[14:53] hello team [14:53] there is chaos at #ubuntu-in and i would like to bring your notice to some incidents there [14:54] people swear at each other at will , and i believe it is tarnishing some local image as well as Ubuntu [14:55] there are no active ops present to manage the situation either [14:56] codemaniac, You may wish to ping someone; ikonia, perhaps. [14:56] Oops, I think I just did. ;-) [14:57] Sidewinder1: thanks . [14:58] codemaniac, You are aware that there is an #ubuntu-ops channel? [14:58] You may need to address the issues there. [14:58] note that neither the council nor any core ops are on the access list. [14:58] If no one's here. :) [14:59] Sidewinder1: -ops is, as far as I remember, for the core channels. LoCo channels is here, so as far as my memory goes, this is the place [14:59] Sidewinder1: i have been redirected from #ubuntu-ops by some ops there [14:59] and there is an active op in there now [14:59] Fuchs, Regarding #ubuntu-in? If so, I stand corrected. :) [15:00] yes [15:00] codemaniac, Oh, OK; they oughatta' know.. [15:00] OK, thanks Fuchs. I was just trying to be helpful. [15:01] Sidewinder1: sure, wasn't meant as an attack. And as said, this is what my memory says [15:01] I am not affiliated with the ubuntu operators [15:01] anyway, I am in the channel now, as staff is on the ACL, but it appears that there is an active op in there now as well [15:01] But you're freenode staff, correct? [15:01] so I assume it will be resolved :) [15:01] yes [15:02] Fuchs: yea #freenode staff [15:02] :) [15:03] OK, I'm (obviously) not intimately familiar with the inner-workings of the network or the various channels and namespaces. I'm always learning.. There seems to be so muck. :) [15:03] much, even. [15:04] Interesting typo, now that I look at it.. :( [15:04] as far as memory serves: #ubuntu-ops is for core channels (like #ubuntu, #ubuntu-offtopic etc.), and for the local ones (#ubuntu-in, #ubuntu-de, #ubuntu-fr, ...) there is this one here [15:04] Fuchs: thanks for all the info :) [15:05] You're welcome [15:05] prod us if the problem arises again, but Hobbes` appears to be taking care of it [15:05] I'll stay in the channel for a bit and watch [15:07] Yes, thanks so much for your time and efforts; greatly appreciated. [15:07] Fuchs: correct [15:07] oh, a Tm_T [15:08] Tm_T: to bring it to your attention, #ubuntu-in has an (imo) rather broken access list, the council not being on it and us being the channel founder [15:08] Tm_T: maybe council wants to fix that, maybe not [15:09] mmm [15:10] I don't know your internal guidelines on that, but it stroke me as slightly odd [15:10] loco channel, prolly not a place to force access list, but would like to see it following our recommendations === IdleOne is now known as Guest336 [15:10] Tm_T: currently the channel is owned by freenode-staff, which at least is slightly odd (it's a pseudo-account) [15:11] but anyway, as it is in the #ubuntu-* namespace, if a group contact asks us to hand it over we will [15:11] Fuchs: who are group contacts ? [15:12] there is ubuntu-in team at launchpad [15:12] codemaniac: this information is not public, but those that are and are in here probably noticed :) [15:12] Fuchs: thanks [15:13] You're welcome [15:13] oh, and Group Contacts are global, not for #ubuntu-in :) [15:13] but the people on this group might be the right ones to manage the channel. But that I don't know, as said, not (really) affiliated with ubuntu (slightly untrue, but gives the right picture) [15:13] * Sidewinder1 Doesn't even know what a Group Contact is.. :( === Guest336 is now known as IdleOne [15:14] hmm, I suppose this is our relevant documentation https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IRC/IrcCouncil/Coordination [15:14] Tm_T: it's probably not urgent, I just wanted to bring it to your attention. [15:14] Fuchs: ah, noticed now what you said about ownership, thanks [15:16] You're welcome