[03:34] <phillw> hiyas xnox
[03:35]  * xnox only lurks here when mdadm/lvm/cryptsetup comes up in a conversation
[03:37] <phillw> xnox: one of the guys I run a VM area for found a new server system and released his VM back into our pool. A few days later, he said that it was a big mistake
[03:37] <phillw> He then asked if I could re-create the VM
[03:38] <phillw> I had his old ipV4 address still un allocated, and asked if he would be okay to run 12.10 server
[03:38] <phillw> He said that he would be delighted
[03:39] <phillw> I installed it and it hangs on the splash screen of four dots....
[03:39] <phillw> As to why the heck server edition 12.10 has a splash.... pass.
[03:39] <phillw> he has 12.04 working happily
[03:41] <phillw> I have one free ipV4 if you guys want to go play. It's on an OVH dedicated server, so you guys need to sort out stuff.
[03:43] <phillw> stgraber: was kind enough to pass me http://paste.ubuntu.com/1146080/ but as the server hangs on boot, it's not a lot of help to me :'(
[03:47] <xnox> phillw: do you have physical access to it / is it a VM?
[03:48] <xnox> boot second time -> choose recover -> remove "splash" => boot
[03:48] <xnox> or hold down right shift I think to access that menu on first boot.
[03:48] <phillw> the dedicated machine lives in France, I'm in UK
[03:49] <phillw> I have one spare ipV4 for a fully set up VM if you'd like to use it.
[04:08] <phillw> xnox: one of the things flagged in the recent survey from balloons (Nicholas) is that people consider QA to be "It works out of the box", currently 12.10 server does not.
[04:42]  * ScottK thought the splash thing was supposed to be removed for 12.04 server.
[05:30] <ariel__> can anybody tell me if it is a good idea to install lamp on my computer
[05:47] <andol> ariel__: Do you have a use for a lamp stack on your computer?
[05:48] <ariel__> well how much space exacly does there need be
[05:51] <andol> ariel__: Well, for an exact answer that really depends on what depending libraries etc you already have installed. But for the basic packages I'd say 30MB or so.
[05:53] <ariel__> how does lamp work like how do you configure it to have a web address
[11:17] <_johnny> hi, i have a "bad" question on lvm. bad, because i've never used lvm, and neither has my buddy, on the box he has. i'm working through some tutorials to try and see if i can debug, so.. sorry for the ignorant question:
[11:18] <_johnny> we have 4 drives, two lvms with two drives each. vgs shows one of them, but the other is missing. pvscan/vgscan shows only the one, and "in no VG: 0". all drives seem fine with smartctl, so i'm wondering if a switch in drive letters is at fault here? lvm is suppose to scan all /dev/*, so i'm not sure what our next move is
[11:18] <_johnny> (for reference, i've been using http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/appnote/19386.html)
[13:04] <njin> Hallo, Im in MAAS with w3m, but if I select Add node, below appear the written `is not found` can you explain if I'm doing something wrong
[15:55] <MoleMan-TP> is openVPN compatible with VPNSec or Cisco IntErconnect?
[15:55] <MoleMan-TP> anyconnect rather
[15:57] <qman__> no, OpenVPN uses its own SSL VPN method
[16:01] <MoleMan-TP> okay,
[16:01] <MoleMan-TP> thanks
[19:04] <i7c> hi, i would like to use disk encryption on my ubuntu server, but i dont like the fact that it unmounts /home when no one is logged in to the system. how can i change that?
[19:07] <phillw> i7c: can I ask why you would encrypt /home?
[19:08] <i7c> runs on an notebook which sometimes is unattended and it contains personal data
[19:09] <i7c> -an +a
[19:09] <phillw> i7c: a notebook running server edition?
[19:10] <i7c> yes indeed. an old netbook, just does its job perfectly :)
[19:12] <phillw> I'm still puzzled - When the server goes to sleep - servers do not go to sleep?
[19:13] <i7c> i didnt say it goes to sleep. it runs but it seems that when nobody is _logged in_ the /home partition is not mounted anymore
[19:13] <i7c> so if i have processes running that want to read/write on home i start them and detach them, logout and they dont work anymore :/
[19:13] <phillw> which means it is not running as a server, as they do not.
[19:14] <i7c> phillw: sorry, i didn't get that
[19:16] <phillw> i7c: using ecryption on a server is not the best way forward, I'd suggest setting up a LUKS area.
[19:17] <xnox> i7c: you can either use ecryptfs or dm-crypt (LUKS)
[19:17] <i7c> phillw: so i would install ubuntu server without /home partition encryption and set the area up after the installation?
[19:17] <phillw> i7c: what do you think encryption achieves on your system?
[19:17] <xnox> i7c: what do you mean by "unmounts home"? When you use ecryptfs the users home directory is unmounted, but it is only "/home/user" not all of home.
[19:18] <xnox> i7c: ecryptfs can be added/removed as needed. dm-crypt (aka cryptsetup aka LUKS) needs a separate partition.
[19:18] <phillw> xnox: I'd suggest that i7c does that, as an area to be kept 'seperate' is not the same as the maddening "do you want to encypt your home directory"
[19:19] <xnox> i7c: please note, when the partitions are mounted & unlocked (unencrypted) that means that anyone can access those files (if they gain root for example)
[19:20] <i7c> xnox: i meant that processes running with my user name can't access /home/myusername anymore after i logged out
[19:20] <xnox> i7c: encryption will prevent somebody stealing the netbook and then trying to access the data.
[19:20] <i7c> xnox: that's alright, i understood
[19:20] <xnox> i7c: yes. you can choose not to logout, or keep ecryptfs unlocked if you want.
[19:21] <i7c> xnox: how do i keep it unlocked? is there a setting?
[19:21] <xnox> i7c: http://superuser.com/questions/339829/ecryptfs-not-automatically-unmount
[19:21] <xnox> i7c: delete ~/.ecryptfs/auto_umount. Its an empty file so you can restore it with touch
[19:22] <i7c> xnox: i see! nice.
[19:22] <i7c> well i'll read a bit about ecryptfs and dm-crypt :) thanks xnox, phillw for your help!
[19:53] <Troy^> hey guys i'm putting together a 800mhz p3 ubuntu sever for the house i got two 80gb ide hard drives and i think i want to raid them.  in Raid 1 can this mainly be done by a software raid?
[19:54] <xnox> Troy^: yes.
[19:55] <Troy^> xnox: what is best suggested for doing this?
[19:55] <xnox> Troy^: use the installer, it has support for raid1. it will use mdadm
[19:55] <Troy^> oh ok
[19:55] <Troy^> that's perfect thanks
[19:56] <xnox> Troy^: manual partitioning is your friend ;-)
[19:57] <Troy^> i;m fairly new to the whole thing. have some experience. i think there is not a better way then to make a little server for the house. even though not exactly sure what i'll be doing with it yet. I should find some things fairly quickly though.
[19:57] <xnox> Troy^: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html
[19:58] <xnox> Troy^: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html#software-raid
[20:00] <Troy^> thanks
[20:01] <Troy^> I know for sure i'll use it to backup pictures, run subsonic music server, probablly a little webserver and possibly a teamspeak/ventrilo server..
[20:03] <xnox> sounds good. Don't forget transmission web interface ;-)
[20:04] <Troy^> BT, i assume lol.. Well right now I have a HTPC hooked to my television that uses newsgroups. It has SabNZBD, Couch potato and Sick Beard installed
[20:05] <Troy^> plus 80GB drives in Raid 1 doesn't allow for much space
[20:25] <Troy^> xnox: just to show you http://puu.sh/WT0J
[20:25] <Troy^> i have a 50mb download and a 30mb upload
[20:25] <xnox> Troy^: nice =)
[20:26] <xnox> Troy^: hostname.local should work on your LAN for nicer URLs =)
[20:28] <Troy^> yea i'm going to have to setup a dns as well. ip is dynamic
[20:29] <Troy^> oh i see my router has that option lol
[20:29] <Troy^> i guess i just need to sign up with either dydns or no-ip
[20:48] <phillw> Troy^: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw#Web_Hosting
[21:21] <xnox> Troy^: when you are on local network, you have zeroconf and you can access all your machines using hostname.local
[21:21] <xnox> myserver.local mylaptop.local etc.
[21:50] <internalkernel> I have a postfix relay issue - mail server has existing virtual domains, and only one is being moved to a new server.... I'm trying to relay that one single domain.
[21:51] <internalkernel> I've setup transport maps with: domain.com smtp:[mail.domain.com] and postmapped
[21:51] <internalkernel> I've removed the domain to be relayed from virtual_alias* and added it to relay_domains
[21:52] <internalkernel> I'm getting a mail loops back to myself error... and I've hit a wall...
[21:53] <internalkernel> Im looking at using relayhost - but relaying ALL mail would be bad...
[22:19] <internalkernel> indeed... one should remember to restart dnsmasq after making changes to hostnames and such...
[22:37] <daff> what is the expected behaviour in ubuntu 12.04 regarding the naming of network interfaces in KVM/Libvirt VMs? Since 75-persistent-net-generator.rules ignores KVM virtual NICs, how does the virtualized Ubuntu know which virtual NIC will be eth0, eth1, etc?
[22:38] <daff> is the naming/order based on the order in which the devices are defined in the Libvirt domain configuration?
[22:44] <Troy^> can you install ubuntu server from usb? also can you get an older comp to boot from usb
[22:49] <Troy^> also is there an alternative to puttty
[22:54] <xnox> Troy^: you can install from usb. you can try network/pxe-boot (see mini & netinst cds) instead of usb/cds
[22:54] <xnox> Troy^: alternative to putty on windows?
[22:55] <xnox> on windows i recommend http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/
[22:55] <xnox> which comes with usable openss-client & usable bash terminal
[22:56] <genii-around> You can also use actual ssh if you install cygwin
[23:00] <xnox> cygwin is too much when all you need is just a shell =)
[23:01] <Troy^> hmm network/pxe boto eh
[23:01] <Troy^> boot*
[23:08] <Troy^> hmm looking for a nice dont
[23:08] <Troy^> font*