[00:49] <opti> In Software Sources, everything dissapeared under the Additional Drivers tab
[00:50] <opti> how do I install the amd proprietry drivers so my video card doesnt resemble a hair dryer?
[00:50] <Daekdroom> Software Sources isn't even working for me :(
[00:51] <opti> I've not been having much luck, but it is alpha after all.
[00:51] <opti> It all came about from wondering which kernel quantal will end up running, apparantly 3.5
[00:52] <opti> the first time, i tried insalling fresh and added the proprietry driver, which resulted in X not loading at all
[00:52] <opti> now i've tried updating from alpha 3, now i have no option to choose it, figure its broken.
[00:53] <opti> probably should just wait for the first beta, lol
[01:45] <johnjohn101> wow, second vm of alpha 3 killed with an update.
[01:50] <Debolaz> 12.10 is known to be broken on virtual machines at the moment.
[05:04] <raymond_> I'm using ubuntu webapps on 12.04 and I have a webapp stuck to my media player area on my unity bar.  I was able to remove the app from the launcher using the menu editor, but alas it shows up still in the media player area.
[05:04] <raymond_> Can I get rid of it without destroying all of my other webapps?
[05:07] <micahg> raymond_: 12.04 support in #ubuntu
[06:29] <crf> gnome-panel was using 4 GB of memory a few moments ago. But it is now normal again. Something is probably wrong with it.
[06:30] <crf> Using gnome fallback
[07:16] <Varikonniemi> wow, nice to see the mailing list post where ubuntu finally ditching ubuntu2d
[07:17] <Varikonniemi> will this finally mean that 64bit will be the default from 12.10 onward?
[07:23] <Fishscene> lol. One can only hope they will push 64bit over 32bit
[07:24] <Fishscene> We need to get past this 32-bit phase and move forward.
[07:38] <Varikonniemi> yeah, thats what i thought would happen way before 12.04 LTS
[07:39] <Varikonniemi> now we are stuck with a 32bit default install for the next 3 years?
[07:39] <Varikonniemi> or was it upped to 5 on desktop also
[07:43] <Fishscene> Well, I'm wondering if that was because of Flash support, which is spotty on 64-bit. But now it's going to be even worse now that Adobe has discontinued Linux support.
[07:53] <Varikonniemi> java moved over to the OS codebase
[07:53] <Varikonniemi> maybe adobe said the same thing about google's flash project
[07:54] <Varikonniemi> why i would think this finally changes 64 bit as default is that llvm pipe is so much faster on 64bit than on 32bit
[12:03] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:04] <penguin42> Hey BK?
[12:19] <edgy> hi, I cannot install nvidia-current : Depends: xorg-video-abi-11 but it is not installable
[12:34] <penguin42> yeh people have been saying that for a few days
[12:44] <edgy> ok
[12:47] <BluesKaj> Firefox is acting up  on Kubuntu 12.10 , keeps reloading flash and java it seems , very jumpy .
[12:47]  * BluesKaj goes back to chromium ...rekonq is totally hopeless
[12:48] <penguin42> yeh rekonq is hopeless
[12:52] <BluesKaj> lots of flash and javascript issues with rekong ..all kinds of trouble rendering ordinary sites , maybe the focus is on the future like html5 and IPv6 etc , but it sure isn't working very well presently
[13:04] <Daekdroom> And what the hell is up with that name?
[13:05] <Daekdroom> How do they expect people to pronounce rekonq?
[13:05]  * Daekdroom 's never used rekonq
[13:06]  * penguin42 says re-konq
[13:07] <Daekdroom> That doesn't tell me much. I'm not an English native speaker.
[13:07] <penguin42> hmm
[13:07] <penguin42> Daekdroom: read the konq as the start of the word conquer and re as the start of return
[13:08] <Daekdroom> Oh.
[13:13] <penguin42> Daekdroom: the main KDE browser for a long time was Konqueror
[13:15] <BluesKaj> I liked konqueror a lot , once one had it setup properly it was a great browser and file manager , but it hasn't been maintained very well for the last few yrs
[17:46] <jakubo> hi, may i ask whether anyone knows about plans to customise behaviour of the OSD thing? like having multiple displays like in the good old 9.xx days? im kinda tired of waiting for my chat contacts to go away to actually see what song i have changed to minutes ago...
[17:48] <Varikonniemi> in my experience none is provided out of box
[17:49] <Varikonniemi> god forbid if i start qbittorrent without having mounted my raid array first, i will see "permission denied" messages for an hour with no way to accept them all at once or configure it in any way
[17:52] <jakubo> so if it were 3 by default for instance... i mean we have HD screens with lots of space, yet still setting the numer per user would be better
[19:21] <jakubo> is there a way to resync software raid components in the new disks utility? it has become quite a cripple of what it has once been...
[19:25] <histo> !who | Varikonniemi
[19:29] <penguin42> jakubo: Software RAID should automatically resync
[19:32] <jakubo> penguin42: and if it doesnt? or how long does it take?
[19:32] <penguin42> jakubo: Just checking, is this software raid with md ?
[19:33] <penguin42> jakubo: Or is this a bios supported raid with dmraid
[19:33] <penguin42> (note! dm != md)
[19:34] <jakubo> it was created by mdadm or the alternative install cd from ubuntu10.10 i think ... quite some age i know. it got nothing to do with bios
[19:35] <penguin42> jakubo: OK, so cat /proc/mdstat should tell you the current state of things
[19:53] <jakubo> penguin42: well it kind of does.. but it lacks detail. and i doubt that everything is fine, as i have to choose the correct kernel on every boot
[19:55] <jakubo> penguin42: maybe you can tell me if the setting with grub installed on sda and sdb is correct, because it has been on none of them at least there was no * in the brackets on dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
[19:59] <penguin42> how many drives do you have?
[19:59] <penguin42> if you want to pastebin your mdstat file I'll have a look
[20:00] <penguin42> jakubo: The thing I'd check for grub is whether the drive mapping agrees with the bioses view of the drives
[20:02] <jakubo> penguin42: its on a different PC than im using now... i have 2 disks, with 2 partitions each. one for raid level  (i.e. /home) and one with the rest of /  with raid level 1
[20:03] <penguin42> jakubo: OK, well mdstat should tell you if they're sync'd OK
[20:04] <penguin42> anyway, time for some TV
[20:04] <jakubo> penguin42:funny enough... it booted kernel 3.5.4.4 when 3.5.10.10 was installed long ago. which led me to the conclusion that they are not synced... then i made the changes with grub-pc reconfigure which f** up
[20:05] <penguin42> jakubo: yeh I can't remember the magic for grub setup on RAID, it's been a while
[20:08] <jakubo> penguin42: hopefully the problem will be gone after a few updates...
[20:08] <jakubo> mdstat tells me that both partitions are active [2/2] [UU] and that there are 65.... blocks
[20:10] <penguin42> 2/2 and UU is good - sync'd
[20:10] <penguin42> anyway, TV!
[20:20] <jakubo> penguin42: thx for your help
[21:04] <dubby> hey anyone, I had a loss of hardware functionality when I switched from precise to quantal, I have a planar px2230mw touch screen
[21:04] <dubby> that stopped working
[21:04] <dubby> lsusb and I do not see it anymore
[22:34] <danielkarlsson> Hi everyone! I need some help with troubleshooting. I run 12.10 fully upgraded and I'm having problem with memory leaks and 100% CPU usage with software-center and indicator-datetime-service. I've run them both with strace and the both get stuck in a loop with the message: unable to create file '/home/daniel/.cache/dconf/user': Input/output error.  dconf will not work properly. All help appreciated!
[22:38] <danielkarlsson> I just tried reading the file with less, and i get Input/output error could my filesystem be corrupt?
[22:38] <penguin42> what does dmesg say?
[22:38] <penguin42> the IO errors aren't good
[22:41] <danielkarlsson> cryptfs seems really broken :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/1156177/
[22:42] <dubby> well their is your problem
[22:42] <danielkarlsson> I might mention that before all these problems started my computer ran out of battery and didn't shutdown correctly, might be part of the problem
[22:43] <danielkarlsson> Seems like it's a user error, no need for a bug report :P
[22:44] <trism> danielkarlsson: which kernel are you on?
[22:45] <penguin42> ah - I don't like ecryptfs - it seems touchy to things like that; users do run out of battery - it shouldn't break your world
[22:45] <danielkarlsson> 3.5.0-8-generic
[22:45] <trism> danielkarlsson: just curious because the log message matches bug 911507 which is apparently fixed in 3.5.0-9
[22:46] <trism> danielkarlsson: interesting, might try to upgrade the kernel and see what happens (if you can)
[22:47] <danielkarlsson> trism: Thank you, I'll try that
[23:25] <danielkarlsson> I upgraded to the latest kernel and now ecryptfs works fine, thank you
[23:28] <ironhalik> btw - is CCSM working ok in quantal?