[00:00] <linuxuz3r> ntfs is healthy
[00:00] <linuxuz3r> mesa utils ok
[00:02] <linuxuz3r> also when im in gnome 3 2d i the taskbar and menu bar of my second monitor gets transfered to the primary display how do i move it to the secondary display
[00:03] <Atranimus> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzlljWKun_s
[00:04] <xand_> hi all
[00:05] <mwilliams1220> Is there a way to make a program start from the cl minimized?
[00:06] <sdz> How can I specify the monitor for initial kernel output, framebuffer, console, etc?  (fyi: X works fine)
[00:10] <coldpizza72i> Could someone help me setup an nfs server... Im having many problems
[00:10] <zykotick9> sdz: are your VT consoles (ctrl-alt F1-F6) mirrored the same on all your monitors or only on 1?   (that's how mine are right now - mirrored, each showing the login window. different distro/release then you though).  if you get an answer, i'd please share with the channel ;)
[00:11] <linuxuz3r> also when im in gnome 3 2d i the taskbar and menu bar of my second monitor gets transfered to the primary display how do i move it to the secondary display
[00:11] <l3d> was wondering if there is a way to turn off the hold the super key done popup cheatsheet?
[00:12] <davidl> <LookupTable cacheSize="1000" commitInterval="100" fileURL="${DATATMP_DIR}/INT001_Poc_Extra_lookup" id="LookupTable4" key="org_id;poc_type" metadata="Metadata14" name="POC_EXTRA_LOOKUP" pageSize="16" type="persistentLookup"/>
[00:12] <davidl> (sorry)
[00:12] <davidl> I just upgraded Jaunty to Lucid on a Compaq Presario F700 laptop,  now the keyboard & mouse don't work with the X server ... any suggestions?
[00:14] <davidl> (that is,  I can SSH in fine,  and if I shut down gdm/kdm I can log in at the console,  but i can't log in via either gdm or kdm becuase me mouse and keyboard don't do anything)
[00:14] <sdz> zykotick9: On bootup and the console (tty's), I only get output on my smaller monitor.  I want it on my other monitor.  I have no issues with monitors in X.
[00:15] <zykotick9> davidl: good luck.  you're gonna need it.  upgrading an EOL distro to 10.04 (which i doubt many in this channel run anymore) seems very outdated for #ubuntu
[00:15] <zykotick9> sdz: ya i recall i only see initial boot on 1 monitor, also.  but my VTs are fine.  i don't know how to switch it ;)  good luck man!
[00:15] <eniac>  you could try startx
[00:16] <eniac> start "X Server"
[00:16] <zykotick9> to whomever eniac was talking to: using "sudo service lightdm start" might also be helpful to try.
[00:17] <mwilliams1220> command to start a window minimized?
[00:21] <dijonyummy> is there an easy way to stop unbuntu 12.04 from restting my /etc/resolv.conf?
[00:21] <zykotick9> dijonyummy: resolv.conf is deprecated.  move on.
[00:22] <zykotick9> dijonyummy: i think most stuff ends up in /etc/network/interfaces now... i don't know the details (or use N-M myself)
[00:22] <histo> How do I find out what DNS servers i'm using on my wireless connection?
[00:23] <ring1> ls
[00:23] <ring1> wrong window :)
[00:24] <AaronCampbell> How can you type extended unicode characters in Ubuntu/Unity?  In Windows I could do a multiplication symbol with <alt>+2015
[00:24] <rexis> hey does anyone else always get in youtube the error: and error occured, please try again later
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> rexis: do other flash sites work ok?
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> rexis: what browsers have you tried?
[00:25] <rexis> ActionParsnip: Mozila, Chrome. Ubuntu and Linux mint, not really any other flash sites. I think pandora is flash right? I use that. Do you know any other flash site to test?
[00:26] <miceiken> http://paste2.org/p/2130649 what do i do ?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> rexis: mozilla isn't a browser, firefox is the browser made by mozilla
[00:26] <dijonyummy> zykotick9, so where would i put stuff like domain, search, nameserver that i used to put in resolv.conf? i cant find doc where to put that in /etc/network/interfaces
[00:26] <trism> AaronCampbell: ctrl+shift+U type the numbers then enter
[00:26] <rexis> ActionParsnip: yea firefox
[00:26] <AaronCampbell> trism: I think I just figured it out.  2015 gave the wrong symbol...it expects hex not dex
[00:27] <AaronCampbell> s/dex/dec/
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> rexis: can you give a pastebin of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[00:27] <rexis> ActionParsnip: i can keep refreshjing and they eventually work
[00:27] <davidl> miceiken:  try "cp -a",  then "rm -r" when you know the data is safe in the other place
[00:27] <histo> Does anyone know how to check which dns servers network-manager is pulling from my dhcp router?
[00:27] <AaronCampbell> So I guess <ctrl>+<shift>+U, 00d7, <enter>
[00:27] <miceiken> what is the default chmod? 644?
[00:28] <trism> AaronCampbell: ahh yes, didn't notice the multiplication symbol part
[00:28] <AaronCampbell> trism: Now I just have to re-learn all the codes :|
[00:28] <AaronCampbell> Thanks for your help
[00:29] <miceiken> david_, same args? /from/* /to/
[00:31] <miceiken> davidl, think i broke the permissions :p miceiken@celeste:~$ cp -a /var/torrents/* /media/external/TV\ Shows/
[00:31] <miceiken> cp: cannot stat `/var/torrents/Boardwalk Empire/season02.tbn': Permission denied
[00:32]  * keyzs http://youtu.be/QGqzSjC6n6o
[00:35] <mark_peters> Hello. What is the difference between "none /tmp tmpfs" and "tmpfs /tmp tmpfs" in /etc/fstab ?
[00:35] <zykotick9> dijonyummy: histo1 (lol same issue really) sorry I only know/use the old method, using /etc/resolv.conf.  but 12.04 uses a different method!  i don't know it.
[00:39] <sdz> fyi.. console (VT) output to wrong monitor fixed... swapped cables to video card
[00:41] <mgalas> i'm getting an error 401 trying to install a software centre purchase
[00:41] <mgalas> any ideas???
[00:45] <TJ-> mgalas: Yes, I posted a bug-fix for it, let me look
[00:45] <miceiken> any way to check if my motherboard has usb 1.1 or 2.0 through cli?
[00:47] <zykotick9> sdz: ;) that wasn't the s/w fix i was hoping for - but can't argue with the results.  nice.
[00:48] <linuxuz3r_> hi how do i fix this http://i.imgur.com/j0vTV.jpg
[00:48] <linuxuz3r_> 2 menubar 2 taskbar
[00:48] <linuxuz3r_> i just want 1 menubar 1 taskbar
[00:49] <frooh> so... I just rebooted my computer and X11 won't start at all
[00:49] <frooh> I looked at the failsafe log and it complains that there are no monitors with good configs
[00:49] <frooh> last time this happened I reinstalled completely and it fixed it
[00:49] <frooh> is there something less hardcore I can do to fix it?
[00:49] <miceiken> how do i fix folder permissions for my suer
[00:49] <miceiken> user
[00:49] <doctari> join #backtrack-linux
[00:49] <Dr_willis> !permissions | miceiken
[00:50] <Dr_willis> miceiken,  give the channel details of whats wrong exactly. and they may know  a specific command/fix for you
[00:50] <frooh> I should reboot more than once every 3 months :/
[00:51] <frooh> I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the nvidia-current package
[00:51] <miceiken> what is drwxrwxr-x in octal? :p
[00:51] <frooh> also nvidia-current-updates
[00:51] <frooh> miceiken: don't use octal,  just use chmod u+rwx or w/e
[00:52] <miceiken> what does w/e consist of? :p
[00:52] <miceiken> 775
[00:55] <hualet> Yesterday , I installed kde with 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' , then i just find i don't like kde at all, so i uninstalled it with synaptic, but when i use command 'locate kubuntu', i still found some files, so i deleted them, but when i install some new software today , it always warn me that some 'kubuntu-...'files can't found, so what can i do now?
[00:56] <keith__> hualet, you could try installing kubuntu-desktop again
[00:56] <keith__> hualet, and then uninstall it again
[00:57] <hualet> oh, god...
[00:57] <keith__> hualet, some applications depend on KDE libraries, so you might have inadvertently deleted some of them
[00:57] <hualet> what's the problem?
[00:58] <hualet> then, do it again...?
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> hualet, if you are going to remove a desktop use this website playing around left column. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> make sure you are on the correct release as well when you use the list.
[00:59] <hualet> keith__, Couldn't I just install some package instead?
[01:00] <keith__> hualet, sure, but you could have deleted files that other programs are depending on that you already have installed
[01:01] <keith__> hualet, but yeah, you could just try reinstalling packages when things error
[01:02] <hualet> ok, but it's really a big project to install kubuntu-desktop again...
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> hualet, how did you remove the desktop in synaptic?
[01:03] <hualet> I just select the package install under the kubuntu-environment group
[01:03] <hualet> then, apply
[01:04] <luftikuss> '~$ ping 192.168.178.33; 7 packets transmitted, 7 received, 0% packet loss, time 5997ms. '~$ telnet 192.168.178.33; Trying 192.168.178.33...; telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused.' What should I do now?
[01:04] <keith__> hualet, you probably still have all of the packages downloaded in /var/cache/apt/archives
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> hualet, Not a good way to do it unless you know exactly what to do take a look at the link I gave you it has all the package's in lists for the desktops supported by ubuntu basically, although kubuntu has changed there.
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> as far as actual economic support
[01:05] <keith__> hualet, but I'm actually not sure if that will fix your problem, because I think the system thinks that a package is installed, but really some of its underlying files have been deleted by you
[01:06] <hualet> keith, no, do you know a tweak app named 'ubuntu-tweak'? i always use it after my updating or installing.
[01:06]  * frooh gives up and uninstalls X entirely
[01:06] <hualet> I think so, too
[01:08] <hualet> Are you sure it will works if I just do the install and uninstall again?
[01:12] <keith__> hualet, no, like I said... I'm actually not sure if that will fix your problem, because I think the system thinks that a package is installed, but really some of its underlying files have been deleted by you
[01:12] <keith__> you will probably have to "reinstall" certain packages that are broken
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> hualet, I would look at the desktop list at psychocats website and not peck around read what it says there in the playing around section. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[01:13] <hualet> Ok, i'll try
[01:14] <hualet> keith__ and wilee-nilee, thank you .
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> hualet, no problem, removing and installing whole desktops is rather easy once you know what to do and get the lists of what is installed.
[01:15] <frooh> wow
[01:15] <frooh> it looks like a lightdm issue
[01:15] <frooh> gdm starts up
[01:17] <keith__> hualet, no problem, good luck!
[01:17] <hualet> ok, i'm not familiar with IRC yet, and my English is not good, so , hope not bothered you that much...
[01:17] <hualet> thanks
[01:20] <fizyplankton> i booted with the nomodeset option to try to fix some monitor issues i was having, only to find out that it made it worse. i then removed the nomodeset option, and tried to boot only to find all hell break loose. i went into recovery mode, and i found out that it cant open /var/run/acpi.socket. however, if i boot from the previous kernal, it works fine. does anyone know how to either repair the acpi damage incurred by boo
[01:27] <corvaxia> [Q] What can I do to fix youtube videos? They either stutter or play at 10X normal speed. The effect is either Max Headroom or Poltergeist. Using Chrome with adobe-flashplugin && ubuntu-restricted-extras.
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> corvaxia, chrome has a built in flash.
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> not sure what is causing this though.
[01:32] <corvaxia> Is there anything I can poke a stick at to help narrow the problem down?
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> corvaxia, here is some info, http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=108086
[01:36] <Fluid_Mantis> Hi, I'm having a bit of trouble. Is there any way to make the backspace key navigate back in Chromium like it does in Chrome on Windows? I know it can be toggled on Firefox in about:config, but I prefer Chrome.
[01:36] <Fluid_Mantis> And also, there is a Chrome extension but it simply does not work.
[01:39] <ridor> hello
[01:39] <Fluid_Mantis> Hi, ridor.
[01:39] <ridor> i want in in my ubuntu 12.04 install gnome 2 is it possible ?
[01:40] <Fluid_Mantis> I too am waiting for any help. I'm new so I can't help...
[01:40] <MajorPopinfresh> You kidding me? I'm still trying to get the bloody OS installed!
[01:40] <ridor> what is your question if i can help you Fluid_Mantis
[01:40] <Fluid_Mantis> To quote...
[01:40] <Fluid_Mantis> Hi, I'm having a bit of trouble. Is there any way to make the backspace key navigate back in Chromium like it does in Chrome on Windows? I know it can be toggled on Firefox in about:config, but I prefer Chrome.
[01:41] <Fluid_Mantis> And also, there is a Chrome extension but it simply does not work.
[01:41] <Fluid_Mantis> Also, I notice since I last used Ubuntu (years ago) the close/minimise/maximise buttons are on the left of windows rather than the right.
[01:42] <ridor> go to #chromium-support Fluid_Mantis
[01:43] <Fluid_Mantis> Thank you.
[01:45] <MajorPopinfresh> I'm having some trouble getting my computer to boot from a USB stick. I've used the programs that the official website recommends to make it work, plugged it in to my computer, and have set USB HDD to top priority for booting. I can't find my boot menu, however, and the computer always bypasses the USB stick and simply runs Windows. Any help?
[01:47] <Fluid_Mantis> Who is the manufacturer of your computer, MajorPopinfresh, or did you build it?
[01:47] <MajorPopinfresh> It's a Samsung laptop.
[01:47] <Fluid_Mantis> I assume you've tried other USB ports, right?
[01:48] <MajorPopinfresh> I've tried all three on the machine.
[01:48] <Fluid_Mantis> I also have a Samsung laptop, but I can't comment since I haven't booted from USB with it.
[01:48] <Fluid_Mantis> Hmm.
[01:48] <fizyplankton> MajorPopinfresh: what version are you trying to install?
[01:48] <Fluid_Mantis> The best thing I can personally recommend is getting in touch with Samsung tomorrow.
[01:48] <viper474> how can you change the unity launcher command for an app?
[01:49] <MajorPopinfresh> I can say for sure that the USB stick its self works... I'm trying to install the latest. 12.04 I believe?
[01:50] <Fluid_Mantis> Often, in the BIOS, the devices themselves (including USB storage) will show in the boot priority settings.
[01:50] <Fluid_Mantis> Do you see your USB device appearing in it?
[01:50] <fizyplankton> MajorPopinfresh: if you are comfortable doing so, try removing the harddrive to force it to boot from the flash drive
[01:50] <MajorPopinfresh> I'm honestly not sure. It's got USB HDD, which is at the top... it's got...
[01:51] <Fluid_Mantis> I thought it was a USB stick though, which would be flash memory rather than a HDD. :P
[01:51] <MajorPopinfresh> Oh.
[01:51] <MajorPopinfresh> Well... let's see... USB FDD, USB CD, and USB HDD are all that show up.
[01:52] <Fluid_Mantis> USB FDD.
[01:52] <Fluid_Mantis> USB Flash Disk Drive?
[01:52] <Fluid_Mantis> Try it.
[01:52] <corvaxia> So this is probably a silly question. Which ultrabooks have the best driver support for ubuntu?
[01:52] <MajorPopinfresh> I just put that at the top. Gonna try it again. :/
[01:53] <djzn> trism: hi
[01:53] <bazhang> corvaxia, ones with intel
[01:53] <MajorPopinfresh> Nope. Still passing over.
[01:53] <viper474> found the answer to my question, thanks
[01:53] <Fluid_Mantis> I'd give Samsung a call then.
[01:53] <Fluid_Mantis> They're usually pretty helpful.
[01:54] <MajorPopinfresh> Right then. We've also got a guy coming on Sunday, if all else fails.
[01:54] <Fluid_Mantis> Good luck then.
[01:54] <Fluid_Mantis> I'm wondering if anybody knows how to move the close/minimise/maximise buttons on windows to the right?
[01:54] <trism> djzn: hello
[01:54] <Fluid_Mantis> I don't really like the OS X style Ubuntu comes with.
[01:55] <JACKCHEF> Hi I've just isntalled ubuntu,  and done it's updates after,  When trying to play nexuiz it wont fullscreen, the bar with my sound/wireless/mail/time at the top stays there and i wont get sound either,  anyone know why?
[01:55] <zykotick9> !controls | Fluid_Mantis
[01:55] <Fluid_Mantis> zykotick9, thanks, I'll check it out.
[01:56] <JACKCHEF> When fullscreening it unity stays ontop,
[01:57] <zykotick9> Fluid_Mantis: at one time (before i ditched google sites) !controls links to my lucidfs (google sites page) for instructions i got (from #ubuntu+1) when lucid was in beta ;)
[01:57] <djzn> trism: any luck on the cursor bug
[01:59] <JACKCHEF> please help, I cannot play full screen applications, unity stays at the top forcing everything to stay beneath the bar
[02:00] <Fluid_Mantis> zykotick9: Yeah, I can see the theme suggestions, still reading the page. But I think Ubuntu only comes with two themes.
[02:02] <trism> djzn: I'm pretty sure I know what is causing it, but I'm not sure the best way to fix it, gonna have to talk to the gtk devs
[02:03] <JACKCHEF> how do i make unity go away while playing a game
[02:03] <JACKCHEF> ????
[02:03] <djzn> trism: I did a test, ran a system fully as root... and i still got the problem.... so it isn't a permission issue
[02:04] <zykotick9> Fluid_Mantis: the amazing difference a : (or ;) can make in gconf-edit or dconf-edit ;)
[02:04] <zykotick9> Fluid_Mantis: i don't know the specifics anymore :(
[02:05] <Fluid_Mantis> Well, I know a semicolon is a continuation of a list. ;)
[02:06] <zykotick9> Fluid_Mantis: in this case, changes left to right ;)
[02:07] <Fluid_Mantis> I see now, in the terminal command. :P
[02:07] <Fluid_Mantis> I'll try it.
[02:08] <Fluid_Mantis> It worked. Thanks a lot.
[02:08] <Fluid_Mantis> :)
[02:09] <Vbitz> I'm going to install ubuntu on my HP dv6 laptop firstly should I wait for 12.10 and secondly are there any catchs to installing ubuntu on a hp dv6?
[02:10] <Fluid_Mantis> The only problem is that it's still left when maximised, but I can understand that since a lot of the "taskbar" is at the top-right.
[02:15] <Fluid_Mantis> Oh, one other thing. There is a mail icon at the top-right. It appears to be primarily for Thunderbird and also some kind of chat client. (Perhaps Jabber?) At any rate, I don't need it. Sorry for the newbie question, but how can I remove it/manage stuff at that part of the screen?
[02:16] <zykotick9> Fluid_Mantis: indicator-messages perhaps?  (i'm not sure!)
[02:16] <Jagst3r15> any way I can get the chromium in Quantal on 12.04?
[02:17] <bazhang> indicator-applet, indicator-applet-appmenu, indicator-applet-complete  <-- Fluid_Mantis got these installed? those seem to cover it
[02:17] <zykotick9> bazhang: that might be overkill
[02:17] <bazhang> !info chromium-browser  |Jagst3r15
[02:17] <bazhang> Jagst3r15, sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[02:18] <Jagst3r15> bazhang i think version 20+
[02:18] <Jagst3r15> is in quant
[02:18] <Jagst3r15> no way to get?
[02:18] <bazhang> Jagst3r15, then look for a PPA
[02:18] <Jagst3r15> ok thank you
[02:19] <JACKCHEF> I'm having a problem, I installed "myunity" and I noticed it made unity stay ontop of everything, so I uninstalled it rebooted, but the setting , coloring etc. remain in effect to my unity,  but the app "myunity" is gone, please help
[02:19] <bazhang> JACKCHEF, help undo the settings?
[02:20] <heiths> I just updated my 1and1 server… and I got this warning:   W: mdadm: the array /dev/md1 with UUID …..etc
[02:20] <heiths> anyone see this before?
[02:20] <Fluid_Mantis> bazhang, zykotick9, thanks, I'll take a look.
[02:21] <JACKCHEF> Yes I used "myunity" to make some changes to the way unity looks,  but when I went to play a game after, the unity side bar stays ontop, apps will not full screen and the top bar stays at the top with the time,
[02:21] <bazhang> JACKCHEF, so reinstall myunity and undo the settings made with it
[02:21] <JACKCHEF> I uninstalled "myunity" and rebooted, but the coloring and thing sI changed are still in effect, but "myunity" is not installed
[02:21] <JACKCHEF> yes ok
[02:22] <Fluid_Mantis> It could be the Ubuntu One Indicator Applet perhaps?
[02:22] <Fluid_Mantis> I might just remove Ubuntu One.
[02:23] <bazhang> Fluid_Mantis, it's indicator-applet
[02:23] <JACKCHEF> hmm
[02:23] <JACKCHEF> I cannot open applications, unity stays on the left,
[02:23] <JACKCHEF> thy open, but unity is there still
[02:24] <Fluid_Mantis> I'm new to the terminal, but do I use sudo apt-get remove?
[02:24] <Fluid_Mantis> That's to bazhang.
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, right click desktop go go the background changer 2nd tab has a panel hider click
[02:25] <bazhang> Fluid_Mantis, sure. thats the way to uninstall stuff
[02:25] <Fluid_Mantis> bazhang, but when I try it for indicator-applet, it tells me it's not installed.
[02:26] <JACKCHEF> I've already tried that, I can make unity bar on the left go away, which allows the app to use more of the screem but the bar at the top stays, forcing the app to make its own window with another bar beneath,
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, have you looked at the gnome shell, you can set up a hider for the top panel in it, little different desktop it is gnome 3
[02:27] <JACKCHEF> it shouldnt be this way tho,
[02:28] <JACKCHEF> I've used nexuiz many times , and ubuntu since 10.10
[02:29] <JACKCHEF> the app is not going full screem  minimize and x are only present in the corner of it,  the sound wont kick in without the fullscreen,
[02:29] <JACKCHEF> unity is being a bastard and staying ontop of everything pardon my french
[02:30] <JACKCHEF> i search one sec
[02:31] <JACKCHEF> im having a bug issue
[02:31] <bazhang> JACKCHEF, so file a bug
[02:31] <bazhang> !bugs | JACKCHEF
[02:31] <JACKCHEF> should I do  fresh install>?
[02:32] <JACKCHEF> or something: /
[02:33] <__OH__> hello all ,  Ubuntu12.04.1 64bit is now avialable to upgrade?
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, you can reset the unity desktop
[02:34] <JACKCHEF> i tried unity --replace
[02:34] <bazhang> __OH__, August 23rd or thereabouts
[02:35] <__OH__> bazhang, Thank you ;-)
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, it is unity --reset
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> alt f2 unity --reset jacjc
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, ^^^
[02:37] <JACKCHEF> yeaah,  still doesnt work right
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, try rebooting there are other commands as well
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> compiz is a bit finicky even if you did not use it exactly
[02:38] <JACKCHEF> cant I choose like repari option to install if its already installed?
[02:38] <JACKCHEF> I dont have compiz fusion manager installed,   its using some sort of compiz by default tho
[02:39] <JACKCHEF> I'm pretty familiar with compiz, even its experimental plugins,  I'd hate to reinstall and have this problem again tho.. cause ive never had it,
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, yes unity is a plugin in compiz.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/17610/how-do-i-reset-my-unity-configuration
[02:40] <arooni-mobile> i want everything that uses readline to use the vim bindings.  i already have set editing-mode vi; and set keymap vi  ...
[02:40] <arooni-mobile> ideas?
[02:41] <bazhang> arooni-mobile, asked in the vim channel?
[02:41] <arooni-mobile> yes
[02:41] <JACKCHEF> seems it hangs,   the terminal
[02:41] <JACKCHEF> any sort of unity command,  screen resets, looks as if it took effect, but terminal never returns to idle, just hangs
[02:42] <zykotick9> !schedule > __OH__
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, close the terminal and reboot it is probably fixed
[02:43] <JACKCHEF> whenever I close the terminal it says "There is still a process running in this terminal. Closing the terminal will kill it" and screen flash, appears as if it went back to previous settings, which.. look the same
[02:43] <JACKCHEF> because it was hanging, so I guess it did not complete
[02:45] <JACKCHEF> well see you in 40 mins after re install
[03:07] <zzt> I need some help. Java how to find the last "." location?
[03:08] <zzt> I want replace the string "abc.mp3" to "abc.lrc".
[03:10] <codemaniac> zzt are they on a text file ie the string you mentioned ?
[03:10] <zzt> in java, find the last "."? the function "indexOf()" is only find the string from left
[03:11] <zzt> codemaniac ! text file?
[03:11] <arivu> www.google.com
[03:11] <codemaniac> in java they are called method and not function
[03:11] <codemaniac> so what is the issue here
[03:13] <codemaniac> if you want to do text manipulation only over a file , then native unix utilities are best bet than java
[03:13] <codemaniac> eg awk ,sed
[03:14] <zzt> oh! thanks!
[03:14] <zzt> I write a function.
[03:15] <zzt> I am a chinese programer. Read English is slow
[03:16] <Nautilus> are there different distros of 12.04, like with LAMP, an IDE, Compass etc set up?  eg: a web dev box?
[03:18] <zzt> I'm in china, codemaniac where are you ?
[03:18] <JACKCHEF> installing (:
[03:19] <codemaniac> me in India zzt
[03:20] <jagginess> Nautilus, this is #ubuntu, if you need to know about other linuxes, you should check out wikipedia, they have lists of derivative linuxes..
[03:21] <codemaniac> jagginess: you can always customize the default live cd and put whatever programming tools you wish.
[03:21] <codemaniac> Nautilus:
[03:21] <jagginess> Nautilus is username in here. I was addressing him
[03:21] <jagginess> pff mwhaha
[03:21] <codemaniac> jagginess: sorry highlighted you mistakenly . :)
[03:21] <JACKCHEF> how can I dual boot operating systems from Usb, I can do one just fine, but when installing another it wont give me a grub menu,
[03:22] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, a usb is meant to be carried around, so you'll need to install grub to the beginning of the usb drive.
[03:23] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, you would have to use the bios boot menu (maybe it's f12 to call it up), so you can choose the usb drive as the first drive to boot instead of the default internal one
[03:23] <JACKCHEF> I've installed Ubuntu to usb and booted it fine,  thats not the issue
[03:23] <JACKCHEF> when installing multiple os on usb,  and booting usb, I dont get a grub menu for the OS' that are on the usb
[03:24] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, boot into your main OS you like (any linux that has grub2 package with it), and do update-grub2
[03:24] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, and you don't need to do grub-install
[03:24] <Nautilus> jagginess: no, i want to know about ubuntu, not alternate *nix's.  Just wondering if there was a pre-configured desktop install with things like LAMP, IDE, Compass (and other similar Web Dev tools) available.  Perhaps "distibution" is the wrong word, since thats used for things like Kubuntu
[03:24] <JACKCHEF> I cant
[03:25] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, if the menu doesnt show up.. then you have to do grub-install from the "same" linux you did update-grub2 on.
[03:25] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, depends which linux's grub.cfg you want to use.
[03:25] <JACKCHEF> how am I suppost to do that if it doesnt boot
[03:25] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, then do a rescue boot with a cd, and fix your main linux on usb..
[03:26] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, i assume you want to do a rescue prompt with ubuntu.. so fix your ubuntu usb boot (use a ubuntu install cd)
[03:26] <jagginess> !rescue
[03:26] <JACKCHEF> have no idea what your talking about,
[03:26] <jagginess> argh.. ubottu can be awful at times
[03:26] <JACKCHEF> not listening apparently
[03:26] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, you have ubuntu on your usb?
[03:27] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, is that an installer or an installed ubuntu?
[03:27] <JACKCHEF> Yes , and I dont care about it either,
[03:27] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, then stop trolling. That's how you fix it.
[03:27] <jagginess> now go fix it.
[03:27] <JACKCHEF> I can install ubuntu onto usb just fine,  But when I install another os onto the usb,  I do not get a choice to boot which os , i get nothing
[03:28] <JACKCHEF> im not trolling, perhaps stop blabbing things that have nothing to do with what im asking and I wont tell you im not interested in it, no need to take offense mate
[03:28] <jagginess> JACKCHEF, well ask anybody else. They'll say the same.. you issue update-grub2 and grub-install. You have to rtfm from here on to know what i'm talking about.. sorry.
[03:29]  * jagginess rests super-duper multipler Oses to the gods.
[03:29] <smithw> Hi, can you guys help with nvidia optimus/bumblebee problems? I tried asking in #bumblebee, but I think there's no one there right now. (I'm asking to ask just to make sure it's allowed here.)
[03:29] <Nautilus> jagginess: I want to know about ubuntu, not alternate *nix's.  Just wondering if there was a pre-configured desktop install with things like LAMP, IDE, Compass (and other similar Web Dev tools) available.  Perhaps "distibution" is the wrong word, since thats used for things like Kubuntu
[03:29] <TJ-> I've missed everything that has been said, but surely if installed "another OS" causes the problem, then the problem is with what "other OS" does to the USB's boot sector. Maybe it installs syslinux not GRUB?
[03:30] <JACKCHEF> I think you are right
[03:30] <JACKCHEF> after the second OS is on there I cant boot either so,
[03:30] <TJ-> Many ISO based installers use syslinux not GRUB
[03:30] <jagginess> Nautilus, you'll have to research on that, simply a google with "ubuntu based distro site:wikipedia.org" may show some relevance
[03:31] <Aquethys> Hi. I'm trying to install 12.04 wubi on my hp pavilion dv6. Last time I tried the wireless drivers were not present (wireless just showed disconnected). Is there any way to make sure they will be?
[03:31] <TJ-> JACKCHEF: I seem to recall there's a hidden key in the syslinux bootstrap you can press to get to a menu... I wrote that code!
[03:31] <TJ-> Let me go check, it was a while ago now
[03:31] <JACKCHEF> sneaky sneaky
[03:31] <InferiorHuman> TJ-, hello again. ;-)
[03:32] <TJ-> JACKCHEF: I'm not sure but I think it's one of Shift or Alt
[03:32] <Nautilus> jagginess: ok thanks, pretty much already did that.  Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way... get 12.04 installed then maybe theres something that sets up a dev environment?
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, How did you install ubuntu to the usb?
[03:32] <JACKCHEF> I installed it from disc to usb
[03:32] <JACKCHEF> partitioned beforehand
[03:33] <TJ-> "If the Shift or Alt keys are held down during boot, or the Caps or Scroll locks are set, SYSLINUX will display a LILO-style "boot:" prompt"
[03:33] <Aquethys> Hi. I'm trying to install 12.04 wubi on my hp pavilion dv6. Last time I tried the wireless drivers were not present (wireless just showed disconnected). Is there any way to make sure they will be?
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, ah good when you do that you want to use the something other option to point grub at the usb, this is an easy fix.
[03:33] <JACKCHEF> But I will read about  that TJ thanks.,
[03:33] <JACKCHEF> and thanks jagginess
[03:34] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: were they present during live boot?
[03:34] <jagginess> Aquethys, well you can try the live option if there is one with the latest ubuntu installer and see if that can connect your wifi or at least be able to scan WIFI AP with it..
[03:34] <TJ-> GRUB uses Shift too, so if that isn't getting you a boot menu something may have totally taken away the boot-strap in sector 0
[03:34] <Aquethys> what's the live option? can you please link me iff possible? is that wubi?
[03:34] <TJ-> InferiorHuman: Hi :)
[03:35] <JACKCHEF> Aquethys Im running ubuntu on a DV6 right now
[03:35] <Aquethys> Nice
[03:35] <Aquethys> When you installed
[03:35] <Aquethys> did it have wireless?
[03:35] <jagginess> Aquethys, i don't know if its on the wubi.. nobody here uses it..
[03:35] <Aquethys> Or did you have to manually get the drivers?
[03:35] <Aquethys> Oh
[03:35] <Aquethys> okay so how else do I install? via cd?
[03:35] <JACKCHEF> it didn't.  i went to, additional hardware and activated  a wireless driver
[03:36] <Aquethys> Oh
[03:36] <Aquethys> Are you running 12.04?
[03:36] <jagginess> anyone knows if the 12.04 cd still offers a live option? (Aquethy's)
[03:36] <JACKCHEF> if you plug into eithernet and do an update your problem could be solved aswell, that happened on my netbook
[03:36] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: FYI; wubi is for TESTING ubuntu.  It is NOT a permanent installation solution - so sayeth the wubi developers.
[03:36] <jagginess> Aquethys, I run 12.04 yes.. but i'm on another machine currently..
[03:36] <Aquethys> oh
[03:36] <Aquethys> Okay
[03:36] <Aquethys> So what's the real way to keep ubuntu
[03:37] <JACKCHEF> keep
[03:37] <JACKCHEF> ?
[03:37] <Aquethys> Ubuntu desktop?
[03:37] <jagginess> Aquethys, wubi is not a real "linux" because it exists as a single large file on the windows filesystem
[03:37] <cfhowlett> !dual boot|aquethys
[03:38] <Aquethys> where do I get the file?
[03:38] <jagginess> Aquethys, but you should still be able to check it out and try to get your wifi working with it while you get the hang of things..
[03:38] <zykotick9> !cookie | jagginess cfhowlett
[03:38] <jagginess> Aquethys, the real installer?
[03:38] <Aquethys> ya
[03:38] <jagginess> Aquethys, it's there on the main page somewhere
[03:38] <jagginess> !download
[03:38] <cfhowlett> jagginess: you've already downloaded the ubuntu iso...create a boot media (usb are GREAT for this), boot from the live media and install.
[03:39] <Aquethys> is it the desktop cd file?
[03:39] <Aquethys> http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[03:39] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: arrg.  create a boot media cdrom or USB, boot from that and install.  you've already got the iso.
[03:39] <jagginess> Aquethys, y
[03:39] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: yes.
[03:39] <Aquethys> and doesn't matter what version of windows I have, I can get 64 bit ubuntu?
[03:40] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: yes if your system supports 64 bit.
[03:40] <InferiorHuman> Aquethys, do you have a 64bit processor ?
[03:40] <jagginess> Aquethys, http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso (64bit)  or http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso  (32 bit)
[03:40] <Aquethys> Um i3?
[03:40] <InferiorHuman> Aquethys, yep
[03:40] <Aquethys> Okay
[03:40] <jagginess> Aquethys, amd64 is for intel64bit too
[03:40] <InferiorHuman> yep
[03:40] <Aquethys> Okay so
[03:40] <Aquethys> Save the image file or open with imgburn so I can burn it to cd?
[03:40] <jagginess> Aquethys, this one http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[03:41] <Aquethys> yup got it :D just on the download screen
[03:41] <Aquethys> gotta decide whether to open or save
[03:41] <InferiorHuman> save it then open with image burn. or use unetbootin to make a USB installer
[03:41] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: see unetbootin for windows to create a USB
[03:41] <Aquethys> okay
[03:41] <Aquethys> can I burn it to CD
[03:41] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: yes
[03:41] <jagginess> Aquethys, imgburn works well and is free on windows
[03:41] <Aquethys> So after I burn it with imgburn
[03:41] <Aquethys> Do I just reboot with disc in
[03:42] <jagginess> Aquethys, ya.. there's an button option to "burn image to cd" graphically, easy to use..
[03:42] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: follow the dual boot installation I sent you.
[03:42] <Aquethys> alright just waiitng for download to finish :)
[03:43] <InferiorHuman> Aquethys, when your computer reboots with cd in it check for the menu's to say press F10 for boot menu or something and then select cd-drive. or in bios in boot order make sure cd-rom drive is first.
[03:43] <Aquethys> I have the dv6...is this for all windows computers @inferior?
[03:44] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: it goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway; back up critical windows data before installing ubuntu.
[03:44] <Aquethys> Okay
[03:44] <Aquethys> um
[03:44] <JACKCHEF> okay my previous problem is gone but im afraid an update will bring it back
[03:44] <Aquethys> I don't have a external hard drive available
[03:44] <JACKCHEF> aquethys Im on a DV6
[03:44] <Aquethys> Yup :P
[03:44] <JACKCHEF> f9 should bring a choice between all available bootable media
[03:44] <Aquethys> okay
[03:44] <Aquethys> when it's at the hp screen?
[03:45] <JACKCHEF> the starting flash with the options yes
[03:45] <Aquethys> okay
[03:45] <Aquethys> how do I backup all critical windows data without an external hard drive? I don't have one of those :(
[03:45] <Aquethys> and on windows 8 developer preview
[03:45] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: usb ...
[03:45] <InferiorHuman> Aquethys, do you have a second HD in that machine ?
[03:45] <viralfrost> cloud services maybe?
[03:45] <JACKCHEF> right now my windows have there minimize and maximize options at the top of their windows,  but after updating lastime those options were transfered to the unity bar at the top,
[03:46] <JACKCHEF> i dont want it so
[03:46] <viralfrost> dropbox, box, ubuntu one...etc
[03:46] <Aquethys> second HD? I've got C drive, Recovery drive (D), HP_Tools (E)
[03:46] <Aquethys> and I only have 5GB on my dropbox
[03:47] <viralfrost> you can always resize your windows partition, then do whatever you need to on the second partition..ie: install ubuntu, reinstall windows..whatever
[03:47] <warmit> hi,need help. I used 'git reset --hard HEAD^^'  on my working tree, does that mean the recently commited 2 commits are gone totally?
[03:48] <Aquethys> hm okay how do I resize and see how much space I need to dedicate to a second partition?
[03:48] <viralfrost> then when its installed, move all your stuff from the windows partition to your new one, and delete the old partition that had your data on, and resize the one that you just made
[03:48] <JACKCHEF> when installing ubuntu alongside it will resize it for you you can choose the size by sliding an allocation bar
[03:48] <JACKCHEF> ^^^
[03:48] <Aquethys> @jackchef you mean when I boot the CD?
[03:48] <TJ-> warmit: Yes
[03:49] <TJ-> warmit: *unless* those commits still exist in another branch, or you can recall their commit IDs since they'll be hanging commits with no references right now
[03:49] <JACKCHEF> @Aquethys,  If your only installed os, is windows, and your installing Ubuntu, if will detect this, you can choose the "install along side windows " option , There will be a slider bar choosing how much space to dedicate to your windows and how much for ubuntu ,
[03:49] <cfhowlett> Aquethys: also, it helps to defrag your windows before you repartition.
[03:49] <JACKCHEF> it will*
[03:50] <Aquethys> okay
[03:50] <Aquethys> great
[03:50] <Aquethys> Still have to backup though right?
[03:50] <jagginess> ya
[03:50] <viralfrost> aquethys - and don't interrupt it..otherwise itll mess up your data...
[03:50] <JACKCHEF> you dont .. "have to "   but you can
[03:50] <jagginess> Aquethys, you have to.
[03:50] <Aquethys> ^
[03:50] <Aquethys> Ya
[03:50] <jagginess> Aquethys, to be 100% sure.
[03:50] <Aquethys> I need to...can't risk it
[03:50] <jagginess> yup
[03:50] <Aquethys> Um
[03:50] <Aquethys> I only have
[03:50] <Aquethys> a like
[03:50] <FloodBot1> Aquethys: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:51] <cfhowlett> ...um , floodbot What the heck?
[03:51] <jagginess> i think he has a windows virus too
[03:51] <JACKCHEF> your entire HDD could be dedicated to windows, but during ubuntu installation you can choose exactly how much space you want each OS to have access to on ur HDD,
[03:51] <warmit> TJ-: yes, before i reset, i started a new branch to reset, but when i checkout the other commit, it flys back to the same commit i reset to .
[03:51] <TJ-> Aquethys: please write your messages on one line
[03:51] <cfhowlett> jagginess: would a windows virus effect irc?
[03:51]  * jagginess thinks Aquethys may have got the irc burp bot
[03:52] <TJ-> warmit: can you go back through your scroll buffer and spot the commit IDs ?
[03:52] <warmit> TJ-: yes ,there is
[03:53] <TJ-> warmit:  one other way you might be able to find the commit IDs is to do "ls -ltr .git/objects/" and then the same in the most recent sub-directories of that one to spot the IDs
[03:53] <JACKCHEF> Aquethys: choose install along side windows, and no prior partitioning will be needed,  just choose how much space to dedicate to windows and linux with the slider bar presented,    thats all
[03:53] <JACKCHEF> allocation bar*
[03:53] <TJ-> warmit: If you have the commit IDs you can cherry-pick them
[03:53] <warmit> TJ-: i am now on that branch,but things are not looking like i needed.
[03:53] <somsip> Grub problem - I have kernel 3.2.0-29 installed, and update-grub confirms this is recognised when it's run, but only 3.2.0-26 shows in Grub menu. Any ideas why this is?
[03:54] <TJ-> sompsip "Previous operating systems" ?
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> JACKCHEF, generally it is advised to resize windows with its virtual partitioner with windows 7 at least, and to malke sure it boots fine after the auto chkdsk.
[03:54] <viralfrost> aquethys - I've installed linux many times and partitioned with gparted, resizing my partition with windows on it, and installing linux on a new one...never had any problem with data loss or anything
[03:54] <jagginess> viralfrost, ya but you're not new to this.. :)
[03:54] <somsip> TJ-: I do have grub on a secondary HD recognised by bootinfoscript, but I'm not clear on how to correct this.
[03:55] <JACKCHEF> yeah , I partition everything before installations,
[03:55] <cfhowlett> JACKCHEF: I'm inclined to agree with that method.
[03:56] <TJ-> somsip: maybe the boot device order in BIOS is picking that secondary drive to boot from?
[03:57] <viralfrost> somsip - try update-initramfs and update-grub2 ?
[03:57] <somsip> It's something I can check next time I reboot. The drive was only reattached a short time ago which is when I noticed kernel updates were not getting through
[03:58] <TJ-> somsip that'll be it then
[03:58] <somsip> viralfrost: update-grub2 does find the images for -29, but I guess that update-grub was doing the same thing. I'll check on next boot
[03:58] <somsip> TJ-: Ok - I'll dig in the BIOS. Cheers
[03:58] <jagginess> somsip, duh. update-grub is not for grub2.
[03:59] <viralfrost> :)
[03:59] <hwkiller-netbook> update-grub is for grub2, iirc
[03:59] <hwkiller-netbook> that's what I use, and I use grub2
[03:59] <zykotick9> actually "update-grub" and "update-grub2" are the same
[03:59] <somsip> jagginess: actually update-grub2 is a symlilnk to update-grub
[03:59] <jagginess> can be.. but traditionally weren't.
[03:59] <jagginess> you just use update-grub2
[04:00] <zykotick9> jagginess: always.  grub1 aka grub-legacy didn't have the "update" feature
[04:00] <viralfrost> somsip - try using grub-customizer
[04:01] <jagginess> well if i use multiple distros (wait a minute i do), I'm so stubborn I will always use update-grub2 :)
[04:02] <somsip> viralfrost: thankd for the idea, but grub has always updated automatically so if that's stopped it sugegst something else is wrong. Another MBR having grub seems to make sense given what I found on the web before asking
[04:02] <zykotick9> jagginess: good for you.  pointless, save yourself a keystroke every time ;)
[04:24] <__OH__> hello all, how long it take to install Ubuntu restricted extras from Ubuntu Software Center?
[04:24] <`4fun`> hey guys, i portforwarded port 113 for irc identd to my ubuntu server but it still acts as if its not enabled
[04:24] <`4fun`> is there something i need to install to enable identd on ubuntu server?
[04:24] <cfhowlett> __OH__: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:24] <__OH__> It take about 15 minutes for me now and still apply....
[04:24] <exothermc> Is there a nice interface to manage storage and file systems?  Something like openfiler, but using Ubuntu?  I don't need the permissions things just the RAID, FS etc?
[04:25] <jagginess> `4fun`, modern clients can simulate or there are router boxes that simulate it sometimes..
[04:25] <jagginess> `4fun`, it's an old relic that isn't very necessary..
[04:25] <`4fun`> jagginess, what isnt necessary?
[04:25] <jagginess> `4fun`, it's possible your router box is not allowing to port forward 113
[04:26] <`4fun`> jagginess, its the port is forwarded to my ubuntu server already
[04:27] <jagginess> `4fun`, the box may say its configured it's doing port forward to 113, but it may not be doing it because it's already doing some kind of identd on it's own
[04:27] <__OH__> cfhowlett, how do i stop install  process Ubuntu restricted extras from Ubuntu Software Center, it's seem not work from there?
[04:27] <jagginess> `4fun`, identd is basically something of a relic
[04:28] <`4fun`> jagginess, the router does nothing but forward port 113.. there isnt anything else invloved, atleast i think so.. and i didnt do anything to my ubuntu server about identd
[04:28] <`4fun`> so i dont know if its handling anything by default on its own.. thats why im asking here
[04:29] <`4fun`> obviously the port is not forwarded to any other machine from the router
[04:29] <jagginess> `4fun`, you should ask on #freenode what you're after about irc's..
[04:29] <`4fun`> umm its not about irc
[04:29] <`4fun`> its about ubuntu acting as if port 113 doesnt exist...
[04:29] <jagginess> `4fun`, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identd identd is dead :/
[04:30] <`4fun`> its not on IRC dude
[04:30] <jagginess> `4fun`, they would know about identd
[04:30] <jagginess> irc or not
[04:30] <`4fun`> huh?
[04:30] <`4fun`> who would know?
[04:30] <jagginess> #freenode
[04:31] <`4fun`> well, lets ignore IRC for a second jagginess, why is ubuntu server not seeing port 113? does it need a certain package to install or some kind of service?
[04:32] <jagginess> `4fun`, sounds like you're setting up a server that does ident checking
[04:33] <jagginess> `4fun`, to understand what can simulate an ident response, you can ask on #freenode
[04:33] <jagginess> `4fun`, sounds like you're setting up an irc server
[04:33] <`4fun`> no man
[04:33] <`4fun`> im not
[04:33] <`4fun`> and thanks for trying dude
[04:33] <__OH__> There is problem with Ubuntu Software center, in process applying changes not been complete and take so long, I need to stop thier process, how to do?
[04:35] <jagginess> `4fun`, port 113 is identd. You'll have to know about it. :) (read online)
[04:35] <TJ-> `4fun`: You need to install an identd on the server. I use oidentd with its proxying enabled
[04:36] <`4fun`> TJ-, aah so i do need an identd server.. thanks dude
[04:36] <jagginess> lol
[04:36] <TJ-> `4fun`: E.g. I have oidentd on my Internet server which proxies for my VPN tunnel that leads back to my premises. On my laptop I run oidentd too, configured to expect proxy requests from the Server. So when an ident request comes in, the Internet server sends it to my laptop
[04:36] <jagginess> irrelevant if his router box already simulates an identd response.
[04:36] <jagginess> but good luck..
[04:37] <gnomefreak> thanks for ketting me test it
[04:38] <gnomefreak> ketting ==  letting
[04:38] <WhiteRook> can anyone help with advice on how to load ubuntu to an AMD64 Windows 7 system with unalocated space on the drive?
[04:38] <`4fun`> jagginess, installing oidentd fixed the issue.. now port 113 is Open and IRC sees it as enabled..
[04:39] <`4fun`> im still not getting what youre on about the router simulating an identd response
[04:39] <`4fun`> its just forwarding a 'port'
[04:39] <jagginess> `4fun`, and the people at #freenode would know too :) lol.. whatever you're trying to do
[04:39] <jagginess> `4fun`, identd is sort of dead, but tends to stick around with irc stuff
[04:39] <TJ-> `4fun`: some gateway routers will answer ident requests with a simulated user name
[04:39] <jagginess> TJ- yeahyeah i told him already like 2-3 times..
[04:39] <jagginess> :)
[04:40] <`4fun`> TJ-, yeah, ok, that makes sense
[04:40] <`4fun`> jagginess, thats not what you said, you were talking as if my router is actually doing that and it doesnt
[04:40] <`4fun`> TJ- just explained it better
[04:40] <`4fun`> but problem solved
[04:40] <jagginess> lol well ok
[04:40] <Criv> ezit
[04:41] <jagginess> that's why i mentioned the dudes who would know it best (#freenode)
[04:41] <`4fun`> thanks to both of you
[04:41] <jagginess> cuse ya weren't getting it..
[04:41]  * WhiteRook requesting private chat for help loading ubuntu in dual boot mode with windows 7 using wubi if possible
[04:42] <gnomefreak> WhiteRook: please keep your requests, problem in the channle insteasd of private chat
[04:43] <WhiteRook> gnomefreak - ok thanks, should i explain my setup and situation in channel?
[04:44] <gnomefreak> WhiteRook: yes than wait for someone to respond
[04:44] <cviebrock> any known issues with fail2ban on 12.04 ?
[04:45] <JACKCHEF> I keep having this problem, when launching nexuiz, or a game, unity stays at the side, i can make the unity bar dissapear but the bar at the top with the time and such stays, making the application have its own borders too
[04:46] <raymond_> JACKCHEF, odd, even in fullscreen mode?
[04:46] <JACKCHEF> It wont full screen,  it takes the entire screen except for where the unity launcher and the top bar is
[04:46] <JACKCHEF> \I set it to large as possible in nexuiz options
[04:47] <JACKCHEF> 2nd fresh install,
[04:47] <raymond_> JACKCHEF, I like nexuiz.. maybe I'll give it a try on my system.
[04:47] <raymond_> what's your video card?
[04:47] <JACKCHEF> intel 965 chpset or soemthing, old
[04:47] <WhiteRook> I am running windows 7 on a laptop and have re-partitioned my primary hdd for 12 gigs of unalocated space for the ubuntu install (i am currently running ubuntu in a virtual machine) - i would like to install to the new partition for multiboot (unallocated space) but have no way to backup my current OS and related files, thus am hesitant to modify the bootloader - what is the best option to be able to dual boot with windows 7 without an available backup of th
[04:47] <WhiteRook> e current disk?
[04:48] <raymond_> JACKCHEF, ok and are you running the one from the software center?
[04:48] <JACKCHEF> yep
[04:48] <raymond_> ok
[04:48] <JACKCHEF> maybe I should get it elsewhere,
[04:48] <raymond_> I'll download it and check it out.
[04:48] <fego> WhiteRook: before anything you touch a backup is all doctor orders
[04:49] <fego> you can install ubuntu in the unallocated space
[04:49] <JACKCHEF> yeah 880 mb later
[04:49] <fego> you will need to have a swap too
[04:50]  * gnomefreak has 2 hard drves un ny bix ti nae installing Ubuntu
[04:50] <JACKCHEF> *cries* I love nexuiz
[04:51] <gnomefreak> damn i cant type
[04:51]  * gnomefreak goes to look it up
[04:51] <somsip> Grub2 problem - current kernel installed is 3.2.0-29 but grub menu only shows 3.2.0-26. sudo update-grub2 finds the images but does not change the menu. Have reinstalled linux-image-generic and linux-headers-generic which completer fine but still don't show. Grub is only installed on one MBR. Any ideas?
[04:51] <WhiteRook> can wibu install to a new partition using the windows bootloader?
[04:51] <WhiteRook> as opposed to installing on the windows partition
[04:51] <past> I am super new to linux and i have a .zip file that i want to install; not sure how...help!
[04:52] <JACKCHEF> haha
[04:52] <JACKCHEF> past: you should be able to just open it with file archiver and unzip like you would any other os
[04:52] <raymond_> past, a .zip file?  What's in it?
[04:52] <cfhowlett> past: should open by clicking on it.
[04:52] <fego> you can always do a wubi install , but it wont be a native linux ixntall WhiteRook
[04:52] <decci> Hi
[04:52] <r0sh> Guys, brightness control of laptop not working anymore after upgrade.. New kernel version is 3.2.0-29 and the acpi_backlight=vendor parameter is not working anymore.. :(
[04:52] <cfhowlett> decci: greetings
[04:53] <decci> cfhowlett: I recently installed ubuntu server, and opted for encrytion when install.  now i am annoyed with constantly having to enter the password in order for it to boot, as i want to host this server, and wont be able to enter the password.  I am looking for someone who can help me remove it
[04:53] <raymond_> past: like is it a program or just files?
[04:53] <fego> just create your root , swap partitions before hand with gparted
[04:53] <WhiteRook> what is a reasonable swap partition size?
[04:53] <cfhowlett> decci: remove the encryption?
[04:53] <past> hmm i tried and file archiver said it couldnt open let me give it another shot
[04:53] <fego> and then start the installer
[04:53] <decci> cfhowlett: How shall I disable entering password every while and then?
[04:54] <decci> cfhowlett: i am annoyed with constantly having to enter the password in order for it to boot
[04:54] <JACKCHEF> stupid unity never did this to me before
[04:54] <decci> cfhowlett: How to get rid of that?
[04:54] <fego> you will be asked to provide the root you want to install ubuntu
[04:54] <gnomefreak> WhiteRook: depends on how much memoy
[04:54] <raymond_> JACKCHEF, ok.. here goes
[04:54] <JACKCHEF> woOoo
[04:54] <cfhowlett> decci: understood...but my experience with such is limited.  stay in channel and ask again.
[04:54] <cfhowlett> !patience|decci:
[04:54] <r0sh> any solution?
[04:55] <decci> ubottu: okie
[04:55] <raymond_> JACKCHEF, works for me..
[04:55] <JACKCHEF> damnit
[04:55] <raymond_> all I had to do was go to settings, then under video hit full screen, then apply
[04:55] <fego> past: is it a source tar ball ? ie with .tat.[b]gz
[04:55] <raymond_> when it installs it defaults to window mode
[04:55] <fego> .tar.gz like extn
[04:56] <JACKCHEF> thank you raymond
[04:56] <JACKCHEF> I am blind but now I see
[04:56] <raymond_> JACKCHEF, np.
[04:56] <WhiteRook> I have about 15 gigs I can dedicate to linux, also will the BIOS recognize the ubuntu install prompting me for my preferred OS - is there any way to accomplish this
[04:56] <JACKCHEF> damnit, little option was unticked
[04:56] <WACOMalt> This may be a little out of this chat's realm, but I am running Ubuntu 12 on a VM in virtualbox. Would anyone know why my internet dies in the VM after about 5 minutes every time? or how I could check the cause?
[04:56] <fego> past: you can have all the pieces of software you want in software center , no nedd of source install
[04:56] <JACKCHEF> i had reset, replaced, unity and a whole bunch of things lol
[04:56] <JACKCHEF> i was ready for gnome or kde
[04:57] <JACKCHEF> hahhah
[04:57] <raymond_> WACOMalt, are you on wireless?
[04:57] <WACOMalt> raymond_, nope, wired
[04:57] <JACKCHEF> im going to tackle arch linux
[04:58] <WhiteRook> WACOmalt - I am on wireless and using VM virtualbox and having no issues, although I enabled a second network adapter in the VM settings to bridge the wifi to behave like ehternet
[04:58] <raymond_> WACOMalt, what kind of virtual network do you have?
[04:58] <bazhang> !ot | JACKCHEF
[04:59] <WACOMalt> raymond_, it's set to NAT right now
[04:59] <WACOMalt> the default for virtualbox
[04:59] <marahin> Harro! Anynyan can help me with setting up first Virtual Server on Ubuntu Server?
[04:59] <JACKCHEF> i said one thing settle down
[04:59] <marahin> Do i have to install an app for that, or is it icluded?
[04:59] <bazhang> JACKCHEF, chat is not here. #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[05:00]  * gnomefreak going read i hope
[05:00] <WhiteRook> Question regarding 32 bit vs 64 - should 64 perform better on AMD64 bit arch?
[05:01] <bazhang> WhiteRook, if you hace 64bit machine use the 64bit OS
[05:02] <smithw> I'm getting a very strange error. After the last reboot, the keyboard does not work anymore. All I can gather is that the X server is receiving a unending stream of "return" keystrokes. The keyboard works fine on grub, windows and a live usb. I have no idea what can I do troubleshoot this. Can anyone help?
[05:03] <raymond_> WACOMalt, are you on a router?
[05:03] <cfhowlett> smithw: quick answer; change keyboards?
[05:03] <WACOMalt> raymond_, yes
[05:03] <WACOMalt> a Belkin Vision N1
[05:03] <raymond_> WACOMalt, try switching it to bridged
[05:03] <WhiteRook> finally, i dont have access to a live or install CD or other removable media - i am installing from a virtual drive (PowerISO) - is there any way to install in this way to a new partition or am i out of luck
[05:03] <WACOMalt> the router or the virtual adaptor?
[05:04] <raymond_> WACOMalt, granted, it should work under NAT.. but.. just in case.. the virtual adapter
[05:04] <WACOMalt> ok, trying in bridged
[05:04] <smithw> cfhowlett, it's a notebook. and I don't see how could I change the keyboard driver and/or layout with the return being pressed repeateadly
[05:04] <WACOMalt> Looks like a lot of people have this issue
[05:04] <WACOMalt> according to this: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=29884
[05:04] <WhiteRook> WACO - bridged solved this problem for me
[05:04] <cfhowlett> smithw: for grins and giggles can you plug in a usb keyboard to test that error you're getting?
[05:05] <raymond_> WACOMalt, bridged is kind of cool because your VM gets it's own IP address on your network.  Helps if you ever want to run a server on it or something.
[05:05] <WACOMalt> ah cool
[05:05] <WACOMalt> yeah I'll need that soon anyways, thanks
[05:05] <raymond_> with NAT it's stuck behind your host.
[05:05] <WACOMalt> ah
[05:05] <WACOMalt> nope now I dont have internet at all
[05:05] <WACOMalt> :/
[05:05] <raymond_> weird weird weird.... do you have a MAC filter on your router?
[05:06] <WACOMalt> I dont
[05:06] <WACOMalt> in fact its wide open
[05:06] <smithw> cfhowlett, I'll have to find one first, though I don't think I'll be able to type anything with the returns. I'll go get it and try anyway, one sec
[05:06] <decci> cfhowlett: Will this help https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+question/48636?
[05:06] <WACOMalt> (Im in the middle of nowhere so its never an issue
[05:06] <raymond_> WACOMalt, which version are you running?
[05:06] <WACOMalt> newest VB
[05:07] <WACOMalt> not sure on ubuntu since I cant update it
[05:07] <WACOMalt> (where is the version # anyways?)
[05:08] <raymond_> usually under about.
[05:08] <WACOMalt> it appears to be using eth1, but I feel like that should be eth0
[05:08] <WACOMalt> I dont know where "about" is
[05:08] <raymond_> WACOMalt,  you mean under the VM's settings?
[05:08] <WACOMalt> no I mean inside of ubuntu
[05:09] <WhiteRook> WACOMalt - go to settings, then details
[05:09] <smithw> cfhowlett, no, the external keyboard doesn't work either, its input is completely ignored
[05:09] <WACOMalt> 12.04LTS
[05:09] <WhiteRook> 12.04 LTS is the current LTS
[05:10] <WACOMalt> is there a way to "factory reset" the networking settings?
[05:10] <WACOMalt> I feel like maybe I messed something up in there on ubuntu
[05:10] <WhiteRook> WACOMalt, would you like a screenshot on my virtualbox network settings which work?
[05:10] <WACOMalt> yes please :)
[05:10] <cfhowlett> smithw: if you're absolutely certain that there is NOT a stuck or dirty key or something, I'd suggest see if you can disable that particular key sequence with keyboard settings.  Set it to null input - *TEMPORARILY*
[05:10] <WACOMalt> hmm I have internet now after removing and making a new connection
[05:11] <WACOMalt> in the connection settings
[05:11] <WACOMalt> in bridged.. so we'll see if it stays alive
[05:11] <WACOMalt> wtf
[05:11] <WACOMalt> I can connect to google.com
[05:11] <BobJonkman> Hi: Who should I contact to get Software Freedom Day entered as a Global Event on the LoCo Events, similar to last year? http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/1258/detail/
[05:11] <WACOMalt> but I cant download updates
[05:12] <WACOMalt> I get a 404 not found on all updates
[05:12] <decci> I recently installed ubuntu server, and opted for encrytion when install.  now i am annoyed with constantly having to enter the password in order for it to boot, as i want to host this server, and wont be able to enter the password.  I am looking for someone who can help me remove it.
[05:12] <smithw> cfhowlett, yeah, I'm absolutely certain. I can use the keyboard normally on grub, windows and the live stick. I don't know how I can do that via files only (since the only way I have of changing settings on the machine is by booting on the live stick)
[05:12] <decci> Will https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+question/48636 help?
[05:12] <marahin> Guys. How can I create Vserver on Ubuntu Server?
[05:13] <cfhowlett> smithw: I admit defeat.  sorry.  stay in channel and ask.
[05:13] <cfhowlett> !patience|smithw:
[05:14] <smithw> ok :(
[05:14] <smithw> thanks anyway
[05:14] <jagginess> BobJonkman, there's a locoteamhowto link from this page http://loco.ubuntu.com/about-loco/
[05:14] <WACOMalt> Anyone know why update manager would fail to download everything, but yet my internet connection is working fine?
[05:15] <WACOMalt> http://pastie.org/4542470 this is the output of the update manager when it fails
[05:15] <BobJonkman> Thanx, jagginess, I'll follow up on that
[05:16] <decci> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1941515
[05:16] <bazhang> decci, dont ask every five seconds
[05:16] <smithw> well... it's simply ignoring the keyboard completely on the login screen. the endless returns only start if I activate the onscreen keyboard and login with that
[05:17] <smithw> after the login, endless returns. before, ignoring the keystrokes, even ctrl+alt+f1 to try and go to tty
[05:18] <decci> bazhang: Isnt ther any solution?
[05:18] <bazhang> decci, patience. asking more often does not get a quicker answer
[05:18] <raymond_> WACOMalt, maybe you have some antivirus software on the host that's freaking out?
[05:19] <WACOMalt> I dont use antivirus software at all
[05:19] <WACOMalt> for that reason :)
[05:20] <raymond_> I'm stumped.  So.. you can visit websites and everything?
[05:20] <aeon-ltd> decci: is there a reason why it needs to be turned off and on again frequently enough for this to be necessary?
[05:20] <Tervingi> ms
[05:21] <decci> aeon-ltd: My Application needs frequent rebooting and this is where I am getting stuck
[05:21] <smithw> if I login with a guest session, there's no endless returns, but no keyboard either
[05:21] <WACOMalt> hmm it seems I had to switch to "Main server" software source, rather than "USA server"
[05:21] <Corey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ <-- That throwing an error for anyone else?
[05:21] <WACOMalt> or at least that kicked it into working... so it seems
[05:21] <WACOMalt> "You triggered the wiki's surge protection by doing too many requests in a short time."
[05:21] <Corey> WACOMalt: Okay, filtering problem.
[05:22] <Corey> Thanks. :-)
[05:22] <WACOMalt> woot yeah we're downloading fine now
[05:22] <raymond_> can someone help me with trying to integrate a web app I'm making with unity?  (or am I asking on the wrong channel?)
[05:22] <WACOMalt> bai folks
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> Corey, hehe just happened to me .
[05:24] <Corey> wilee-nilee: Yeah, the four pages I've hit in half an hour weren't enough to explain that.
[05:32] <somsip> Seems like I have a grub problem. Attempted to purge/reinstall and got "debconf: warning: possible database corruption. Will attempt to repair by adding back missing question grub-pc" on purge, and on reinstall get "dpkg: error processing grub-pc - subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 10". Help please :-(
[05:32] <decci> Will this http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/5017/ssh-to-decrypt-encrypted-lvm-during-headless-server-boot work for me?
[05:33] <Symmetria> hrm, lo all
[05:33] <smithw> cfhowlett, just to let you I solved it. I made the wrong assumption that modifying the nvidia-current.conf file on xord.conf.d wouldn't affect my normal Xorg since it's using the integrated graphics, and set AutoAddDevices to false. changed that and the keyboard is back. (the endless returns are probably a side effect of typing my password with the onscreen keyboard, I guess the last stroke - return - never sends a 'key up' event because of the login proces
[05:33] <smithw> s it starts)
[05:34] <Symmetria> trying to install a bunch of .deb packages from hp which they claim are or ubuntu, but get this every time:
[05:34] <Symmetria> Unpacking replacement cpqacuxe ...
[05:34] <Symmetria> set: Variable name must begin with a letter.
[05:34] <Symmetria> anyone got any ideas?
[05:34] <__OH__> ttf-mscorefonts-installer problem seem can't download .exe files from http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/
[05:35] <cfhowlett> smithw: congrats.  also, consider doing a write up of the issue for the forums.  cuz you know SOMEONE out there is thinking the exact same way you did.
[05:36] <smithw> cfhowlett, which issue? my confusion on the role played by the files on xorg.conf.d or the key up that the X server never receives? or both?
[05:36] <Tervingi> why are you using source forge for the core fonts?
[05:38] <__OH__> Teringi, I am install Ubuntu restricted extras on Ubuntu Software center, it's include by defualt whe install it
[05:38] <cfhowlett> smithw: hmm.  both but maybe crosslink in the text?
[05:38] <__OH__> and seem there has a problem
[05:39] <__OH__> and i has been re-install Ubuntu 12.04 4 times now because met same problem
[05:39] <n1ckn4me09876543> does anybody know how I can convert .wtv video file in linux?
[05:40] <cfhowlett> __OH__: ubuntu-restricted-extras are not included by default; but why would this cause reinstallation?
[05:40] <Tervingi> I don't understand it going to sourceforge.  That is not a repository.
[05:40] <Tervingi> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[05:40] <cfhowlett> n1ck
[05:44] <Tervingi> cfhowlett:
[05:44] <Tervingi> http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/m/msttcorefonts/ttf-mscorefonts-installer_3.4+nmu1_all.deb
[05:44] <Tervingi> ;)
[05:45] <cfhowlett> Tervingi: thanks but I think __oh__ had the issue.  my restricted-extras installed as smooth as a baby's behind.
[05:47] <__OH__> cfhowlett,  i don't knew why it does happen with me, I am use 64 bit and i am downoad file from Terving link, it's seem work and after sudo apt-get upgrade, they  now  again... ttf-mscorefonts-installer: downloading http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/andale32.exe
[05:48] <__OH__> how to remove ttf-mscorefonts-installer: downloading http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/andale32.exe, from a process?
[05:48] <Symmetria> urgh, so, like, a package install went wrong, and now every time I try and install a package, it get a message about the original package needing to be reinstalled, and dpkg refuses to get rid of the one thats breaking it
[05:49] <Symmetria> so eery time I try install anything now I get E: The package cpqacuxe needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[05:50] <Tervingi> $ cat /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[05:50] <Tervingi> DISABLED_MODULES="ttf-mscorefonts-installer"
[05:50] <Tervingi> That was for you __OH_______-
[05:51] <Tervingi> You could also define an ip for source forge server
[05:51] <Tervingi> Perhaps you have a DNS issue
[05:51] <__OH__> cat: /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common: No such file or directory
[05:53] <__OH__> So, difficult for me now it's act to me again: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:53] <__OH__> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:53] <__OH__> How to resolve it?
[05:54] <__OH__> How to kill that process?
[05:55] <Tervingi> fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[05:55] <Tervingi> and then kill it
[05:58] <__OH__> Tervingi, fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock, and then how to kill it?
[06:01] <Tervingi> so, is this machine critical or do you just want that process dead?
[06:04] <linuxuz3r> what is the font of activities in default theme of gnome-shell ubuntu
[06:05] <Tervingi> yeah, i'm kind of not an expert, so maybe don't try that fuser command.
[06:05] <Tervingi> I pulled off an instant shutdown trying to kill a text file.
[06:06] <__OH__> I wanna stop E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:06] <__OH__> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:07] <__OH__> this problem is always act to me
[06:07] <Tervingi> act to you?
[06:07] <__OH__> I am show
[06:08] <__OH__> I mean it's always show up
[06:08] <Tervingi> ok, so perhaps this one is safe
[06:08] <Tervingi> "Safety not gauranteed"
[06:08] <Tervingi> $ sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock; sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:09] <__OH__> Tervingi, /var/lib/dpkg/lock:  root       3006 F.... dpkg
[06:09] <Tervingi> try to install as normal.
[06:09] <__OH__> Kill process 3006 ? (y/N) y
[06:10] <__OH__> then there going to download frle from http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/
[06:10] <__OH__> again
[06:10] <Tervingi> find the IP of it, and put it in your /etc/hosts
[06:10] <Tervingi> So it doesn't go through dns resolution
[06:10] <zykotick9> __OH__: killing that isn't a great idea...  can you just reboot the system?  much cleaner.
[06:11] <__OH__> zykotick9, reboot is not help because im try it's many times
[06:12] <zykotick9> !aptlock | __OH__
[06:12] <Tervingi> bypass it with the hosts file
[06:12] <linuxuz3r> try deleting /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[06:13] <Tervingi> I think apt is getting locked up because it keeps crashing as a result of the network configuration problem you have, that is preventing proper resolution of the sourceforge address.
[06:15] <__OH__> Tervingi, any ways to cache DNS?
[06:16] <__OH__> or remove repository from http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/?
[06:16] <Tervingi> See exactly what address is failing
[06:16] <Tervingi> when you run the dpkg
[06:17] <Tervingi> Then,   run        $ dig sourceforge.addresss.here
[06:17] <Tervingi> that will give you the ip address of it
[06:17] <Tervingi> from a whois info
[06:17] <Tervingi> instead of your dns servers
[06:17] <Tervingi> Then put that in your /etc/hosts
[06:18] <Tervingi> on a side note, perhaps you should look at the possibility of some dns hijacking somewhere if that isn't resolving properly.
[06:20] <Tervingi> if the hosts doesn't immediately take effect, restart network service via        sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:20] <linuxuz3r_> hi
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> hosts should take immediate effect, it is consulted every connection
[06:24] <santhom>  HI everyone I installed ubuntu 10.10 as I am having shud down problem with 11.10 and 12.04 . I wanted to install the library libboost-random-dev but is not found in synaptic manager in 10.10 but found in latetr versions
[06:24] <santhom> is there any way to download it?
[06:24] <santhom> anyone?
[06:25] <Tervingi> http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libboost-random-dev
[06:25] <Tervingi> <-- all about helpful today. w0h000.
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> santhom: Maverick is dead, no longer supported in any way
[06:27] <Tervingi> I would say Google Is Your Friend but I don't believe it anymore. lol
[06:27] <iceroot> !eol | santhom
[06:27] <santhom> @ActionParsnip True, I tried 12.04 and most of the times the computer hangs during shut down process
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: tried duckduckgo ;)
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> santhom: still doesn't make Maverick supported
[06:28] <__OH__> Tervingi, it's not work for me, but thank you for help. still had a problem
[06:29] <Tervingi> bummer.
[06:32] <cfhowlett> !LTS|santhom only is the way to go unless you REALLY need the latest shiny thing.
[06:33] <Tervingi> I wonder why that one is 5 years on desktop....
[06:34] <TJ-> Tervingi: To give enterprises the confidence to adopt it
[06:34] <Tervingi> well I hope they do.
[06:34] <Tervingi> Its not a long trip from that hud "type your command" to "say it"
[06:34] <Tervingi> Which would blow the doors off metro.
[06:35] <TJ-> I think it's a backward step, the HUD. It makes exploring what's installed much more difficult for new users than simply browsing menu categories
[06:35] <TJ-> Once I've got my hand on the mouse I don't want to be dragging it away to type
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: how, with menus you need to search to find what you need, with hud you just type and the menu is searched for you
[06:36] <Tervingi> true, but, if the commands people typed and all the menus of programs were created into a text corpus,  perhaps they could do a natural language "bookmark this" that you could use verbally in every program.
[06:36] <Tervingi> Its the best path to a "star trek" computer I have seen.
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: great for new menu systems, or ones with lots of submenus
[06:36] <Tervingi> I don't use it much, but it seems to have potential
[06:37] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: You miss the point; If you don't know what's available in some categories you won't know what to type. In menu heirachies you can explore down them and see names of programs and recall those later when you need something to do a particular task
[06:37] <New_> hey guys I got a pdf with a key file and a key code and I realy need to open it ( in ubuntu) how can i do it ? any idea?
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: yes but that takes time to learn, with hud there is zero learning
[06:38] <TJ-> The trouble with Unity and the single menu along top is, it was designed for 'bling' on tablets and small screen devices.... not for those of us with multiple HD displays
[06:38] <Tervingi> Right, but that would be unecessary if instead of knowing that someone needs to drill down a menu for increasing a paragraph indent, they could simply type "indent entire paragraph"
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> New_: if evince doesn't do it you can always install the adobe reader
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: we're discussing hud...
[06:38] <Tervingi> I think it goes to just telling the computer what you want it to do
[06:38] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: I beg to differ! I *know* what is on this system and I still often can't find it with HUD
[06:38]  * L3top agrees with TJ-
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: try using hud in gimp,makes life a tonne easier, especially with the different effects etc
[06:39] <New_>  I have document viewer do i need to install evince
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> New_: that is evince
[06:39] <L3top> I want, at the very least, a heirarchical option.
[06:39] <TJ-> Every time this laptop starts and I log-in the first thing I do is run nvidia-x-settings ... I type "nvidia" and it says "can't find it" ... then 20 seconds later it appears.
[06:39] <Tervingi> I can't find it at all, if the computer just listened to me barking at it, life would be great.
[06:39] <Tervingi> That's where the hud comes in :D
[06:40] <Tervingi> I have ATI, and after my last redo, I just said to heck with the proprietary drivers.
[06:40] <TJ-> So it doesn't even cache/learn what my work flow is and help me
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: they aren't always needed :)
[06:41] <New_> adobe is not open source is it?
[06:41] <TJ-> I also hate how the HUD tries to follow me across multiple screens as I change focus whilst typing, and gets in the way
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> New_: no
[06:41] <Tervingi> why would you change focus while typing?
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: some like that, can't please em all
[06:41] <TJ-> I'll be on the LVDS open HUD to search for something, need to check what it is on the other screen in a document for example... and the HUD will move to the other screen and obscure my view
[06:42] <TJ-> I like the concept of HUD... but the execution so far has been like a 10 year backward step in workflow
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: then don't use it.....
[06:43] <Tervingi> My hud does not switch unless I click in the other monitor.
[06:43] <TJ-> Tervingi: Why wouldn't I? My brain and me multitask!
[06:44] <Tervingi> lol
[06:44] <Tervingi> oh
[06:44] <Tervingi> yes it does
[06:45] <TJ-> I just checked by bringing it up on the LVDS then moving the mouse to another HD screen and just leaving it over xchat... 2 seconds later the HUD gets in my way!
[06:46] <Tervingi> well, I hate sounding like a fanboy, but your usage seems a bit bizarre
[06:46] <Tervingi> doing a command in one program while focusing on another seems odd
[06:46] <TJ-> I'm getting on with it better than when I first upgraded to it, and I try to find ways to work with it, but I keep getting stopped from doing things fluidly that I never had issues with previously
[06:46] <TJ-> Why? It's a multi-tasking OS !
[06:47] <TJ-> I have about 10 things going at once mostly and I'm moving between them constantly as they call on my input
[06:47] <TJ-> As I said earlier - HUD and Unity are for small-screen single-use devices
[06:48] <Tervingi> you can disable it in compiz
[06:48] <TJ-> I know, but that isn't practical
[06:48] <TJ-> How can I fix bugs if I avoid using the things that contain the bugs?
[06:48] <Tervingi> lol
[06:49] <Tervingi> That's how you fix bug #1 man.. Come on :D
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: if you don't like an app, don't use it
[06:49] <TJ-> Tervingi: I fixed #1 years ago!
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: you are restricting your own choice by sticking to what is given to you
[06:49] <TJ-> Microsoft has 0% of my market!
[06:49] <AL13N> WTF! did anyone see this? http://blog.mariadb.org/disappearing-test-cases/
[06:49] <AL13N> (08:53:29) AL13N: oracle is close sourcing more of mysql, all distro's should switch to mariadb as default
[06:49] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: I'm an Ubuntu developer! I'd be a right pratt not using the standard software!
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> TJ-: a tonne of apps in Ubuntu are not to my liking or do what I need, I just swap them out for better alternatives (imho)
[06:50] <chandru_in> When using thinkpad's touchpad with Ubuntu, the pointer shivers when charging but not when on battery. Is this a known issue?
[06:50] <Tervingi> I think the HUD has great potential if it becomes more natural language.
[06:50] <TJ-> Hi Bryan
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> chandru_in: what make and model ?
[06:50] <TJ-> chandru_in: Probably it's cold fusion :p
[06:50] <chandru_in> ActionParsnip, Thinkpad X220
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> chandru_in: let me search
[06:51] <chandru_in> TJ-, cold fusion?
[06:51] <TJ-> chandru_in: humour :)
[06:51] <Tervingi> the pointer gets cold when you pour juice on it.
[06:52] <chandru_in> :D
[06:52] <TJ-> chandru_in: is the power supply charger on the same desk/surface as the laptop?
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> chandru_in: run:   gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-synaptics.conf      and add the text at the bottom of this post: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=138360
[06:52] <chandru_in> tj yes
[06:53] <chandru_in> TJ-, yes
[06:53] <TJ-> chandru_in: I'm just wondering if it could be some kind of physical vibration from the power supply... far out idea I know, but...!
[06:53] <chandru_in> Will try ActionParsnip's suggestion
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> chandru_in: do you have the latest BIOS too?
[06:54] <crimsonmane> may i have a re-cap of the current discussion (just entered)
[06:54] <chandru_in> ActionParsnip, will try upgrading too
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> chandru_in: http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-Tablet-ThinkPad-Laptops/Jumpy-Thinkpad-X220-Tablet-Touchpad/td-p/472737
[06:55] <Tervingi> try disabling the touch pad, and then pointing stick.  Each of them one at a time while you plug it in.
[06:55] <Tervingi> That seems hardware
[06:55] <TJ-> chandru_in: see this http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-Tablet-ThinkPad-Laptops/Jumpy-Thinkpad-X220-Tablet-Touchpad/td-p/472737
[06:55] <Tervingi> perhaps it is the keyboard or palmrest
[06:55] <chandru_in> TJ-, ActionParsnip, what did you guys Google for? I've been trying for a day with no luck!
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> Its something to do with some optiiser or somethng (sounds windows based)
[06:55] <TJ-> chandru_in: "thinkpad x220 shaky mouse pointer"
[06:56] <chandru_in> ah ok
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> chandru_in: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Thinkpad+X220+linux+touchpad
[06:56] <chandru_in> Tried shivering :(
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> haha google? What is this 2006?
[06:56] <Tervingi> did it work and fix it?
[06:56] <chandru_in> Tervingi, will be trying soon
[06:56] <Tervingi> I like Qrobe.it for searches
[06:56] <SchekiL> SelamunAleyküm.
[06:56] <Tervingi> never ending results, but otherwise like duck duck go.
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: the bang syntax in duckduckgo is phenominal
[06:57] <Tervingi> bang syntax
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: indeed
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: https://duckduckgo.com/bang.html
[06:57] <Tervingi> reading now
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: its very extensive
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> e.g:   !ppa unity           will show all the launchpad PPAs with unity
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> google can't do anythinig like that
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> plus it doesn't bubble or track you
[06:59] <Tervingi> wow
[06:59] <Tervingi> I do thousands of searches a week I suspect.
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: yes, wow
[06:59] <Tervingi> Glad to have that
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: google sucks, people just think its the way, you can search google from duckduckgo with: !g  and google images with !gi
[07:00] <TJ-> Google has the equivilent, as does Bing. "site:xxxxx"
[07:00] <Guest98268> hi all can anybody tell me how to install powerdvd in ubuntu 12.04.
[07:00] <Tervingi> no, this seems to be search within a categorical subset
[07:00] <Tervingi> I really can use that to filter out garbage.
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest98268: why would you need it?
[07:00] <Tervingi> although qrobe is really good
[07:00] <crimsonmane> Guest98268: you don't need powerdvd when you're running linux. what project are you trying to accomplish? there's a native way to do it.
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: you can order by date site added and so forth too
[07:01] <chandru_in> None of that works :(
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> Guest98268: once you install the DVD decoder, any player can play DVD
[07:01] <Guest98268> ActionParsnip: its the best player i found which gives more clarity when cmp to vlc and other players
[07:01] <MirtheN> Guest98268: o would recomend VLC/Videolan in linux, does everything powerdvd will do and then some
[07:01] <Tervingi> for instance, I just searched "acid !food" and its all relevant to food acids, no chemicals or ads or murder mysteries
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest98268: VLC will also knock the screensaver timeout off :)
[07:02] <crimsonmane> i think you're point on clarity is an imagined one.
[07:02] <MirtheN> switched from powerdvd to vlc years ago
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> Guest98268: its not in the wine appdb but considering the amount of native players for Linux why do you want to hold onto power dvd???
[07:03] <Tervingi> Do you have a windows license?
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: indeed
[07:03] <Tervingi> you could virtual box it
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> Tervingi: to the food bit
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> howcome ubuntu-restrited-extras does not install by default?
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> Guest98268: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install libdvdread4; sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh; sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:05] <Guest98268> i'm using vlc &  powerdvd player on windows7, when cmp to vlc powerdvd player gives more clarity & sounds.
[07:05] <Tervingi> lol
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: licensing
[07:05] <Tervingi> Guest98268
[07:05] <Guest98268> Tervingi: yes
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: is that the option one can enable at install process? about other party software
[07:05] <Tervingi> Install Windows in a VM in Virtual BOX
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> Guest98268: you are free to try it in wine but I doubt it will work. Don't forget that linux is a completely different OS with differnet drivers and display methods
[07:06] <MirtheN> thats cause in vlc you have to actually know how to set the video up to your liking, you can make it just as clear/crisp/whatever as powerdvd will do, just need to enable advanced options
[07:06] <Tervingi> then run it with power dvd, hit ctrl+l
[07:06] <Tervingi> and it will look just like a Linux app
[07:06] <Tervingi> but you don't have to worry about a hassle getting it to work
[07:06] <Guest98268> ok
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: yes, it is downloaded from the repos, it cannot be added to the ISO for licensing issues around the globe. Not all countries allow MP3 codecs etc
[07:06] <Tervingi> XP would be better so you aren't wasting a ton of space and cpu
[07:06] <captine> hi all.  My Bluetooth doesnt seem to be picked up by 12.04.  Am using an Acer Aspire 4755G with a broadcom Bluetooth (I believe)
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: ok tnx understood
[07:06] <MirtheN> yeah can get one of the 'stipped' down versions of xp
[07:07] <Israfel> This morning's update caused my chrome to not play audio. Works in Firefox. I'm beginning to tire of Chrome "updates" breaking everything.
[07:07] <Guest98268> Tervingi: so without wind/ vm i cant install this right?
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> captine: if you run:  dmesg | grep -i blue     is it mentioned?
[07:07] <Tervingi> If it is a regular Windows app, then you would need either Wine or Virtual Machine.
[07:07] <MirtheN> you can try using wine to install and run it, if it doesnt even get close to running using wine then you are stuck in a VM with windows
[07:07] <Tervingi> Virtual machine is the only option if you want the hardware acceleration you are mentioning for the picture and sound
[07:08] <Tervingi> Power DVD has linux software, perhaps they have a native version
[07:08] <test--abc> ?
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Israfel: if you close all instances of the browser and rename ~/.config/google-chrome     then rerun, is it better
[07:08] <Guest98268> ok
[07:08] <Guest50596> thedarkhaker@hotmail.com
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:08] <Guest50596> hi
[07:08] <captine> ActionParsnip, yes, it does show up (http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1153998/)
[07:08] <Guest50596> yes
[07:08] <Guest50596> new
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Guest98268: so you are going to run both Windows and Linux at the same time for the sake of a DVD playback app....?
[07:09] <diminoten> anyone ever try playing video games in a virtual  machine?
[07:09] <diminoten> sounds super novel
[07:09] <Guest50596> no
[07:09] <test--abc> how remove bash center - Software available for download
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: 2D should be ok, 3D I believe will struggle
[07:09] <Tervingi> nothing like diablo 1 on a big screen baby!
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> !playonlinux | diminoten
[07:09] <captine> ActionParsnip, but I dont seem to be able to turn it on in Ubuntu (under Bluetooth Settings, it says Bluetooth is disabled)
[07:09] <diminoten> playonlinux sounds bleh
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | diminoten
[07:09] <test--abc> help..
[07:09] <Guest50596> bleuthoot
[07:09] <Tervingi> bleck
[07:10] <Tervingi> don't go with play on linux
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> captine: can you pastebin the output of:  lsusb; lsb_release -a; uname -a       Thanks
[07:10] <Tervingi> it disempowers you through obfuscation of the workings of your os
[07:10] <Guest50596> thinks
[07:10] <Guest98268> ActionParsnip: not only for the sake of apps. Most of the time i will use linux, if something is not working on linux then i will login in windows..
[07:10] <Tervingi> Virtual box can do hardware acceleration
[07:10] <diminoten> yeah
[07:10] <diminoten> !
[07:10] <diminoten> gonna try it and report results
[07:10] <Tervingi> up to 256mb video memory
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> Guest98268: I guess, but Linux can do DVD playback just fine
[07:10] <diminoten> good enough for league of legends!
[07:11] <MykleSea> hi
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> hi MykleSea
[07:11] <MykleSea> can somebody help me with something regarding ubuntu
[07:11] <captine> ActionParsnip, please see http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1154003/
[07:11] <Guest98268> ActionParsnip: i will do the steps u game me b4
[07:11] <MirtheN> Guest98268: http://shop.canonical.com/powerdvd.pdf
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> MykleSea:just ask your question mate
[07:11] <diminoten> wrong channel man!
[07:11] <diminoten> lol
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> captine: ok and the output of:  lspci      Thanks
[07:12] <MykleSea> I am trying to automount  my usb to my ubuntu server using 'usbmount'...  ive installed it... but once i plug in my usb,  usb0 continues to be an empty directory.. how do i fix this?  usb0-7 are all empty
[07:13] <MykleSea> i will be  plugging in and unplugging my usb every so often which is why i wnat to use usbmount
[07:13] <captine> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1154004/  Thanks for looking into this.  Please let me know what you are looking for etc?
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> MykleSea:in what format are your usb sticks?
[07:13] <MykleSea> i believe its ntfs
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> MykleSea: when you come to unplug it, do you unmount it and eject it?
[07:13] <MykleSea> i can manually mount it
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> !ntfs | MykleSea
[07:14] <MykleSea> yes i unmount
[07:15] <MykleSea> i do not have any usb mounted at this moment. they are all unmounted.. but my usb0  will continue being empty even if i uninstall and install again
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> captine: the pastebins are all the detected hardware in the system
[07:16] <Tervingi> MykleSea
[07:16] <Tervingi> fdisk -l
[07:16] <MykleSea> yes
[07:16] <Tervingi> That will you show the device it is
[07:16] <MykleSea> yes
[07:17] <Tervingi> what device is it
[07:17] <MykleSea> ive done that.  ive manually mounted it using thtabefore.. but i dont want to manually mount it every time
[07:17] <MykleSea>  its called "/dev/sdh1
[07:17] <TJ-> anyone else getting "You triggered the wiki's surge protection by doing too many requests in a short time." from  https://help.ubuntu.com
[07:17] <MykleSea> yes i keep getting that
[07:17] <MykleSea> which is why im here asking :P
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> TJ-:working fine here on firefox
[07:20] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: strange... apparently one request is too many :D
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> "Canonical is in the process of moving out of one data centre and into a new one."   nice
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> TJ-:on what browser?
[07:20] <rs3> Hi all, my laptop stutters (mouse input, scrolling, screen updates, and sound) every ten seconds.  Does this on x86-pae and amd64 installs of 12.04.  Updated, no change.  No events show up when I monitor Xorg.0.log or syslog.  Using an Intel Core 2 Duo laptop with Intel 4500MHD graphics accelerator.  Any ideas?
[07:20] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: I thought the move was over now, according to the mailing-list yesterday
[07:20] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: Firefox
[07:20] <Tervingi> did you edit fstab Myklesea?
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> TJ-:tryed it on another browser?
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> tj-; just got that now
[07:20] <MykleSea> i did.. but i removed my edit
[07:20] <MykleSea> its back to its original
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> rs3:previous default Os on the laptop?
[07:20] <TJ-> OK, not just me. I think the front-end caching load-balancers don't have connections to the web servers yet... HTTP 503
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> captine: kinda similar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez-utils/+bug/284982
[07:20] <TJ-> General capacity issue, not just me
[07:20] <rs3> lotuspsychje: Windows :/  haha.  Debian Wheezy does the same thing as Ubuntu 12.04 in this case, though.  Windows does not.
[07:20] <Tervingi> you could just type #mount -a
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> rs3:wich version of windows?
[07:20] <TheOnlyLix> ok so guess what
[07:20] <MykleSea> ive done  mount -a
[07:20] <Tervingi> if you leave the edit in fstab
[17:26] <ghrost> Poptet, can you ping any website?
[17:26] <gianni_777> thank you sandyd
[17:26] <L3top> Potet: are you connected directly to the router/modem or is it possibly behind a firewall?
[17:26] <blazingtruth_> hey all, i'm getting this message at the end of my updates: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 8CD60EC948894010
[17:26] <gianni_777> yes is the flash plugin ..
[17:27] <L3top> ghrost: he has internet access... just not the web admin for the device
[17:27] <Potet> Yeah, it works
[17:27] <gianni_777> i've installed them in firefox but i can't see nothing yet
[17:27] <Psi-Jack> Potet: Like I said, ##networking is your channel for that device. It's nothing related to Ubuntu at all.
[17:27] <sandyd> gianni_777, does flash work with other flash sites?
[17:29] <FreeMansMind> How do I make sure that my Graphic card driver is installed?
[17:29] <vikram> i installed moc from source ... but when i run it gives FATAL_ERROR: No valid sound driver
[17:29] <Potet> Psi-Jack, okay, I'm writing there now, just thought I could stay around when I got help. :)
[17:29] <gianni_777> sandyd oh...what can ido ??
[17:29] <sandyd> gianni_777, does the flash ad at http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ show up?
[17:31] <Frieds> L3top, it says gflrx_pci
[17:31] <Frieds> so it looks like it's swapped over right
[17:31] <L3top> then we are good Frieds :)
[17:31] <Frieds> sweet
[17:31] <tab1293> is packages.ubuntu.com down for anyone else?
[17:31] <gianni_777> sandyd i'll try it right away
[17:31] <Frieds> beside spending hours reading the wiki, any advice for a newb to learn linux
[17:31] <sandyd> tab1293, must be the server move
[17:31] <sandyd> its down for me as well
[17:31] <ghrost> tab1293, down here
[17:31] <truexfan81> are the ppas down also?
[17:31] <L3top> Frieds: look at all the bash scripts already on your machine. Run individual commands, figure out what they do. Do this in a virtual environment so if you destroy things you are safe.
[17:31] <Frieds> as long as I don't su/sudo myself
[17:31] <tab1293> sandyd, how can i install a specific package and its deps from the Quantal repos? i would usually just go to packages.ubuntu.com
[17:31] <vikram>  i installed moc (music on console ) from source ... but when i run it gives FATAL_ERROR: No valid sound driver
[17:31] <L3top> Frieds: thats were all the fun is :)
[17:31] <sandyd> tab1293, what package?
[17:31] <Frieds> I'm running this on a seperate box taht I can screw around with just to learn *nix again
[17:31] <tab1293> python-libtorrent sandyd
[17:31] <datruth_> Wow can't believe this is complicated
[17:32] <Frieds> I used to use FBSD years ago (think like 10+) so I'm loving the immersion in *nix culture again
[17:32] <L3top> Frieds: I would load up a virtual machine (virtualbox kvm vmware) and blow things up in there.
[17:32] <sandyd> apt-get build-dep python-libtorrent , tab1293
[17:32] <Frieds> but where's the fun in that?
[17:32] <blazingtruth_> hey guys, can i get some help here?  | W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 8CD60EC948894010
[17:33] <Frieds> I want to be able to blow up my PC instead of using the Windows VM Machine on my laptop
[17:33] <L3top> Frieds: install ubuntu inside ubuntu and go reap havoc... because you can take snapshots, so when you blow things up, just reload the snapshot. Saves a lot of time.
[17:33] <KommaH> Hey all. I have a question.
[17:33] <L3top> Frieds: Use the vm inside of Ubuntu
[17:33] <Frieds> any good vmwares you can recommend then?
[17:33] <L3top> not windows
[17:34] <sandyd> KommaH, ask away
[17:34] <Frieds> there's a VM built in?
[17:34] <L3top> kvm
[17:34] <KommaH> sandyd: Will do. Gimmie a sec to type. :p
[17:34] <FreeMansMind> anyone?
[17:34] <Frieds> lol <<---- clearly you can see how newbish I am here
[17:34] <Wild_Man> Frieds, I use virtualbax from there site
[17:34] <L3top> virtualbox is more gui friendly for configuration Frieds.
[17:34] <sandyd> blazingtruth_, sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8CD60EC948894010
[17:34] <KommaH> I need to run a script on startup. It needs to be in screen and run as another user (not root). How do I do this?
[17:34] <dougl> err how do I install a new hard drive in my 12.04 install? there is no fstab anymore and I want ext4 fs not 3 dont I?
[17:35] <blazingtruth> hey all
[17:35] <LostSoul> i wish you all a very nice day =)
[17:35] <Frieds> Have a fantastic Day man
[17:35] <L3top> sandyd: I think blazingtruth would just need 48894010 in that
[17:35] <blazingtruth> sorry, i'm here. what'd i miss?
[17:36] <sandyd> blazingtruth, sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 48894010
[17:36] <sandyd> whoops
[17:36] <sandyd> didn't see that.
[17:36] <L3top> :)
[17:36] <sandyd> thanks L3top
[17:36] <vikram> where should i go ..??
[17:38] <Kihokki> sandyd, There was no effect :/ I got correct resolution working by  installing kernel 3.4.4 but no 2D acceleration and no VGA output
[17:38] <gianni_777> sandyd thank you very much!! it works ...i've downloaded it just now and it works..
[17:39] <blazingtruth> It's not working, L3top
[17:39] <Vlan_> anyone with a SSD drive experiencing low write/read values even with AHCI support enabled?
[17:39] <gianni_777> have a nice day!!
[17:39] <gianni_777> hi
[17:39] <blazingtruth> oh, nevermind
[17:39] <blazingtruth> copy pasted and it worked
[17:40] <sandyd> Kihokki, file a bug
[17:40] <blazingtruth> thank you :)
[17:40] <L3top> gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 48894010; gpg --export --armor 48894010 | apt-key add -              blazingtruth
[17:40] <Kihokki> sandyd, How?
[17:40] <L3top> ok then
[17:40] <sandyd> Kihokki, some of the older HW support is a bit iffy at times
[17:40] <Kihokki> To launchpad?
[17:40] <sandyd> Kihokki, yes
[17:40] <L3top> Ignore that big one then blazingtruth.
[17:41] <blazingtruth> OK. I'm also looking to improve battery life. would you have any recommendations?
[17:41] <L3top> lubuntu... lol
[17:42] <sandyd> xubuntu as well
[17:43] <sandyd> blazingtruth, you might also want to turn down the graphical effects
[17:43] <sandyd> those consume quite a lot of battery
[17:43] <blazingtruth> i think my problem is with nvidia
[17:43] <Aquethys> >___________________________________________<
[17:44] <Aquethys> Oh
[17:44] <Aquethys> Yay :D Ungagged
[17:44] <Aquethys> Guys I have a question! Trying to install Ubuntu 12.04 and on the step where I can boot into Ubuntu and then click the Install Ubuntu on the desktop.
[17:45] <Aquethys> Do I click install in windows or the other one
[17:45] <Aquethys> (choose a partition)
[17:46] <sandyd> Aquethys, what is your partition setup?
[17:46] <Aquethys> Err not sure. I think it's all C drive
[17:46] <Aquethys> for windows 8
[17:46] <sandyd> Aquethys, then select windows
[17:47] <chewey> I've just screwed myself - with lots of help by EFI: After installing Ubuntu with an EFI parition, the F2 key is dead and the F12 key of the initial boot screen send me to a "graphical" boot menu only containing "ubuntu".
[17:47] <chewey> Any idea how I can get it to boot from an external drive again?
[17:47] <chewey> (it's a Fujitsu Lifebook AH532 NG)
[17:48] <OerHeks> Aquethys, windows8 isn't out yet, so why do you think we can help?
[17:48] <sandyd> *alongside windows
[17:48] <Aquethys> I will screenshot it and post it for you, just to be safe :P
[17:48] <Aquethys> Well it's similar to windows 7..
[17:49] <Aquethys> Here's the partition thing
[17:49] <Aquethys> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/74356743/partitions.PNG
[17:49] <Aquethys> Install inside windows?
[17:49] <sandyd> Aquethys, you have the maximum amount of partitions for a MBR partition table
[17:49] <Aquethys> Is that bad?
[17:50] <Aquethys> can I remove one (like the unallocated? idk how that got there)
[17:50] <sandyd> well, you can't install Ubuntu on a partition Aquethys
[17:50] <Aquethys> so install alongside windows?
[17:51] <sandyd> Aquethys, you can only install via wubi I believe
[17:51] <OerHeks> you can, on 'unallocated'
[17:51] <Aquethys> oh
[17:51] <Aquethys> How big of a difference is there?
[17:51] <sandyd> OerHeks, I believe the uallocated is unpartitioned space
[17:51] <ghrost> sandyd, but like you said he can't use that partition
[17:52] <sandyd> ghrost, wubi
[17:52] <sandyd> installs inside windows.
[17:52] <The_Cog> All 4 primary partitions are used, so he can't get at the unused 23 Gig
[17:52] <sandyd> Aquethys, not sure, youll have to ask someone else
[17:52] <OerHeks> this screen is not from a wubi install, but the normal (sidebyside) install
[17:52] <ghrost> sandyd, MBR does not support more than 4 partitions
[17:52] <sandyd> Never used wubi
[17:52] <Aquethys> What's mbr
[17:52] <L3top> wubi is da debil.
[17:52] <L3top> Aquethys: master boot record
[17:52] <sandyd> ghrost, that is what I said
[17:52] <sandyd> which is why I am telling Aquethys to install via wubi
[17:52] <Aquethys> Oh
[17:52] <Aquethys> Okay
[17:53] <ghrost> sandyd, so he needs a extended partition
[17:53] <OerHeks> ghrost +1
[17:53] <Aquethys> Well the point of me installing Ubuntu is to code Android so will it matter whether it's Wubi or not?
[17:53] <sandyd> because there is no other way Aquethys can install
[17:53] <Aquethys> I still would prefer a permanent
[17:53] <sandyd> You can't create an extended partition when you already have 4 partitions.
[17:53] <L3top> ghrost: +2
[17:53] <Wild_Man> Aquethys the only way you can install without using wubi is to delete one of your primary partitions
[17:54] <ghrost> L3top, sorry I'm new here, what is that +number
[17:54] <sandyd> Aquethys, I would probably remove the HP tools partition
[17:54] <sandyd> and save the stuff from there
[17:54] <L3top> means I second your position ghrost
[17:54] <OerHeks> ghrost, +1 means we agree with you
[17:54] <Aquethys> Is that an important partition?
[17:54] <ghrost> L3top, :)
[17:54] <Wild_Man> Aquethys, usually people delete the recovery partition after making there recovery cd's of window
[17:54] <Sidewinder1> ghrost, Usually "+1" means 'I agree'.
[17:54] <Aquethys> Oh could you walk me through that Wald Man
[17:55] <Aquethys> Wild* I need to do that :P
[17:55]  * L3top pretends there are two people here who agree.
[17:55] <Sidewinder1> ;-)
[17:55] <sandyd> :D
[17:55] <BluesKaj> Wild_Man, I count 3 primaries , he can use the unallocated one , unless the recovery counts as aprimary
[17:56] <Aquethys> there's 3 primaries
[17:56] <Aquethys> At least that's what I see in the disk management
[17:56] <BluesKaj> he's allowed 4 primaries
[17:56] <sandyd> wait, isn't system reserved one?
[17:56] <ghrost> Blueskaj, Recovery( Primary partition)
[17:56] <Aquethys> Oh
[17:56] <Aquethys> crud you're right sandy lol
[17:57] <Aquethys> Mousing over it it is primary
[17:57] <Aquethys> uh oh
[17:57] <Aquethys> so what's HP Tools used for? Can I just format it?
[17:57] <sandyd> Aquethys, so you should follow Wild_Man 's advice, and remove the recovery partition
[17:57] <sandyd> Assuming you have made recovery discs that is
[17:57] <Aquethys> How do I do that? Ihaven't yet
[17:57] <ghrost> Aquethys, it is usually diagnostic stuff
[17:57] <Aquethys> make a recovery disk
[17:57] <Wild_Man> Sandyd, I am sure it is a primary partition but it is hard to tell from the screenshot
[17:57] <Aquethys> I have an hp 4.7GB DVD now
[17:57] <sandyd> You can either remove the recovery or the HP tools partition.
[17:58] <BluesKaj> ghrost, ok, but most ppl dump the windows recovery partition ..it's quite useless anyway
[17:58] <Kihokki> sandyd,  I found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1025719 but where are the updates then?
[17:58] <ghrost> BluesKaj, yes I think he can get rid of recovery andredieb hp_tools
[17:58] <Wild_Man> Aquethys, make sure to create your recovery cd's first
[17:58] <sandyd> Kihokki, hasn't been [aclaged yet
[17:58] <sandyd> *packaged
[17:58] <Aquethys> how? :|
[17:59] <Aquethys> it's 16GB and I have a bunch of 4.7GB CDs...is that okay?
[17:59] <sandyd> Aquethys, http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&docname=c01867124
[17:59] <Wild_Man> Aquethys, type recovery cd into the help window and it will tell you how
[17:59] <sandyd> Aquethys, yes
[17:59] <Aquethys> thanks
[17:59] <BluesKaj> ghrost, exactly
[17:59] <Kihokki> sandyd, Do you know when? I've waited this for about 3 months
[18:00] <sandyd> Kihokki, no idea, you will have to ask MOTU bout that
[18:00] <sandyd> or whoever is the maintainer of that package
[18:01] <Kihokki> sandyd, Okay, well I will look for them :p
[18:03] <petisnnake> Hello, I installed python 3.1, apache2 and mod_wsgi enabled. What do I need to do next to actually have an app running on my localhost?
[18:03] <samfromat> i'm getting some errors continuously. can anyone tell what these means. http://pastebin.com/My3Pxmup
[18:03] <Aquethys> How do I get to HP recovery manager in windows 8? :|
[18:04] <Wild_Man> Aquethys, type recovery cd into help or search and it should lead you to it
[18:04] <Jarrydx26> Aquethys: You will find it on HP website :)
[18:05] <wilee-nilee> Aquethys, if you are still within the HP insurance I would call them I suspect you can get a full OEM recovery disc set rather cheap probably 30$, for a secondary backup as well just to be covered
[18:06] <Aquethys> brb
[18:07] <Jarrydx26> My HP laptop is 2 years old . I still play games like crazy :) . Plus i been using it without battery for a year and no problems at all
[18:07] <diminoten> what are these three packages? GMP 4.2+, MPFR 2.4.0+ and MPC 0.8.0+
[18:08] <diminoten> nevermidn
[18:09] <Jarrydx26> GIMP 4.2 ? I'm still using GIMP 2.6 , i need a upgrade
[18:10] <L3top> Jarrydx26: I believe gmp is gnome music player
[18:10] <eme442> hello. how do i make all wireless be turned off by default at bootup on my laptop?
[18:10] <samfromat> i have got these errors. can anyone tell me what these mean? http://pastebin.com/My3Pxmup
[18:11] <Kihokki> sandyd, My hands are shaking, I enabled precice-proposed updates and the package showed up in proposed drivers list! But what is DKMS driver?
[18:11] <sandyd> Kihokki, auto build
[18:11] <sandyd> it rebuilds itself each kernel update
[18:11] <sandyd> is safe and normal
[18:11] <Kihokki> So, I just need to update my kernel? How?
[18:11] <Jarrydx26> Oh L3top lol ,i dont have my glasses on ,thanks for the correction
[18:12] <sandyd> Kihokki, you don't need to
[18:12] <Wild_Man> eme442, go to network manager top right corner of the screen and click on enable wireless to uncheck it
[18:12] <sandyd> Kihokki, just install the proposed driver :)
[18:12] <sandyd> Ubuntu manages the rest
[18:13] <Kihokki> sandyd, I did that, all that remains is restart? :D
[18:13] <sandyd> Kihokki, yes
[18:13] <Kihokki> Horray! Well I hope this works now, restarting now...
[18:13] <Wild_Man> Kihokki, cross your fingers
[18:14] <tux__> hello, i am new to lvm ... i made a mistake and named my lvm at installation wrong. now i changed the names with lvmrename and ubuntu starts in grub rescue mode. how can i repair grub?
[18:14] <Newtothis> Quick question: I installed Ubuntu via the Windows installer because my computer was being difficult regarding any other installation methods, and now I'd like to know how to make Ubuntu the only operating system on my machine. Any help?
[18:15] <k1l> Newtothis: make a new install
[18:16] <samfromat> Newtothis, Just boot your computer with ubuntu media(cd/dvd) and follow installation method. choose the windows partition for installation.
[18:16] <k1l> Newtothis: the wubi isntall is just a container inside the windows partition.
[18:17] <eme442> @Wild_Man: ok, thanx
[18:17] <Newtothis> samfromat: That's the thing, my computer doesn't like booting from the flash drive, and we can't get a CD to burn properly.
[18:18] <sandyd> Newtothis, can't get a cd to burn properly?
[18:18] <Jordan_U> Newtothis: How did you try to burn a CD?
[18:18] <sandyd> Newtothis, tried imgburn? http://www.imgburn.com/
[18:19] <Newtothis> Ah. I had just used the windows one...
[18:19] <samfromat> Newtothis: if you want to say that you can't use any of the physical mediam to boot your computer, then there is network boot system. sombody other than me might help you.
[18:20] <fijil> hhi
[18:20] <nejode> Newtothis, you have to be careful when you burn the CD... make sure you burn it as "iso image"
[18:21] <Newtothis> I'm gonna see if I can't make the CD burn right this time... it might even be easier to burn it on Ubuntu itsself...
[18:21] <Sniper_5> If anyone has some free time I could really use some help with Eclipse
[18:21] <loganrun> I am having issues with two new SATA hard drives. I am thinking it might be an issue with the Ubuntu drivers or something. Does anyone understand the errors in the dmesg log? http://pastebin.com/dVL54A4M
[18:22] <Jarrydx26> Sniper_5 try Netbeans , its much less on errors than eclipse
[18:22] <Sniper_5> Im trying to set up Android SDK and ADT
[18:22] <loganrun> I am thinking of trying an older version of ubuntu or something, not sure what to do
[18:23] <loganrun> I have tried switching around the cables, but that didn't help
[18:23] <sandyd> loganrun, its an interface problem
[18:23] <Sniper_5> Does NetBeans accept the Android SDK and ADT like Eclipse? Im new to developing so I was going to use the guides for Eclipse which is why I chose that
[18:23] <sandyd> Either your interface has dust or something, or your HDDs are shot
[18:24] <loganrun> sandyd: is it a hardware or software issue though. issue with the motherboard cabels or what
[18:24] <sandyd> hardware
[18:24] <sandyd> loganrun, try swaping the sata cable
[18:24] <sandyd> *ports
[18:24] <raven> how to mount partitions of a raw diskdump?
[18:24] <loganrun> sandyd: I hooked the harddrives up to another system through a eternal usb/sata interface and ran the seagate test on them and they came out fine
[18:25] <sandyd> loganrun, you have an intel sandybridge chipset?
[18:25] <Jarrydx26> Sniper_5 i suggest netbeans , I'm sure there is an Android plugin avaliable for it , but its up to you :)
[18:25] <sandyd> what MB model is it?
[18:25] <loganrun> sandyd: i did try swapping the cables around and plugging them into different ports, but that didn't seem to solve it, the CPU is dual core Intel, should be in the dmesg log, forget teh actual make of it
[18:26] <Sniper_5> Ill gladly try it Jarrydx26, Im open to anything right now because Im used to everything on 10.10, I cant get it working on Eclipse
[18:27] <loganrun> sandyd: the motherboard is gigabyte ga -965p-s3
[18:27] <Guest35233> hi
[18:27] <Sidewinder1> Newtothis, First, md5sum your ISO to make sure it's correct; then, when burning, make sure to burn at the slowest speed.
[18:27] <sandyd> loganrun, we can't help you here, due to the fact that it isn't a ubuntu (software) problem
[18:28] <sandyd> The best thing to do is to call up Gigabyte, and ask them, or else ask in ##harware
[18:28] <loganrun> sandyd: o.k but I just wanted to make sure it was not a driver incompatibility issue with the motherboard, how can you tell
[18:28] <sandyd> *hardware
[18:28] <Guest35233> i need new distro for ordinary work....any suggest?:)
[18:29] <loganrun> sandyd: o.k. I'll try on hardware
[18:29] <sandyd> loganrun, DRDY ERR, ICRC ABRT, and other errors in the dmesg are an indicator of either HW failure or problems
[18:29] <Guest35233> ?!
[18:30] <Newtothis> I've Md5summed it before. I know it's the correct ISO.
[18:30] <Sidewinder1> Newtothis, Did you burn it at the slowest speed?
[18:31] <Newtothis> I'm actually not sure.
[18:31] <Sidewinder1> That's usually best.
[18:32] <Sidewinder1> Newtothis, When burning a video, a misplaced bit, here and there isn't a big deal; in an entire operation system.. well. you know what I mean. ;)
[18:33] <Newtothis> Yeah. I see where you're going. :P
[18:35] <marsfligth> Hi, can you explain me in short what 'apt-get dselect-upgrade' does? I read many man's and forums, but honestly it's function is not clear to me. Thanks for reading
[18:36] <Michel> hey if i do the ubuntu default installation on my first disk
[18:36] <Michel> can i use the other disk later?
[18:36] <Michel> for storage
[18:36] <recon_lap> Michel: yes
[18:37] <cellofellow> Anybody have tips for getting Empathy to work with Google Talk and Google Voice?
[18:37] <Zatoxxx> humm i'm interrested too :)
[18:37] <Michel> recon_lap, how
[18:38] <recon_lap> Michel: you can add the drive to your fstab file to auto mount it, also disk manager can mount it as well
[18:39] <TJ-> Michel: I'm with you now :)
[18:40] <arooni-mobile> i have a huge curl request that i have stored as a file.  how can i execute this command without copying/pasting
[18:41] <cellofellow> arooni-mobile: you can put it in a file, with the first line the bash shebang (#!/bin/bash) and then chmod +x it. Then you can just ./mycurlscript
[18:41] <marsfligth> Hi, can you explain me in short what exactly 'apt-get dselect-upgrade' does?
[18:42] <MythUser> Any MythTV expert here?
[18:42] <dme> chat
[18:43] <MythUser> I'm having a problem with MythTV not connecting to the database backend and the forums is down for who knows how long so I cannot check there
[18:44] <blackgatonegro> is there a guide to add a second monitor to ubuntu or something?
[18:45] <samfromat> blackgatonegro:yes there are guides available at the forums. just wait for forums to up and running
[18:46] <MythUser> anyone know how to get mythtv fronted to connect to the backend database?  both are on the same machine
[18:46] <NOsen> anyone know how to graph usage of diffrent protocols on the network with rrdtool (like cisco NBAR but for linux) ?
[18:48] <SkippersBoss>  blackgatonegro look at Xorg and tweak with xrandr
[18:51] <Newtothis> Let's see if this DVD works...:/
[18:52] <gunarm> if I take my RAID drives out of my computer and put them in another computer, or just reformat the OS, my understanding is that as long as that computer has mdadm it will fix any problems in the array and bring it online, is it still this simple if I put an LVM layer on top of it?
[18:52] <ikonia> gunarm: no chance
[18:52] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: Software RAID, mdadm. :)
[18:52] <Psi-Jack> He just forgot to mention that part.
[18:52] <ikonia> still no chance with lvm on top
[18:52] <gunarm> Psi-Jack, thanks ;)
[18:52] <Psi-Jack> Pardon?
[18:52] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: With LVM on top, it's perfectly plausible/.
[18:53] <Psi-Jack> You just have to import them.
[18:53] <ikonia> I suspect the Vg's will not come on line
[18:53] <samfromat> i have these logs. What these means? http://pastebin.com/My3Pxmup
[18:53] <ikonia> you maybe ok if you do a vgexport before removing the disks and then a vgimport
[18:53] <NOsen> its more of a "do i dare" yes or no question
[18:53] <gunarm> Psi-Jack, but it sounds like even if its plausible it certainly adds a nontrivial amount of complication to the process
[18:53] <Psi-Jack> gunarm: For the LVM portion, you'll need to /export/ the LVM volumes, before moving them.
[18:54] <Newtothis> I think it is... what's this keyboard equals man in a circle?
[18:54] <ikonia> Psi-Jack: all on board with that
[18:54] <gunarm> i think im just gonna avoid LVM since i dont really need it anyway, i was just considering it for future flexibility
[18:54] <Psi-Jack> LVM is nice, and worthwhile.
[18:54] <Psi-Jack> gunarm: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/recipemovevgtonewsys.html
[18:54] <Newtothis> Wait... that's gone... okay. I'll just let it do its thing for now.
[18:56] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: So, there you go. LVM moved to another system. ;)
[18:56] <ikonia> Psi-Jack: I don't disagree if you do an export first
[18:57] <Psi-Jack> hehe
[18:57] <ikonia> pulling the disks and just putting them in, more pain
[18:57] <Psi-Jack> Indeed.
[18:57] <FreeMansMind> Hello again.
[18:58] <FreeMansMind> Can some buddy please tell me how to make sure that I have my Graphic Card driver installed? (Ubuntu 12.04 LTS)
[18:59] <jdiesel> where can I find help setting up weechat ? Is this the right channel for help w that ?
[18:59] <i7c> jdiesel: #weechat ;)
[18:59] <jdiesel> thanks
[19:00] <jdiesel> that was simple
[19:00] <i7c> ;)
[19:00] <samfromat> FreeMansMind: Which graphics card are you using?
[19:00] <Moonlightning> … o.o;
[19:01] <Newtothis> Preparing to install Ubuntu.... okay... if I replace Windows 7 with Ubuntu, will that get rid of the old Ubuntu installation I had that I used Windows 7 to create?
[19:02] <tiberio_d> it will give you options during the install, do you want 2 ubuntu installs?
[19:02] <smw> Newtothis, yes, but then you would lose windows 7
[19:02] <smw> Newtothis, are you sure you want to do this?
[19:02] <samfromat> Newtothis: if you have install ubuntu on the same drive where windows was install then it will get rid of it.
[19:02] <smw> Newtothis, you will lose all your programs, settings, an documents in windows
[19:02] <Psi-Jack> Newtothis: When you delete /ALL/ partitions, and re-create them and format them, you will remove everything.
[19:02] <Newtothis> smw: Yes, I'm certain. I got this computer specifically so I could have a Linux computer for work and whatnot. I don't have anything on Windows.
[19:03] <Moonlightning> My laptop just died, in the middle of a huge software update…I think it was even upgrading the kernel, too…it seems to have actually /shut down/, as if with `shutdown -h now`, rather than just killing the power suddenly…is there anything I need to do, or should I just `apt-get upgrade` again?
[19:03] <smw> Newtothis, needed to make sure :-)
[19:03] <TaJMoX> I'm looking for the Rhythmbox preference file because on my "watched folders" it just says "Multiple locations" and I'd like to see what those are.
[19:03] <Debolaz> Aside from putting in a cron job, is there a way to get the system to update completely automatically? Ie, some configuration option?
[19:03] <smw> Newtothis, in that case, if you have ubuntu format your entire drive... it will delete everything that was there previously
[19:03] <L3top> Moonlightning: whether or not it will be problematic depends on if it was downloading things, or installing them
[19:03] <Moonlightning> It was installing (I think).
[19:04] <samfromat> Moonlightning: just use 'apt-get upgrade' again.
[19:04] <TimothyA> what happened to mirror.cc.columbia.edu ?
[19:04] <L3top> Moonlightning: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:04] <Moonlightning> By the way, thanks for your earlier suggestion about `nomodeset`. ^^
[19:04] <L3top> Moonlightning: then upgrade again
[19:04] <L3top> np
[19:04] <Moonlightning> `dpkg --configure -a` then `apt-get upgrade`?
[19:04] <Newtothis> smw:  Pardon my ignorance, but would I want to pick replace Windows 7 with Ubuntu, or "Something Else?"
[19:05] <TimothyA> and is there a command in ubuntu to replace the sources list with different recommended official repositories on the fly?
[19:05] <smw> Newtothis, I don't know the exact options to choose from
[19:06] <smw> Newtothis, if one of the options is "replace windows 7", I would say that sounds right
[19:06] <TaJMoX> Is it possible to force Rhythmbox to re-scan folders for media?
[19:06] <Newtothis> I suppose I can try again and just format the whole damn thing if all else fails...
[19:06] <smw> TimothyA, different recommended repos?
[19:06] <TimothyA> smw: yes
[19:06] <smw> what does that mean?
[19:06] <TimothyA> if there is a command to swap out the current configuration with a different one
[19:07] <samfromat> Newtothis: if you want to partition the whole hard disk the choose 'something else' ,if you dont the just 'replace windows7'
[19:07] <TimothyA> or, I don't know... if there is somewhere a list online with available repositories?
[19:07] <smw> TimothyA, just move your new list to /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:07] <TimothyA> smw: I don't have a new list
[19:07] <TimothyA> where do I get a new list
[19:07] <smw> TimothyA, why do you want a new list?
[19:07] <gompa> how to install rocket raid 2320 on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[19:07] <smw> why do you think there is a new list?
[19:07] <TimothyA> because the repository doesn't work
[19:08] <TimothyA> http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu it's broken. it's kaput. it doesn't respond.
[19:08] <smw> !doesn't work | TimothyA
[19:08] <TimothyA> smw: ..... trigger happy?
[19:08] <smw> lol
[19:08] <TimothyA> I already asked prior why mirror.cc.columbia.edu was down with no response.
[19:09] <smw> TimothyA, ok, so you used to use a custom mirror?
[19:09] <TimothyA> no
[19:09] <TimothyA> this is what came with the installation
[19:09] <smw> TimothyA, please pastebin what is in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:09] <smw> TimothyA, how did you install it?
[19:10] <TimothyA> what's this channel's endeared pastebin?
[19:10] <TimothyA> smw: put in disk. hit install.
[19:10] <TimothyA> http://pastebin.com/1pQcb6ny
[19:10] <smw> TimothyA, I personally use fpaste, I don't know what the channel uses
[19:10] <Xtreme> auronandace, are you here?
[19:11] <smw> TimothyA, was it a special disk?
[19:11] <TimothyA> no
[19:12] <TimothyA> server edition, downloaded from the ubuntu site
[19:12] <smw> TimothyA, There is no reason these should be here
[19:12] <TimothyA> well, they are there
[19:12] <TimothyA> what *should* they be?
[19:13] <smw> one sec
[19:13] <smw> TimothyA, http://fpaste.org/Ewpu/
[19:13] <Psi-Jack> TimothyA: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[19:14] <smw> TimothyA, that is what is on mine. You may want to comment out backports and partner
[19:14] <scott_z> I want to buy a pcmcia card to give my laptop usb 3.0. All the cards I found do not include linux drivers (as i would expect). Can anyone tell me if this would be supported by ubuntu or can anyone recommend a specific card that is known to work? Here is the one I am looking to buy.  http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007TPYKUU/ref=asc_df_B007TPYKUU2136463?smid=ATJ1HHEILSBYQ&tag=dealtmp52156-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395105&creativeASIN=B007TPYKUU
[19:14] <devslash> i used to be able to log into my ssh server using an sftp client and all of a  sudden if i try to upload any files i get an "unspecified error"
[19:14] <gunarm> in mdadm raid6, if one of 6 drives is 5600 rpm instead of 7200 does it bottleneck the whole thing down to that speed?
[19:14] <smw> TimothyA, (although, I like them)
[19:14] <brennan> how do i configure kppp??
[19:15] <smw> TimothyA, can you figure out the rest?
[19:15] <TimothyA> replacing them atm
[19:16] <devslash> can anyone help me
[19:16] <devslash> i used to be able to log into my ssh server using an sftp client and all of a  sudden if i try to upload any files i get an "unspecified error". I've checked the permissions on the folder and they are correct
[19:17] <TimothyA> that seems to workk
[19:18] <nejode> devslash, have you checked available free space un the server's drives?
[19:18] <devslash> oh man no
[19:18] <devslash> youre right
[19:18] <devslash> the disk is full
[19:19] <devslash> besides /tmp is there another location i can delete files to free up space
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> devslash: removing old kernels can help that, as well as run:  sudo apt-get clean    assuming you mean the system partition
[19:20] <devslash> it freed up just a tiny amount of space
[19:20] <nejode> devslash, check out /var/log too
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> devslash: if you run:  uname -a   you will see the running kernel
[19:20] <Moonlightning> Remove packages you don't need?
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> devslash: if you run:  dpkg -l | grep linux-image    you will see the installed kernels
[19:20] <devslash> can i safely remove everything in /var/log
[19:21] <brennan> how do i operate kppp?????????
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> devslash: you can uninstall any kernels you want except the running kernel and the metapackage (one without version numbers in the name)
[19:21] <Moonlightning> devslash: those are just logs. /You/ might want them for some reason, but deleting them won't cause any problems with the system (as far as I know).
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> devslash: could uninstall libreoffice to free space and install bleachbit to free more space
[19:21] <Moonlightning> bleachbit?
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Moonlightning: indeed
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> devslash: run it as both your user then as root and have as many apps closed as possible, avoid commads that state they will take a long time
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> !info bleachbit
[19:22] <Moonlightning> …unless you don't mind waiting a long time. ;)
[19:22] <FreeMansMind> samformat; Intel® IGD x86/MMX/SSE2
[19:23] <devslash> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/MwjS1h56
[19:23] <nabam> hi, I just installed ubuntu on my laptop, wifi doesn't seem to work.  The output of 'rfkill list all' showed that my wifi was hard blocked.  Pressing the wifi button doesn't seem to let me get around this.  My laptop model is compaq prescario cq50-115nr and I'm using ubuntu 10.04 i386
[19:23] <nabam> how can I enable my wifi?
[19:24] <devslash> ActionParsnip: thats the output for dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> devslash: what is the output of:  uname -a
[19:24] <devslash> Linux ubuntu 3.2.0-29-generic-pae #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:25:43 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[19:24] <devslash> can i safely delete the older images in /boot ?
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> devslash: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic-pae linux-image-3.2.0-26-generic-pae linux-image-3.2.0-27-generic-pae
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> devslash: should free up about 400Mb
[19:25] <devslash> 338
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> devslash: close :)
[19:25] <devslash> yea
[19:25] <Moonlightning> nabam: my laptops onboard Wi-Fi didn't work out of the box under Debian, and I think it doesn't work out of the box under Ubuntu, either
[19:25] <devslash> is there anything else i can safely purge
[19:25] <Moonlightning> IIRC, though, it was just a simple `apt-get install` that did it for me. I don't remember what package it was, though 6_9
[19:26] <nabam> I installed the latest compat-wireless drivers
[19:26] <ashi> hi
[19:26] <samfromat> FreeMansMind:'you can check it by 'lspci | grep VGA', it will show you the installed video card.
[19:26] <devslash> ActionParsnip: i only have 711MB free
[19:26] <ashi> anybody want help
[19:27] <tiberio_d> sure, in sound options my hdmi output isn't listed
[19:27] <tiberio_d> if i do aplay -l i get card 1: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
[19:28] <scott_z> devslash: just started folllowing, you might want to delete your browser cache. dont know if someone suggested this or if you already did this. hope this helps
[19:28] <devslash> i don't have a browser cache
[19:28] <devslash> in fact I don't have X installed
[19:28] <scott_z> devslash: sorry worth a try.
[19:28] <devslash> np
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> devslash: install bleachbit and you can free more space, close as many apps as possible
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> devslash: also uninstall apps  you don't use
[19:29] <devslash> whats bleach bit do
[19:30] <tiberio_d> does anyone know why my hdmi sound output wouldn't be listed in sound settings?
[19:31] <nabam> I also tried brining my wireless card up with ifconfig, no luck, I tried rfkill unblock all, still no luck.  The button still doesn't seem to work to enable wireless
[19:31] <cellofellow> devslash: I think what it does is it deletes unneeded files, and it also randomizes your empty space for security.
[19:32] <scott_z> nabam: do you have an internal broadcom card?
[19:33] <nabam> scott_z: atheros, but internal yes
[19:33] <dougl> I just finished doing a sudo tar -cvzf /home/username/archive.tgz /media/olddrives/ and now I try to open/read the file in midnight commander and it does not open... what do you use to backup folders in 12.04?
[19:34] <Moonlightning> tar
[19:34]  * Moonlightning gigglesnickers
[19:35] <dougl> Moonlightning, that is what I thot but will not open in Midnight commander
[19:35] <nabam> dougl: you're still going to have to decompress before mc can read your archive I believe
[19:35] <urlwolf> hat would be the equiv ubuntu packages for our: libx11
[19:35] <urlwolf> …: libx11
[19:35] <devslash> ActionParsnip: does bleach bit use a gui or can it be run from the command line
[19:36] <urlwolf> hat would be the equiv ubuntu packages for archlinux libx11 libxft and freetype2?
[19:36] <scott_z> nabam: I had the same problem when I upgraded my kernel a few versions back. Still have not gotten it to work. Bought a usb wifi and it fixed the problem. I reinstalled with the 12.04 cd and it fixed the problem but the minute i ran all the upgrades it stopped working again. Still working on it. Sorry.
[19:37] <herman_> shouldn't the forums be up already?
[19:37] <gunarm> i cant figure out why my file system is mounted so that I need sudo to mount to it
[19:37] <trism> urlwolf: to compile with? look for the -dev packages, such as libx11-dev libxft-dev libfreetype6-dev
[19:37] <gunarm> sorry wrong
[19:38] <urlwolf> trism: nope, tried that
[19:38] <W4sp> gunarm: Whatever you're trying to express you can edit /etc/fstab...?
[19:38] <gunarm> i cant figure out why my file system is mounted so that I need sudo to write to it.  at first I mounted /dev/md0 to /vault with su, then i made a /vault under /media/vault and mouted it with just sudo, still i cant "echo test > /mount/vault/test.txt"
[19:38] <trism> urlwolf: what are you trying to do?
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> devslash: it has both, you'l see 2 entries in dash for it
[19:39] <urlwolf> trism: trying to compile goomwwm, see: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/go/goomwwm/PKGBUILD
[19:40] <gunarm> W4sp, yes, i can edit it, but this isn't listed there since I just mounted it with mount
[19:40] <FreeMansMind> samfromat this is the result of the code u gave me lspci | grep VGA :  00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation N10 Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[19:40] <devslash> ActionParsnip: i installed it as far as i can tell it uses python and is a guy only app
[19:40] <trism> urlwolf: built fine here
[19:40] <devslash> gui
[19:41] <urlwolf> trism: what did you do? type $make?
[19:41] <trism> urlwolf: yep just make, what error do you get?
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> devslash: checck:  man bleachbit
[19:41] <urlwolf> for me it says: Package xinerama was not found in the pkg-config search path
[19:41] <tiberio_d> does anyone know why my hdmi sound output wouldn't be listed in sound settings? it shows up lspci as "02:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Juniper HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5700 Series]" but in sound settings it's not there, there's only integrated sound card
[19:41] <trism> urlwolf: libxinerama-dev
[19:42] <devslash> ActionParsnip: i did
[19:42] <devslash> the man for bleach bit is very small
[19:42] <urlwolf> trism: thanks!
[19:42] <samfromat> FreeMansMide: It seems you have default intel drivers install for your video card. i think these should work fine.
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> devslash: http://bleachbit.sourceforge.net/documentation/command-line
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> devslash: source: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bleachbit+command+line
[19:45] <FreeMansMind> samfromat well I was not sure cause its like Windows 7 works faster then Ubuntu in this netbook. I am so confused. I am afraid of having something wrong. Like running ubuntu in wrong way or something imported is missing dunno.
[19:46] <threex5> Hi, is there any way to boot Ubuntu in 32/64 bit mode? I want to run from a USB, in 64 bit, but be able to run in 32 bit mode if I'm on a 32 bit computer
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> threex5: there are apps to make multiboot USBs
[19:48] <tiberio_d> if ubuntu on your netbook is too slow you could try Lubuntu
[19:49] <threex5> ActionParsnip, thanks. I would like to have all my folders/settings intact, though
[19:49] <threex5> meaning, I would be booting from a 32 or 64 bit kernel, but the desktop would be the same
[19:49] <threex5> I don't know if that's now it works, though.
[19:50] <jc_> well you can try xubuntu or lubuntu, but it depends of your ram
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> threex5: you could have a common /home partition on the USB which would give settings for both boots...
[19:51] <Moonlightning> I'm…really not sure how to describe this other than “the display is messed up” 6_9
[19:51] <cellofellow> threex5: that'd be the way to do it, but'd it be hard to pull off.
[19:51] <Moonlightning> The…colors are all wrong…and…the whole thing has a sort of grainy quality?…
[19:51] <threex5> Well, ActionParsnip was on to something
[19:51] <auronandace> Moonlightning: screenshots to the rescue!
[19:51] <Moonlightning> I can hardly see any of the graphics, or read any of the text…
[19:51] <fggg> hello
[19:52] <Moonlightning> …ah, yes, of cousre.
[19:52] <threex5> and if I use portable linux apps, I could run them out of the home partition too
[19:52] <amir__> hello
[19:52] <Moonlightning> Hang on.
[19:52] <fggg> I have a problem with wine,can I tell?
[19:52] <Guest9431> yes..
[19:52] <threex5> what do you folks recommend? Is it worth running 64 bit?
[19:52] <auronandace> !wine | fggg
[19:52] <Moonlightning> …agh, how do I take a screenshot?
[19:52] <threex5> I figure if I have a 64 bit desktop and laptop, I'm wasting CPU not to
[19:52] <Guest9431> best gnome distro?
[19:52] <Guest9431> like chkra
[19:52] <FreeMansMind> tiberio_d what is missing in Lubuntu? I mean what makes it work faster?
[19:52] <OerHeks> Moonlight hit the printscreen button
[19:53] <auronandace> threex5: if your hardware supports it then there is little reason not to run 64bit
[19:53] <Moonlightning> Don't have one.
[19:53] <jagginess> anyone has tried desura?
[19:53] <Moonlightning> This is an old PowerBook G4…
[19:53] <Moonlightning> screenshots in OS X are just shift-command-3
[19:53] <OerHeks> Moonlightning, type screenshot in dash
[19:53] <samfromat> :FreeMansMing: There shouldn't be any problem with your video card drivers. tell what problems are you facing.
[19:54] <threex5> auronandace: right. The only reason I can see is that I'm running on a USB stick so I might want to boot off a computer that's not 64, once in a while.
[19:55] <tiberio_d> FreeMansMind Lubuntu uses LXDE instead of GNOME
[19:55] <auronandace> threex5: then you'll want to stick to 32, since it will work on both
[19:55] <fggg> sorry,is there a irc chanell about wine?
[19:55] <fggg> sorry,is there a irc chanell about wine?
[19:55] <FreeMansMind> samfromat; No specific trouble here. It's just acting like Windows, Maybe I dreamed wrong about ubuntu, dunno. I was expecting faster and lighter moves. Folders are not opening faster then Windows can.
[19:55] <auronandace> fggg: #winehq
[19:56] <fggg> always in freenod?
[19:56] <auronandace> fggg: yes, its on freenode
[19:56] <FreeMansMind> its just only faster on starting pc. or shutting down. Rest is acting just like Windows. this is why I am thinking that something might be wrong. dunno
[19:57] <samfromat> FreeMansMind:Thats definitely not a video card issue. how long are you using ubuntu?
[19:58] <skorv> hello
[19:58] <FreeMansMind> samfromat been used old version for a month but the last version is since yesterday
[19:58] <crimsonmane> FreeMansMind: perhaps you need to try a lighter weight desktop environment. unity is fairly heavy.
[19:59] <xuserr> hello
[19:59] <Moonlightning> The screenshot doesn't seem to reflect the issue, except for the wallpaper.
[20:00] <Moonlightning> Which…is that /supposed/ to be like that?…
[20:00] <threex5> auronandace: how much of a performance hit do you take running 32 bit ubuntu on a 64 bit machine?
[20:00] <skorv> strugling with full disk encryption and dual boot dont know where to install grub (cannot be /dev/sda)
[20:00] <threex5> I don't really see the difference
[20:00] <Moonlightning> In any case, just imagine the /whole thing/ looks like the wallpaper. XD
[20:00] <Moonlightning> hang on…
[20:00] <threex5> but I don't know what I'm looking for either
[20:00] <samfromat> FreeMansMide: as crimsonmane told you, use another envionment or in my opinion try other ubuntu derivatives, best choice maybe something like linux mint.
[20:00] <tiberio_d> the main difference with 32 bit os on 64 bit computer would be ram limit
[20:01] <xuserr> does anyone know a alternative to tor,browser? a program used to change ip for linux ?
[20:01] <auronandace> threex5: i think it depends on what you are doing, everyday use i would say is negligable
[20:01] <xuserr> tor browser*
[20:01] <Moonlightning> xuserr: there are TOR clients for Linux
[20:01] <FreeMansMind> crimsonmane: shall I try Gnome?
[20:01] <TaJMoX> Does anyone here use rhythmbox with a mp3 player (not Android or iPod) ?
[20:02] <xuserr> i want another program like tor
[20:02] <threex5> ok. The most resource-intensive thing I would run on it would be gimp
[20:02] <threex5> if that gives you any idea
[20:02] <crimsonmane> FreeMansMind: Lubuntu
[20:02] <threex5> The most ambitious think I would like to do with it is run Reaper through wine
[20:02] <auronandace> threex5: then you won't notice a difference
[20:02] <threex5> but I use 32 bit reaper anyway
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> xuserr: could use a vpn
[20:02] <threex5> ok
[20:02] <FreeMansMind> samfromat can I do anything with mint that I do in ubuntu?
[20:02] <crimsonmane> you can do anything on mint that you can do in ubuntu
[20:03] <xuserr> ActionParsnip: xuserr: could use a vpn ?
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> xuserr: why do you need tor?
[20:03] <threex5> great I'm glad I asked. I'm looking at the ubuntu website now and getting mixed messages about installing to USB
[20:03] <xuserr> yes
[20:03] <Mothra> How do I fix the promisions on my ubuntu account I have some files that I do not have promissions for even after running chown command of the entire home folder in terminal as sudo anyone able to help me
[20:03] <threex5> Can I not simply burn a disc, boot from it, then install my partitions to usb like I would any other drive?
[20:03] <crimsonmane> Mothra: you're not supposed to run chown like that. you broke it. reinstall.
[20:04] <xuserr> my ip is banned on some irc networks
[20:04] <auronandace> threex5: yes
[20:04] <samfromat> FreeMansMind:You can do everything with mint. in fact you can do anything in every linux distro.
[20:04] <FreeMansMind> Can't disable Unity?
[20:04] <xuserr> so i want a program to change my ip
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> FreeMansMind: install a different shell or desktop and it won't be loaded
[20:04] <crimsonmane> FreeMansMind: log out, click the gear icon next to your name, and select 2d mode
[20:04] <Moonlightning> Imagine the /entire/ screen has an overlay like the wallpaper here: http://cl.ly/IqDo
[20:05] <macmartine> How do I keep ubuntu from emailing the admin email with certain log messages? It keeps emailing me for some things that I want to ignore
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> hm
[20:05] <auronandace> threex5: make sure you select the right drive to put the bootloader on too
[20:05] <FreeMansMind> let me try
[20:06] <graingert> is there an application that shows all the GTK widgets?
[20:06] <graingert> as a test page
[20:06] <Mothra> crimsonmane how do I fix my promissions then?
[20:06] <FreeMansMind> before doing this is there a TAsk Mgr that I can see CPU and RAM usages
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> FreeMansMind: htop or top
[20:07] <samfromat> FreeMansMind: yes, System Monitor shows that.
[20:08] <crimsonmane> Mothra: reinstall. i am sorry, there's no other way
[20:08] <Mothra> What is the package called?
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> FreeMansMind, what desktop do you want?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> FreeMansMind: if you install Xubuntu, Kubuntu or Lubuntu it won't even be installed
[20:08] <Advocated> Anyone aware of any software to allow iphone/appstore development on ubuntu?
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> FreeMansMind: free -m    will show RAM
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> FreeMansMind: top -n 1    will show CPU
[20:10] <FreeMansMind> Well it uses between %35 - 45 of CPU
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> FreeMansMind: LXDE is super light, as is XFCE
[20:12] <linda> ciao
[20:12] <Moonlightning> O.o
[20:12] <FreeMansMind> ActionParsnip:  what do u mean with: FreeMansMind: if you install Xubuntu, Kubuntu or Lubuntu it won't even be installed
[20:12] <linda> !list
[20:12] <Mothra> crimsonmane what is the package called and will reinstalling chown fix  my issue?
[20:12] <Num83rGuy> I removed pulse audio and now use ALSA because pulse was giving me lots of problems.  I now don't have sound in Chrome. Does any one know how to fix this?
[20:12] <crimsonmane> Mothra: i mean reinstall your ubuntu
[20:12] <Moonlightning> Mothra: `chown` is a coreutil
[20:13] <raven> how to mount partitions of a raw diskdump?
[20:13] <graingert> Num83rGuy: install pulse audio
[20:13] <Moonlightning> If you don't have a `chown`, I don't know what to tell you. XD
[20:13] <Moonlightning> Try `/bin/chown` and double-check your $PATH?
[20:13] <Mothra> crimsonmane I can reinstall but how will that correct my promission of files in my home folder
[20:13] <Num83rGuy> graingert: Ha, ha.
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> FreeMansMind, Those releases can be installed by themselves by downloading their ISO's
[20:14] <crimsonmane> Mothra: i suppose you can delete your user account and create a new one... that would be faster
[20:14] <graingert> Num83rGuy: seriously pulse is basically hot to do audio
[20:14] <Moonlightning> Deleting an account to change permissions? O.o
[20:14] <Moonlightning> Did I miss something?
[20:14] <Mothra> no
[20:14] <Mothra> moonlightning
[20:14] <Mothra> Im not deleting personal files
[20:14] <crimsonmane> i chown'd his entire home folder
[20:14]  * Moonlightning blinks
[20:14] <crimsonmane> not i... i meant he
[20:15] <Moonlightning> Um, `chown` it back? XD
[20:15] <Moonlightning> `chown -R $USER ~`
[20:15] <Mothra> someone told me to on this irc
[20:15] <graingert> s/hot/how/
[20:15] <crimsonmane> a month ago someone chown'd his entire system. BORKED it.
[20:15] <Moonlightning> 6_9
[20:15] <cellofellow> heh, no kidding
[20:16] <cellofellow> *nix, especially when root, gives you a lot of rope to hang yourself.
[20:16] <Num83rGuy> graingert: There are lots of ways to do audio on linux and there are several recent distros thay don't use pulse and work perfectly fine.
[20:16] <Mothra> so just because some personal files are in the promission of some non established account I cant correct them I have to reinstall the entire opperating system again
[20:16] <Moonlightning> Doesn't make sense to me. ^
[20:16] <graingert> Num83rGuy: it's the way to do audio on ubuntu
[20:16] <Mothra> that seems like a huge hassle
[20:16] <graingert> anything else isn't supported
[20:16] <FreeMansMind> well then I should ask a final question. if I install Lubuntu Xbuntu or Kubuntu will they work much faster and with much less RAM and CPU usage when I even run a video in youtube. Or run a couple of program at the same time or open like 10 websites atm.
[20:16] <Moonlightning> Mothra: you can `chown` things owned by a nonexistent account
[20:17] <Moonlightning> Just like you would `chown` anything else.
[20:17] <cellofellow> Mothra: add a new account, an Administrator account, log into that and sudo chown -R youruser ~youruser.
[20:17] <cellofellow> then you can delete the old account
[20:17] <cellofellow> s/old/new/
[20:17] <FreeMansMind> Will be a markable difference between unity and the other one?
[20:17] <Num83rGuy> graingert: Not with my hardware and software setup on my computer, thank you.
[20:18] <graingert> no probley
[20:18] <Mothra> cellofellow by youruser do you mean of the old account or the account I just made to run that command on
[20:18] <graingert> you're welcome
[20:18] <cellofellow> Mothra: old account
[20:18] <samfromat> FreeMansMind: In linux world you can't blindly predict anything but one thing is sure that lxde or xfce will work smoother than unity.
[20:18] <Mothra> the non existant account?
[20:19] <trism> graingert: we have thewidgetfactory in the repo, but it is gtk2 only, https://github.com/valr/awf is a fork for both gtk2 and gtk3
[20:19] <Moonlightning> Mothra: let my clarify that.
[20:19] <cellofellow> Mothra: is that account still in /etc/passwd?
[20:19] <Mothra> its marked as 1001-user#1001
[20:19] <cellofellow> grep 1001 /etc/passwd
[20:19] <Mothra> how do I check?
[20:19] <Dr_Willis> each user has a uid and gid. the files owned by a nonexisting user will show a number in the owner field.
[20:19] <Mothra> cellowfellow
[20:19] <raven> how to decompile  c binaries?
[20:19] <Moonlightning> If your account is called mothra, make a new account (we'll call it new), log into the new account, do `sudo chown -R mothra ~mothra`, then delete 'new'
[20:19] <cellofellow> Mothra: grep 1001 /etc/passwd
[20:19] <FreeMansMind> samfromat just wondering why so many people choosing ubuntu instead of another version that works with lxde. I can not figure it out cause I am so lost about Linux and new
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> lxde is limited and simplufied in some areas
[20:20] <crimsonmane> FreeMansMind: it's due to lack of being informed.
[20:21] <Dr_Willis> you can install both feskyops if you want
[20:21] <Mothra> cellowfellow that command did nothing, after I run that command can I just take control of the files on my new account?
[20:21] <Mothra> @Moonlightning
[20:21] <cellofellow> Mothra: which did nothing, grep or chown?
[20:21] <Mothra> grep
[20:21] <cellofellow> Mothra: ok, user 1001, whichever it was, is deleted. It needs to be added back.
[20:21] <Moonlightning> Mothra: can you use `sudo` from your current account?
[20:22] <Moonlightning> Mothra: if you can, all this other stuff is completely unnecessary.
[20:22] <Mothra> moonlightning I used it with sudo
[20:22] <Mothra> and my account is adminstrative
[20:22] <Moonlightning> sudo chown $USER ~
[20:22] <Moonlightning> whoops
[20:22] <Moonlightning> sudo chown -R $USER ~
[20:22] <Moonlightning> ^ that should fix it
[20:22] <FreeMansMind> crimsonmane so deleting ubuntu and installing lubuntu or linux mint instead not like deleting Windows 7 and installing WIndows XP to make netbook work faster? Its not installing something less nicer right?
[20:22] <graingert> trism: I need it for quantal :(
[20:22] <Moonlightning> I don't know what all this other stuff is about :V
[20:22] <samfromat> FreeMansMind: if you have noticed, lots of ubuntu users were unhappy with unity interface(including me). but the thing is unity can work out of the box with sufficient ram and video card. and its just the personel interest. you have to try everything and then stick with something that works nice for you.
[20:23] <cellofellow> Mothra: you may need to sudo adduser --uid 1001 youruser yourgroup
[20:23] <cellofellow> if it's not in /etc/passwd
[20:23] <Dr_Willis> i use unity on this box. the wife uses lxde
[20:23] <crimsonmane> FreeMansMind: if you do mint, you need LXDE
[20:23] <trism> graingert: it doesn't build on quantal?
[20:23] <xangua> (15:20:29) Dr_Willis: lxde is limited and simplufied in some areas - also a 'netbook' is very limited in resources FreeMansMind
[20:23] <graingert> trism: PPA :*
[20:23] <crimsonmane> FreeMansMind: whatever you do, go with LXDE spin of that distro
[20:23] <graingert> :(*
[20:24] <trism> graingert: oh I just built it, it is pretty straightforward and you don't need to install it
[20:24] <Moonlightning> cellofellow: is that /realy/ necessary?
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> xangua: unity runs well on my 2netbooks
[20:24] <cellofellow> Moonlightning: probably not
[20:24] <FreeMansMind> ok but wich one :)
[20:24] <Moonlightning> cellofellow: then why are you saying to do it? :V
[20:24] <FreeMansMind> Lubuntu or Mint or Kubuntu wich is the best
[20:24] <crimsonmane> FreeMansMind: try. them. ALL.
[20:24] <Moonlightning> …you know what, I'm just going to test this.
[20:24] <xangua> Dr_Willis: unity runs well on my 4 years old notebook :) no idea why people say it's slow
[20:24] <cellofellow> Moonlightning: I was confused, figured it out.
[20:24] <FreeMansMind> crimsonmane do they all work in USB Drive to test?
[20:24] <Moonlightning> Okay, here we go.
[20:25] <cellofellow> Mothra: what's your current $UID? (echo $UID)
[20:25] <crimsonmane> FreeMansMind: yes.
[20:25] <Mothra> so I should run the command sudo chown -R $USER ~ with my current user account or with a new one or with the old one that doesnt seem to exist
[20:25] <Dr_Willis> FreeMansMind:  yiu can install the ubuntu.lubuntu and kubuntu desktops on a single install and easially switch
[20:25] <dgsafewright> I am running 12.04  on a macbook pro 8.1
[20:25] <Moonlightning> Mothra: just run that command, no need to do anything else.
[20:25] <Moonlightning> sudo chown -R $USER ~
[20:25] <Mothra> @Moonlightning 1000
[20:25] <Moonlightning> You should be able to direct copypasta it.
[20:25] <dgsafewright> runs better than osx and its supported until 2017...
[20:25] <FreeMansMind> Dr_Willis:  how?
[20:25] <cellofellow> Mothra: I'm with Moonlightning. I'll leave him to help, as I seem to be gumming things up.
[20:26] <graingert> trism: I'm too lasy to compile
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> same as you install anything else.. the pavkage manager
[20:26] <Dr_Willis> FreeMansMind: lubuntu-desktop for lubuntu
[20:26] <dgsafewright> Dr._Willis what are you asking how about?
[20:26] <FreeMansMind> It will ask me to install it alingside to Windows and Ubuntu?
[20:26] <crimsonmane> FreeMansMind: even better, you can sudo-apt-get lxde-desktop
[20:26] <Moonlightning> Okay.
[20:26] <crimsonmane> or whatever the package is called
[20:26] <Moonlightning> I just tested this.
[20:26] <FreeMansMind> and shrink the partition?
[20:26] <Moonlightning> For the record…
[20:27] <Mothra> @moonlightning says 'sudo chown -R $USER' after running chown: missing operand after `stevesenior'
[20:27] <Mothra> Try `chown --help' for more information.
[20:27] <FreeMansMind> crimsonmane: shall i type it now in terminal?
[20:27] <Moonlightning> Mothra: `sudo chown -R $USER ~`
[20:27] <Moonlightning> missing the tilde at the end
[20:27] <dgsafewright> FreeMansMind you can either wipe your existing OS and use ubuntu or install ubuntu alongside your existing os
[20:27] <Mothra> sorry about the mistake moonlightning
[20:28] <Moonlightning> FOR THE RECORD: If you make an account, `chown` a regular file to that account, then delete the account, you can STILL `chown` the file back. There is NO NEED to recreate the old account, delete ANYTHING, and CERTAINLY not to reinstall all of Ubuntu.
[20:28] <Mothra> @moonlightning getting output, chown: cannot access `/home/stevesenior/.gvfs': Permission denied
[20:28] <FreeMansMind> What I really hate with ubuntu is this heavy feeling when it opens folders and etc but the most thing I hate is the LAuncher BAr
[20:28] <Moonlightning> Mothra: with `sudo`?
[20:28] <Mothra> yes
[20:28]  * Moonlightning blinks
[20:28] <Dr_Willis> !dock | FreeMansMind
[20:28] <Psi-Jack> FreeMansMind: So, what you're saying is, you don't like Unity.
[20:29] <crimsonmane> FreeMansMind: we're currently in Ubuntu's IRC channel, and i do not wish to disrespect their distro by suggesting Linux Mint LXDE to you, but i might have done exactly that.
[20:29] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu is easy to install on ubuntu
[20:29] <crimsonmane> FreeMansMind: didyou even try logging out and switching to Unity 2D
[20:29] <crimsonmane> ?
[20:29] <dgsafewright> you have the choice to use different desktop environments
[20:29] <FreeMansMind> crimsonmane:  I will try it all with USB drive.
[20:30] <FreeMansMind> crimsonmane:  no will try now but what is this sudo-apt-get lxde-desktop
[20:30] <FreeMansMind> I wanted to ask before i do
[20:30] <crimsonmane> FreeMansMind: forget that command. don't do it.
[20:30] <dgsafewright> sudo means root
[20:30] <FreeMansMind> ok
[20:30] <crimsonmane> just try 2D mode first
[20:30] <crimsonmane> and come back to us and talk
[20:30] <Moonlightning> Mothra: `ls -ld ~/.gvfs`
[20:30] <dgsafewright> apt-get is ubuntu's command to install
[20:30] <Psi-Jack> heh
[20:30] <Psi-Jack> "2D" mode, yeah.. Still sucks.
[20:30] <dgsafewright> and lxde-desktop is the lxde desktop environment
[20:31] <FreeMansMind> Ok brb then i will try those dock that Dr_Willis  mentioned
[20:31] <Mothra> Moonlightning ls: cannot access /home/stevesenior/.gvfs: Permission denied
[20:31] <SecretFire> is there a way to tell through terminal what kind of connection interface my hdd is?
[20:31] <graingert> crimsonmane FreeMansMind: there will be no Unity 2D in the next version
[20:31] <Mothra> Moonlightning I was using sudo
[20:31] <Moonlightning> `sudo ls -ld ~/.gvfs` gives you permission-denied?
[20:32] <Psi-Jack> graingert: Hmmm, before wayland stabilizes? Worst idea in history.
[20:32] <Mothra> moonlightning yes
[20:32] <graingert> Psi-Jack: not my idea
[20:33] <Psi-Jack> graingert: Yeah... Still the worst idea in history. And I support a lot of what Canonical does, with the exceptions of Unity.
[20:34] <Dr_Willis> wayland is not in the next release default either
[20:34] <brennan> how do you run a dos/windows executable file???
[20:34] <Moonlightning> Mothra: if you're getting a permission-denied as root, I honestly don't know what to tell you…
[20:34] <Moonlightning> Is this ~/.gvfs important to you at all?
[20:34] <Psi-Jack> brennan: dosemu, for dos, wine for Windows.
[20:34] <Mothra> @moonlightning I dont know what .gvfs is to be honest
[20:34] <brennan> how do i do wine?
[20:34] <Psi-Jack> brennan: aptitude install wine
[20:35] <Moonlightning> Ignore the error for now, maybe ask about it later?
[20:35] <Moonlightning> Did you get any other errors?
[20:35] <Psi-Jack> brennan: For further help on wine beyond that, #winehq is your channel.
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> use agt-get instead of aptitude  these days
[20:35] <Advocated> Anyone aware of any software to allow iphone/appstore development on ubuntu?
[20:35] <Psi-Jack> Dr_Willis: Not according to Debian devs.
[20:35] <brennan> Psi-Jack, do i have to do anything besides what your telling me?
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> this is not debian
[20:35] <Psi-Jack> Dr_Willis: you be backwards. ;)
[20:35] <Moonlightning> Advocated: as far as I know, you have to use Xcode.
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> !aptitude
[20:36] <OerHeks> Psi-Jack, only when you run 64 bit, aptitude wrecks your system
[20:36] <Moonlightning> If there's an Xcode port for Ubuntu, great. If not, I guess you're out of luck.
[20:36] <FreeMansMind> crimsonmane:  I am back. 2D look very simple to me... CPU usage wasnt so different. It was about %20
[20:36] <Moonlightning> There's probably something somewhere to get them to expand to Linux, though. Try googling it?
[20:36] <Mothra> Moonlightning are you talking to me when you are refering to getting other error? That is the only output I have gotten from the commands I have run
[20:36] <Advocated> Moonlightning, how about virtualbox type thing with osx on? or same problems?
[20:37] <Moonlightning> Mothra: you should be fine, then, I guess, except for that one directory|file.
[20:37] <FreeMansMind> I may like ubuntu more with different dock maybe. Dr_Willis  would you please tell me again?
[20:37] <brennan> Psi-Jack, do i have to do anything besides what your telling me?
[20:37] <AndreP> Hello all, i maight need a little bit n00b help, but im fucking my brains in this
[20:37] <Dr_Willis> !dock
[20:37] <Moonlightning> Advocated: sure, VirtualBox should work, since it'd be running under OS X.
[20:37] <Psi-Jack> brennan: As I said, for Wine support, your channel is #winehq
[20:38] <endafy> hey I need some help, sometimes when watching videos, it will sort of freeze the audio will skip and then catch up to itself
[20:38] <endafy> how do I fix this
[20:38] <endafy> does it with mp3s too
[20:38] <Psi-Jack> endafy: Guessing, Flash videos on websites?
[20:38] <endafy> flash too but no system level
[20:38] <Mothra> @moonlightning yeah i see my promissions are fixed :) thank you but what is .gvfs it worries me that there is a file in my directory that not even root can touch
[20:38] <FreeMansMind> Dr_Willis:  I search them in Software center or google?
[20:39] <endafy> like I try to play an episode of lost
[20:39] <Psi-Jack> endafy: Have you updated to the latest updates 100% to date?
[20:39] <endafy> its an avi
[20:39] <AndreP> This is my question, i need a complete install of Ubuntu, i installed it through USB but made some mistakes in the Username, Computer Name and screwed already, and i want to reinstall again Ubuntu from the start... But when i acess the Boot Menu of BIOS, i choose USB, and instead of loading the Ubuntu Started (The one who lets you choose what to do), he goes straight to the OS and enters it...
[20:39] <AndreP> How can i do, to start the install of Ubuntu 12 again, from the start? Thanks
[20:39] <Moonlightning> Mothra: I honestly don't know. Try googling it?
[20:39] <endafy> yes
[20:39] <Moonlightning> Or maybe Ask Ubuntu?…
[20:39] <Mothra> @moonlightning I will :) thanks again for the help
[20:39]  * Moonlightning yells to the channel in general. “Hay! Anyone know what ~/.gvfs is?!”
[20:39] <Psi-Jack> Moonlightning: Gnome Virtual FileSystem
[20:39]  * Moonlightning introduces Mothra to Psi-Jack and steps out.
[20:40] <zykotick9> Moonlightning: Gnome Virtual File System (fuse-related)
[20:40] <endafy> it skips in games like secret maryo chronicles
[20:40] <Moonlightning> Mothra: there's your answer, I guess… XD
[20:40] <endafy> skips whenever media is played
[20:40] <endafy> its really starting to bug the crap out of me
[20:41] <Mothra>  Thanks Moonlightning :) you are awesome
[20:41] <Moonlightning> You're welcome. ^^
[20:41] <Moonlightning> As far as I know, reinstalling the OS is only for /very extreme/ cases.
[20:41] <AndreP> anyone may help me? its really simple, but i cant find answer for it anywhere
[20:41] <crimsonmane> endafy: what are your computer specs?
[20:42] <Moonlightning> As you've seen today, not even a borked-up `chown` on your home dir is cause for a reinstall. ;)
[20:42] <threex5> Is it OK to format /home as fat32? I would like to be able to get to this partition if I plug my usb into a windows machine
[20:42] <OerHeks> AndreP, insert cd, boot from it, and install starts again.
[20:42] <Psi-Jack> AndreP: Do you know what a partition is?
[20:42] <endafy> intel core i7, asus m8x, 24gig ram, 2tb 10krpm sata 3 6gb hdd
[20:42] <endafy> nvidia gtx 680 ti
[20:42] <AndreP> Yes
[20:42] <Psi-Jack> AndreP: Do you know what a disk partition is?
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> Moonlightning: gvfs is the folder where things like remote server get mounted to
[20:43] <AndreP> you're not understanding, i insert the USB again, and choose on BOOT menu the USB... But instead the menu to install the OS, it starts the OS! and goes to desktop! :/
[20:43] <Psi-Jack> AndreP: I'm understanding perfectly fine.
[20:43] <Moonlightning> Mothra: ~/.gvfs is the folder where things like remote server get mounted to [from ActionParsnip]
[20:43] <AndreP> okay, awesome :) so what can i do?
[20:43] <Psi-Jack> AndreP: Is this Ubuntu Server, or Ubuntu Desktop?
[20:43] <Guest98234> hello, how do I install a deb.run file
[20:43] <AndreP> Desktop! ;)
[20:43] <Psi-Jack> AndreP: So your system isn't booting off the USB, then.
[20:44] <Psi-Jack> AndreP: Go into BIOS, change boot order to include USB over HDD and/or CD, boot USB.
[20:44] <theDboy> I have seen *.deb files
[20:44] <theDboy> but this is the first time I have come across a deb.run file
[20:44] <AndreP> Yes, it booted when i unnistalled windows 7 for a complete clean install of Ubuntu 12... after 10 minutes i screwed up and i want to reeinstall the Ubuntu... i did exactly the same thing, but instead of entering the Menu of installing, like the first time, it goes straight to the OS
[20:44] <crimsonmane> Moonlightning: reinstall would have been faster, just sayin.
[20:45] <AndreP> ok, will try it again
[20:45] <theDboy> I tried Gdebi and commanline sh, but no dice
[20:45] <theDboy> any ideas?
[20:45] <Moonlightning> crimsonmane: I don't see how reinstalling is faster than `sudo chown -R $USER ~` :P
[20:45] <crimsonmane> Moonlightning: it was when he was here for an hour
[20:46] <Moonlightning> crimsonmane: installing Ubuntu took more than an hour for me
[20:46] <crimsonmane> takes me ten minutes
[20:46] <AndreP> USB is first, but he seems to ignore it, and enters in the OS and goes to the Desktop
[20:46] <Moonlightning> And I think most of that hour was people giving him misinformation. >.>
[20:46] <Psi-Jack> AndreP: Then the USB is damaged causing it to fail to boot.
[20:46] <Mothra> moonlight thanks for clearing that up so I need'nt worry about it
[20:46] <Moonlightning> You're welcome *chuckles*
[20:47] <AndreP> that would be possible, if i havnt used it 10 minutes ago to install the Ubuntu XD
[20:47] <AndreP> is there any other thing that may be causing this?
[20:48] <Psi-Jack> AndreP: I have already just told you what's wrong.
[20:48] <Mothra>  thanks everyone for the help it is really apperciated :) bye all
[20:48] <arooni-mobile> hi folks;  ive been trying for hours to duplicate a simple HTTP POST request over HTTPS for website login that i can make with command line curl (it works).  when i try with http-client (ruby lib) it doesnt log me in.  obviously theres something different about the requests... how can i see what the difference is?
[20:48] <AndreP> okay :) thank you, will try to install again BOOT in the pen, or try with another Pen ;)
[20:48] <Psi-Jack> AndreP: You should /completely/ erase the USB disk, do a full format on it, wipe it, and re-install the Ubuntu Desktop images to it as you did before.
[20:48] <AndreP> thank you :)
[20:49] <AndreP> okay, will do it :) thank you ;)
[20:50] <arooni-mobile> hahaha nevermind; solved it!  i was POSTing to the wrong URL!!! stupid arooni-mobile !!!
[20:50] <Psi-Jack> AndreP: Now, the better question is. If you installed Ubuntu 10 minutes ago, why are you trying to do so again, immediately after?
[20:50] <crimsonmane> Psi-Jack: he borked the username stuff
[20:51] <Psi-Jack> That doesn't require a reinstall.
[20:51] <crimsonmane> nope
[20:51] <AndreP> Because i want to change the Username, PC Name and the Password
[20:51] <crimsonmane> useradd or adduser
[20:51] <crimsonmane> "man useradd"
[20:51] <brennan> Psi-Jack, what am i supposed to do with wine?
[20:51] <theDboy> could I just change the name form deb.run to just .deb?
[20:51] <Psi-Jack> AndreP: Fix the USB disk, and use it to boot into recovery mode, instead of reinstalling.
[20:51] <Psi-Jack> brennan: As I said, for Wine support, your channel is #winehq
[20:51] <crimsonmane> Psi-Jack: he doesn't even need to do that
[20:51] <AndreP> yeah, im already fixing the USB, will do all from the beggining
[20:52] <crimsonmane> AndreP: reboot, hold the shift key until you get the gub, and select recovery
[20:52] <Psi-Jack> AndreP: Okay. Please do not ask for help when you don't want help. Good day.
[20:52] <theDboy> flood bot it out
[20:52] <theDboy> feel me
[20:52] <AndreP> Psi-Jack, im completly geting missunderstood! Im just doing what you said, im fixing the USB for installing again (just like you said), man thank you (and im not beeing ironic!)
[20:53] <gunarm> is ironic the same thing as sarcastic?
[20:53] <Psi-Jack> AndreP: No, I understand you perfectly. YOU are just refusing to learn and do things correctly.
[20:53] <brennan>  what am i supposed to do with wine?
[20:53] <brennan>  what am i supposed to do with wine?
[20:53] <Psi-Jack> brennan: As I said, for Wine support, your channel is #winehq
[20:53] <AndreP> sorry if that was what i looked, but that could not be more far from the truth
[20:53] <AndreP> i needed help, that why i came here
[20:54] <AndreP> you gave me a solution wich is fixing the USB, and thats what im trying to do right now ;) after i test it again, i'll give my feedback ;)
[20:54] <Psi-Jack> AndreP: No, don't. I don't care to help someone ignoring the help.
[20:55] <gunarm> I have my mdadm raid6 array at /dev/md0 and I can't get it mounted where I can write to it, i have tried manual mount, as well as putting it in fstab, either way, it mounts, but I cannot write to it, even with sudo it says permission denied.  any suggestions?
[20:55] <Psi-Jack> gunarm: What filesystem is /dev/md0?
[20:55] <gunarm> ext4
[20:56] <AndreP> Psi-Jack: Im not ignoring someone's help... im just trying to follow the instructions you gave me... Fixing the USB wasn't what you said? Man, we're completly missunderstanding each other :/
[20:56] <brennan> Psi-Jack, no one is tlaking in winehq
[20:56] <Psi-Jack> AndreP: You asked the wrong questions, and when corrected after being verbally beaten for them, you ignored the corrected instructions, and don't care to. Bye. We're done here.
[20:57] <Psi-Jack> brennan: Not #ubuntu's problem.
[20:57] <Psi-Jack> brennan: Learn patience.
[20:57] <Psi-Jack> gunarm: Hmmm.. That makes no sense.
[20:58] <brennan> Psi-Jack, i know that its not ubuntus problem thats why i told you
[20:58] <Psi-Jack> brennan: This channel is #ubuntu.
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> brennan: what is yo0ur issue
[20:59] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: wine
[20:59] <Psi-Jack> He's already been told to take it to #winegq
[20:59] <Psi-Jack> hq*
[21:00] <Dr_Willis> learning how to use wine?
[21:00] <Moonlightning> Okay, I have a couple of actual Ubuntu issues. One is that my display is…messed up. I'm not sure how to describe it, other than the /entire/ thing looks like the wallpaper in http://cl.ly/IqDo .
[21:00] <Dr_Willis> or a specific issue?
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> brennan: what in specific do you wnat to know?
[21:01] <gunarm> Psi-Jack, does this contribute anything useful? http://pastebin.com/7NVfeVvK
[21:02] <Psi-Jack> gunarm: Hmmm, no. All looks normal. What about dmesg | grep md0
[21:02] <bro0> hello
[21:02] <bro0> is anyone else having problems installing grub to intel software raid
[21:03] <Psi-Jack> bro0: Software RAID? Or Fake Raid? Sounds more like fake raid.
[21:03] <Psi-Jack> And If so, you shouldn't install grub to such things.
[21:03] <brennan> ActionParsnip, i need to know how to run a Dos/windows executable file?
[21:04] <bro0> Psi-Jack: i have a raid 0 i want to install mint on. somehow the grub installation fails all the time
[21:04] <Dr_Willis> wine foo.exe
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> brennan: the file neds t be marked as executable. I suggest uou check the appdb for compatibility before you start
[21:04] <gunarm> Psi-Jack, http://pastebin.com/mDsPZFVx
[21:04] <bro0> but currently no one knows a solution in mint chat
[21:04]  * crimsonmane admits he doesn't even know what RAID is... is that where you have a PCI card that your HDD's plug into?
[21:05] <Psi-Jack> gunarm: And the output of mount | grep md0?
[21:05] <tiberio_d> raid is two hard disks mirroring data or something
[21:05] <mauk> crimsonmane: check wikipedia...
[21:05] <brennan> whats an appdb? and i did make the file executable in properties
[21:05] <bro0> 00:1f.2 RAID bus controller: Intel Corporation 82801 SATA Controller [RAID mode] (rev 05)
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> crimsonmane: i suggest you research, its very cool :)
[21:05] <Psi-Jack> tiberio_d: Incorrect.
[21:05] <brennan> ActionParsnip, ^
[21:05] <Psi-Jack> bro0: That's FAKE raid.
[21:05] <geirha> crimsonmane: raid is when you combine two or more disks to act as one disk
[21:05] <Psi-Jack> bro0: And again, you should not be installing grub to such things.
[21:05] <tiberio_d> actually i'm right
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> brennan: search and you will find. I promise
[21:05] <tiberio_d> i said it's something and it is
[21:05] <Psi-Jack> tiberio_d: No, actually, you are not right.
[21:05] <bro0> Psi-Jack: well i dont have any other besides some usb stick xD
[21:05] <tiberio_d> so it isn't anything? ok
[21:06]  * crimsonmane doesn't see the point to RAID
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> brennan: if the file is stored on an NTFS partition you cannot change the access on the fly, nor can you just run apps installed in Windows in a dual boot
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> crimsonmane: you get redundancy. If one drive fails the data is still accessible
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> crimsonmane: there is a LOT of point to raid#
[21:06] <Psi-Jack> bro0: Buy a new HDD, or carve out a boot partition and RAID the rest, and better yet, do not use FAKE raid at all. Use mdadm at best.
[21:06] <gunarm> Psi-Jack, http://pastebin.com/yp1tMjmc
[21:06] <brennan> ok i will stop trying ActionParsnip
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> crimsonmane: if you have oly one drive and it dies, the server is toast
[21:07] <Toph2> ActionParsnip,,, to have total redundancy, how many drives do you need?
[21:07] <bro0> what is mdadm? i was using win7 on this machine so far
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Toph2: define 'total redundancy'
[21:07] <geirha> crimsonmane: One type of raid, is when you have two harddrives mirroring each other. They'll act as one disk, both disks will contain the same data. So, when one disk fails, you can simply replace it without losing any data.
[21:07] <bro0> does ubuntu come with it?
[21:07] <Psi-Jack> bro0: mdadm is Linux's software RAIDE.
[21:07] <Psi-Jack> -E
[21:07]  * crimsonmane now sees RAID as a server thing, and wonders if there's a point to using it at home.
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | brennan
[21:07] <Toph2> ActionParsnip,,, well, assuming you lose 1 drive, and still retain all your data
[21:07] <gunarm> crimsonmane, depends how hardcore you are with your stuff at home
[21:08] <Shinobi> can someone tell me how to replace unity with gnome 3. All the articles on the web I've read don't work.
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> crimsonmane: you cn use raid0 (which isn't actually raid, it just uses the same technology) to use 2 drives to make one logical volume for speed
[21:08]  * crimsonmane has seen a server tower with HDD bays that can be removed without shutting down the computer. liked it lots. 
[21:08] <zykotick9> !notunity | Shinobi
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> Toph2: at least 2 in raid1
[21:08] <Psi-Jack> crimsonmane: I run 4 6 servers at home, plus 2 backup NAS units.
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> Shinobi: in 12.04 ?
[21:08] <Toph2> ActionParsnip,,, ok
[21:08] <crimsonmane> Psi-Jack: you have quite a library of media then, dont ya
[21:09] <Psi-Jack> crimsonmane: No, 4 servers run as my hypervisors for servers. the 2 remaining are SAN servers.
[21:09] <Psi-Jack> Which provide the disks for the hypervisors.
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> Toph2: as the drives are identical, the single drive will then be the only active drive, once you replac it the data will be copied over (rebuilt) then become active
[21:09] <bro0> Psi-Jack: what do you mean by carving out some boot partition
[21:09] <Psi-Jack> bro0: I meant exactly what I said.
[21:09] <bro0> how would you exactly partition the drives in my case?
[21:09] <Shinobi> yeah 12.04
[21:09] <Shinobi> what's with the ! before packages?
[21:09] <bro0> (2x2 tbyte) raid 0
[21:09] <Toph2> ActionParsnip,,, ok, but Raid1 will speed up data retrieval, will it?
[21:10] <Psi-Jack> bro0: In simpleton, make a 200 MB partition, at the beginning of the drive, and the rest, do with as you wish, RAID it, LVM on top of RAID, etc.
[21:10] <Shinobi> Ubuntu shell only seems to install the fallback... there  seems to be no difference.
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Toph2: you can mix raid levels too, like raid 1+0 requires at least 4 disks to make 1 volume. its a raid1 but duplicated for speed
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Toph2: raid1 is the same access time as a single drive
[21:10] <bro0> Psi-Jack: so grub can install to a single drive?
[21:10] <Toph2> ActionParsnip,,, i see
[21:10] <Psi-Jack> bro0: Uhh.. Of course.
[21:10] <bro0> alright, i didnt know that!
[21:10] <Shinobi> Dr_willis: for got o add your name see above.
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> Toph2: raid0 is for speed but if a drive fails your data is gone
[21:10] <Psi-Jack> bro0: Please use common sense in the future.
[21:11] <gunarm> Psi-Jack, so nothing seems problematic?  should I take it to ubunto forums then?
[21:11] <bro0> Psi-Jack: i thought you could install grub to my raid
[21:11] <Psi-Jack> gunarm: I never saw the mount output.
[21:11] <bro0> brb, rebooting to reconfigure -.-
[21:11] <Toph2> ActionParsnip,,, so Raid1 is the same as a simple backup to another drive?
[21:11] <Psi-Jack> gunarm: One sec.
[21:11] <gunarm> http://pastebin.com/yp1tMjmc
[21:11] <Psi-Jack> bro0: Not Fake RAID, no.
[21:12] <Moonlightning> Is there a way to automatically lock a tty after some specified idle time?
[21:12] <Psi-Jack> gunarm: Hmmm..
[21:12] <W4sp> bro0: Install GRUB on all drives that a part of your RAID array.
[21:12] <Psi-Jack> gunarm: Yeah, that's very wierd.. There's no viable explaination as to why that could happen, on an ext4 filesystem.
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> Toph2: kinda but if one drive dies then the system is stilll accessible, giving you time to replace the drive
[21:13] <Toph2> ActionParsnip,,, ok, yes
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> Toph2: theres a youtube vid wit 24 x Samsung SSD drives as a single volume in RAID, its super fast
[21:14] <Toph2> ActionParsnip,,, would you have the url?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Toph2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs
[21:15] <Toph2> thanks a lot
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Toph2: skip to 1:30 to skip to yadda yada
[21:16] <gunarm> Psi-Jack, the drives are basically all brand new, i made the raid array, unplugged a drive and it built my hot swap successfully (as a test), i did mkfs.ext4 on the file system, i just havent been able to actually write any data on it, but ok ill go to the forums, the worst part is that the whole point of this is to protect my data, and in the process i've already spent 1100$s and even going to the point of unplugging the data drives to w
[21:16] <gunarm> ork on the raid drives, ive still managed to wipe 1/3rd of my precious data, and still dont even have a working raid array ;(
[21:16] <gunarm> heh thanks anyway htough
[21:18] <W4sp> Toph2: do not mix up redundancy with backup. Your RAID array is no substitute of a backup.
[21:18] <W4sp> s/of/for
[21:18] <Kihokki> Help! Xorg-server is not starting automatically and each start up I have to run startx to open it.
[21:18] <Toph2> W4sp,,, yes, i realize the function is different
[21:18] <W4sp> Kihokki: What OS and version do you have?
[21:19] <W4sp> Toph2: OK, fine then. Do not take advice seriously that tells you that you don't need backup if you have RAID of any level. :-)
[21:19] <Kihokki> W4sp, Ubuntu 12.04
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> Toph2: see how much faster the OS is using RAID, the HDD storage is a serious bottleneck in systems
[21:21] <Toph2> W4sp,,, you are suggesting that even with a Raid setup, one should backup?
[21:21] <v1c3> hello! how can i see the crc-32 checksum of a file?
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> Toph2: yes, always backup to an external storage or system or tape etc
[21:21] <Toph2> ok
[21:21] <gunarm> Toph2, have you ever read ANYTHING about raid, "Raid is not backup" is said so many times its basically an annoying cliche, how do you not know that?
[21:22] <zykotick9> v1c3: crc or md5?
[21:22] <Dr_Willis> can i raid my backups?
[21:22] <gunarm> if your computer gets fried, your raid array won't help you
[21:22] <Toph2> gunarm,,, i have a general feeling of what Raid is, but am learning
[21:22] <gunarm> if your house burns down
[21:22] <W4sp> Toph2: I suggest it firmly. ;-) Yes.
[21:23] <v1c3> crc
[21:23] <v1c3> zykotick9, crc
[21:23] <gunarm> the raid array keeps you up and running, but to really protect your stuff, a backup is more important, something not usually connected to your computer, and preferably kept at another physical location
[21:23] <zykotick9> v1c3: "crc32 filename"
[21:23] <kate__> i'm getting kernel panics, and i think this might be part of the issue; how do I investigate? ioatadma 0000:00:08.0: can't derive routing for PCI INT A
[21:24] <Soulstitchmmo> Hello. I updated my Ubuntu 12.04 a couple days ago, and now when I start up it doesn't go to the GUI it loads up to a terminal where I log in, and then that's it. No GUI. I've used startx and sudo service lightdm start and neither have worked. Currently I'm using the "try ubuntu" from my USB Stick.
[21:24] <v1c3> zykotick9, bash: crc32: command not found
[21:25] <W4sp> gunarm: It was me who said that RAID and backup are two things. Toph2 asked for information.
[21:25] <Toph2> gunarm,,, i really haven't considered backup storage outside my home,, what do you do, backup online?
[21:25] <zykotick9> v1c3: might be in libarchive-zip-perl (not sure though)
[21:26] <Kihokki> W4sp, Ubuntu 12.04
[21:26] <gunarm> W4sp, ah, i'm just so tired of people telling me raid is not a backup, i guess I couldn't believe anyone didn't already know that ;p
[21:26] <daniel-fold> Hi everyone, does anyone has some experience with Doctrine 2?
[21:27] <gunarm> Toph2, currently i am ashamed to say I don't have a backup, but that will change when I get the money, too much data for online backup, so ill have to buy another 10tb of drives and do a weekly rsync and then take the backups to work for safe keeping
[21:27] <W4sp> gunarm: :-) AFAIK so many things are being repeated day after day on different subjects.
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> Soulstitchmmo: what video chip do you use?
[21:27] <OerHeks> Hi, where to ask support for paid apps in softwarecentre ?
[21:28] <Soulstitchmmo> ActionParsnip: ATI Radeon 5850, it was working perfectly for gaming and everything up until recently.
[21:28] <gunarm> W4sp, yeah, nobodys fault.  I didnt meant to be a jerk about it
[21:28] <W4sp> Kihokki: The easiest thing to try at this stage is gpkg-reconfigure lightdm. A window comes up, pls. select lightdm.
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> Soulstitchmmo: I suggest you read /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:29] <Psi-Jack> gunarm: Good off-site backup that I use and like, is CrashPlan.
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> Soulstitchmmo: you may want to uninstall the fglrx driver then reboot
[21:29] <Toph2> gunarm,,, ok,, you compute at a different level than myself
[21:29] <Soulstitchmmo> ActionParsnip: can I get to that while "trying" ubuntu?
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> Soulstitchmmo: I'd reboot to the installed OS and hold SHIFT, select recovery mode then select root
[21:29] <Moonlightning> From https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates/ : Note that while the apt job is sleeping it will cause the execution of the rest of your cron.daily jobs to be delayed.
[21:29] <v1c3> zykotick9, haven´t found the package.. i´ll write a short programm to get the crc ^^
[21:30] <Soulstitchmmo> actio
[21:30] <W4sp> Kihokki: I have a speller... It is 'dpkg-reconfigure lightdm'.
[21:30] <Soulstitchmmo> ActionParsnip: and when I get to root, I navigate to that log, or do I follow the uninstallation instructions for FGLRX I already have?
[21:30] <gunarm> Psi-Jack, i think i looked into crash plan, but i just dont see how online backup of 8 tb of data would even work
[21:31] <Moonlightning> Why is this? Is there some way to make it not delay the others, or to force it to be the last job?
[21:31] <v1c3> other question: which kind of checksum is a 8-digit-hex-string?  please help!
[21:31] <v1c3> mjheagle8: i found a name_of_archive.sfv file in my download directory and it contains a few lines "name_of_archive.r06 06d282c3 "for example
[21:31] <Psi-Jack> gunarm: Works great. :)
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> Soulstitchmmo: you can run:  less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:32] <gunarm> Psi-Jack, but like, it would take months just to upload/download copies of it (at my internet speed) or else its like 130 bucks for them to mail you each drive to bypass the uploading/downloading, for that price I could by new drives
[21:32] <Soulstitchmmo> ActionParsnip: ok thank you going to try that.
[21:33] <zykotick9> v1c3: you might also try libstring-crc32-perl
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> Soulstitchmmo: you may need to uninstall the proprietary driver, reboot using the open driver then reinstall it
[21:33] <Psi-Jack> gunarm: What's your internet speed for uploads?
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> SoulShadow: did you by any chance upgrade from 11.10 or 10.04?
[21:34] <gunarm> Psi-Jack, slow, i think i'm paying for 30mbps down maybe 15-20 up
[21:34] <dougl> is there an iso for a usbstick to install 12.04 with?
[21:34] <Artemis3> dougl, the same cd iso
[21:34] <zykotick9> dougl: the iso is a hybrid - cd or usb
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> dougl: its the same one as you burn to CD
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> dougl: MD5 test it then use something like unetbootin
[21:35] <gunarm> Psi-Jack, and the way the ISPs i have found work, you get in trouble if you use it all all month, when you pass downloading about 3-400 tb a month they start calling you and accusing you of "abusing service" and threatening to terminate your account
[21:35] <gunarm> s/tb/gb/
[21:35] <W4sp> gunarm: OT:- Oooops.  10 TB at home.  :-O
[21:35] <dougl> thanks
[21:36] <gunarm> W4sp, xbmc bro ;)
[21:36] <gunarm> but not just that, also high quality family videos recorded from vhs
[21:36] <gunarm> and general data from about 6 different computers are consolidated
[21:37] <Psi-Jack> gunarm: I just did the math, based on 15mb/s upload rate. 8TB would 20 hours.
[21:37] <ikonia> Psi-Jack: the disk slowdown would stop it
[21:38] <ikonia> I moved 3.5 TB over a 1GB lan, getting a good thorughput and it took 36 hours
[21:38] <ikonia> the disk was the issue (and the USB bus)
[21:38] <Psi-Jack> ikonia: He's doing RAID. ;)
[21:38] <ikonia> ooooh
[21:38] <Psi-Jack> Yeah.
[21:38] <Psi-Jack> He'd EASILY be able to maintain the 15mbit/s throughput.
[21:39] <Psi-Jack> But, now I'm wondering why, at home, he has 8TB of data to begin with.
[21:39] <zally666> 22:32 < zally666> [   32.036007] tda827x_probe_version: could not read from  tuner at addr: 0xc0
[21:40] <louiemat_> is this the Pinguy distro chat  to ask questions on?
[21:40] <gunarm> hmm that coudn't be right
[21:40] <zally666> 28.311727] saa7133[0]/alsa: saa7133[0] at 0xdf5ff000 irq 16  registered as card -2
[21:40] <zally666> 23:38 < zally666> [   28.360092] DVB: registering new adapter (saa7133[0])
[21:40] <gunarm> 1s
[21:40] <W4sp> Have you considered SAN? Obviously, it does not cover your need to have a copy of yor backup out of your house.
[21:40] <zykotick9> louiemat_: nope.  pinguy isn't supported here
[21:40] <zally666> problem with tuner
[21:40] <gunarm> Psi-Jack, maybe i'm just a porn fiend ;)
[21:41] <zally666> its analog but registered as dvb ?.?
[21:41] <Artemis3> zally666, what device is this?
[21:41] <Psi-Jack> gunarm: Uhh... I'm leaning on other things, which are a lot less pleasant.
[21:41] <louiemat_> can u direct me to that chat?
[21:41] <zally666> saa7133 medion tv tuner
[21:41] <gunarm> but no i said its mostly tv shows and movies, as well as home videos, and consolidated data from 6 pcs
[21:41] <Psi-Jack> louiemat_: /msg alis help
[21:41] <k1l> louiemat_: its in the channel: #pinguyos  like its mentioned on their homepage
[21:41] <W4sp> Psi-Jack: He explained what nature the data is and why he has so much.
[21:41] <Psi-Jack> W4sp: Which still doesn't make sense.
[21:42] <gunarm> Psi-Jack, it doesnt?
[21:42] <Artemis3> zally666, does it work?
[21:42] <Psi-Jack> Not for 8 TB of data combined.
[21:42] <zally666> Artemis3: what could i do to reinstall vDl and drivers ?
[21:42] <gunarm> and i'm trying to imagine what you think would be less pleasant?
[21:42] <zally666> no not working atm
[21:42] <gunarm> or what that might mean
[21:42] <gunarm> heh
[21:43] <zally666> doesnt wanne scan for signal either
[21:43] <zally666> before only signal scanning worked
[21:43] <Psi-Jack> Tv shows, and movies. Gotcha. Piracy. Nuff said.
[21:43] <Artemis3> zally666, so you are using, say, tvtime and it doesnt work?
[21:43] <zally666> no it doesnt work at all
[21:43] <zally666> with any
[21:43] <Artemis3> zally666, did it work before?
[21:44] <Artemis3> zally666, with ubuntu i mean
[21:44] <zally666> since i tried tv server v4l vdr and tvheadend
[21:44] <zally666> uname -r ?
[21:44] <zally666> one without startbar
[21:44] <zally666> 3.2.0-24-generic
[21:44] <zally666> dont know what update its on
[21:44] <zally666> it worked before
[21:45] <Artemis3> zally666, before update it worked? oh i see
[21:45] <shade34321> I just upgraded a computer from 11.10 to 12.04 and it appears the mouse is stuck on the left edge of the screen. Any suggestions on how to fix this? Thanks!
[21:45] <zally666> before tv servers experiment
[21:45] <gunarm> Psi-Jack, DVR
[21:45] <zally666> Artemis3: can i run ubuntu on my closed router ? that my isp want me to configure from there site ?.?
[21:46] <diminoten> Hm, whenever I try to use nautilus's "Connect to server" thingy, I get "Can't load the supported server method list"
[21:46] <svennp> hi, im using the nvidia xserver settings in ubuntu and set it to twinview, is there any way to make fullscreen games go on only 1 screen with normal hd resolution?
[21:46] <diminoten> I googled for a solution and couldn't find one
[21:46] <zally666> i need a network tv server tuner router app or device :)
[21:46] <zally666> or backbone
[21:47] <Artemis3> zally666 you want to capture and stream video
[21:47] <Artemis3> zally666, but first fix the tvtuner
[21:47] <diminoten> it also says "Please check your gvfs installation"
[21:47] <diminoten> but my gvfs installation looks fine
[21:47] <diminoten> that is, it's totally there
[21:48] <diminoten> best I could find was "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11558897"
[21:48] <diminoten> buuut
[21:48] <diminoten> absolutely not helpful
[21:48] <W4sp> shade34321: See if xev shows mouse events. Also, if it's a BT mouse check the battery. May soud obvious but happens all the time.
[21:49] <zally666> Artemis3: any clues what can i try ?
[21:49] <zally666> Artemis3: why does tvtime need sudo ?
[21:49] <zally666> yes
[21:49] <soulstitchmmo> ActionParsnip: The going to root didn't work, but when I logged back in I ran the sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh and that worked.
[21:49] <zally666> how ?
[21:49] <zally666> its the driver
[21:49] <zally666> paste.ubuntu.com/1154311/   Artemis3
[21:49] <Artemis3> zally666, you don't need sudo with tvtime
[21:49] <shade34321> W4sp: it's a corded USB mouse...I will
[21:49] <Artemis3> zally666, only your user must belong to the proper group
[21:50] <zally666> ah
[21:50] <zally666> lets do that first ? how ?
[21:50] <Artemis3> zally666, i believe its group video, did you make another user?
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> soulstitchmmo: thought removing the driver would do it
[21:50] <W4sp> Do we have cwm ported to Ubuntu?
[21:50] <zally666> witch user should i make ?
[21:51] <zally666> another user ?
[21:51] <Artemis3> zally666, when you make a new user, you have to make sure it belongs to various grooups, like audio, video
[21:51] <diminoten> is there a samba client out there that's not part of nautilus
[21:51] <zally666> how do i add my user to those groups ?
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> zally666: sudo usermod -a -G groupname username
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> diminoten:  several of them in the repos.. some cli tools also.
[21:52] <diminoten> why is everything so fucking hard in ubuntu...
[21:52] <Artemis3> zally666, first type id in the console, and paste the results to pastebin
[21:52] <zally666> i prolly need to reinstall carddriver v4l and what else ?
[21:52] <diminoten> every one I've tried to use has failed
[21:52] <Dr_Willis> diminoten:  then theres the fusesmb tool that sort of auto-mounts samba shares.
[21:52] <IdleOne> !language | diminoten
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: its not, your are just so tuned into windows taht anything different is obviously hard for you
[21:52] <diminoten> wrong os
[21:52] <diminoten> you mean os x
[21:52] <isopov> hello, Nautilus doesn't list my android phone in the devices section - lsusb shows it in the output - can you please point me to the path to investigate and solve this problem?
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: whichever
[21:52] <Psi-Jack> Dr_Willis: EWWWWW!
[21:52] <diminoten> so anyway
[21:52] <diminoten> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11558897
[21:53] <zally666> do i need to change groupname in video and user to username ?
[21:53] <diminoten> if being an experienced linux user will make this problem trivial to you
[21:53] <Artemis3> zally666, i don't think you need to install any drivers, it should work with fresh install
[21:53] <diminoten> please go for it ActionParsnip
[21:53] <violinappren> isopov: is android set in mass storage mode?
[21:53] <Artemis3> zally666, not change group, ADD to group
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> MicroSoft has  made changes to their network share stuff that even confuses my windows machines.  diminoten  you could try  the gnome file manager but enter the ip# of the samba server instead of its hostname.
 is there a samba client out there that's not part of nautilus
[21:53] <bkc_> isopov: did you mount it?
[21:53] <Nisstyre> smbclient?
[21:53] <Psi-Jack> Dr_Willis: Fuse+SMB == super bad
[21:53] <zally666> but the pastebin says wrong tuner detect card -2
[21:53] <isopov> violinappren, yes
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> !info smb4k
[21:53] <diminoten> Nisstyre, ugh
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> zally666: yes, so the command would be:  sudo usermod -a -G video $USER      and it will add your username (denoted by the $USER variable) to the video group
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> Psi-Jack:  not tried it in ages.
[21:54] <Psi-Jack> AutoFS FTW!
[21:54] <diminoten> ubottu, using gnome
[21:54] <Nisstyre> diminoten: stop being so difficult
[21:54] <Artemis3> zally666, login, and type command id
[21:54] <Nisstyre> that answered your question
[21:54] <violinappren> isopov: is there a device file for it? check: ls /dev/sd*
[21:54] <diminoten> Nisstyre, it's not me it's ubuntu
[21:54] <violinappren> isopov: or better, use: sudo blkid
[21:54] <Dr_Willis> pcmanfm seems to be able to browse shares now also.. just tried it..
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: can you give the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[21:55] <michelfp> i just accidentally interrupted ubuntu instalation, what do?
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: please drop the attitude
[21:55] <michelfp> i have LVs
[21:55] <diminoten> precise
[21:55] <isopov> bkc_, violinappren, I looked in /dev/sd* - there is only my HDD there, other similar files (sg0, sr0) seems to be not mountable
[21:55] <bkc_> michelfp: restart, install again
[21:56] <bkc_> isopov: sg0 & sr0 is the burner
[21:56] <idodeisuke> Does anyone know, where the list of all installed packages on a ubuntu system is saved? The system isn't bootable, but I have access via live cd.
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: do you have  gvfs-backends installed?
[21:56] <isopov> "sudo blkid" - shows only HDD (cool command, thanks, need to remember)
[21:56] <zally666> okey thkx
[21:56] <BlacklightSleepi> …oh, come on!
[21:56] <zally666> videoinput: Driver refuses to start streaming: Device or resource busy.
[21:56]  * BlacklightSleepi mutters about low nick char limits
[21:56] <mohannad> michelfp:ithink if you rebooted again you will find an option in the main menu says continue broken installation or something
[21:56] <diminoten> ActionParsnip, yes
[21:57] <zally666> Artemis3: ping
[21:57] <zally666> did the group thing
[21:57] <violinappren> isopov: unplug the cable, do: sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog          and then plug the cable and pastebin the output text
[21:57] <zally666> video group thjat is
[21:57] <violinappren> !paste | isopov
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: tried:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install nautilus
[21:58] <diminoten> I tried this already but ok
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: if you use the file -> connect to server   does it connect ok?
[21:58] <diminoten> no
[21:58] <Artemis3> zally666, what is output of command:         id
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: can you ping the server?
[21:58] <diminoten> I click "Connect to server" and I am greeted with a dialog
[21:59] <zally666> http://pastebin.com/BVJF5q5m
[21:59] <Gamera> Does anyone know how to get box.net to mount and connect on start up so I can transfer and access files in my box.net account through the file manager?
[21:59] <diminoten> it's the connect to server dialog except everything's grayed out
[21:59] <zally666> Artemis3: alot stuff with my username and groups
[21:59] <diminoten> and at the top, I see in a red box the following two sentences
[21:59] <isopov> violinappren, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1154327/ - first is for unplug and three after plugging, I think
[21:59] <FreeMansMind> I lost connection
[21:59] <diminoten> "Can't load the supported server method list.  Please check your gvfs installation"
[21:59] <FreeMansMind> I do not see nothing in Startup List... there are some thing running on startup
[21:59] <Artemis3> zally666, use pastebin
[21:59] <diminoten> the server is pingable
[22:00] <zally666> sorry sended it in pm
[22:00] <FreeMansMind> this did not help either: sudo sed -i ‘s/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g’ /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: do you have the gvfs package installed?
[22:00] <diminoten> yes
[22:00] <diminoten> "gvfs is already the newest version."
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: tried reinstalling that package too?
[22:00] <acidrain> ActionParsnip, i have concluded that ubuntu is best flavor. for my personal needs that is. plus not to mention the Screenlets int he repos is best version and handled beautifully
[22:00] <shade34321> W4sp: I tried the xev thing and I believe it recognizes the mouse but as you can see in this picture, http://imgur.com/BMeJn , I can't really be sure
[22:01] <diminoten> ActionParsnip, trying now
[22:01] <zally666> Artemis3: got it ?
[22:01] <diminoten> no dice
[22:01] <violinappren> isopov: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-connect-your-android-ice-cream-sandwich-phone-to-ubuntu-for-file-access
[22:01] <Artemis3> zally666, i see, but now do this: ls -l ~/.tvtime
[22:01] <diminoten> Setting up gvfs (1.12.1-0ubuntu1)
[22:01] <diminoten> 1.12.1 is the version I'm using
[22:01] <violinappren> isopov: also see http://shkspr.mobi/blog/index.php/2012/01/connecting-samsung-ics-to-ubuntu-using-mtp/
[22:02] <zally666> PM Artemis3
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: have you tried (in terminal):    nautilus sftp://username@server/path
[22:03] <isopov> violinappren, thanks, seems to be what I need. It is Android 4. Thanks for helping with your searching Dao.
[22:03] <diminoten> "Nautilus cannot handle "sftp" locations."
[22:03] <violinappren> isopov: you're welcome
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: tried another file browser like pcmanfm?
[22:03] <diminoten> ActionParsnip, I'll try it
[22:04] <diminoten> "Operation not supported."
[22:04] <diminoten> when I tried pcmanfm sftp://me@place/share
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: use the menus of the app to connect, may work
[22:05] <diminoten> "Operation not supported" again
[22:05] <diminoten> when I go to the Go menu and select "Network drives"
[22:06] <diminoten> it just seems like my gvfs isn't being found
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: do you use ssh keys?
[22:06] <diminoten> no
[22:06] <diminoten> well not for thisw
[22:08] <W4sp> shade34321: The idea with xev is how X recognizes your keyboard. touchscreen and mouse events. The information is in the text output in terminal, not on your desktop. Also, check lsusb if your USB hub and mouse are listed there.
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> isopov, with my nexus I found the mtp not to work but gmtp does
[22:09] <diminoten> ActionParsnip, I can connect to the server via smbclient
[22:09] <diminoten> so it's not on that end
[22:10] <W4sp> cvs diff -u -rOPENBSD_5_1 -rHEAD
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: well is it running samba or sftp?
[22:10] <diminoten> samba
[22:10] <diminoten> well both
[22:10] <diminoten> either way
[22:11] <diminoten> not relevant as I can't even select my connection type
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: well it is as its a totally differet service
[22:11] <diminoten> okay ignore all the smb crap
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: have you tried connecting with filezilla?
[22:11] <diminoten> my "Connect a server..." is broken
[22:11] <diminoten> that's the actual problem, I can do literally nothing with that... app?
[22:12] <diminoten> dialog box, whatever
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: which dialogue box?
[22:12] <diminoten> I am given no selectable options when I open that dialog and I get the errors I mentioned before
[22:12] <diminoten> the "Connect to server..." one
[22:12] <thedarki> hello
[22:12] <violinappren> diminoten: what are you trying to accomplish ?
[22:12] <ChogyDan> if anyone knows about compiliing kernels, specifically configuring them, I could use some help
[22:12] <violinappren> thedarki: hello
[22:12] <diminoten> violinappren, I want my "Connect to server" dialog box to work
[22:13] <diminoten> what I'm trying to accomplish I have already accomplished via other means
[22:13] <diminoten> now I want this box to not sit there, broken
[22:13] <violinappren> ChogyDan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile/
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: ok but does filezilla connect?
[22:13] <diminoten> ...sure
[22:13] <diminoten> for what that matters, why the hell not
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: checks the service is listening
[22:13] <mnewton> How do I remove accessibility features in ubuntu. I hold shift down for long times sometimes and slow keys gets activated.
[22:13] <violinappren> diminoten: in what way is it broken?
[22:14] <mnewton> I don't want to deactivate them - I want to completely remove them.
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> diminoten: it isolates the issue to nautius etc if something not using gvfs can connect
[22:14] <diminoten> violinappren, the following error is displayed, and none of the input boxes are usable "Can't load the supported server method list.  Please check your gvfs installation."
[22:14] <violinappren> mnewton: type 'keyboard' in the dash search and then theres an accessibility tab
[22:15] <ChogyDan> thanks violinappren, I do know about that page and am following it.  I'm having trouble with the configuration part
[22:15] <violinappren> diminoten: have you tried reinstalling gvfs
[22:15] <violinappren> !details | ChogyDan
[22:15] <diminoten> violinappren, yes
[22:15] <shade34321> W4sp: I understand that but I can't really read the terminal since it's only showing part of it, I'm also having a problem X and Nvidia. i will try lsusb
[22:15] <xp_prg> hi all, trying to understand the best low ram usage linux live cd for an hp latop I can use, I heard mint is the best right now, any ideas?
[22:16] <mnewton> violinappren, i'm using xubuntu
[22:16] <k1l_> diminoten: gvfs-backends  is installed?
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> xp_prg: tinycore, puppy or xpud are low ram usage
[22:16] <diminoten> k1l_, yeah I've reinstalled it a couple of times heh
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> xp_prg: best is subjective
[22:16] <violinappren> mnewton: all the details on one line
[22:17] <ChogyDan> violinappren: ok, but please don't ask for details if you can't help.  I just don't know which command I should use to configure, debian/rules editconfigs or debian/rules updateconfigs.  I also don't know how to check if I have configured correctly.  I feel lost
[22:17] <xp_prg> well I need all the apps like openoffice etc...
[22:17] <blaggard> xp_rg: try either lubuntu or xubuntu
[22:17] <mnewton> violinappren, sorry, i want to remove these features all together - more like an apt-get purge blah-package
[22:17] <blaggard> Mint is a full-weight distro
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> xp_prg: puppy has an office suite, you can add whatever you want to xpud and tinycore
[22:18] <xp_prg> does it run on a live cd?
[22:18] <W4sp> shade34321: I understand that you cannot move your terminal without your mouse.
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> xp_prg: sure
[22:18] <violinappren> ChogyDan: this is a public channel, you're expected to give all useful details of a problem and any one may help
[22:18] <blaggard> xp_rg: puppy has a live cd version, yes
[22:18] <xp_prg> can I install new apps when in the live cd mode?
[22:18] <ChogyDan> violinappren: I know how it works -.-
[22:19] <jagosix> Hello People
[22:19] <W4sp> channel - In Unity/Ubuntu 3d and 2d... How do I move the terminal (gnome-terminal) window without utilizing the mouse?
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> xp_prg: with xpud you simply copy the .opt files to the right folder no the usb and they are accessible
[22:19] <jagosix> Can I use remastersys with 12.04 ?
[22:19] <violinappren> ChogyDan: not if you withhold the details from public :)
[22:19] <xp_prg> ok my next really hard question, I don't have a blank cd to use and I need to do a usb boot, can I use my iphone's usb drive to do it somehow?
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> W4sp: if you use terminal a lot I can recommend guake
[22:20] <blaggard> xp_rg: I don't think so.
[22:20] <blaggard> actually, I know so.
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> xp_prg: its an iphone, i doubt doing anything remotely intelligent with it will work
[22:20] <xp_prg> ok
[22:20] <blaggard> ^ what he said
[22:21] <shade34321> W4sp: I got the mouse working. I disabled all the NVidia drives via terminal through ssh and rebooted. Now it works. Thanks for your help!
[22:21] <shade34321> now to figure out why twinview won't work><
[22:21] <W4sp> ActionParsnip: I dont' have Unity running. I need to assist a user who's mouse isn't working. I can't give advise on how to move the terminal.
[22:21] <vvpalin> iphone's are actually really intelligent, they can make calls for you and such
[22:21] <W4sp> shade34321: Very welcome.
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> W4sp: you don't need unity for guake, you don't even need gnome desktop
[22:21] <zykotick9> W4sp: ctrl+alt+f1 for a VT perhaps?
[22:22] <diminoten> I feel like I have a fairly unique problem...
[22:22] <diminoten> I'll post to the forums about it I guess
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> W4sp: ah, you could enable mouse keys
[22:22] <jagosix> Question....Can I use remastersys with 12.04 ?
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> jagosix: is that stil developed?
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> jagosix, should be able to
[22:22] <W4sp> ActionParsnip: If you would take the to actually read my requirement...?
[22:22] <theDboy> skrilla
[22:22] <theDboy> exit
[22:22] <jagosix> Well I want to create my own custom live disc
[22:23] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, back by popular demands. ;)
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> diminoten:  theres askubuntu.com also
[22:23] <jagosix> anysuggestions ?
[22:23] <jagosix> any  suggestions ?
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> jagosix:  i think 12.04 broke some of the remastering tools.. there may be updated versions of them out by now.
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> !remaster
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> jagosix: http://sourceforge.net/projects/remastersys/files/  looks dead
[22:23] <mnewton> what package install accessibility features like slow keys. I want to purge it. I'm on xubuntu.
[22:24] <diminoten> Dr_Willis I'll post it, but I'm not sure if my windows addled brain can handle the concept of getting community help, right ActionParsnip ? :/
[22:24] <blaggard> hey, how bad are the kernel issues with power/heat management in 12.04? I have a new Latitude on the way...
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> diminoten:  with that attitude.. i doubt it.
[22:24] <violinappren> mnewton: you can disable it using the "settings manager"
[22:24] <W4sp> zykotick9: Does Ctrl+alt+F1 allow me to move the window with the help of arrow keys?
[22:24] <diminoten> I wish my attitude was not because of how I was treated here...
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> jagosix:  http://www.remastersys.com/  seems to work with 12.04
[22:25] <W4sp> zykotick9: (sounds stupid to ask but I don't have a DE like Unity or GNOME3.
[22:25] <OerHeks> Hi, where to ask support for paid apps in softwarecentre ?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> W4sp: unity isn't a DE
[22:26] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, at sourceforge yes the site mentions the path to its continuance. http://www.remastersys.com/
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/87335/nautilus-cannot-load-supported-server-method-list-please-check-your-gvfs-inst
[22:27] <violinappren> ActionParsnip: is it not?
[22:27] <mnewton> violinappren, I know I can disable it. But it's the enabling I dont like. I've got stuff bound to the shift key and I don't want to keep opening it up and disabling it.
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> violinappren: no, its a shell for the gnome desktop
[22:27] <violinappren> mnewton: it's a one time only thing
[22:28] <violinappren> ActionParsnip: looks more like a fork of gnome to me
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> violinappren: you can also use gnome-panel or gnome-shell instead
[22:28] <blaggard> what, unity?
[22:29] <blaggard> also, Cinnamon or MATE
[22:29] <k1l_> violinappren: unity is just a shell, gnome3 is the DE
[22:29] <blaggard> Using Cinnamon myself, very clean but occaisionally glitchy
[22:29] <Belial`> animations are slow for me on cinnamon.
[22:29] <Belial`> same with gnome-shell. mutter doesn't seem as fast as compiz.
[22:29] <Belial`> as far as effects go.
[22:30] <blaggard> belial`: what kind of hardware are you dealing with?
[22:30] <coinn8212> hey... looks like http://kernel.ubuntu.com/ is down?
[22:30] <coinn8212> could someone confirm?
[22:30] <Belial`> core i3 with intel integrated. gnome-shell was running really smooth when it was first released.
[22:30] <Belial`> after 3.4, not so much.
[22:31] <violinappren> coinn8212: it is
[22:31] <k1l_> !ot | coinn8212
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> never had a glitch on core2 duo cpu, 3Gb ram and intel 945GM GPU...
[22:31] <blaggard> coinn8212: its down alright
[22:31] <W4sp> !unity | ActionParsnip
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> coinn8212: try    http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
[22:32] <coinn8212> ActionParsnip: haha... cool site... lemme check
[22:32] <ChogyDan> canonical was moving data centers today
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> W4sp: I'm well aware, I've used the OS a while and am also an Ubuntu member :P
[22:32] <blaggard> oh right, the datacenter thing
[22:32] <blaggard> durr hurr, forgot
[22:32] <W4sp> ActionParsnip: I'm aware of that, too. Are you on a war path tonight?
[22:32] <coinn8212> What's the ubuntu IRC channel to signal this to Ubuntu admins so that they bring http://kernel.ubuntu.com/ up again?
[22:33] <blaggard> coinn8212: they are moving datacenters right now
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> W4sp: just curious why you sent me the factoid when its someting I already know
[22:33] <coinn8212> thanks blaggard, (any ETA by chance? just asking)
[22:33] <blaggard> Should be back up tomorrow
[22:33] <coinn8212> okie
[22:33] <TaJMoX> Nautilus says "Can not move file to trash, would you like to delete permanently?"  ... Why? It is an NTFS partition and is mounted with proper permissions.
[22:33] <coinn8212> thanks a lot
[22:33] <blaggard> no prob
[22:33] <coinn8212> have a good day/night
[22:33] <bzzzz> !mirros
[22:34] <zykotick9> !mirrors | bzzzz looking for this?
[22:35] <bzzzz> zykotick9: merci
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> TaJMoX: is it read only?
[22:35] <blaggard> ubottu: what do you mean by !notunity?
[22:36] <bmanuel> !notunity
[22:36] <isopov> I don't remember who suggested that and I restarted since and chatzilla seems to not have history - but thanks for gmtp instead of mtp - it is very intuitive comparing to terminal commands and mouting both internal memory and sd-card together into one folder (and both a mounted partially - not all files and folders are accessible) - thanks a lot.
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> blaggard:  the bot trigger is '!nounity'
[22:37] <mesaphlin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=NG&feature=relmfu&hl=en-GB&v=J55ZaxIJhRg   -  In this video the basic dumb terminal spits out the characters in 300 baud. I wanted to do the same thing but after it says termainal ready, nothing I could write in the terminal. Just frozen there. what should I do?
[22:37] <TaJMoX> ActionParsnip no, it's rw but owner is listed as root. And sudo chown user isn't changing the owner (ntfs problem probably?)
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> blaggard:  !things trigger the bot to spit out  frequently needed answers and responzes. :)
[22:38] <blaggard> ok, so I gotta be honest, I just started using IRC so a lot of the small stuff slips past me
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> TaJMoX: yes, ntfs is an ass like taht
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> TaJMoX:  you dont chown/chmod NTFS or VFAT filesystems
[22:39] <TaJMoX> ActionParsnip I think I'll just have to deal with not having a trash ... funny that I can delete/move/rename but it won't move to trash
[22:39] <TaJMoX> Dr_Willis Any idea why nautilus won't move it to .Trash-1000 but it will move it wherever I want if I drag/drop it?
[22:40] <Advocated> TaJMoX, out of interest, ive  not been reading, but whats the problem you're having?
[22:40] <jarek_>  /join #ubuntu-pl
[22:40] <silverarrow> is there a way to burn mp4 as regular CD to play in CD player?
[22:40] <blaggard> TajMox: have you tried mv to trash via terminal?
[22:40] <TaJMoX> Advocated trying to delete a file "Cannot move file to trash. Do you want to delete it immediately?"
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> TaJMoX:  permissions on the root of the mounted drive perhaps.   How was it mounted? by you and fstab? or auto-mounted? The ntfs-config tool may set it to mount with more open permissions that let you do it.
[22:40] <blaggard> also, try running it as sudo
[22:40] <TaJMoX> blaggard I can move it, but pressing DELETE won't work =\
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> TaJMoX:  I normally hate finding .Trash-XXXXX directories on my ntfs/vfat  partions and usb drives. :)
[22:41] <TaJMoX> blaggard Yes as root it won't move to trash either.
[22:41] <silverarrow> Dr_Willis, does that happen a lot?
[22:41] <TaJMoX> Dr_Willis So all files will be deleted permanently then using NTFS filesystem??
[22:41] <Dr_Willis> silverarrow:  happens enough where its annoying.. but now a days ubuntu asks to empty the trash befor removeing my USB.
[22:42] <Dr_Willis> TaJMoX:  it COULD be since ntfs cant set the owner of the files/dirs as the current user deleteing the file. its failing.. ive never noticed the issie on ntfs.. let me look
[22:42] <TaJMoX> Only reason it's ntfs is so I can share with other computers in the house ... I guess I'll just change to ext4 and set up samba ... Dr_Willis blaggard Advocated
[22:42] <silverarrow> oh, yes I am with you, I rememeber
[22:42] <i7c> does ubuntu server offer disk encryption in the installation process?
[22:42] <TaJMoX> i7c yes, you have the option to encrypt your home folder
[22:43] <i7c> TaJMoX: thx for the info :)
[22:43] <TaJMoX> i7c there is a check box during install =) np
[22:43] <i7c> nice!
[22:43] <Dr_Willis> TaJMoX:  it just let me move a file to the Trash on my NTFS partition i mounted via nautilus. :) But i will have to say this is on my 12.10 test machine
[22:43] <blaggard> dr_willis: did they fix the power and heat management in the new kernel?
[22:44] <mesaphlin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=NG&feature=relmfu&hl=en-GB&v=J55ZaxIJhRg - someone help me with this if I may ask please? I want to do the same thing but after it says terminal ready, it is stuck there, nothing I can type. what should I do?
[22:44] <crimsonmane> blaggard: that's a question of "turning off visual effects"
[22:44] <Dr_Willis>   /dev/sda2 on /run/media/willis/WIN7 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[22:44] <ChogyDan> blaggard: last I heard, no.  But wasn't it post 3.2 kernel?
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> blaggard:  ive never had any issues with it.. i imagine it depends on the exact chipset/hardware
[22:44] <TaJMoX> Dr_Willis I just noticed when I run nautilus as root, it DOES move the files to .Trash-0 ... but as user, it doesn't move it to .Trash-1000
[22:45] <blaggard> I am just concerned, as i am due for a new laptop, and just want the stupid simple useability from 11.04/gnome2 back
[22:45] <TaJMoX> blaggard isn't compiling your own kernel the best way to go always?
[22:46] <Dr_Willis> TaJMoX:  all the files on the ntfs here are owed by my user that mounted the ntfs
[22:46] <Dr_Willis> ls -ld .Trash-1000/
[22:46] <Dr_Willis> drwx------ 1 willis willis 0 Aug 18 18:42 .Trash-1000/
[22:47] <Sporty1> TJ- Are you here
[22:47] <TaJMoX> DR_Willis drwxrwxrwx 1 root root      0 Aug 15 15:14 .Trash-1000/
[22:47] <TaJMoX> ... =/
[22:47] <blaggard> TaJMoX: I heard that changing kernels tends to break something in apparmor
[22:48] <TaJMoX> blaggard Well that sucks ... I just recently came back to Linux after about 6 years, I was planning on compiling my kernel soon (since I've noticed some cpu issues)
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> ive not needed to use a custom kernel in years...
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> theres experimental/ppas for some newer/updated kernels.
[22:48] <TaJMoX> I notice a lot of performance/stability when using a custom kernel... but may be placebo
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> !kernel
[22:49] <TaJMoX> The point is, compiling your own kernel will write it for the machine code for your specific architecture (Core 2 duo for example) ... right?
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> TaJMoX:  not always.
[22:49] <ChogyDan> TaJMoX: I heard that stuff is loaded at compile time now adays
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> TaJMoX:  i doubt if you will notice much gain from messing with the kernel.
[22:50] <TaJMoX> It used to help ... shrug.
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> used to be 512mb was a lot of ram....
[22:50] <blaggard> my understanding is the issue has to do with the kernel not being able to throttle the hardware properly.
[22:50] <TaJMoX> Speaking of CPU, anyone notice that plugin-container uses an incredible amount of CPU? Even if it's just a small flash running
[22:51] <blaggard> not idling the CPU, not lowering fan speeds, etc
[22:51] <TaJMoX> Also, xorg is idling at 3% =\
[22:51] <zykotick9> Dr_Willis: "used to be" for sure ;)
[22:51] <TaJMoX> blaggard exactly, so a custom compiled cpu would be able to utilize your specific hardware properly.
[22:51] <zykotick9> no one needs more then 256MB ;)
[22:51] <TaJMoX> custom compiled kernel*
[22:52] <TaJMoX> I still have my Packard Bell 386 @ 33mhz w/ 4MB RAM
[22:52] <TaJMoX> It doesn't run Ubuntu xD
[22:53] <shade34321> On one of the computers the wired USB keyboard and mouse does not work any more, they were working previously before a reboot. I check lsusb and it sees both
[22:54] <TaJMoX> In Xchat, how do I disable showing who has joined/quit ?
[22:54] <W4sp> Most of the time my Xorg idles at 0.00. Seldom at 2. That's because my DE doesn't need much from Xorg.
[22:54] <TaJMoX> Unity seems to be super resource hog... even using Unity 2D
[22:55] <TaJMoX> plugin-container is always at 50% cpu ... this sucks...
[22:55] <W4sp> TaJMoX: use /ignore, eg. JOINS NICKS
[22:56] <blaggard> TaJMoX: thats why I run either gnome-fallback, mate, or cinnamon.
[22:56] <TaJMoX> W4sp so like /ignore 'has joined' will work?
[22:56] <TaJMoX> ...but what if someone says "Bill has joined our team at work"
[22:56] <TaJMoX> It's been like 12 years since I've used IRC =)
[22:57] <W4sp> TaJMoX: /ignore JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS reduces the output to conversation channel messages.
[22:57] <W4sp> TaJMoX: It's not /ignore 'has joined'. It is '/ignore joins parts nicks quits'
[22:57] <W4sp> TaJMoX: Just type in /ignore and it shoud tell you what's being ignored.
[22:58] <JoeL3roy> hey-
[22:59] <W4sp> TaJMoX: I also recommend to see if irssi does the trick for you. There are two X-chat in Software packages, one is x-chat, the other x-chat GNOME.
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> TaJMoX:  flash sucking down cpu is not unitys fault.
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> xchat has a menu item in the channel tab/menus to ignore stuff per channel
[23:01] <silverarrow> is there a way to make mp4 to mp3 or burnable audio file?
[23:01] <TaJMoX> Dr_Willis I know this is the other issue I'm having =)
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> silverarrow:  many of the media apps in ubuntu can convert/gnerate a standard music cd.
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> silverarrow:  i tend to use k3b
[23:02] <silverarrow> I am in lubuntu, I might just need to install
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> TaJMoX:  flash is an issue...  I tend to not use flash whenever possible.
[23:02] <silverarrow> Dr_Willis, thanks
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> !burn
[23:02] <TaJMoX> Dr_Willis Damn .. I'm forced to run Flash at all times for work. There goes 50% of my cpu ><
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> TaJMoX:  forced at work?
[23:03] <shade34321> On one of the computers the wired USB keyboard and mouse does not work any more, they were working previously before a reboot. I checked lsusb and it sees both
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> you have to watch  cat videos at work? ;P
[23:03] <OerHeks> TaJMoX, 50% cpu is not bad, is it?
[23:03] <silverarrow> Dr_Willis, I have xfburn
[23:03] <TaJMoX> Dr_Willis no, a web app we use uses Flash... it's not graphics intensive but still taking up 50% >,<
[23:03]  * zykotick9 thinks !burn is missing dvd+rw-tools for growisofs...
[23:03] <TaJMoX> OerHeks Considering I'd also like to do some encoding/compiling ... yes, the flash app is really tiny shouldn't be using 50%
[23:06] <W4sp> TaJMoX: Flash can get very CPU hungry if you use Flash to dynamicaly display data, eg. pie charts or similar with data feed. ajax or not ajax.
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> i was just wondering what household cleaner had to do with flash... ;)   wife just asked me where the ajax was for the bathtub.. ;P
[23:07] <TaJMoX> I would like to ajax Flash from the world ...
[23:07] <TaJMoX> Needs to be something better
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> its the 'its what we always used so we will always use it' mentality
[23:08] <ianm_> fresh install of 12.04 on a Thinkpad X230 and the touchpad hops about 6 pixels at a time, any way to make it smoother?
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[23:09] <gfkjunior> hey ya'll, just a quick question wondering how I use my laptops webcam.
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> ianm_: are yu fully updated?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> gfkjunior: does it work in cheese?
[23:10] <ianm_> ActionParsnip: yeah just did and rebooted
[23:10] <gfkjunior> I dont have cheese, I'll go ahead and try it!
[23:11] <ianm_> oh you need cheese
[23:11] <gfkjunior> cool deal, thanks
[23:14] <W4sp> TaJMoX: Agree. I ensure my systems are hostile to Adobe's stuff.
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> ianm_: tried disabling the 'disable touchpad while I type' as well as 'tap to click'
[23:15] <OerHeks> Hi, where to get support for paid apps in softwarecentre ?
[23:15] <zumo_> Anyone have a benchmark tool suggestion?
[23:16] <zumo_> I want to see which of the two machines I have is better. I know what one is better spec wise, But I have a feeling the other machine actually preforms better.
[23:17] <ianm_> ActionParsnip: tried it, logged out / in, same chunky movement
[23:17] <rustler770> Anyone use gnupg/enigmail?
[23:17] <OerHeks> i have de-installation issues with a commercial app called "Xeoma" in software centre. i askes here for days, no answer ..
[23:19] <W4sp> rustler770: Could you ask specific questiosn.
[23:20] <TaJMoX> zumo_ I am also interested.
[23:21] <Bravia> Hello: Any idea about this comment: Openbox is a minimalistic and lightweight window manager that is known to run much faster than metacity, its bulkier counterpart. And you can easily get it working while still using Gnome as your window manager / desktop environment. By running Openbox inside the Gnome environment your desktop will become cleaner and faster.
[23:21] <rustler770> I want to use my Thunderbird windows certs and import them into Ubuntu thunderbird
[23:21] <Bravia> can some one tell me what openbox exactly is please.
[23:22] <TaJMoX> Bravia it draws windows in Xorg
[23:22] <i7c> Bravia: it's a window manager ;) it takes care of drawing windows, also moving resizing etc
[23:22] <TaJMoX> Bravia I mean, it's part of Xorg if you choose to use it, it will take over for the Window Manager you are currently using
[23:22] <i7c> Bravia: it's a piece of software that you normally never notice because it just works
[23:23] <TaJMoX> !wm
[23:23] <Atrika> why am i getting a "connection refused" when trying to "git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-precise.git"
[23:23] <i7c> Bravia: different windows managers have different features. so some can move windows with special key combinations while others can't for example.
[23:24] <TaJMoX> ...Even ubottu doesn't know =)
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> ianm_: may help http://hustoknow.blogspot.co.uk/2010/09/thinkpad-t510-laptops-mousetouchpad.html
[23:24] <W4sp> Bravia: Openbox is a window manager that interacts with our desktop manager.
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> Atrika: there was a datacentre move , it may still be affected
[23:24] <unodx> hello folks...anybody have problem with adjusting screen brightness after applying updates from ubuntu ?
[23:24] <Atrika> :(
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> unodx: does the system have a make and model?
[23:25] <W4sp> ianm_: Try to check with "xset m" if you can modify the mouse pointer speed.
[23:25] <unodx> its samsung laptop series 9...ubuntu 12.04 on it
[23:25] <blaggard> atrika: try back tomorrow
[23:26] <Bravia> W4sp:  Will it work faster as it says? I am using compiz effects too. If its workinf much faster and cleaner why ubuntu doesnt have it in default. What is the thing that I am missing about it?
[23:27] <phy1729> after apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop I need to reboot to get rid of the GUI correct?
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> phy1729, not the way to take care of that.
[23:28] <phy1729> how would you suggest?
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> phy1729, what desktop do you want?
[23:28] <phy1729> I want to get rid of all the non-server cruft too
[23:28] <W4sp> Bravia: That's somethign I can't answer. I would assume it is well a political decision made by canonical.
[23:28] <phy1729> none
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> phy1729, headless,
[23:28] <phy1729> I just want the CLI
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> phy1729, why didn't you just install the server?
[23:28] <nothingspecial> install the minimal version phy1729
[23:28] <phy1729> I didn't do the install
[23:29] <W4sp> phy1729: If you have the server installed how come that you have X?
[23:29] <phy1729> desktop was installed I would like to make it server
[23:29] <phy1729> I was told some time back to remove the desktop metapackage
[23:30] <W4sp> phy1729: Do you have Desktop installed? Do you now want to turn it into Ubuntu Server?
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> phy1729, others will be of more help here, but the desktop remove you suggest only removes a few things not the whole ubuntu gnome based pkgs
[23:30] <shade34321> On one of the computers the wired USB keyboard and mouse does not work any more, they were working previously before a reboot. I checked lsusb and it sees both any suggestions on other steps I can take to get them working again?
[23:30] <phy1729> W4sp: correct
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> shade34321: what about if you unplug, wait a short while then reconnect them?
[23:32] <Miggs> Hi guys. I have a pulseaudio/zeroconf question - I can find my network sound sink in avahi-discover (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1154444/ 5.1 Digital on xbmc@xbmc) but it doesn't show up in the list of devices in the sound control panel. paprefs is configured to allow access to remote devices locally. Any hints on how I can resolve this? Cheers
[23:33] <W4sp> phy1729: You can't turn desktop  into server by removing any deskto specific packages. The server has an optimized kernel. That said, you can turn a desktop into server and remove desktop specific packages afterwards (eg X).
[23:34] <sam101> does anyone know anything about ubuntu tv
[23:34] <shade34321> ActionParsnip: I tried that but I will try it again
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> phy1729, If it were me I would just reinstall the server, but to each their own.
[23:34] <ianm_> W4sp: any tips on what numbers to give it?  the slightest movement on the touchpad makes the mouse cursor jump many pixels
[23:34] <phy1729> wilee-nilee: already have too many customizations to go that route
[23:34] <W4sp> ianm_: Did you try the command I suggested?
[23:34] <svennp> can someone help me configuring metamodes for nvidia graphicks card? i currently have it working but it uses wrong monitor when i start games
[23:35] <phy1729> also that would incur too much down time
[23:35] <ianm_> W4sp: xset m?  yeah playing with it now
[23:35] <phy1729> W4sp: is there an easy way to change kernels?
[23:36] <dekan> Hello!
[23:36] <sam101> what is the diffrence between xterm and the terminal
[23:37] <ianm_> W4sp: it actually seems more precise vertically
[23:37] <W4sp> phy1729: I can't tell you at if there is a specific package to do what you want as I don't have Ubuntu under my fingertips. But the path should be 1. install server, 2. remove desktop specific. Also, as I said you don't turn desktop into server by removing any X related packages.
[23:37] <dekan> sam101: I guess not much of difference if you're doing basic stuff.
[23:38] <Artemis3> sam101, xterm is a terminal for X, do you mean a console?
[23:38] <shade34321> ActionParsnip: I just plugged them back in, in different ports just in case the ports were bad and they still don't work and lsusb shows them again
[23:39] <phy1729> W4sp: what meta package is that? there isn't a ubuntu-server
[23:40] <zally666> videoinput: Cannot open capture device /dev/video0: No such file or directory
[23:41] <Artemis3> zally666, aww, well you know what to do ;)
[23:41] <zally666> :)
[23:41] <zally666> lol
[23:41] <zally666> i give up
[23:41] <zally666> i'll buy a dlink network tv server
[23:42] <zally666> got a link ?
[23:42] <W4sp> ianm_: Well, you may need to create an xorg.conf file. Pease can you let me know your ThinkPad X model again?
[23:42] <ianm_> W4sp: X230
[23:44] <TaJMoX> What do I press to open the boot loader before startup?
[23:44] <TaJMoX> So I can revert to other kernels if I must
[23:44] <TaJMoX> And give boot options, recovery, etc
[23:44] <sam101> hi
[23:45] <sam101> does anyone now about ubuntu tv
[23:45] <Phr3d13> i am having an issue while web browsing and while trying to use pithos, with pithos (pandora client) i get this error: http://pastie.org/4547075
[23:46] <svennp> can anyone please give me some help with metamodes for nvidia graphicks card? i have been trying to get games showing up on monitor 1 for about 3 hours now :L
[23:46] <sam101> u need to label ur tag
[23:47] <snagglepuss> TaJMoX:  grub2 menu at boot: hold down shift key
[23:48] <linuxuz3r> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSS1zh45Fts&feature=related
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, please don't spam the channel. :)
[23:49] <linuxuz3r> fudgees you
[23:49] <W4sp> ianm_: According to my finding it shoudl use the synaptics driver.
[23:50] <wilee-nilee> linuxuz3r, lol, you know a pre-pubescent cognitive development is so impressive.
[23:50] <linuxuz3r> i was just jking
[23:50] <linuxuz3r> i didnt even spam
[23:52] <TaJMoX> May someone please recommend a fun MMO?
[23:52] <TaJMoX> Thanks snagglepuss
[23:52] <linuxuz3r> wizards 101
[23:52] <W4sp> ianm_: I mentioned this because it could have been detected as PS/2 Mouse.
[23:53] <ianm_> W4sp: 'xinput' shows SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad
[23:54] <W4sp> phy1729: I can't tell you but there shoudl be one. Given that your system is in production I recommend to backup and even dd your OS partitions prior any upgrade.
[23:54] <Phr3d13> i am having an issue while web browsing and while trying to use pithos, with pithos (pandora client) i get this error: http://pastie.org/4547075
[23:55] <W4sp> ianm_: Excellent. Now we need to figure out if X loads the driver. Can you check with your Xorg.0.log in /var/log? It shoudl tell how the drivers are loaded.
[23:56] <Phr3d13> just got this one while trying to log in to report a bug in launchpad: http://pastie.org/4547144
[23:57] <W4sp> ianm_: Also, you may need to create an xorg.log (Xorg :1 -configure > ~/xorg.conf.new) as root
[23:57] <ianm_> W4sp: yeah it looks like the synaptic driver, x-axis range 1472-5768, y-axis 1408-5062