_WACOMalt, which version are you running?05:06
WACOMaltnewest VB05:06
WACOMaltnot sure on ubuntu since I cant update it05:07
WACOMalt(where is the version # anyways?)05:07
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raymond_usually under about.05:08
WACOMaltit appears to be using eth1, but I feel like that should be eth005:08
WACOMaltI dont know where "about" is05:08
raymond_WACOMalt,  you mean under the VM's settings?05:08
WACOMaltno I mean inside of ubuntu05:08
WhiteRookWACOMalt - go to settings, then details05:09
smithwcfhowlett, no, the external keyboard doesn't work either, its input is completely ignored05:09
WACOMalt12.04LTS05:09
WhiteRook12.04 LTS is the current LTS05:09
WACOMaltis there a way to "factory reset" the networking settings?05:10
WACOMaltI feel like maybe I messed something up in there on ubuntu05:10
WhiteRookWACOMalt, would you like a screenshot on my virtualbox network settings which work?05:10
WACOMaltyes please :)05:10
cfhowlettsmithw: if you're absolutely certain that there is NOT a stuck or dirty key or something, I'd suggest see if you can disable that particular key sequence with keyboard settings.  Set it to null input - *TEMPORARILY*05:10
WACOMalthmm I have internet now after removing and making a new connection05:10
WACOMaltin the connection settings05:11
WACOMaltin bridged.. so we'll see if it stays alive05:11
WACOMaltwtf05:11
WACOMaltI can connect to google.com05:11
BobJonkmanHi: Who should I contact to get Software Freedom Day entered as a Global Event on the LoCo Events, similar to last year? http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1258/detail/05:11
WACOMaltbut I cant download updates05:11
WACOMaltI get a 404 not found on all updates05:12
decciI recently installed ubuntu server, and opted for encrytion when install.  now i am annoyed with constantly having to enter the password in order for it to boot, as i want to host this server, and wont be able to enter the password.  I am looking for someone who can help me remove it.05:12
smithwcfhowlett, yeah, I'm absolutely certain. I can use the keyboard normally on grub, windows and the live stick. I don't know how I can do that via files only (since the only way I have of changing settings on the machine is by booting on the live stick)05:12
decciWill https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+question/48636 help?05:12
marahinGuys. How can I create Vserver on Ubuntu Server?05:12
cfhowlettsmithw: I admit defeat.  sorry.  stay in channel and ask.05:13
cfhowlett!patience|smithw:05:13
ubottusmithw:: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/05:13
smithwok :(05:14
smithwthanks anyway05:14
jagginessBobJonkman, there's a locoteamhowto link from this page http://loco.ubuntu.com/about-loco/05:14
WACOMaltAnyone know why update manager would fail to download everything, but yet my internet connection is working fine?05:14
WACOMalthttp://pastie.org/4542470 this is the output of the update manager when it fails05:15
BobJonkmanThanx, jagginess, I'll follow up on that05:15
deccihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194151505:16
bazhangdecci, dont ask every five seconds05:16
smithwwell... it's simply ignoring the keyboard completely on the login screen. the endless returns only start if I activate the onscreen keyboard and login with that05:16
smithwafter the login, endless returns. before, ignoring the keystrokes, even ctrl+alt+f1 to try and go to tty05:17
deccibazhang: Isnt ther any solution?05:18
bazhangdecci, patience. asking more often does not get a quicker answer05:18
raymond_WACOMalt, maybe you have some antivirus software on the host that's freaking out?05:18
WACOMaltI dont use antivirus software at all05:19
WACOMaltfor that reason :)05:19
raymond_I'm stumped.  So.. you can visit websites and everything?05:20
aeon-ltddecci: is there a reason why it needs to be turned off and on again frequently enough for this to be necessary?05:20
Tervingims05:20
decciaeon-ltd: My Application needs frequent rebooting and this is where I am getting stuck05:21
smithwif I login with a guest session, there's no endless returns, but no keyboard either05:21
WACOMalthmm it seems I had to switch to "Main server" software source, rather than "USA server"05:21
Coreyhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ <-- That throwing an error for anyone else?05:21
WACOMaltor at least that kicked it into working... so it seems05:21
WACOMalt"You triggered the wiki's surge protection by doing too many requests in a short time."05:21
CoreyWACOMalt: Okay, filtering problem.05:21
CoreyThanks. :-)05:22
WACOMaltwoot yeah we're downloading fine now05:22
raymond_can someone help me with trying to integrate a web app I'm making with unity?  (or am I asking on the wrong channel?)05:22
WACOMaltbai folks05:22
wilee-nileeCorey, hehe just happened to me .05:22
Coreywilee-nilee: Yeah, the four pages I've hit in half an hour weren't enough to explain that.05:24
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somsipSeems like I have a grub problem. Attempted to purge/reinstall and got "debconf: warning: possible database corruption. Will attempt to repair by adding back missing question grub-pc" on purge, and on reinstall get "dpkg: error processing grub-pc - subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 10". Help please :-(05:32
decciWill this http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/5017/ssh-to-decrypt-encrypted-lvm-during-headless-server-boot work for me?05:32
Symmetriahrm, lo all05:33
smithwcfhowlett, just to let you I solved it. I made the wrong assumption that modifying the nvidia-current.conf file on xord.conf.d wouldn't affect my normal Xorg since it's using the integrated graphics, and set AutoAddDevices to false. changed that and the keyboard is back. (the endless returns are probably a side effect of typing my password with the onscreen keyboard, I guess the last stroke - return - never sends a 'key up' event because of the login proces05:33
smithws it starts)05:33
Symmetriatrying to install a bunch of .deb packages from hp which they claim are or ubuntu, but get this every time:05:34
SymmetriaUnpacking replacement cpqacuxe ...05:34
Symmetriaset: Variable name must begin with a letter.05:34
Symmetriaanyone got any ideas?05:34
__OH__ttf-mscorefonts-installer problem seem can't download .exe files from http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/05:34
cfhowlettsmithw: congrats.  also, consider doing a write up of the issue for the forums.  cuz you know SOMEONE out there is thinking the exact same way you did.05:35
smithwcfhowlett, which issue? my confusion on the role played by the files on xorg.conf.d or the key up that the X server never receives? or both?05:36
Tervingiwhy are you using source forge for the core fonts?05:36
__OH__Teringi, I am install Ubuntu restricted extras on Ubuntu Software center, it's include by defualt whe install it05:38
cfhowlettsmithw: hmm.  both but maybe crosslink in the text?05:38
__OH__and seem there has a problem05:38
__OH__and i has been re-install Ubuntu 12.04 4 times now because met same problem05:39
n1ckn4me09876543does anybody know how I can convert .wtv video file in linux?05:39
cfhowlett__OH__: ubuntu-restricted-extras are not included by default; but why would this cause reinstallation?05:40
TervingiI don't understand it going to sourceforge.  That is not a repository.05:40
Tervingihttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ttf-mscorefonts-installer05:40
cfhowlettn1ck05:40
Tervingicfhowlett:05:44
Tervingihttp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/m/msttcorefonts/ttf-mscorefonts-installer_3.4+nmu1_all.deb05:44
Tervingi;)05:44
cfhowlettTervingi: thanks but I think __oh__ had the issue.  my restricted-extras installed as smooth as a baby's behind.05:45
__OH__cfhowlett,  i don't knew why it does happen with me, I am use 64 bit and i am downoad file from Terving link, it's seem work and after sudo apt-get upgrade, they  now  again... ttf-mscorefonts-installer: downloading http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/andale32.exe05:47
__OH__how to remove ttf-mscorefonts-installer: downloading http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/andale32.exe, from a process?05:48
Symmetriaurgh, so, like, a package install went wrong, and now every time I try and install a package, it get a message about the original package needing to be reinstalled, and dpkg refuses to get rid of the one thats breaking it05:48
Symmetriaso eery time I try install anything now I get E: The package cpqacuxe needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.05:49
Tervingi$ cat /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common05:50
TervingiDISABLED_MODULES="ttf-mscorefonts-installer"05:50
TervingiThat was for you __OH_______-05:50
TervingiYou could also define an ip for source forge server05:51
TervingiPerhaps you have a DNS issue05:51
__OH__cat: /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common: No such file or directory05:51
__OH__So, difficult for me now it's act to me again: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)05:53
__OH__E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?05:53
__OH__How to resolve it?05:53
__OH__How to kill that process?05:54
Tervingifuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock05:55
Tervingiand then kill it05:55
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__OH__Tervingi, fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock, and then how to kill it?05:58
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Tervingiso, is this machine critical or do you just want that process dead?06:01
linuxuz3rwhat is the font of activities in default theme of gnome-shell ubuntu06:04
Tervingiyeah, i'm kind of not an expert, so maybe don't try that fuser command.06:05
TervingiI pulled off an instant shutdown trying to kill a text file.06:05
__OH__I wanna stop E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)06:06
__OH__E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?06:06
__OH__this problem is always act to me06:07
Tervingiact to you?06:07
__OH__I am show06:07
__OH__I mean it's always show up06:08
Tervingiok, so perhaps this one is safe06:08
Tervingi"Safety not gauranteed"06:08
Tervingi$ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock; sudo dpkg --configure -a06:08
__OH__Tervingi, /var/lib/dpkg/lock:  root       3006 F.... dpkg06:09
Tervingitry to install as normal.06:09
__OH__Kill process 3006 ? (y/N) y06:09
__OH__then there going to download frle from http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/06:10
__OH__again06:10
Tervingifind the IP of it, and put it in your /etc/hosts06:10
TervingiSo it doesn't go through dns resolution06:10
zykotick9__OH__: killing that isn't a great idea...  can you just reboot the system?  much cleaner.06:10
__OH__zykotick9, reboot is not help because im try it's many times06:11
zykotick9!aptlock | __OH__06:12
ubottu__OH__: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »06:12
Tervingibypass it with the hosts file06:12
linuxuz3rtry deleting /var/lib/dpkg/lock06:12
TervingiI think apt is getting locked up because it keeps crashing as a result of the network configuration problem you have, that is preventing proper resolution of the sourceforge address.06:13
__OH__Tervingi, any ways to cache DNS?06:15
__OH__or remove repository from http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/?06:16
TervingiSee exactly what address is failing06:16
Tervingiwhen you run the dpkg06:16
TervingiThen,   run        $ dig sourceforge.addresss.here06:17
Tervingithat will give you the ip address of it06:17
Tervingifrom a whois info06:17
Tervingiinstead of your dns servers06:17
TervingiThen put that in your /etc/hosts06:17
Tervingion a side note, perhaps you should look at the possibility of some dns hijacking somewhere if that isn't resolving properly.06:18
Tervingiif the hosts doesn't immediately take effect, restart network service via        sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart06:20
linuxuz3r_hi06:20
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ActionParsniphosts should take immediate effect, it is consulted every connection06:21
santhom HI everyone I installed ubuntu 10.10 as I am having shud down problem with 11.10 and 12.04 . I wanted to install the library libboost-random-dev but is not found in synaptic manager in 10.10 but found in latetr versions06:24
santhomis there any way to download it?06:24
santhomanyone?06:24
Tervingihttp://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libboost-random-dev06:25
Tervingi<-- all about helpful today. w0h000.06:25
ActionParsnipsanthom: Maverick is dead, no longer supported in any way06:25
TervingiI would say Google Is Your Friend but I don't believe it anymore. lol06:27
iceroot!eol | santhom06:27
ubottusanthom: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades06:27
santhom@ActionParsnip True, I tried 12.04 and most of the times the computer hangs during shut down process06:27
ActionParsnipTervingi: tried duckduckgo ;)06:27
ActionParsnipsanthom: still doesn't make Maverick supported06:27
__OH__Tervingi, it's not work for me, but thank you for help. still had a problem06:28
Tervingibummer.06:29
cfhowlett!LTS|santhom only is the way to go unless you REALLY need the latest shiny thing.06:32
ubottusanthom only is the way to go unless you REALLY need the latest shiny thing.: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)06:32
TervingiI wonder why that one is 5 years on desktop....06:33
TJ-Tervingi: To give enterprises the confidence to adopt it06:34
Tervingiwell I hope they do.06:34
TervingiIts not a long trip from that hud "type your command" to "say it"06:34
TervingiWhich would blow the doors off metro.06:34
TJ-I think it's a backward step, the HUD. It makes exploring what's installed much more difficult for new users than simply browsing menu categories06:35
TJ-Once I've got my hand on the mouse I don't want to be dragging it away to type06:35
ActionParsnipTJ-: how, with menus you need to search to find what you need, with hud you just type and the menu is searched for you06:36
Tervingitrue, but, if the commands people typed and all the menus of programs were created into a text corpus,  perhaps they could do a natural language "bookmark this" that you could use verbally in every program.06:36
TervingiIts the best path to a "star trek" computer I have seen.06:36
ActionParsnipTJ-: great for new menu systems, or ones with lots of submenus06:36
TervingiI don't use it much, but it seems to have potential06:36
TJ-ActionParsnip: You miss the point; If you don't know what's available in some categories you won't know what to type. In menu heirachies you can explore down them and see names of programs and recall those later when you need something to do a particular task06:37
New_hey guys I got a pdf with a key file and a key code and I realy need to open it ( in ubuntu) how can i do it ? any idea?06:37
ActionParsnipTJ-: yes but that takes time to learn, with hud there is zero learning06:37
TJ-The trouble with Unity and the single menu along top is, it was designed for 'bling' on tablets and small screen devices.... not for those of us with multiple HD displays06:38
TervingiRight, but that would be unecessary if instead of knowing that someone needs to drill down a menu for increasing a paragraph indent, they could simply type "indent entire paragraph"06:38
ActionParsnipNew_: if evince doesn't do it you can always install the adobe reader06:38
ActionParsnipTJ-: we're discussing hud...06:38
TervingiI think it goes to just telling the computer what you want it to do06:38
TJ-ActionParsnip: I beg to differ! I *know* what is on this system and I still often can't find it with HUD06:38
* L3top agrees with TJ-06:38
ActionParsnipTJ-: try using hud in gimp,makes life a tonne easier, especially with the different effects etc06:39
New_ I have document viewer do i need to install evince06:39
ActionParsnipNew_: that is evince06:39
L3topI want, at the very least, a heirarchical option.06:39
TJ-Every time this laptop starts and I log-in the first thing I do is run nvidia-x-settings ... I type "nvidia" and it says "can't find it" ... then 20 seconds later it appears.06:39
TervingiI can't find it at all, if the computer just listened to me barking at it, life would be great.06:39
TervingiThat's where the hud comes in :D06:39
TervingiI have ATI, and after my last redo, I just said to heck with the proprietary drivers.06:40
TJ-So it doesn't even cache/learn what my work flow is and help me06:40
ActionParsnipTervingi: they aren't always needed :)06:40
New_adobe is not open source is it?06:41
TJ-I also hate how the HUD tries to follow me across multiple screens as I change focus whilst typing, and gets in the way06:41
ActionParsnipNew_: no06:41
Tervingiwhy would you change focus while typing?06:41
ActionParsnipTJ-: some like that, can't please em all06:41
TJ-I'll be on the LVDS open HUD to search for something, need to check what it is on the other screen in a document for example... and the HUD will move to the other screen and obscure my view06:41
TJ-I like the concept of HUD... but the execution so far has been like a 10 year backward step in workflow06:42
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ActionParsnipTJ-: then don't use it.....06:43
TervingiMy hud does not switch unless I click in the other monitor.06:43
TJ-Tervingi: Why wouldn't I? My brain and me multitask!06:43
Tervingilol06:44
Tervingioh06:44
Tervingiyes it does06:44
TJ-I just checked by bringing it up on the LVDS then moving the mouse to another HD screen and just leaving it over xchat... 2 seconds later the HUD gets in my way!06:45
Tervingiwell, I hate sounding like a fanboy, but your usage seems a bit bizarre06:46
Tervingidoing a command in one program while focusing on another seems odd06:46
TJ-I'm getting on with it better than when I first upgraded to it, and I try to find ways to work with it, but I keep getting stopped from doing things fluidly that I never had issues with previously06:46
TJ-Why? It's a multi-tasking OS !06:46
TJ-I have about 10 things going at once mostly and I'm moving between them constantly as they call on my input06:47
TJ-As I said earlier - HUD and Unity are for small-screen single-use devices06:47
Tervingiyou can disable it in compiz06:48
TJ-I know, but that isn't practical06:48
TJ-How can I fix bugs if I avoid using the things that contain the bugs?06:48
Tervingilol06:48
TervingiThat's how you fix bug #1 man.. Come on :D06:49
ActionParsnipTJ-: if you don't like an app, don't use it06:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106:49
TJ-Tervingi: I fixed #1 years ago!06:49
ActionParsnipTJ-: you are restricting your own choice by sticking to what is given to you06:49
TJ-Microsoft has 0% of my market!06:49
AL13NWTF! did anyone see this? http://blog.mariadb.org/disappearing-test-cases/06:49
AL13N(08:53:29) AL13N: oracle is close sourcing more of mysql, all distro's should switch to mariadb as default06:49
TJ-ActionParsnip: I'm an Ubuntu developer! I'd be a right pratt not using the standard software!06:49
ActionParsnipTJ-: a tonne of apps in Ubuntu are not to my liking or do what I need, I just swap them out for better alternatives (imho)06:49
chandru_inWhen using thinkpad's touchpad with Ubuntu, the pointer shivers when charging but not when on battery. Is this a known issue?06:50
TervingiI think the HUD has great potential if it becomes more natural language.06:50
TJ-Hi Bryan06:50
ActionParsnipchandru_in: what make and model ?06:50
TJ-chandru_in: Probably it's cold fusion :p06:50
chandru_inActionParsnip, Thinkpad X22006:50
ActionParsnipchandru_in: let me search06:51
chandru_inTJ-, cold fusion?06:51
TJ-chandru_in: humour :)06:51
Tervingithe pointer gets cold when you pour juice on it.06:51
chandru_in:D06:52
TJ-chandru_in: is the power supply charger on the same desk/surface as the laptop?06:52
ActionParsnipchandru_in: run:   gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-synaptics.conf      and add the text at the bottom of this post: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=13836006:52
chandru_intj yes06:52
chandru_inTJ-, yes06:53
TJ-chandru_in: I'm just wondering if it could be some kind of physical vibration from the power supply... far out idea I know, but...!06:53
chandru_inWill try ActionParsnip's suggestion06:53
ActionParsnipchandru_in: do you have the latest BIOS too?06:53
crimsonmanemay i have a re-cap of the current discussion (just entered)06:54
chandru_inActionParsnip, will try upgrading too06:54
ActionParsnipchandru_in: http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-Tablet-ThinkPad-Laptops/Jumpy-Thinkpad-X220-Tablet-Touchpad/td-p/47273706:54
Tervingitry disabling the touch pad, and then pointing stick.  Each of them one at a time while you plug it in.06:55
TervingiThat seems hardware06:55
TJ-chandru_in: see this http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-Tablet-ThinkPad-Laptops/Jumpy-Thinkpad-X220-Tablet-Touchpad/td-p/47273706:55
Tervingiperhaps it is the keyboard or palmrest06:55
chandru_inTJ-, ActionParsnip, what did you guys Google for? I've been trying for a day with no luck!06:55
ActionParsnipIts something to do with some optiiser or somethng (sounds windows based)06:55
TJ-chandru_in: "thinkpad x220 shaky mouse pointer"06:55
chandru_inah ok06:56
ActionParsnipchandru_in: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Thinkpad+X220+linux+touchpad06:56
chandru_inTried shivering :(06:56
ActionParsniphaha google? What is this 2006?06:56
Tervingidid it work and fix it?06:56
chandru_inTervingi, will be trying soon06:56
TervingiI like Qrobe.it for searches06:56
SchekiLSelamunAleyküm.06:56
Tervinginever ending results, but otherwise like duck duck go.06:56
ActionParsnipTervingi: the bang syntax in duckduckgo is phenominal06:56
Tervingibang syntax06:57
ActionParsnipTervingi: indeed06:57
ActionParsnipTervingi: https://duckduckgo.com/bang.html06:57
Tervingireading now06:57
ActionParsnipTervingi: its very extensive06:58
ActionParsnipe.g:   !ppa unity           will show all the launchpad PPAs with unity06:58
ActionParsnipgoogle can't do anythinig like that06:58
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ActionParsnipplus it doesn't bubble or track you06:59
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Tervingiwow06:59
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TervingiI do thousands of searches a week I suspect.06:59
ActionParsnipTervingi: yes, wow06:59
TervingiGlad to have that06:59
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ActionParsnipTervingi: google sucks, people just think its the way, you can search google from duckduckgo with: !g  and google images with !gi07:00
TJ-Google has the equivilent, as does Bing. "site:xxxxx"07:00
Guest98268hi all can anybody tell me how to install powerdvd in ubuntu 12.04.07:00
Tervingino, this seems to be search within a categorical subset07:00
TervingiI really can use that to filter out garbage.07:00
ActionParsnipGuest98268: why would you need it?07:00
Tervingialthough qrobe is really good07:00
crimsonmaneGuest98268: you don't need powerdvd when you're running linux. what project are you trying to accomplish? there's a native way to do it.07:00
ActionParsnipTervingi: you can order by date site added and so forth too07:01
chandru_inNone of that works :(07:01
ActionParsnipGuest98268: once you install the DVD decoder, any player can play DVD07:01
Guest98268ActionParsnip: its the best player i found which gives more clarity when cmp to vlc and other players07:01
MirtheNGuest98268: o would recomend VLC/Videolan in linux, does everything powerdvd will do and then some07:01
Tervingifor instance, I just searched "acid !food" and its all relevant to food acids, no chemicals or ads or murder mysteries07:01
ActionParsnipGuest98268: VLC will also knock the screensaver timeout off :)07:02
crimsonmanei think you're point on clarity is an imagined one.07:02
MirtheNswitched from powerdvd to vlc years ago07:02
ActionParsnipGuest98268: its not in the wine appdb but considering the amount of native players for Linux why do you want to hold onto power dvd???07:03
TervingiDo you have a windows license?07:03
ActionParsnipTervingi: indeed07:03
Tervingiyou could virtual box it07:03
ActionParsnipTervingi: to the food bit07:03
lotuspsychjehowcome ubuntu-restrited-extras does not install by default?07:04
ActionParsnipGuest98268: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install libdvdread4; sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh; sudo apt-get upgrade07:05
Guest98268i'm using vlc &  powerdvd player on windows7, when cmp to vlc powerdvd player gives more clarity & sounds.07:05
Tervingilol07:05
ActionParsniplotuspsychje: licensing07:05
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TervingiGuest9826807:05
Guest98268Tervingi: yes07:05
lotuspsychjeActionParsnip: is that the option one can enable at install process? about other party software07:05
TervingiInstall Windows in a VM in Virtual BOX07:05
ActionParsnipGuest98268: you are free to try it in wine but I doubt it will work. Don't forget that linux is a completely different OS with differnet drivers and display methods07:05
MirtheNthats cause in vlc you have to actually know how to set the video up to your liking, you can make it just as clear/crisp/whatever as powerdvd will do, just need to enable advanced options07:06
Tervingithen run it with power dvd, hit ctrl+l07:06
Tervingiand it will look just like a Linux app07:06
Tervingibut you don't have to worry about a hassle getting it to work07:06
Guest98268ok07:06
ActionParsniplotuspsychje: yes, it is downloaded from the repos, it cannot be added to the ISO for licensing issues around the globe. Not all countries allow MP3 codecs etc07:06
TervingiXP would be better so you aren't wasting a ton of space and cpu07:06
captinehi all.  My Bluetooth doesnt seem to be picked up by 12.04.  Am using an Acer Aspire 4755G with a broadcom Bluetooth (I believe)07:06
lotuspsychjeActionParsnip: ok tnx understood07:06
MirtheNyeah can get one of the 'stipped' down versions of xp07:06
IsrafelThis morning's update caused my chrome to not play audio. Works in Firefox. I'm beginning to tire of Chrome "updates" breaking everything.07:07
Guest98268Tervingi: so without wind/ vm i cant install this right?07:07
ActionParsnipcaptine: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i blue     is it mentioned?07:07
TervingiIf it is a regular Windows app, then you would need either Wine or Virtual Machine.07:07
MirtheNyou can try using wine to install and run it, if it doesnt even get close to running using wine then you are stuck in a VM with windows07:07
TervingiVirtual machine is the only option if you want the hardware acceleration you are mentioning for the picture and sound07:07
TervingiPower DVD has linux software, perhaps they have a native version07:08
test--abc?07:08
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ActionParsnipIsrafel: if you close all instances of the browser and rename ~/.config/google-chrome     then rerun, is it better07:08
Guest98268ok07:08
Guest50596thedarkhaker@hotmail.com07:08
lotuspsychjelol07:08
Guest50596hi07:08
captineActionParsnip, yes, it does show up (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1153998/)07:08
Guest50596yes07:08
Guest50596new07:08
ActionParsnipGuest98268: so you are going to run both Windows and Linux at the same time for the sake of a DVD playback app....?07:08
diminotenanyone ever try playing video games in a virtual  machine?07:09
diminotensounds super novel07:09
Guest50596no07:09
test--abchow remove bash center - Software available for download07:09
ActionParsnipdiminoten: 2D should be ok, 3D I believe will struggle07:09
Tervinginothing like diablo 1 on a big screen baby!07:09
lotuspsychje!playonlinux | diminoten07:09
captineActionParsnip, but I dont seem to be able to turn it on in Ubuntu (under Bluetooth Settings, it says Bluetooth is disabled)07:09
diminotenplayonlinux sounds bleh07:09
lotuspsychje!info playonlinux | diminoten07:09
test--abchelp..07:09
Guest50596bleuthoot07:09
ubottudiminoten: playonlinux (source: playonlinux): front-end for Wine. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.0.14-1 (precise), package size 2031 kB, installed size 3594 kB07:09
Tervingibleck07:09
Tervingidon't go with play on linux07:10
ActionParsnipcaptine: can you pastebin the output of:  lsusb; lsb_release -a; uname -a       Thanks07:10
Tervingiit disempowers you through obfuscation of the workings of your os07:10
Guest50596thinks07:10
Guest98268ActionParsnip: not only for the sake of apps. Most of the time i will use linux, if something is not working on linux then i will login in windows..07:10
TervingiVirtual box can do hardware acceleration07:10
diminotenyeah07:10
diminoten!07:10
diminotengonna try it and report results07:10
Tervingiup to 256mb video memory07:10
ActionParsnipGuest98268: I guess, but Linux can do DVD playback just fine07:10
diminotengood enough for league of legends!07:10
MykleSeahi07:11
ActionParsniphi MykleSea07:11
MykleSeacan somebody help me with something regarding ubuntu07:11
captineActionParsnip, please see http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1154003/07:11
Guest98268ActionParsnip: i will do the steps u game me b407:11
MirtheNGuest98268: http://shop.canonical.com/powerdvd.pdf07:11
lotuspsychjeMykleSea:just ask your question mate07:11
diminotenwrong channel man!07:11
diminotenlol07:11
ActionParsnipcaptine: ok and the output of:  lspci      Thanks07:12
MykleSeaI am trying to automount  my usb to my ubuntu server using 'usbmount'...  ive installed it... but once i plug in my usb,  usb0 continues to be an empty directory.. how do i fix this?  usb0-7 are all empty07:12
MykleSeai will be  plugging in and unplugging my usb every so often which is why i wnat to use usbmount07:13
captineActionParsnip, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1154004/  Thanks for looking into this.  Please let me know what you are looking for etc?07:13
lotuspsychjeMykleSea:in what format are your usb sticks?07:13
MykleSeai believe its ntfs07:13
ActionParsnipMykleSea: when you come to unplug it, do you unmount it and eject it?07:13
MykleSeai can manually mount it07:13
lotuspsychje!ntfs | MykleSea07:13
ubottuMykleSea: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE07:13
MykleSeayes i unmount07:14
MykleSeai do not have any usb mounted at this moment. they are all unmounted.. but my usb0  will continue being empty even if i uninstall and install again07:15
ActionParsnipcaptine: the pastebins are all the detected hardware in the system07:16
TervingiMykleSea07:16
Tervingifdisk -l07:16
MykleSeayes07:16
TervingiThat will you show the device it is07:16
MykleSeayes07:16
Tervingiwhat device is it07:17
MykleSeaive done that.  ive manually mounted it using thtabefore.. but i dont want to manually mount it every time07:17
MykleSea its called "/dev/sdh107:17
TJ-anyone else getting "You triggered the wiki's surge protection by doing too many requests in a short time." from  https://help.ubuntu.com07:17
MykleSeayes i keep getting that07:17
MykleSeawhich is why im here asking :P07:17
lotuspsychjeTJ-:working fine here on firefox07:18
TJ-lotuspsychje: strange... apparently one request is too many :D07:20
ActionParsnip"Canonical is in the process of moving out of one data centre and into a new one."   nice07:20
lotuspsychjeTJ-:on what browser?07:20
rs3Hi all, my laptop stutters (mouse input, scrolling, screen updates, and sound) every ten seconds.  Does this on x86-pae and amd64 installs of 12.04.  Updated, no change.  No events show up when I monitor Xorg.0.log or syslog.  Using an Intel Core 2 Duo laptop with Intel 4500MHD graphics accelerator.  Any ideas?07:20
TJ-ActionParsnip: I thought the move was over now, according to the mailing-list yesterday07:20
TJ-lotuspsychje: Firefox07:20
Tervingidid you edit fstab Myklesea?07:20
lotuspsychjeTJ-:tryed it on another browser?07:20
ActionParsniptj-; just got that now07:20
MykleSeai did.. but i removed my edit07:20
MykleSeaits back to its original07:20
lotuspsychjers3:previous default Os on the laptop?07:20
TJ-OK, not just me. I think the front-end caching load-balancers don't have connections to the web servers yet... HTTP 50307:20
ActionParsnipcaptine: kinda similar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez-utils/+bug/28498207:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 284982 in bluez-utils (Ubuntu) "Bluetooth does not work at Acer Aspire 7520" [Undecided,Fix released]07:20
TJ-General capacity issue, not just me07:20
rs3lotuspsychje: Windows :/  haha.  Debian Wheezy does the same thing as Ubuntu 12.04 in this case, though.  Windows does not.07:20
Tervingiyou could just type #mount -a07:20
lotuspsychjers3:wich version of windows?07:20
TheOnlyLixok so guess what07:20
MykleSeaive done  mount -a07:20
Tervingiif you leave the edit in fstab07:20
ghrostPoptet, can you ping any website?17:26
gianni_777thank you sandyd17:26
L3topPotet: are you connected directly to the router/modem or is it possibly behind a firewall?17:26
blazingtruth_hey all, i'm getting this message at the end of my updates: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 8CD60EC94889401017:26
gianni_777yes is the flash plugin ..17:26
L3topghrost: he has internet access... just not the web admin for the device17:27
PotetYeah, it works17:27
gianni_777i've installed them in firefox but i can't see nothing yet17:27
Psi-JackPotet: Like I said, ##networking is your channel for that device. It's nothing related to Ubuntu at all.17:27
sandydgianni_777, does flash work with other flash sites?17:27
FreeMansMindHow do I make sure that my Graphic card driver is installed?17:29
vikrami installed moc from source ... but when i run it gives FATAL_ERROR: No valid sound driver17:29
PotetPsi-Jack, okay, I'm writing there now, just thought I could stay around when I got help. :)17:29
gianni_777sandyd oh...what can ido ??17:29
sandydgianni_777, does the flash ad at http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ show up?17:29
FriedsL3top, it says gflrx_pci17:31
Friedsso it looks like it's swapped over right17:31
L3topthen we are good Frieds :)17:31
Friedssweet17:31
tab1293is packages.ubuntu.com down for anyone else?17:31
gianni_777sandyd i'll try it right away17:31
Friedsbeside spending hours reading the wiki, any advice for a newb to learn linux17:31
sandydtab1293, must be the server move17:31
sandydits down for me as well17:31
ghrosttab1293, down here17:31
truexfan81are the ppas down also?17:31
L3topFrieds: look at all the bash scripts already on your machine. Run individual commands, figure out what they do. Do this in a virtual environment so if you destroy things you are safe.17:31
Friedsas long as I don't su/sudo myself17:31
tab1293sandyd, how can i install a specific package and its deps from the Quantal repos? i would usually just go to packages.ubuntu.com17:31
vikram i installed moc (music on console ) from source ... but when i run it gives FATAL_ERROR: No valid sound driver17:31
L3topFrieds: thats were all the fun is :)17:31
sandydtab1293, what package?17:31
FriedsI'm running this on a seperate box taht I can screw around with just to learn *nix again17:31
tab1293python-libtorrent sandyd17:31
datruth_Wow can't believe this is complicated17:31
FriedsI used to use FBSD years ago (think like 10+) so I'm loving the immersion in *nix culture again17:32
L3topFrieds: I would load up a virtual machine (virtualbox kvm vmware) and blow things up in there.17:32
sandydapt-get build-dep python-libtorrent , tab129317:32
Friedsbut where's the fun in that?17:32
blazingtruth_hey guys, can i get some help here?  | W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 8CD60EC94889401017:32
FriedsI want to be able to blow up my PC instead of using the Windows VM Machine on my laptop17:33
L3topFrieds: install ubuntu inside ubuntu and go reap havoc... because you can take snapshots, so when you blow things up, just reload the snapshot. Saves a lot of time.17:33
KommaHHey all. I have a question.17:33
L3topFrieds: Use the vm inside of Ubuntu17:33
Friedsany good vmwares you can recommend then?17:33
L3topnot windows17:33
sandydKommaH, ask away17:34
Friedsthere's a VM built in?17:34
L3topkvm17:34
KommaHsandyd: Will do. Gimmie a sec to type. :p17:34
FreeMansMindanyone?17:34
Friedslol <<---- clearly you can see how newbish I am here17:34
Wild_ManFrieds, I use virtualbax from there site17:34
L3topvirtualbox is more gui friendly for configuration Frieds.17:34
sandydblazingtruth_, sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8CD60EC94889401017:34
KommaHI need to run a script on startup. It needs to be in screen and run as another user (not root). How do I do this?17:34
douglerr how do I install a new hard drive in my 12.04 install? there is no fstab anymore and I want ext4 fs not 3 dont I?17:34
blazingtruthhey all17:35
LostSouli wish you all a very nice day =)17:35
FriedsHave a fantastic Day man17:35
L3topsandyd: I think blazingtruth would just need 48894010 in that17:35
blazingtruthsorry, i'm here. what'd i miss?17:35
sandydblazingtruth, sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 4889401017:36
sandydwhoops17:36
sandyddidn't see that.17:36
L3top:)17:36
sandydthanks L3top17:36
vikramwhere should i go ..??17:36
Kihokkisandyd, There was no effect :/ I got correct resolution working by  installing kernel 3.4.4 but no 2D acceleration and no VGA output17:38
gianni_777sandyd thank you very much!! it works ...i've downloaded it just now and it works..17:38
blazingtruthIt's not working, L3top17:39
Vlan_anyone with a SSD drive experiencing low write/read values even with AHCI support enabled?17:39
gianni_777have a nice day!!17:39
gianni_777hi17:39
blazingtruthoh, nevermind17:39
blazingtruthcopy pasted and it worked17:39
sandydKihokki, file a bug17:40
blazingtruththank you :)17:40
L3topgpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 48894010; gpg --export --armor 48894010 | apt-key add -              blazingtruth17:40
Kihokkisandyd, How?17:40
L3topok then17:40
sandydKihokki, some of the older HW support is a bit iffy at times17:40
KihokkiTo launchpad?17:40
sandydKihokki, yes17:40
L3topIgnore that big one then blazingtruth.17:40
blazingtruthOK. I'm also looking to improve battery life. would you have any recommendations?17:41
L3toplubuntu... lol17:41
sandydxubuntu as well17:42
sandydblazingtruth, you might also want to turn down the graphical effects17:43
sandydthose consume quite a lot of battery17:43
blazingtruthi think my problem is with nvidia17:43
Aquethys>___________________________________________<17:43
AquethysOh17:44
AquethysYay :D Ungagged17:44
AquethysGuys I have a question! Trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 and on the step where I can boot into Ubuntu and then click the Install Ubuntu on the desktop.17:44
AquethysDo I click install in windows or the other one17:45
Aquethys(choose a partition)17:45
sandydAquethys, what is your partition setup?17:46
AquethysErr not sure. I think it's all C drive17:46
Aquethysfor windows 817:46
sandydAquethys, then select windows17:46
cheweyI've just screwed myself - with lots of help by EFI: After installing Ubuntu with an EFI parition, the F2 key is dead and the F12 key of the initial boot screen send me to a "graphical" boot menu only containing "ubuntu".17:47
cheweyAny idea how I can get it to boot from an external drive again?17:47
chewey(it's a Fujitsu Lifebook AH532 NG)17:47
OerHeksAquethys, windows8 isn't out yet, so why do you think we can help?17:48
sandyd*alongside windows17:48
AquethysI will screenshot it and post it for you, just to be safe :P17:48
AquethysWell it's similar to windows 7..17:48
AquethysHere's the partition thing17:49
Aquethyshttps://dl.dropbox.com/u/74356743/partitions.PNG17:49
AquethysInstall inside windows?17:49
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sandydAquethys, you have the maximum amount of partitions for a MBR partition table17:49
AquethysIs that bad?17:49
Aquethyscan I remove one (like the unallocated? idk how that got there)17:50
sandydwell, you can't install Ubuntu on a partition Aquethys17:50
Aquethysso install alongside windows?17:50
sandydAquethys, you can only install via wubi I believe17:51
OerHeksyou can, on 'unallocated'17:51
Aquethysoh17:51
AquethysHow big of a difference is there?17:51
sandydOerHeks, I believe the uallocated is unpartitioned space17:51
ghrostsandyd, but like you said he can't use that partition17:51
sandydghrost, wubi17:52
sandydinstalls inside windows.17:52
The_CogAll 4 primary partitions are used, so he can't get at the unused 23 Gig17:52
sandydAquethys, not sure, youll have to ask someone else17:52
OerHeksthis screen is not from a wubi install, but the normal (sidebyside) install17:52
ghrostsandyd, MBR does not support more than 4 partitions17:52
sandydNever used wubi17:52
AquethysWhat's mbr17:52
L3topwubi is da debil.17:52
L3topAquethys: master boot record17:52
sandydghrost, that is what I said17:52
sandydwhich is why I am telling Aquethys to install via wubi17:52
AquethysOh17:52
AquethysOkay17:52
ghrostsandyd, so he needs a extended partition17:53
OerHeksghrost +117:53
AquethysWell the point of me installing Ubuntu is to code Android so will it matter whether it's Wubi or not?17:53
sandydbecause there is no other way Aquethys can install17:53
AquethysI still would prefer a permanent17:53
sandydYou can't create an extended partition when you already have 4 partitions.17:53
L3topghrost: +217:53
Wild_ManAquethys the only way you can install without using wubi is to delete one of your primary partitions17:53
ghrostL3top, sorry I'm new here, what is that +number17:54
sandydAquethys, I would probably remove the HP tools partition17:54
sandydand save the stuff from there17:54
L3topmeans I second your position ghrost17:54
OerHeksghrost, +1 means we agree with you17:54
AquethysIs that an important partition?17:54
ghrostL3top, :)17:54
Wild_ManAquethys, usually people delete the recovery partition after making there recovery cd's of window17:54
Sidewinder1ghrost, Usually "+1" means 'I agree'.17:54
AquethysOh could you walk me through that Wald Man17:54
AquethysWild* I need to do that :P17:55
* L3top pretends there are two people here who agree.17:55
Sidewinder1;-)17:55
sandyd:D17:55
BluesKajWild_Man, I count 3 primaries , he can use the unallocated one , unless the recovery counts as aprimary17:55
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Aquethysthere's 3 primaries17:56
AquethysAt least that's what I see in the disk management17:56
BluesKajhe's allowed 4 primaries17:56
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sandydwait, isn't system reserved one?17:56
ghrostBlueskaj, Recovery( Primary partition)17:56
AquethysOh17:56
Aquethyscrud you're right sandy lol17:56
AquethysMousing over it it is primary17:57
Aquethysuh oh17:57
Aquethysso what's HP Tools used for? Can I just format it?17:57
sandydAquethys, so you should follow Wild_Man 's advice, and remove the recovery partition17:57
sandydAssuming you have made recovery discs that is17:57
AquethysHow do I do that? Ihaven't yet17:57
ghrostAquethys, it is usually diagnostic stuff17:57
Aquethysmake a recovery disk17:57
Wild_ManSandyd, I am sure it is a primary partition but it is hard to tell from the screenshot17:57
AquethysI have an hp 4.7GB DVD now17:57
sandydYou can either remove the recovery or the HP tools partition.17:57
BluesKajghrost, ok, but most ppl dump the windows recovery partition ..it's quite useless anyway17:58
Kihokkisandyd,  I found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1025719 but where are the updates then?17:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1025719 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Package cedarview-vaapi-driver" [Wishlist,Fix released]17:58
ghrostBluesKaj, yes I think he can get rid of recovery andredieb hp_tools17:58
Wild_ManAquethys, make sure to create your recovery cd's first17:58
sandydKihokki, hasn't been [aclaged yet17:58
sandyd*packaged17:58
Aquethyshow? :|17:58
Aquethysit's 16GB and I have a bunch of 4.7GB CDs...is that okay?17:59
sandydAquethys, http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&docname=c0186712417:59
Wild_ManAquethys, type recovery cd into the help window and it will tell you how17:59
sandydAquethys, yes17:59
Aquethysthanks17:59
BluesKajghrost, exactly17:59
Kihokkisandyd, Do you know when? I've waited this for about 3 months17:59
sandydKihokki, no idea, you will have to ask MOTU bout that18:00
sandydor whoever is the maintainer of that package18:00
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Kihokkisandyd, Okay, well I will look for them :p18:01
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petisnnakeHello, I installed python 3.1, apache2 and mod_wsgi enabled. What do I need to do next to actually have an app running on my localhost?18:03
samfromati'm getting some errors continuously. can anyone tell what these means. http://pastebin.com/My3Pxmup18:03
AquethysHow do I get to HP recovery manager in windows 8? :|18:03
Wild_ManAquethys, type recovery cd into help or search and it should lead you to it18:04
Jarrydx26Aquethys: You will find it on HP website :)18:04
wilee-nileeAquethys, if you are still within the HP insurance I would call them I suspect you can get a full OEM recovery disc set rather cheap probably 30$, for a secondary backup as well just to be covered18:05
Aquethysbrb18:06
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Jarrydx26My HP laptop is 2 years old . I still play games like crazy :) . Plus i been using it without battery for a year and no problems at all18:07
diminotenwhat are these three packages? GMP 4.2+, MPFR 2.4.0+ and MPC 0.8.0+18:07
diminotennevermidn18:08
Jarrydx26GIMP 4.2 ? I'm still using GIMP 2.6 , i need a upgrade18:09
L3topJarrydx26: I believe gmp is gnome music player18:10
eme442hello. how do i make all wireless be turned off by default at bootup on my laptop?18:10
samfromati have got these errors. can anyone tell me what these mean? http://pastebin.com/My3Pxmup18:10
Kihokkisandyd, My hands are shaking, I enabled precice-proposed updates and the package showed up in proposed drivers list! But what is DKMS driver?18:11
sandydKihokki, auto build18:11
sandydit rebuilds itself each kernel update18:11
sandydis safe and normal18:11
KihokkiSo, I just need to update my kernel? How?18:11
Jarrydx26Oh L3top lol ,i dont have my glasses on ,thanks for the correction18:11
sandydKihokki, you don't need to18:12
Wild_Maneme442, go to network manager top right corner of the screen and click on enable wireless to uncheck it18:12
sandydKihokki, just install the proposed driver :)18:12
sandydUbuntu manages the rest18:12
Kihokkisandyd, I did that, all that remains is restart? :D18:13
sandydKihokki, yes18:13
KihokkiHorray! Well I hope this works now, restarting now...18:13
Wild_ManKihokki, cross your fingers18:13
tux__hello, i am new to lvm ... i made a mistake and named my lvm at installation wrong. now i changed the names with lvmrename and ubuntu starts in grub rescue mode. how can i repair grub?18:14
NewtothisQuick question: I installed Ubuntu via the Windows installer because my computer was being difficult regarding any other installation methods, and now I'd like to know how to make Ubuntu the only operating system on my machine. Any help?18:14
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k1lNewtothis: make a new install18:15
samfromatNewtothis, Just boot your computer with ubuntu media(cd/dvd) and follow installation method. choose the windows partition for installation.18:16
k1lNewtothis: the wubi isntall is just a container inside the windows partition.18:16
eme442@Wild_Man: ok, thanx18:17
Newtothissamfromat: That's the thing, my computer doesn't like booting from the flash drive, and we can't get a CD to burn properly.18:17
sandydNewtothis, can't get a cd to burn properly?18:18
Jordan_UNewtothis: How did you try to burn a CD?18:18
sandydNewtothis, tried imgburn? http://www.imgburn.com/18:18
NewtothisAh. I had just used the windows one...18:19
samfromatNewtothis: if you want to say that you can't use any of the physical mediam to boot your computer, then there is network boot system. sombody other than me might help you.18:19
fijilhhi18:20
nejodeNewtothis, you have to be careful when you burn the CD... make sure you burn it as "iso image"18:20
NewtothisI'm gonna see if I can't make the CD burn right this time... it might even be easier to burn it on Ubuntu itsself...18:21
Sniper_5If anyone has some free time I could really use some help with Eclipse18:21
loganrunI am having issues with two new SATA hard drives. I am thinking it might be an issue with the Ubuntu drivers or something. Does anyone understand the errors in the dmesg log? http://pastebin.com/dVL54A4M18:21
Jarrydx26Sniper_5 try Netbeans , its much less on errors than eclipse18:22
Sniper_5Im trying to set up Android SDK and ADT18:22
loganrunI am thinking of trying an older version of ubuntu or something, not sure what to do18:22
loganrunI have tried switching around the cables, but that didn't help18:23
sandydloganrun, its an interface problem18:23
Sniper_5Does NetBeans accept the Android SDK and ADT like Eclipse? Im new to developing so I was going to use the guides for Eclipse which is why I chose that18:23
sandydEither your interface has dust or something, or your HDDs are shot18:23
loganrunsandyd: is it a hardware or software issue though. issue with the motherboard cabels or what18:24
sandydhardware18:24
sandydloganrun, try swaping the sata cable18:24
sandyd*ports18:24
ravenhow to mount partitions of a raw diskdump?18:24
loganrunsandyd: I hooked the harddrives up to another system through a eternal usb/sata interface and ran the seagate test on them and they came out fine18:24
sandydloganrun, you have an intel sandybridge chipset?18:25
Jarrydx26Sniper_5 i suggest netbeans , I'm sure there is an Android plugin avaliable for it , but its up to you :)18:25
sandydwhat MB model is it?18:25
loganrunsandyd: i did try swapping the cables around and plugging them into different ports, but that didn't seem to solve it, the CPU is dual core Intel, should be in the dmesg log, forget teh actual make of it18:25
Sniper_5Ill gladly try it Jarrydx26, Im open to anything right now because Im used to everything on 10.10, I cant get it working on Eclipse18:26
loganrunsandyd: the motherboard is gigabyte ga -965p-s318:27
Guest35233hi18:27
Sidewinder1Newtothis, First, md5sum your ISO to make sure it's correct; then, when burning, make sure to burn at the slowest speed.18:27
sandydloganrun, we can't help you here, due to the fact that it isn't a ubuntu (software) problem18:27
sandydThe best thing to do is to call up Gigabyte, and ask them, or else ask in ##harware18:28
loganrunsandyd: o.k but I just wanted to make sure it was not a driver incompatibility issue with the motherboard, how can you tell18:28
sandyd*hardware18:28
Guest35233i need new distro for ordinary work....any suggest?:)18:28
loganrunsandyd: o.k. I'll try on hardware18:29
sandydloganrun, DRDY ERR, ICRC ABRT, and other errors in the dmesg are an indicator of either HW failure or problems18:29
Guest35233?!18:29
NewtothisI've Md5summed it before. I know it's the correct ISO.18:30
Sidewinder1Newtothis, Did you burn it at the slowest speed?18:30
NewtothisI'm actually not sure.18:31
Sidewinder1That's usually best.18:31
Sidewinder1Newtothis, When burning a video, a misplaced bit, here and there isn't a big deal; in an entire operation system.. well. you know what I mean. ;)18:32
NewtothisYeah. I see where you're going. :P18:33
marsfligthHi, can you explain me in short what 'apt-get dselect-upgrade' does? I read many man's and forums, but honestly it's function is not clear to me. Thanks for reading18:35
Michelhey if i do the ubuntu default installation on my first disk18:36
Michelcan i use the other disk later?18:36
Michelfor storage18:36
recon_lapMichel: yes18:36
cellofellowAnybody have tips for getting Empathy to work with Google Talk and Google Voice?18:37
Zatoxxxhumm i'm interrested too :)18:37
Michelrecon_lap, how18:37
recon_lapMichel: you can add the drive to your fstab file to auto mount it, also disk manager can mount it as well18:38
TJ-Michel: I'm with you now :)18:39
arooni-mobilei have a huge curl request that i have stored as a file.  how can i execute this command without copying/pasting18:40
cellofellowarooni-mobile: you can put it in a file, with the first line the bash shebang (#!/bin/bash) and then chmod +x it. Then you can just ./mycurlscript18:41
marsfligthHi, can you explain me in short what exactly 'apt-get dselect-upgrade' does?18:41
MythUserAny MythTV expert here?18:42
dmechat18:42
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MythUserI'm having a problem with MythTV not connecting to the database backend and the forums is down for who knows how long so I cannot check there18:43
blackgatonegrois there a guide to add a second monitor to ubuntu or something?18:44
samfromatblackgatonegro:yes there are guides available at the forums. just wait for forums to up and running18:45
MythUseranyone know how to get mythtv fronted to connect to the backend database?  both are on the same machine18:46
NOsenanyone know how to graph usage of diffrent protocols on the network with rrdtool (like cisco NBAR but for linux) ?18:46
SkippersBoss blackgatonegro look at Xorg and tweak with xrandr18:48
NewtothisLet's see if this DVD works...:/18:51
gunarmif I take my RAID drives out of my computer and put them in another computer, or just reformat the OS, my understanding is that as long as that computer has mdadm it will fix any problems in the array and bring it online, is it still this simple if I put an LVM layer on top of it?18:52
ikoniagunarm: no chance18:52
Psi-Jackikonia: Software RAID, mdadm. :)18:52
Psi-JackHe just forgot to mention that part.18:52
ikoniastill no chance with lvm on top18:52
gunarmPsi-Jack, thanks ;)18:52
Psi-JackPardon?18:52
Psi-Jackikonia: With LVM on top, it's perfectly plausible/.18:52
Psi-JackYou just have to import them.18:53
ikoniaI suspect the Vg's will not come on line18:53
samfromati have these logs. What these means? http://pastebin.com/My3Pxmup18:53
ikoniayou maybe ok if you do a vgexport before removing the disks and then a vgimport18:53
NOsenits more of a "do i dare" yes or no question18:53
gunarmPsi-Jack, but it sounds like even if its plausible it certainly adds a nontrivial amount of complication to the process18:53
Psi-Jackgunarm: For the LVM portion, you'll need to /export/ the LVM volumes, before moving them.18:53
NewtothisI think it is... what's this keyboard equals man in a circle?18:54
ikoniaPsi-Jack: all on board with that18:54
gunarmi think im just gonna avoid LVM since i dont really need it anyway, i was just considering it for future flexibility18:54
Psi-JackLVM is nice, and worthwhile.18:54
Psi-Jackgunarm: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/recipemovevgtonewsys.html18:54
NewtothisWait... that's gone... okay. I'll just let it do its thing for now.18:54
Psi-Jackikonia: So, there you go. LVM moved to another system. ;)18:56
ikoniaPsi-Jack: I don't disagree if you do an export first18:56
Psi-Jackhehe18:57
ikoniapulling the disks and just putting them in, more pain18:57
Psi-JackIndeed.18:57
FreeMansMindHello again.18:57
FreeMansMindCan some buddy please tell me how to make sure that I have my Graphic Card driver installed? (Ubuntu 12.04 LTS)18:58
jdieselwhere can I find help setting up weechat ? Is this the right channel for help w that ?18:59
i7cjdiesel: #weechat ;)18:59
jdieselthanks18:59
jdieselthat was simple19:00
i7c;)19:00
samfromatFreeMansMind: Which graphics card are you using?19:00
Moonlightning… o.o;19:00
NewtothisPreparing to install Ubuntu.... okay... if I replace Windows 7 with Ubuntu, will that get rid of the old Ubuntu installation I had that I used Windows 7 to create?19:01
tiberio_dit will give you options during the install, do you want 2 ubuntu installs?19:02
smwNewtothis, yes, but then you would lose windows 719:02
smwNewtothis, are you sure you want to do this?19:02
samfromatNewtothis: if you have install ubuntu on the same drive where windows was install then it will get rid of it.19:02
smwNewtothis, you will lose all your programs, settings, an documents in windows19:02
Psi-JackNewtothis: When you delete /ALL/ partitions, and re-create them and format them, you will remove everything.19:02
Newtothissmw: Yes, I'm certain. I got this computer specifically so I could have a Linux computer for work and whatnot. I don't have anything on Windows.19:02
MoonlightningMy laptop just died, in the middle of a huge software update…I think it was even upgrading the kernel, too…it seems to have actually /shut down/, as if with `shutdown -h now`, rather than just killing the power suddenly…is there anything I need to do, or should I just `apt-get upgrade` again?19:03
smwNewtothis, needed to make sure :-)19:03
TaJMoXI'm looking for the Rhythmbox preference file because on my "watched folders" it just says "Multiple locations" and I'd like to see what those are.19:03
DebolazAside from putting in a cron job, is there a way to get the system to update completely automatically? Ie, some configuration option?19:03
smwNewtothis, in that case, if you have ubuntu format your entire drive... it will delete everything that was there previously19:03
L3topMoonlightning: whether or not it will be problematic depends on if it was downloading things, or installing them19:03
MoonlightningIt was installing (I think).19:03
samfromatMoonlightning: just use 'apt-get upgrade' again.19:04
TimothyAwhat happened to mirror.cc.columbia.edu ?19:04
L3topMoonlightning: sudo dpkg --configure -a19:04
MoonlightningBy the way, thanks for your earlier suggestion about `nomodeset`. ^^19:04
L3topMoonlightning: then upgrade again19:04
L3topnp19:04
Moonlightning`dpkg --configure -a` then `apt-get upgrade`?19:04
Newtothissmw:  Pardon my ignorance, but would I want to pick replace Windows 7 with Ubuntu, or "Something Else?"19:04
TimothyAand is there a command in ubuntu to replace the sources list with different recommended official repositories on the fly?19:05
smwNewtothis, I don't know the exact options to choose from19:05
smwNewtothis, if one of the options is "replace windows 7", I would say that sounds right19:06
TaJMoXIs it possible to force Rhythmbox to re-scan folders for media?19:06
NewtothisI suppose I can try again and just format the whole damn thing if all else fails...19:06
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smwTimothyA, different recommended repos?19:06
TimothyAsmw: yes19:06
smwwhat does that mean?19:06
TimothyAif there is a command to swap out the current configuration with a different one19:06
samfromatNewtothis: if you want to partition the whole hard disk the choose 'something else' ,if you dont the just 'replace windows7'19:07
TimothyAor, I don't know... if there is somewhere a list online with available repositories?19:07
smwTimothyA, just move your new list to /etc/apt/sources.list19:07
TimothyAsmw: I don't have a new list19:07
TimothyAwhere do I get a new list19:07
smwTimothyA, why do you want a new list?19:07
gompahow to install rocket raid 2320 on ubuntu 12.04 ?19:07
smwwhy do you think there is a new list?19:07
TimothyAbecause the repository doesn't work19:07
TimothyAhttp://mirror.cc.columbia.edu it's broken. it's kaput. it doesn't respond.19:08
smw!doesn't work | TimothyA19:08
ubottuTimothyA: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.19:08
TimothyAsmw: ..... trigger happy?19:08
smwlol19:08
TimothyAI already asked prior why mirror.cc.columbia.edu was down with no response.19:08
smwTimothyA, ok, so you used to use a custom mirror?19:09
TimothyAno19:09
TimothyAthis is what came with the installation19:09
smwTimothyA, please pastebin what is in your /etc/apt/sources.list19:09
smwTimothyA, how did you install it?19:09
TimothyAwhat's this channel's endeared pastebin?19:10
TimothyAsmw: put in disk. hit install.19:10
TimothyAhttp://pastebin.com/1pQcb6ny19:10
smwTimothyA, I personally use fpaste, I don't know what the channel uses19:10
Xtremeauronandace, are you here?19:10
smwTimothyA, was it a special disk?19:11
TimothyAno19:11
TimothyAserver edition, downloaded from the ubuntu site19:12
smwTimothyA, There is no reason these should be here19:12
TimothyAwell, they are there19:12
TimothyAwhat *should* they be?19:12
smwone sec19:13
smwTimothyA, http://fpaste.org/Ewpu/19:13
Psi-JackTimothyA: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/19:13
smwTimothyA, that is what is on mine. You may want to comment out backports and partner19:14
scott_zI want to buy a pcmcia card to give my laptop usb 3.0. All the cards I found do not include linux drivers (as i would expect). Can anyone tell me if this would be supported by ubuntu or can anyone recommend a specific card that is known to work? Here is the one I am looking to buy.  http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007TPYKUU/ref=asc_df_B007TPYKUU2136463?smid=ATJ1HHEILSBYQ&tag=dealtmp52156-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395105&creativeASIN=B007TPYKUU19:14
devslashi used to be able to log into my ssh server using an sftp client and all of a  sudden if i try to upload any files i get an "unspecified error"19:14
gunarmin mdadm raid6, if one of 6 drives is 5600 rpm instead of 7200 does it bottleneck the whole thing down to that speed?19:14
smwTimothyA, (although, I like them)19:14
brennanhow do i configure kppp??19:14
smwTimothyA, can you figure out the rest?19:15
TimothyAreplacing them atm19:15
devslashcan anyone help me19:16
devslashi used to be able to log into my ssh server using an sftp client and all of a  sudden if i try to upload any files i get an "unspecified error". I've checked the permissions on the folder and they are correct19:16
TimothyAthat seems to workk19:17
nejodedevslash, have you checked available free space un the server's drives?19:18
devslashoh man no19:18
devslashyoure right19:18
devslashthe disk is full19:18
devslashbesides /tmp is there another location i can delete files to free up space19:19
ActionParsnipdevslash: removing old kernels can help that, as well as run:  sudo apt-get clean    assuming you mean the system partition19:19
devslashit freed up just a tiny amount of space19:20
nejodedevslash, check out /var/log too19:20
ActionParsnipdevslash: if you run:  uname -a   you will see the running kernel19:20
MoonlightningRemove packages you don't need?19:20
ActionParsnipdevslash: if you run:  dpkg -l | grep linux-image    you will see the installed kernels19:20
devslashcan i safely remove everything in /var/log19:20
brennanhow do i operate kppp?????????19:21
ActionParsnipdevslash: you can uninstall any kernels you want except the running kernel and the metapackage (one without version numbers in the name)19:21
Moonlightningdevslash: those are just logs. /You/ might want them for some reason, but deleting them won't cause any problems with the system (as far as I know).19:21
ActionParsnipdevslash: could uninstall libreoffice to free space and install bleachbit to free more space19:21
Moonlightningbleachbit?19:21
ActionParsnipMoonlightning: indeed19:22
ActionParsnipdevslash: run it as both your user then as root and have as many apps closed as possible, avoid commads that state they will take a long time19:22
ActionParsnip!info bleachbit19:22
ubottubleachbit (source: bleachbit): delete unnecessary files from the system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-1 (precise), package size 319 kB, installed size 1710 kB19:22
Moonlightning…unless you don't mind waiting a long time. ;)19:22
FreeMansMindsamformat; Intel® IGD x86/MMX/SSE219:22
devslashActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/MwjS1h5619:23
nabamhi, I just installed ubuntu on my laptop, wifi doesn't seem to work.  The output of 'rfkill list all' showed that my wifi was hard blocked.  Pressing the wifi button doesn't seem to let me get around this.  My laptop model is compaq prescario cq50-115nr and I'm using ubuntu 10.04 i38619:23
nabamhow can I enable my wifi?19:23
devslashActionParsnip: thats the output for dpkg -l | grep linux-image19:24
ActionParsnipdevslash: what is the output of:  uname -a19:24
devslashLinux ubuntu 3.2.0-29-generic-pae #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:25:43 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux19:24
devslashcan i safely delete the older images in /boot ?19:24
ActionParsnipdevslash: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic-pae linux-image-3.2.0-26-generic-pae linux-image-3.2.0-27-generic-pae19:24
ActionParsnipdevslash: should free up about 400Mb19:25
devslash33819:25
ActionParsnipdevslash: close :)19:25
devslashyea19:25
Moonlightningnabam: my laptops onboard Wi-Fi didn't work out of the box under Debian, and I think it doesn't work out of the box under Ubuntu, either19:25
devslashis there anything else i can safely purge19:25
MoonlightningIIRC, though, it was just a simple `apt-get install` that did it for me. I don't remember what package it was, though 6_919:25
nabamI installed the latest compat-wireless drivers19:26
ashihi19:26
samfromatFreeMansMind:'you can check it by 'lspci | grep VGA', it will show you the installed video card.19:26
devslashActionParsnip: i only have 711MB free19:26
ashianybody want help19:26
tiberio_dsure, in sound options my hdmi output isn't listed19:27
tiberio_dif i do aplay -l i get card 1: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]19:27
scott_zdevslash: just started folllowing, you might want to delete your browser cache. dont know if someone suggested this or if you already did this. hope this helps19:28
devslashi don't have a browser cache19:28
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devslashin fact I don't have X installed19:28
scott_zdevslash: sorry worth a try.19:28
devslashnp19:28
ActionParsnipdevslash: install bleachbit and you can free more space, close as many apps as possible19:29
ActionParsnipdevslash: also uninstall apps  you don't use19:29
devslashwhats bleach bit do19:29
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tiberio_ddoes anyone know why my hdmi sound output wouldn't be listed in sound settings?19:30
nabamI also tried brining my wireless card up with ifconfig, no luck, I tried rfkill unblock all, still no luck.  The button still doesn't seem to work to enable wireless19:31
cellofellowdevslash: I think what it does is it deletes unneeded files, and it also randomizes your empty space for security.19:31
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scott_znabam: do you have an internal broadcom card?19:32
nabamscott_z: atheros, but internal yes19:33
douglI just finished doing a sudo tar -cvzf /home/username/archive.tgz /media/olddrives/ and now I try to open/read the file in midnight commander and it does not open... what do you use to backup folders in 12.04?19:33
Moonlightningtar19:34
* Moonlightning gigglesnickers19:34
douglMoonlightning, that is what I thot but will not open in Midnight commander19:35
nabamdougl: you're still going to have to decompress before mc can read your archive I believe19:35
urlwolfhat would be the equiv ubuntu packages for our: libx1119:35
urlwolf…: libx1119:35
devslashActionParsnip: does bleach bit use a gui or can it be run from the command line19:35
urlwolfhat would be the equiv ubuntu packages for archlinux libx11 libxft and freetype2?19:36
scott_znabam: I had the same problem when I upgraded my kernel a few versions back. Still have not gotten it to work. Bought a usb wifi and it fixed the problem. I reinstalled with the 12.04 cd and it fixed the problem but the minute i ran all the upgrades it stopped working again. Still working on it. Sorry.19:36
herman_shouldn't the forums be up already?19:37
gunarmi cant figure out why my file system is mounted so that I need sudo to mount to it19:37
trismurlwolf: to compile with? look for the -dev packages, such as libx11-dev libxft-dev libfreetype6-dev19:37
gunarmsorry wrong19:37
urlwolftrism: nope, tried that19:38
W4spgunarm: Whatever you're trying to express you can edit /etc/fstab...?19:38
gunarmi cant figure out why my file system is mounted so that I need sudo to write to it.  at first I mounted /dev/md0 to /vault with su, then i made a /vault under /media/vault and mouted it with just sudo, still i cant "echo test > /mount/vault/test.txt"19:38
trismurlwolf: what are you trying to do?19:38
ActionParsnipdevslash: it has both, you'l see 2 entries in dash for it19:38
urlwolftrism: trying to compile goomwwm, see: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/go/goomwwm/PKGBUILD19:39
gunarmW4sp, yes, i can edit it, but this isn't listed there since I just mounted it with mount19:40
FreeMansMindsamfromat this is the result of the code u gave me lspci | grep VGA :  00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller19:40
devslashActionParsnip: i installed it as far as i can tell it uses python and is a guy only app19:40
trismurlwolf: built fine here19:40
devslashgui19:40
urlwolftrism: what did you do? type $make?19:41
trismurlwolf: yep just make, what error do you get?19:41
ActionParsnipdevslash: checck:  man bleachbit19:41
urlwolffor me it says: Package xinerama was not found in the pkg-config search path19:41
tiberio_ddoes anyone know why my hdmi sound output wouldn't be listed in sound settings? it shows up lspci as "02:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Juniper HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5700 Series]" but in sound settings it's not there, there's only integrated sound card19:41
trismurlwolf: libxinerama-dev19:41
devslashActionParsnip: i did19:42
devslashthe man for bleach bit is very small19:42
urlwolftrism: thanks!19:42
samfromatFreeMansMide: It seems you have default intel drivers install for your video card. i think these should work fine.19:42
ActionParsnipdevslash: http://bleachbit.sourceforge.net/documentation/command-line19:43
ActionParsnipdevslash: source: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bleachbit+command+line19:44
FreeMansMindsamfromat well I was not sure cause its like Windows 7 works faster then Ubuntu in this netbook. I am so confused. I am afraid of having something wrong. Like running ubuntu in wrong way or something imported is missing dunno.19:45
threex5Hi, is there any way to boot Ubuntu in 32/64 bit mode? I want to run from a USB, in 64 bit, but be able to run in 32 bit mode if I'm on a 32 bit computer19:46
ActionParsnipthreex5: there are apps to make multiboot USBs19:47
tiberio_dif ubuntu on your netbook is too slow you could try Lubuntu19:48
threex5ActionParsnip, thanks. I would like to have all my folders/settings intact, though19:49
threex5meaning, I would be booting from a 32 or 64 bit kernel, but the desktop would be the same19:49
threex5I don't know if that's now it works, though.19:49
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jc_well you can try xubuntu or lubuntu, but it depends of your ram19:50
ActionParsnipthreex5: you could have a common /home partition on the USB which would give settings for both boots...19:50
MoonlightningI'm…really not sure how to describe this other than “the display is messed up” 6_919:51
cellofellowthreex5: that'd be the way to do it, but'd it be hard to pull off.19:51
MoonlightningThe…colors are all wrong…and…the whole thing has a sort of grainy quality?…19:51
threex5Well, ActionParsnip was on to something19:51
auronandaceMoonlightning: screenshots to the rescue!19:51
MoonlightningI can hardly see any of the graphics, or read any of the text…19:51
fggghello19:51
Moonlightning…ah, yes, of cousre.19:52
threex5and if I use portable linux apps, I could run them out of the home partition too19:52
amir__hello19:52
MoonlightningHang on.19:52
fgggI have a problem with wine,can I tell?19:52
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Guest9431yes..19:52
threex5what do you folks recommend? Is it worth running 64 bit?19:52
auronandace!wine | fggg19:52
ubottufggg: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu19:52
Moonlightning…agh, how do I take a screenshot?19:52
threex5I figure if I have a 64 bit desktop and laptop, I'm wasting CPU not to19:52
Guest9431best gnome distro?19:52
Guest9431like chkra19:52
FreeMansMindtiberio_d what is missing in Lubuntu? I mean what makes it work faster?19:52
OerHeksMoonlight hit the printscreen button19:52
auronandacethreex5: if your hardware supports it then there is little reason not to run 64bit19:53
MoonlightningDon't have one.19:53
jagginessanyone has tried desura?19:53
MoonlightningThis is an old PowerBook G4…19:53
Moonlightningscreenshots in OS X are just shift-command-319:53
OerHeksMoonlightning, type screenshot in dash19:53
samfromat:FreeMansMing: There shouldn't be any problem with your video card drivers. tell what problems are you facing.19:53
threex5auronandace: right. The only reason I can see is that I'm running on a USB stick so I might want to boot off a computer that's not 64, once in a while.19:54
tiberio_dFreeMansMind Lubuntu uses LXDE instead of GNOME19:55
auronandacethreex5: then you'll want to stick to 32, since it will work on both19:55
fgggsorry,is there a irc chanell about wine?19:55
fgggsorry,is there a irc chanell about wine?19:55
FreeMansMindsamfromat; No specific trouble here. It's just acting like Windows, Maybe I dreamed wrong about ubuntu, dunno. I was expecting faster and lighter moves. Folders are not opening faster then Windows can.19:55
auronandacefggg: #winehq19:55
fgggalways in freenod?19:56
auronandacefggg: yes, its on freenode19:56
FreeMansMindits just only faster on starting pc. or shutting down. Rest is acting just like Windows. this is why I am thinking that something might be wrong. dunno19:56
samfromatFreeMansMind:Thats definitely not a video card issue. how long are you using ubuntu?19:57
skorvhello19:58
FreeMansMindsamfromat been used old version for a month but the last version is since yesterday19:58
crimsonmaneFreeMansMind: perhaps you need to try a lighter weight desktop environment. unity is fairly heavy.19:58
xuserrhello19:59
MoonlightningThe screenshot doesn't seem to reflect the issue, except for the wallpaper.19:59
MoonlightningWhich…is that /supposed/ to be like that?…20:00
threex5auronandace: how much of a performance hit do you take running 32 bit ubuntu on a 64 bit machine?20:00
skorvstrugling with full disk encryption and dual boot dont know where to install grub (cannot be /dev/sda)20:00
threex5I don't really see the difference20:00
MoonlightningIn any case, just imagine the /whole thing/ looks like the wallpaper. XD20:00
Moonlightninghang on…20:00
threex5but I don't know what I'm looking for either20:00
samfromatFreeMansMide: as crimsonmane told you, use another envionment or in my opinion try other ubuntu derivatives, best choice maybe something like linux mint.20:00
tiberio_dthe main difference with 32 bit os on 64 bit computer would be ram limit20:00
xuserrdoes anyone know a alternative to tor,browser? a program used to change ip for linux ?20:01
auronandacethreex5: i think it depends on what you are doing, everyday use i would say is negligable20:01
xuserrtor browser*20:01
Moonlightningxuserr: there are TOR clients for Linux20:01
FreeMansMindcrimsonmane: shall I try Gnome?20:01
TaJMoXDoes anyone here use rhythmbox with a mp3 player (not Android or iPod) ?20:01
xuserri want another program like tor20:02
threex5ok. The most resource-intensive thing I would run on it would be gimp20:02
threex5if that gives you any idea20:02
crimsonmaneFreeMansMind: Lubuntu20:02
threex5The most ambitious think I would like to do with it is run Reaper through wine20:02
auronandacethreex5: then you won't notice a difference20:02
threex5but I use 32 bit reaper anyway20:02
ActionParsnipxuserr: could use a vpn20:02
threex5ok20:02
FreeMansMindsamfromat can I do anything with mint that I do in ubuntu?20:02
crimsonmaneyou can do anything on mint that you can do in ubuntu20:02
xuserrActionParsnip: xuserr: could use a vpn ?20:03
ActionParsnipxuserr: why do you need tor?20:03
threex5great I'm glad I asked. I'm looking at the ubuntu website now and getting mixed messages about installing to USB20:03
xuserryes20:03
MothraHow do I fix the promisions on my ubuntu account I have some files that I do not have promissions for even after running chown command of the entire home folder in terminal as sudo anyone able to help me20:03
threex5Can I not simply burn a disc, boot from it, then install my partitions to usb like I would any other drive?20:03
crimsonmaneMothra: you're not supposed to run chown like that. you broke it. reinstall.20:03
xuserrmy ip is banned on some irc networks20:04
auronandacethreex5: yes20:04
samfromatFreeMansMind:You can do everything with mint. in fact you can do anything in every linux distro.20:04
FreeMansMindCan't disable Unity?20:04
xuserrso i want a program to change my ip20:04
ActionParsnipFreeMansMind: install a different shell or desktop and it won't be loaded20:04
crimsonmaneFreeMansMind: log out, click the gear icon next to your name, and select 2d mode20:04
MoonlightningImagine the /entire/ screen has an overlay like the wallpaper here: http://cl.ly/IqDo20:04
macmartineHow do I keep ubuntu from emailing the admin email with certain log messages? It keeps emailing me for some things that I want to ignore20:05
Dr_Willishm20:05
auronandacethreex5: make sure you select the right drive to put the bootloader on too20:05
FreeMansMindlet me try20:05
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graingertis there an application that shows all the GTK widgets?20:06
graingertas a test page20:06
Mothracrimsonmane how do I fix my promissions then?20:06
FreeMansMindbefore doing this is there a TAsk Mgr that I can see CPU and RAM usages20:06
Dr_WillisFreeMansMind: htop or top20:07
samfromatFreeMansMind: yes, System Monitor shows that.20:07
crimsonmaneMothra: reinstall. i am sorry, there's no other way20:08
MothraWhat is the package called?20:08
wilee-nileeFreeMansMind, what desktop do you want?20:08
ActionParsnipFreeMansMind: if you install Xubuntu, Kubuntu or Lubuntu it won't even be installed20:08
AdvocatedAnyone aware of any software to allow iphone/appstore development on ubuntu?20:08
ActionParsnipFreeMansMind: free -m    will show RAM20:09
ActionParsnipFreeMansMind: top -n 1    will show CPU20:09
FreeMansMindWell it uses between %35 - 45 of CPU20:10
ActionParsnipFreeMansMind: LXDE is super light, as is XFCE20:11
lindaciao20:12
MoonlightningO.o20:12
FreeMansMindActionParsnip:  what do u mean with: FreeMansMind: if you install Xubuntu, Kubuntu or Lubuntu it won't even be installed20:12
linda!list20:12
ubottulinda: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».20:12
Mothracrimsonmane what is the package called and will reinstalling chown fix  my issue?20:12
Num83rGuyI removed pulse audio and now use ALSA because pulse was giving me lots of problems.  I now don't have sound in Chrome. Does any one know how to fix this?20:12
crimsonmaneMothra: i mean reinstall your ubuntu20:12
MoonlightningMothra: `chown` is a coreutil20:12
ravenhow to mount partitions of a raw diskdump?20:13
graingertNum83rGuy: install pulse audio20:13
MoonlightningIf you don't have a `chown`, I don't know what to tell you. XD20:13
MoonlightningTry `/bin/chown` and double-check your $PATH?20:13
Mothracrimsonmane I can reinstall but how will that correct my promission of files in my home folder20:13
Num83rGuygraingert: Ha, ha.20:13
wilee-nileeFreeMansMind, Those releases can be installed by themselves by downloading their ISO's20:14
crimsonmaneMothra: i suppose you can delete your user account and create a new one... that would be faster20:14
graingertNum83rGuy: seriously pulse is basically hot to do audio20:14
MoonlightningDeleting an account to change permissions? O.o20:14
MoonlightningDid I miss something?20:14
Mothrano20:14
Mothramoonlightning20:14
MothraIm not deleting personal files20:14
crimsonmanei chown'd his entire home folder20:14
* Moonlightning blinks20:14
crimsonmanenot i... i meant he20:14
MoonlightningUm, `chown` it back? XD20:15
Moonlightning`chown -R $USER ~`20:15
Mothrasomeone told me to on this irc20:15
graingerts/hot/how/20:15
crimsonmanea month ago someone chown'd his entire system. BORKED it.20:15
Moonlightning6_920:15
cellofellowheh, no kidding20:15
cellofellow*nix, especially when root, gives you a lot of rope to hang yourself.20:16
Num83rGuygraingert: There are lots of ways to do audio on linux and there are several recent distros thay don't use pulse and work perfectly fine.20:16
Mothraso just because some personal files are in the promission of some non established account I cant correct them I have to reinstall the entire opperating system again20:16
MoonlightningDoesn't make sense to me. ^20:16
graingertNum83rGuy: it's the way to do audio on ubuntu20:16
Mothrathat seems like a huge hassle20:16
graingertanything else isn't supported20:16
FreeMansMindwell then I should ask a final question. if I install Lubuntu Xbuntu or Kubuntu will they work much faster and with much less RAM and CPU usage when I even run a video in youtube. Or run a couple of program at the same time or open like 10 websites atm.20:16
MoonlightningMothra: you can `chown` things owned by a nonexistent account20:16
MoonlightningJust like you would `chown` anything else.20:17
cellofellowMothra: add a new account, an Administrator account, log into that and sudo chown -R youruser ~youruser.20:17
cellofellowthen you can delete the old account20:17
cellofellows/old/new/20:17
FreeMansMindWill be a markable difference between unity and the other one?20:17
Num83rGuygraingert: Not with my hardware and software setup on my computer, thank you.20:17
graingertno probley20:18
Mothracellofellow by youruser do you mean of the old account or the account I just made to run that command on20:18
graingertyou're welcome20:18
cellofellowMothra: old account20:18
samfromatFreeMansMind: In linux world you can't blindly predict anything but one thing is sure that lxde or xfce will work smoother than unity.20:18
Mothrathe non existant account?20:18
trismgraingert: we have thewidgetfactory in the repo, but it is gtk2 only, https://github.com/valr/awf is a fork for both gtk2 and gtk320:19
MoonlightningMothra: let my clarify that.20:19
cellofellowMothra: is that account still in /etc/passwd?20:19
Mothraits marked as 1001-user#100120:19
cellofellowgrep 1001 /etc/passwd20:19
Mothrahow do I check?20:19
Dr_Williseach user has a uid and gid. the files owned by a nonexisting user will show a number in the owner field.20:19
Mothracellowfellow20:19
ravenhow to decompile  c binaries?20:19
MoonlightningIf your account is called mothra, make a new account (we'll call it new), log into the new account, do `sudo chown -R mothra ~mothra`, then delete 'new'20:19
cellofellowMothra: grep 1001 /etc/passwd20:19
FreeMansMindsamfromat just wondering why so many people choosing ubuntu instead of another version that works with lxde. I can not figure it out cause I am so lost about Linux and new20:19
Dr_Willislxde is limited and simplufied in some areas20:20
crimsonmaneFreeMansMind: it's due to lack of being informed.20:20
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Dr_Willisyou can install both feskyops if you want20:21
Mothracellowfellow that command did nothing, after I run that command can I just take control of the files on my new account?20:21
Mothra@Moonlightning20:21
cellofellowMothra: which did nothing, grep or chown?20:21
Mothragrep20:21
cellofellowMothra: ok, user 1001, whichever it was, is deleted. It needs to be added back.20:21
MoonlightningMothra: can you use `sudo` from your current account?20:21
MoonlightningMothra: if you can, all this other stuff is completely unnecessary.20:22
Mothramoonlightning I used it with sudo20:22
Mothraand my account is adminstrative20:22
Moonlightningsudo chown $USER ~20:22
Moonlightningwhoops20:22
Moonlightningsudo chown -R $USER ~20:22
Moonlightning^ that should fix it20:22
FreeMansMindcrimsonmane so deleting ubuntu and installing lubuntu or linux mint instead not like deleting Windows 7 and installing WIndows XP to make netbook work faster? Its not installing something less nicer right?20:22
graingerttrism: I need it for quantal :(20:22
MoonlightningI don't know what all this other stuff is about :V20:22
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samfromatFreeMansMind: if you have noticed, lots of ubuntu users were unhappy with unity interface(including me). but the thing is unity can work out of the box with sufficient ram and video card. and its just the personel interest. you have to try everything and then stick with something that works nice for you.20:22
cellofellowMothra: you may need to sudo adduser --uid 1001 youruser yourgroup20:23
cellofellowif it's not in /etc/passwd20:23
Dr_Willisi use unity on this box. the wife uses lxde20:23
crimsonmaneFreeMansMind: if you do mint, you need LXDE20:23
trismgraingert: it doesn't build on quantal?20:23
xangua(15:20:29) Dr_Willis: lxde is limited and simplufied in some areas - also a 'netbook' is very limited in resources FreeMansMind20:23
graingerttrism: PPA :*20:23
crimsonmaneFreeMansMind: whatever you do, go with LXDE spin of that distro20:23
graingert:(*20:23
trismgraingert: oh I just built it, it is pretty straightforward and you don't need to install it20:24
Moonlightningcellofellow: is that /realy/ necessary?20:24
Dr_Willisxangua: unity runs well on my 2netbooks20:24
cellofellowMoonlightning: probably not20:24
FreeMansMindok but wich one :)20:24
Moonlightningcellofellow: then why are you saying to do it? :V20:24
FreeMansMindLubuntu or Mint or Kubuntu wich is the best20:24
crimsonmaneFreeMansMind: try. them. ALL.20:24
Moonlightning…you know what, I'm just going to test this.20:24
xanguaDr_Willis: unity runs well on my 4 years old notebook :) no idea why people say it's slow20:24
cellofellowMoonlightning: I was confused, figured it out.20:24
FreeMansMindcrimsonmane do they all work in USB Drive to test?20:24
MoonlightningOkay, here we go.20:24
cellofellowMothra: what's your current $UID? (echo $UID)20:25
crimsonmaneFreeMansMind: yes.20:25
Mothraso I should run the command sudo chown -R $USER ~ with my current user account or with a new one or with the old one that doesnt seem to exist20:25
Dr_WillisFreeMansMind:  yiu can install the ubuntu.lubuntu and kubuntu desktops on a single install and easially switch20:25
dgsafewrightI am running 12.04  on a macbook pro 8.120:25
MoonlightningMothra: just run that command, no need to do anything else.20:25
Moonlightningsudo chown -R $USER ~20:25
Mothra@Moonlightning 100020:25
MoonlightningYou should be able to direct copypasta it.20:25
dgsafewrightruns better than osx and its supported until 2017...20:25
FreeMansMindDr_Willis:  how?20:25
cellofellowMothra: I'm with Moonlightning. I'll leave him to help, as I seem to be gumming things up.20:25
graingerttrism: I'm too lasy to compile20:26
Dr_Willissame as you install anything else.. the pavkage manager20:26
Dr_WillisFreeMansMind: lubuntu-desktop for lubuntu20:26
dgsafewrightDr._Willis what are you asking how about?20:26
FreeMansMindIt will ask me to install it alingside to Windows and Ubuntu?20:26
crimsonmaneFreeMansMind: even better, you can sudo-apt-get lxde-desktop20:26
MoonlightningOkay.20:26
crimsonmaneor whatever the package is called20:26
MoonlightningI just tested this.20:26
FreeMansMindand shrink the partition?20:26
MoonlightningFor the record…20:26
Mothra@moonlightning says 'sudo chown -R $USER' after running chown: missing operand after `stevesenior'20:27
MothraTry `chown --help' for more information.20:27
FreeMansMindcrimsonmane: shall i type it now in terminal?20:27
MoonlightningMothra: `sudo chown -R $USER ~`20:27
Moonlightningmissing the tilde at the end20:27
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dgsafewrightFreeMansMind you can either wipe your existing OS and use ubuntu or install ubuntu alongside your existing os20:27
Mothrasorry about the mistake moonlightning20:27
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MoonlightningFOR THE RECORD: If you make an account, `chown` a regular file to that account, then delete the account, you can STILL `chown` the file back. There is NO NEED to recreate the old account, delete ANYTHING, and CERTAINLY not to reinstall all of Ubuntu.20:28
Mothra@moonlightning getting output, chown: cannot access `/home/stevesenior/.gvfs': Permission denied20:28
FreeMansMindWhat I really hate with ubuntu is this heavy feeling when it opens folders and etc but the most thing I hate is the LAuncher BAr20:28
MoonlightningMothra: with `sudo`?20:28
Mothrayes20:28
* Moonlightning blinks20:28
Dr_Willis!dock | FreeMansMind20:28
ubottuFreeMansMind: Ubuntu includes several dock-like navigation bars. Some options are: avant-window-navigator, cairo-dock, docky (formerly part of gnome-do), stalonetray, simdock, kdocker, kooldock.20:28
Psi-JackFreeMansMind: So, what you're saying is, you don't like Unity.20:28
crimsonmaneFreeMansMind: we're currently in Ubuntu's IRC channel, and i do not wish to disrespect their distro by suggesting Linux Mint LXDE to you, but i might have done exactly that.20:29
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Dr_Willislubuntu is easy to install on ubuntu20:29
crimsonmaneFreeMansMind: didyou even try logging out and switching to Unity 2D20:29
crimsonmane?20:29
dgsafewrightyou have the choice to use different desktop environments20:29
FreeMansMindcrimsonmane:  I will try it all with USB drive.20:29
FreeMansMindcrimsonmane:  no will try now but what is this sudo-apt-get lxde-desktop20:30
FreeMansMindI wanted to ask before i do20:30
crimsonmaneFreeMansMind: forget that command. don't do it.20:30
dgsafewrightsudo means root20:30
FreeMansMindok20:30
crimsonmanejust try 2D mode first20:30
crimsonmaneand come back to us and talk20:30
MoonlightningMothra: `ls -ld ~/.gvfs`20:30
dgsafewrightapt-get is ubuntu's command to install20:30
Psi-Jackheh20:30
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Psi-Jack"2D" mode, yeah.. Still sucks.20:30
dgsafewrightand lxde-desktop is the lxde desktop environment20:30
FreeMansMindOk brb then i will try those dock that Dr_Willis  mentioned20:31
MothraMoonlightning ls: cannot access /home/stevesenior/.gvfs: Permission denied20:31
SecretFireis there a way to tell through terminal what kind of connection interface my hdd is?20:31
graingertcrimsonmane FreeMansMind: there will be no Unity 2D in the next version20:31
MothraMoonlightning I was using sudo20:31
Moonlightning`sudo ls -ld ~/.gvfs` gives you permission-denied?20:31
Psi-Jackgraingert: Hmmm, before wayland stabilizes? Worst idea in history.20:32
Mothramoonlightning yes20:32
graingertPsi-Jack: not my idea20:32
Psi-Jackgraingert: Yeah... Still the worst idea in history. And I support a lot of what Canonical does, with the exceptions of Unity.20:33
Dr_Williswayland is not in the next release default either20:34
brennanhow do you run a dos/windows executable file???20:34
MoonlightningMothra: if you're getting a permission-denied as root, I honestly don't know what to tell you…20:34
MoonlightningIs this ~/.gvfs important to you at all?20:34
Psi-Jackbrennan: dosemu, for dos, wine for Windows.20:34
Mothra@moonlightning I dont know what .gvfs is to be honest20:34
brennanhow do i do wine?20:34
Psi-Jackbrennan: aptitude install wine20:34
MoonlightningIgnore the error for now, maybe ask about it later?20:35
MoonlightningDid you get any other errors?20:35
Psi-Jackbrennan: For further help on wine beyond that, #winehq is your channel.20:35
Dr_Willisuse agt-get instead of aptitude  these days20:35
AdvocatedAnyone aware of any software to allow iphone/appstore development on ubuntu?20:35
Psi-JackDr_Willis: Not according to Debian devs.20:35
brennanPsi-Jack, do i have to do anything besides what your telling me?20:35
Dr_Willisthis is not debian20:35
Psi-JackDr_Willis: you be backwards. ;)20:35
MoonlightningAdvocated: as far as I know, you have to use Xcode.20:35
Dr_Willis!aptitude20:36
ubottuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.20:36
OerHeksPsi-Jack, only when you run 64 bit, aptitude wrecks your system20:36
MoonlightningIf there's an Xcode port for Ubuntu, great. If not, I guess you're out of luck.20:36
FreeMansMindcrimsonmane:  I am back. 2D look very simple to me... CPU usage wasnt so different. It was about %2020:36
MoonlightningThere's probably something somewhere to get them to expand to Linux, though. Try googling it?20:36
MothraMoonlightning are you talking to me when you are refering to getting other error? That is the only output I have gotten from the commands I have run20:36
AdvocatedMoonlightning, how about virtualbox type thing with osx on? or same problems?20:36
MoonlightningMothra: you should be fine, then, I guess, except for that one directory|file.20:37
FreeMansMindI may like ubuntu more with different dock maybe. Dr_Willis  would you please tell me again?20:37
brennanPsi-Jack, do i have to do anything besides what your telling me?20:37
AndrePHello all, i maight need a little bit n00b help, but im fucking my brains in this20:37
Dr_Willis!dock20:37
MoonlightningAdvocated: sure, VirtualBox should work, since it'd be running under OS X.20:37
ubottuUbuntu includes several dock-like navigation bars. Some options are: avant-window-navigator, cairo-dock, docky (formerly part of gnome-do), stalonetray, simdock, kdocker, kooldock.20:37
Psi-Jackbrennan: As I said, for Wine support, your channel is #winehq20:37
endafyhey I need some help, sometimes when watching videos, it will sort of freeze the audio will skip and then catch up to itself20:38
endafyhow do I fix this20:38
endafydoes it with mp3s too20:38
Psi-Jackendafy: Guessing, Flash videos on websites?20:38
endafyflash too but no system level20:38
Mothra@moonlightning yeah i see my promissions are fixed :) thank you but what is .gvfs it worries me that there is a file in my directory that not even root can touch20:38
FreeMansMindDr_Willis:  I search them in Software center or google?20:38
endafylike I try to play an episode of lost20:39
Psi-Jackendafy: Have you updated to the latest updates 100% to date?20:39
endafyits an avi20:39
AndrePThis is my question, i need a complete install of Ubuntu, i installed it through USB but made some mistakes in the Username, Computer Name and screwed already, and i want to reinstall again Ubuntu from the start... But when i acess the Boot Menu of BIOS, i choose USB, and instead of loading the Ubuntu Started (The one who lets you choose what to do), he goes straight to the OS and enters it...20:39
AndrePHow can i do, to start the install of Ubuntu 12 again, from the start? Thanks20:39
MoonlightningMothra: I honestly don't know. Try googling it?20:39
endafyyes20:39
MoonlightningOr maybe Ask Ubuntu?…20:39
Mothra@moonlightning I will :) thanks again for the help20:39
* Moonlightning yells to the channel in general. “Hay! Anyone know what ~/.gvfs is?!”20:39
Psi-JackMoonlightning: Gnome Virtual FileSystem20:39
* Moonlightning introduces Mothra to Psi-Jack and steps out.20:39
zykotick9Moonlightning: Gnome Virtual File System (fuse-related)20:40
endafyit skips in games like secret maryo chronicles20:40
MoonlightningMothra: there's your answer, I guess… XD20:40
endafyskips whenever media is played20:40
endafyits really starting to bug the crap out of me20:40
Mothra Thanks Moonlightning :) you are awesome20:41
MoonlightningYou're welcome. ^^20:41
MoonlightningAs far as I know, reinstalling the OS is only for /very extreme/ cases.20:41
AndrePanyone may help me? its really simple, but i cant find answer for it anywhere20:41
crimsonmaneendafy: what are your computer specs?20:41
MoonlightningAs you've seen today, not even a borked-up `chown` on your home dir is cause for a reinstall. ;)20:42
threex5Is it OK to format /home as fat32? I would like to be able to get to this partition if I plug my usb into a windows machine20:42
OerHeksAndreP, insert cd, boot from it, and install starts again.20:42
Psi-JackAndreP: Do you know what a partition is?20:42
endafyintel core i7, asus m8x, 24gig ram, 2tb 10krpm sata 3 6gb hdd20:42
endafynvidia gtx 680 ti20:42
AndrePYes20:42
Psi-JackAndreP: Do you know what a disk partition is?20:42
ActionParsnipMoonlightning: gvfs is the folder where things like remote server get mounted to20:42
AndrePyou're not understanding, i insert the USB again, and choose on BOOT menu the USB... But instead the menu to install the OS, it starts the OS! and goes to desktop! :/20:43
Psi-JackAndreP: I'm understanding perfectly fine.20:43
MoonlightningMothra: ~/.gvfs is the folder where things like remote server get mounted to [from ActionParsnip]20:43
AndrePokay, awesome :) so what can i do?20:43
Psi-JackAndreP: Is this Ubuntu Server, or Ubuntu Desktop?20:43
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Guest98234hello, how do I install a deb.run file20:43
AndrePDesktop! ;)20:43
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Psi-JackAndreP: So your system isn't booting off the USB, then.20:43
Psi-JackAndreP: Go into BIOS, change boot order to include USB over HDD and/or CD, boot USB.20:44
theDboyI have seen *.deb files20:44
theDboybut this is the first time I have come across a deb.run file20:44
AndrePYes, it booted when i unnistalled windows 7 for a complete clean install of Ubuntu 12... after 10 minutes i screwed up and i want to reeinstall the Ubuntu... i did exactly the same thing, but instead of entering the Menu of installing, like the first time, it goes straight to the OS20:44
crimsonmaneMoonlightning: reinstall would have been faster, just sayin.20:44
AndrePok, will try it again20:45
theDboyI tried Gdebi and commanline sh, but no dice20:45
theDboyany ideas?20:45
Moonlightningcrimsonmane: I don't see how reinstalling is faster than `sudo chown -R $USER ~` :P20:45
crimsonmaneMoonlightning: it was when he was here for an hour20:45
Moonlightningcrimsonmane: installing Ubuntu took more than an hour for me20:46
crimsonmanetakes me ten minutes20:46
AndrePUSB is first, but he seems to ignore it, and enters in the OS and goes to the Desktop20:46
MoonlightningAnd I think most of that hour was people giving him misinformation. >.>20:46
Psi-JackAndreP: Then the USB is damaged causing it to fail to boot.20:46
Mothramoonlight thanks for clearing that up so I need'nt worry about it20:46
MoonlightningYou're welcome *chuckles*20:46
AndrePthat would be possible, if i havnt used it 10 minutes ago to install the Ubuntu XD20:47
AndrePis there any other thing that may be causing this?20:47
Psi-JackAndreP: I have already just told you what's wrong.20:48
Mothra thanks everyone for the help it is really apperciated :) bye all20:48
arooni-mobilehi folks;  ive been trying for hours to duplicate a simple HTTP POST request over HTTPS for website login that i can make with command line curl (it works).  when i try with http-client (ruby lib) it doesnt log me in.  obviously theres something different about the requests... how can i see what the difference is?20:48
AndrePokay :) thank you, will try to install again BOOT in the pen, or try with another Pen ;)20:48
Psi-JackAndreP: You should /completely/ erase the USB disk, do a full format on it, wipe it, and re-install the Ubuntu Desktop images to it as you did before.20:48
AndrePthank you :)20:48
AndrePokay, will do it :) thank you ;)20:49
arooni-mobilehahaha nevermind; solved it!  i was POSTing to the wrong URL!!! stupid arooni-mobile !!!20:50
Psi-JackAndreP: Now, the better question is. If you installed Ubuntu 10 minutes ago, why are you trying to do so again, immediately after?20:50
crimsonmanePsi-Jack: he borked the username stuff20:50
Psi-JackThat doesn't require a reinstall.20:51
crimsonmanenope20:51
AndrePBecause i want to change the Username, PC Name and the Password20:51
crimsonmaneuseradd or adduser20:51
crimsonmane"man useradd"20:51
brennanPsi-Jack, what am i supposed to do with wine?20:51
theDboycould I just change the name form deb.run to just .deb?20:51
Psi-JackAndreP: Fix the USB disk, and use it to boot into recovery mode, instead of reinstalling.20:51
Psi-Jackbrennan: As I said, for Wine support, your channel is #winehq20:51
crimsonmanePsi-Jack: he doesn't even need to do that20:51
AndrePyeah, im already fixing the USB, will do all from the beggining20:51
crimsonmaneAndreP: reboot, hold the shift key until you get the gub, and select recovery20:52
Psi-JackAndreP: Okay. Please do not ask for help when you don't want help. Good day.20:52
theDboyflood bot it out20:52
theDboyfeel me20:52
AndrePPsi-Jack, im completly geting missunderstood! Im just doing what you said, im fixing the USB for installing again (just like you said), man thank you (and im not beeing ironic!)20:52
gunarmis ironic the same thing as sarcastic?20:53
Psi-JackAndreP: No, I understand you perfectly. YOU are just refusing to learn and do things correctly.20:53
brennan what am i supposed to do with wine?20:53
brennan what am i supposed to do with wine?20:53
Psi-Jackbrennan: As I said, for Wine support, your channel is #winehq20:53
AndrePsorry if that was what i looked, but that could not be more far from the truth20:53
AndrePi needed help, that why i came here20:53
AndrePyou gave me a solution wich is fixing the USB, and thats what im trying to do right now ;) after i test it again, i'll give my feedback ;)20:54
Psi-JackAndreP: No, don't. I don't care to help someone ignoring the help.20:54
gunarmI have my mdadm raid6 array at /dev/md0 and I can't get it mounted where I can write to it, i have tried manual mount, as well as putting it in fstab, either way, it mounts, but I cannot write to it, even with sudo it says permission denied.  any suggestions?20:55
Psi-Jackgunarm: What filesystem is /dev/md0?20:55
gunarmext420:55
AndrePPsi-Jack: Im not ignoring someone's help... im just trying to follow the instructions you gave me... Fixing the USB wasn't what you said? Man, we're completly missunderstanding each other :/20:56
brennanPsi-Jack, no one is tlaking in winehq20:56
Psi-JackAndreP: You asked the wrong questions, and when corrected after being verbally beaten for them, you ignored the corrected instructions, and don't care to. Bye. We're done here.20:56
Psi-Jackbrennan: Not #ubuntu's problem.20:57
Psi-Jackbrennan: Learn patience.20:57
Psi-Jackgunarm: Hmmm.. That makes no sense.20:57
brennanPsi-Jack, i know that its not ubuntus problem thats why i told you20:58
Psi-Jackbrennan: This channel is #ubuntu.20:58
ActionParsnipbrennan: what is yo0ur issue20:59
Psi-JackActionParsnip: wine20:59
Psi-JackHe's already been told to take it to #winegq20:59
Psi-Jackhq*20:59
Dr_Willislearning how to use wine?21:00
MoonlightningOkay, I have a couple of actual Ubuntu issues. One is that my display is…messed up. I'm not sure how to describe it, other than the /entire/ thing looks like the wallpaper in http://cl.ly/IqDo .21:00
Dr_Willisor a specific issue?21:00
ActionParsnipbrennan: what in specific do you wnat to know?21:00
gunarmPsi-Jack, does this contribute anything useful? http://pastebin.com/7NVfeVvK21:01
Psi-Jackgunarm: Hmmm, no. All looks normal. What about dmesg | grep md021:02
bro0hello21:02
bro0is anyone else having problems installing grub to intel software raid21:02
Psi-Jackbro0: Software RAID? Or Fake Raid? Sounds more like fake raid.21:03
Psi-JackAnd If so, you shouldn't install grub to such things.21:03
brennanActionParsnip, i need to know how to run a Dos/windows executable file?21:03
bro0Psi-Jack: i have a raid 0 i want to install mint on. somehow the grub installation fails all the time21:04
Dr_Williswine foo.exe21:04
ActionParsnipbrennan: the file neds t be marked as executable. I suggest uou check the appdb for compatibility before you start21:04
gunarmPsi-Jack, http://pastebin.com/mDsPZFVx21:04
bro0but currently no one knows a solution in mint chat21:04
* crimsonmane admits he doesn't even know what RAID is... is that where you have a PCI card that your HDD's plug into?21:04
Psi-Jackgunarm: And the output of mount | grep md0?21:05
tiberio_draid is two hard disks mirroring data or something21:05
maukcrimsonmane: check wikipedia...21:05
brennanwhats an appdb? and i did make the file executable in properties21:05
bro000:1f.2 RAID bus controller: Intel Corporation 82801 SATA Controller [RAID mode] (rev 05)21:05
ActionParsnipcrimsonmane: i suggest you research, its very cool :)21:05
Psi-Jacktiberio_d: Incorrect.21:05
brennanActionParsnip, ^21:05
Psi-Jackbro0: That's FAKE raid.21:05
geirhacrimsonmane: raid is when you combine two or more disks to act as one disk21:05
Psi-Jackbro0: And again, you should not be installing grub to such things.21:05
tiberio_dactually i'm right21:05
ActionParsnipbrennan: search and you will find. I promise21:05
tiberio_di said it's something and it is21:05
Psi-Jacktiberio_d: No, actually, you are not right.21:05
bro0Psi-Jack: well i dont have any other besides some usb stick xD21:05
tiberio_dso it isn't anything? ok21:05
* crimsonmane doesn't see the point to RAID21:06
ActionParsnipbrennan: if the file is stored on an NTFS partition you cannot change the access on the fly, nor can you just run apps installed in Windows in a dual boot21:06
ActionParsnipcrimsonmane: you get redundancy. If one drive fails the data is still accessible21:06
ActionParsnipcrimsonmane: there is a LOT of point to raid#21:06
Psi-Jackbro0: Buy a new HDD, or carve out a boot partition and RAID the rest, and better yet, do not use FAKE raid at all. Use mdadm at best.21:06
gunarmPsi-Jack, http://pastebin.com/yp1tMjmc21:06
brennanok i will stop trying ActionParsnip21:06
ActionParsnipcrimsonmane: if you have oly one drive and it dies, the server is toast21:06
Toph2ActionParsnip,,, to have total redundancy, how many drives do you need?21:07
bro0what is mdadm? i was using win7 on this machine so far21:07
ActionParsnipToph2: define 'total redundancy'21:07
geirhacrimsonmane: One type of raid, is when you have two harddrives mirroring each other. They'll act as one disk, both disks will contain the same data. So, when one disk fails, you can simply replace it without losing any data.21:07
bro0does ubuntu come with it?21:07
Psi-Jackbro0: mdadm is Linux's software RAIDE.21:07
Psi-Jack-E21:07
* crimsonmane now sees RAID as a server thing, and wonders if there's a point to using it at home.21:07
Dr_Willis!appdb | brennan21:07
ubottubrennan: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help21:07
Toph2ActionParsnip,,, well, assuming you lose 1 drive, and still retain all your data21:07
gunarmcrimsonmane, depends how hardcore you are with your stuff at home21:07
Shinobican someone tell me how to replace unity with gnome 3. All the articles on the web I've read don't work.21:08
ActionParsnipcrimsonmane: you cn use raid0 (which isn't actually raid, it just uses the same technology) to use 2 drives to make one logical volume for speed21:08
* crimsonmane has seen a server tower with HDD bays that can be removed without shutting down the computer. liked it lots. 21:08
zykotick9!notunity | Shinobi21:08
ActionParsnipToph2: at least 2 in raid121:08
ubottuShinobi: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic21:08
Psi-Jackcrimsonmane: I run 4 6 servers at home, plus 2 backup NAS units.21:08
Dr_WillisShinobi: in 12.04 ?21:08
Toph2ActionParsnip,,, ok21:08
crimsonmanePsi-Jack: you have quite a library of media then, dont ya21:08
Psi-Jackcrimsonmane: No, 4 servers run as my hypervisors for servers. the 2 remaining are SAN servers.21:09
Psi-JackWhich provide the disks for the hypervisors.21:09
ActionParsnipToph2: as the drives are identical, the single drive will then be the only active drive, once you replac it the data will be copied over (rebuilt) then become active21:09
bro0Psi-Jack: what do you mean by carving out some boot partition21:09
Psi-Jackbro0: I meant exactly what I said.21:09
bro0how would you exactly partition the drives in my case?21:09
Shinobiyeah 12.0421:09
Shinobiwhat's with the ! before packages?21:09
bro0(2x2 tbyte) raid 021:09
Toph2ActionParsnip,,, ok, but Raid1 will speed up data retrieval, will it?21:09
Psi-Jackbro0: In simpleton, make a 200 MB partition, at the beginning of the drive, and the rest, do with as you wish, RAID it, LVM on top of RAID, etc.21:10
ShinobiUbuntu shell only seems to install the fallback... there  seems to be no difference.21:10
ActionParsnipToph2: you can mix raid levels too, like raid 1+0 requires at least 4 disks to make 1 volume. its a raid1 but duplicated for speed21:10
ActionParsnipToph2: raid1 is the same access time as a single drive21:10
bro0Psi-Jack: so grub can install to a single drive?21:10
Toph2ActionParsnip,,, i see21:10
Psi-Jackbro0: Uhh.. Of course.21:10
bro0alright, i didnt know that!21:10
ShinobiDr_willis: for got o add your name see above.21:10
ActionParsnipToph2: raid0 is for speed but if a drive fails your data is gone21:10
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Psi-Jackbro0: Please use common sense in the future.21:10
gunarmPsi-Jack, so nothing seems problematic?  should I take it to ubunto forums then?21:11
bro0Psi-Jack: i thought you could install grub to my raid21:11
Psi-Jackgunarm: I never saw the mount output.21:11
bro0brb, rebooting to reconfigure -.-21:11
Toph2ActionParsnip,,, so Raid1 is the same as a simple backup to another drive?21:11
Psi-Jackgunarm: One sec.21:11
gunarmhttp://pastebin.com/yp1tMjmc21:11
Psi-Jackbro0: Not Fake RAID, no.21:11
MoonlightningIs there a way to automatically lock a tty after some specified idle time?21:12
Psi-Jackgunarm: Hmmm..21:12
W4spbro0: Install GRUB on all drives that a part of your RAID array.21:12
Psi-Jackgunarm: Yeah, that's very wierd.. There's no viable explaination as to why that could happen, on an ext4 filesystem.21:12
ActionParsnipToph2: kinda but if one drive dies then the system is stilll accessible, giving you time to replace the drive21:12
Toph2ActionParsnip,,, ok, yes21:13
ActionParsnipToph2: theres a youtube vid wit 24 x Samsung SSD drives as a single volume in RAID, its super fast21:14
Toph2ActionParsnip,,, would you have the url?21:14
ActionParsnipToph2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs21:15
Toph2thanks a lot21:15
ActionParsnipToph2: skip to 1:30 to skip to yadda yada21:15
gunarmPsi-Jack, the drives are basically all brand new, i made the raid array, unplugged a drive and it built my hot swap successfully (as a test), i did mkfs.ext4 on the file system, i just havent been able to actually write any data on it, but ok ill go to the forums, the worst part is that the whole point of this is to protect my data, and in the process i've already spent 1100$s and even going to the point of unplugging the data drives to w21:16
gunarmork on the raid drives, ive still managed to wipe 1/3rd of my precious data, and still dont even have a working raid array ;(21:16
gunarmheh thanks anyway htough21:16
W4spToph2: do not mix up redundancy with backup. Your RAID array is no substitute of a backup.21:18
W4sps/of/for21:18
KihokkiHelp! Xorg-server is not starting automatically and each start up I have to run startx to open it.21:18
Toph2W4sp,,, yes, i realize the function is different21:18
W4spKihokki: What OS and version do you have?21:18
W4spToph2: OK, fine then. Do not take advice seriously that tells you that you don't need backup if you have RAID of any level. :-)21:19
KihokkiW4sp, Ubuntu 12.0421:19
ActionParsnipToph2: see how much faster the OS is using RAID, the HDD storage is a serious bottleneck in systems21:21
Toph2W4sp,,, you are suggesting that even with a Raid setup, one should backup?21:21
v1c3hello! how can i see the crc-32 checksum of a file?21:21
ActionParsnipToph2: yes, always backup to an external storage or system or tape etc21:21
Toph2ok21:21
gunarmToph2, have you ever read ANYTHING about raid, "Raid is not backup" is said so many times its basically an annoying cliche, how do you not know that?21:21
zykotick9v1c3: crc or md5?21:22
Dr_Williscan i raid my backups?21:22
gunarmif your computer gets fried, your raid array won't help you21:22
Toph2gunarm,,, i have a general feeling of what Raid is, but am learning21:22
gunarmif your house burns down21:22
W4spToph2: I suggest it firmly. ;-) Yes.21:22
v1c3crc21:23
v1c3zykotick9, crc21:23
gunarmthe raid array keeps you up and running, but to really protect your stuff, a backup is more important, something not usually connected to your computer, and preferably kept at another physical location21:23
zykotick9v1c3: "crc32 filename"21:23
kate__i'm getting kernel panics, and i think this might be part of the issue; how do I investigate? ioatadma 0000:00:08.0: can't derive routing for PCI INT A21:23
SoulstitchmmoHello. I updated my Ubuntu 12.04 a couple days ago, and now when I start up it doesn't go to the GUI it loads up to a terminal where I log in, and then that's it. No GUI. I've used startx and sudo service lightdm start and neither have worked. Currently I'm using the "try ubuntu" from my USB Stick.21:24
v1c3zykotick9, bash: crc32: command not found21:24
W4spgunarm: It was me who said that RAID and backup are two things. Toph2 asked for information.21:25
Toph2gunarm,,, i really haven't considered backup storage outside my home,, what do you do, backup online?21:25
zykotick9v1c3: might be in libarchive-zip-perl (not sure though)21:25
KihokkiW4sp, Ubuntu 12.0421:26
gunarmW4sp, ah, i'm just so tired of people telling me raid is not a backup, i guess I couldn't believe anyone didn't already know that ;p21:26
daniel-foldHi everyone, does anyone has some experience with Doctrine 2?21:26
gunarmToph2, currently i am ashamed to say I don't have a backup, but that will change when I get the money, too much data for online backup, so ill have to buy another 10tb of drives and do a weekly rsync and then take the backups to work for safe keeping21:27
W4spgunarm: :-) AFAIK so many things are being repeated day after day on different subjects.21:27
ActionParsnipSoulstitchmmo: what video chip do you use?21:27
OerHeksHi, where to ask support for paid apps in softwarecentre ?21:27
SoulstitchmmoActionParsnip: ATI Radeon 5850, it was working perfectly for gaming and everything up until recently.21:28
gunarmW4sp, yeah, nobodys fault.  I didnt meant to be a jerk about it21:28
W4spKihokki: The easiest thing to try at this stage is gpkg-reconfigure lightdm. A window comes up, pls. select lightdm.21:28
ActionParsnipSoulstitchmmo: I suggest you read /var/log/Xorg.0.log21:28
Psi-Jackgunarm: Good off-site backup that I use and like, is CrashPlan.21:29
ActionParsnipSoulstitchmmo: you may want to uninstall the fglrx driver then reboot21:29
Toph2gunarm,,, ok,, you compute at a different level than myself21:29
SoulstitchmmoActionParsnip: can I get to that while "trying" ubuntu?21:29
ActionParsnipSoulstitchmmo: I'd reboot to the installed OS and hold SHIFT, select recovery mode then select root21:29
MoonlightningFrom https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates/ : Note that while the apt job is sleeping it will cause the execution of the rest of your cron.daily jobs to be delayed.21:29
v1c3zykotick9, haven´t found the package.. i´ll write a short programm to get the crc ^^21:29
Soulstitchmmoactio21:30
W4spKihokki: I have a speller... It is 'dpkg-reconfigure lightdm'.21:30
SoulstitchmmoActionParsnip: and when I get to root, I navigate to that log, or do I follow the uninstallation instructions for FGLRX I already have?21:30
gunarmPsi-Jack, i think i looked into crash plan, but i just dont see how online backup of 8 tb of data would even work21:30
MoonlightningWhy is this? Is there some way to make it not delay the others, or to force it to be the last job?21:31
v1c3other question: which kind of checksum is a 8-digit-hex-string?  please help!21:31
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v1c3mjheagle8: i found a name_of_archive.sfv file in my download directory and it contains a few lines "name_of_archive.r06 06d282c3 "for example21:31
Psi-Jackgunarm: Works great. :)21:31
ActionParsnipSoulstitchmmo: you can run:  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log21:31
gunarmPsi-Jack, but like, it would take months just to upload/download copies of it (at my internet speed) or else its like 130 bucks for them to mail you each drive to bypass the uploading/downloading, for that price I could by new drives21:32
SoulstitchmmoActionParsnip: ok thank you going to try that.21:32
zykotick9v1c3: you might also try libstring-crc32-perl21:33
ActionParsnipSoulstitchmmo: you may need to uninstall the proprietary driver, reboot using the open driver then reinstall it21:33
Psi-Jackgunarm: What's your internet speed for uploads?21:33
ActionParsnipSoulShadow: did you by any chance upgrade from 11.10 or 10.04?21:33
gunarmPsi-Jack, slow, i think i'm paying for 30mbps down maybe 15-20 up21:34
douglis there an iso for a usbstick to install 12.04 with?21:34
Artemis3dougl, the same cd iso21:34
zykotick9dougl: the iso is a hybrid - cd or usb21:34
ActionParsnipdougl: its the same one as you burn to CD21:34
ActionParsnipdougl: MD5 test it then use something like unetbootin21:35
gunarmPsi-Jack, and the way the ISPs i have found work, you get in trouble if you use it all all month, when you pass downloading about 3-400 tb a month they start calling you and accusing you of "abusing service" and threatening to terminate your account21:35
gunarms/tb/gb/21:35
W4spgunarm: OT:- Oooops.  10 TB at home.  :-O21:35
douglthanks21:35
gunarmW4sp, xbmc bro ;)21:36
gunarmbut not just that, also high quality family videos recorded from vhs21:36
gunarmand general data from about 6 different computers are consolidated21:36
Psi-Jackgunarm: I just did the math, based on 15mb/s upload rate. 8TB would 20 hours.21:37
ikoniaPsi-Jack: the disk slowdown would stop it21:37
ikoniaI moved 3.5 TB over a 1GB lan, getting a good thorughput and it took 36 hours21:38
ikoniathe disk was the issue (and the USB bus)21:38
Psi-Jackikonia: He's doing RAID. ;)21:38
ikoniaooooh21:38
Psi-JackYeah.21:38
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Psi-JackHe'd EASILY be able to maintain the 15mbit/s throughput.21:38
Psi-JackBut, now I'm wondering why, at home, he has 8TB of data to begin with.21:39
zally66622:32 < zally666> [   32.036007] tda827x_probe_version: could not read from  tuner at addr: 0xc021:39
louiemat_is this the Pinguy distro chat  to ask questions on?21:40
gunarmhmm that coudn't be right21:40
zally66628.311727] saa7133[0]/alsa: saa7133[0] at 0xdf5ff000 irq 16  registered as card -221:40
zally66623:38 < zally666> [   28.360092] DVB: registering new adapter (saa7133[0])21:40
gunarm1s21:40
W4spHave you considered SAN? Obviously, it does not cover your need to have a copy of yor backup out of your house.21:40
zykotick9louiemat_: nope.  pinguy isn't supported here21:40
zally666problem with tuner21:40
gunarmPsi-Jack, maybe i'm just a porn fiend ;)21:40
zally666its analog but registered as dvb ?.?21:41
Artemis3zally666, what device is this?21:41
Psi-Jackgunarm: Uhh... I'm leaning on other things, which are a lot less pleasant.21:41
louiemat_can u direct me to that chat?21:41
zally666saa7133 medion tv tuner21:41
gunarmbut no i said its mostly tv shows and movies, as well as home videos, and consolidated data from 6 pcs21:41
Psi-Jacklouiemat_: /msg alis help21:41
k1llouiemat_: its in the channel: #pinguyos  like its mentioned on their homepage21:41
W4spPsi-Jack: He explained what nature the data is and why he has so much.21:41
Psi-JackW4sp: Which still doesn't make sense.21:41
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gunarmPsi-Jack, it doesnt?21:42
Artemis3zally666, does it work?21:42
Psi-JackNot for 8 TB of data combined.21:42
zally666Artemis3: what could i do to reinstall vDl and drivers ?21:42
gunarmand i'm trying to imagine what you think would be less pleasant?21:42
zally666no not working atm21:42
gunarmor what that might mean21:42
gunarmheh21:42
zally666doesnt wanne scan for signal either21:43
zally666before only signal scanning worked21:43
Psi-JackTv shows, and movies. Gotcha. Piracy. Nuff said.21:43
Artemis3zally666, so you are using, say, tvtime and it doesnt work?21:43
zally666no it doesnt work at all21:43
zally666with any21:43
Artemis3zally666, did it work before?21:43
Artemis3zally666, with ubuntu i mean21:44
zally666since i tried tv server v4l vdr and tvheadend21:44
zally666uname -r ?21:44
zally666one without startbar21:44
zally6663.2.0-24-generic21:44
zally666dont know what update its on21:44
zally666it worked before21:44
Artemis3zally666, before update it worked? oh i see21:45
shade34321I just upgraded a computer from 11.10 to 12.04 and it appears the mouse is stuck on the left edge of the screen. Any suggestions on how to fix this? Thanks!21:45
zally666before tv servers experiment21:45
gunarmPsi-Jack, DVR21:45
zally666Artemis3: can i run ubuntu on my closed router ? that my isp want me to configure from there site ?.?21:45
diminotenHm, whenever I try to use nautilus's "Connect to server" thingy, I get "Can't load the supported server method list"21:46
svennphi, im using the nvidia xserver settings in ubuntu and set it to twinview, is there any way to make fullscreen games go on only 1 screen with normal hd resolution?21:46
diminotenI googled for a solution and couldn't find one21:46
zally666i need a network tv server tuner router app or device :)21:46
zally666or backbone21:46
Artemis3zally666 you want to capture and stream video21:47
Artemis3zally666, but first fix the tvtuner21:47
diminotenit also says "Please check your gvfs installation"21:47
diminotenbut my gvfs installation looks fine21:47
diminotenthat is, it's totally there21:47
diminotenbest I could find was "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11558897"21:48
diminotenbuuut21:48
diminotenabsolutely not helpful21:48
W4spshade34321: See if xev shows mouse events. Also, if it's a BT mouse check the battery. May soud obvious but happens all the time.21:48
zally666Artemis3: any clues what can i try ?21:49
zally666Artemis3: why does tvtime need sudo ?21:49
zally666yes21:49
soulstitchmmoActionParsnip: The going to root didn't work, but when I logged back in I ran the sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh and that worked.21:49
zally666how ?21:49
zally666its the driver21:49
zally666paste.ubuntu.com/1154311/   Artemis321:49
Artemis3zally666, you don't need sudo with tvtime21:49
shade34321W4sp: it's a corded USB mouse...I will21:49
Artemis3zally666, only your user must belong to the proper group21:49
zally666ah21:50
zally666lets do that first ? how ?21:50
Artemis3zally666, i believe its group video, did you make another user?21:50
ActionParsnipsoulstitchmmo: thought removing the driver would do it21:50
W4spDo we have cwm ported to Ubuntu?21:50
zally666witch user should i make ?21:50
zally666another user ?21:51
Artemis3zally666, when you make a new user, you have to make sure it belongs to various grooups, like audio, video21:51
diminotenis there a samba client out there that's not part of nautilus21:51
zally666how do i add my user to those groups ?21:51
ActionParsnipzally666: sudo usermod -a -G groupname username21:51
Dr_Willisdiminoten:  several of them in the repos.. some cli tools also.21:52
diminotenwhy is everything so fucking hard in ubuntu...21:52
Artemis3zally666, first type id in the console, and paste the results to pastebin21:52
zally666i prolly need to reinstall carddriver v4l and what else ?21:52
diminotenevery one I've tried to use has failed21:52
Dr_Willisdiminoten:  then theres the fusesmb tool that sort of auto-mounts samba shares.21:52
IdleOne!language | diminoten21:52
ubottudiminoten: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.21:52
ActionParsnipdiminoten: its not, your are just so tuned into windows taht anything different is obviously hard for you21:52
diminotenwrong os21:52
diminotenyou mean os x21:52
isopovhello, Nautilus doesn't list my android phone in the devices section - lsusb shows it in the output - can you please point me to the path to investigate and solve this problem?21:52
ActionParsnipdiminoten: whichever21:52
Psi-JackDr_Willis: EWWWWW!21:52
diminotenso anyway21:52
diminotenhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1155889721:52
zally666do i need to change groupname in video and user to username ?21:53
diminotenif being an experienced linux user will make this problem trivial to you21:53
Artemis3zally666, i don't think you need to install any drivers, it should work with fresh install21:53
diminotenplease go for it ActionParsnip21:53
violinapprenisopov: is android set in mass storage mode?21:53
Artemis3zally666, not change group, ADD to group21:53
Dr_WillisMicroSoft has  made changes to their network share stuff that even confuses my windows machines.  diminoten  you could try  the gnome file manager but enter the ip# of the samba server instead of its hostname.21:53
Nisstyre<diminoten> is there a samba client out there that's not part of nautilus21:53
bkc_isopov: did you mount it?21:53
Nisstyresmbclient?21:53
Psi-JackDr_Willis: Fuse+SMB == super bad21:53
zally666but the pastebin says wrong tuner detect card -221:53
isopovviolinappren, yes21:53
Dr_Willis!info smb4k21:53
ubottusmb4k (source: smb4k): Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.10-1.1 (precise), package size 1560 kB, installed size 3958 kB (Only available for linux-any; kfreebsd-any)21:53
diminotenNisstyre, ugh21:53
ActionParsnipzally666: yes, so the command would be:  sudo usermod -a -G video $USER      and it will add your username (denoted by the $USER variable) to the video group21:53
Dr_WillisPsi-Jack:  not tried it in ages.21:53
Psi-JackAutoFS FTW!21:54
diminotenubottu, using gnome21:54
Nisstyrediminoten: stop being so difficult21:54
Artemis3zally666, login, and type command id21:54
Nisstyrethat answered your question21:54
violinapprenisopov: is there a device file for it? check: ls /dev/sd*21:54
diminotenNisstyre, it's not me it's ubuntu21:54
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violinapprenisopov: or better, use: sudo blkid21:54
Dr_Willispcmanfm seems to be able to browse shares now also.. just tried it..21:54
ActionParsnipdiminoten: can you give the output of:  lsb_release -sc21:55
michelfpi just accidentally interrupted ubuntu instalation, what do?21:55
ActionParsnipdiminoten: please drop the attitude21:55
michelfpi have LVs21:55
diminotenprecise21:55
isopovbkc_, violinappren, I looked in /dev/sd* - there is only my HDD there, other similar files (sg0, sr0) seems to be not mountable21:55
bkc_michelfp: restart, install again21:55
bkc_isopov: sg0 & sr0 is the burner21:56
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idodeisukeDoes anyone know, where the list of all installed packages on a ubuntu system is saved? The system isn't bootable, but I have access via live cd.21:56
ActionParsnipdiminoten: do you have  gvfs-backends installed?21:56
isopov"sudo blkid" - shows only HDD (cool command, thanks, need to remember)21:56
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zally666okey thkx21:56
BlacklightSleepi…oh, come on!21:56
zally666videoinput: Driver refuses to start streaming: Device or resource busy.21:56
* BlacklightSleepi mutters about low nick char limits21:56
mohannadmichelfp:ithink if you rebooted again you will find an option in the main menu says continue broken installation or something21:56
diminotenActionParsnip, yes21:56
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zally666Artemis3: ping21:57
zally666did the group thing21:57
violinapprenisopov: unplug the cable, do: sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog          and then plug the cable and pastebin the output text21:57
zally666video group thjat is21:57
violinappren!paste | isopov21:57
ubottuisopov: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:57
ActionParsnipdiminoten: tried:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install nautilus21:57
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diminotenI tried this already but ok21:58
ActionParsnipdiminoten: if you use the file -> connect to server   does it connect ok?21:58
diminotenno21:58
Artemis3zally666, what is output of command:         id21:58
ActionParsnipdiminoten: can you ping the server?21:58
diminotenI click "Connect to server" and I am greeted with a dialog21:58
zally666http://pastebin.com/BVJF5q5m21:59
GameraDoes anyone know how to get box.net to mount and connect on start up so I can transfer and access files in my box.net account through the file manager?21:59
diminotenit's the connect to server dialog except everything's grayed out21:59
zally666Artemis3: alot stuff with my username and groups21:59
diminotenand at the top, I see in a red box the following two sentences21:59
isopovviolinappren, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1154327/ - first is for unplug and three after plugging, I think21:59
FreeMansMindI lost connection21:59
diminoten"Can't load the supported server method list.  Please check your gvfs installation"21:59
FreeMansMindI do not see nothing in Startup List... there are some thing running on startup21:59
Artemis3zally666, use pastebin21:59
diminotenthe server is pingable21:59
zally666sorry sended it in pm22:00
FreeMansMindthis did not help either: sudo sed -i ‘s/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g’ /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop22:00
ActionParsnipdiminoten: do you have the gvfs package installed?22:00
diminotenyes22:00
diminoten"gvfs is already the newest version."22:00
ActionParsnipdiminoten: tried reinstalling that package too?22:00
acidrainActionParsnip, i have concluded that ubuntu is best flavor. for my personal needs that is. plus not to mention the Screenlets int he repos is best version and handled beautifully22:00
shade34321W4sp: I tried the xev thing and I believe it recognizes the mouse but as you can see in this picture, http://imgur.com/BMeJn , I can't really be sure22:00
diminotenActionParsnip, trying now22:01
zally666Artemis3: got it ?22:01
diminotenno dice22:01
violinapprenisopov: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-connect-your-android-ice-cream-sandwich-phone-to-ubuntu-for-file-access22:01
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Artemis3zally666, i see, but now do this: ls -l ~/.tvtime22:01
diminotenSetting up gvfs (1.12.1-0ubuntu1)22:01
diminoten1.12.1 is the version I'm using22:01
violinapprenisopov: also see http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2012/01/connecting-samsung-ics-to-ubuntu-using-mtp/22:01
zally666PM Artemis322:02
ActionParsnipdiminoten: have you tried (in terminal):    nautilus sftp://username@server/path22:02
isopovviolinappren, thanks, seems to be what I need. It is Android 4. Thanks for helping with your searching Dao.22:03
diminoten"Nautilus cannot handle "sftp" locations."22:03
violinapprenisopov: you're welcome22:03
ActionParsnipdiminoten: tried another file browser like pcmanfm?22:03
diminotenActionParsnip, I'll try it22:03
diminoten"Operation not supported."22:04
diminotenwhen I tried pcmanfm sftp://me@place/share22:04
ActionParsnipdiminoten: use the menus of the app to connect, may work22:05
diminoten"Operation not supported" again22:05
diminotenwhen I go to the Go menu and select "Network drives"22:05
diminotenit just seems like my gvfs isn't being found22:06
ActionParsnipdiminoten: do you use ssh keys?22:06
diminotenno22:06
diminotenwell not for thisw22:06
W4spshade34321: The idea with xev is how X recognizes your keyboard. touchscreen and mouse events. The information is in the text output in terminal, not on your desktop. Also, check lsusb if your USB hub and mouse are listed there.22:08
wilee-nileeisopov, with my nexus I found the mtp not to work but gmtp does22:08
diminotenActionParsnip, I can connect to the server via smbclient22:09
diminotenso it's not on that end22:09
W4spcvs diff -u -rOPENBSD_5_1 -rHEAD22:10
ActionParsnipdiminoten: well is it running samba or sftp?22:10
diminotensamba22:10
diminotenwell both22:10
diminoteneither way22:10
diminotennot relevant as I can't even select my connection type22:11
ActionParsnipdiminoten: well it is as its a totally differet service22:11
diminotenokay ignore all the smb crap22:11
ActionParsnipdiminoten: have you tried connecting with filezilla?22:11
diminotenmy "Connect a server..." is broken22:11
diminotenthat's the actual problem, I can do literally nothing with that... app?22:11
diminotendialog box, whatever22:12
ActionParsnipdiminoten: which dialogue box?22:12
diminotenI am given no selectable options when I open that dialog and I get the errors I mentioned before22:12
diminotenthe "Connect to server..." one22:12
thedarkihello22:12
violinapprendiminoten: what are you trying to accomplish ?22:12
ChogyDanif anyone knows about compiliing kernels, specifically configuring them, I could use some help22:12
violinapprenthedarki: hello22:12
diminotenviolinappren, I want my "Connect to server" dialog box to work22:12
diminotenwhat I'm trying to accomplish I have already accomplished via other means22:13
diminotennow I want this box to not sit there, broken22:13
violinapprenChogyDan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile/22:13
ActionParsnipdiminoten: ok but does filezilla connect?22:13
diminoten...sure22:13
diminotenfor what that matters, why the hell not22:13
ActionParsnipdiminoten: checks the service is listening22:13
mnewtonHow do I remove accessibility features in ubuntu. I hold shift down for long times sometimes and slow keys gets activated.22:13
violinapprendiminoten: in what way is it broken?22:13
mnewtonI don't want to deactivate them - I want to completely remove them.22:14
ActionParsnipdiminoten: it isolates the issue to nautius etc if something not using gvfs can connect22:14
diminotenviolinappren, the following error is displayed, and none of the input boxes are usable "Can't load the supported server method list.  Please check your gvfs installation."22:14
violinapprenmnewton: type 'keyboard' in the dash search and then theres an accessibility tab22:14
ChogyDanthanks violinappren, I do know about that page and am following it.  I'm having trouble with the configuration part22:15
violinapprendiminoten: have you tried reinstalling gvfs22:15
violinappren!details | ChogyDan22:15
diminotenviolinappren, yes22:15
ubottuChogyDan: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."22:15
shade34321W4sp: I understand that but I can't really read the terminal since it's only showing part of it, I'm also having a problem X and Nvidia. i will try lsusb22:15
xp_prghi all, trying to understand the best low ram usage linux live cd for an hp latop I can use, I heard mint is the best right now, any ideas?22:15
mnewtonviolinappren, i'm using xubuntu22:16
k1l_diminoten: gvfs-backends  is installed?22:16
ActionParsnipxp_prg: tinycore, puppy or xpud are low ram usage22:16
diminotenk1l_, yeah I've reinstalled it a couple of times heh22:16
ActionParsnipxp_prg: best is subjective22:16
violinapprenmnewton: all the details on one line22:16
ChogyDanviolinappren: ok, but please don't ask for details if you can't help.  I just don't know which command I should use to configure, debian/rules editconfigs or debian/rules updateconfigs.  I also don't know how to check if I have configured correctly.  I feel lost22:17
xp_prgwell I need all the apps like openoffice etc...22:17
blaggardxp_rg: try either lubuntu or xubuntu22:17
mnewtonviolinappren, sorry, i want to remove these features all together - more like an apt-get purge blah-package22:17
blaggardMint is a full-weight distro22:17
ActionParsnipxp_prg: puppy has an office suite, you can add whatever you want to xpud and tinycore22:17
xp_prgdoes it run on a live cd?22:18
W4spshade34321: I understand that you cannot move your terminal without your mouse.22:18
ActionParsnipxp_prg: sure22:18
violinapprenChogyDan: this is a public channel, you're expected to give all useful details of a problem and any one may help22:18
blaggardxp_rg: puppy has a live cd version, yes22:18
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xp_prgcan I install new apps when in the live cd mode?22:18
ChogyDanviolinappren: I know how it works -.-22:18
jagosixHello People22:19
W4spchannel - In Unity/Ubuntu 3d and 2d... How do I move the terminal (gnome-terminal) window without utilizing the mouse?22:19
ActionParsnipxp_prg: with xpud you simply copy the .opt files to the right folder no the usb and they are accessible22:19
jagosixCan I use remastersys with 12.04 ?22:19
violinapprenChogyDan: not if you withhold the details from public :)22:19
xp_prgok my next really hard question, I don't have a blank cd to use and I need to do a usb boot, can I use my iphone's usb drive to do it somehow?22:19
ActionParsnipW4sp: if you use terminal a lot I can recommend guake22:20
blaggardxp_rg: I don't think so.22:20
blaggardactually, I know so.22:20
ActionParsnipxp_prg: its an iphone, i doubt doing anything remotely intelligent with it will work22:20
xp_prgok22:20
blaggard^ what he said22:20
shade34321W4sp: I got the mouse working. I disabled all the NVidia drives via terminal through ssh and rebooted. Now it works. Thanks for your help!22:21
shade34321now to figure out why twinview won't work><22:21
W4spActionParsnip: I dont' have Unity running. I need to assist a user who's mouse isn't working. I can't give advise on how to move the terminal.22:21
vvpaliniphone's are actually really intelligent, they can make calls for you and such22:21
W4spshade34321: Very welcome.22:21
ActionParsnipW4sp: you don't need unity for guake, you don't even need gnome desktop22:21
zykotick9W4sp: ctrl+alt+f1 for a VT perhaps?22:21
diminotenI feel like I have a fairly unique problem...22:22
diminotenI'll post to the forums about it I guess22:22
ActionParsnipW4sp: ah, you could enable mouse keys22:22
jagosixQuestion....Can I use remastersys with 12.04 ?22:22
ActionParsnipjagosix: is that stil developed?22:22
wilee-nileejagosix, should be able to22:22
W4spActionParsnip: If you would take the to actually read my requirement...?22:22
theDboyskrilla22:22
theDboyexit22:22
jagosixWell I want to create my own custom live disc22:22
wilee-nileeActionParsnip, back by popular demands. ;)22:23
Dr_Willisdiminoten:  theres askubuntu.com also22:23
jagosixanysuggestions ?22:23
jagosixany  suggestions ?22:23
Dr_Willisjagosix:  i think 12.04 broke some of the remastering tools.. there may be updated versions of them out by now.22:23
Dr_Willis!remaster22:23
ubottuInterested in remastering the Ubuntu !LiveCD or !Alternate installer? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization - Or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility22:23
ActionParsnipjagosix: http://sourceforge.net/projects/remastersys/files/  looks dead22:23
mnewtonwhat package install accessibility features like slow keys. I want to purge it. I'm on xubuntu.22:23
diminotenDr_Willis I'll post it, but I'm not sure if my windows addled brain can handle the concept of getting community help, right ActionParsnip ? :/22:24
blaggardhey, how bad are the kernel issues with power/heat management in 12.04? I have a new Latitude on the way...22:24
Dr_Willisdiminoten:  with that attitude.. i doubt it.22:24
violinapprenmnewton: you can disable it using the "settings manager"22:24
W4spzykotick9: Does Ctrl+alt+F1 allow me to move the window with the help of arrow keys?22:24
diminotenI wish my attitude was not because of how I was treated here...22:24
Dr_Willisjagosix:  http://www.remastersys.com/  seems to work with 12.0422:25
W4spzykotick9: (sounds stupid to ask but I don't have a DE like Unity or GNOME3.22:25
OerHeksHi, where to ask support for paid apps in softwarecentre ?22:25
ActionParsnipW4sp: unity isn't a DE22:25
wilee-nileeActionParsnip, at sourceforge yes the site mentions the path to its continuance. http://www.remastersys.com/22:26
Dr_Willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/87335/nautilus-cannot-load-supported-server-method-list-please-check-your-gvfs-inst22:27
violinapprenActionParsnip: is it not?22:27
mnewtonviolinappren, I know I can disable it. But it's the enabling I dont like. I've got stuff bound to the shift key and I don't want to keep opening it up and disabling it.22:27
ActionParsnipviolinappren: no, its a shell for the gnome desktop22:27
violinapprenmnewton: it's a one time only thing22:27
violinapprenActionParsnip: looks more like a fork of gnome to me22:28
ActionParsnipviolinappren: you can also use gnome-panel or gnome-shell instead22:28
blaggardwhat, unity?22:28
blaggardalso, Cinnamon or MATE22:29
k1l_violinappren: unity is just a shell, gnome3 is the DE22:29
blaggardUsing Cinnamon myself, very clean but occaisionally glitchy22:29
Belial`animations are slow for me on cinnamon.22:29
Belial`same with gnome-shell. mutter doesn't seem as fast as compiz.22:29
Belial`as far as effects go.22:29
blaggardbelial`: what kind of hardware are you dealing with?22:30
coinn8212hey... looks like http://kernel.ubuntu.com/ is down?22:30
coinn8212could someone confirm?22:30
Belial`core i3 with intel integrated. gnome-shell was running really smooth when it was first released.22:30
Belial`after 3.4, not so much.22:30
violinapprencoinn8212: it is22:31
k1l_!ot | coinn821222:31
ubottucoinn8212: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:31
ActionParsnipnever had a glitch on core2 duo cpu, 3Gb ram and intel 945GM GPU...22:31
blaggardcoinn8212: its down alright22:31
W4sp!unity | ActionParsnip22:31
ubottuActionParsnip: Unity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity22:31
ActionParsnipcoinn8212: try    http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/22:31
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coinn8212ActionParsnip: haha... cool site... lemme check22:32
ChogyDancanonical was moving data centers today22:32
ActionParsnipW4sp: I'm well aware, I've used the OS a while and am also an Ubuntu member :P22:32
blaggardoh right, the datacenter thing22:32
blaggarddurr hurr, forgot22:32
W4spActionParsnip: I'm aware of that, too. Are you on a war path tonight?22:32
coinn8212What's the ubuntu IRC channel to signal this to Ubuntu admins so that they bring http://kernel.ubuntu.com/ up again?22:32
blaggardcoinn8212: they are moving datacenters right now22:33
ActionParsnipW4sp: just curious why you sent me the factoid when its someting I already know22:33
coinn8212thanks blaggard, (any ETA by chance? just asking)22:33
blaggardShould be back up tomorrow22:33
coinn8212okie22:33
TaJMoXNautilus says "Can not move file to trash, would you like to delete permanently?"  ... Why? It is an NTFS partition and is mounted with proper permissions.22:33
coinn8212thanks a lot22:33
blaggardno prob22:33
coinn8212have a good day/night22:33
bzzzz!mirros22:33
zykotick9!mirrors | bzzzz looking for this?22:34
ubottubzzzz looking for this?: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Precise, and help keeping the servers' load low!22:34
bzzzzzykotick9: merci22:35
ActionParsnipTaJMoX: is it read only?22:35
blaggardubottu: what do you mean by !notunity?22:35
ubottuI am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:35
bmanuel!notunity22:36
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic22:36
isopovI don't remember who suggested that and I restarted since and chatzilla seems to not have history - but thanks for gmtp instead of mtp - it is very intuitive comparing to terminal commands and mouting both internal memory and sd-card together into one folder (and both a mounted partially - not all files and folders are accessible) - thanks a lot.22:36
Dr_Willisblaggard:  the bot trigger is '!nounity'22:37
mesaphlinhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=NG&feature=relmfu&hl=en-GB&v=J55ZaxIJhRg   -  In this video the basic dumb terminal spits out the characters in 300 baud. I wanted to do the same thing but after it says termainal ready, nothing I could write in the terminal. Just frozen there. what should I do?22:37
TaJMoXActionParsnip no, it's rw but owner is listed as root. And sudo chown user isn't changing the owner (ntfs problem probably?)22:37
Dr_Willisblaggard:  !things trigger the bot to spit out  frequently needed answers and responzes. :)22:37
blaggardok, so I gotta be honest, I just started using IRC so a lot of the small stuff slips past me22:38
ActionParsnipTaJMoX: yes, ntfs is an ass like taht22:38
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Dr_WillisTaJMoX:  you dont chown/chmod NTFS or VFAT filesystems22:39
TaJMoXActionParsnip I think I'll just have to deal with not having a trash ... funny that I can delete/move/rename but it won't move to trash22:39
TaJMoXDr_Willis Any idea why nautilus won't move it to .Trash-1000 but it will move it wherever I want if I drag/drop it?22:39
AdvocatedTaJMoX, out of interest, ive  not been reading, but whats the problem you're having?22:40
jarek_ /join #ubuntu-pl22:40
silverarrowis there a way to burn mp4 as regular CD to play in CD player?22:40
blaggardTajMox: have you tried mv to trash via terminal?22:40
TaJMoXAdvocated trying to delete a file "Cannot move file to trash. Do you want to delete it immediately?"22:40
Dr_WillisTaJMoX:  permissions on the root of the mounted drive perhaps.   How was it mounted? by you and fstab? or auto-mounted? The ntfs-config tool may set it to mount with more open permissions that let you do it.22:40
blaggardalso, try running it as sudo22:40
TaJMoXblaggard I can move it, but pressing DELETE won't work =\22:40
Dr_WillisTaJMoX:  I normally hate finding .Trash-XXXXX directories on my ntfs/vfat  partions and usb drives. :)22:40
TaJMoXblaggard Yes as root it won't move to trash either.22:41
silverarrowDr_Willis, does that happen a lot?22:41
TaJMoXDr_Willis So all files will be deleted permanently then using NTFS filesystem??22:41
Dr_Willissilverarrow:  happens enough where its annoying.. but now a days ubuntu asks to empty the trash befor removeing my USB.22:41
Dr_WillisTaJMoX:  it COULD be since ntfs cant set the owner of the files/dirs as the current user deleteing the file. its failing.. ive never noticed the issie on ntfs.. let me look22:42
TaJMoXOnly reason it's ntfs is so I can share with other computers in the house ... I guess I'll just change to ext4 and set up samba ... Dr_Willis blaggard Advocated22:42
silverarrowoh, yes I am with you, I rememeber22:42
i7cdoes ubuntu server offer disk encryption in the installation process?22:42
TaJMoXi7c yes, you have the option to encrypt your home folder22:42
i7cTaJMoX: thx for the info :)22:43
TaJMoXi7c there is a check box during install =) np22:43
i7cnice!22:43
Dr_WillisTaJMoX:  it just let me move a file to the Trash on my NTFS partition i mounted via nautilus. :) But i will have to say this is on my 12.10 test machine22:43
blaggarddr_willis: did they fix the power and heat management in the new kernel?22:43
mesaphlinhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=NG&feature=relmfu&hl=en-GB&v=J55ZaxIJhRg - someone help me with this if I may ask please? I want to do the same thing but after it says terminal ready, it is stuck there, nothing I can type. what should I do?22:44
crimsonmaneblaggard: that's a question of "turning off visual effects"22:44
Dr_Willis  /dev/sda2 on /run/media/willis/WIN7 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)22:44
ChogyDanblaggard: last I heard, no.  But wasn't it post 3.2 kernel?22:44
Dr_Willisblaggard:  ive never had any issues with it.. i imagine it depends on the exact chipset/hardware22:44
TaJMoXDr_Willis I just noticed when I run nautilus as root, it DOES move the files to .Trash-0 ... but as user, it doesn't move it to .Trash-100022:44
blaggardI am just concerned, as i am due for a new laptop, and just want the stupid simple useability from 11.04/gnome2 back22:45
TaJMoXblaggard isn't compiling your own kernel the best way to go always?22:45
Dr_WillisTaJMoX:  all the files on the ntfs here are owed by my user that mounted the ntfs22:46
Dr_Willisls -ld .Trash-1000/22:46
Dr_Willisdrwx------ 1 willis willis 0 Aug 18 18:42 .Trash-1000/22:46
Sporty1TJ- Are you here22:47
TaJMoXDR_Willis drwxrwxrwx 1 root root      0 Aug 15 15:14 .Trash-1000/22:47
TaJMoX... =/22:47
blaggardTaJMoX: I heard that changing kernels tends to break something in apparmor22:47
TaJMoXblaggard Well that sucks ... I just recently came back to Linux after about 6 years, I was planning on compiling my kernel soon (since I've noticed some cpu issues)22:48
Dr_Willisive not needed to use a custom kernel in years...22:48
Dr_Willistheres experimental/ppas for some newer/updated kernels.22:48
TaJMoXI notice a lot of performance/stability when using a custom kernel... but may be placebo22:48
Dr_Willis!kernel22:48
ubottuThe core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)22:48
TaJMoXThe point is, compiling your own kernel will write it for the machine code for your specific architecture (Core 2 duo for example) ... right?22:49
Dr_WillisTaJMoX:  not always.22:49
ChogyDanTaJMoX: I heard that stuff is loaded at compile time now adays22:49
Dr_WillisTaJMoX:  i doubt if you will notice much gain from messing with the kernel.22:50
TaJMoXIt used to help ... shrug.22:50
Dr_Willisused to be 512mb was a lot of ram....22:50
blaggardmy understanding is the issue has to do with the kernel not being able to throttle the hardware properly.22:50
TaJMoXSpeaking of CPU, anyone notice that plugin-container uses an incredible amount of CPU? Even if it's just a small flash running22:50
blaggardnot idling the CPU, not lowering fan speeds, etc22:51
TaJMoXAlso, xorg is idling at 3% =\22:51
zykotick9Dr_Willis: "used to be" for sure ;)22:51
TaJMoXblaggard exactly, so a custom compiled cpu would be able to utilize your specific hardware properly.22:51
zykotick9no one needs more then 256MB ;)22:51
TaJMoXcustom compiled kernel*22:51
TaJMoXI still have my Packard Bell 386 @ 33mhz w/ 4MB RAM22:52
TaJMoXIt doesn't run Ubuntu xD22:52
shade34321On one of the computers the wired USB keyboard and mouse does not work any more, they were working previously before a reboot. I check lsusb and it sees both22:53
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TaJMoXIn Xchat, how do I disable showing who has joined/quit ?22:54
W4spMost of the time my Xorg idles at 0.00. Seldom at 2. That's because my DE doesn't need much from Xorg.22:54
TaJMoXUnity seems to be super resource hog... even using Unity 2D22:54
TaJMoXplugin-container is always at 50% cpu ... this sucks...22:55
W4spTaJMoX: use /ignore, eg. JOINS NICKS22:55
blaggardTaJMoX: thats why I run either gnome-fallback, mate, or cinnamon.22:56
TaJMoXW4sp so like /ignore 'has joined' will work?22:56
TaJMoX...but what if someone says "Bill has joined our team at work"22:56
TaJMoXIt's been like 12 years since I've used IRC =)22:56
W4spTaJMoX: /ignore JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS reduces the output to conversation channel messages.22:57
W4spTaJMoX: It's not /ignore 'has joined'. It is '/ignore joins parts nicks quits'22:57
W4spTaJMoX: Just type in /ignore and it shoud tell you what's being ignored.22:57
JoeL3royhey-22:58
W4spTaJMoX: I also recommend to see if irssi does the trick for you. There are two X-chat in Software packages, one is x-chat, the other x-chat GNOME.22:59
Dr_WillisTaJMoX:  flash sucking down cpu is not unitys fault.23:00
Dr_Willisxchat has a menu item in the channel tab/menus to ignore stuff per channel23:01
silverarrowis there a way to make mp4 to mp3 or burnable audio file?23:01
TaJMoXDr_Willis I know this is the other issue I'm having =)23:01
Dr_Willissilverarrow:  many of the media apps in ubuntu can convert/gnerate a standard music cd.23:01
Dr_Willissilverarrow:  i tend to use k3b23:01
silverarrowI am in lubuntu, I might just need to install23:02
Dr_WillisTaJMoX:  flash is an issue...  I tend to not use flash whenever possible.23:02
silverarrowDr_Willis, thanks23:02
Dr_Willis!burn23:02
ubottuCD/DVD burning software: k3b (KDE), brasero (GNOME), gnomebaker, xcdroast, wodim (command-line) | To burn ISO files, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto23:02
TaJMoXDr_Willis Damn .. I'm forced to run Flash at all times for work. There goes 50% of my cpu ><23:02
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Dr_WillisTaJMoX:  forced at work?23:02
shade34321On one of the computers the wired USB keyboard and mouse does not work any more, they were working previously before a reboot. I checked lsusb and it sees both23:03
Dr_Willisyou have to watch  cat videos at work? ;P23:03
OerHeksTaJMoX, 50% cpu is not bad, is it?23:03
silverarrowDr_Willis, I have xfburn23:03
TaJMoXDr_Willis no, a web app we use uses Flash... it's not graphics intensive but still taking up 50% >,<23:03
* zykotick9 thinks !burn is missing dvd+rw-tools for growisofs...23:03
TaJMoXOerHeks Considering I'd also like to do some encoding/compiling ... yes, the flash app is really tiny shouldn't be using 50%23:03
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W4spTaJMoX: Flash can get very CPU hungry if you use Flash to dynamicaly display data, eg. pie charts or similar with data feed. ajax or not ajax.23:06
Dr_Willisi was just wondering what household cleaner had to do with flash... ;)   wife just asked me where the ajax was for the bathtub.. ;P23:07
TaJMoXI would like to ajax Flash from the world ...23:07
TaJMoXNeeds to be something better23:07
Dr_Willisits the 'its what we always used so we will always use it' mentality23:08
ianm_fresh install of 12.04 on a Thinkpad X230 and the touchpad hops about 6 pixels at a time, any way to make it smoother?23:08
Dr_Willisbbl23:08
gfkjuniorhey ya'll, just a quick question wondering how I use my laptops webcam.23:09
ActionParsnipianm_: are yu fully updated?23:09
ActionParsnipgfkjunior: does it work in cheese?23:09
ianm_ActionParsnip: yeah just did and rebooted23:10
gfkjuniorI dont have cheese, I'll go ahead and try it!23:10
ianm_oh you need cheese23:11
gfkjuniorcool deal, thanks23:11
W4spTaJMoX: Agree. I ensure my systems are hostile to Adobe's stuff.23:14
ActionParsnipianm_: tried disabling the 'disable touchpad while I type' as well as 'tap to click'23:14
OerHeksHi, where to get support for paid apps in softwarecentre ?23:15
zumo_Anyone have a benchmark tool suggestion?23:15
zumo_I want to see which of the two machines I have is better. I know what one is better spec wise, But I have a feeling the other machine actually preforms better.23:16
ianm_ActionParsnip: tried it, logged out / in, same chunky movement23:17
rustler770Anyone use gnupg/enigmail?23:17
OerHeksi have de-installation issues with a commercial app called "Xeoma" in software centre. i askes here for days, no answer ..23:17
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W4sprustler770: Could you ask specific questiosn.23:19
TaJMoXzumo_ I am also interested.23:20
BraviaHello: Any idea about this comment: Openbox is a minimalistic and lightweight window manager that is known to run much faster than metacity, its bulkier counterpart. And you can easily get it working while still using Gnome as your window manager / desktop environment. By running Openbox inside the Gnome environment your desktop will become cleaner and faster.23:21
rustler770I want to use my Thunderbird windows certs and import them into Ubuntu thunderbird23:21
Braviacan some one tell me what openbox exactly is please.23:21
TaJMoXBravia it draws windows in Xorg23:22
i7cBravia: it's a window manager ;) it takes care of drawing windows, also moving resizing etc23:22
TaJMoXBravia I mean, it's part of Xorg if you choose to use it, it will take over for the Window Manager you are currently using23:22
i7cBravia: it's a piece of software that you normally never notice because it just works23:22
TaJMoX!wm23:23
Atrikawhy am i getting a "connection refused" when trying to "git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-precise.git"23:23
i7cBravia: different windows managers have different features. so some can move windows with special key combinations while others can't for example.23:23
TaJMoX...Even ubottu doesn't know =)23:24
ActionParsnipianm_: may help http://hustoknow.blogspot.co.uk/2010/09/thinkpad-t510-laptops-mousetouchpad.html23:24
W4spBravia: Openbox is a window manager that interacts with our desktop manager.23:24
ActionParsnipAtrika: there was a datacentre move , it may still be affected23:24
unodxhello folks...anybody have problem with adjusting screen brightness after applying updates from ubuntu ?23:24
Atrika:(23:24
ActionParsnipunodx: does the system have a make and model?23:24
W4spianm_: Try to check with "xset m" if you can modify the mouse pointer speed.23:25
unodxits samsung laptop series 9...ubuntu 12.04 on it23:25
blaggardatrika: try back tomorrow23:25
BraviaW4sp:  Will it work faster as it says? I am using compiz effects too. If its workinf much faster and cleaner why ubuntu doesnt have it in default. What is the thing that I am missing about it?23:26
phy1729after apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop I need to reboot to get rid of the GUI correct?23:27
wilee-nileephy1729, not the way to take care of that.23:27
phy1729how would you suggest?23:28
wilee-nileephy1729, what desktop do you want?23:28
phy1729I want to get rid of all the non-server cruft too23:28
W4spBravia: That's somethign I can't answer. I would assume it is well a political decision made by canonical.23:28
phy1729none23:28
wilee-nileephy1729, headless,23:28
phy1729I just want the CLI23:28
wilee-nileephy1729, why didn't you just install the server?23:28
nothingspecialinstall the minimal version phy172923:28
phy1729I didn't do the install23:28
W4spphy1729: If you have the server installed how come that you have X?23:29
phy1729desktop was installed I would like to make it server23:29
phy1729I was told some time back to remove the desktop metapackage23:29
W4spphy1729: Do you have Desktop installed? Do you now want to turn it into Ubuntu Server?23:30
wilee-nileephy1729, others will be of more help here, but the desktop remove you suggest only removes a few things not the whole ubuntu gnome based pkgs23:30
shade34321On one of the computers the wired USB keyboard and mouse does not work any more, they were working previously before a reboot. I checked lsusb and it sees both any suggestions on other steps I can take to get them working again?23:30
phy1729W4sp: correct23:30
ActionParsnipshade34321: what about if you unplug, wait a short while then reconnect them?23:31
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MiggsHi guys. I have a pulseaudio/zeroconf question - I can find my network sound sink in avahi-discover (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1154444/ 5.1 Digital on xbmc@xbmc) but it doesn't show up in the list of devices in the sound control panel. paprefs is configured to allow access to remote devices locally. Any hints on how I can resolve this? Cheers23:32
W4spphy1729: You can't turn desktop  into server by removing any deskto specific packages. The server has an optimized kernel. That said, you can turn a desktop into server and remove desktop specific packages afterwards (eg X).23:33
sam101does anyone know anything about ubuntu tv23:34
shade34321ActionParsnip: I tried that but I will try it again23:34
wilee-nileephy1729, If it were me I would just reinstall the server, but to each their own.23:34
ianm_W4sp: any tips on what numbers to give it?  the slightest movement on the touchpad makes the mouse cursor jump many pixels23:34
phy1729wilee-nilee: already have too many customizations to go that route23:34
W4spianm_: Did you try the command I suggested?23:34
svennpcan someone help me configuring metamodes for nvidia graphicks card? i currently have it working but it uses wrong monitor when i start games23:34
phy1729also that would incur too much down time23:35
ianm_W4sp: xset m?  yeah playing with it now23:35
phy1729W4sp: is there an easy way to change kernels?23:35
dekanHello!23:36
sam101what is the diffrence between xterm and the terminal23:36
ianm_W4sp: it actually seems more precise vertically23:37
W4spphy1729: I can't tell you at if there is a specific package to do what you want as I don't have Ubuntu under my fingertips. But the path should be 1. install server, 2. remove desktop specific. Also, as I said you don't turn desktop into server by removing any X related packages.23:37
dekansam101: I guess not much of difference if you're doing basic stuff.23:37
Artemis3sam101, xterm is a terminal for X, do you mean a console?23:38
shade34321ActionParsnip: I just plugged them back in, in different ports just in case the ports were bad and they still don't work and lsusb shows them again23:38
phy1729W4sp: what meta package is that? there isn't a ubuntu-server23:39
zally666videoinput: Cannot open capture device /dev/video0: No such file or directory23:40
Artemis3zally666, aww, well you know what to do ;)23:41
zally666:)23:41
zally666lol23:41
zally666i give up23:41
zally666i'll buy a dlink network tv server23:41
zally666got a link ?23:42
W4spianm_: Well, you may need to create an xorg.conf file. Pease can you let me know your ThinkPad X model again?23:42
ianm_W4sp: X23023:42
TaJMoXWhat do I press to open the boot loader before startup?23:44
TaJMoXSo I can revert to other kernels if I must23:44
TaJMoXAnd give boot options, recovery, etc23:44
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sam101hi23:44
sam101does anyone now about ubuntu tv23:45
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Phr3d13i am having an issue while web browsing and while trying to use pithos, with pithos (pandora client) i get this error: http://pastie.org/454707523:45
svennpcan anyone please give me some help with metamodes for nvidia graphicks card? i have been trying to get games showing up on monitor 1 for about 3 hours now :L23:46
sam101u need to label ur tag23:46
snagglepussTaJMoX:  grub2 menu at boot: hold down shift key23:47
linuxuz3rhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSS1zh45Fts&feature=related23:48
wilee-nileelinuxuz3r, please don't spam the channel. :)23:49
linuxuz3rfudgees you23:49
W4spianm_: According to my finding it shoudl use the synaptics driver.23:49
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wilee-nileelinuxuz3r, lol, you know a pre-pubescent cognitive development is so impressive.23:50
linuxuz3ri was just jking23:50
linuxuz3ri didnt even spam23:50
TaJMoXMay someone please recommend a fun MMO?23:52
TaJMoXThanks snagglepuss23:52
linuxuz3rwizards 10123:52
W4spianm_: I mentioned this because it could have been detected as PS/2 Mouse.23:52
ianm_W4sp: 'xinput' shows SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad23:53
W4spphy1729: I can't tell you but there shoudl be one. Given that your system is in production I recommend to backup and even dd your OS partitions prior any upgrade.23:54
Phr3d13i am having an issue while web browsing and while trying to use pithos, with pithos (pandora client) i get this error: http://pastie.org/454707523:54
W4spianm_: Excellent. Now we need to figure out if X loads the driver. Can you check with your Xorg.0.log in /var/log? It shoudl tell how the drivers are loaded.23:55
Phr3d13just got this one while trying to log in to report a bug in launchpad: http://pastie.org/454714423:56
W4spianm_: Also, you may need to create an xorg.log (Xorg :1 -configure > ~/xorg.conf.new) as root23:57
ianm_W4sp: yeah it looks like the synaptic driver, x-axis range 1472-5768, y-axis 1408-506223:57

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