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codemaniachello team14:53
codemaniacthere is chaos at #ubuntu-in and i would like to bring your notice to some incidents there14:53
codemaniacpeople swear at each other at will , and i believe it is tarnishing some local image as well as Ubuntu14:54
codemaniacthere are no active ops present to manage the situation either14:55
Sidewinder1codemaniac, You may wish to ping someone; ikonia, perhaps.14:56
Sidewinder1Oops, I think I just did. ;-)14:56
codemaniacSidewinder1: thanks .14:57
Sidewinder1codemaniac, You are aware that there is an #ubuntu-ops channel?14:58
Sidewinder1You may need to address the issues there.14:58
Fuchsnote that neither the council nor any core ops are on the access list.14:58
Sidewinder1If no one's here. :)14:58
FuchsSidewinder1: -ops is, as far as I remember, for the core channels. LoCo channels is here, so as far as my memory goes, this is the place14:59
codemaniacSidewinder1: i have been redirected from #ubuntu-ops by some  ops there14:59
Fuchsand there is an active op in there now14:59
Sidewinder1Fuchs, Regarding #ubuntu-in? If so, I stand corrected. :)14:59
Fuchsyes15:00
Sidewinder1codemaniac, Oh, OK; they oughatta' know..15:00
Sidewinder1OK, thanks Fuchs. I was just trying to be helpful.15:00
FuchsSidewinder1: sure, wasn't meant as an attack. And as said, this is what my memory says15:01
FuchsI am not affiliated with the ubuntu operators15:01
Fuchsanyway, I am in the channel now, as staff is on the ACL, but it appears that there is an active op in there now as well15:01
Sidewinder1But you're freenode staff, correct?15:01
Fuchsso I assume it will be resolved :)15:01
Fuchsyes15:01
codemaniacFuchs: yea #freenode staff15:02
codemaniac:)15:02
Sidewinder1OK, I'm (obviously) not intimately familiar with the inner-workings of the network or the various channels and namespaces. I'm always learning.. There seems to be so muck. :)15:03
Sidewinder1much, even.15:03
Sidewinder1Interesting typo, now that I look at it.. :(15:04
Fuchsas far as memory serves: #ubuntu-ops is for core channels  (like #ubuntu, #ubuntu-offtopic etc.), and for the local ones (#ubuntu-in, #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu-fr, ...) there is this one here15:04
codemaniacFuchs: thanks for all the info :)15:04
FuchsYou're welcome15:05
Fuchsprod us if the problem arises again, but Hobbes` appears to be taking care of it15:05
FuchsI'll stay in the channel for a bit and watch15:05
Sidewinder1Yes, thanks so much for your time and efforts; greatly appreciated.15:07
Tm_TFuchs: correct15:07
Fuchsoh, a Tm_T15:07
FuchsTm_T: to bring it to your attention, #ubuntu-in has an (imo) rather broken access list, the council not being on it and us being the channel founder15:08
FuchsTm_T: maybe council wants to fix that, maybe not15:08
Tm_Tmmm15:09
FuchsI don't know your internal guidelines on that, but it stroke me as slightly odd15:10
Tm_Tloco channel, prolly not a place to force access list, but would like to see it following our recommendations15:10
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FuchsTm_T: currently the channel is owned by freenode-staff, which at least is slightly odd (it's a pseudo-account)15:10
Fuchsbut anyway, as it is in the #ubuntu-* namespace, if a group contact asks us to hand it over we will15:11
codemaniacFuchs: who are group contacts ?15:11
codemaniacthere is ubuntu-in team at launchpad15:12
Fuchscodemaniac: this information is not public, but those that are and are in here probably noticed :)15:12
codemaniacFuchs: thanks15:12
FuchsYou're welcome15:13
Fuchsoh, and Group Contacts are global, not for #ubuntu-in :)15:13
Fuchsbut the people on this group might be the right ones to manage the channel. But that I don't know, as said, not (really) affiliated with ubuntu  (slightly untrue, but gives the right picture)15:13
* Sidewinder1 Doesn't even know what a Group Contact is.. :(15:13
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Tm_Thmm, I suppose this is our relevant documentation  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IRC/IrcCouncil/Coordination15:14
FuchsTm_T: it's probably not urgent, I just wanted to bring it to your attention.15:14
Tm_TFuchs: ah, noticed now what you said about ownership, thanks15:14
FuchsYou're welcome15:16

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