[00:00] <ActionParsnip> shade34321: does dmesg | tail show anything for the insertion?
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> W4sp: ahhh thats how you do it without root recovery mode (mental note ) :). Thanks
[00:02] <zally666> hi again
[00:02] <shade34321> ActionParsnip: One sec and I'll check
[00:02] <W4sp> ianm_: That means you're almost there. Once you have created the file check if you're not using an xorg.conf already. The file is in /etc/X11. If not you can copy your ~/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf. With this nothing will have changed yet. You then need to see if there are parameters to modify the settings. On a side note, can we be sure the driver isn't loaded twice?
[00:03] <ianm_> W4sp: should it be in lsmod?
[00:04] <shade34321> ActionParsnip: yes it does, It shows both, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1154486/
[00:04] <W4sp> ianm_: Not sure if it is displayed twice. I can't check as I dont have hardware and the issue. Just give it a try.
[00:05] <Poindexter_> Greets to the nice folks here. Is there a software for Ubuntu for WIFI that opens up a web page when a local wifi user clicks on your SSID or an automatic page opens up. I have seen this hapen in a coffee shop a page automatically opens up. Any comments?
[00:06] <W4sp> Poindexter_: There are basically two programs available that do this for you. One is not being maintained since years I'm afraid.
[00:06] <Poindexter_> A URL would help though W4sp.
[00:06] <Poindexter_> Or a link.
[00:06] <zally666> Artemis3: ping
[00:06] <Poindexter_> I can modify the software once I see it.
[00:07] <zally666> i can add to the bash
[00:07] <Poindexter_> There was a StarBucks that used it. I was curious about it.
[00:08] <Poindexter_> It almost seems like a port forwarding program.
[00:08] <ianm_> W4sp: the generated xorg file doesn't mention synaptic
[00:10] <W4sp> Poindexter_: I would like to look it up, I know. I have ISP related network issues. To look it up see if keywords like hotspot ubuntu or linux give you anything. Sorry I canot remember the two product names.
[00:10] <W4sp> ianm_: That's odd. Can you pastebin the newly created xorg.conf please?
[00:10] <W4sp> !pastebin | ianm_
[00:10] <Poindexter_> W4sp at least we are on the same page. I was thinking on the same line of thinking.
[00:11] <W4sp> Poindexter_: I have successfully installed it for some hotels and it worked.
[00:11] <Poindexter_> I personally think that it might be a virtual network with a DNS server re-direct issue.
[00:11] <jhojho> hello all.  which channel do I join to request changes to a precise package? ? it would be a compile flag change to enable some additional capability
[00:11] <W4sp> Poindexter_: If you find one web page that's greenish or with green background I think. That's the old one that's not maintained anymore.
[00:12] <ianm_> W4sp: http://pastebin.com/Te893NQB
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> jhojho: could report a bug
[00:12] <jhojho> is that usually the fastest way?
[00:12] <jhojho> i was hoping for a path a little faster than that..
[00:12] <Poindexter_> W4sp If I find any answer I will let you know. I was just curious about it.
[00:13] <W4sp> ianm_: I can't look up at the moment. :-( The network link is too slow. The ISP is working on their routers.
[00:13] <Poindexter_> I think it is a re-direct issue.
[00:13] <Poindexter_> Of course a wireless router.
[00:13] <W4sp> Poindexter_: Please do come back with it.
[00:14] <W4sp> Poindexter_: The're some good cards out there. But you don't need to go wireless to have the web based authentication AFAIK.
[00:14] <Poindexter_> I was in a CAFE and I opened up my laptop and it took me to a webpage of the CAFE.
[00:15] <W4sp> Poindexter_: Yeah, then enter a coupon or something and you're in for 1/2 hour or so.
[00:15] <Poindexter_> No they wanted $5.00/hour to log onto the internet.
[00:16] <W4sp> Poindexter_: That's the same I installed for the hotels and B&B. That's why an accounting system is usually hooked up to this.
[00:16] <ChogyDan> Poindexter_: there are routers that will do that for you
[00:17] <W4sp> Poindexter_: Sorry I cannot assist you further as my ISP has its maintenance window I suppose. ;-)
[00:17] <Misan> hi folks
[00:17] <Poindexter_> Thanks W4sp.
[00:17] <Poindexter_> :)
[00:17] <W4sp> ianm_: I recommend you sum up what's been done and refer to the pastebin output. I can't help you with it any further as I have uplink issues.
[00:17] <Poindexter_> ChogyDan I was thinking on the same lines as a router programmable. Perhaps a CISCO router.
[00:18] <W4sp> Poindexter_: No problem, very welcome.
[00:18] <ianm_> W4sp: could be related to HorizResolution property of the synaptic driver, trying to figure out how to experiment with it
[00:18]  * W4sp .oO(hears cisco and get's orange skin). 
[00:19] <ChogyDan> Poindexter_: just a guess, but I think there may be a way to have your router use your computer as a proxy, and then you can configure your computer to proxy however you want
[00:19] <W4sp> ianm_: Cool, you'll get there. I'm sure. That shoudl address the issue.
[00:20] <Poindexter_> ChogyDan I was and am still working on a Virtual Network and have about 15 different OS and many servers on the network. It is based on wireless technology.
[00:21] <ChogyDan> Poindexter_: cool, I still can't help, sorry
[00:21] <kcah> hi
[00:22] <kcah> i kind of a newbie
[00:22] <kcah> having trouble with chrome on ubuntu
[00:22] <kcah> the flash is acting wired
[00:22] <kcah> how do i roll back to previous version of chrome?
[00:23] <Miggs> Hi guys. I have a pulseaudio/zeroconf question - I can find my network sound sink in avahi-discover (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1154444/ 5.1 Digital on xbmc@xbmc) but it doesn't show up in the list of devices in the sound control panel. paprefs is configured to allow access to remote devices locally. Any hints on how I can resolve this? Cheers
[00:24] <bkc_> Miggs: I can give you my config if you'll wait a couple of minutes :)
[00:24] <ianm_> W4sp: thanks for the help
[00:25] <Miggs> bkc_, cheers
[00:26] <benjo> Does anyone know why I would get severe mouse lag after waking the machine up from idle? Using Xubuntu 12.04 with XFCE 4.10
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> benjo: try unloading and reloading the psmouse module
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> !info xfce4
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> benjo: maybe because you are using a PPA for your DE
[00:27] <Misan> once in a lifetime, I installed Ubuntu to get the full benefits of real developer tools and have full access and controll all over my PC. But I ran into problems with Xorg, the GRUB Boot loader annoyed me and stuff like that. You must know that I am yet a Windows user and I am at least thankful for having a "stable" system with no fatal errors shrinking resolution sized when installing random things (like compiz
[00:27] <Misan>  earlier these times). After reinstalling Ubuntu for six times I decided to get rid of it and give up on it. And I think that it was not ubuntu what was the irresponsible awful monster. It was me who clicked on random package installer amazed from what ubuntu was capable to perform. that was like back in 2008. Now I am here to give ubuntu another chance and TL:DR; how can I install ubuntu on my windows pc without
[00:27] <Misan>  screwing my whole system and need to accept tons of things when booting my PC with grub or something like that. Also I would like to know as if there is kinda a list of perfect matching packag
[00:27] <Misan> es without screwing my whole XORG stuff :)   best regards - a future confused ubuntu user :)
[00:27] <FloodBot1> Misan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:28] <benjo> So would it have been better to stick to 4.8 until it's supported? And how would I unload and load psmouse module?
[00:28] <bkc_> benjo: rmmod psmouse; insmod psmouse
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> Misan: resize your NTFS (In Win7 if you use it). Then install to the new free space
[00:30] <Misan> Yes I use win7. How am I supposed to resize my NTFS and what is the catch
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> Misan: use disk manager, there are guides all over. You will then have a dual boot and can select the OS at boot time
[00:32] <Misan> thank you a lot sir :)
[00:32] <Misan> and what when I wan't to get rid of grub again?
[00:32] <Misan> is that even possible?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> Misan: run a full backup just in case
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> Misan: you can boot to your windows install CD and reinstate the Windows boot loader
[00:33] <Misan> I see.. thank you
[00:33] <Misan> I may first wan't to try the ubuntu via flashUSBstick like I did in 2008
[00:35] <builder> SUM=0 ; OVERALL=0 ; for DIR in `find /proc/ -maxdepth 1 -type d -regex "^/proc/[0-9]+"` ; do PID=`echo $DIR | cut -d / -f 3` ; PROGNAME=`ps -p $PID -o comm --no-headers` ; for SWAP in `grep Swap $DIR/smaps 2>/dev/null| awk '{ print $2 }'` ; do let SUM=$SUM+$SWAP ; done ; echo "PID=$PID - Swap used: $SUM - ($PROGNAME )" ; let OVERALL=$OVERALL+$SUM ; SUM=0 ; done ; echo "Overall swap used: $OVERALL"
[00:35] <builder> wrong chan
[00:35]  * builder shakes vigorously
[00:36] <Misan> I may also wan't to learn more about BASH
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> too many backticks for my tastes
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> builder: you do know that free -m   shows how muchswap is used....
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> builder: USEDSWAP=free -m | grep -i swap | awk {'print $3'}; echo "Swap used is $USEDSWAP Mb"
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> or similar
[00:41] <skeptnix> Hello, does ubuntu server 12.04 have some default that rejects route based networking.  I get one icmp response indicating the redirect works and then no route to host after.  Same setup is working with debian just fine
[00:41] <ebbers> ive installed ubuntu 12.04 a few times with different machines and everytime the audacity doesn't work right and the vlc program.Audacity doesn't record correctly and vlc won't stream
[00:42] <shade34321> ActionParsnip: Any other suggestions on my keyboard/mouse problem?
[00:43] <ebbers> went through several audio recommendations still no cure
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> shade34321: if you boot an older kernel, is it ok? If you set the BIOS to USB legacy mode is it ok?
[00:44] <ebbers> Has anyone tried to record audio with audacity in ubuntu 12.04?
[00:44] <dez82> Hi All
[00:44] <ebbers> Has anyone tried to stream audio with vlc on ubuntu 12.04?
[00:45] <builder> ActionParsnip: nah dude really? i just posted a one liner that uses the procfs to give you a per process swap usage report. i have no idea what the `free` command is though.
[00:45] <th0r> ebbers: have you tried removing Pulse?
[00:46] <dez82> I'm runing precise pangolin. Dual screens. I have 2 screens running in nouveau, but if I install the proprietory Nvidia Driver, it says i only have 1 screen andcalls it "laptop"
[00:46] <builder> does it have any other flags i should be aware of?
[00:46] <dez82> uninstalling the prop driver fixs the problem
[00:46] <ebbers> not yet what is the command remove pulseaudio?
[00:46] <dez82> but i'm running games which require it
[00:46] <michelfp> how do i install java?
[00:46] <dez82> and i dont want to have to turn the prop driver on and off
[00:47] <builder> dez82: dpkg --get-selections|grep -i pulse
[00:47] <dez82> ta
[00:47] <Suchorski> aptitude is better than apt-get?
[00:47] <ebbers> th0r:how do i remove pulse?
[00:47] <opti> where do i go for quantal questions?
[00:47] <michelfp> how do i install java?
[00:47] <michelfp> :S
[00:47] <dez82> pulse audio?
[00:48] <ebbers> yes
[00:48] <trism> opti: #ubuntu+1
[00:48] <th0r> ebbers: there are howtos on the forums
[00:48] <dez82> builder:  pulse audio? this is a video prob
[00:49] <builder> dez82: meant to say that to ebbers where he could see how to see what packages he had installed
[00:49] <ebbers> k im onit thanks
[00:49] <dez82> builder: ok, ta
[00:49] <ebbers> video problem??
[00:49] <builder> apt-get autoremove pulseaudio
[00:50] <ebbers> tnx builder
[00:50] <builder> dpkg --get-selections|grep -i pulseaudio|while read; do apt-get remove $REPLY;done
[00:50] <builder> if you wanna get everything
[00:51] <ebbers> should i restart after removal before testing?
[00:52] <dez82> anybody come across this nvidia issue and fixed it?
[00:52] <gunarm> Psi-Jack, if you are interested, it turned out that the problem was the permissions on /media/vault.  after a sudo chmod a+rw /media/vault everything works fine
[00:53] <builder> ebbers: actually just do `pactl exit` first
[00:53] <gunarm> i knew it had to be something silly I was overlooking since everything else seemed to be right
[00:54] <Jagst3r15> any way this is a ubuntu issue and not chrome's fault? http://tinyurl.com/97hw62w
[00:54] <Jagst3r15> only happened after i updated core drivers on ubuntu 12.04
[00:55] <builder> dez82: what issue?
[00:55] <brandon> I am trying to run an openssh server on ubuntu 12.04. Running /usr/sbin/sshd -D -d, indicates "Server listening on :: port 8023.", and the terminal stays in non-interactive mode. However, nmap says my only open ports are 53 and 631.
[00:55] <dez82> I'm runing precise pangolin. Dual screens. I have 2 screens running in nouveau, but if I install the proprietory Nvidia Driver, it says i only have 1 screen andcalls it "laptop"
[00:55] <ebbers> ok still have problems
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> dez82: do you have hybrid graphics?
[00:56] <ebbers> audacity is hiccuping every couple seconds
[00:56] <W4sp> brandon: By default nmap checks only <=1024
[00:56] <builder> brandon: pastebin.ca `iptables -L -nv`
[00:56] <builder> and that
[00:56] <dez82> just an nvidia 8500gt
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> dez82: what CPU?
[00:57] <dez82> amd phenom x4
[00:57] <builder> youy tried xrandr? http://superuser.com/questions/82593/dual-screens-xrandr-get-names-of-video-devices
[00:58] <dez82> DVI-I-1 connected 1280x1024+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 338mm x 270mm
[00:58] <dez82>    1280x1024      60.0*+   75.0
[00:58] <dez82>    1152x864       75.0
[00:58] <dez82>    1024x768       75.1     60.0
[00:58] <dez82>    800x600        75.0     60.3
[00:58] <FloodBot1> dez82: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:58] <dez82>    640x480        75.0     60.0
[00:59] <brandon> builder: http://pastebin.ca/2196266
[00:59] <KX1> what do you prefer, unity or gnome shell?
[01:00] <builder> gnome +cinnamon but im pretty lame :(
[01:01] <L3top> !poll
[01:01] <builder> brandon: i dont see any firewall rules that would be getting in the way, can you ssh to the port local? like just ssh -vv whatever@localhost?
[01:01] <builder> what nmap flags are you using?
[01:02] <Hetep-AFK> hey, is there a way to make a html shortcut from an image?
[01:02] <Hetep-AFK> like a png file
[01:03] <shade34321> ActionParsnip: there is no legacy support in the BIOS and no they don't work with an older kernel, sorry for the delayed response takes me a while to get around the lab with a broken leg
[01:03] <ebbers> seams like its related to sample rate
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> shade34321: np man, totally understand
[01:05] <brandon> builder: It looks like it was my router level firewall. When I ran nmap against local, I didn't tell to look at ports>1024
[01:06] <shade34321> ActionParsnip: if it helps at all, while ubuntu is loading, before it hits the login screen, I am able to use the keyboard to get to a VT but once it hits the login screen both seem to die
[01:10] <Hetep-AFK> anybody know how to make a html shortcut from a png file?
[01:11] <W4sp> Hetep-AFK: You can create a html page that points to the URI of that image.
[01:12] <Hetep-AFK> W4sp, am not certain that is the personal intention
[01:12] <Hetep-AFK> am trying to make a png point to a url
[01:12] <Hetep-AFK> an image in the personal library turn into a shortcut
[01:13] <Hetep-AFK> have a bunch of Star Wars planet images... am wanting to double click them to open the starwars wiki
[01:17] <array> hey guys
[01:17] <array> I hope somebody could quickly help me: I want to remove the yellow banner from nautilus that asks me to open audio or imaging programs
[01:18] <array> I hope somebody could quickly help me: I want to remove the yellow banner from nautilus that asks me to open audio or imaging programs
[01:20] <manas_b> hey array
[01:20] <array> hey
[01:20] <array> manas_b thanks for answering
[01:21] <manas_b> i do not use nautilus so not too sure about it
[01:21] <array> I know popping in a channel and throwing around questions is rude, but I cant find any answer
[01:21] <array> oh
[01:21] <manas_b> have you checked in the preferences of nautilus?
[01:21] <array> yep
[01:21] <array> there was no option regarding this issue
[01:21] <manas_b> oh hold on
[01:21] <manas_b> i do use nautilus
[01:21] <manas_b> haha
[01:21] <array> The usual popups I long ago disabled
[01:21] <array> haha :D
[01:22] <array> so I open up my phones sdcard
[01:22] <array> and it tells my
[01:22] <array> *me
[01:22] <array> this drive contains images
[01:22] <array> this drive contains digital audio
[01:22] <array> clogs up too much of my netbook screen and additionally, annoys me to hell
[01:22] <array> I mean this aint no mac
[01:22] <array> I know what my drives contain
[01:23] <manas_b> do you think you could take a screenshot? idunno if ive seen that
[01:23] <array> of course
[01:23] <array> ahm
[01:24] <JoeQuery> Hello all. I'm unable to apt-get upgrade due to an error "No filename for libssl1.0.0". Here is a paste of my terminal output. https://gist.github.com/3365121 and then https://gist.github.com/3390776
[01:25] <array> upload where?
[01:26] <manas_b> imgur.com is a good site
[01:26] <array> joeQuery: looks like you have broken packages
[01:26] <array> did you try to fix them with synaptic?
[01:26] <skpl^> does anyone know if there is a way to tell if my computer has any pci-e slots without opening it up?
[01:26] <monty_slate> is there a way to search for packages on the command line?
[01:26] <monty_slate> I would like to apt-get boost and it's headers etc..
[01:27] <array> manas_b:http://imgur.com/7StBN
[01:27] <monty_slate> want to install as I'm connected via ssh
[01:27] <array> monty_ you could try apt-cache show xx
[01:29] <array> skpl^ apt-get hardinfo?
[01:29] <array> perhaps it could show you if you have any
[01:29] <manas_b> i have not seen that before
[01:29] <manas_b> i don't see anything in the preferences that could have to do with it
[01:30] <JoeQuery> array: I'm using Kubuntu, do I need to go to a different channel for that?
[01:30] <array> manas_b me to. thats my problem
[01:30] <array> joequerry, no this is an issue not with your desktopui
[01:32] <JoeQuery> The kubuntu package manager doesn't seem to have a repair option.
[01:32] <JoeQuery> But command line repair options aren't working.
[01:32] <array> what is the kubuntu package manager?
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> JoeQuery: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1154589/
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> JoeQuery: it does, its just not in a nice command. Its available online though. I just have it in a handy script :)
[01:35] <cocooo> cc
[01:35] <array> hoe: try this
[01:35] <array> sudo apt-get --fix-missing install
[01:36] <cocooo> enta lazreg
[01:36] <cocooo> ana hamed
[01:37] <cocooo> rani hna lazreg
[01:37] <L3top> !virus
[01:37] <JoeQuery> array: didn't work. Same error. ActionParsnip: I'm about to try.
[01:37] <gerzalnet1> ok
[01:38] <skpl^> how much memory does my video card need to ru unity 3d?
[01:38] <skpl^> run*
[01:38] <manas_b> array: if you figure it out tell me
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> skpl^: not much, as long as the chip can run 3D under ubuntu it is enough
[01:39] <array> manas_b did you see the same problem?
[01:39] <skpl^> ActionParsnip: so 64mb would be ebough?
[01:39] <skpl^> or shold i get 128mb
[01:39] <JoeQuery> ActionParsnip: Running the script. Seems to be taking a while. RIP my system :P
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> JoeQuery: it will take a while, let it play
[01:40] <array> JoeQuery: hm, sad, you could always apt-get install synaptic and let fix your packages...
[01:40] <manas_b> array: no i can not reproduce that
[01:40] <manas_b> array: i tried looking at a folder with just png in it from a flash drive, the bar does not appear
[01:45] <array> manas_b:takes jpg and mp3 for me :D
[01:46] <manas_b> maybe some application you installed is making it behave this way :s
[01:48] <array> manas no, it always was this way
[01:48] <array> ubuntu 10.04 and mint 13
[01:49] <con-man> anyone else notice RES not working with Chromium in 12.04?
[01:49] <suprusxr> is there an MVPS host file/install available? or is my best bet to cut it up and do it myself?
[01:53] <hipitihop> I have a virgin box with an Asus P8H77-M LE motherboard, an LGA1115 based board. System only has one hdd, an intel 330 120Gb SSD on sata3. Machine boots Kubuntu 10.04 livecd fine from usb flash drive, but fdisk -l from tty2 only shows the flash drive, the ssd not listed. Can someone pls help.
[01:53] <hipitihop> s/1115/1155
[01:54] <suprusxr> oh that was too easy ---
[01:54] <suprusxr> sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[01:55] <suprusxr> and http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.txt - If anyone else is interested
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> suprusxr: gksudo for gui apps
[01:59] <hipitihop> I suspect the kernel in 10.04 wont detect my SSD but ok under 12.04, I need to stay on 10.04 for now, how can I get around this issue during install
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> hipitihop: what is the install issue?
[02:02] <hipitihop> ActionParsnip, general issue is 10.04 does not see the SSD so, so can't install, as it is not seen for repartitioning etc
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> hipitihop: what about in Precise?
[02:03] <hipitihop> 12.04, is fine, infact booted 12.04 livecd from flash stick, used gparted to create partiotion table + ext3 partition... boot 10.04 and fdisk -l does not see it
[02:05] <hipitihop> ActionParsnip, so I'm suspecting something in kernel either with the mobo or the drive. It is Sata3 drive, but have also tried running it on sata2 connector and still not visible in 10.04
[02:05] <lime_> I have been trying to load a Windows 7 iso onto a thumb drive, but keep running into issues
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> hipitihop: so why not install Precise?
[02:06] <lime_> I have tried unetbootin and grub4dos and both don't seem to work
[02:06] <cfhowlett> lime_: windows 7 not supported here
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> lime_: I've seen it possible with unetbootin if you format the stick NTFS first
[02:06] <lime_> in grub4dos I get error 60
[02:06] <hipitihop> ActionParsnip, it is not currently an option
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> lime_: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[02:07] <cfhowlett> lime_: but the one and ONLY bit of advice I can give is to use the windows tool http://windows7usbcreator.com/
[02:07] <hipitihop> ActionParsnip, and 10.04 is supported and recommendation is to wait for precise point release, don't want unity, other issues
[02:09] <MonkeyDust> hipitihop  if you don't want unity, don't use it, type !notunity for instructions
[02:09] <lime_> ActionParsnip: :) thanks I believe the thumb drive was FAT before I use unetbootin tool, and thanks cfhowlett I'll use that as a backup plan
[02:09] <hipitihop> MonkeyDust, sure, but need to stay on 10.04 for now. So how do I go forward.
[02:11] <hipitihop> ActionParsnip, not that I know how, but is it possible to bake a livecd/install that has 12.04 kernel instead ? or some other boot option incantation ?
[02:12] <JoeQuery> ActionParsnip: Script just finished running. Same error :-\
[02:12] <JoeQuery> E: Internal Error, No file name for libssl1.0.0
[02:12] <yeats> hipitihop: have you considered xubuntu?
[02:13] <hipitihop> yeats, apart from the window manager, what difference would that make ?
[02:14] <hipitihop> yeats, are you suggesting 12.04 based xubuntu ?
[02:14] <yeats> hipitihop: yes
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> JoeQuery: can you give the output of: sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a
[02:16] <hipitihop> yeats, thanks but it's not just a unity thing ... As I said earlier, 10.04 is supported, 12.04 recommendation is to wait until point release and other restrictions, I need to be on 10.04 Kubuntu
[02:16] <histo> hipitihop: you couldn't install a newer version of a kernel from backports possibly
[02:17] <yeats> hipitihop: who's recommendation is that?  I've been running 12.04 (X)ubuntu on several machines with no issues.
[02:17] <hipitihop> yeats, 12.04 release pages.
[02:17] <JoeQuery> ActionParsnip: https://gist.github.com/3391032
[02:18] <MonkeyDust> hipitihop  what exactly did you read on those pages?
[02:18] <hipitihop> yeats, I have also been running 12.04 on another machine ok to, not seemless but it has been fine too
[02:18] <namoamitabuddha> Can we use tar to backup the difference of the system?
[02:19] <namoamitabuddha> "incremental" but with the information of deletion.
[02:19] <hipitihop> MonkeyDust, something like "for critical installation, it is recommended you stay on 10.04 until first point release of 12.04" do't have link handy
[02:20] <MonkeyDust> hipitihop  link?
[02:20] <namoamitabuddha> MonkeyDust: He said that he did not have link handy.
[02:21] <MonkeyDust> ok, misread
[02:21] <trism> MonkeyDust: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_10.04_LTS_to_Ubuntu_12.04_LTS (for reference)
[02:22] <hipitihop> trism, thanks
[02:23] <hipitihop> histo, I like the idea, not sure how to achieve during an install
[02:24] <BrenRS> Can someone help me with installing ndiswrapper?
[02:24] <vram>  .
[02:24] <MonkeyDust> hipitihop  that is, because as of that first point release, you can upgrade directly from 10.04 to 12.04, until august 23, a fresh install would be needed
[02:25] <BrenRS> Pm me if you can help me with ndiswrapper
[02:26] <hipitihop> MonkeyDust, fair enough. Still leaves me with unsolved problem, why the 10.04 does not see the drive
[02:26] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: Only out of curiosity, why do you want that?
[02:27] <BrenRS> Private message me please if you can help me with installing ndiswrapper, thanks
[02:27] <cfhowlett> BrenRS: describe it in channel first
[02:28] <hipitihop> MonkeyDust, as I said, other restrictions not worth arguing over, I understand simplest solution is install 12.04, but it is not an option, so I'm trying to solve the problem using 10.04
[02:28] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: At first, it seems that if there's some driver for Linux, it's better to use that instead of the one for Windows.
[02:28] <BrenRS> I have a desktop I installed ubuntu amd64 on but I have it wirelessly connected. I am using the Netgear WNA3100 wireless adapter
[02:29] <BrenRS> I don't believe there is a driver for it
[02:29] <Bren> Hmm..
[02:29] <namoamitabuddha> Bren: USB device?
[02:29] <namoamitabuddha> Bren: USB wireless device?
[02:30] <Bren> Yeah I'm on my phone on this IRC so it won't auto update the messages until I send another so please excuse me
[02:31] <namoamitabuddha> Bren: Try to paste the result of `lsusb`
[02:32] <Bren> Huh? Yes it's a USB device, correct
[02:32] <namoamitabuddha> Bren: I want to get the ID of that device, in order to know whether there's a driver in new kernel.
[02:33] <Bren> Hold on, I'm going to use my laptop in a short while as its more convenient
[02:33] <Bren> The id
[02:33] <Bren> Like serial number?
[02:33] <namoamitabuddha> Bren: Yeah, get it from the command `lsusb`
[02:33] <Bren> The fcc I'd?
[02:34] <namoamitabuddha> fcc?
[02:34] <Bren> Is that L usb all together and all lowercase?
[02:34] <namoamitabuddha> !paste
[02:35] <Bren> For some reason it won't even recognize it. I
[02:35] <Bren> The blue light won't turn on
[02:35] <namoamitabuddha> lsusb
[02:36] <namoamitabuddha> What's the result?
[02:36] <Bren> I even have it plugged in without the wire extension and it's directly in the motherboard
[02:36] <hipitihop> I have to shoot out for a bit. Hope someone has a brilliant simple fix for me when I return :-)
[02:36] <Bren> lusb: command not found
[02:37] <bazhang> LSUSB small case Bren
[02:37] <bazhang> paste.ubuntu.com with the output Bren
[02:37] <namoamitabuddha> !paste | Bren
[02:39] <Bren> Okay found it. Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0846:9020 Netgear, Inc.....
[02:41] <Bren> .
[02:42] <namoamitabuddha> I see. I'm just searching.
[02:42] <Bren> Netgear wireless adapter ID 0846:9020
[02:43] <Bren> Okay sorry about the random messages my irc won't auto refresh until I type another message on my phone
[02:44] <namoamitabuddha> Bren: http://wikidevi.com/wiki/Netgear_WNA3100 ?
[02:44] <Treaver> Hey I know the recommened build of Ubuntu is 32 bit. But I have a 64 bit, if I use the 64 bit version what is the difference.
[02:44] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1965989    <------ Bren SOLVED
[02:44] <Bren> .
[02:45] <bazhang> Treaver, if you have a 64bit machine use the 64bit OS
[02:48] <namoamitabuddha> bazhang: awful
[02:48] <bazhang> namoamitabuddha, what is
[02:48] <Bren> Okay my problem is that I can't get ndiswrapper installed... Not what are the steps I need to take in order to install ndiswrapper (assuming my desktop is "/home/bren/Desktop" and the file is located on my desktop called "ndiswrapper-1.57.tar.gz"
[02:49] <bazhang> Bren, the instructions are linked
[02:49] <gry> hi. virtualbox keeps complaining that a 'vboxdrv' isn't installed or isn't setup properly. I don't have a '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv' file. How do I install that (12.04)?
[02:49] <jacer> Anyone have any idea how to do a whole x session over SSH?
[02:49] <namoamitabuddha> bazhang: http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-wireless/msg83255.html
[02:49] <bazhang> namoamitabuddha, its not my card, tell Bren
[02:51] <Bren> Getting on my laptop now sorry if I didn't see your messages
[02:51] <Bren> Please wait until I rejoin
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> gry: I'd ask in #vbox too :)
[02:52] <gry> ActionParsnip: indeed! :) they say ubuntu's version of the package is different; appears someone started helping in a longer bit however
[02:53] <ActionParsnip> gry: do you have linux-headers-generic installed?
[02:53] <RSWiki-Visitor-8> Okay hold on
[02:53] <JoeQuery> ActionParsnip: https://gist.github.com/3391032
[02:53] <faousa> eeee
[02:53] <JoeQuery> Thought I had pushed enter a while ago :(
[02:53] <JoeQuery> Oh, I did.
[02:53] <faousa> i need help with my poutsn
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> gry: after installing that, run: sudo sudo dkms install virtualbox/4.1.12
[02:54] <faousa> apt-get install puttin-generic
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> gry: source: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> gry: have you seen that page?
[02:54] <faousa> hr BrenRS
[02:55] <BrenRS> why can I not send anynthing to this channel?
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> BrenRS: you can and are
[02:55] <bazhang> faousa, ubuntu support question?
[02:55] <faousa> nai
[02:55] <BrenRS> said I was banned for a second
[02:55] <BrenRS> anyways...
[02:55] <BrenRS> uhh
[02:55] <BrenRS> Okay so the ID is 0846:9020
[02:55] <BrenRS> I have never used Linux before so you really have to help me out
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> BrenRS: and the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[02:56] <faousa> i need help someone?
[02:56] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: ndiswrapper is necessary now.
[02:56] <gry> ActionParsnip: I'll look at it, thanks
[02:56] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: It seems that there's no driver for linux for that device.
[02:56] <BrenRS> Output of lsb_release -sc is "precise"
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> gry: surely thats the FIRST page you would look at???
[02:56] <BrenRS> Which is exactly why I need ndiswrapper
[02:56] <ActionParsnip> BrenRS: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1965989
[02:56] <bazhang> faousa, whats the ubuntu support question
[02:57] <faousa> i bleed when i cry
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> BrenRS: is the system a laptop?
[02:57] <faousa> yes
[02:57] <faousa> hi t0mmy_dk
[02:57] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: I looked up some messages in linux kernel mailing list.
[02:57] <bazhang> faousa, WRONG channel
[02:57] <BrenRS> ActionParsnip, yes.
[02:57] <faousa> sorry
[02:57] <cfhowlett> faousa: I think you must be confused.  This is ubuntu support.
[02:57] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: Therefore the driver for linux is just building.
[02:57] <BrenRS> Do I need ndiswrapper? What about something called WINE?
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> BrenRS: then take it near the router and use a wired connection and get updated as well as install ndisgtk
[02:57] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: wine is used to run win32 programs.
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> BrenRS: you don't need wine
[02:58] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: You needn't use wine.
[02:58] <BrenRS> Err... I don't have one ethernet cable in this house long enough
[02:58] <faousa> yes i know but my jwubiorek is nto oaidfho
[02:58] <bazhang> faousa, stay on topic, no more nonsense
[02:58] <BrenRS> I have my laoptop to transfer files with
[02:58] <BrenRS> which is what I'm using now is my laptop
[02:59] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: Eh, you can download the necessary file from another operating system, say Windows.
[02:59] <BrenRS> Yes, my laptop has Windows 7
[02:59] <BrenRS> I'd use that to transfer the file over
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> BrenRS: the laptop can be moved so even a 1m cable will do
[03:00] <faousa> h.i i heavy problem wojth my kb,a, i ccanot wrriite a ffooorm t3fipc abbout gthhis, i jfjtrdised a usb jjekoard buttaa the prbllem perfkpesisisits234.
[03:00] <BrenRS> so you're saying I can connect the ethernet cable from my laptop to my desktop? o.O
[03:00] <cfhowlett> faousa: go buy a new keyboard.  fixed.  goodbye
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> BrenRS: you can transfer debs but if you need deps you will need to grab those and aga ina and so on, it gets messy
[03:01] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[03:01] <BrenRS> ahh
[03:01] <BrenRS> let me go get the wire
[03:01] <BrenRS> sec.
[03:01] <namoamitabuddha> brad[]`: See section 2.2
[03:01] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: See section 2.2
[03:02] <BrenRS> I now have the ethernet cable plugged into my laptop with the other end plugged into my desktop
[03:03] <BrenRS> Whoever was helping me, please PM me
[03:03] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: Read that webpage
[03:04] <BrenRS> You do realise that I am completely new to Linux? Everything in chinese to me.
[03:04] <MoTec> Maybe linux isn't for you
[03:04] <MoTec> because it's actually english, not chinese
[03:04] <BrenRS> >.>
[03:04] <BrenRS> Okay well whoever was helping me, please pm me.
[03:04] <BrenRS> MoTec: Everything takes getting used to.
[03:05] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: Chinese?
[03:05] <BrenRS> You aren't automatically an expert at something.
[03:05] <namoamitabuddha> !zh | BrenRS
[03:05] <BrenRS> ...
[03:05] <bazhang> namoamitabuddha, thats not necessary
[03:05] <MoTec> !gr
[03:05] <namoamitabuddha> bazhang: I pasted the URI to him.
[03:05] <bazhang> namoamitabuddha, indeed. no need for the !zh
[03:05] <BrenRS> Can someone please help me? Whoever told me to plug an ethernet cable into my laptop and the other end into my desktop, please PM me
[03:06] <hipitihop> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1154669/ & http://paste.ubuntu.com/1154670/ lspci diffs 10.04 vs 12.04
[03:06] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[03:07] <BrenRS> for some reason it keeps popping up with "Wired network Disconnected"
[03:07] <BrenRS> it keeps trying
[03:08] <MoTec> BrenRS: did you install ndisgtk?
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> hipitihop: ok , looks good
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> BrenRS: reboot with the wire connected, may help
[03:08] <BrenRS> I have no clue what is installed. All I have done was install ubuntu version... (idk, I downloaded it last night) and then dragged one file to my desktop called "ndiswrapper-1.57.tar.gz"
[03:09] <BrenRS> that's all I've done
[03:09] <namoamitabuddha> MoTec: Ubuntu GNU/Linux is for people from all over the world, not only for English-native speakers.
[03:09] <BrenRS> and change some settings like font size, the icon sizes..
[03:09] <namoamitabuddha> MoTec: Well, be silent of this.
[03:09] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: Is your computer connected to Internet?
[03:09] <MoTec> namoamitabuddha: it's not about language.. it's about an inability to read or to even try..
[03:09] <BrenRS> Just going to watch this video and see how it goes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbviIHY8iiM
[03:10] <MoTec> He's been linked the instructions to resolve the problem and hasn't even tried the first step.. I doubt he's even opened the link.
[03:10] <BrenRS> namoamitabuddha, I can't connect to the internet without this driver lol... someone told me to connect an ethernet cable from my laptop to my desktop
[03:10] <BrenRS> so I did.
[03:10] <BrenRS> and it's not working
[03:10] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[03:10] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: Section 2.2
[03:10] <MoTec> 10th time is the charm, maybe?
[03:10] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: That's enough.
[03:11] <BrenRS> Well, it's not working
[03:11] <BrenRS> still...
[03:11] <BrenRS> even with it connected to my laptop
[03:12] <IdleOne> BrenRS: with the computer that has a working internet connection open https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper , read the info, do what it says.
[03:12] <BrenRS> Yes... my laptop is what I'm using right now to connect to the IRC
[03:13] <subhadip> Hi. I installed Pybridge from USC and after launching it, it's asking for Host Name, Username, Password eetc. I just want to play bridge game, even if it's online. Can you help me with it?
[03:13] <BrenRS> Omg... I'm trying to install ndiswrapper-common and the install button isn't even working
[03:13] <BrenRS> I seriously don't know what to say
[03:17] <gry> ActionParsnip: great, the url you gave fixed the issue.. sorry that I didn't look at it first, the error message was pretty confusing and I ended up chasing things in a web search; thanks again
[03:18] <namoamitabuddha> bazhang: Regarding his faculty of English, !zh is highly needed.
[03:18] <IdleOne> really? What has he said that you were unable to parse?
[03:19] <IdleOne> namoamitabuddha: you issued !zh because he said it was all chinese to him. you going to do the same to me now because I mentioned the word chinese?
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> gry: np, websearch is your friend :)
[03:19] <namoamitabuddha> IdleOne: Nothing but I doubt he could not comprehend the wiki about ndiswrapper.
[03:20]  * cfhowlett OKAY!  Moving on now ...
[03:21] <namoamitabuddha> IdleOne: Fair enough. But I only see somebody said "blahblahblah is all Greek to me" to express that he was not able to understand.
[03:21] <namoamitabuddha> IdleOne: *say
[03:22] <bazhang> namoamitabuddha, thats enough. lets move on.
[03:22] <BrenRS> Yeah I'm not having any luck whatsoever
[03:24] <werkinsheir> Hello, im trying to install gnome3 but I keep falling back to classic.
[03:24] <bazhang> werkinsheir, what version of ubuntu
[03:24] <werkinsheir> 12.04 x64
[03:25] <bazhang> werkinsheir, thats already all gnome3
[03:25] <werkinsheir> I actually had it before but I had to do a fresh install as an upgrade form 10.10 -> 12.04 was causing issues
[03:25] <bazhang> perhaps you mean gnome-shell or gnome-panel werkinsheir
[03:25] <werkinsheir> no I was given unity upon the install
[03:25] <bazhang> !notunity | werkinsheir
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> werkinsheir: could just install xubuntu
[03:26] <BrenRS> Hello?
[03:26] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: It seems that the wiki page introduces how to install ndiswrapper clearly.
[03:26] <BrenRS> namoamitabuddah, This is my very first time using Linux, I don't even know what the hell I'm doing..
[03:26] <BrenRS> completely lost.
[03:26] <werkinsheir> Thats not a solution. I havea fresh install that would be counter productive
[03:26] <werkinsheir> well my problem is I am stuck in gnome-fallback
[03:26] <werkinsheir> AKA: looks like 10.04
[03:27] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: When I was first touching Ubuntu GNU/Linux, I just enumerated the commands to see what happened. I did not read enough documentations.
[03:27] <bazhang> werkinsheir, what happens when you install gnome-shell
[03:27] <werkinsheir> its already installed
[03:27] <werkinsheir> I am apparently using the gnome3 GDM but once I login it falls back
[03:28] <bazhang> werkinsheir, and so what errors come about when you select at the login window
[03:28] <werkinsheir> No error occurs
[03:28] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: That wiki page teaches you how to install ndiswrapper STEP BY STEP therefore it's not hard to read it.
[03:28] <trism> namoamitabuddha: it does leave out that you need to install ndiswrapper-dkms on 12.04 since the module isn't included by default anymore
[03:28] <bazhang> werkinsheir, you mean lightdm
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> werkinsheir: could install the xubuntu desktop, no unity there...
[03:28] <werkinsheir> the login manager looks like gnome3. It has the click in the middle of the newly designed style that gnome3 uses
[03:28] <BrenRS> So what's the version I have if I downloaded it last night, is it For 12.04 Precise Pangolin?
[03:28] <werkinsheir> *click = clock
[03:29] <cfhowlett> werkinsheir: or lxde ...
[03:29] <IdleOne> werkinsheir: check and see if Additional drivers offers anything, you might need to install proprietary graphics.
[03:29] <Elesa> Hi, can I install Ubuntu to a external USB Hard Drive?
[03:29] <cfhowlett> Elesa: yes with startup disk creator
[03:29] <Elesa> No, but.. like, a FULL install?
[03:29] <namoamitabuddha> BrenRS: You downloaded a source code tarball, not particularly for Ubuntu.
[03:29] <werkinsheir> oh yea that brings another point. I cant activate nvidia graphics with nvidia-xconfig. but that was another task
[03:29] <cfhowlett> Elesa: ... or not.  sorry, i typed b4 I thought
[03:30] <namoamitabuddha> *particular
[03:30] <Elesa> Are you sure? D:
[03:30] <Elesa> Can it only be a Live USB?
[03:30] <cfhowlett> Elesa: definitely can install to a USB
[03:30] <i7c> Elesa: yes that should be possible
[03:30] <Elesa> Great! I'm guiding my friend to do that, but I'm not at her side, so..
[03:31] <Elesa> Is Ubiquity going to do anything to her main hard drive? (her Windows is dead)
[03:31] <werkinsheir> okay ill have to brb to install
[03:31] <Elesa> It shouldn't install any funny stuff like GRUB, right?
[03:33] <cfhowlett> Elesa: by default grub is installed.  with advanced options at that point in the installation, you can choose NOT to install grub BUT - no bootloader = no boot.
[03:33] <IdleOne> Elesa: you will want to make sure you install grub to the USB and then make sure to set the BIOS to boot from USB, but no it should do anything to the internal HDD provided you select to correct drive to install to.
[03:34] <IdleOne> s/should/should not/
[03:36] <Elesa> Oh, OK.
[03:36] <Elesa> Just one last question.
[03:36] <cfhowlett> Elesa: ask
[03:36] <Elesa> Internal Hard Drives are usually /dev/sda1?
[03:36] <Elesa> or /dev/hda1?
[03:37] <werkinsheir> Installing additional drivers did not help. I was already using a driver for my graphics card
[03:37] <werkinsheir> I am unable to use nvidia-xconfig however; is this the root of my problem?
[03:37] <cfhowlett> Elesa: /dev/sda refers to an un-numbered storage device.  /dev/sda1 = 1st HDD found, etc.  same protocal for /dev/hda
[03:37] <IdleOne> Elesa: /dev/sda sda1 is your first partition. so if the USB HDD is /dev/sdb that is where you want to install grub.
[03:38] <Elesa> Wow, great answers. xD
[03:38] <Elesa> I remember there was a command to list the USB drives connected to the computer.
[03:38] <Elesa> Could you guys tell me what is it so that I can tell her and prevent a disaster? xD
[03:39] <IdleOne> lsusb but you might want to use sudo blkid
[03:39] <cfhowlett> Elesa: without knowing her hardware specs???  PROBABLY /dev/sda1 but ...
[03:39] <Elesa> I just tried blkid to test my own USB pendrive, didn't work..
[03:39] <Elesa> Or she can check with GParted, right?
[03:39] <cfhowlett> Elesa: exactly
[03:40] <Elesa> Yay. xD
[03:40] <IdleOne> Elesa: you need to use sudo with blkid
[03:40] <ace> really?
[03:40] <Elesa> Oh, OK.
[03:40] <Elesa> Pendrive was /dev/sdc
[03:40] <Elesa> Well, I think those were all my doubts. Thanks! >_<
[03:40] <ace> irc:// #ratio-free-movies
[03:41] <kwtm> Am looking for how to look at QCAD documentation; package name = "qcad-doc".  The command "apt-cache policy qcad-doc" shows that this package is installed.  "[sudo] apt-file list qcad-doc" gives no output (I just get the prompt back).  "apt-get install qcad-doc" yields the message that qcad-doc is already installed at the newest version.  How can I find the files from the qcad-doc package?  I just need to read them.
[03:42] <Elesa> Good night. <3
[03:45] <trism> kwtm: looks like it should be in /usr/share/doc/qcad/ if you are on 11.10 or less (could check: dpkg -L qcad-doc;), package seems to be gone in 12.04
[03:46] <kwtm> trism: Thanks for the tip on "dpkg -L".  I had no success with "apt-file list".
[03:51] <bz> holy scheisse, nasa.gov
[03:51] <JoeQuery> I'm getting "W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/doctormo/wacom-plus/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found" on apt-get update.
[03:51] <JoeQuery> Anyone have a suggestion?
[03:52] <bz> JoeQuery: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.lst
[03:52] <JoeQuery> bz: Will do.
[03:53] <JoeQuery> I'm trying to diagnose a bigger problem that's preventing me from apt-get upgrade. If you could take a look at those, that would be great. https://gist.github.com/3365121 and part 2: https://gist.github.com/3390776
[03:53] <trism> JoeQuery: latest release supported by the ppa is natty (so not precise builds)
[03:54] <JoeQuery> Ah
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> kwtm: try:  sudo updatedb; locate qcad
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> JoeQuery: http://ppa.launchpad.net/doctormo/wacom-plus/ubuntu/dists/    only supports up to natty
[04:00] <ActionParsnip> bz: the ppa only suports up to natty, not precise :)
[04:01] <bz> ActionParsnip: down to*
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> bz: if you get those, copy the URL up to the word 'dists' I bet that it doesn;t suppoort the release :)
[04:01] <bz> ActionParsnip: don't make assumptions, could be another problem besides that
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> bz: karmic to natty is supported by the ppa
[04:01] <bz> ActionParsnip: ah, pardon me, i thought natty was after precise for some stupid reason
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> bz: the link given by the asker shows precise
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> bz: alphabet ;)
[04:02] <bz> ActionParsnip: ye, i had to go 'jklmno..p'
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> bz: i do that too
[04:02] <bz> ActionParsnip: clearly i need more red bull
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> bz: can't have too much imho, tasty
[04:06] <CellTech> How do I 'un soften' the text on my desktop and stuff?
[04:06] <CellTech> It's cloudy looking
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> CellTech: ubuntu tweak can do that
[04:07] <CellTech> A download I take it?
[04:07] <CellTech> Oh. I'm on xfce as well
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> CellTech: should still apply afaik its gtk based
[04:08] <CellTech> Ok. Thank you. I'm searching Software center now for it
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> celltech: you'll need a ppa
[04:17] <MykleSea> Hi guys. does anyone know  how come my linux commands arent working through php? for example  ("exec()")  ?
[04:18] <bkc_> MykleSea: have you turned off the safety-flag in php.conf?
[04:19] <MykleSea> where is php.conf?  ive researched and everyone says php.ini safemode. but i dont have a php.ini... :( when i look for it. i find python.. i didnt set up the server unfortunately :(
[04:19] <bkc_> /etc/php.cnf YMMW
[04:19] <bkc_> ymmv*
[04:21] <Larr> hi
[04:21] <MykleSea> under etc. i found  php3.. i went htere..  i have confd...  and inside theres mysqli.ini..  mysql.ini.. pdo.ini.. and pdo_mysql.ini
[04:21] <bkc_> ooh... no idea about php3 :/
[04:22] <bkc_> I use php5 :/
[04:22] <MykleSea> oh i think i found it!
[04:22] <bkc_> sudo find /etc | grep php.conf
[04:22] <bkc_> ^^
[04:22] <MykleSea> well i found a php.ini..  i need to look for the safemode thing tho
[04:23] <MykleSea> it says safemode is already off! :(
[04:23] <bkc_> o.O
[04:23] <bkc_> well... what does it actually say when you execute the command? also, what command :)
[04:23] <MykleSea> it doesnt say anything
[04:23] <MykleSea> im trying to get it to execute a shel lscript
[04:23] <Larr> hi does anyone have idea why precise freezes? it stops working for sometime , but sometimes i've to hard reboot it
[04:23] <bkc_> well... obviously ^^
[04:24] <MykleSea> u know in notepad ++..  in a php file, when you type a function, it turns blue? it doesnt even turn blue
[04:24] <bkc_> Larr: what graphics-card you got? :)
[04:24] <Larr> bkc_: it's using 845g ,
[04:24] <Larr> built in thing i should say
[04:25] <bkc_> MykleSea: well... what does that have to do with php.ini? ^^
[04:25] <Larr> very old computer, made in 2003
[04:25] <bkc_> Larr: I'm guessing a really old crappy intel-carD? then your f'd until they fix the intel-driver :(
[04:25] <MykleSea> well i figured MAYBE even tho it doesnt turn blue..... it might still execute... except php.ini may have had safemode on.. which it doesnt =[
[04:25] <bkc_> MykleSea: pastebin
[04:26] <Larr> bkc_: even it doesnt allow me to send error reports
[04:26] <bkc_> I'm guessing this is more of a php-question than a ubuntu one :P
[04:26] <Larr> saying I have some obsolete packages
[04:27] <MykleSea> im not sure... it consists of both linux and php working together...
[04:27] <Larr> some time it just blinks
[04:27] <Larr> the whole screen goes black
[04:27] <bkc_> Larr: well... there are multiple bug-reports for that problem, on basicaly every distro... but mesa (or tungsten, don't remember) won't fix it because the card is to old... same problem on my GMA945...
[04:27] <MykleSea> anyways. this is my really simple code..
[04:27] <MykleSea> http://pastebin.com/embed_iframe.php?i=GpHuDfzG
[04:28] <bkc_> there's your problem...
[04:28] <MykleSea> ive done it without the "echo".. and also without the "sudo"
[04:28] <bkc_> sudo
[04:28] <MykleSea> it doens work without sudo either
[04:28] <bkc_> "You are not in the sudoers file"...
[04:28] <bkc_> wait... you want it to write the return-code? o.O
[04:29] <MykleSea> no
[04:29] <bkc_> and what's in 'test.sh'?
[04:29] <MykleSea> i just want it to run my shel lscript
[04:29] <Larr> i have been user of ubuntu since 2007, but it seems Ubuntu is also doing same thing what they accuse Microsoft of
[04:29] <MykleSea> my shell script simply moves files from one place to another
[04:29] <MykleSea> it works when i run it in putty / linux
[04:29] <MykleSea> so i just need to get it to run from php.. on linux
[04:29] <bkc_> paste the shell-script :)
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> Larr: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove    will remove unecessary packages
[04:30] <Programmer_> if i have grub2 installed should i remove grub
[04:30] <bkc_> Larr: If, by that, you mean bad support for old hw... it's not really ubuntus fault... it's mesa... as they have 100+ other bugs related to newer more actively used card that has to be fixed first...
[04:31] <bkc_> Larr: you can "fix" it by disabling composition
[04:31] <Belial`> will any newer versions of unity get backported to 12.04 once future releases reach final?
[04:31] <bkc_> Programmer_: well... that depends on what you mean by removing grub :/
[04:31] <MykleSea> http://pastebin.com/embed_iframe.php?i=8FGn7xAq
[04:31] <Programmer_> sudo apt-get install grub <- that one is the one i want to know if i can remove
[04:32] <bkc_> Programmer_: afaik, yes... but have a boot-cd handy just in case...
[04:32] <MykleSea> the shell script itself works. i know it does. ive tested it..  i just need to run it from a website.. thats all..  some kind of an administrator panel
[04:32] <Larr> ActionParsnip: maybe that will solve reporting problem , what about the other one, my computer freezes. i haven't seen my Windows installation freeze since ages, and this precise couple of times in an hour
[04:33] <Larr> bkc_: mesa?
[04:33] <bkc_> MykleSea: remove the 'sudo' part and try it... does the script do what it should do.... except for the echo-part?
[04:33] <allure> I'm having random logoffs and freezes on ubuntu 12.04 LTS. My suspition is that it has something to do with the video card beeing from nvidia... any ideas on how to solve this?
[04:33] <MykleSea> i removed sudo.   i have no new files in the test directory
[04:33] <Larr> is it a  graphics driver?
[04:34] <Larr> allure: yea same here buddy
[04:34] <allure> Larr, nvidia too?
[04:34] <Larr> they have broken it
[04:34] <Larr> no, mine is built-in
[04:34] <Larr> thing
[04:34] <MykleSea> and  no it doesnt  copy the files
[04:34] <Larr> but the effect is same for all
[04:34] <Sagenth> I need some extensive help, i don't know what to do at this point
[04:34] <allure> hmmm... I thought it could be memory, then I let the memory test run for a whole day and got no errors
[04:35] <allure> probably a xorg and vga issue
[04:35] <fijil> join
[04:35] <bkc_> allure: dump the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin and I'll have a look :)
[04:35] <Sagenth> installed proprietary nvidia drivers and now there is no gui showing up when I boot up
[04:35] <allure> ok bkc_ , just a min =-)
[04:35] <fijil> hai
[04:36] <fijil> system program reporting problem in my system
[04:36] <fijil> a pop up is comming
[04:36] <bkc_> MykleSea: just for starters, $ret=exec("derp.sh"); will assign the return-code of the executed program to $ret... not the stdout-put :)
[04:36] <bkc_> Sagenth: nvidia-xconfig
[04:37] <MykleSea> even if i did just exec("./test.sh")  it still wouldnt work
[04:37] <allure> bkc_, it's almost empy, must have rotated
[04:37] <Larr> bkc_: what about my Xorg log, doesn't it suit mine?
[04:37] <fijil> pls mention which is the answer for me
[04:38] <bkc_> allure: then look for ERROR (or [E]) and give me that file :)
[04:38] <bkc_> Larr: sure, fire away :)
[04:38] <fijil> pls help me
[04:38] <bkc_> fijil: more info and I'll try :)
[04:38] <BrenRS> Hello can someone help me with installing the Netgear WNA3100 driver? (ID 0846:9020)
[04:38] <bkc_> fijil: also, it's "please"... not "pls"
[04:39] <fijil> k frnd
[04:39] <Sagenth> bkc_ I get an error when I do that. " validation error: data incomplete in file /etc/x11/xorg.conf/nDevice section "Default Device" must have a Driver line."
[04:39] <allure> bkc_,  I guesst the only (EE) I see is [156962.630] (EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0) .. :/
[04:39] <Larr> ok bkc_ in a min
[04:40] <allure> bkc_, I can force the freeze/logout, though... maybe if I get it to fail once again
[04:40] <allure> ;)
[04:41] <bkc_> BrenRS: a quit google-search resulted in this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMYBWMD6cg8 ... please use google more ^^
[04:41] <BrenRS> Please private message me if you can help me with installing the Netgear WNA3100 wireless driver (windows) on Ubuntu 12.04 (USB ID 0846:9020)
[04:41] <fijil> system program  report error
[04:42] <fijil> please help me to solve the issue
[04:42] <fizyplankton> is is possible to renumber partitions? like make /dev/sdc2 become /dev/sdc1?
[04:43] <fijil> please
[04:43] <MykleSea> bkc.. so how do i just get my php button to juts run the script ? no return value.. no string.. none of that.. just execute the script
[04:44] <BrenRS> bkc_: The problem is that I cannot connect to the internet now
[04:44] <fijil> what is the cause behind the "system program report error"
[04:44] <bkc_> BrenRS: then use another computer and transfer it to a usb-stick or burn it to a disk
[04:44] <Larr> bkc_: http://pastebin.com/P00ThYgR
[04:45] <BrenRS> bkc_: The driver is a .exe windows installer
[04:47] <bkc_> Larr: [   741.281] (EE) intel(0): Detected a hung GPU, disabling acceleration. <-- there is your problem... I'd guess overheating
[04:47] <bkc_> BrenRS: not if you download the linux-driver...
[04:47] <BrenRS> bkc_: There is no linux driver... want to search for it?
[04:47] <Larr> bkc_: overheating?
[04:48] <Larr> sorry I don't know what you just said
[04:48] <BrenRS> bkc_: ID 0846:9020
[04:49] <bkc_> Larr: It gets to warm... and turns itself of
[04:49] <Larr> bkc_: so is it a hardware problem?
[04:49] <bkc_> BrenRS: google: netgear wna3100 ubuntu driver
[04:49] <bkc_> you will find it...
[04:50] <bkc_> Larr: it's a heat problem...
[04:50] <Larr> bkc_ so exactly what should I do , to get rid of this problem?
[04:51] <bkc_> MykleSea: tryr this one: http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.passthru.php
[04:52] <bkc_> Larr: cool it down... make sure your laptop (I'm guessing) isn't to hot...
[04:52] <BrenRS> bkc_: you're not getting it... I AM NOT connected to the internet
[04:52] <bkc_> BrenRS: well... of course you are... you're on IRC aren't you? talking to me... on the *internet*
[04:52] <yahooshua> Question on Wine: If you have a dual-boot (ubuntu and win7) is it possible to integrate Wine on Ubuntu with the Win7 partition? For example point libraries and C: at the libraries and C: on the Win 7 Partition?
[04:53] <BrenRS> bkc_: I'm on my laptop which has windows 7 on it
[04:53] <BrenRS> so therefore NO
[04:53] <BrenRS> I'm NOT connected to the internet like I said
[04:53] <BrenRS> I'm using my laptop for IRC and the desktop is the one with ubuntu
[04:53] <cfhowlett> yahooshua: possible?  maybe...but WHY?  You've got windows, just run your apps there...
[04:53] <bkc_> yahooshua: don't do that... I've done it... and f'd up both the wine-setup and the win7-installation...
[04:53] <allure> bkc_, now I'm unable to reproduce the failure... bleh =D
[04:54] <allure> things just don't break as we want it
[04:54] <allure>  
[04:54] <allure>  
[04:54] <allure>  
[04:54] <allure>  
[04:54] <FloodBot1> allure: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:54] <WACOMalt> hey folks, wondering how I can add LAMP serving to the non-server version of Ubuntu 12.04?
[04:54] <bkc_> yahooshua: alternative it to set up virtualbox and boot it from a physical partition... that is, if your computer can handle it...
[04:54] <allure>  sorry
[04:54] <cfhowlett> yahooshua: notr to mention that integrating the wine emulator with genuine win7 will likely cause a cascade failure worse than black mesa
[04:55] <rf_c0d3d> hello people
[04:55] <MykleSea> i dont think php recognizes passthru or exec as functions.. how come?
[04:55] <bkc_> BrenRS: as I said earlier... usb-stick or burn it to a cd/dvd... or floppy... if you have the drive/disk/size
[04:55] <bkc_> MykleSea: turn on debugging in php.ini
[04:55] <BrenRS> bkc_: You don't get it!!! It says to go into Ubuntu Software Center... how is that possible if I can't connect to the internet on my desktop? I am on the IRC on my LAPTOP
[04:56] <bkc_> WACOMalt: google, 'ubuntu desktop install LAMP server'
[04:56] <bkc_> WACOMalt: It's a simple sudo apt-get install command...
[04:57] <fizyplankton> yahooshua: sort of. i am assuming that your win partition is /dev/sda1 (if you know that this is not the case, tell me). type into the terminal sudo mkdir /media/win7; sudo echo "/dev/sda1 /mnt/win7 ntfs defaults,users,rw 0 0" >> /etc/fstab; sudo mount /dev/sda1. then in wine, change the c drive to be /media/win7
[04:57] <WACOMalt> bkc_: all the search results I find for 12.04 are about the server edition
[04:57] <WACOMalt> and start by saying "install server edition"
[04:57] <fizyplankton> sudo echo "/dev/sda1 /media/win7*
[04:58] <yahooshua> cfhowlett: I'd run it out of Win7 but I'd have to re-boot to do it. Or use VM to access that partition. Which I haven't firgured out how to do.
[04:58] <xangua> BrenRS: if you have an ubuntu cd you can install ndiwsrapper from it
[04:59] <jagginess> ndiswrapper is horrible.. avoid it as much as possible
[04:59] <jagginess> unless you really do have no choice to get networking going
[04:59] <fizyplankton> i agree. ndiswrapper is only for the absolute desperate...... like me. and i hate it
[04:59] <xangua> BrenRS: you need to mark the Cd as install source in Software Center>Edit>Sources
[05:00] <florian> Hello everybody :)
[05:00] <yahooshua> fizyplankton: a few others are saying it will be bad bad bad
[05:00] <yahooshua> bkc_: haven't figured out how to do that.
[05:00] <raymond_> I have a web app that's stuck on the media player area of the unity bar.  How do I get rid of it?
[05:00] <yahooshua> bkc_ have a page on that?
[05:01] <bkc_> yahooshua: virtualbox windows physical disk <-- google
[05:01] <raymond_> I'd like to do so without disturbing my other webapps, and I can't seem to find the answer on google :(
[05:01] <fizyplankton> yahooshua: thats why i said sort of. it CAN be done, but it is a terrible idea.
[05:01] <xangua> BrenRS: and of course put the cd in the reader :P
[05:02] <fizyplankton> is is possible to renumber partitions? like make /dev/sdc2 become /dev/sdc1?
[05:02] <yahooshua> bkc_: plus that takes up resources slowing down the CPU; right?
[05:02] <bkc_> yahooshua: afaik it's on the virtualbox wiki :)
[05:02] <xangua> raymond_: sounds like a 12.10 stuff /join #ubuntu+1
[05:02] <raymond_> thanks xangua
[05:02] <bkc_> yahooshua: ofc... you'd be running 2 operating systems simultaniously...
[05:03] <BrenRS> xangua, the disc is a windows installer.
[05:03] <bkc_> so... have I forgotten someone?
[05:03] <yahooshua> bkc_: I've googled all day long and tried a few things... OH! I gave up on it as I'm sharing a storage partition which if both Installs were running at the same time, it would corrupt my storage partition
[05:03] <fizyplankton> bkc_: lol. i get that feeling ever time i start helping people on irc
[05:03] <Larr> hello people! suggest me some good ubuntu version preferrably lighter
[05:04] <bkc_> fizyplankton: no shit :P
[05:04] <ariel__> can anybody tell me where the ubuntu server chat is
[05:04] <xangua> raymond_: but for the record you can add, delete, blacklist etc. that sound indicator stuff with Dconf Editor (softare center) and go to Com>canonical>indicator>sound
[05:05] <raymond_> xangua, thanks
[05:05] <yahooshua> bkc_: fizyplankton: cfhowlett: thank you
[05:05] <xangua> fizyplankton: Lubuntu is the lightest ubuntu flavor
[05:05] <yahooshua> byw
[05:05] <raymond_> xangua++
[05:05] <bkc_> Larr: there are no "lighter" ubuntu-versions... however, you have lubuntu and xubuntu... alse there's (at least was) a base-version which gives you a clean installation
[05:05] <yahooshua> bye
[05:06] <bkc_> Larr: but after ~4years of ubuntu, I moved to arch linux instead... much lighter as it's *clean* on install ^^
[05:06] <Larr> bkc_: something which is stable , ofcourse lubuntu or xubuntu, but it must be officially supported and should be stable , I don't want to headbanging
[05:07] <Larr> I have spent enough tim rebooting and trying to search for its problem
[05:07] <Larr> this 12.04 doesnt suit me for sure
[05:07] <fizyplankton> Larr: in the grand scheme of things, if you dont want to be headbanging, then why are you using linux? hell, why are you even using a computer?
[05:07] <bkc_> I run arch on several sharp servers... no problem, as long as you check the updates before installing them :/
[05:07] <bkc_> fizyplankton: +1 :D
[05:08] <allure> bkc_, yeah... it has freezed once again :)
[05:08] <Larr> fizyplankton: computer is supposed to solve my problem , I am not supposed to get it working
[05:08] <Larr> and stop trolling
[05:09] <allure> bkc_, only error I can find:  Xorg[1209] general protection ip:7fd4e8c060f9 sp:7fff808a2170 error:0 in nvidia_drv.so[7fd4e8ba4000+6e1000]
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> bkc_: is the RAM healthy?
[05:13] <bkc_> ActionParsnip: ?
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> bkc_: you can test the ram from grub
[05:14] <rio_> hi
[05:14] <Elesa> Hi again.
[05:14] <Larr> ActionParsnip: are you an OP here? I may want to report somethig
[05:14] <rio_> hwaat?
[05:14] <Elesa> How do I select where I want to install Ubuntu?
[05:14] <Elesa> I want to install it to a external USB Hard Drive.
[05:14] <rio_> I don't know
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> Larr: i'm not an op, try #ubuntu-ops
[05:15] <bkc_> ActionParsnip: I have no problems with my ram :)
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> bkc_: you sure?
[05:15] <rio_> yes
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> bkc_: when did you last test it?
[05:15] <rio_> secret
[05:15] <bkc_> ActionParsnip: ~1w ago?
[05:15] <bkc_> ActionParsnip: always do it when installing a new OS...
[05:15] <fizyplankton> Larr: if you urgently need an op, type !ops. that will make ubottu ping all ops. but its ONLY for a channel emergancy
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> bkc_: ok cool :)
[05:16] <Larr> fizyplankton: I was about to report what you said awhile ago
[05:16] <IdleOne> Larr: you can join #ubuntu-ops to report.
[05:16] <Larr> thanks
[05:16] <Elesa> Help?
[05:17] <IdleOne> Elesa: You need to select Advanced at the partitioning part of the install
[05:17] <Elesa> Well, I'm going to show you a screenshot.
[05:18] <fizyplankton> Larr: thats what i figured, but personally i doubt that the ops will get mad at me since that wasnt really trolling, that was just a light joke. and im here forn support, just like the other people here. some of the ops may even recognize me as a long time member, but then again, knowing my luck, they may not. if you took offence to it, i apologize sincerely
[05:21] <Larr> my problem statement is simple. Either I want my 12.04 to work for me, or some other light version STABLE os that will work for me
[05:21] <Larr> simple as that
[05:21] <Larr> I need nothing more
[05:21] <Elesa> Lubuntu
[05:21] <Elesa> <3
[05:21] <Larr> Elesa: which one?
[05:21] <bkc_> Larr: Lubuntu... or Xubuntu...
[05:21] <IdleOne> Larr: try both Lubuntu and Xubuntu, see which you prefer
[05:21] <Elesa> Lubuntu 12.04 or Xubuntu 12.04 o.o
[05:22] <bkc_> latest?
[05:22] <Larr> right now I am using lubuntu 12.04 , but I heard everything is same under the hood
[05:22] <Elesa> if your PC isn't very old you can try Xubuntu
[05:22] <IdleOne> Larr: that is correct.
[05:22] <Elesa> Yes, everything is the same. It's only a different desktop environment. Lubuntu and Xubuntu have lightweight desktop environments, but both can do what Ubuntu does.
[05:22] <Elesa> They are compatible with every Ubuntu apps.
[05:22] <Elesa> app*
[05:23] <fizyplankton> Larr: have you tried an older version of ubuntu? i am using 10.04LTS, and have never had any problems with it. since its been out longer, its had more time to had the bugs ironed out. you might want to give it a try, although unfortunantly, support will br terminated in 2013
[05:23] <Elesa> Well.. IdleOne
[05:23] <Elesa> http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=4713
[05:23] <Elesa> http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=4714
[05:23] <Elesa> That's what my friend gets.
[05:24] <Elesa> I'm not sure what we should do there.
[05:24] <Larr> 2013 , that's the reason I jumped from hardy to precise, I believe in LTS
[05:24] <Elesa> /dev/sda is her internal HDD. /dev/sdc is the external one where we want to install Ubuntu.
[05:24] <Larr> but I think I have to re-think my options
[05:24] <fizyplankton> Larr: are you using a server edition?
[05:24] <Larr> desktop
[05:25] <crimsonmane> 10.04 is LTS ... and if you use it right up to EOL, then 12.04 will have more time to iron out.
[05:25] <fizyplankton> instead of jumping to precise, stop midway at lucid. its less of a traumatic transition
[05:25] <IdleOne> Elesa: /dev/sdc is the USB. She can scroll down to sdc.
[05:25] <Elesa> Larr, if you are used to GNOME 2 and don't want to use Unity, you might want to use Xubuntu, since it's a nice alternative and similar to GNOME 2.
[05:25] <Elesa> Or you might try installing MATE. But I'd use Xubuntu.
[05:26] <Elesa> IdleOne: Then what? She selects it and..?
[05:26] <IdleOne> Elesa: then format it to ext4.
[05:27] <Elesa> But.. The /dev/sda won't be formatted or anything? I don't want to be responsible for a terrible mistake. x_x
[05:27] <bkc_> Larr: ubuntu is stable as long as you don't use testing... I'd say LTS for servers and just upgrade the Desktop :/
[05:27] <Elesa> She has to select the Format? checkbox, right?
[05:27] <jagginess> Elesa, backup.
[05:27] <fizyplankton> Elesa: correct. and if you want to make ABSOLUTELY sure, pull the HDD from the comp
[05:27] <jagginess> Elesa, always.
[05:27] <jagginess> Elesa, backup.
[05:27] <jagginess> Elesa, always.
[05:27] <jagginess> ^
[05:28] <jagginess> Elesa, you're new and will screw something up.
[05:28] <IdleOne> !enter | jagginess
[05:28] <Elesa> Well, I don't think she really wants to open her computer, so I'll tell her to disable it on BIOS.
[05:29] <Elesa> Thanks guys. =D
[05:29] <jagginess> no, just that time.. because nobody is telling her to "BACKUP".
[05:29] <ariel__> can anybody tell me the ubuntu server chat
[05:29] <fizyplankton> oh come on. at lease give her the benefit of the doubt. its not like she shuffled the names of everything in /bin
[05:29] <Elesa> lol
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> ariel__: #ubuntu-server
[05:29] <Elesa> rm -rf /* :(
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> !danger
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> !ops
[05:29] <berryhwite> data loss sucks. there are people who backup, and people who will (after they learn)
[05:29]  * jagginess wants Elesa kicked.
[05:29] <jagginess> Elesa that's not good.
[05:30] <Elesa> It's not like I told someone to type that lol
[05:30] <jagginess> geez
[05:30] <Elesa> Sorry.
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> Elesa: why even bother?
[05:30] <IdleOne> Elesa: Don't say it at all
[05:30] <bkerensa> Elesa: Please do not do that again
[05:30] <IdleOne> let's move on.
[05:30] <fizyplankton> could be worse. could be "sudo !!
[05:30] <fizyplankton> "
[05:30] <jagginess> there's always a curious roamers around new to linux wanting to try out stuff and bad.
[05:31] <Elesa> fizyplankton: What does that do? o_o
[05:31] <Elesa> jagginess: True, I'm sorry xD
[05:32] <fizyplankton> Elesa: bad things. the !! means repeat the previous command. inthis case is repeats your forbidden command as root. it will also bite you so hard in the butt that  you wont be able to poop
[05:32] <devilz> i just installed wubi but i am not able to connect to wireless networks through it can anyone help me plz?
[05:33] <bkc_> devilz: does the network-card show up in network-manager?
[05:33] <devilz> bkc_: how to check that?
[05:33] <Elesa> Wow.
[05:34]  * jagginess wishes trying out ubuntu in windows would mean a prepackaged vm with virtual box instead of WUBI.
[05:34] <bkc_> well... there's a nice button next to that clock-thingy on upper-right corner of the screen... press it ^^
[05:34] <Larr> thanks for your time
[05:34] <bkc_> jagginess: indeed
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> jagginess: could use virtualbox instead...
[05:34] <Elesa> But that would be slow with Unity. D:
[05:34] <bkc_> Elesa: depends...
[05:35] <jagginess> talking about suggesting for a uplift/replacement of a "wubi" download link.
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> Elesa: then use unity2d, or install lubuntu
[05:35] <jagginess> thing is often people come in later asking to resize their windows partitions once they've installed wubi..
[05:35] <devilz> bkc_: i don;t see options to connect to a wireless network there...
[05:36] <devilz> it only shows wired network
[05:36] <devilz> i guess i don;t have the required drivers
[05:36] <bkc_> devilz: then you need to install the driver for the network-card
[05:36] <Elesa> devilz, maybe you need the wireless propietary drivers.
[05:36] <jagginess> (at least seeing that it's a vm, they would know they are really just trying out ubuntu)
[05:36] <devilz> how can i install those?
[05:37] <bkc_> jagginess: and then virtualbox caprutes the mouse and puts them in fullscreen-mode... without telling them how to disable it xD
[05:37] <bkc_> devilz: google, usb-stick :)
[05:37] <devilz> bkc_: usb stick?
[05:38] <bkc_> usb-drive* ... some for of external storage-device... external harddrive works to
[05:38] <bkc_> or just a cd/dvd
[05:39] <devilz> bkc_: lol i knw what a usb drive is :P....i was asking why i need one?
[05:39] <bkc_> download the driver on the computer you're @ now... and transfer them to the ubuntu computer :)
[05:39] <Elesa> Umm.. Do all BIOS let you disable the Internal Hard Drives? ._.
[05:39] <bkc_> Elesa: havn't found one that doesn't...
[05:40] <devilz> bkc_: do i need to install windows drivers or there are seperate ones for ubuntu ?
[05:40] <Elesa> I'm trying to find out how to do that in the BIOS for a HP Pavilion G4 computer
[05:40] <bkc_> devilz: google... I have no idea what driver, any less what card you have/need... so I really can't say
[05:41] <devilz> bkc_: k i try to find it
[05:41] <devilz> bkc_:thanks a lot for help
[05:41] <bkc_> np
[05:43] <Elesa> Isn't there a way to make Ubiquity ignore the internal hard drive or something? >_>
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> Elesa: use the 'something else' option and you can partition another storage to hold the OS
[05:45] <Elesa> ActionParsnip, I just want to make sure that the internal hard drive isn't formatted by a Ubiquity bug or something..
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> Elesa: if you tell the installer which partition is / and which is swap, it won't use anything else
[05:46] <Elesa> W-Well..
[05:46] <Elesa> http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/img/1345353698Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202012-08-19%2005:21:42.png <-- So I'm guessing my friend has to mark the checkbox on /dev/sdc1?
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> Notice that grub is pointed at the sdc drive as well if sdc1 is the one where you want the OS that is correct.
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> Elesa, ^^^^^
[05:49] <Elesa> lol, how did Ubiquity know? xD
[05:49] <Elesa> OK.
[05:49] <ow> cool, TIL about !!
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> Elesa, sheer luck always check that box is pointed to where the install goes or where you want it
[05:50] <Penartist> Hey, guys
[05:50] <Elesa> Okie. I guess that if she doesn't touches the /dev/sda at all, nothing will happen to it?
[05:50] <RPG-Master> According to Disk Utility, my hard drive has "a few bad sectors". For about 3 days now my computer locks up and/or goes read only and I have to kill my computer and run fsck at boot. What's the deal and what do I do?
[05:50] <Penartist> I screwed around with the sound after installing 12.04 LTS on my gen 1 macbook.
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> the HD=sdc that is not the partition unless you want it there
[05:51] <knobcore> RPG, back up your stuff and get a new drive
[05:51] <knobcore> your drive will die soon
[05:51] <Penartist> Gnome Control Center shows my main output as "Dummy Output," and I can't hear a thing.
[05:51] <Elesa> Oh.
[05:51] <knobcore> penartist, run the alsa configuration tool
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> Elesa: it knew by looking at the existing partition table
[05:52] <Elesa> We want to install it to /dev/sdc.. Could someone please guide me/us step by step? I mean at the partitioning stuff?
[05:52] <Penartist> I tried unmuting all the channels in alsamixer
[05:52] <Elesa> I know how to partition that, but I'm not very experienced.
[05:52] <MykleSea> okay .. so i think my biggest problem is that php isnt recognizing the exec function... does anyone know why or how to fix this?
[05:52] <RPG-Master> knobcore: But Disk Utility had a little green dot, not a red dot next to the error message... doesn't that mean it isn't about to die and it's just an issue?
[05:52] <wilee-nilee> true if it saw not unallocated or ext type partition that makes sense.
[05:52] <wilee-nilee> no*
[05:52] <Elesa> ActionParsnip, I see.
[05:53] <knobcore> RPG, occasionally you may get errors and are somewhat still above threshold
[05:53] <knobcore> RPG, if you know how to access SMART data look for seek and read errors, that's usually a tell tale sign
[05:53] <qdb> hello. i added "/ " to disallowed places in etc / updatedb conf, that is a search command config. is not it heavily used by ubuntu desktop / menu search  and so required ?
[05:54] <jagginess> qdb, that's only for the locate command in cli
[05:54] <qdb> jagginess, hank you
[05:54] <RPG-Master> knobcore: Crap, Googled it and I guess it's has the potential to cause terrible, horrible problems. This ain't good. :(
[05:54] <qdb> thank you
[05:55] <jagginess> qdb, unless you're talking about a front-end to locate for something on desktop, there are alternatives to this so that users can have ~ in their search database..
[05:55] <Penartist> The alsa configuration tool doesn't do anything for the sound on my laptop.
[05:55] <knobcore> RPG, yeah once you start getting bad sectors on your disk it's time to throw it out and get a new one... they're relatively cheap these days
[05:55] <Penartist> Can't hear a thing and can't switch my output away from Dummy Output.
[05:55] <jagginess> qdb, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_search_engines#Desktop_search_engines
[05:56] <qdb> jagginess, i thnk also menu search and nautilus search work without it
[05:56] <Guest28673> hey guys
[05:56] <jagginess> qdb, some of them listed may already be packaged in ubuntu
[05:56] <knobcore> RPG, It might work for a month, it might work for two weeks but when you're freezing and your disk is dumping errors it's a serious drive issue even if it's above failing threshold
[05:57] <RPG-Master> knobcore: Thanks for the help... thankfully I have my school supplied Macbook, so this desktop, while used often, isn't my only comp.
[05:57] <Elesa> ActionParsnip, can I PM you?
[05:57] <raju> i am not seeing anything here ?
[05:57] <raju> any body here ?
[05:58] <RPG-Master> But being the broke college kid that I am, it could be awhile before that drive gets replaced.
[05:58] <knobcore> RPG, how many gigs of RAM do you have?
[05:58] <Elesa> Or wilee-nilee?
[06:00] <Penartist> Does anyone know how to fix my sound problems?
[06:00] <Penartist> alsa config isn't working.
[06:00] <knobcore> penartist, what is alsa config saying
[06:00] <Penartist> I ran the alsa mixer and unmued all my sound channels
[06:00] <RPG-Master> knobcore: This comp has 8gigs.
[06:01] <Penartist> the internal speakers used to work.
[06:01] <knobcore> RPG, i'll get flamed for this but throw puppy linux on a flash drive and use a few gigs as a RAM disk ;)
[06:02] <arzhar> hello
[06:02] <arzhar> can anyone help with a rdf issue ?
[06:02] <arzhar> rdp*
[06:02] <knobcore> penartist, that shouldn't make much of a difference if you just unmuted channels
[06:02] <crimsonmane> arzhar: whats up
[06:02] <arzhar> i am trying to connect to my computer via rdp and all i get is blank screen. it works fine if i connect from a windows machine
[06:03] <jagginess> arzhar, xfreerdp is better
[06:03] <crimsonmane> arzhar: what program are you using?
[06:03] <arzhar> the server or for connecting ?
[06:03] <jagginess> arzhar, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeRDP -- but its been ages since i played with m$rdp..
[06:03] <crimsonmane> arzhar: for connecting
[06:03] <arzhar> terminal server client
[06:04] <crimsonmane> i know nothing about that. i've used Remmina (it supports every protocol)
[06:04] <arzhar> well i think it is because of compiz
[06:04] <RPG-Master> knobcore: hmmm... I'll think about that. Thanks for the help.
[06:04] <arzhar> does remmina support it or have an option to run without it ?
[06:04] <crimsonmane> without compiz?
[06:05] <RPG-Master> I'm off to go look at prices for a new hard drive...
[06:05] <arzhar> yes
[06:05] <Penartist> knobcore: what exactly should I run here?
[06:05] <crimsonmane> remmina doesn't give a rip
[06:05] <arzhar> a what ?
[06:05] <crimsonmane> a rip... a nice polite way of swearing in front of kids (who might be in the channel)
[06:05] <Penartist> The internal speakers stopped working when I switched my output mode in the control panel.
[06:05] <arzhar> haha
[06:05] <knobcore> penartist, does your system see the sound device at all?
[06:05] <Treaver> Can someone help me when installing Ubuntu one
[06:05] <knobcore> ohhhhh
[06:06] <knobcore> penartist, did you switch it to digital?
[06:06] <arzhar> hm i might give it a try then
[06:06] <knobcore> penartist, if you've switched it to digital it should be analog
[06:06] <Penartist> It's Analog Stereo Duplex right now
[06:06] <knobcore> weird
[06:06] <crimsonmane> do you know the difference between analog and digital?
[06:07] <Treaver> I keep getting error when I try to install ubuntu one
[06:07] <knobcore> crimsonmane, are you talking to me or penartist?
[06:07] <knobcore> :P
[06:07] <crimsonmane> kinda both...
[06:07] <Penartist> I'm running Fluxbox; in Unity, Gnome Control Panel displays two other outputs
[06:07] <Penartist> other than Dummy Output, that is
[06:07] <Penartist> i can't switch to them though.
[06:08] <Penartist> it stays on dummy output
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> Penartist: if you run:  alsamixer  and use F6 can you switch
[06:08] <crimsonmane> Penartist: two tabs to the left should be another input/output screen
[06:09] <Elesa> ActionParsnip, can I PM you? Please D:
[06:09] <knobcore> crimsonmane, analog is the actual wave measured in voltage... digital is a pulse wave that is useless unless you have a DAC
[06:09] <tomtomtom> have you guys experience the update manager just won't update
[06:09] <Penartist> I've only got the defualt
[06:09] <Penartist> HDA Intel
[06:09] <crimsonmane> tomtomtom: that's why i use command line to update
[06:09] <tomtomtom> it  just stay there with message like " waiting for apply..."
[06:10] <crimsonmane> Penartist: are you comfortable allowing someone a remote connection to fix the sound?
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> Elesa: sure
[06:10] <Elesa> Or anyone else who has installed Ubuntu to a external hard drive?
[06:10] <tomtomtom> crimsonmane and how to do that ?
[06:10] <Elesa> Okies! Thanks.
[06:10] <arzhar_> remmina didnt work either ;p
[06:10] <arzhar_> still black screen
[06:10] <crimsonmane> tomtomtom: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" without the quotes
[06:10] <Penartist> crimsonmane: okay.
[06:10] <crimsonmane> arzhar: then i can be of no further assistance
[06:10] <tomtomtom> i don't want a upgrade but update only
[06:10] <crimsonmane> Penartist: download TeamViewer - i recommend the no-install-needed package
[06:11] <MykleSea> does anyone know why some of my php functions dont work which interact with linux?  e.g. ("exec()")
[06:11] <crimsonmane> tomtomtom: don't be confused. "update" means update the list of items, "upgrade" means update the programs to current versions.
[06:11] <drw158> Problem: I am trying to install ubuntu on my older dell tower that used to be a server (2 HDs). it has no OS on it. I made usb stick with the installation image on it, and the installation process went fine. I restarted it with the boot priority on the HD via BIOS. it returns an error saying that it can't find anything to boot :(
[06:12] <crimsonmane> tomtomtom: note - shut down software manager, update manager, or synaptic package manager - only one app at a time can access apt-get
[06:13] <tomtomtom> ok thanks
[06:13] <Treaver> Hey
[06:13] <Treaver> Does anyone know how I can get a messenger like in Fedora. Like if I'm talking to someone it will popup a notification and I can reply in that notification
[06:14] <crimsonmane> KDE's notification area has a button to view/reply to instant messages
[06:15] <xangua> Treaver: are you refering to gnome-shell¿
[06:15] <Treaver> xangua, I just want a messenger that will let me reply easily from the notification
[06:15] <crimsonmane> pidgin is a fantastic instant messenger
[06:15] <Treaver> Like in fedora the notifcation pops up on bottom and I can click on it and reply from there
[06:16] <Penartist> crimsonmane: TeamViewer is up.
[06:16] <crimsonmane> Treaver: maybe get in the fedora irc and ask them what that is.
[06:16] <xangua> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lepXx1kDelo are you refering to this¿ Treaver
[06:17] <Treaver> YEs
[06:17] <paolooo> hi @all, can anyone help me about my partition, I'm not sure if I have a correct partition? http://imgur.com/oFCzO
[06:17] <crimsonmane> Penartist: send me a private message with your username and password that teamviewer gave you
[06:17] <xangua> !nounity | Treaver that is gnome-shell
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> Treaver: just install gnome-panel and log off then select the new session, if you like the 2 panel desktop use Xubuntu
[06:18] <Treaver> Will I still have the left dash bar?
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> Treaver: no, that is a Unity feature
[06:19] <Treaver> I mean I love Ubuntu as it is now, I just want that one chat feature.
[06:21] <paolooo> hi @all, can please any tell me if I have a correct partition? --> http://imgur.com/oFCzO
[06:22] <Treaver> So I installed Gnome-shell
[06:22] <Treaver> Will I be able to instantly be able to chat by clickign the notification?
[06:24] <timfrost> paolooo: That partition table looks valid.  It is unusual to not use sda1, but if the system boots then you are OK.
[06:25] <paolooo> timfrost: Thank you very much. Do I need to change sda2 to sda1?
[06:27] <kanha> i want to  Make /var/www/socnet as the apache root directory what changes do i need to do in /etc/apcahe2/httpd.conf?
[06:27] <paolooo> timfrost: I was planning to have a partition like windows drive C:, D:, and E:. Drives in ubuntu are designated as /sda(:int) right?
[06:28] <chroot_> hi, is there any goood text books about computer hardware?
[06:29] <bkc_> chroot_: lots
[06:29] <timfrost> paolooo: you don't need to change sda2 to sda1.  Drive designations are complex to explain.  There are 4 partitions described in the disk MBR.  To get more than 4, you need one of the first 4 to be marked' Extended', and logical partitions defined inside the extended partitrion
[06:30] <chroot_> bkc_: for example
[06:30] <chroot_> bkc_: i need english edition
[06:31] <paolooo> timfrost: I see. Thanks tim. hmmm.
[06:31] <bkc_> chroot_: none that I can recommend at the top of my head... but there are *lots* of good HW-books :)
[06:32] <chroot_> ok, i understand, i am a student, i just want to learn it
[06:33] <iDonev> Anyone willing to help a complete newbie?
[06:33] <Moonlightning> !ask | iDonev
[06:34] <BrenRS_> I entered "sudo dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb" and it returned "dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process"
[06:34] <BrenRS_> help?
[06:35] <KM0201> BrenRS_: are you running update manager, or do you have synaptic open>
[06:35] <Moonlightning> BrenRS_: sounds like something else is already using `dpkg` or `apt-<something>`. Arey ou trying to install|remove|update something else?
[06:35] <KM0201> something else is using root.
[06:35] <BrenRS_> yes
[06:35] <BrenRS_> I am running update manager :\
[06:35] <paolooo> hi @all, Is there a tutorial video on how to install ubuntu correctly? I'm currently using ubuntu but I'm not sure my partitions are correctly installed.
[06:35] <BrenRS_> I'll wait until skype installs
[06:35] <BrenRS_> :P
[06:35] <Moonlightning> Wait for that to finish, then try again.
[06:35] <FloodBot1> BrenRS_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:35] <BrenRS_> why is it taking so long?
[06:36] <KM0201> BrenRS_: how are you installing it?
[06:36] <iDonev> I'm using VMware Fusion to run Ubuntu and I can't figure out how to install VMware Tools. Can anyone help me?
[06:36] <BrenRS_> how do I create a google chrome shortcut on my Launcher?
[06:37] <KM0201> BrenRS_: open up google chrome, right click it, and choose "lock it" (or something like that)
[06:37] <BrenRS_> oh wait, it returned "Errors were encountered while processing: google-chrome-stable"
[06:37] <KM0201> BrenRS_: did you try installing the google chrome .deb file?
[06:38] <BrenRS_> no, I saved the deb file to my desktop and used the command line "sudo dpkg -i googlechromefilenamehere.deb"
[06:38] <BrenRS_> obviously with the correct file name :P
[06:38] <Moonlightning> iDonev: what OS is the host (the main computer) running?
[06:39] <KM0201> BrenRS_: why are you doing that, use the repositories, thats what they are for.
[06:39] <KM0201> for what its worth, skype just installed in about 2min.. :)
[06:39] <iDonev> OS X
[06:40] <iDonev> OS X 10.8
[06:40] <BrenRS_> okay I believe the bad audio quality is because of me not having the correct audio driver?
[06:40] <BrenRS_> let me test something
[06:41] <Moonlightning> iDonev: have you tried going through http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?cmd=displayKC&externalId=1022525 ?
[06:42] <KM0201> damn, i just relaized skype 4.0 is finally out for Linux
[06:42] <plague> Hi, anyone please could help me with smb.conf? I just want to share certain folder over LAN, but to enter it id liket hat user need to enter login/passwd?
[06:42] <KM0201> plague: thats pretty easy.
[06:43] <KM0201> plague: first, you'll need to create that user on the host.
[06:43] <plague> plague well i have headless 12.04 so cant use GUI
[06:43] <KM0201> plague: it's just as easy w/o a GUI
[06:43] <plague> KM0201 ok crating user is pretty easy
[06:43] <KM0201> plague: ok, so first create a user
[06:44] <plague> KM0201 next?
[06:45] <KM0201> plague: sudo smbpasswd -L -a username    (you'll be asked to enter and confirm a password for the user)
[06:45] <plague> I forget to tell other PC is windows box I hope that does not make it harder.
[06:45] <KM0201> plague: it doesn't
[06:46] <BrenRS_> Okay how do I install flash player after I extracted it?
[06:46] <KM0201> BrenRS_: you need to learn to use the repositories.. you're making stuff way to hard on yourself
[06:46] <BrenRS_> how do I install flash then?
[06:46] <KM0201> !flash
[06:47] <xangua> BrenRS_: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[06:47] <KM0201> xangua: well, thats assuming he has 64bit... i think 32bit, its still in ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:47] <plague> KM0201 done
[06:48] <KM0201> plague: sudo smbpasswd -L -e username    this will add the user to the samba group
[06:49] <AL13N> http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/18/oracle-makes-more-moves-to-kill-open-source-mysql/
[06:49] <plague> KM0201 ok it says user enabled
[06:50] <KM0201> plague: now.... sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf  (that should open up your samba configuration file)
[06:50] <Moonlightning> I have a problem with the graphics…I'm not really sure how to describe it, but it looks more or less like /this/ wallpaper ( http://cl.ly/IqDo ), except that the entire screen is like that.
[06:50] <plague> KM0201 opened
[06:51] <BrenRS_> wow. -.-
[06:51] <BrenRS_> ndiswrapper was working fine on my desktop until I restarted it
[06:51] <BrenRS_> now when I type "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper", it returns "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found."
[06:51] <KM0201> plague: scroll to the very bottom, and add this (be sure to change the username, and set the description name.. to keep it simple, don't use spaces in the description name)...   http://pastebin.com/txTMNB9H
[06:51] <hipitihop> I have 10.04 which does not see my SSD and 12.04 which does. for various reasons I need to install 10.04 listings from lspci here if anyone can help 10.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1154669/ & 12.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1154670/
[06:51] <AL13N> all distro's should have mariadb as default mysql provider
[06:53] <Myrtti> AL13N: thanks for the input, but this is a support channel
[06:55] <BrenRS_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1154865/
[06:55] <KM0201> plague: by the way, what are you using Ubuntu server for?
[06:55] <plague> KM0201 well have several purposes
[06:55] <KM0201> like?
[06:56] <plague> KM0201 more like file server i'd also very mutch would like to set up rsync backup for some folders just not yet have enough brain to do it
[06:56] <KM0201> plague: can i PM you?
[06:56] <plague> ofc
[06:57] <BrenRS_> This is really irritating me..
[06:58] <BrenRS_> my desktop was connecting to the network fine (using a wireless adapter with ndiswrapper) and now it's not working after the update -.-
[06:59] <BrenRS_> I really don't have time for this... can someone please help me?
[06:59] <sambagirl> brenrs time for what?
[07:01] <BrenRS_> Hello???
[07:01] <BrenRS_> Can someone please help me?
[07:02] <KM0201> BrenRS_: what are you trying to do?
[07:04] <Moonlightning> !botsnack
[07:04] <Moonlightning> heehee X3
[07:06] <knobcore> gahhh
[07:06] <knobcore> this digidesign piece of crap
[07:06] <KM0201> digidesign?
[07:07] <knobcore> yeah
[07:07] <knobcore> now avid
[07:08] <sambagirl> does ubuntu have a module or is there a module that works with fingerprint swipers? bio stuff?
[07:09] <botcity> do i have to convert my sony .mts file into another format, for me to edit it properly ?
[07:09] <knobcore> i run windows on my music computer because this digidesign piece of garbage requires windows or osx
[07:09] <sambagirl> cant you us vm?
[07:10] <sambagirl> use
[07:10] <BrenRS_> Why is it that when I enter "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" it returns "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found."?
[07:10] <knobcore> and half the time the clock gets all messed up in win7
[07:10] <timfrost> BrenRS_: have you installed  ndiswrapper-dkms ("sudo apt-get install  ndiswrapper-dkms")?
[07:10] <knobcore> sambagirl, if you're talking to me then no it's proprietary hardware that talks directly to proprietary drivers
[07:10] <sambagirl> oh knobcore
[07:11] <sambagirl> i didn't know
[07:11] <andrewh192> hey, I have a HP Pavilion laptop and just found out that the QuickPlay feature has a linux version as well..
[07:11] <timfrost> BrenRS_: you need to enable universe to find that package on precise
[07:11] <knobcore> i have a dedicated computer for it
[07:11] <knobcore> but i'm getting rid of it
[07:11] <BrenRS_> how?
[07:11] <knobcore> switching to RME
[07:11] <andrewh192> was wondering how I would go about installing that on my latop, so that I could use the buttons on my laptop
[07:11] <BrenRS_> How do I enable universe?
[07:12] <timfrost> BrenRS_: in software sources, it is a tick box
[07:12] <BrenRS_> I'm sooooooooooooo lost.
[07:12] <BrenRS_> I'm completely new to Linux..
[07:12] <KM0201> BrenRS_: is the machine conneected to the internet?
[07:12] <BrenRS_> no..
[07:13] <KM0201> BrenRS_: it needs to be on the internet.
[07:13] <BrenRS_> I'm using ndiswrapper for my wireless adapter (which previously was working before I did the system update)
[07:13] <KM0201> can you temporarily wire it?
[07:13] <sambagirl> haha
[07:14] <BrenRS_> I don't know if it's me or what... but this OS seems far more buggy than Windows as much as I want to use it
[07:15] <KM0201> BrenRS_: it's definitely you.
[07:15] <knobcore> sambagirl, it's basically a box that has microphone inputs and line in that converts analog to digital
[07:15] <Fishscene> BrenRS_: How is it buggy?
[07:15] <knobcore> kind of like a giant fancy sound card
[07:15] <BrenRS_> KM0201: You're the one telling me I need the internet connected to it to install something
[07:15] <BrenRS_> I was expecting something like "Oh, you can use the computure you're on right now since you're on the IRC to downoad a package then put it on a flash drive"
[07:15] <KM0201> BrenRS_: lol, software for Linux (any linux distro) is in online repositories, of course you have to be online.
[07:15] <sambagirl> brenrs_ you must be joking
[07:16] <BrenRS_> Well, I downloaded packages via my laptop and put it on my desktop just fine so to clarify your statement, "NO you do NOT have to be online to install packages"
[07:16] <BrenRS_> why? Because I had someone help me before who knew my situation..
[07:17]  * sambagirl laughs
[07:17] <KM0201> BrenRS_: ok...  good luck w/ your problem then.. you obviously have it all figured out
[07:17] <BrenRS_> no..
[07:17] <BrenRS_> I don't
[07:17] <BrenRS_> you're just not understanding what my problem is.
[07:17] <Fishscene> A package contains everything you need to install. If there are dependencies, it will try to resolve them (by looking online or failing). However, package managers don't like manual installations
[07:17] <sambagirl> your not explaining it
[07:18] <Moonlightning> The system beep (sound that gets played when e.g. you hit backspace when there's nothing on the line to delete) is exceedingly loud; how can I turn it down or disable it?
[07:18] <KM0201> BrenRS_: i understand exactlywhat you rproblem is.. YOU don't understand what your problem is
[07:18] <Moonlightning> This is all in a tty, by the way.
[07:18] <Fishscene> Moonlightning: Is the beep originating from your computer or from speakers?
[07:18] <BrenRS_> sambagirl, I am using ndiswrapper for the device 0846:9020 and my desktop was working fine. When I did updates on my desktop and rebooted, then it stopped working.
[07:19] <sambagirl> moonlightining you have any idea the steps you have to go thru to turn that off in windows? :D
[07:19] <sambagirl> ahh
[07:19] <Moonlightning> Fishscene: not sure; this is on a PowerBook G4.
[07:19] <Moonlightning> sambagirl: nope! I don't use Windows. ;3
[07:19] <knobcore> lol @ powerbook g4
[07:19] <sambagirl> i had a similar issue when i did an update on a debian update
[07:19] <BrenRS_> so samba, you're saying I should NOT update?
[07:19] <sambagirl> is that a broadcomm b43 card something like that?
[07:20] <Moonlightning> Hay, it works! XD
[07:20] <BrenRS_> yes
[07:20] <sambagirl> aha
[07:20] <BrenRS_> yes it is, sambagirl
[07:20] <KM0201> !broadcom
[07:20] <sambagirl> there is your answer on that link
[07:20] <knobcore> moonlightning, those things don't die
[07:20] <Moonlightning> knobcore: huh?
[07:20] <sambagirl> follow those instructions and it will be up in a snap
[07:20] <knobcore> powerbook g4s
[07:21] <Moonlightning> …they don't /die?/
[07:21] <knobcore> i had a friend who had one he beat the shit out of it and it's still working
[07:21] <BrenRS_> it's USB, not pci.
[07:21] <BrenRS_> so therefore it wont.
[07:21] <sambagirl> umm
[07:21] <sambagirl> let me think
[07:21]  * KM0201 chuckles because i asked him 10min ago what his wireless chipset was
[07:22] <BrenRS_> 0846:9020
[07:22] <BrenRS_> it's a netgear wna3100 usb wireless adapter
[07:22] <sambagirl> which version of ubuntu do you have btw?
[07:22] <BrenRS_> 12.04 amd64
[07:22] <BrenRS_> with the updates I just installed like 20 mins ago
[07:22] <sambagirl> ahh ok
[07:23] <BrenRS_> that's the current state of the oS
[07:23] <BrenRS_> OS*
[07:24] <KM0201> BrenRS_: just curious, how did you install the driver for that device before?
[07:24] <BrenRS_> KM0201: Yes.
[07:24] <KM0201> that wasn't a yes or no question
[07:24] <BrenRS_> Oh
[07:25] <BrenRS_> right
[07:25] <BrenRS_> uhh
[07:25] <BrenRS_> I read this tutorial: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=97610
[07:25] <KM0201> why are you reading mint tutorials for ubuntu?
[07:25] <BrenRS_> Someone linked it to me. The point is this... it was working before the update.
[07:26] <KM0201> BrenRS_: thats your problem right there.. you installed the drivers offline, most likely those updates you did pulled in a kernel upgrade, and so you'd need to reinstall the driver on the new kernel, if you'd installed hte driver w/ restricted driver manager (which you need to be online to do) ubuntu will keep track of it and keep the driver installed during upgrades
[07:26] <BrenRS_> How will I run the updates first without the driver?
[07:26] <BrenRS_> Should I just not update?
[07:27] <Fishscene> Like I said. Package managers do NOT like manual installs. :P
[07:27] <KM0201> BrenRS_: YOU NEED TO BE ONLINE
[07:27] <sambagirl> opps wrong channel :D
[07:27] <sambagirl> i was in debian
[07:27] <KM0201> BrenRS_: plug your machine to the router for a few minutes, and fix the issue, then it won't be an issue anymore
[07:27] <BrenRS_> KM0201, the only way I can be online is if I install the driver.
[07:27] <sambagirl> brenrs_ do this http://askubuntu.com/questions/152733/how-can-i-remove-all-updates-installed-after-a-specific-date
[07:27] <BrenRS_> ah
[07:27] <sambagirl> i would back the update out
[07:28] <sambagirl> and wait for a few days and see if there is a resolution to the problem.
[07:28] <Moonlightning> How do I get `yaboot` to default to `Linux nomodeset` so I don't have to type it every time?
[07:28] <plague> Excuse me cold anyone please help me, how can I map windows share from shell and mount it under certain folder?
[07:28] <sambagirl> unless your running the World Bank on that computer the security updates etc...arent that critical :D
[07:28] <bkc_> plague: smbclient
[07:29] <sambagirl> its not like your going to get a virus
[07:29] <auronandace> sambagirl: thats just putting off the problem
[07:29] <bkc_> sambagirl: nope... but rootkits
[07:29] <Fishscene> plague: Just a one-time mount or a permanent mount?
[07:29] <sambagirl> ok
[07:29] <BrenRS_> So here's what I'm going to do... install the driver like I did before
[07:29] <BrenRS_> then never update :D
[07:29] <sambagirl> but i mean it gives you atleast a point to look at where the issue began
[07:30] <BrenRS_> that's my solution
[07:30] <plague> Fishscene permanent mount,  i wanted to use it afterwards for rsync backup.
[07:30] <sambagirl> ok
[07:30] <Fishscene> plague: This might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[07:30] <dichtbijzee> Can anybody point me to a PPA for chromium. the ones on launchpad are all still on 18.0*** I'm looking for 22 daily/unstable build.
[07:30] <KM0201> BrenRS_: thats absolutely retarded, but.. if thats your solution, ok
[07:30] <auronandace> sambagirl: we know when the issue began, when he had a kernel update
[07:30] <BrenRS_> how's it retarded?
[07:30] <BrenRS_> it makes sense
[07:30] <sambagirl> i would back it out brenrs_
[07:30] <plague> Fishscene thank you
[07:30] <KM0201> BrenRS_: installing an OS and never updating it (including security updates) makes sense?  My friend, Linux is not you rproblem
[07:30] <sambagirl> and see if it recovers and functions properly as before
[07:30] <plague> bkc_ thanks
[07:31] <bkc_> BrenRS_: or... install old driver, install driver as one should (online), update :)
[07:31] <Fishscene> plague: NP. I set this up myself and it works very, VERY well. :)
[07:31] <KM0201> bkc_: THANK YOU... exactly what i was trying to get him to think about.
[07:31] <sambagirl> update update sounds like a windows channel. look out everyone windows update is coming down the pipe duck :D
[07:31] <bkc_> KM0201: to some idiots, you actually have to spell it out in words ^^
[07:31] <KM0201> lol
[07:32] <bkc_> sambagirl: try archlinux for a month ;)
[07:32] <bkc_> windows has *nothing* on arch :P
[07:32] <KM0201> i'm all for helping newbs, but newbs who are also loudmouths are annoying
[07:32] <Fishscene> Common guys, some people have a unique situation or honestly just don't know good practices.
[07:32] <bkc_> KM0201: +1 on that one
[07:32] <sambagirl> he said he was just learning the system didnt he? so he is entitled to explore ideas and do things till he learns the better way
[07:33] <sambagirl> bkc_ i have it but i only wanted it because it has zoneminder in it
[07:33] <Fishscene> plague: This can also help (not sure which one to use at this point, last time I used these was like, 2 years ago) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[07:33] <auronandace> sambagirl: doesn't mean you should encourage him to put off solving the actual problem properly
[07:33] <bkc_> KM0201: well.. I was the one who told him to download and installa the drivers offline in the first place... but I figured he'd install them properly afterwards :/
[07:34] <KM0201> bkc_: yeah.. you would think
[07:34] <bkc_> ... windows-users  :dunnu:
[07:34] <bkc_>  ┐(￣ー￣)┌
[07:34] <bkc_> damn irssi-autocorrect not working correctly -.-
[07:34] <sambagirl> auronandace but it sounds like he is in a panic and has something specific he has to accomplish. what are you supposed to do in a panic? whatever you can to be-unpanic'd and then look at what it is that is occuring and then you know and/or wait for a resolution to be prescribed.
[07:35] <auronandace> sambagirl: he was already told how to solve the problem several times and you just want him to put it off?
[07:35] <KM0201> sambagirl: i don;t think its panic, i think its impatience (you'll notice his solution was to install the driver the way that it worked, and NEVER update)
[07:35] <BrenRS_> Okay I'm checking off the box that says install third-party software
[07:35] <BrenRS_> maybe I'll have luck with that
[07:35] <KM0201> BrenRS_: is the machine connected to the internet?
[07:35] <BrenRS_> no.
[07:36]  * KM0201 has a MASSIVE headache
[07:36] <sambagirl> well linux updating is practical however windows updating is suicide
[07:36] <plague> Fishscene thanks!
[07:36] <Fishscene> NP Mate
[07:36] <KM0201> BrenRS_: how do you expect to install 3rd party software, w/o an internet connection?
[07:36] <BrenRS_> true.
[07:36] <KM0201> do you think it just magically gets to your computer?
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:37] <sambagirl> look on this laptop i am on right now it has 10.10 and i am never getting any updates but i use it and it works.
[07:37] <sambagirl> i didnt see the solve unless you mean the link that the bot produced?
[07:37] <auronandace> sambagirl: that means you'll never get any support too
[07:37] <KM0201> sambagirl: but you'd have to agree that isn't necessarily the right thing to do.
[07:37] <KM0201> security updates and all.
[07:37] <jhojho> if you use openssl on a 64bit machine, pls consider upvoting https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/1018522 
[07:38] <BrenRS_> sambagirl is right..
[07:38] <BrenRS_> tbh..
[07:38] <BrenRS_> I don't do a lot of downloading
[07:38] <BrenRS_> so...
[07:38] <KM0201> BrenRS_: no she's not.
[07:38] <FloodBot1> BrenRS_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:38] <BrenRS_> updates won't be crucial.
[07:38] <KM0201> not updating an OS that is connected to the internet, is stupid... no other word for it
[07:38] <BrenRS_> KM0201: I don't do much downloading, therefore it will be pointless.
[07:39] <KM0201> lol.. what the heck does downloading have to do with it?
[07:39] <auronandace> BrenRS_: no, you'll suffer problems guaranteed
[07:39] <KM0201> are you going to surf the internet?
[07:39] <bkc_> BrenRS_: has nothing to do with downloads xD
[07:39] <Fishscene> A savvy user doesn't necessarily need to update their OS.
[07:39] <BrenRS_> How???
[07:39] <sambagirl> well i figure the kind of world this really is, it's interesting how things are always being fixed that arent broken in the first place. but i am told they are broken so i need to fix it but i can prove it one way or another but i just go on ignorance i guess.
[07:39] <Fishscene> Although usually it is not wise to not update.
[07:39] <bkc_> Fishscene: s/savvy/stupid/
[07:39] <sambagirl> i can't
[07:39] <iceroot> Fishscene: please donst suggest something like that in the main ubuntu support channel. of course everyone should update the system with security updates
[07:39] <BrenRS_> alright well when I get infected or get something, I'll be sure to let you know
[07:40] <BrenRS_> which will most likely not happen
[07:40] <iceroot> BrenRS_: same for you, please dont suggest something like that here
[07:40] <KM0201> BrenRS_: well, of course it won't, because you can't get online
[07:40] <bkc_> BrenRS_: rootkits... you wont know what hit you...
[07:40] <BrenRS_> How will I get a rootkit out of nowhere?
[07:40] <auronandace> BrenRS_: its not about getting infected, its about bugs and security vulnerabilities
[07:40] <bkc_> BrenRS_: sec-vul...
[07:41] <Fishscene> iceroot: No deal. I prefer to keep things real and not treat people like cattle. It *IS* possible to have a machine connected to the internet and be just as secure as a fully-up-to-date OS.
[07:41] <sambagirl> well we go on blind faith that the "fixes" are fixes and for all i know they could actually be vulnerabilities but we have trust in our masters.
[07:41] <BrenRS_> So you're saying that ubuntu us open to java drive-bys?
[07:41] <BrenRS_> or auto downloaders?
[07:41] <iceroot> Fishscene: as i said, we dont something like that here.
[07:41] <iceroot> Fishscene: if you do something like that, fine but please dont suggest that here
[07:41] <Fishscene> I wasn't suggesting that anyone DO that at all.
[07:41] <plague> Fishscene works perfectly love you!
[07:42] <Fishscene> plague: Excellent :)
[07:42] <bkc_> BrenRS_: infecting linux over internet is easy-peasy :3
[07:42] <sambagirl> brenrs nothing is secure but linux is atleast functional and fun. tell me how much fun windows isnt :)
[07:43] <auronandace> BrenRS_: seriously, if you are not going to update and come back here for help the first thing we will suggest is updating
[07:44] <sambagirl> true
[07:44] <auronandace> BrenRS_: the updates are there to fix problems
[07:44] <irong33k> the new pinguy 12.04 vlc crashes alot of time
[07:44] <sambagirl> and incidently they create problems as wlll but that is the nature of the beast
[07:45] <auronandace> irong33k: pinguy isn't supported here
[07:45] <irong33k> but its under Linux Mint, which is under Ubuntu
[07:45] <iceroot> !mint | irong33k
[07:45] <irong33k> need i say more,....
[07:47] <sambagirl> i will confess this though, i worked for ibm and i know that you never get any support from microsoft but you sure do get support for ubuntu. that's a fact. no fiction.
[07:47] <Fishscene> What kind of support are you referring to?
[07:48] <Moonlightning> Internal error? Oh, there's an option to submit a report. I'll do that…
[07:48] <Moonlightning> Precise is no longer under development. Huh? Oh, there's a convenient “I don't know what to do” option.
[07:48] <dichtbijzee> Can anybody point me to a PPA for chromium. the ones on launchpad are all still on 18.0*** I'm looking for 22 daily/unstable build.
[07:48]  * Moonlightning clicks…
[07:49] <Moonlightning> Link to a website…
[07:49] <Moonlightning> Hmm.
[07:49] <Moonlightning> Why doesn't it just submit a bug report like OS X does? 6_9
[07:50] <sambagirl> when i had to call up microsoft with lets say a customer on a conference call and they could not get a humanbeing or they get some person that is reading some idiotic script, when they saw the ibm # they would conviently drop us and keep the poor customer online with them and work for their money and never ever ever ever give any support because they neve know what they are talking about but if you have a big account you can buy a few hundred
[07:50] <sambagirl> thousands worht of support :).
[07:50] <Moonlightning> I don't really want to go to a website and follow through a bunch of stuff…
[07:50] <sambagirl> it's a long story
[07:50] <sambagirl> nevermind
[07:50] <FloodBot1> sambagirl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:51] <wilee-nilee> dichtbijzee, I think this is the pkg it seems to be in the stable?
[07:51] <sambagirl> apple is just as frustrating
[07:51] <wilee-nilee> chromium
[07:52] <wilee-nilee> dichtbijzee, http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/google_chrome/stable/main/base/google-chrome-unstable
[07:52] <Moonlightning> Anyway, I have a few problems here still.
[07:52] <Fishscene> wow. Sounds like Microsoft treats the smaller businessess with better respect. I had no problems even elevating to Tier 3 support with Microsoft. But I'm off topic now. :S However, Microsoft was trying to shield the Tier3 support because they ddin't want me talking with their developers... not true with Ubuntu. You can talk directly with whoever is helping you... and they could probably link you to the sourcecode too. Not so with Microsoft deve
[07:52] <Moonlightning> 1. display is borked. Not sure how to describe it, but the /entire/ thing looks like the wallpaper in http://cl.ly/IqDo .
[07:53] <auronandace> !ot | sambagirl Fishscene
[07:53] <Moonlightning> 2. I'm always typing `Linux nomodeset` at the yaboot prompt, and I'd like to know how to automate that.
[07:53] <sambagirl> i don't ever expect to see a linux commercial ever on tv. never. i can imagine microsoft and apple exploding if one ever came on. it would be like "that wasn't a ufo" that was swamp gas.
[07:54] <Moonlightning> 3. The system beep in tty's is /really/ loud, and I'd like to turn its volume down.
[07:54] <Fishscene> -_- No room for a one line comment, eh? Anycow. Moonlightning: It looks like you're running a very low-end driver
[07:54] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, yaboot is a OS am I right?
[07:54] <sambagirl> fishscene your correct in your assessment
[07:54] <Moonlightning> Fishscene: okay, how do I upgrade? XD
[07:55] <xangua> !nomodeset
[07:55] <xangua> Moonlightning:  instead of typing it everytime you boot wy don't set it at grub¿
[07:55] <Moonlightning> wilee-nilee: no, the OS is Ubuntu.
[07:55] <Moonlightning> xangua: I have yaboot, not grub
[07:55] <dichtbijzee> wilee-nilee, Domo arigato
[07:55] <ssta_> wilee-nilee: no, it's the equivalent of grub for powerpc
[07:56] <djshotglass> how would i format a fat usb stick to ext2 or something linux
[07:56] <wilee-nilee> Moonlightning, ah oh well nomodeset is easy in grub, lol.
[07:56] <Moonlightning> xangua: that thread isn't helpful; I don't have grub
[07:56] <sambagirl> my goal is to bring ubuntu up to this level of functionality http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/
[07:57] <Fishscene> djshotglass: Copy everything off of it first, plug it in, then press the Windows/super key and type "disk". You should see a disk utility pop up.
[07:57] <djshotglass> fdisk /dev/sdb?
[07:57] <cihhan> Hi all! Does anybody have experience with collectl?
[07:59] <wilee-nilee> dichtbijzee, cool that worked.
[07:59] <sambagirl> !seen seveas
[08:00] <djshotglass> what partition should i use Fishscene?
[08:00] <Fishscene> I dunno. If it's just for files, you might as well use one partition and whatever filesystem you want.
[08:01] <djshotglass> what type of partition i was asking
[08:01] <djshotglass> Linux is standard for the primary?
[08:02] <KM0201> djshotglass: what do you mean?
[08:02] <Fishscene> djshotglass: It might be the late hour, but I'm completely lost.
[08:02] <dichtbijzee> wilee-nilee, Well actually now i'm switching to Google chrome because chromium isn't being build anymore
[08:02] <plague> Fishscene please permisson to PM you?
[08:03] <djshotglass> when making the new primary partition
[08:03] <Fishscene> plague: Sure thing
[08:03] <djshotglass> there is a drop box of partition types
[08:03] <wilee-nilee> dichtbijzee, Ah, oh well.
[08:03] <KM0201> djshotglass: are you manually partitioning?
[08:03] <djshotglass> i just want to format the damn thing from fat to ext2
[08:03] <djshotglass> lol
[08:03] <djshotglass> im in the disk util ui
[08:04] <KM0201> djshotglass: is this a usb drive or something?
[08:04] <djshotglass> yes
[08:05] <KM0201> djshotglass: did you try installing gparted, and use gparted to format it?
[08:06]  * KM0201 gets the feeling he is missing something
[08:06] <djshotglass> no i just did fdisk and mke2fs from command line
[08:06] <djshotglass> they were close enough to freebsd i managed to pull it off
[08:06] <djshotglass> thanks
[08:06] <KM0201> lol
[08:06] <KM0201> ok
[08:07] <sambagirl> one last question...10.10 server isnt supported either is it?
[08:07] <KM0201> no
[08:08] <sambagirl> to bad because everything i see is built on that platform
[08:08] <djshotglass> everything you see :o
[08:08] <KM0201> what are you seeing?
[08:08] <djshotglass> you need to look in better places
[08:08] <KM0201> 10.04 is still supported i think
[08:08] <sambagirl> i meant 10.04 :D
[08:08] <sambagirl> opps i am tired.
[08:09] <sambagirl> that was an honest mistake
[08:09] <sambagirl> it had a 10. in it
[08:09] <KM0201> i think 10.04 is still supported for a little longer
[08:09] <sambagirl> night
[08:09] <Fishscene> o/
[08:09] <ssta_> 10.04 server is supported until 2015
[08:09] <stephans> hi everybody! I have a strange effect on ubuntu (on a 2009 mac mini with Nvidia): http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=J1OqqQ8hBXk&vq=medium      this video has a blueshift when played in firefox.
[08:09] <stephans> wierd!
[08:10] <stephans> now it plays with no blueshift in chrome, but then it sputters and stutters
[08:10] <stephans> does anyone have an explanation for this?
[08:11] <Fishscene> stephans: You have adobe flash and gstreamer plugins installed and up to date?
[08:12] <stephans> Fishscene: yes. the restricted extras are installed and all updates applied
[08:12] <Moonlightning> How do I get the system to automatically connect to wireless networks I've selected as soon as possible, even if I'm not logged in?
[08:12] <Chiko> How can i open a file in the gui with administrative rights?
[08:13] <bkc_> Moonlightning: "system connection: yes", "autoconnect: yes"
[08:13] <Fishscene> stephans: It almost sounds like hardware accelleration for video playback isn't enabled or is too underpowered to handle the video. Are other videos played back successfully? Even HD videos?
[08:13] <Moonlightning> bkc_: do that where?
[08:14] <stephans> regular mkv files or avi files on the hard drive play fine... even plays ok in minitube
[08:14] <stephans> Fishscene: regular mkv files or avi files on the hard drive play fine... even plays ok in minitube
[08:14] <bkc_> Moonlightning: in NetworkManager
[08:15] <stephans> by the way everything played great on when booted in to OSX
[08:15] <Moonlightning> bkc_: how do I get to that? XD
[08:15] <stephans> Fishscene: how do I enable hardware acceleration for the nvidia drivers?
[08:16] <Calinou> > settings > proprietary drivers
[08:16] <Calinou> nouveau/free drivers have basic 3D accel for some nvidia GPUs but it's quite slow.
[08:16] <stephans> Fishscene: you may be right on the no acceleration for video... because the cpu does run high when flash video is played...
[08:18] <Marzata> !ntp Marzata
[08:19] <Fishscene> stephans: I was trying to see if I could play the video with youtube's HTML5 video player, but I'm not having success.  Do you have proprietary drivers enabled/installed?
[08:19] <stephans> Fishscene: tried with vlc and it plays fine... yes the nvidia drivers are installed.
[08:20] <Fishscene> Sounds like a flash/browser issue then. I'm at a loss as to where to go from here. =\
[08:20] <stephans> Fishscene: I tried to enable prefer html5 but could not figure out how...
[08:20] <jhojho> does someone know how to assign a distribution in a launchpad bug report?
[08:21] <primeras> Happy Ramadan Eid to Muslims friends.
[08:21] <jhojho> for example, this bug report shows as affecting precise https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/986147
[08:21] <stephans> Fishscene: ok I will google some more..
[08:21] <jhojho> i would like to do the same for another bug
[08:23] <bakteria> Hi, Im having trouble with arecord, when I use "arecord -f dat -v -V test.wav" I get this output: http://pastebin.com/hL837k1S
[08:24] <Ebolla> When trying to install vmware player on Ubuntu 12.04 I get a failure starting Virtual Network Device.  Anyone have any ideas?
[08:24] <bakteria> It does not give me an error, just ????
[08:24] <plague> Looking for sombady who has expierience with fstab file permissions. Please!
[08:27] <jhojho> anyone?
[08:29] <stephans> Fishscene:  I enabled "Override automatic cache management" on firefox. it worked
[08:29] <stephans> Fishscene:  that was it
[08:31] <sun> n
[08:35] <mobius420> greetings #ubuntu :)
[08:35] <cfhowlett> mobius420: greetings
[08:35] <mobius420> can anyone tell me if it is possible to change the passphrase used to unlock an LVM encrypted hdd?
[08:35] <mobius420> after the installation of the OS I mean
[08:35] <Moonlightning> How do I get the system to connect automatically to certain Wi-Fi networks even if nobody's logged in?
[08:36] <mobius420> Moonlightning,  "even if nobody's logged in"   do you mean  even if no one is connected to the wifi  network at the moment you are logging in?
[08:36] <Moonlightning> If nobody's logged into my computer *
[08:36] <rexor> He mean that no one using computer in that moment
[08:37] <Moonlightning> ^
[08:37] <mobius420> ahh kk
[08:37] <Moonlightning> i.e. right after boot, without me having to do anything
[08:37] <mobius420> I would assume to just diable any power setting which would place the machine in suspend or sleep  and then make certain the "connect automatically" option is selected
[08:37] <mobius420> diable=disable
[08:38] <Moonlightning> connect-automatically is enabled; I just rebooted, but it doesn't seem to be connected
[08:38] <mobius420> or perhaps I am not fully grasping what you wish to accomplish... because that seems deceptively simple
[08:38] <mobius420> ahh okay
[08:38] <mobius420> well....
[08:38] <Moonlightning> I just want it to connect automatically without having to log in using the GUI.
[08:39] <captine> hi all.  I have a router with a USB drive connected, and when transferring files from Ubuntu to it, it goes at 1.5mb/s.  This doesn't sound right to me.  Even when transferring from my Mac to Ubuntu it is a similar speed.
[08:39] <Moonlightning> autoreconnect after sleep and hibernation would be nice, too, but we'll get to that later… XD
[08:39] <captine> have Broadcom wireless chip ubuntu 12.04
[08:39] <cfhowlett> captine: OK and?
[08:40] <pranjal710> I want to tunnel to a computer but I dont have bash access. cat /etc/passwd says /bin/null , how do I tunnel??
[08:40] <pranjal710> I have an account on the server
[08:40] <captine> cfhowlett, sorry, typing slow.  I am on an Acer 4755 with wireless N.  My router has dualband Wireless N capability.  I just dont know how to get the wireless N type speeds i am expecting
[08:40] <mobius420> rdp?
[08:40] <mobius420> or are you needing crypto?
[08:40] <Moonlightning> pranjal710: you can't change your shell on the server?
[08:40] <mobius420> SSL?
[08:40] <cfhowlett> captine: ah.  sorry, I can't speak to that.  stay in channel and ask.  And ...
[08:41]  * mobius420 fetches a glowing keyboard ;]
[08:41] <cfhowlett> !patience|captine:
[08:41] <pranjal710> Moonlightning, No, In windows I used tunnelier
[08:41] <captine> cfhowlett, thanks a mil. :)  i am searching all over at the moment.
[08:43] <nimbos> captine, could the server that your router runs be throttling your speeds?  I had similarly slow speeds when using a USB HD plugged into a router.
[08:43] <Moonlightning> pranjal710: no, you can't change your shell on the server?
[08:44] <Afflicto-[ubuntu> Hello everyone -- I'm trying to install xampp on ubuntu but I keep getting 403 forbidden errors whenever I try accessing localhost/phpmyadmin
[08:44] <pranjal710> Moonlightning, I dont have any rights on the server. Isnt there any variant of tunnelier for ubuntu??
[08:44] <Afflicto-[ubuntu> I just ran the lampp security command to no avail.
[08:44] <Moonlightning> pranjal710: if you have /no/ privileges on the server, how are you logging in? ;)
[08:45] <pranjal710> Moonlightning, I do have an account, but it is set to /bin/null. I dont have bash or shell access
[08:45] <captine> nimbos, my wireless router is a Netgear WNDR3700V2.  Not connecting to a server.  It has QOS setup for Skype only.
[08:46] <captine> nimbos, the router is running dd-wrt with squid and dansguardian installed, however, the speeds were bad before squid, so it is not due to any memory or processor usage on the router
[08:48] <ssta_> pranjal710: ssh -N -L 1234:localhost:1234 username@server
[08:49] <captine> nimbos, i am looking at more router settings now.  perhaps my channel settings are not correct
[08:50] <nimbos> you're getting a true 1.5 mbps speed?
[08:51] <Afflicto-[ubuntu> I did "chmod 777 /opt/lampp" and now when I try going to localhost I must put a username and password. lease help :\
[08:51] <Moonlightning> Afflicto-[ubuntu: you almost /never/ want to use a 777 mode.
[08:52] <Afflicto-[ubuntu> I know but I just get 403 forbidden.
[08:52] <chien> info Moonlightning
[08:52] <Moonlightning> chien: huh?
[08:52] <HaltingState> help: atomos@maslow:~/ms_data/articles$ sed -n "194973p" moreover-social.2010.2010.mo-sm.cleared.canonicalized.part.17
[08:52] <HaltingState> Cannot open file /mnt/tmp2/zv7T2Za.gz
[08:52] <HaltingState> mnt/tmp2 does not exist; i just upgraded and why is this happening
[08:53] <chien> Moonlightning I'm just trying
[08:54] <captine> nimbos, trying to figure where to paste a screenshot.  the MB/s and mb/s confuses me i think
[08:55] <nimbos> well
[08:55] <nimbos> bits vs bytes
[08:55] <nimbos> what is the rate you're seeing?
[08:55] <pungi-man> is ubuntu or fedora better for setting up a home server ?
[08:55] <nimbos> with the units you're seeing
[08:55] <Moonlightning> captine: I use cl.ly, most seem to use imgur or something like that
[08:56] <Blackl|Away> bbvs, sorry…
[08:56] <ssta_> pungi-man: in the #ubuntu channel, what do you think the answer will be? :)
[08:57] <nimbos> ssta_ , MS Home Server Obviously...
[08:57] <Ebolla> Nimbos:  WHS 2011 doesn't like my nic.  I have to run it via a VM on Ubuntu /lol.
[08:58] <captine> thanks.  nimbos http://i.imgur.com/qQ56k.png
[08:58] <nimbos> pungi-man, you gotta figure out what you want to do.   Then once you know that, you look at both servers and see what they have available to accomplish your goal.   Then decide which will best satisfy your needs.
[08:59] <Ebolla> pungi-man: my server doesn't like booting from FAT16/32 USB drives so I went with Ubuntu as Fedora's USB only works on FAT.
[09:00] <ssta_> captine: that's megabytes.  Comes to about 11megabit/s
[09:00] <captine> ssta_, thanks.  that's not what i am expecting.  let me finish tinkering with the wireless N setup on my router.  perhaps the router is not using the right channel or something
[09:00] <nimbos> well, that's not horrible, but I'd expect you to have been getting at least 3 MB/s.
[09:00] <pungi-man> which one of them has better networking facilities ?
[09:01] <nimbos> dude, they basically have the same packages
[09:01] <nimbos> go read the internet
[09:01] <captine> nimbos, thanks. on wireless N is 3MB/s really what one would expect?  Only 2 computers connected to the  router
[09:01] <Ebolla> captine:  Understand if you are to close or to far from the router you will lose speed and if you are on a channel that has a LOT of devices on it then you will lose speed as well.
[09:01] <nimbos> captine, most people get around 8MB/s
[09:02] <Ebolla> captine:  You have an android smart phone?  If so get WiFi Analyzer.  It will show all the routers around you and what channels they are on.
[09:02] <nimbos> but if like Ebolla said, you're in a noisy environment, you should expect to have low speeds.
[09:03] <cfhowlett> Ebolla: hey you're not over here with me in China, are you?  The gov't throttles speeds so they enable surveillance
[09:03] <nimbos> captine, your router claims up to 18MB/s.  So I'd expect at least half of that.
[09:03] <nimbos> you said you get that same speed from computer to computer to right?
[09:03] <Ebolla> cfhowlett:  No I'm not bro.  But the throttling over there happens at the ISP level just a fyi.
[09:04] <Ebolla> cfhowlett:  Much like how it is starting to happen here in the US /lol
[09:04] <KM0201> lol,
[09:05] <KM0201> i feel bad for people in china
[09:05] <Ebolla> KM0201:  why?
[09:05] <KM0201> because
[09:05] <pungi-man> no i get 60-70 kbps
[09:07] <Ebolla> KM0201:  I'm still waiting for the answer.
[09:07] <KM0201> no real answer
[09:07] <KM0201> i guess if you don't know you're under communism, it doesn't really matter
[09:07] <Ebolla> KM0201:  So you feel sorry for a country for no reason what so ever?
[09:07] <KM0201> i couldn't stand having the govt. involved that much in my life
[09:08] <Ebolla> KM0201:  You must not live in the US then.
[09:08] <KM0201> Ebolla: trust me, i'm not much happier w/ the our US Govt.
[09:08] <KM0201> lol
[09:12] <captine> nimbos, thanks.  where did you see the router claim?
[09:12] <captine> big difference between 18 and 1.5 :)
[09:13] <Ebolla> anyone know a clean way to auto mount NTFS for Samba/Torrent usage?
[09:14] <Afflicto-[ubuntu> Ok I just did a fresh install of xampp. did the security thing ".../lampp/lampp security". And now I need a username\password to access phpmyadmin. Please help.
[09:15] <kanliot> has 12.04.1 been released?
[09:18] <JPSman> Hey yall.  What is the name of that program named after Richard Stallman that tells me if I am running truly free software or not?
[09:18] <Calinou> vrms
[09:18] <ghabit> kanliot, what is 12.04.1?
[09:18] <Calinou> apt-get install vrms
[09:18] <Calinou> then run vrms in terminal
[09:18] <cfhowlett> !point
[09:18] <cfhowlett> !point-release
[09:18] <Calinou> with ubuntu you won't run truly free software anyway
[09:19] <mauk> JPSman: run "yes no". gives a good first approximation
[09:19] <JPSman> I know.  DVD codec pack excluded
[09:19] <glebihan> kanliot, not yet, August 23rd
[09:20] <Calinou> mauk, hih
[09:20] <Calinou> huh*
[09:21] <poc>  
[09:22] <Ebolla> anyone know a clean way to auto mount NTFS for Samba/Torrent usage?
[09:22] <rafnews> hi everybody, i need help with vsftpd. i get a refused connection
[09:22] <air139> Kernel panic during a verion upgrade of the os, now boots into a broken login screen, live cd does not see the old OS to upgrade, where do I go from here
[09:24] <captine> nimbos, i have been playing and will reboot my router soon.  seems 40mhz wasnt active and bunch of other things, so probably not an Ubuntu issue.
[09:26] <rafnews> help needed for vsftp issue. someone can help me plz ?
[09:29] <air139> Kernel panic during a verion upgrade of the os, now boots into a broken login screen, live cd does not see the old OS to upgrade, how do I go about recovery from here?
[09:30] <SoulTrain> How do I make sure if I have an Independent Ubuntu installation in its defined Filesystem (EXT4) or not (installed in windows)
[09:31] <joooo72> guys having problems with grub-install working on a 3TB disk (presuming it's GPT)
[09:31] <joooo72> any work arounds for this?
[09:31] <kanliot> SoulTrain, did you use wubi?
[09:32] <SoulTrain> kanliot:  Dont know. I instaled from USB drive
[09:33] <Chiko> dumb question how do i get into the terminal in ubuntu 12 oO;
[09:33] <Moonlightning> Is it possible to install Ubuntu over the network using another computer?
[09:33] <k1l_> SoulTrain: did you boot into windows and launch the installation there? or did you boot up the linux live version to install?
[09:34] <Moonlightning> My friend has a Mac and a PC laptop and wants to install Ubuntu on the PC, but the disc drive is broken…
[09:34] <k1l_> Chiko: press: crtl+alt+t
[09:34] <cfhowlett> Moonlightning: yep.  can't remember what the method is called though..
[09:34] <Chiko> thanks
[09:34] <SoulTrain> I boot with Live USB did not run it in Windows
[09:34] <Chiko> how was i meant to know that? :P
[09:34] <k1l_> Chiko: or type terminal into the launcher? o_O
[09:34] <Chiko> yeah that was the first thing i tried
[09:34] <Chiko> used to it just being in the menu on ubuntu 9/10
[09:35] <cfhowlett> Moonlightning: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[09:35] <k1l_> SoulTrain: than it shopuld be a regular install then
[09:35] <Chiko> ah double click the wierd looking thing at top left
[09:35] <k1l_> SoulTrain: just take a look at the partitions table (sudo fdisk -l (small L ))
[09:35] <kanliot> SoulTrain, will it boot without the usb drive?
[09:35] <Moonlightning> cfhowlett: cool, thanks
[09:35] <k1l_> Chiko: just press the windows button and start typing
[09:36] <Chiko> yeah just noticed it thanks
[09:36] <cfhowlett> Moonlightning: have fun, be safe
[09:36] <Moonlightning> heehee, thanks
[09:37] <SoulTrain> kanliot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1155046/
[09:37] <k1l_> SoulTrain: that looks fine to me
[09:38] <air139> panic during a verion upgrade of the os, now boots into a broken login screen, live cd does not see the old OS to upgrade, how do I go about recovery from here?
[09:38] <Moonlightning> cfhowlett: does the server there /have/ to be a Linux machine? We only have a Mac and a Windows machine…
[09:38] <k1l_> SoulTrain: you can see the last two partitions are the ubuntu ones.
[09:38] <air139> Direct message me please, losing track in all the sys messages
[09:38] <cfhowlett> Moonlightning: sorry, I only know OF the method.   Never done it myself.  Like so many things I could mention ...
[09:38] <Moonlightning> 6_9
[09:40] <k1l_> Moonlightning: im not sure. but if so you could boot a ubuntu-cd/stick on the windows maschine ?
[09:40] <Moonlightning> k1l_: disc drive is broken.
[09:40] <Moonlightning> We're looking around for a USB stick…
[09:41] <Moonlightning> But we might not have one. 9_6
[09:42] <air139> panic during a verion upgrade of the os, now boots into a broken login screen, live cd does not see the old OS to upgrade, how do I go about recovery from here?
[09:43] <TJ-> Moonlightning: I've only just joined the room; would you mind restating your problem?
[09:44] <Moonlightning> TJ-: trying to see if there's a way to install Ubuntu on a PC laptop with a broken disc drive, without using a USB stick or an Ethernet cable, and with just a working Mac laptop.
[09:44] <delkin> I messed up my X by installing the newer version of NVidia drivers. Now I am stuck with the shell... Can someone help me roll back the situation?
[09:45] <TJ-> Moonlightning: Well I was about to say PXE network boot but you shot me down! But if the laptop has a broken HDD where would you install Ubuntu to?
[09:46] <TJ-> Moonlightning: You could boot it from a LiveCD that has been burnt to disk using the Mac?
[09:46] <Moonlightning> TJ-: broken /disc/ drive, i.e. optical, so no CDs
[09:47] <Atlantic777> is cdimage.ubuntu.com up? I can't download lubuntu install images.
[09:47] <SoulTrain> k1l_: Thank you
[09:47] <TJ-> Oh OK, so it has a HDD available. What I'd do is pull the HDD out, connect it as a slave drive to another PC, then install Ubuntu to it from a Live CD/USB image then return it to the 'broken' PC
[09:47] <Ebolla> Moonlightning:  FYI HDD = Hard /Disc/ Drive so that was a valid.    But try doing a network install over the wireless.
[09:48] <Moonlightning> I thought /discs/ were the round things. 6_8
[09:48] <Moonlightning> 6_9 *
[09:48] <TJ-> Moonlightning: Generally we call CD/DVDs ... CD/DVDs :p
[09:48] <Moonlightning> What about Blu—*shot*
[09:48] <TJ-> BDs
[09:48] <SoulTrain> is it possible to use "Compiz visual effects" with  LXDE?
[09:49] <Ebolla> Moonlightning:  You've never seen the platters inside a HDD?  They are round.
[09:49] <Moonlightning> …lol
[09:49] <chroot> how to remove an empty line in a file?
[09:49] <Moonlightning> Fair enough.
[09:50] <Moonlightning> The entire thing is not round, though…
[09:50] <TJ-> Moonlightning: Another thought occurs to me - you'd still need to be able to pull the HDD out and attach it to the Mac - install Ubuntu to a virtual machine raw image  (that's a file) on the Mac then write the contents of the raw VM file directly to the attached HDD, then return it to the broken PC
[09:50] <Ebolla> Technically a CD Drive. DVD Drive, and BR Drive are not round either.
[09:51] <Moonlightning> I'll jus say /optical disc/ then XD
[09:51] <TJ-> Moonlightning: If you use a *raw* image file as the backing for a VM it is literally just like a small hard disk. The first byte of data in it is the same as on a physical HDD
[09:51] <Ebolla> kk lol
[09:51] <Moonlightning> Ebolla: no, but the entire discs themselves are.
[09:51] <TJ-> OK... let's focus on the easy problem here... We can't make round discs square :p
[09:51] <Moonlightning> TJ-: seems a bit complicated. Wouldn't you need some special kind of cable to do that? XD
[09:52] <Moonlightning> …yes we can.
[09:52] <Moonlightning> brb - getting chainsaw
[09:52] <TJ-> Moonlightning: don't blame me for being complicated! you set the restrictions! :D
[09:52] <TJ-> Go get/borrow/steal a network cable :p
[09:52] <Moonlightning> I didn't set the restrictions! We just don't have the hardware! >.<
[09:53] <air139> panic during a verion upgrade of the os, now boots into a broken login screen, live cd does not see the old OS to upgrade, how do I go about recovery from here?
[09:53] <Moonlightning> !repeat | air139
[09:53] <TJ-> Moonlightning: You set them on me! I'm telling you the only way you can do it without access to a USB or optical boot device
[09:54] <air139> waited the 5-10 minutes described in the room rule
[09:54] <air139> s
[09:54] <k1l_> air139: try the recovery login and go with apt-get -f install?
[09:54] <Moonlightning> TJ-: you can't do a netinstall without a /Linux/ server?
[09:55] <SoulTrain> Any idea? is it possible to use "Compiz visual effects" with  LXDE?
[09:55] <Moonlightning> …actually, hmm…I have a Linux /server/-server, but it's not on the LAN…might that work?
[09:55] <k1l_> air139: support only here in the channel pls
[09:55] <air139> its so crowded
[09:55] <air139> k1l_: so just run that in the terminal in the live cd?
[09:55] <TJ-> Moonlightning: Sure you can, from a PXE/TFTP server. Set one up on your Mac and you could. But generally novices find configuring PXE/TFTP difficult since it is complex. And you'd still need an ethernet cable. You can't do it wirelessly
[09:55] <bobvdv> Hi all
[09:56] <bobvdv> I've got a minor question
[09:56] <Moonlightning> TJ-: okay…
[09:56] <k1l_> air139: but yes. select the recovery entry on grub. and then try that command. BUT before all that i would recommend you to boot up a live-system (usb or cd) and backup your data
[09:56] <TJ-> Moonlightning: Does that laptop have a working operating system installation right now?
[09:56] <joooo72> GUYS
[09:56] <Moonlightning> TJ-: yeah, the laptop runs Windows.
[09:56] <Guest61688> ciao a tutti ho un problema con virtual box qualcuno mi può aiutare grazie
[09:56] <joooo72> are there any known issues about using grub-install on a 3tb GPT ?
[09:56] <Moonlightning> Uhh… ^
[09:56] <joooo72> seems to keep failing for me
[09:56] <Moonlightning> What language is that? XD
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> !it | Guest61688
[09:56] <TJ-> Moonlightning: And can Windows via Wireless talk to the Internet?
[09:56] <Ebolla> Use windows to install ubuntu then with the win executable
[09:57] <Moonlightning> Err, don't want to use Wubi.
[09:57] <bobvdv> I've installed 12.04 on my MacBook Pro 13" mid 2010, it all works perfectly, yet it seems that the digital audio out is always on (the red light is on when you look in the audio jack port)
[09:57] <Moonlightning> I heard it's easier to get running, but harder to fix when things go wrong.
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> vbox perhaps
[09:57] <TJ-> Moonlightning: You can install using wubi, then use the wubi installation to install properly
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> wubi is fragile
[09:57] <bobvdv> I'm curious as to how this affects my MacBook and if I should do something about it.
[09:57] <altin> can anyone help me, every video I play online is lagging :S
[09:57] <Guest61688>  /join #ubuntu-it
[09:57] <Moonlightning> TJ-: okay, how do we do that?
[09:57] <altin> I think is because of flashplayer
[09:58] <Dr_Willis> altin: you mean every flash video:
[09:58] <Moonlightning> TJ-: and yes, the laptop has a working Internet connection
[09:58] <TJ-> Moonlightning: If in Windows you first *shrink* the partition that Windows is using so the HDD has plenty of free space at the end, then getting Ubuntu installed later is much easier
[09:58] <air139> k1l_: having small issues finding out how to access grub without the live cd
[09:58] <altin> Dr_Willis: yes
[09:58] <Moonlightning> TJ-: doesn't the Wubi installer have an option to do that?
[09:58] <TJ-> Moonlightning: On Windows Vista and later, in Disk Management, you can select and shrink a partition containing the running windows system
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> altin: i use flash downntions or the flashvideoreplacer extension
[09:59] <Squarepy> TJ-, Moonlightning , I use gparted for that
[09:59] <TJ-> Moonlightning: I doubt it! wubi installs itself into a raw image file on the Windows NTFS file-system
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> downloaders
[09:59] <Boreeas> I seem to be unable to switch windows on Ubuntu 12.04 with Gnome 3. Both the Win key and the top left corner don't react, and Alt+Tab lets me switch windows, but mouse input is still only registered in the previous window
[09:59] <joooo72> HELLO
[09:59] <altin> Dr_Willis: is that a plugin for firefox or what ?
[09:59] <joooo72> IS THERE A PROBLEM
[09:59] <Moonlightning> !caps | joooo72
[10:00] <joooo72> WITH GRUB-INSTALL ON A GPT DISK
[10:00] <TJ-> Moonlightning: Besides, I trust the windows tool more than I do the ntfs-3g tools that Linux would use
[10:00] <air139> k1l_: okay can't get the system to boot the old os, I can see the files if Imount them though
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> altin: yes - several plugins out that do similer jobs
[10:00] <joooo72> sorry caps gets attention
[10:00] <joooo72> no-one responding
[10:00] <bobvdv> hmm, anyone have an idea about the red light in my audio-port?
[10:00] <Moonlightning> !patience | joooo72
[10:01] <TJ-> bobvdv: red light? Isn't that an optical out port?
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> caps get ignored..
[10:01] <Squarepy> Moonlightning, with gparted I can also create the ext2 and swaps space before running the ubuntu live cd, is not essential but windows doesn't have to work for it to work
[10:01] <Squarepy> ;)
[10:01] <joooo72> lower case gets ignored too
[10:01] <TJ-> Squarepy: You're confusing the issue.
[10:01] <Afflicto-[ubuntu> How can I see which user I am in the terminal?
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> joooo72: no one even remembers your question now.
[10:01] <Afflicto-[ubuntu> I'm currently logged in as root.
[10:01] <llutz> Afflicto-[ubuntu: "whoami"
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> Afflicto-[ubuntu: 'whoami' command
[10:02] <Squarepy> TJ-, how so?
[10:02] <joooo72> Dr_Willis, are there problems with grub-install working on a GPT 3TB disk
[10:02] <TJ-> Squarepy: He doesn't have the option of using an Ubuntu install media; but he does have access to a working Windows
[10:02] <altin> Dr_Willis: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashvideoreplacer/
[10:02] <Afflicto-[ubuntu> Ah ok, so it says Root. How do I get out of root?
[10:02] <Squarepy> TJ-, ok, sure
[10:02] <bobvdv> TJ, indeed, but it's always on, can I disable it? It has no use for me as I have no digital connection.
[10:02] <llutz> Afflicto-[ubuntu: ctrl-d
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> altin: get it from its homepage. i recall, or find a similer extention
[10:02] <Afflicto-[ubuntu> Thanks :)
[10:03] <bobvdv> TJ-, When I work in OS X, it's always off.
[10:03] <Afflicto-[ubuntu> it says dvs@ubuntu - but on the top right on the bar it says "dreamvoid". confusing is dreamvoid the nice name and dvs the username?
[10:03] <TJ-> Squarepy: He has not network cable, a broken optical driver, and only Wifi connection from Windows. Short of pulling the HDD and attaching it to another PC, installing via wubi first then using wubi to bootstrap into a raw HDD install seems the only option
[10:03] <Afflicto-[ubuntu> top right being where the clock is etc.
[10:03] <joooo72> see
[10:03] <joooo72> no one answers when it's lowercase
[10:03] <TJ-> bobvdv: I've no experience of controlling the optical port, sorry.
[10:04] <joooo72> i bet if i upepr case it ill start to get some feedback
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> joooo72: if no one knows.....
[10:04] <air139> k going to go hit buttons untill this works, pray to the RNG :/
[10:04] <TJ-> Afflicto-[ubuntu: Yes
[10:04] <llutz> joooo72: you already got your feedback: you'll be ignored in future if you don't respect the rules
[10:05] <bobvdv> TJ-, no problem, thanks for listening though. I don't think it'll hurt my hardware so it's not the end of the world :)
[10:05] <joooo72> where are the rules?
[10:05] <TJ-> joooo72: you'll get muted if you spam the channel with repeats
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> i belive searching at askubuntu.com was suggested joooo72
[10:05] <TJ-> bobvdv: I can imagine it'd be annoying on a dark night!
[10:05] <Afflicto[ubuntu]> Tj-: k thx
[10:05] <bobvdv> TJ-, in that case I'll put a piece of black tape over it :P
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> my optical audio ports had a little black cap/plug over them
[10:06] <TJ-> bobvdv: Very high-tech :D
[10:06] <TJ-> Dr_Willis: yeah, so do mine. bobvdv find your little black bit!
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> he prob found it on the floor and dident know what it was
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> i have no idea what that optical thing plugs info....
[10:07] <bobvdv> TJ-, if they can fix stuff on the ISS using duck tape, it's quite high tech indeed :D
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> old skool high end audio? ;)
[10:07] <bobvdv> TJ-, I meant duct tape
[10:07] <TJ-> bobvdv: Ahh but they spent $billions on designing that tape
[10:08] <bekks> joooo72: Please STOP sending notices all users.
[10:08] <Dr_Willis> i belive searching at askubuntu.com was suggested joooo72
[10:08] <TJ-> He's history
[10:08] <bobvdv> Dr_Willis, the optical port is integrated in my minijack port on my Macbook Pro. So no black cap
[10:08] <TJ-> bobvdv: have you searched for this issue on the ubuntu forums?
[10:09] <bobvdv> TJ-, indeed I have, but most information seems outdated or not related to my problem
[10:09] <TJ-> bobvdv: Did you see this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook4-1/Natty#Sound
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> so some surround sound systems have a optical in to channel all 7.1 or whatever audio to them?
[10:09] <bobvdv> TJ-, on the other hand I've always been quite the bad Googler
[10:10] <TJ-> bobvdv: From that it tells me you need a way to flip the toggle on the "S/PDIF" port, either via the Sound Control GUI or a terminal app like ALSA mixer
[10:10] <bobvdv> TJ-, thanks, hadn't seen that page yet
[10:10] <bobvdv> was searching on askubuntu
[10:10] <Boreeas> I seem to be unable to switch windows on Ubuntu 12.04 with Gnome 3. Both the Win key and the top left corner don't react, and Alt+Tab lets me switch windows, but mouse input is still only registered in the previous window.
[10:10] <Boreeas> Does anyone have an idea how to fix that?
[10:11] <TJ-> bobvdv: I think the first thing you do is try using alsamixer from the command line to prove it can toggle that port
[10:11] <TJ-> bobvdv: Then you can figure out how to do that from the GUI, or save the setting permanently
[10:11] <bobvdv> the toggling worked
[10:11] <bobvdv> Thanks TJ-
[10:13] <TJ-> bobvdv: Yay! That's a good start to the day :)
[10:13] <BrenRS_> How do I view the list of processes running?
[10:13] <TJ-> BrenRS: From GUI or terminal?
[10:14] <BrenRS_> terminal please
[10:14] <llutz> BrenRS_: ps aux
[10:14] <BrenRS_> thanks :)
[10:14] <TJ-> BrenRS: "ps -ef" or for more info "ps -efly"
[10:14] <BrenRS_> is there a keyboard shortcut for opening terminal?
[10:14] <bobvdv> ps aux | more
[10:15] <TJ-> BrenRS: I'm not sure... depends on the release and desktop I think
[10:15] <BrenRS_> it's 12.04
[10:15] <TJ-> bobvdv: llutz I try to avoid the BSD option formats ... pedantic I know :p
[10:15] <bobvdv> CTRL ALT T
[10:15] <llutz> TJ-: do whatever you prefer
[10:16] <bobvdv> BrenRS, does ctrl-alt-t work for you? I use it all the time :)
[10:16] <TJ-> bobvdv: thanks! I spend all my time in the terminal so never need to hotkey it. Never knew that
[10:16] <TJ-> llutz: ahhh, you didn't get my subtle humour :p
[10:17] <Afflicto[ubuntu]> What do I look for if I want to kill\terminate all lampp\xampp related processes? I just looked for apache,mysql etc couldn't find anything but it seems its still running.
[10:17] <Name141> Is there going to be a schedualed release soon ?
[10:17] <bobvdv> TJ-, I do a lot of work in GUI and terminal so it's one of my most used shortcuts. Along with ctrl alt L (for when I don't want my coworkers changing my dasktop and homepage)
[10:17] <bazhang> Afflicto[ubuntu], lampp xampp is not supported , use lamp only
[10:17] <bazhang> !xampp | Afflicto[ubuntu]
[10:17] <tacirus> Hello, is there anybody speaking russian here?
[10:18] <bazhang> tacirus, in #ubuntu-ru
[10:18] <kake123> hello forum
[10:18] <Afflicto[ubuntu]> Oh, ok.. I guess I'll try that then.
[10:18] <tacirus> bazhang: thank u
[10:18] <kake123> can anyone advise me on LiveCD NTFS recovery
[10:19] <Afflicto[ubuntu]> how do I delete a directory and all its contents? is it mr -r path/to/dir?
[10:19] <bekks> kake123: Whats your actual problem then?
[10:19] <k1l_> Afflicto[ubuntu]: its "rm" like remove
[10:20] <kake123> i am using version 10.10 liveCD and it stops at busybox
[10:20] <Sagenth> I thought it was rmdir
[10:20] <TJ-> Sagenth: only if the directory is empty
[10:20] <bekks> kake123: 10.10 isnt supported anymore.
[10:20] <llutz> Sagenth: rmdir only removes empty directories
[10:20] <Sagenth> good to know
[10:20] <Moosers> Hello; I am a Ubuntu 12.04 LTS user. I tried to boot with "OpenBox" but it faild. It does nothing, Just a dark screen after I type my userlogin password. Is it possible to go back to Ubuntu3D some how?
[10:20] <cfhowlett> !eol|kake123:
[10:20] <kake123> I need to mount NTFS and delete an NTFS transaction file
[10:21] <bekks> kake123: Which doesnt make 10.10 to be supported :) Use a supported liveCD version.
[10:21] <kake123> ok fair enough
[10:21] <cfhowlett> Moosers: reboot.  choose your user name and select your desktop environment.
[10:22] <Sagenth> Okay I got a huge problem, that I have no clue how to fix other than to restore from my initial backup
[10:22] <Sagenth> I installed nvidia's proprietary drivers from the system settings, and now my window manager appears to be completely gone
[10:22] <kake123> Using 12.04 it stops at loading boot logo....i checked some info posts and most replies state redownload and checksum
[10:23] <bekks> kake123: Did you do that?
[10:23] <Moosers> cfhowlett:  What I see after I reboot is a different user login password screen (blue color) and its shows me a dark screen after I login. Thats all.
[10:23] <TJ-> Sagenth: boot to a recovery environment, then investigate the logs in /var/log/
[10:23] <Sagenth> is there a hotkey like in windows?
[10:23] <Sagenth> F8?
[10:23] <TJ-> kake123: checksum it first, then re-download if the checksum is bad
[10:23] <Moosers> cfhowlett: There is no screen that i can choose the desktop environment.
[10:23] <cfhowlett> kake123: ALWAYS checksum your iso before you install.  You should checksum the iso you installed from.
[10:24] <TJ-> Sagenth: Hold down SHIFT as soon as the BIOS messages show, until you get the Ubuntu boot menu
[10:24] <Dr_Willis> Sagenth:  try 'startx' at the recovery/text mode consoles also. may give an error message . you can usxe weechat or irssi at the console to irc and get help from here
[10:24] <kake123> no not yet, just interested, is it to do with data block sizes? that an ISO can fail a checksum
[10:24] <cfhowlett> Moosers: not a screen for DE.  You should be able to select a session for unity.
[10:24] <Sagenth> Oh wait actually yes Dr_Willis it did give a message
[10:25] <bekks> kake123: It has to do with corrupted data, not with data block sizes, when a checksum fails.
[10:25] <Sagenth> it tells me "Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 304.37 but this NVIDIA driver component has version 295.49. Please.. etc"
[10:25] <Dr_Willis> Sagenth:  this is 12.04 right?
[10:25] <Sagenth> that last part is not quoted
[10:25] <Sagenth> yes it is
[10:26] <TJ-> Sagenth: You have tried to install 2 different versions of the nvidia driver apparently
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> Sagenth: reinstall the nvidia-current package would be my guess
[10:26] <Moosers> When I start the pc It takes me Multiple Boot screen between Windows And Ubuntu. Then I choose ubuntu and Hit Enter then this password screen appeart and then the dark screen. Thats it
[10:26] <Sagenth> I think this most definitely has to do with installing up-to-date drivers via terminal and then installing drivers from system settings afterwards
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> Sagenth: or are you using the drivers from nvidia.com?
[10:26] <TJ-> Sagenth: 304.37 isn't in the Ubuntu side yet as far as I'm aware
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> Sagenth: bingo.....
[10:26] <kake123> i looked at knoppix and rescuecd, i think they fail because there is no .EXE in the root of the ISO.
[10:26] <Sagenth> If I can fix this problem, I will tell you guys what I was trying to fix in the first place >,>
[10:26] <TJ-> Sagenth: You need to clean out/uninstall the manual installation
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset > Moosers
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> Sagenth: i only use whats in the repos.
[10:27] <bekks> kake123: You are entirely wrong.
[10:27] <bekks> kake123: Linux doesnt know and doesnt care about .exe files at all.
[10:27] <Sagenth> the terminal installation worked great actually
[10:27] <cfhowlett> kake123: linux doesn't use .exe files.
[10:27] <TJ-> Sagenth: No it didn't - because it didn't package the changes it made so Ubuntu can undo them
[10:27] <Sagenth> but I was still having a particular problem so i thought they didn't install or something
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> wine sol.exe dosent count. ;)
[10:27] <kake123> i am referring to an intel machine using it as a boot rescue disk
[10:28] <bekks> kake123: Which doesnt change the fact that linux doesnt use .exe files at all.
[10:28] <kake123> i am trying to restore an NTFS disk and get windows going again
[10:28] <Sagenth> okay well I've got a backup from before hand
[10:28] <TJ-> Sagenth: when the package-manager is not used files can be replaced on the system that we have no way of knowing about
[10:28] <Sagenth> how do I restore? from terminal
[10:28] <bekks> kake123: Then compare the checksum of the iso you downloaded.
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> Sagenth: id remove the drivers from nvidia.com and reinstall nvidia-current
[10:28] <cfhowlett> kake123: are you dual booting ubuntu and windows from the same machine?
[10:28] <kake123> so how does the computer boot after bios? the bootloader
[10:28] <TJ-> Sagenth: First, use the uinstall method of the manual installer
[10:28] <kake123> no am recovering a windows machine
[10:28] <bekks> kake123: It loads the boot loader and starts the OS.
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> bior - reads mbr - loads rest of stuff
[10:28] <Moosers> ubottu I think I explain my issue in a wrong way.
[10:28] <TJ-> Sagenth: then reinstall the Ubuntu package using "sudo apt-get --reinstall install <package-name>"
[10:29] <Moosers> lol
[10:29] <Sagenth> arg I followed some instructions online to install it
[10:29] <Moosers> Hello; I am a Ubuntu 12.04 LTS user. I tried to boot with "OpenBox" but it faild. It does nothing, Just a dark screen after I type my userlogin password. Is it possible to go back to Ubuntu3D some how?
[10:29] <kake123> the bios loads the bootloader, the bootloader finds the boot drive and looks for an .exe??? no?
[10:30] <TJ-> kake123: no
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> Sagenth: you could reinstall the nvidias .run drivers i guess...
[10:30] <Moonlightning> Quick question: does apt take options after keywords, like `apt-get install --reinstall $package` instead of `apt-get --reinstall install $package`?
[10:30] <bekks> kake123: No.
[10:30] <TJ-> Moonlightning: Yes, I believe so, as long as they are before the package names
[10:30] <Moonlightning> Thanks. ^^
[10:30] <Sagenth> Dr_Willis, TJ-, alright I am searching for the instructions I followed to install them in the first place
[10:31] <bekks> kake123: Now please continue with verifying the checksum of the iso. :)
[10:31] <Moonlightning> lol ^
[10:31] <kake123> yes i know what you meant...ty
[10:31] <Sagenth> I found this, couldn't I just do this"sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-*"
[10:31] <cfhowlett> kake123: bootloading explained  http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/X86_Assembly/Bootloaders
[10:32] <cfhowlett> Sagenth: sudo apt-get purge nvidia
[10:33] <Moosers> Anyone?
[10:34] <Sagenth> didn't find anything when I ran that
[10:34] <Sagenth> it did with -* though at the end
[10:36] <Sagenth> Alright cool was able to startx now
[10:37] <Moosers> Please some one help
[10:37] <Sagenth> So, I guess I will just treat this as fix ubuntu day.. When my ubuntu box wakes up from sleep mode I have a black screen
[10:37] <Sagenth> I am not an expert by any means
[10:38] <SliTaz> o.o
[10:38] <Sagenth> but moosers.. why don't you clean install if it is on openbox
[10:38] <SliTaz> ^^
[10:38] <Moosers> what do u mean
[10:38] <Sagenth> reinstall ubuntu in your virtual box
[10:38] <Knight7> I want to disable a key-combination (view -> key-combination) - how can i do that?
[10:39] <Moosers> its not a virtualbox
[10:39] <Knight7> *key combination in the terminal
[10:39] <Moosers> I installed ubuntu alongside to windows
[10:39] <cfhowlett> Moosers: wubi??
[10:39] <Moosers> it has its own partition etc.
[10:39] <Sagenth> did you install windows second?
[10:39] <Moosers> no not via wubi
[10:39] <bonsaikitten> so ... could someone please give me a direct download URL so I can ... like ... download ubuntu, please? preferrably desktop version
[10:39] <Moosers> I boot with USB Drive and installe it fom iso
[10:40] <Sagenth> you boot this from a USB drive?
[10:40] <Sagenth> in a virtual environment
[10:40] <Sagenth> sounds like a recipe for disaster, don't know how to help
[10:40] <bekks> Sagenth: No virtual environment.
[10:40] <TJ-> Sagenth: Mooser's installed from a USB LiveCD... now he has the OpenBox desktop env installed and its broken
[10:40] <bekks> And booting a vm from USB works perfectly.
[10:41] <Moosers> Sagenth: where did u get this virtual environment from?
[10:41] <Moosers> TJ-:  thank you
[10:41] <Sagenth> from openbox
[10:41] <bekks> Sagenth: openbox is window manager. You are mixing it up with virtualbox.
[10:41] <Sagenth> yes I am
[10:41] <Sagenth> google search
[10:42] <bonsaikitten> ... found it, thx :)
[10:42] <Moosers> TJ-:  bekks  is there a way to revocer to Ubuntu 3D?
[10:43] <bekks> Moosers: I never used openbox - and I'll just create a new user (by logging in to a terminal) and start over, to see wether it is a user based issue or a computer based issue.
[10:43] <Knight7> i want to deaktivat this keycombination from the terminal - how do i set it to "deactivate" instead of a keybinding? http://www.google.com/search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fimg8.myimg.de%2Fquestion4ea4e.png&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=ubuntu&channel=fs
[10:43] <captine> Hi all.  I now have my wifi showing connected at 102MB/s, however transferring files is deathly slow.  could this be due to using SSH connection for file transfer?  Would encryption be the issue?
[10:43] <Sagenth> I got a problem with with sleep mode, maybe somebody can help. I just put my box to sleep and woke it up so I could describe the behaviour. The light is on but pretty much nobody is home. No screen no usb activity nothing. I am using a 4 port KVM though if that would have an effect
[10:43] <Knight7> http://img8.myimg.de/question4ea4e.png
[10:44] <bekks> captine: No. No.
[10:44] <TJ-> Sagenth: Try ssh into it
[10:44] <Sagenth> is ssh setup by default?
[10:44] <captine> bekks. thanks.  any idea of how i can test throughput?
[10:44] <Moosers> bekks: how do i create a new user?
[10:44] <Knight7> I want to deactivate a keycombination from the terminal instead of setting a new key (see here: http://img8.myimg.de/question4ea4e.png) - how can i do that?
[10:44] <Moosers> and how do i reach to terminal?
[10:45] <TJ-> Sagenth: Not unless its a server
[10:45] <bekks> captine: you could use netcat.
[10:45] <Sagenth> It is not. So reboot and setup ssh then sleep, wake up and test ssh?
[10:45] <TJ-> Sagenth: yes
[10:45] <Sagenth> alright.. here goes
[10:46] <bekks> Moosers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto#Command-line
[10:46] <Sagenth> don't suppose you've got the instructions on how to set it up
[10:47] <Afflicto[ubuntu]> Ok so I removed lampp and installed the other thing by reading on ubuntu ApacheMysqlPhp page. I did /etc/init.d/apache2 restart and it fails to bind to port\domain or something. It seems xampp processes are still running? if so how can I absolutely destroy all the processes related? thansk in advance.
[10:47] <galbi> ciao
[10:47] <galbi> !list
[10:47] <captine> bekks, googling it now. thanks for the suggestion
[10:48] <Moosers> thxs for help. I will try what u said
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[10:50] <devilz> i am not able to connect to wireless network through my wubi can anyone help me plz
[10:50] <jackk> Hello, can someone tell me if this Linux has flash preinstalled? I am a huge fan of porn and would like to know.
[10:51] <cfhowlett> devilz: what wifi card do you have?
[10:52] <hipitihop> can someone point me at a reference about backporting kernel changes, I'm trying to get 10.04 with more recent kernel so that it detects my SSD
[10:53] <devilz> cfhowlett: i have realtek rtl8101
[10:53] <devilz> cfhowlett: i have realtek rtl8101e*
[10:53] <cfhowlett> devilz: ah.  I've been forced to develop some expertise with broadcom but not realtek.  ask again in channel and, as always ...
[10:54] <cfhowlett> !patience|devilz
[10:54] <devilz> i am not able to connect to wireless network through my wubi can anyone help me plz
[10:54] <Guest43513> I have a problem when trying to log in to x using one of my accounts i get "failed to load session ubuntu-2d" but it works perfectly with all accounts exept one is there a way to reset this ?
[10:55] <devilz> i guess i have some driver issues for my lan car so i downloaded drivers from http://www.realtek.com.tw/Downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=14&PFid=7&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#2
[10:55] <devilz> lan card*
[10:55] <devilz> still not working
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> devilz  wubi :(
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> you did install them.. not just dwnloaded them... ;)
[10:56] <devilz> dr_willis : yeh i installed them too :P
[10:56] <cfhowlett> devilz: side note: wubi is for TESTING ubuntu.  It is NOT a permanent installation solution = so sayeth the wubi developers.
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> id test the card in 12.10 it may be fixed in the next release/kernel updates
[10:57] <devilz> i have 12.10.
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> nothing is more permenant than a tempaory fix...
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> devilz: yiu are using 12.10 now?
[10:58] <devilz> cfhowlett: i was having hard times installing ubuntu alongside windows. so i shifted to wubi :(
[10:58] <devilz> Dr_Willis : yes :) i upgraded
[10:59] <devilz> but wifi not working :(
[10:59] <delkin> My nvidia drivers aren't working well... startx gives this output: "NVIDIA: API mismatch: the nvidia kernel module has version 280.13, but this nvidia driver component has version 304.37. Please make sure that kernel module and all NVidia driver components have the same version." How am I gonna do that?
[10:59] <bekks> Isnt wubi the worst solution possible?
[10:59] <cfhowlett> devilz: understood, however ... "Expect unforeseen consequences."
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> it suggest trying a clean 12.10. install. no wubi
[11:00] <devilz> cfhowlett : like?
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> delkin: you used the drivers from the nvidia site?
[11:00] <cfhowlett> devilz: it's wubi.  anything could happen.  Perhaps virtualbox would suit you better.
[11:00] <devilz> virtualbox is better than wubi ?? :P
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> devilz: id say yes it is...
[11:01] <delkin> Dr_Willis: Yes, I downloaded the latest version of the NVIDIA*.sh and run it throught the console. Ever since, I just see my lovely black console
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> or a full install to a flashdrive
[11:01] <bekks> devilz: virtualbox is a virtualization solution, while wubi is a windows-based ubuntu installation method.
[11:01] <cfhowlett> devilz: better?  no.  different parameters, different outcomes, but virtualbox will NOT break your system.  also, if you've got a working network on your host, windows in your case, virtual box will pickup the network connection.
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> delkin: reinstall them each time rhe kernel gets updated...
[11:02] <delkin> Dr_Willis: What can I do to have X working again?
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> delkin: reinstall those drivers......
[11:03] <devilz> cfhowlett: what about vmware?
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> or stop using them and use the ones from the repos delkin
[11:04] <bekks> devilz: You have to buy it.
[11:04] <cfhowlett> devilz: I've never used it, but it seems to be as well regarded as virtualbox ...
[11:04] <delkin> Dr_Willis: How can I use the drivers from repos again?
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> delkin: unistall the .run driveres. reinstall nvidia-current
[11:05] <devilz> kk. But i think the problem is that ubuntu don;t have drivers for my lan card by dafault
[11:05] <devilz> so how wud complete 12.10 ubuntu will have them?
[11:05] <devilz> if wubi don;t have those
[11:05]  * chuyizi is away: Away
[11:05] <delkin> Dr_Willis: How do I uninstall the .run drivers?
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> delkin: no idea check the nvidia .run driver docs
[11:06] <bekks> devilz: IIRC the RTL8101 is supported by Ubuntu.
[11:06]  * chuyizi is back (gone 00:00:31)
[11:06] <Myrtti> chuyizi: please turn that off on this channel
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> delkin: ther may have a uninstall option
[11:07] <Sagenth> TJ- that was a good suggestion, as it turns out.. my system is simply not waking up. It is not on the network because my ssh session worked before putting it to sleep. I woke it up and tested a few times and all tests timed out
[11:07] <delkin> Dr_Willis: gonna check it
[11:07] <cloudgeek> how we can use or install command line version of the goldendict
[11:08] <bekks> devilz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCardsRealtek
[11:08] <Sagenth> Okay TJ is not here anymore
[11:09] <Person> I can't boot from my drive, I mounted the drive in the Live CD, and my files are here, but I think the OS is messed up. I crashed during an update. How can I fix this?
[11:09] <delkin> Dr_Willis: gonna reboot, brb
[11:09] <bekks> Person: Whats the error message you get when trying to boot from your drive?
[11:10] <Person> asks for bootarg
[11:10] <cfhowlett> Person: if you have separate /home, I'd say reinstall ... AFTER you checksum you iso.
[11:10] <Person> I only have 2 partisions and one is a swap
[11:10] <pela> lek
[11:10] <Person> So I'm guessing I dont have a seperate /home
[11:11] <cfhowlett> cloudgeek: goldendict is in the universe repo.  Enable that and it should show in Software Center or use the cli
[11:11] <Moosers> Heya again
[11:11] <bekks> Person: Could you please give a full error message when trying to boot from your drive in a pastebin?
[11:11] <bekks> !paste | Person
[11:11] <Moosers> bekks: creating username didnt work
[11:11] <Sagenth> I've got a problem. I put my computer to sleep, and when I wake it up it I've got a black screen no USB activity and no network connection. Can't ssh to the box. Yet it does wake up, it just doesn't do it right or something. I ran a memory test a week ago to try and fix this issue and found there is no problems with any my memory sticks
[11:11] <cfhowlett> Person: looks like ..
[11:11] <Person> bekks this is my only terminal
[11:11] <bekks> Moosers: "didnt work" isnt a valid problem description.
[11:11] <qwd> This tells me to copy over the icon to the Unity launcher, how do I do that? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1773598 (Step 2 under " Using the Script")
[11:11] <Person> should I write it down then type it?
[11:12] <bekks> Person: Correct.
[11:12] <bekks> Person: In a pastebin please.
[11:12] <Person> k be back in a while folks
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> qwd drag/drop     the .desktop file onto the launcher panel
[11:13] <Person> bekks: would something like target file does not have sbin edit mean someting to you?
[11:13] <Person> *something
[11:14] <Moosers> bekks:  sorry let me state my problem again. I had a very clean Ubuntu 12.04 LTS then I tried to use OpenBox. I went "Logout" then Choose OpenBox. This user login window popup. Then a dark (gray) screen and nothing more.
[11:14] <qwd> Dr_Willis: I don't have a .desktop file in that folder, at least not one that belongs to that
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> qwd: drag the script or whatever over then perhaps.. or however you run it
[11:15] <bekks> Person: That means, that your installation is entirely broken, since there is no /sbin anymore.
[11:15] <Sagenth> I've got a problem. I put my computer to sleep, and when I wake it up it I've got a black screen no USB activity and no network connection. Can't ssh to the box. Yet it does wake up, it just doesn't do it right or something. I ran a memory test a week ago to try and fix this issue and found there is no problems with any my memory sticks
[11:15] <bekks> Moosers: Did you reboot your box?
[11:15] <qwd> Dr_Willis: Doh, I tried the exakt same thing a minute ago and it didn't work. Now it did. Thanks :)
[11:15] <bekks> !patience | Sagenth
[11:16] <Person> bekks: is there any way to install over it and save my files and settings?
[11:16] <cfhowlett> Person:  nope ... and THAT is why I have a dedicated /home
[11:17] <Sagenth> I am searching right now, I've asked this question here before too. I've been on and off trying to fix this for a few weeks actually
[11:17] <Moosers> box? I reebot the netbook it takes me to this Dual Boot screen, I can login windows normaly but not to ubuntu anymore. This new UserLogin popup appears and then this dark (gray) screen after I enter when I choose ubuntu in Dual Boot screen.
[11:17] <Person> cfhowlett: I can see all my home files though still
[11:17] <cloudgeek> cfhowlett: :)
[11:18] <cfhowlett> Person: copy and backup to USB.  New install will format that partition and wipe out all the current data.
[11:18] <bekks> Person: No. Use a liveCD to backup everything you want to preserve.
[11:19] <Person> use the back up app thing?
[11:19] <bekks> Person: No.
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> i just copy the files somewhere safe
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> and use cloud storage ;)
[11:20] <Moosers> bekks:  I reebot the netbook it takes me to this Dual Boot screen, I can login windows normaly but not to ubuntu anymore. This new UserLogin popup appears and then this dark (gray) screen after I enter when I choose ubuntu in Dual Boot screen.
[11:20] <bekks> Moosers: Then dont enter the user credentials but change the session as you did before.
[11:21] <Sagenth> Could somebody take a look at this, I am hoping somebody else understands what Post #30 means on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/989674?comments=all
[11:21] <Corelmen> HEllo
[11:21] <Person> says its backing up /media/long string of data/home now
[11:21] <Moosers> bekks:  but there is no other thing on the screen I do not see anything else then this username popup. its just a little window that asking me for my password thats it
[11:21] <Moosers> is it possible to boot in command line and change the sensation
[11:21] <Corelmen> is there a command to see whats te systemp of ubuntu server
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> Moosers: editthe users .dmrc file is one way
[11:23] <Moosers> Dr_Willis:  would u tell me more?
[11:23] <bekks> I'd purge dlim and use gdm.
[11:23] <bekks> *slim
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> Moosers:  its a file you edit or rename to go back to defaults.. not a lot more to tell
[11:24] <Corelmen> HOW TO SEE SYSTEM TEMP ON UBUNTU SERVER !!!!
[11:24] <Corelmen> ?
[11:24] <cfhowlett> !shout|corelman
[11:24] <Moosers> Dr_Willis:  would you tell me how to do it? Its my 3th day on Linux
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> Moosers:  go to console, login, use nano to edit the file. or just rename it. mv .dmrc dmrc.old
[11:25] <Person> the install disc saw the old os and tried to upgrade it!
[11:25] <Person> but it failed?
[11:26] <Person> now it cant see it
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> dmrc saves your last selected login session. no file = uses the system default.
[11:26] <bekks> Person: Expected.
[11:26] <Sagenth> pci=noacpi any idea where I would make this change?
[11:26] <bekks> Person: Did you create a backup of the files you wanted to preserve?
[11:26] <Person> The disc had errors
[11:26] <qwd> Trying to send a file from my Ubuntu desktop to Nexus 7 via MTP. It's doing it at 60kb/s, is this normal?
[11:26] <bekks> Person: Thats not an answer to my question.
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> Sagenth:  if thats a kernel option /etc/default/grub
[11:26] <Person> it is backing up now
[11:26] <Moosers> Dr_Willis:  What do u mean with going to onsole? I am on Windows 7 now. Can I do the hange from here. Ist same netbook
[11:26] <Person> getting another disc as well
[11:27] <bekks> Person: You just said you cant see your files anymore - how can you back them up then?
[11:27] <Sagenth> Dr_Willis, alright i will check into /etc/default/grub
[11:27] <Person> bekks: I can see my files
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> Moosers:  live cd, or usb, or boot linux to the console/text/recovery mode
[11:27] <Person> I can't boot
[11:27] <bekks> 0819 132604 < Person> now it cant see it
[11:28] <Person> the install disc won't reconize the previous OS to upgrade
[11:28] <Person> it still sees the files though
[11:28] <Person> it was a bad disk
[11:28] <bekks> Person: You cant do an upgrade on a broken installation. Expected behviour.
[11:28] <Person> I have a good disk now but it wont see it again
[11:28] <cfhowlett> Person: back up your data.  download and checksum a clean iso.  reinstall.
[11:29] <Person> But it saw it once? If it sees it again could it try to install over?
[11:29] <cfhowlett> Person: CLEAN install is what I should have said.
[11:29] <l3d> when does 10.04 stop being lts
[11:29] <Person> or was that a fluke or error that it saw it before
[11:29] <bekks> Person: Again: You cant upgrade a broken installtion.
[11:29] <Person> k
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> !10.04
[11:29] <Sagenth> Dr_Willis, I opened that file but it doesn't have a pci line nor does it mention pci. So if it goes in here where do I put it?
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> Sagenth: kernel options are on a line that has 'quiet splash'  in it
[11:30] <Moosers> Dr_Willis: can u please tell me the code that I will use to edit or rename it please so I boot and do it and come back here
[11:30] <Sagenth> comma separated?
[11:30] <l3d> Dr_Willis, thank you
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> Sagenth: could put it between those 2 words..
[11:31] <Sagenth> What?
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> Moosers:  i gave the command to mv it... mv = move
[11:31] <aspire> Hello iam new in the ubuntuworld - where i can become chat-support in german?
[11:31] <Sagenth> inbetween quiet splash?
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> quiet pci=foo splash
[11:31] <cfhowlett> !de|jaspire
[11:31] <Moosers> Dr_Willis:  this is all I will need to type there?
[11:31] <aspire> danke, thank you
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> rerun sudo update-grub  after editing thr filr Sagenth  ;)
[11:32] <Sagenth> Why would I do that? wouldn't that mess up whatever quiet splash is there for?
[11:32] <Sagenth> oh
[11:32] <Sagenth> ok*
[11:32] <l3d> another thought was  in the software center i see a app that i might like but it costs 19.99 was wondering I guess I cant due a quick try before I buy to make sure its what I am looking for
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> those are all options passed to the kernel
[11:32] <Sagenth> what is quiet splash for?
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> Moosers:   mv .dmrc dmrc.old
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> !bootcodes
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> hmm. what is that factoid...
[11:33] <Moosers> Dr_Willis:  ok let me try thank you
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> !boot
[11:33] <mirage91> :quit
[11:33] <bekks> l3d: No.
[11:34] <l3d> ok
[11:34] <bekks> l3d: But you can search the web for more information about that app.
[11:34] <l3d> ok
[11:35] <Sagenth> Okay well did a bit of searching, regardless you're saying I have to put this between those two words or did you say that to show me that it doesn't matter where I put it
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> that line is all kernel options. so bteween, or at the end. i belive
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> easier to tell people between the 2 ;)
[11:37] <tacirus> Hello, Is it possible to force Nautilus at autostart to open certain folders in its tabs
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> at autostart?
[11:38] <tacirus> yup
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> and you mean what by autostart......
[11:38] <tacirus> I have it autolauncher
[11:39] <tacirus> i mean at start-up
[11:39] <tacirus> :)
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> look at nautilus --help for options perhaps
[11:39] <bogor> How to install ubuntu on a usb flash drive (aka pend drive). I searched and all talks about is livecd. I dont want livecd. I want a permanent user account with sudo previlieges and ability to store files in flash drive and save my configurations and should not be setting it up everytime i boot. Like language /keyboard layout etc.
[11:39] <Sagenth> if I edit /etc/default/acpi-support will the changes take effect immediately?
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> you mean at log-in?
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> bogor: same as you do a normal hd. partition, install, be sure grub goes on the usb...
[11:40] <bogor> Dr_willis, is it so simple. WOW you made my day.
[11:40] <Afflicto-[ubuntu> How can I see my internal IP from the terminal?
[11:41] <Sagenth> Dr_Willis, will the changes in the grub file not take effect, even after a reboot unless I run sudo update-grub?
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> Sagenth:  update-grub pplies the changes
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> Afflicto-[ubuntu  ifconfig
[11:41] <Sagenth> ok
[11:41] <Afflicto-[ubuntu> MonkeyDust: thx x)
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> Afflicto-[ubuntu  ifconfig|head -2
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> Sagenth:  you can edit the grub menu at boot time to test one time changes
[11:42] <Sagenth> How about the acpi-support file (/etc/default/acpi-support) I found another possible fix involving that file, will changes to it take effect immediately?
[11:42] <bekks> Sagenth: No.
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> Sagenth:  no idea.. id say beroot to be sure
[11:43] <Sagenth> ok
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> reboot
[11:43] <Sagenth> time to save and reboot then
[11:46] <bilel> hi, is there a simple way to avoid cronjobs being executed? during website upgrades for example
[11:47] <rypervenche> bilel: Comment it out when running the upgrade.
[11:51] <Sagenth> AHRG nothing I try works
[11:51] <Sagenth> So the computer simply doesn't want to resume from sleep, any ideas?
[11:54] <tomtomtom> i think i have set a restriction on download limit for update manager
[11:55] <tomtomtom> can anyone here hlep me to remove it
[11:57] <bilel> rypervenche: the issue is that there are a lot of lines, I'll have to comment each line it's not so good
[11:58] <Knight7> status
[11:59] <tomtomtom> who can help
[12:03] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:04] <moosers> Dr_Willis:  Still around? Here Ive got some screenhots to give more idea about my problem.
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> im on my phone so my websurfing is limited
[12:05] <moosers> Oh sorry
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> i dont even remember the problem  either. ;)
[12:05] <moosers> then let me tell you what it says after I hit the code u told me
[12:07] <moosers> I wrote; mv .dmrc dmrc.old and this is the result: mv: cannot stat `.dmrc': No such file or directory
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> so like it says.. theres no .dmrc file in the current directory
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> what directory are you in?
[12:09] <moosers> I dont know
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> the promot shows you..
[12:09] <moosers> dev/sda/6 or 5
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> pr the pwd command
[12:09] <moosers> let me open the promot
[12:09] <Dr_Willis>  .dmrc is in your users home directory
[12:09] <moosers> I am now connected here with a different laptop
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> it may be a good time to read a few bash beginnere guides
[12:10] <moosers> ok i boot in to recovery mode then i cill open the promot there
[12:10] <silverarrow> is anyone on a powerpc now?
[12:10] <silverarrow> or near one
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> silverarrow: i gave away my last powerpc imavdv
[12:10] <moosers> Dr_Willis:  okay what I will type there to see what directory I am in
[12:11] <silverarrow> darn
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> moosers:  look at the prompt.. or type pwd
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> linux on powerpc was way too flakey for me
[12:11] <moosers> roo@chtsrl-VPCM13M1E:~#
[12:12] <silverarrow> Dr_Willis:  I am hoping it will smooth out
[12:12] <moosers> Dr_Willis: I will read alot after I survive my Ubuntu
[12:12] <moosers> results of pwd: /root
[12:12] <Dr_Willis> moosers:  you are the root user? you want the .dmrc file in the users home
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> so cd /home/yourusersname
[12:13] <moosers> chtsrl is my username right
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> then ls -l .dmrc    to see if its there
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> silverarrow:  i doubt it. powerpc seems sort of dieing off.
[12:13] <moosers> cd look smilar.
[12:14] <moosers> Dr_Willis: what is my username?
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> moosers:  you tell me.. its whatever your username is on the system...
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> you just said chtsrl
[12:14] <silverarrow> Dr_Willis: maybe, but as long as IBM makes computers with the architacture it might live on
[12:15] <moosers> sorry I type it wrong
[12:15] <moosers> yeah now I am in
[12:15] <moosers> let me do the next command
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> silverarrow:  not even sure who/whats using them these days
[12:15] <moosers> okay
[12:15] <silverarrow> probably servers mostly
[12:16] <silverarrow> and there are a lot still around
[12:16] <moosers> -rw-r--r-- 1 chtsrl chtsrl 27 Aug 19 17:53 .dmrc
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> id have to wonder why.. ;)
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> moosers: so theres your file
[12:16] <moosers> now its time to do mv .dmrc dmrc.old
[12:17] <silverarrow> 	mine had lived in a closet for years though until fairly recently
[12:17] <moosers> ?
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> moosers:  so move it.. ;)
[12:18] <moosers> mv: cannot move .dmrc' to dmrc.old': Read-only file system
[12:18]  * Dr_Willis has no idea what moosers original problem was
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> now thats interesting
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> try sudo mv .dmrc dmrc.backup
[12:19] <moosers> Dr_Willis:  I installed the openbox and Logout from ubuntu and tried to login to openbox then its gave me this: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/imag3532.jpg/
[12:19] <Ebolla> How do I convert a /dev/disk/by-id to a uuid?
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> !blkid
[12:19] <moosers> Which say "Enter password to unluck your login keyring"
[12:19] <Ebolla> yeah that doesn't work Dr-Willis
[12:19] <moosers> I do type my password then just a gray screen thats it
[12:20] <Ebolla> That just tells you the /dev/sdXX and uuid but doesn't tell you the respective by-id
[12:20] <moosers> same error with second code
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> moosers:  you can boot the system normally, then use alt-ctrl-f1 to get to a console, login and move the file
[12:21] <johnnyatomic> hello, i'm having trouble finding the libhid-dev pkg for 12.04, does it no longer exist in the repositories?
[12:21] <Ebolla> How do I convert a /dev/disk/by-id to a uuid?  (blkid only shows /dev/sdxxx and uuid but not the by-id)
[12:21] <becom33> I'm runing ubuntu 12.04 . and I just installed VGA driver NVIDIA . but the problem is in my settings it says Graphic : unknown
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> the recovery mode mounts things read only by default i think
[12:22] <moosers> what is fl?
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> the f1 key....
[12:22] <Dr_Willis> top left..
[12:22] <moosers> ah
[12:22] <moosers> F1 sorry
[12:22] <moosers> i thought it was a L
[12:23] <becom33> anyone for me ?
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> becom33: installed how?
[12:23] <Ebolla> How do I convert a /dev/disk/by-id to a uuid?  (blkid only shows /dev/sdxxx and uuid but not the by-id)
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> moosers: alt-ctrl f1 through f6 = consoles, f7 = x display
[12:24] <moosers> Dr_Willis:  I am in grub> command line now
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> i thought the id was the uuid ;)
[12:24] <moosers> this is not what u wanted right?
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> moosers:  you need to boot to the login     screen
[12:25] <moosers> When I boot the Dual Boot screen comes up
[12:25] <moosers> where I chose ubuntu or Windows
[12:25] <Ebolla> Dr_willis:  Sadly they're not.   And VMWare uses the by-id to list the drives instead of the uuid.
[12:25] <howardgrigg> hey guys, I'm about to install my first home server running ubuntu server - does anyone have any cool/useful utilities that I should load on there?
[12:25] <moosers> shall i hit ctrl+alt+1 after I hit ubuntu?
[12:25] <johnnyatomic> hello, i'm having trouble finding the libhid-dev pkg for 12.04, does it no longer exist in the repositories?
[12:26] <Ebolla> howardgrigg:  iotop and ntop.   One shows your IOs and their usage and the other shows network usage.   Nice if you're experiencing bad performance on shares.
[12:26] <moosers> yeah I think I am there
[12:26] <becom33> Dr_Willis, using Additional Drivers
[12:26] <marun> i have a web server running on port 8009 on testbox1 in my local network. I want to forward web traffic from 80 port coming from internet to 8009 of testbox1. How do i do that?
[12:26] <moosers> its ask me chtsrl-VPCM13M1E login:
[12:26] <howardgrigg> Ebolla, cool I'll check them out
[12:26] <moosers> shall i type my password?
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> user name, then password...
[12:27] <moosers> yeah I am now in
[12:27] <moosers> let me try
[12:27] <moosers> shall i go in to home/chtsrl/ first?
[12:27] <cairne> I use Ubuntu 12.04 on my desktop and I like it a lot, however my old laptop run Fedora LXDE pretty good last time I tried ubuntu on laptop performance suffered even in 2d. Is there a really lightweight distro of ubuntu? something that doesnt require more then 256 mb or ram?
[12:27] <Ebolla> Dr_Willis:  For future reference incase anyone else asks.    ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/ will tell you which by-id = which /dev/sdxx
[12:27] <johnnyatomic> marun: you have to utilize nat (network address translation) and some basic routing. i use iptables to do that.
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> moosers:  look at your prompt.. or pwd output
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> !mini > cairne
[12:28] <moosers> yeah i thing i am done now Dr_Willis  no error this time
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> Ebolla: i was looking at that.. figured you wae complex answer
[12:28] <cairne> ubottu: sorry new to irc how do I see private messages?
[12:28] <moosers> what is next?
[12:29] <becom33> Dr_Willis, :
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> Ebolla:  im not even sure why you would want the id. ;)
[12:29] <marun> johnnyatomic: I tried to open 80 port on my router, but it is not opening to public. the router runs a webserver on 80 port. May be it is conflicting?
[12:29] <Ebolla> Dr_Willis:  I like to follow KISS ;)     VMWare uses by-id instead of /dev or uuid when adding HDD's.
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> moosers:  i said alt-ctrl-f7 gets back to x
[12:29] <Ebolla> Dr_Willis:  Of course I just found out VMWare has a 2TB limit /sigh.  So now to find a new way to add in the raid ;(
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> moosers: so see if it works
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> Ebolla:  ;) i dont use vmware, or raids..
[12:30] <moosers> it took me the same password popup screen
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> i keep it really simple
[12:30] <moosers> I hit the password then nothing happen again. gray screen
[12:31] <johnnyatomic> marun: if you're using a dedicated dsl router or something like that, you should be able to use ip forwarding to forward your external port 80 to an internal ip address.
[12:31] <Ebolla> Dr_Willis:  I use R6 just for improved performance and some data redundancy.   And the reason for VMware is Win7 and WHS 2011 don't like to use my nic.  They load the drivers fine but won't let it access the network.
[12:31] <cairne> MonkeyDust: So is mini a light weight version of Ubuntu or just a smaller image?
[12:31] <johnnyatomic> marun: the case i was talking about (NAT and iptables) uses a computer to do the routing.
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> moosers:  sounds like unity is confused or broken
[12:32] <moosers> how can I create a bootable USB and fix broken files recover it? or recover to an early date like yesterday
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> moosers:  you installed what exactly?
[12:32] <Ebolla> moosers:  Are you not getting the unity desktop?  I had the same problem.  At the password screen click the little ubuntu button and select Unity 2D
[12:33] <becom33> anyone for me ?
[12:33] <becom33> I'm runing ubuntu 12.04 . and I just installed VGA driver NVIDIA . but the problem is in my settings it says Graphic : unknown
[12:33] <Ebolla> becom33:  Did you load the restricted driver?
[12:33] <becom33> what are restricted driver
[12:33] <moosers> I installed the openbox but never user. I was gonna open Ubuntu2d then I saw the openbox there. and Hit it instead Ubuntu2D then this  http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/imag3532.jpg/ came up now. nothing else
[12:33] <becom33> Ebolla,
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> cairne  it ets you choose the packages you want, so you can keep it as lightweight as you like
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> moosers:  right click on the desktop shows any menus?
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> lets*
[12:34] <Ebolla> becom33:  click on the gear with wrench.  System Settings.  Then click on Additional Drivers
[12:34] <moosers> yeah
[12:34] <Ebolla> moosers:  Are you not getting the unity desktop?  I had the same problem.  At the password screen click the little ubuntu button and select Unity 2D
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> moosers: menu shows what?
[12:35] <moosers> Terminal emulator, Web Browser, Desktps, ObConf, Reconfigure, Restar, Exit
[12:35] <becom33> Ebolla, yes thats how I installed my Nvidia Drivers
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> moosers:  you are using openbox then....
[12:35] <moosers> how do I change it to Ubuntu?
[12:35] <johnnyatomic> i'm unable to find libhid-dev anywhere, i need it for an include/hid.h file. I'm pretty sure it was in the repositories before but now, it's not. Any ideas about how I may find it?
[12:35] <Ebolla> becom33:  Where does it say unknown on the graphics?
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> select ubuntu at the login screen
[12:36] <becom33> Ebolla, in system settings > details
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> the system default is now openbox it seems
[12:36] <moosers> where is login screen
[12:36] <becom33> plus what happening to that wave effect in windows . is it disabled in gnome 3 ?
[12:36] <Ebolla> becom33:  I think that is an ubuntu bug.  I have that as well but the graphics work just fine.
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> moosers: did you turn on autologin when you installed?
[12:36] <becom33> :/
[12:37] <marun> johnnyatomic: my router is not allowing port 80 through public
[12:37] <moosers> Dr_Willis:  did nothing just the sudo download and install via terminal.
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> moosers:  if you select logout.. it goes back to the lightdm login screen
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> or 'sudo service lightdm restart' to force x to close and go back to lightdm
[12:38] <moosers> There is no LogOut. You mean Exit?
[12:38] <moosers> god!!!!
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> moosers:  time to 'think'.. exit makes sence.. to me
[12:39] <jiechic> jiechic
[12:39] <moosers> I chose exit now I am in that login screen where can i choose ubuntu! got it took like 3 hours. Dr_Willis I dont know how to thank you. you keep helping me after all hours with all my dump questions thank you
[12:40] <namoamitabuddha> How can I detect which type my CD-ROM is?
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> moosers: all you had to do was exit and select the item.. and if you dont see that screen at bootup then YES you did turn on autologin during the install
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> they really need to remove that autologin option during the install.. it confuses to many beginners
[12:41] <moosers> how can i uninstall the OpenBox?
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> moosers:  package manager tools.. but why bother
[12:41] <i7c> 1st question: i installed ubuntu server on my old netbook. when i close the lid this process goes CRAZY with 100% cpu: 14.#openvpn │ Dr_Willis | moosers: did you turn on autologin when you installed?
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> you installed it.. so try it out. ;0
[12:42] <i7c> sorry for that
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> heh
[12:42] <moosers> Dr but there was nothing on the screen just a right click menu
[12:42] <i7c> "/etc/acpi/events -s /var/run/acpid.socket"  <<--- this is the process
[12:42] <Ebolla> Dr_Willis:  It wouldn't be a problem if they would have autologin use Unity 2D ;)
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> moosers:  thats openbox.....
[12:42] <moosers> jesus
[12:42] <moosers> i will try lxde
[12:42] <tech1> is there a command to show a list of monospace fonts? like "fc-list" but only returning monospace fonts?
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> what did you expect from openbox?
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> ;) its just a window manager
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> not a desktop
[12:43] <moosers> I thought it was something like ubuntu with less graphic
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> thats lxde
[12:43] <moosers> Dr_Willis:  yeah I know, You said its faster then Unity and lighter
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> install the lubuntu-desktop package  for a lighter DESKTOP
[12:44] <moosers> I will try to install lxde and will try to use compiz with it.
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> openbox is a WINDOW MANAGER used by lubuntu/lxde
[12:44] <KM0201> i used to like Lubuntu.. but it's gotten kinda buggy IMO... ended up back at Unity, and frankly, its kind of grown on me.
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> unity is gaining a lot of neat features
[12:44] <moosers> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-dektop ?
[12:45] <moosers> Dr_Willis:  u dont recommend to load lxde ?
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> moosers: lubuntu is the full desktop that uses lxde
[12:45] <KM0201> moosers: whats the specs of your pc?
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> and you may want to turn off the autologin feature of lightdm
[12:46] <moosers> lubuntu-desktop package what is this? a window manager or a desktop envrm?
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> !info lubuntu-desktop
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> openbox is a WINDOW MANAGER used by lubuntu/lxde
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> install the lubuntu-desktop package  for a lighter DESKTOP
[12:48] <bros2106> how do I register my IRC nickname?
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> moosers  openbox is a *part* of lubuntu
[12:48] <moosers> KM0201:  Memory: 990.6 MiB | Processor Intel IGDx86/MMX/SSE2 | OS tyep: 32-bit | Disk 169.9GB
[12:48] <BluesKaj> !register | bros2106
[12:48] <mueddib> bros2106, /msg nickserv register password e-mail
[12:48] <KM0201> moosers: you'd probably want to use lxde w/ only 1gig of ram.. .at least in my opinion
[12:49] <moosers> yeah this was what I was asking Dr_Willis if this is a good idea
[12:49] <moosers> sudo apt-get install lxde
[12:49] <bros2106> tks
[12:49] <moosers> i think this is all i need to do
[12:49] <KM0201> moosers: i think you'd just install lubuntu-desktop...
[12:50] <KM0201> moosers: or just download the lubuntu ISO, and boot it from a USB/CD
[12:50] <moosers> yeah this is what Dr_Willis trying to explain me. sorry Dr_Willis
[12:50] <moosers> KM0201:  can I donwload lubuntu-desktop from ubuntu software center?
[12:50] <KM0201> moosers: yes
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> moosers  yes, or the package lxde
[12:51] <KM0201> i think if he wants the full desktop environment, he'd want lubuntu-desktop
[12:51] <moosers> ok searching for "lubuntu-desktop"
[12:51] <moosers> Found it: Lubuntu Desktop Environment
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> always more than one choice
[12:52] <moosers> Will I able to use "Compiz" on it?
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> your apt-get command would install the same thing..
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> why would you want to?
[12:52] <moosers> sudo apt-get install lxde is the same thing with lubuntu-desktop ?
[12:53] <johnnyatomic> i'm unable to find libhid-dev anywhere, i need it for an include/hid.h file. I'm pretty sure it was in the repositories before but now, it's not. any ideas about how i may find it?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> moosers:  lubuntu-desktop is lxde+MOAR stuff
[12:53] <Ebolla> Anyone here use VMware?
[12:54] <johnnyatomic> ll
[12:54] <kkfoss> hello, i have a thinkpad and i used to properly share my internet connection through an adhoc wifi connection. I just formatted the system and again setup a wifi adhoc, but now while other computers can detect and connect to my adhoc wifi connection, internet is not getting shared.  I am using Ubuntu 12.04.  What am I doing wrong?
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> !isc
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> !ics
[12:55] <Ebolla> kkfoss:  Did you bridge the wireless to the device giving the laptop internet access?
[12:56] <i7c> on my netbook (ubuntu server 12.04) acpid goes crazy when i close the lid... how can i change that?
[12:56] <moosers> Dr_Willis:  Compiz wave effect is the reason I change from windows to linux
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> moosers:  then use unity. not lxde
[12:56] <kkfoss> Ebolla: i don't know.  lst time I just created a new adhoc connection after starting my 3g data card.  it was working perfectly, I did not do any thing special.  this time too I did the same thing but it does not work.
[12:57] <moosers> Dr_Willis: why?
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> changeing os's for eyecandy.. is a little silly. ;)
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> any reason is good enough ;)
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> you want eyecandy.. thats NOT what lxde is about
[12:57] <Ebolla> kkfoss:  Try the link that Dr_Willis gave you.    !ics
[12:57] <Ebolla> !ics
[12:57] <moosers> Well lighter and cleaner code is there reason. Compiz proves that clean coding
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> compiz is often not very 'clean'
[12:58] <kkfoss> Ebolla: i had already read it since i got that result from google.  But it did not work for me.
[12:58] <moosers> Dr_Willis:  Cant I use Compiz in lxde ?
[12:58] <kkfoss> Ebolla: i knew it won't yet tryed.  the simple reason is that it does not work as it did before
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> moosers:  install kubuntu-desktop if you want to try out other desktops
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> moosers:  sort of pointless to try to put compiz in lxde..
[12:59] <moosers> But its cool
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> like raceing scripes and spoilers and airdams on a pinto
[12:59] <moosers> windows users getting shocked when windows are moving
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> you should learn the basics of unity first i think...
[13:00] <kkfoss> Ebolla: any other suggestion?
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> !manual
[13:00] <moosers> like?
[13:00] <Ebolla> kkfoss:  Not sure what to tell you then.  I am using bonding so I don't get the normal network devices screen anymore.
[13:00] <KuuHaHa> Hi
[13:01] <KuuHaHa> Hi
[13:01] <KuuHaHa> Is there a bot
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> yes..
[13:01] <Ebolla> !bot
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> KuuHaHa  and it's a she
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> Fembots
[13:02] <KuuHaHa> Thank
[13:03] <moosers> Dr_Willis: for this kind of specs ubuntu works a little slow, almost slow as windows 7  Memory: 990.6 MiB | Processor Intel IGDx86/MMX/SSE2 | OS tyep: 32-bit | Disk 169.9GB
[13:03] <moosers> thats why I am not happy with ubuntu. There may some settings to make it faster maybe dunno. this is why i need lxde instad of unity
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> sounds faster then my netbook.. and my netbook runs unity fine
[13:04] <ciru74> ciao
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> you want eyecandy or speed?
[13:04] <KuuHaHa> Sorry how to command to private chat?
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> !pm
[13:04] <Ebolla> moosers:  try netrunner.  It is a flavor of Ubuntu that is suppose to be a bit more streamlined if memory servers.
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> speec = lubuntu, eyecandy = ubuntu, or kubuntu
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> speed ;)
[13:05] <moosers> Kubuntu also looking good as ubuntu?
[13:05] <moosers> is it uses Unity?
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> try it on a live cd and decide..
[13:05] <ciru74> conan
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> kubuntu = kde
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> !kubuntu
[13:06] <KuuHaHa> Moosers: for me ubuntu with gnome it classic
[13:07] <KuuHaHa> Ubottu: !
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> moosers  http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[13:08] <morning> Problem: "Wireless is disabled by hardware switch." Even though the switch is on. Doesn't seem to be a hardware issue, since the switch does affect the display of "hardlock on" with "rfkill list." (Nonetheless, I'm having a hardware guy come in tomorrow.) Tried: reboot. Tried: "rfkill unblock all." Tried: "Fn-F5." Tried: disconnect battery & AC, press power button several times to discharge." Anything else I can try?
[13:10] <KuuHaHa> !
[13:11] <KuuHaHa> !not
[13:12] <morning> I've asked a question, but now I'm being called to leave, so I won't be able to check in further today. Apologies.
[13:17] <yeahbwoi> hello
[13:17] <Fluid_Mantis> Hi everybody. I downloaded Kega Fusion, a Mega Drive emulator, which was in a tar.gz archive.
[13:17] <Fluid_Mantis> I've extracted it.
[13:17] <yeahbwoi> is it possible to install ubuntu on a 2x2 tbyte raid 0 without efi (this machine has bios)
[13:17] <Fluid_Mantis> Apparently it can be opened easily as an executable.
[13:18] <Fluid_Mantis> And I have checked and seen that it is specified to be opened as an executable in the properties.
[13:18] <Fluid_Mantis> But when I try to open it nothing happens.
[13:18] <savio> hello
[13:19] <Ebolla> yeahbwoi:  Yes if you use the live CD.  It should auto load the raid controller drivers.
[13:19] <yeahbwoi> Ebolla, i run intel software raid (fake raid)
[13:20] <pabloh> how do you disable the extra tty at ubuntu 12.04?
[13:20] <theadmin> yeahbwoi: Try using the alternate CD. Desktop CDs have no support for softraids, if I recall right.
[13:20] <Jayflux> hey guys, im looking for packages (just downloaded ubuntu server). How do I find out which one of these I am: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[13:20] <theadmin> !apt | Jayflux
[13:20] <Jayflux> or are they just different repos
[13:20] <yeahbwoi> theadmin, ill try that since my grub installation fails all the time :(
[13:20] <Jayflux> thanks theadmin
[13:21] <Fluid_Mantis> Also, is it possible that unlike Windows, Ubuntu 64-bit isn't as compatible with 32-bit programs?
[13:22] <theadmin> Fluid_Mantis: It's not.
[13:22] <theadmin> Fluid_Mantis: Well, unless you have all the multilibs set up. Use "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs" to get compatibility.
[13:23] <Fluid_Mantis> theadmin: So are you saying that if I install multilibs I may be able to run Kega Fusion?
[13:23] <theadmin> !find kega
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> no idea what kega is
[13:23] <Fluid_Mantis> I could swear I already searched for that.
[13:23] <Fluid_Mantis> It's a Mega Drive emulator.
[13:23] <Fluid_Mantis> Or Genesis, to the Americans here.
[13:24] <theadmin> Fluid_Mantis: Eh...I would search for a Debian package (or a PPA) instead.
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> some emulators use x386 assembly code.. and may not work on 64bit
[13:24] <theadmin> Fluid_Mantis: But yeah, you might be able to do it with the 32-bit libs
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> there are numerous emulators for 64bit
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> not all are in the default repos any more
[13:25] <teklord> I cannot boot Ubuntu from a USB due to a bad hard drive.  The bad drive is the entire reason I am trying to boot from USB.   I am getting a udevd/blkid error, and Ubuntu hangs at the loading screen, followed by a 120 second timeout.
[13:25] <teklord> Help
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> or use wine to run the windows version
[13:25] <Fluid_Mantis> http://segaretro.org/Kega_Fusion
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> teklord: unplug the hd?
[13:25] <Fluid_Mantis> Yeah, I might try Wine.
[13:26] <teklord> Dr_Willis: I shoudlnt have to, and its a damn netbook -- not easy to do.
[13:26] <Fluid_Mantis> But I'll install those libs.
[13:26] <teklord> Why the hell does Ubuntu hang on a hard drive THAT I DONT EVEN WANT TO USE?
[13:26] <teklord> It shouldnt even try to audit for that drive until I ask it to./
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> its scanning the system/hardware ..
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> teklord  a computer does not do what you want, it does what you tell it to do
[13:27] <teklord> So, are you saying that Ubuntu wont work with a box that has a faulty drive?  That is absurd
[13:27] <teklord> I use Arch/Debian, and I never have this problem, and be assured, this is a technical problem.
[13:27] <Afflicto-[ubuntu> I have now installed apache2, mysql, php and phpmyadmin it's all working fine now but I need to change permission on /home/dvs/public_html folder so my IDE can read\write to it. How do I do that? the owner of the directory is "root".
[13:27] <teklord> MonkeyDust: it does what I tell it to?  Ubuntu is doing stuff I didnt tell it to do
[13:28] <savio> Afflicto-[ubuntu, use chown
[13:28] <savio> with sudo
[13:28] <savio> sudo chown
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> teklord  a computer doesnt *think*, it's a calculator, a machine
[13:28] <teklord> How the hell am I supposed to even use Ubuntu from a USB is it wont get past this udevd error?
[13:28] <teklord> MonkeyDust: thanks for the speudo-educational nonsense, Im not here to be lectured about what computers are.  I asked a very specific question.
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> may be some bootcodes to tell it to not scan/look for the hd
[13:29] <teklord> Dr_Willis: please elaborate.
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> 1boot
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> !boot
[13:29] <Afflicto-[ubuntu> savio: I'm reading on "man chown" but I'm not sure what to do :P
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> may be some boot options.
[13:30] <teklord> Dr_Willis: dont just wave a bot-hand at me, that link will not solve this problem.
[13:30] <Fluid_Mantis> theadmin: Now it's running, thanks.
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> teklord: reading the link may.. have a nice day.
[13:30] <savio> Afflicto-[ubuntu, what actually you want
[13:30] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[13:31] <teklord> Well well, another Ubuntu-fail.  No wonder everyone talks shit about this channel and how useless it's catalysts are.
[13:31] <savio> what's happening
[13:31] <Afflicto-[ubuntu> savio: nvm I got it to work I did chown dvs /home/dvs/public_html :P
[13:31] <savio> again netsplit
[13:31] <Afflicto-[ubuntu> savio: was just afraid mysql or apache would stop working but it's working fine :P
[13:32] <savio> Afflicto-[ubuntu, fine or you can just   change the permission by using chmod
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> point to information.. get yelled at... joys..
[13:32] <savio> instead of changing owner
[13:33] <Sagenth> Cannot resume from suspend, computer turns back on and fans start up but that is it. No network connectivity, no USB activity, no video output. I need help, I am at my wits end on this one.
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> Sagenth: one of the many reasons i never use suspend. ;()   that and my 10 sec boot times
[13:34] <SDX> Ubuntu 12.10 will have GIMP 2.8 in its repositories, right?
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> Sagenth:  you could try hibernating instead - but it may be just as flakey
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> SDX: if not th3res allways the ppas
[13:35] <Sagenth> I use my computer as an extension of my windows computer, but I don't always need it to be turned on. I just keep my applications open etc etc I've got reasons for suspending
[13:35] <Sagenth> I would prefer to just fix the suspend
[13:35] <SDX> Dr_Willis: I tried the PPA on my current 12.4 install.  It broke the qtcore package.
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> gimp dosent use qt  as far as i know..
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> unless they did a major rewrite
[13:37] <SDX> That's the only thing I can think of that could've broken a package.
[13:37] <SDX> Everything else I installed was from the repos.
[13:38] <SDX> Not to mention that the package was working before I tried the PPA and wasn't afterwards.  But I digress...
[13:40] <silverarrow> anyone on ppc?
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> still looking? ;)
[13:40] <Guest32715> #list
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> you could state the question about it.
[13:40] <Evydderr> Hey What the best file sync app. i got a ubuntu server
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> Evydderr: depends on the details.  rsync is commonly used
[13:41] <Evydderr> all the Development pccs are using Windows for game devlopmen
[13:42] <Guest32715> please help with aircrack..... using ar9285 and ubuntu apgrated to 12.04 lst
[13:42] <silverarrow> Dr_Willis: yes
[13:43] <silverarrow> I have a testpage for java based Bank ID, that immediately crashes on powerpc, in firefox
[13:43] <silverarrow> I wondered if anyone with ppc was will to open the page on the site
[13:43] <truexfan81> any idea why my ethernet would not work in 12.04, when it was used for the netinstall? seems strange to me
[13:44] <Guest32715> please help with aircrack..... using ar9285 and ubuntu apgrated to 12.04 lst
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> truexfan81: could be theres 2 or more  modules/drivers for it. and the installed system is trying the other one.
[13:44] <truexfan81> i used the 12.04 minimal iso to install
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> !details | Guest32715
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> truexfan81: see what module the minimal used.. compare to what the installd version is trying to use
[13:47] <truexfan81> Dr_Willis: i have no idea what the installer used
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> boot it up again and look
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> what is the nic exactly?
[13:48] <truexfan81> it doesn't say, it just auto detects the network devices and gives me the option to use the ethernet or wifi, i told it to use the ethernet
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> lsmod = shows what modules are loaded
[13:48] <truexfan81> it is a Realtek
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> dmesg may give some info also
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> lspci  should show some info also
[13:50] <truexfan81> i'm gonna get on here from the netbook so i can copy/paste
[13:51] <Guest32715> sorry for my english, im working in ubuntu 12.04 lst  upgrated from 10.04   when i was working my aircrack in 10.04  the aircrack worked good, but when i upgrated to 12.04 , when i try to attak with the aireplay  show this: mon0 is on channel -1, but the AP uses channel
[13:51] <tf81_netbook> Dr_Willis: from lspci :
[13:51] <tf81_netbook> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02)
[13:52] <Guest32715> USING ar9285
[13:53] <zykotick9> truexfan81: even if you find out what driver you need - from mini (aka netinstall) there is little to nothing you can do about it...  if the driver isn't present you might be outta luck for netinstall
[13:54] <tf81_netbook> well since the Atheros wifi works, it seems like i should be able to install the correct driver on here
[13:54] <zykotick9> tf81_netbook: installing ANYTHING on netinstall is difficult to impossible...
[13:54] <zykotick9> tf81_netbook: almost no tools on mini
[13:55] <Guest32715> i have been searching for compat-wireless2.6.30
[13:55] <Guest32715> but i cant find it
[13:55] <tf81_netbook> what tools would i need?
[13:55] <superfabbb> hi, when i load an ELF 32-bit LSB executable, what folders in ubuntu are modificated?
[13:56] <tf81_netbook> jockey doesn't find any proprietary drivers, so i figure i should be able to find something in synaptic
[13:56] <satish> hi
[13:57] <satish> hello
[13:57] <tf81_netbook> zykotick9: if nothing else i can build from source if i need to
[13:58] <zykotick9> tf81_netbook: on the mini?  good luck with that (the tools i suggested where missing)
[13:58] <theadmin> tf81_netbook: Installing drivers is the simpliest with the jockey tool.
[13:58] <theadmin> !find /usr/bin/jockey-text
[13:58] <KuuHaHa> #
[13:59] <tf81_netbook> yeah jockey finds nothing
[14:00] <KuuHaHa> !develop ubuntu
[14:02] <superfabbb> hi, when i load an ELF 32-bit LSB executable, what folders in ubuntu are modificated?
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> superfabbb: clarify what you mean
[14:06] <superfabbb> i've done an error, how can i clean?
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> superfabbb: clarify what you mean........
[14:06] <tf81_netbook> this is really confusing, the network manager shows the nic's mac address and shows it as eth0, but it doesn't connect
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> superfabbb  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[14:07] <i7c> on my netbook (ubuntu server 12.04) acpid goes crazy when i close the lid... how can i change that? i checked /etc/acpid/events/   and there is no file called lid... any suggestions?
[14:07] <superfabbb> ok, i've downloaded pcsx2, i've uncompressed it and i've load pcsx2, how can i remove it and his temporany files?
[14:08] <mooser> I tried lubuntu and openbox UBUNTU is absolutely the winner
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> superfabbb: delete the files you decompressed, or did it have some installer script?
[14:08] <mooser> They are only spending lower CPU and RAM usage when you do nothing with them. Browsering or any other program use gives u same pain for RAM and CPU
[14:09] <superfabbb> yes, it have a installer script
[14:09] <superfabbb> it has
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> mooser: the browser uses more cpu then the gui.. thats not uncommon
[14:09] <mooser> Dr_Willis:  You were absolutely right...
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> superfabbb: check its docs. it may have an ununstall option
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> the point of a light gui is to save resources for the apps mooser
[14:11] <mooser> Dr_Willis:  I will read some pages for faster Ubuntu. Startup applications was a good start for me.
[14:11] <Sagenth> how do I change power management stuff like the discs shutting off
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> my ubuntu boots to the desktop in like 12 sec..
[14:12] <Atlantic777> lubuntu 12.04 on machine with sis graphics fails to run graphics mode. I've tried to blacklist b43 and disabled apic, acpi, modeset etc. Any other ideas?
[14:12] <mooser> Mine for 7
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> sis is perhaps the worst video card chipset when it comes to linux support
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> Atlantic777: determine the exact chipset, and check the forums and askubuntu.com perhaps
[14:14] <Atlantic777> Dr_Willis: yes, I know. I'm using radeon cards but I would like to get this machine to work.
[14:14] <mooser> Dr_Willis:  Do you use Launcher menu left of the screen? I more like it where it was in task bar on the top as a drop down menu in GNOME
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> mooser: unity uses the left launcher panel. add a dock if you want. there are some 'indicator-applets' to add the classic type menus  to the top right.
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> and i recall some app to add a different menu to the panel. but i forget its name
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> askubuntu.com has a list of indicator applets
[14:16] <mooser> let me check
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites also list other applets, and classic menu tools
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> i basically use unitys default setup
[14:19] <langhun> hi
[14:19] <stratoka> hi guys, im repartitioning my disk, i just want to know if I should format as fat32 or ntfs my storage partition?
[14:19] <Sagenth> Can anybody tell me where to manage power options for the HDD
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> depends on what you are storeing stratoka
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> not m uch reason for fat32 these days
[14:20] <zzuper> stratoka, ext3
[14:20] <stratoka> so neither way fat?
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> i can think of no reason for fat32
[14:21] <stratoka> ok, thanks guys
[14:21] <stratoka> im off now, by all
[14:21] <afflicto[ubuntu]> So I just went to localhost/test.php and it works fine. Went and created a folder then went to localhost/folder/index.php and it throws 403 forbidden. What's wrong?
[14:21] <tf81_netbook> i fixed it, am now online with the nic
[14:22] <truexfan81> /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[14:23] <tf81_netbook> changed managed=false to managed=true
[14:23] <tf81_netbook> rebooted, and it connects using the nic
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> wonder why it was false
[14:24] <tf81_netbook> no idea, sagir3 tells me he had to do that when he tried ubuntu minimal, so apparently its set to that by default
[14:24] <bond_> hello
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> never used  inimal. ;)
[14:25] <tf81_netbook> i like it, loads much faster on my acer aoa150 :)
[14:25] <bond_> i just installed 12.04 using the alternate cd. does it come without a desktop environment by default or why do i only see a blinking cursor on terminal 7
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | bond_
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> alt. cd installs same desktop as the desktop cd.
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> bond_: whats the video card?
[14:26] <superfabbb> dr willis i'm not able to remove totally it, :(
[14:26] <bond_> Dr_Willis: nvidia gtx 460 on pcie and intel hd 2000 in cpu
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> bond_:  a dual gpu optimus thing?
[14:27] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[14:27] <om26er> how do i move window buttons in precise ? somehow they went to the right side
[14:27] <Tetracomm> What is the Wine channel?
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> !wine
[14:27] <theadmin> Tetracomm: #winehq
[14:27] <bond_> Dr_Willis: no real dual gpu setup. i wanna use only my nvidia gpu
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> bond_: install the nvidia-current package, or run jockey-text from a console perhaps
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> disable the intel in the bios.
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> !controls | om26er
[14:30] <om26er> Dr_Willis, ehm, i know that. but the opposite happened for . I logged into gnome classic session once now when I come back to unity window buttons are on the *right*
[14:30] <om26er> i want them on the left
[14:30] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> the same commands can move them letf or right side if you use diffent options
[14:31] <Tetracomm> Has anyone used the Timex Ironman Data Link with Ubuntu?
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> the themes can move the controlls around.
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> i just use ubuntu-tweak to set them how i want. ;)
[14:32] <bond_> Dr_Willis: i installed nvidia-current. do i need to do anything else or should i reboot or whut? -.-
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> bond_: if lucky just reboot.
[14:32] <bond_> ok brb
[14:33] <langhun> hello,i want to make friend with foreign .im from china
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> langhun  try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:35] <bond_> back
[14:35] <bond_> Dr_Willis: i still dont see any gui. this time the ubuntu splash showed up correctly though.
[14:36] <langhun> what doing in the channel
[14:37] <Sidewinder1> !ot > langhun
[14:38] <foobArrr> does grep have a logical and?
[14:38] <langhun> hello,i want to make friend with m
[14:39] <|newbie|> foobArrr: use grep and pipe it to another grep
[14:39] <langhun> i use the mobie phone
[14:39] <foobArrr> |newbie|: that's problematic with -A -B and -C
[14:40] <Bastian_B> Hello how can I check what app/process is using my port 8005? lsof -i doest not show it :(
[14:40] <|newbie|> you can use -v to exclude some resluts
[14:40] <bond_> can anyone help me get my desktop to work
[14:40] <pawloa> Is it possible to include additional software in a LiveCD image?
[14:40] <|newbie|> you can use -v to exclude some results
[14:41] <pawloa> so that I don't have to go through another hour installing extra software after I install ubuntu?
[14:41] <theadmin> pawloa: http://remastersys.com
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> Bastian_B  netstat with some option(s) ?
[14:42] <langhun> don't know how to see the message
[14:42] <Bastian_B> MonkeyDust Thanks
[14:42] <Tetracomm> Would someone be willing to help me with this? Even if it requires hard work to get the program to work in Wine for other people?: http://pastebin.com/xc6p0Nxz
[14:42] <pawloa> theadmin: beautiful. thanks
[14:42] <afflicto[ubuntu]> I created a .htaccess file but I can't see it?
[14:42] <Sidewinder1> !ot | langhun
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> langhun  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic to make friends
[14:43] <Dr_Willis> Tetracomm: what program?
[14:43] <Sidewinder1> langhun, I hope that helps. :-)
[14:44] <Sidewinder1> langhun, #ubuntu-offtopic is a better place to chit-chat and make friends.
[14:45] <W4sp> Bastian_B: You can check /etc/services what port are declared. A netstat --numeric-ports gives you the current status. Grep the output of this command with |grep 8005.
[14:45] <langhun> o i see
[14:45] <Sidewinder1> :-)
[14:45] <Bastian_B> W4sp netstat does not show it too, I will try this /etc/services thing
[14:45] <Bastian_B> thanks
[14:45] <langhun> thanks every body
[14:46] <Sidewinder1> Our pleasure.
[14:46] <W4sp> Bastian_B: Then it's not currently in use.
[14:46] <Bastian_B> W4sp, it is, but even /etc/services does not show it
[14:47] <bond_> can anybody help me with my fresh ubuntu install please? i cant get to the desktop even though i installed nvidia-current
[14:47] <bond_> im in console hell :)
[14:47] <W4sp> afflicto[ubuntu]: You would need ls -a. If you have done so already it is supposed to be in your www root. Is Apache chrooted?
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> bond_: tried the nomodeset option? checked the x logs?
[14:48] <bond_> Dr_Willis: i cant open a web browser right now since this is the only pc here
[14:48] <Bastian_B> W4sp, hum I am getting an Error 101, does it mean that the port is not used?
[14:48] <Bastian_B> http error
[14:49] <Dr_Willis> edit the grub boot line, (hit e at the menu) put 'nomodeset' betweek the words 'quiet   splash'  and boot
[14:49] <W4sp> Bastian_B: Then it is not declared (yet). You can telnet/ssh into your machine by 'telnet <yourhost> 8005' and see on <yourmachine> with the netstat command I gave you.
[14:49] <Dr_Willis> or edit the /etc/default/grub and add the option, and rerun sudoupdate-grub
[14:49] <W4sp> Bastian_B: What prog gives you 101...?
[14:50] <Bastian_B> Firefox
[14:50] <tf81_netbook> guys thanks for the help, i'm off to bed
[14:51] <Bastian_B> W4sp 'Connectio refused' for telnet/ssh
[14:52] <W4sp> Bastian_B: I see, see if your name services are fine or use IPADDR instead. If the connection is refused there's no prog listening on that port not is any inetd mapped to it, see /etc/services.
[14:52] <Urchin> why does GRUB2 automatially remove old kernels from the list at boot?
[14:52] <Dr_Willis> Urchin: adds them to a sub menu last i looked
[14:52] <truexfan81> +1
[14:53] <Urchin> ok, how do you access the submenu?
[14:53] <xalims> My ubuntu 12.04 server boots really slow when I don't connect it to eth. It continues to wait for internet connection. Please help
[14:53] <truexfan81> thats how it is on mine, adds a submenu
[14:53] <StompinBroknGlas> Hi everyone
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> select the old kernel....... item i belive
[14:53] <threex5> hi
[14:53] <Urchin> I haven't noticed an old kernel item
[14:53] <StompinBroknGlas> I'm having some weird problem with my USB headset
[14:54] <truexfan81> reminds me, i've been meaning to ask if usb headsets work in linux
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> truexfan81: some do.. depends on the chipset
[14:54] <W4sp> xalims: That's of no surprise. As you have figured out yourself it requires a network connection. That's the point of having a server.
[14:54] <Bastian_B> W4sp there is nothing in the files about a port 8005, When I am trying to Listen on port 8005 with apache for example it tells me that it is allready in used that amazing
[14:55] <truexfan81> ah ok, so if i got one from walmart, it would have a 50% chance of working?
[14:55] <xalims> W4sp: Yeah I do know it but I installed it for educational purpose..
[14:55] <|PuLi|> http://steam-refferals.com/index.php?id=32626
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> truexfan81: try it and see
[14:55] <truexfan81> maybe later lol but if it works i will let you know
[14:55] <threex5> hi, briefly: I installed ubuntu to a USB stick. I didn't use any fancy method: just partitioned the usb like i would a drive and installed
[14:55] <StompinBroknGlas> My headset was working, now it doesn't show up in my audio outputs under volume control
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> grabbed a $30 logitech webcam for the grandkids windows box.. it also worked on linux
[14:56] <threex5> the performance is pretty poor. I'm d/ling lubuntu now. would like some advice on portable ubuntu if anyone has any. thx
[14:56] <djbpython> im just an ubuntu user, but i restarted my computer and now the UI looks like windows 95. Very grey and square. Can I fix it?
[14:57] <djbpython> I tried changing the appearance, but it styles the wrong things
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> threex5: ran ubuntu from a 32gb usb for some time.. of course it was slower then on hd.. they do have usb3 flash drives out now. ;)
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> but it was useable.
[14:57] <djbpython> ubuntu 11.04 gnome 2.32.1
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> djbpython: you installed gnome 2 somehow?
[14:58] <threex5> Dr_Willis, thanks. I am trying 32g too. Maybe I need a faster flash drive
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> or am my versions backwards. )
[14:58] <threex5> unless there's a hack where I can use the host HD for swap or something
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> threex5: just put the swap partition on the host hd and edit fstab.. no hack needed
[14:59] <djbpython> Dr_Willis, i didnt change anything except to reboot
[14:59] <threex5> you were running ubuntu, though, not lubuntu right?
[14:59] <W4sp> Bastian_B: I assume you have configured apache with 'Listen 8005'. That should do. Anything more and the logfile should/will tell you. Do you use a firewall? Is IPv6 enabled. Did you try IPADDR instead of DNS resolver? Telnet should have told you something more than CONN_REFUSED to be honest. :-(
[14:59] <djbpython> im not sure what to google either. The things i come up with dont have any relevant hits
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> threex5:  if you are using swap.. thats most likely your biggest bottleneck
[15:00] <W4sp> xalims: Irrespective of its final purpose it requires a working network connection.
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> lunch time..  bbl
[15:01] <threex5> Dr_Willis: good to know. Thanks
[15:02] <bob__> euh ... helooo!! :D
[15:03] <bob__> someone speak french here?
[15:03] <threex5> non
[15:03] <W4sp> !fr | bob__
[15:03] <theadmin> !fr | bob__
[15:03] <bob__> threex5 > lol .. en fait c'est la premiere que j'utilise xchat ... :)
[15:04] <Melifarrro> xdmcp not working on ubuntu?
[15:05] <bob__> someone can help me? I've a problem for downloading videos from youtube with linux
[15:05] <superfabbb> how can i see the configuration of  ELF 32-bit LSB executable
[15:06] <Moonlightning> !metaquestion | bob__
[15:06] <theadmin> bob__: You can use youtube-dl, there are also numerous Firefox and Chrome addons for the purpose.
[15:06] <bob__> theadmin> thanks a lot ...
[15:07] <kjp_1212> Hey, Im new to Ubuntu and was wondering whether anyone knew the exact file path to the terminal. I tried searching for the web, but all the results are just about how to open the terminal
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> kjp_1212  press ctrl-alt t to open the terminal
[15:08] <Moonlightning> I don't know, but have you tried launching it and then `ps`?
[15:08] <Moonlightning> MonkeyDust: not what he asked
[15:08] <W4sp> The terminal you're most llikely about to use is /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> kjp_1212  it's /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> W4sp  was faster :)
[15:09] <W4sp> kjp_1212:   The terminal you're most llikely about to use is /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
[15:09] <Auditor> kjp_1212  /usr/bin/gnome-terminal
[15:09] <Moonlightning> …I think we got that XD
[15:09] <W4sp> MonkeyDust: You beat me!
[15:10] <Melifarrro> who used xdmcp ?
[15:10] <W4sp> kjp_1212: If you know the prog name you can use 'which'. It gives you the first occurence based on you environment settings $PATH for executables.
[15:11] <kjp_1212> awesome!! Thank you guys. Hopefully I can get Qt to work now. :D  Thank you all again !!
[15:11] <W4sp> kjp_1212: Credit goes to MonkeyDust: as he was significant faster than me. :-(
[15:13]  * MonkeyDust puts hands in the air and cheers
[15:15] <kjp_1212> Lol, I havent seen people in race to help someone first XD. Thank you all anyway. :D
[15:18] <headbanger> hello guyz
[15:18] <Moonlightning> I have this weird display problem…I'm not sure how to describe it other than the entire screen looks like the wallpaper in this image: http://cl.ly/IqDo This is on a PowerBook G4 booted with `nomodeset`.
[15:18]  * smartboyhw waves at headbanger
[15:20] <superfabbb> how can i read elf 32 executable file?
[15:20] <headbanger> I have a query.
[15:21] <headbanger> hello smartboyhw and all
[15:21] <Sidewinder1> headbanger, Just ask..
[15:21] <ninjafish> I feel like this is a dumb question, but does anyone know where the binary for cd is located?
[15:21] <ninjafish> Or is it part of bash
[15:22] <Umo111> ninjafish: You want the ISO?
[15:22] <Frozenlo`> Linux newbie here... how can I put multiple command in a shell script? I want them to execute one after the other.
[15:22] <headbanger> I have optimus graphics card laptop. One is Intel HD and other is Nvidia card. I have installed bumblee. Do I need to install noveou also.
[15:23] <ninjafish> Umo111: For example, if I go to /bin/ls the binary for ls is in there
[15:23] <ninjafish> but I cant find a binary for cd
[15:23] <theadmin> Frozenlo`: Simply a script? Separate them with newlines.
[15:23] <theadmin> Frozenlo`: On the actual command-line, use && (if whether the first command succeeds is important) or ;
[15:23] <aaa> ciao
[15:24] <ninjafish> Umo111: or if I go to /usr/bin/head I find the binary for head
[15:24] <Frozenlo`> && will prevent them from running simultaneously?
[15:24] <ninjafish> BTW I mean the command cd, not a compact disk
[15:25] <Frozenlo`> I'm not THAT noob :p
[15:25] <theadmin> Frozenlo`: No, but... Okay, example: false && blah will ONLY run "blah" if "false" succeeds. In our case, never ("false" always fails)
[15:25] <theadmin> Frozenlo`: false ; blah will run blah regardless.
[15:26] <Frozenlo`> Oh ok.
[15:26] <Frozenlo`> In my case I really want them to wait for the previous command to terminate.
[15:26] <ninjafish> The command 'ls' is located in /bin/ls, the command 'head' is located in /usr/bin, where is the command 'cd' located?
[15:27] <Vlan> hi there, someone experiencing low read/write rates w/ SSD drives even w/ AHCI enabled?
[15:27] <Jayflux> Hey guys, is it possible to get apache 2.4 without installing from source?
[15:28] <nothingspecial> ninjafish: cd is built into bash
[15:28] <ninjafish> nothingspecial: okay, thanks
[15:29] <Moonlightning> Jayflux: `apt-get install`?
[15:29] <Jayflux> Moonlightning that will get vers 2.2 I believe
[15:29] <headbanger> Any answers to my query??
[15:30] <Moonlightning> If the version in the repos is outdated, then I think you'll have to install it yourself…
[15:30] <Moonlightning> build *
[15:30] <Moonlightning> usually, though, it's just download, dearchive, cd-configure-make-install
[15:31] <Moonlightning> headbanger: dunno. Is it working without it?
[15:31] <headbanger> Should I install vouveau driver in optimus  switchable graphics
[15:31] <Moonlightning> I dunno, but I'd say if it works, just leave it…
[15:31] <headbanger> Moonlightning: Its working but I am having loads of problems on suspend, hibernate and poweroff
[15:32] <Moonlightning> headbanger: do you know that they're related?
[15:32] <bz> ghostery: lol
[15:33] <headbanger> Moonlighting: I read it in bumblee wiki that;s the reason I wanted to ask because I had installed bumblee only not the noveua
[15:37] <headbanger> Moonlighting: Any thing you have in mind
[15:40] <Moonlightning> headbanger: tbh, I don't know XD
[15:40] <Moonlightning> Trying to get help here myself, but nobody seems to know, and I end up helping other people instead… XD
[15:40] <headbanger> Oh Moonlighting
[15:42] <Sidewinder1> Moonlightning, It's all good, though. :)
[15:44] <lolcat> Hello
[15:44] <lolcat> How do I mount a corrupted .dmg image?
[15:44] <Moonlightning> Trying to salvage data from it?
[15:44] <kjp_1212> Hey guys, I had the same bug as this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator/+bug/566387 . I was wondering if I could help document it somewhere so that people wont have to run around asking the same question I had. Im really new to all this so I cant fix it on my own. I can however help document it somehow. Any suggestions?
[15:45] <lolcat> Moonlightning: Yes, I used ddrescue to make it. The first 93MB is corrupted. I want to see the last 268mb to know if it is anything usable
[15:47] <bond_> hello. i run 12.04 with lightdm and want to login to xfce4. when i login it throws me back to lightdm login prompt. what can i do?
[15:48] <ruffyen> is there a way to set your socks5 proxy info via cli?
[15:48] <headbanger> ok I am leaving
[15:48] <ruffyen> im looking for a way to enable and disable system wide socks5
[15:48] <Murd0ck> off topic room?
[15:48] <ruffyen> all the tuts i see say to set an environment variable
[15:49] <ruffyen> but i dont see it set when i set it from the network console
[15:49] <Murd0ck> off topic room?
[15:49] <ruffyen> are you saying my question is for the offtopic room?
[15:49] <Murd0ck> no I am looking for the room :)
[15:50] <Moonlightning> !offtopic | Murd0ck
[15:50] <Murd0ck> need to book mark that thing
[15:50] <mzaam> jayflux search for ppa
[15:50] <Murd0ck> Tx
[15:50] <Jayflux> mzaam ppa? Search for it where, via the browser or in apt
[15:51] <mzaam> via browser
[15:51] <Jayflux> ok thanks
[15:53] <ruffyen> in case anyone ever comes back looking for this answer -- you do it via gsettings
[15:56] <mzaam> bond_   try using gdm
[15:56] <dotnull> does anybody know where the Ubuntu 12.04 LTS login logo is located on the filesystem?
[15:57] <bond_> mzaam: i did
[15:57] <bond_> mzaam: same problem
[15:58] <mzaam> bond_ try purge n reinstall xfce
[16:01] <dotnull> nvm, I finally found it, took a long time. found it in the lightdm unity-greeter.conf
[16:01] <dotnull> logo=/usr/share/unity-greeter/logo.png
[16:04] <Jayflux> mzaam massive thanks for that, saved me a lot of time building from source
[16:04] <scooter> hello
[16:05] <scooter> j'ai un petit souçis
[16:05] <bugs_> un soucis de quel ordre?
[16:05] <Moonlightning> !fr | scooter, bugs_
[16:07] <micheal> hey i'm having trouble upgrading from maverick
[16:07] <theadmin> micheal: Details, please.
[16:07] <islandmonkey> !vague
[16:08] <islandmonkey> Whoops, wrong factiod
[16:08] <Moonlightning> !details | micheal
[16:08] <micheal> well i just installed 9.04 and forced it to update to maverick but i can't get it to go to 11.04 or newer with the update
[16:09] <theadmin> micheal: Wait, "forced to update to maverick"? You can only go to Karmic from Jaunty. Whatever you did sounds fishy.
[16:10]  * NoFace hello !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:10] <micheal> well i had to make it go to karmic then maverick but as karmic is no longer supported via update manager i had to do a trick or two to update but i used apt-get to go to maverick
[16:11] <theadmin> micheal: That's your problem... I think your only real option is to reinstall now. For the future, see this guide.
[16:11] <theadmin> !eolupgrade | micheal
[16:11] <theadmin> Err
[16:11] <theadmin> !eol | micheal
[16:11] <xangua> michaelhow about you do a fresh install instead of breaking it more¿ :)
[16:11] <IdleOne> ubottu: eolupgrade is <alias> eol
[16:12] <bond_> hello
[16:12] <micheal> question is 11.04 when they went to the new gnome?
[16:12] <IdleOne> theadmin: it should work from now on :). I've made that mistake a couple times myself
[16:12] <theadmin> IdleOne: Thanks :)
[16:12] <islandmonkey> micheal: No 11.10
[16:13] <bond_> i just installed the xubuntu-desktop package and everything went fine so far but i cant login to my desktop. when i enter password in lightdm i get thrown back to lightdm. help! :LO
[16:13] <islandmonkey> If you want to use GNOME 3 I recommend 12.04
[16:13] <IdleOne> micheal: follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades and you should be able to upgrade to 11.04
[16:13] <islandmonkey> IdleOne: theadmin already said that :)
[16:14] <IdleOne> islandmonkey: thanks.
[16:15] <theadmin> Hm, what display manager is used in Xubuntu?
[16:15] <thedarki> why xubuntu too slow brightness?
[16:16] <mzaam> theadmin i think metacity
[16:16] <islandmonkey> mzaam: Not window manager, display manager
[16:17] <bond_> theadmin: i use lightdm
[16:17] <meshelton> hi everyone, I have a question about networking in ubuntu, specifically getting my laptop to recognize my kindle through ethernet over usb
[16:17] <bond_> but i have the same problem with gdm
[16:17] <islandmonkey> thedarki: That's not Xubuntu's problem, it's a problem with your graphics card or you might of accidentally put it too low
[16:18] <islandmonkey> Oops he left
[16:18] <meshelton> anyone skilled with networking in ubuntu?
[16:18] <micheal> one last question what would cause graphics to strip like a slash across the screen?
[16:18]  * micheal expects a bad graphic driver
[16:19] <islandmonkey> meshelton: Don't ask to ask, just ask the whole question
[16:19] <islandmonkey> micheal: ATI?
[16:20] <deadmund> micheal: I believe the keyword for that is clipping.  Specifically, incorrect vertical refresh rate / bad driver.
[16:20] <meshelton> islandmonkey: I literally just got it, thanks anyway guys
[16:20] <deadmund> micheal: Or something is moving very fast across the screen.  In which case the clipping maybe part of the video
[16:20] <bond_> can anybody help me with my login manager problem
[16:20] <threex5> Dr_Willis, are you around?
[16:20] <islandmonkey> !patience | bond_
[16:21] <islandmonkey> threex5: No, you assume Dr. Livingston.
[16:21] <nOStahl> hi everyone, i have an older tower with two ide hard drives in it i'd like to install ubuntu 12.04 desktop on raid 1
[16:21] <islandmonkey> :P
[16:21] <threex5> heh
[16:21] <nOStahl> I am not seeing any options in the installer for this.
[16:22] <luyang> Hi I find Ubuntu runs really slow inside Virtualbox
[16:22] <luyang> is that normal?
[16:22] <threex5> If I'm running lubuntu on a usb drive, what would be an ideal partitioning scheme?
[16:22] <micheal> when doing a system test the error ocures durring glxgears
[16:22] <threex5> I normally do 100mb /boot, 4gb swap, 15gb / and the rest /home
[16:22] <threex5> for non usb installation
[16:22] <deadmund> luyang: If you don't have a machine that is like 2 x the hardware of a normal machine then yes.
[16:22] <deadmund> luyang: particularly, ram
[16:23] <Animus123> anybody know working sis 671 3D graphic driver?
[16:23] <bogor> Is there any disadvantage of installing ubuntu on pen drive instead of running it as live cd ?
[16:23] <luyang> deadmund: I have an Intel i7 8GB RAM with an SSD disk
[16:23] <deadmund> bogor: not really
[16:23] <threex5> bogor: it's faster and writable
[16:23] <deadmund> luyang: It should be fast! :)
[16:23] <bogor> Thanks guys that gave me confidence.
[16:23] <threex5> also you can have swap
[16:23] <dzragon> luyang: have you enabled the setting for virtualbox to see your .vdi file as ssd-disk?
[16:23] <deadmund> luyang: How much ram did you allocate to the VM?
[16:24] <Animus123> anybody know working sis 671 3D driver?
[16:24] <bogor> Now i am proceeding to install on flash drive
[16:24] <luyang> deadmund: well it's not that fast... alt tabbing sometimes hangs but I wonder if it's due to system updates in the background or a bad configuration
[16:24] <luyang> dzragor: I don't think I have... how do I?
[16:24] <islandmonkey> !patience | Animus123
[16:24] <dzragon> let me check and make a screenie
[16:24] <luyang> deadmund: not sure how much RAM I allocated
[16:24] <deadmund> luyang: Check the VM config.  ON a machine like that updates in the background should be insignificant
[16:24] <deadmund> luyang: Probs give it at least 1Gb if not 4
[16:25] <shade34321> I recently upgraded a computer from 11.10 to 12.04 and other than twinview problems it seemed to be working. While trying to fix the twinview issues I rebooted the computer and the keyboard and mouse no longer worked. I can hit F12 during boot to pick boot device but once the login screen hits neither work. When I ssh into the machine lsusb shows that both the keyboard and mouse are seen. Any suggestions on getting them working? Thanks!
[16:25] <theadmin> mzaam: "metacity" is the window manager (that's xfwm4 in Xubuntu, by the way). I'm talking about the login window thingie.
[16:25] <Animus123> ubottu:do you know something about sis 671 3D driver?
[16:25] <mzaam> Animus123 try hellnest driver, compile it with full xorg dev and mesa dev package, not accelarated 3d, but at least i can play some 3d game here
[16:26] <dzragon> luyang: http://i.imgur.com/h8ypw.png
[16:26] <luyang> deadmund: I think I have 512MB base memory and that might be the problem
[16:26] <deadmund> luyang: that is the problem!
[16:26] <Animus123> mzaam:can you completely describe it?
[16:26] <deadmund> luyang: rather, that is definitely A problem.
[16:27] <samcoldham12> does anyone now anything about ubuntu tv how do i install it
[16:27] <luyang> deadmund:  oh you're swedish too? ok I'll check that and increase the base memory from 512 to 1024 MB
[16:28] <mzaam> Animus123 describe which part?
[16:28] <theadmin> samcoldham12: It's simply a concept. It doesn't exist yet, I'd believe.
[16:28] <zzuper> sweden rules the earth
[16:28] <Animus123> mzaam:do it really work in ubuntu 12.04?
[16:28] <samcoldham12> ok thanks
[16:28] <MikeRL> It's not really available yet. You can get it touch with Canonical about it on http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tv
[16:28] <luyang> zzuper: sweden rules Assange
[16:28] <deadmund> luyang: I am not Swedish but I am flattered by the 'compliment' if it is one
[16:28] <luyang> deadmund: sure why not
[16:28] <Animus123> mzaam:complete process!!
[16:28] <threex5> can anyone help me out wrt getting lubuntu on my usb stick?
[16:29] <mzaam> Animus123 yes, i use it now
[16:29] <nOStahl> where can I find a guide to install ubuntu 12.04 on raid 1
[16:29] <luyang> deadmund: it seems I have to stop the VM to change the SSD setting... so see you later
[16:29] <deadmund> luyang: haha
[16:29] <islandmonkey> !raid
[16:29] <deadmund> luyang: yep
[16:29] <deadmund> cya
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> threex5  a live installation or persistent installation?
[16:29] <threex5> persistent
[16:30] <Animus123> mzaam:can you please tell complete procedure? i will send you and email id of mine if you need!
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> !persistent > threex5
[16:30] <mzaam> Animus123 install all xorg-dev and mesa-dev related package then search hellnest blog on web, then u can go on your own
[16:31] <threex5> i saw this, thanks. i opted to just run the lubuntu live cd
[16:31] <threex5> and install to usb like i would a hard drive
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> threex5  then there's unetbootin
[16:31] <threex5> only it installed the whole os in /boot, which surprised me
[16:32] <threex5> ah
[16:32] <theghost> can u prebuild teamspeak 3 via adding the repositeries
[16:32] <threex5> ok with unetbootin I don't need to boot into my live disc to make my thumb drive, correct?
[16:32] <Animus123> mzaam:right now!i too using a different driver,but that's giving me a 2D appearance! so do i want to remove this one to install suggested driver?
[16:33] <Animus123> mzaam:sorry it's uninstall not install!
[16:34] <theghost> can u prebuild teamspeak 3 via adding the repositeries
[16:34] <mzaam> Animus123 don't need to remove it, just install the driver and it will replace it, i guess
[16:35] <Animus123> mzaam:can you please display the link,for download of hellnest driver?
[16:35] <Ca11um> In Ubuntu 12.04, is it possible to enforce some form of 'parental controls'?
[16:35] <Ca11um> I need to block users from accessing the system settings, and being able to download programs.
[16:35] <BankZ> Any recommendations on a ultrabook?
[16:35] <threex5> do partitions matter on a usb?
[16:36] <theadmin> Ca11um: Unless they are members of "admin" group, they won't be able to do either. Well, they can download programs, but not install them anyway.
[16:36] <threex5> Ca11um, don't you need administrative priviledges for that anyway?
[16:36] <Moonlightning> Well, they can /install/ them, just not in places like /usr/bin
[16:36] <Ca11um> You're able to run programs though?
[16:36] <mzaam> Animus123 here
[16:36] <theadmin> Ca11um: Sure.
[16:36] <mzaam> http://hellbunker.blogspot.com/2011/03/driver-sis-m671-m672-for-upcoming-natty.html
[16:36] <Ca11um> My users have easily installed tonnes of crappy toolbars and other junk
[16:37] <Ca11um> I need to prevent downloading altogether then
[16:37] <Sidewinder1> Ca11um, You are not dealing with a wubi install, are you?
[16:37] <Ca11um> No
[16:37] <Sidewinder1> Good!
[16:37] <theadmin> Ca11um: Hm, well, I can only suggest something like making .mozilla read-only and blocking access to ~/Downloads.
[16:38] <Ca11um> Are there no services that can be installed, from the Ubuntu Store perhaps?
[16:38] <jemadux> can some one fork a ppa >
[16:38] <theadmin> Ca11um: (chmod 555 ~/.mozilla ; chmod 000 ~/Downloads)
[16:38] <sun_devil10> I am trying to ssh or even telnet into my virtual with apache running. Keeps saying that host is down or blocking?
[16:38] <Animus123> mzaam:do it form different color strips during shutdown or watching hd videos?
[16:39] <edgy> Hi, if I changed MaxClients how can I confirm whether it's applied?
[16:39] <Marzata> what time of the day /etc/cron.daily/ is executed?
[16:39] <Ca11um> So Ubuntu has no parental controls whatsoever?
[16:40] <theadmin> Ca11um: Well, no, it doesn't directly offer "parental controls". You simply have to get your permissions straight, you know?
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> Ca11um  there's nanny, but it has bugs
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> info nanny
[16:40] <MonkeyDust> !info nanny
[16:40] <theadmin> Huh, never heard of that one.
[16:41] <Ca11um> What kind of bugs?
[16:41] <glitsj16> Marzata: that is set in /etc/crontab i believe
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> i tried it, did nothing, wanted to report in launchpad, but it's already reported
[16:42] <Animus123> mzaam:can i play HD videos with the help of this driver?
[16:42] <mzaam> Animus123 during shutdown yes, during watching video i don't think so. as long u use X11 video output, see the blog comment for detail
[16:42] <sun_devil10> I can ping my ip and it is up
[16:43] <Animus123> mzaam:so do you know how to remove this strips shutdown problem?
[16:43] <Marzata> glitsj16: than you very much!
[16:44]  * Sidewinder1 Never heard of Nanny either; learn something new everyday. :)
[16:44] <mzaam> Animus123 i don't know but it dont bother me, it doesn't stop me from shutting down
[16:45] <theadmin> Animus123: It seems to be a thing with video drivers of certain manufacturers, it's no big deal really, just ignore it
[16:45] <shade34321> I recently upgraded a computer from 11.10 to 12.04 and other than twinview problems it seemed to be working. While trying to fix the twinview issues I rebooted the computer and the keyboard and mouse no longer worked. I can hit F12 during boot to pick boot device but once the login screen hits neither work. When I ssh into the machine lsusb shows that both the keyboard and mouse are seen. Any suggestions on getting them working? Thanks!
[16:45] <Animus123> mzaam:well! i want to tell you,recently i solved that problem recently!!
[16:45] <mzaam> Animus123 how?
[16:45] <Animus123> mzaam:sorry for two times recently!
[16:46] <BankZ> What do you guys think about thiks? http://weeklyad.staples.com/Staples/BrowseByPage?storeid=2278517&promotionviewmode=2&promotioncode=Staples-120819&listingid=0&sneakpeek=N ?
[16:46] <Animus123> mzaam:wait,i will tell you!!
[16:46] <piukles> :)
[16:47] <Animus123> mzaam:does your unity interface working in 3D?
[16:47] <histo> Marzata: anacront controls the cron.daily weekly and monthly
[16:48] <histo> Marzata: man anacron  and have a look at /etc/anacrontab
[16:48] <micheal> when i attempt to update from 10.10 to 11.04 i get error "Could not find the release notes" "The server may be overloaded. "
[16:49] <histo> micheal: can you be more specific what command are you running when you are trying to update and getting this error?
[16:49] <histo> micheal: also what previous commands did you run prior to it
[16:49] <mzaam> Animus123 no, ever make it but unusable cz window dont render correctly
[16:49] <wlosio> hello
[16:49] <micheal> i'm using update manager
[16:50] <Animus123> mzaam:ok,for strips problem,Please edit /etc/grub.d/00_header as root.
[16:50] <Marzata> histo: thans so much, man!
[16:50] <histo> Marzata: np
[16:50] <Animus123> mzaam:After a few lines you can find
[16:50] <Animus123> cat << EOF
[16:50] <Animus123> if [ -s .
[16:51] <wlosio> i need help, how to part and convert .APE to .FLAC ?
[16:51] <ThinkT510> !eol | micheal
[16:51] <wlosio> on ubuntu exist any gui program?
[16:52] <Ca11um> Do Linux executables not have a file extension?
[16:52] <Animus123> mzaam:and add one line, set recordfail=1
[16:52] <islandmonkey> Ca11um: No
[16:52] <bz> Ca11um: they're extraneous
[16:52] <deadmund> Ca11um: that's correct
[16:52] <deadmund> Ca11um: discover the magic of the 'file' command
[16:52] <micheal> the eol does not cover 10.10
[16:52] <bz> Ca11um: both varieties exist
[16:52] <bz> Ca11um: executability is a consequence of the file perm, not its extension
[16:52] <micheal> please read the support before shoving me at it
[16:52] <ThinkT510> micheal: 10.10 is end of life
[16:53] <ThinkT510> !10.10 | micheal
[16:53] <histo> michaeljones: any reason you don't want to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 ?
[16:53] <micheal> The first part will cover upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04 and up (eventually to 10.04). We will do the following upgrades, 8.10 to 9.04 to 9.10 to 10.04 LTS.
[16:54] <Animus123> mzaam:if you facing some problem,or you are confused,then please see bug report-#1031414.
[16:54] <ebbers> which version of ubuntu works best with vlc and audacity?
[16:54] <nOStahl> ebbers any
[16:54] <nycsd> #weecaht
[16:55] <histo> micheal: don't you have 10.04 LTS installed ?  upgraded from one LTS to the next is supported so you could go to 12.04
[16:56] <histo> micheal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades
[16:56] <micheal> Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/CODENAME/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found
[16:56] <ebbers> any is not the answer im looking for
[16:57] <ebbers> do you have experience with audacity and vlc?
[16:57] <shade34321> I recently upgraded a computer from 11.10 to 12.04 and other than twinview problems it seemed to be working. While trying to fix the twinview issues I rebooted the computer and the keyboard and mouse no longer worked. I can hit F12 during boot to pick boot device but once the login screen hits neither work. When I ssh into the machine lsusb shows that both the keyboard and mouse are seen. Any suggestions on getting them working? Thanks!
[16:57] <ebbers> that seems awfully ubuntu centric
[16:58] <ebbers> My experience is that some versions work out of the box and others don't
[16:58] <ThinkT510> ebbers: i've not had any problems with any release of ubuntu with vlc
[16:58] <micheal> i'm on 10.10
[16:59] <ebbers> what do you do with vlc?
[16:59] <sun_devil10> I think my iptables might be blocking my access via ssh
[16:59] <wilee-nilee> wlosio, Not sure there any gui's for this but here is an option. http://technoergonomics.com/articles/2011/12/converting-audio-file-formats-ape-cue-flac-linux  from this Google search  https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=ubuntu+convert+.APE+to+.FLAC+&gbv=1&sei=PxoxULCWH8bpiwLs54CwAw
[16:59] <mzaam> Animus123 thx, will try it
[17:00] <ebbers> What do you use vlc for? Because that may be why you havent had any problems
[17:00] <wilee-nilee> !nicks | please use nicks in responses
[17:00] <wilee-nilee> !nick
[17:00] <ThinkT510> ebbers: watching various vids and listening to music
[17:00] <ebbers> I have loaded Ubuntu 12.04 ten times on three different machines and everyone gave me trouble with sound including support for audacity and vlc
[17:01] <Deku> !wilee-nilee lol :P
[17:01] <necro_> hello
[17:01] <Deku> hello
[17:01] <ebbers> ok well there you have it. Watching videos and listening to music works but how about streaming to http
[17:01] <necro_> my fan only works after it reaches 75ºC in my laptop
[17:01] <ebbers> doesnt work
[17:02] <necro_> Is there a way to fix that? Im affraid my processor gets damaged
[17:02] <glebihan> wilee-nilee, I think you were looking for !who
[17:02] <ebbers> try streaming an mp3 w vlc on ubuntu 12.04
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> ebbers, please use the nick of the person you are addressing the tab will complete the nick if you type a few of the first letters. ;)
[17:03] <ebbers> And Audacity is as glitchy as ever worse than ever before.. ok
[17:03] <ebbers> ooops
[17:03] <ebbers> ThinkT510, is who i'm addressing
[17:04] <micheal> wait natty has the first of the funky gnomes
[17:04] <ThinkT510> micheal: unity
[17:04] <micheal> yes when gnome started looking like an apple product
[17:04] <g4m30v3r> can someone tell me how to install the downloads i got off the internet?
[17:04] <micheal> very bad interface
[17:05] <ebbers> So it goes. Trouble finding any support for this. I've been looking and looking for weeks
[17:05] <ThinkT510> micheal: actually unity isn't as bad as i thought it would be
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> g4m30v3r, Do you check to see if the downloads are in the repo's first?
[17:05] <micheal> i guess i should work on addressing my graphics driver rather then mod to a newer less friendly os
[17:05] <g4m30v3r> wilee-nilee: repo's?
[17:06] <ebbers> Where do i find support for ubuntu12.04 and vlc/audacity?
[17:06] <micheal> theres something wrong with the graphics that causes it to go crazy when 3d rendering
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> g4m30v3r, repositories
[17:07] <islandmonkey> ebbers: Here. And #vlc and #audacity
[17:07] <micheal> but it's also linked with quadrapassel
[17:07] <g4m30v3r> wilee-nilee: where do i find that i'm sorry im very new to ubuntu 12.04
[17:07] <ebbers> islandmonkey, #Audacity is empty went to #vlc no one could solve
[17:08] <ThinkT510> !software | g4m30v3r
[17:08] <theghost> can u use ubuntu for setting up a company lets say to run a website and help users with remote support and things like that
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> g4m30v3r, you should have a ubuntu software center and you can install things with sudo apt-get install "pkg name"
[17:08] <ebbers> islandmonkey, #Audacity says send us an email
[17:08] <necro_> does anyone know why my ñaptop fan only works in very high temperatures?
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> g4m30v3r, It is not often you have to install from the net.
[17:09] <g4m30v3r> well i was downloading stuff off of thepiratebay
[17:09] <islandmonkey> necro_: Because it's common sense.
[17:09] <ebbers> islandmonkey, I'm here because both vlc and audacity don't work in ubuntu 12.04. But I had no trouble with previous versions of ubuntu
[17:10] <wilee-nilee> g4m30v3r, not a good source
[17:10] <ThinkT510> ebbers: did you use unity in previous versions? are you using unity now?
[17:10] <ebbers> islandmonkey, or should i say less trouble. VLC was a little glitchy on the 10.04 lts
[17:11] <ebbers> no this is the first time i have used unity
[17:11] <g4m30v3r> wilee-nilee: i know but i was also getting stuff from isohunt and other sites how do i install the downloaded content
[17:11] <kjp_1212> Is there a higher privilege than root. Im trying to run QtCreator with opencv(in Ubuntu)  and the compiler says " cannot execute permission denied". Any idea why?
[17:11] <ThinkT510> ebbers: try unity2d
[17:11] <ebbers> islandmonkey, I don't know much about unity does it relate to the performance of these programs?
[17:12] <Sidewinder1> ebbers, If 10.04 works best for you (it's what I use), use it until it's EOL.
[17:12] <ebbers> islandmonkey, so log out and back into unity 2d?
[17:12] <ThinkT510> ebbers: unity uses compiz which can be buggy at times, unity2d uses metacity
[17:12] <islandmonkey> ebbers: ThinkT510 is talking to you, not me
[17:12] <wilee-nilee> g4m30v3r, First check if they are in the repo's packages there may have been modified to run best in ubuntu, and are a safe source. If you need help otherwise you need to name the package type you have like is it a tar.gz....etc
[17:12] <ThinkT510> ebbers: if it works in unity2d then you know compiz is at fault
[17:13] <ebbers> Sidewinder1, Thank you for that. I'm just trying to give the 12.04 version benefit of my doubt
[17:13] <nOStahl> hey guys I'm on the alternate cd installer for 12.04   how do you delete an LVM
[17:13] <ThinkT510> Sidewinder1: eol for desktop support is fast approaching for 10.04
[17:13] <ebbers> ThinkT510, K I'm trying now
[17:13] <g4m30v3r> wilee-nilee: its a .rar and a .exe
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> g4m30v3r, you running wine?
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> FOR THE .EXE
[17:14] <Sidewinder1> ebbers, No worries; I've installed 12.04 on another box, just to be prepared for the inevitable, as ThinkT510 above mentioned. :)
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> opps cap lock sorry
[17:14] <g4m30v3r> wilee-nilee: whats wine and do i get it by typing  sudo apt-get install wine?
[17:14] <red_baron> hello
[17:15] <red_baron> ln: failed to create symbolic link `/home/jony/.PlayOnLinux': File exists
[17:15] <ThinkT510> g4m30v3r: seriously, read up on this
[17:15] <ebbers> Sidewinder1, I'm suprised that I haven't found someone who is dealing with this already
[17:15] <red_baron> please help me in this
[17:15] <ThinkT510> !software | g4m30v3r
[17:15] <red_baron> I want to modify the path
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> g4m30v3r, I'm not familiar with wine never used it, but it is for running a limited amount of MS programs.
[17:16] <g4m30v3r> ty wilee-nilee
[17:16] <wilee-nilee> !wine  g4m30v3r no proble look here.
[17:16] <wilee-nilee> !wine
[17:16] <Sidewinder1> ebbers, There are probably quite a few; it goes EOL next April (2013) if memory serves, at least for desktop, not server.
[17:16] <ebbers> ThinkT510, Nope 2d no luck with vlc
[17:16] <ThinkT510> ebbers: then compiz is not the problem, well at least you can rule that out
[17:17] <ebbers> Sidewinder1, OK back to my original question what is the best version of ubuntu for vlc and audacity?
[17:17] <g4m30v3r> and to the rest of you i have read up on it and i'm sorry i thought this was a support channel not a put down and make myself feel bigger channel bye
[17:17] <ebbers> ThinkT510, Thanks it might help with audacity's glitch
[17:18] <wilee-nilee> hehe the IRC is not always a comforting place.
[17:18] <ebbers> Audacity recods fast then slow then fast ug
[17:19] <Sidewinder1> ebbers, Well, I'm no expert; that said, I use Totem and Audacity also runs on this 10.04 machine. "Best" is way subjective, why not try them all and see which fits your needs the "best." Not trying to be wishy-washy, but I think you know what I mean. ;-)
[17:19] <ebbers> Sidewinder1, Doesn't it seem like the question which version of Ubuntu is best for working with Audacity and Vlc is a valuable and needed question?
[17:19] <sun_devil10> trying ssh into virtural but getting a host down or host is blocking.  Checked my iptables and they look they are allowing that port?
[17:20] <wilee-nilee> !best | ebbers
[17:20] <ThinkT510> ebbers: not really, they are meant to work in whatever release you use
[17:20] <micheal> wow
[17:20] <Vlan> hi there, someone experiencing low read/write rates w/ SSD drives even w/ AHCI enabled?
[17:20] <micheal> so my graphic driver seems to be jacked and theres no way to fix it
[17:21] <ebbers> Sidewinder1, Thank you. And yes I have tried them all and frankly I'm running out of time to dabble. I'm looking for things that work not a dabble around and look for things that don't
[17:21] <red_baron> pls help me hw can I change a symlink path?
[17:21] <Sidewinder1> ebbers, Nothing at all wrong with your question. As I don't use vlc and only rarely audacity, I'm not really qualified to fully answer, sorry.
[17:21] <satyanash> Hello All!
[17:21] <glitsj16> ebbers: might be helpfull to approach your problem(s) from the opposite viewpoint: which vlc/audacity version works best for your installed ubuntu version .. have you tried the latest vlc from a PPA (http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/07/how-to-upgrade-to-the-latest-vlc-release-in-ubuntu-12-04) yet?
[17:22] <Sidewinder1> ebbers, Good luck, either way. :-)
[17:22] <satyanash> I have started my session using startx, and everything is working fine except sound. How would I turn on sound?
[17:22] <ebbers> Sidewinder1, Yes I hear you and I'm trying to locate the community that does use vlc and audacity which cover audio recording playback and streaming.
[17:22] <Sidewinder1> !ppa
[17:22] <Sidewinder1> Note the unsupported.
[17:22] <ebbers> Seems that audio playback/recording/streaming are valuable functions of an OS
[17:23] <Sidewinder1> Agreed.
[17:23] <satyanash> I have checked alsamixer And all my bars are maximixed. I am also a member of the 'audio' group.
[17:24] <reborn> hello there? i need a little help, please? thanks.
[17:24] <ThinkT510> reborn: rather difficult to help without a description of your problem
[17:24] <Sidewinder1> ebbers, Just as a side note, I'm currently listening to an old radio broadcast recording (mp3 format) using Totem. Whatever works for you.
[17:24] <wilee-nilee> reborn, tell us the problem.
[17:24] <ebbers> Hence I come here for my questions but I'm finding an Ubuntu centric community that has not asked the value of support for other applications seemingly.
[17:24] <reborn> look this link http://tinypic.com/r/116tdms/6
[17:25] <wilee-nilee> ebbers, you will see what you project to be the truth.
[17:25] <ebbers> Sidewinder1, I'm not talking about listening to a stream i'm talking about broadcasting a stream
[17:25] <reborn> how do i fix this window theme?
[17:25] <mzaam> red_baron delete it and create new one,
[17:25] <Sidewinder1> ebbers, Seems to me that you're getting a wealth of suggestions; why the light hostility?
[17:26] <red_baron> ok, but where I could find the symlink file?
[17:26] <ebbers> wilee-nilee, Thank you as I rely on myself and others to see the truth
[17:26] <mzaam> reborn whats wrong with your theme?
[17:27] <reborn> Mzaam, last night i installed ubuntu PC, everything is perfect, then now in the morning, a different window theme.
[17:27] <Sidewinder1> ebbers, Since I'm totally unfamiliar with streaming (other than on the receiving end), I'll politely and respectfully bow out. Again, good luck. :-)
[17:27] <micheal> VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. KM400/KN400/P4M800 [S3 UniChrome] (rev 01)
[17:27] <micheal> 	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8118
[17:27] <ebbers> Sidewinder1, I'm frustrated that some of the most popular applications are seemingly not interesting to ubuntu irc
[17:27] <wilee-nilee> ebbers, hehe truth is s illusion, but carry on.
[17:27] <wilee-nilee> an*
[17:28] <micheal> my graphics driver is currently wacked out can i just remove and re install it
[17:28] <ebbers> wilee-nilee, I'll take that into consideration and thanks for the permission to carry on
[17:28] <mzaam> baron use settings>>appearance to change theme
[17:28] <bond_> hello
[17:28] <bond_> somehow my login managers dont take me to xubuntu
[17:29] <bond_> i tried gdm and lightdm
[17:29] <wilee-nilee> ebbers, you are welcome. ;)
[17:29] <ei2matrix> hi guys, question, what iso must download for install on a mac based on intel hw?
[17:29] <bond_> they both fall back to the login prompt after entering the password
[17:29] <reborn> i've tried, that, it seem don't work, command line?
[17:29] <bond_> startx works though
[17:29] <ebbers> Sidewinder1, Audacity and VLC are staples in the opensource community why can't we support them?
[17:30] <ThinkT510> !volunteers | ebbers
[17:30] <ebbers> Sidewinder1, Or rather5 support Ubuntu using them?
[17:31] <mzaam> reborn install ubuntu tweak
[17:31] <ebbers> I am a volunteer. Volunteering information. Perhaps its not of value and I am barking up the wrong tree?
[17:31] <reborn> i already have.
[17:31] <ebbers> Interesting how the volunteer culture works
[17:32] <mzaam> reborn: cant use it?
[17:32] <ThinkT510> ebbers: tone done the attitude, if people aren't using the features you are then they can't really help you
[17:32] <reborn> i already to change the window theme, and still same window theme. i don't understand why.
[17:32] <ThinkT510> ebbers: try looking at the forums
[17:32] <Miggs> Hey guys, I've got a problem with either PulseAudio or Zeroconf not picking up my network sound sink (even though it can be seen in avahi-discover - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1154444/ - and paprefs is set to make network sinks available locally). Any hints?
[17:32] <mynickname> do you guys think that a file with a virus, like a .pdf or .wmv file would be a threat in linux?
[17:33] <Sidewinder1> Yes, the forums is/are a most valuable resource!
[17:33] <ebbers> ThinkT510, I guess i'm amazed that no one cares to use Audacity and VLC   I truly find it hard to accept but i will stop interuptinfg this chat thank you!
[17:34] <glitsj16> ei2matrix: http://lifehacker.com/5934942/how-to-dual-boot-linux-on-your-mac-and-take-back-your-powerhouse-apple-hardware might be worth a read
[17:34] <wilee-nilee> mynickname, hard to sya but it could be passed on to a OS that would be affected, having one on board is not good.
[17:34] <wilee-nilee> zay*
[17:34] <wilee-nilee> say*
[17:34] <ebbers> ThinkT510, I have and usually check high and low before asking for a volunteer to help. I have looked everywhere. NOTHING about 12.04 and Audacity and VLC that was effective
[17:34] <i7c> is there a way to keep an encrypted /home mounted after logging out from ubuntu server? because i might have processes running in background that keep use /home
[17:35] <Sidewinder1> mynickname, The short answer is a resounding no. That said perhaps you could have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[17:35] <mzaam> reborn try lxappearance
[17:35] <mzaam> baron what link are you going to change?
[17:36] <UnknownFork> Hello, I have had an installation of Xubuntu 12.04 for over 3 months on my Toshiba Mini NB505-N508BL. Two days ago its touchpad randomly stopped working and it still won't work after I rebooted multiple times. The touchpad used to stop working for short periods of time, but would continue to work after a reboot. Help?
[17:36] <Sidewinder1> mynickname, And, what wilee-nilee said. :-)
[17:36] <mynickname> so a resounding maybe? :)
[17:36] <ebbers> THE LAND MAYBE
[17:36] <mynickname> that off chance makes me want to install avast or something
[17:37] <reborn> brilliant, thanks..
[17:37] <ThinkT510> ebbers: lets be specific, what is the problem you are having with audacity
[17:37] <Sidewinder1> mynickname, Please read the forum link that I gave you. :)
[17:38] <mynickname> I think I'll check out that ubuntu security page; I'm multitasking intensively right now
[17:38] <mynickname> thanks, btw
[17:38] <Sidewinder1> My pleasure.
[17:38] <L3top> !virus | mynickname
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> mynickname, the definition of a virus lets just say badware here is different in opensource, you can install an av but they work diffrently in open source it is not a find a kill mech it is justa a find, and you decide how to kill it and you will get false positives most likely.
[17:38] <ebbers> ThinkT510, When I record it speeds up and slows down every 3 seconds roughly
[17:39] <bond_> does anybody know an answer to my question? :( its kinda annoying to use the console all the time
[17:39] <ebbers> ThinkT510, I tried changing the project rate and that did affect how often this would occur but it continued anyway
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> bond_, you might start a thread at the ubuntu forums just to have another option.
[17:40] <mzaam> bond_ simply fresh install xubuntu or try other window manager
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> or try #xubuntu
[17:41] <ebbers> Truly just frustrated about how many times I've loaded 12.04 and now I'm coming to the realization that I have to load 10.04
[17:42] <ebbers> Thanks for all your help and responses!  -Ebbers
[17:42] <Sidewinder1> :)\
[17:42] <mynickname> thanks, guys
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[17:43] <i7c> is there a way to keep an encrypted /home mounted after logging out from ubuntu server? because i might have processes running in background that keep use /home
[17:43] <qdb> why in ubuntu 12 04 , after install of it , connecting to internet, when i run update manager, then restart it, it do not work. if i look with top command, i see dpkg, aptd and other such install processes. it is some background update.
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> if you got processes running. arent you still logged in?
[17:44] <wilee-nilee> qdb, What is not working?
[17:44] <qdb> wilee-nilee, i say update process is strange in 12 04
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> qdb: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade    same as in all releases of Ubuntu.
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> qdb, Hmm seems the same as any other release to me, not sure I understand you problem.
[17:45] <Dr_Willis> try just using the cli tools above. not the manager
[17:45] <qdb> wilee-nilee, i have to wait for ending of update processes , i do not see any report, what it is installing
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> your*
[17:45]  * ActionParsnip thinks apt-fast should be default installed :)
[17:45] <A_J> ActionParsnip oh hai.
[17:45] <wilee-nilee> qdb, use apt-get you will see everything installed.
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> +1 apt-fast
[17:46] <ebbers> ActionParsnip, I've tried both the apt-get update and upgrade as well as software updates and I don't think they operate exactly the same. What do you think?
[17:46] <qdb> wilee-nilee, after that process starts, apt-get wont work also , because installing is locked
[17:46] <shade34321> I recently upgraded a computer from 11.10 to 12.04 and other than twinview problems it seemed to be working. While trying to fix the twinview issues I rebooted the computer and the keyboard and mouse no longer worked. I can hit F12 during boot to pick boot device but once the login screen hits neither work. When I ssh into the machine lsusb shows that both the keyboard and mouse are seen. Any suggestions on getting them working? Thanks!
[17:46] <qdb> that process seems starts by itself sometimes
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> ebbers: they achieve the same end
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> qdb, you can only have one install running at a time and if you stop it in the middle it will lock.
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> and only one open as well
[17:47] <qdb> wilee-nilee, any way, as ubuntu is going to be graphical desktop, you should talk about it
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> ebbers: you just get to see what is going on, plus any errors will be shown. The GUI apps don't really show that
[17:47] <qdb> wilee-nilee, yes . i know. i hope i can read about that new technology updating
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> qdb, you are not making sense I suspect this language barrier or cultural.
[17:47] <ebbers> ActionParsnip, I've noticed a big difference when loading systems if I use apt-get verses software update. What I notice is that the software update seems to not work in the same order as it would if I didn't uses aopt-get
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> is an*
[17:48] <qdb> wilee-nilee, yes . i know. i hope i can read something official about that  updating in new technology way
[17:48] <ebbers> ActionParsnip, Meaning I end up with a different system load based on which style i choose
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> qdb: if you are having issues with the GUI updater, use the CLI and it cleans things up well
[17:48] <AcidRain2012> someone hacked my forums :/
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> ebbers: do you mean load as in CPU usage?
[17:49] <ebbers> ActionParsnip, This is just one thing I've noticed over the years. No I mean a different set of packages and updates
[17:50] <bond_> i just found out the guest account logs into xfce
[17:50] <Metzee> hello....can help me for find windows 7 ultimate free??
[17:50] <bond_> but my other user cant
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> ebbers: the packages and deps are identical, so the same packages will be updated and installed
[17:50] <bond_> this must be related to the user :X
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> bond_: so whats the issue?
[17:50] <Metzee> hello....can help me for find windows 7 ultimate free??
[17:51] <ebbers> ActionParsnip, The system performs differently based on the procedure. I tend to stick with software updates until they are complete then I use apt-get
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> ebbers: the required packages are read for each package and satisfied
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> bond_:  how about just starting a x session with a terminal and launching xdce desktop by hand and look for errors
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> Metzee:  no..
[17:51] <ebbers> ActionParsnip, Why inconsistency then?
[17:51] <qdb> ActionParsnip, ok i may do  that, but before that i should kill several processes. now i want just read some explanations from ubuntu
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> ebbers: i'm very sure its identical, otherwise you would gen an inconsistant package state if deps are not all met
[17:52] <bond_> Dr_Willis: when i run startx as root xfce starts automatically
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> ebbers: itd be a massive bug and would have been sorted ages ago as it is a fundamental foundation of the OS
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> bond_: carefully check the files and dirs in the problem users home.. last timr i saw somthing similer .Xauthority and other files were owned by root when thet shouldent been
[17:53] <ebbers> ActionParsnip, So you are saying that software update does the exact same thing in the exact same order as apt-get update and upgrade?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | qdb
[17:53] <livingdaylight> haro
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> ebbers: yes, its just a pretty GUI,some insall the recommended packages, others don't but they will definately install what is needed for the application to run as expected
[17:54] <qdb> ActionParsnip, thank you. i do not need that right now. i want just find some info in internet
[17:54] <livingdaylight> after apt-get update it is apt-get dist-upgrade? NOT apt-get upgrade?
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> ebbers: where have you heard this from?
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight: i do both
[17:54] <Moonlightning> Dr_Willis: isn't that redundant?
[17:54] <Moonlightning> I just do dist-upgrade
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight: dist-upgrade is a more intensive upgrade
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> livingdaylight: you can use dist-upgrade and upgrade, you need update to reread the repos
[17:55] <bond_> Dr_Willis: actually .Xauthority IS owned by root and has rw rights on my system
[17:55] <ThinkT510> !dist-upgrade
[17:55] <ebbers> ActionParsnip, Its been my experience I've loading ubuntu since version 6
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> bond_:  it should be owned by the user. id say just move/rename it.. and try logging in
[17:56] <root_> Q all
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> ebbers: there is no version 6, there is 6.06 and 6.10
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> ebbers: I've used ubuntu since Gutsy (7.10)
[17:56]  * Dr_Willis used to use cp/m and minix ;)
[17:57] <ebbers> ActionParsnip, I've loaded Ubuntu 500 +/-. I just noticed this again and again sometimes more than others but definately noticed that the order matters.
[17:57]  * ActionParsnip used to use Mandrake 7 (not quite that far back)
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> ebbers: then I suggest you report a bug
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> order matters in what way? whats different...
[17:58] <KOHUHA> Does anybody know how make working pulseaudio+jack?
[17:59] <Colt> can anyone help with sda1 filling up rapidly?
[17:59] <qdb> is there ubuntu developers channel?
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> !motu
[17:59] <ZummiG777> Question: I'm using Ubuntu Server 12.04 (fully patched).  I put some rules into /etc/sysctl.d/, including ending them in .conf.  However, when I run sysctl -p or reboot the system the rules are not
[17:59] <mooser> Anyone knows how to run awn-applet-indicator on ubuntu?
[17:59] <ZummiG777> loaded
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> Colt: you can use disk space analyser to see what folder is largest.
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> mooser: you add it to the awn dock
[18:00] <bond_> Dr_Willis: i chowned .Xauthority to my user and group but the problem persits. actually there are other files owned by root in my users home dir. can i just chown them all?
[18:00] <Colt> did a du --max-depth=1 -h
[18:00]  * KOHUHA f@cks with backtrack
[18:00] <Colt> left over space is in .
[18:00] <mooser> where is awn dock ?
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> bond_: you could just move everything to some backupdir so your home is clean.. and see if it works.. then move things back one by one
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> !awn
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> !dock
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> awn=avant-window-navigator
[18:01] <Plumblum> after installing phpmyadmin i cant axcess it -at all, does it have to do with me having the webroot folder in my home folder ?
[18:01] <mooser> shall I download it from software centeR?
[18:02] <shade34321> I recently upgraded a computer from 11.10 to 12.04 and other than twinview problems it seemed to be working. While trying to fix the twinview issues I rebooted the computer and the keyboard and mouse no longer worked. I can hit F12 during boot to pick boot device but once the login screen hits neither work. When I ssh into the machine lsusb shows that both the keyboard and mouse are seen. Any suggestions on getting them working? Thanks!
[18:02] <Plumblum> aka do i have to add special perms for the user phpmyadmin is running under
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> mooser: err.. if you want to use awn.. you need to install it of course.....
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> ..
[18:02] <mooser> by the way where can I change the pidgins keyboar language setting. I am having hard time to type
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Colt: you can use bleachbit to free space up
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> i suggest you use xchat for irc, not pidgin
[18:02] <Colt> k
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> mooser: i love pidgin for irc
[18:03] <theadmin> mooser: The language settings are in system settings, nothing to do with Pidign
[18:03] <theadmin> s/Pidign/Pidgin/
[18:03] <Shirakawasuna> I'm getting somewhat crappy graphics performance with an integrated nvidia card (not really unexpected). Does anyone here have experience with having *two* nVidia cards but only actually using one? I'm thinking about buying one.
[18:04] <theadmin> Shirakawasuna: I'm not too sure about nVidia, but with AMD cards you can select which to use in amdcccle easily.
[18:04] <mooser> theadmin but keys are acting different in browsers address bar and in pidgin
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> Shirakawasuna:  if they both use the same version of the nvidia driver they should work fine.
[18:04] <theadmin> mooser: Oh? That's not supposed to happen though
[18:04] <bond__> Dr_Willis, finally im on my desktop :) i just chowned my whole home dir
[18:05] <mooser> SORRY THEY WERE NOT
[18:05] <Shirakawasuna> Dr_Willis: Work fine as in I can easily configure it to just use the discrete card?
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> mooser: you may be able to set the language maybe and then run pidgin...not sure really
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> bond__: running things as root withoug gksudo, or running nautilus as root can mess permissions up
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> bond__:  seen this many times
[18:05] <Moonlightning> I think I have outdated or wrong drivers for my system. How can I find and install the correct ones? (PowerBook G4 | Ubuntu 12.04)
[18:05] <ei2matrix> Guys, this version work on Mac/Intel based? ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:06] <theadmin> Moonlightning: Use jockey (It's called "Additional Drivers" in the menus)
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> Shirakawasuna: switch cards, use both, use multi monitors... i do it all with my 2 nvidia cards
[18:06] <theadmin> ei2matrix: That is for any 64-bit machines.
[18:06] <Moonlightning> theadmin: is there a way I can do it through a CLI? It's hard to see anything in the GUI…
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> !mac
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> ei2matrix: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[18:07] <theadmin> Moonlightning: Sure thing. "sudo jockey-text -l" will list available drivers, and "sudo jockey-text -e 'drivername'" will enable any driver you choose.
[18:07] <Moonlightning> theadmin: okay, thanks ^^
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Moonlightning: what video chip are you using?
[18:08] <Moonlightning> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure. This is a PowerBook G4, and I'm not sure how to find out from Ubuntu.
[18:08] <Moonlightning> I wiped out the OS X installation and don't have the install disc, either.
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Moonlightning: if you run:  lspci |grep -i vga    what is output?
[18:08] <Moonlightning> Hang on…
[18:09] <Moonlightning> (Why does it take so long to log in on a tty? 6_9 )
[18:09] <ninjafish> Can anyone direct me to a working tutorial on how to chroot ssh users, I just followed through a couple tutorials I found online and neither seemed to have worked properly
[18:09] <Marco> Ciao!
[18:10] <Marco> C'è qualcuno che parla italiano?
[18:10] <DJones> !it
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> b
[18:12] <Moonlightning> Argh…
[18:12] <Moonlightning> Is there an easy way to force the system to rescan for Wi-Fi networks?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Moonlightning: sudo iwlist scan
[18:12] <shade34321> can you use ext4 for /boot or should you use something else?
[18:12] <mooser> trying to get ride of UBUNTU's LAuncher bar
[18:13] <theadmin> !nounity | mooser
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> shade34321, A boot partition?
[18:13] <shade34321> wilee-nilee: yeah
[18:13] <wilee-nilee> shade34321, Are you sure you need one?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> mooser: install gnome-panel and log off, then log in to the new session. If you dislike Unity, install Xubutu, Kubuntu or Lubuntu and it won't even be installed
[18:13] <Moonlightning> ActionParsnip: does that affect the GUI? I still don't see anything in the network list…
[18:13] <mooser> theadmin yeah I want the drop down from task bar
[18:13] <Moonlightning> …weird…I don't see the hidden-network option here either. 6_9
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Moonlightning: if the CLI can scan the network then the GUI should
[18:14] <theadmin> mooser: You might want to install gnome-panel then
[18:14] <sam1967> anyone heard about synthetic telepathy ?
[18:14] <theadmin> mooser: sudo apt-get install gnome-panel
[18:14] <theadmin> sam1967: offtopic much
[18:14] <shade34321> wilee-nilee: I'm doing a custom partition on the install, mainly due to a NFS mounted home partition and if I need to reinstall b/c a user messed something up it'll be a bit easier for me
[18:14] <mooser> I just installed Avant WIndow NAvigator
[18:14] <Moonlightning> Argh. Plan B: How do I connect to a WPA2-secured network through a CLI and get the system to remember the network?
[18:15] <wilee-nilee> shade34321, A standard msdos table with extension type partitions should not need a boot partition, but if you feel you need it a ext 4 type is fine.
[18:15] <Shirakawasuna> Dr_Willis: awesome, thank you! I'll be off to the good will soon to see what cards are available :)
[18:16] <sam1967> thheadmin: where should i go to discuss it ?
[18:16] <shade34321> wilee-nilee: well that was my question, is there something I should be using instead
[18:17] <theadmin> Moonlightning: Not sure about the "remember the network" bit, but... wpa_passphrase "your_essid" "your_passphrase" | sudo tee /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf && wpa_supplicant -B -Dwext -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[18:17] <wilee-nilee> shade34321, I'm not familiar with a  NFS mounted home partition so not sure in regards to that and a boot partition, others should know though.
[18:18] <Moonlightning> theadmin: shouldn't that be `tee -a`?
[18:19] <theadmin> wilee-nilee: /home is defined by FHS as an optional thingy, so that's no big deal. You're fine without a /home altogether.
[18:19] <mooser> Dr_Willis:  How do I use indictor with awn? I installed both
[18:19] <bogor> I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 LTS on flash drive. It seems to be stuck as there is no progress in progress bar. Is there any log to see if it is stuck and why it is stuck? I heard flash drives are faster the usual HDD. But my hp v220w pen drive seems to be 100 times slower than my sata HDD.
[18:19] <milen8204> Hello all how can I add a folder in menu "Place" on gnome 3 ?
[18:19] <shade34321> wilee-nilee: thanks anyways
[18:19] <theadmin> Moonlightning: If you already have other networks there, maybe. But that is fine for an initial config.
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> mooser: check the awn settings and docs/guides/homepage you add the widgit to the awn dock
[18:20] <Moonlightning> theadmin: ah, it doesn't exist yet. Okay…
[18:20] <mooser> Its not applets menu in AWN?
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, Thanks I was not sure in regards to the questions by shade34321
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> mooser: you are looking at awn right now.. im not... so you tell me..  experiment..
[18:21] <mynickname> if I am port forwarding for a file sharing program, should I use iptables or is there not a security risk?
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> mynickname: do you use a router
[18:21] <zykotick9> bogor: if you are using USB - it's gonna be VERY slow compared to IDE/SATA HDs...
[18:21] <mynickname> yes
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> mynickname: your router is forwarding ports to the pc?
[18:22] <mynickname> yes
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> so what are you going to use iptables for? ;0'
[18:22] <Moonlightning> theadmin: invalid-argument from the last part
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> mynickname: then its fine, the router is doing the firewalling for you
[18:22] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, \oneiric
[18:22] <deadmund> mynickname: You need to configure the router.  Not the PC that is running the service
[18:22] <theadmin> Moonlightning: Oh, huh. Odd. That normally worked for me.
[18:22] <nathanel1> does anyone know what is the username access for the dconf settings of the lock screen (to change the wallpaper)?
[18:23] <Moonlightning> > ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument
[18:23] <Moonlightning> this twice ^
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: With nautilus as the active window, move the mouse to the global menu
[18:23] <theadmin> Moonlightning: I'm not into CLI-based network configs though. You might want to install wicd -- it has a nifty CLI-based configuration tool (wicd-curses)
[18:23] <bogor> zykoticks9, Does pen drive connect other way or are you saying pen drives are slow since they connect via usb ?
[18:23] <sam1967> anyone heard about synthetic telepathy ?
[18:23] <theadmin> Moonlightning: But, it doesn't enjoy networkmanager so it'll remove that during the install (if you use APT, that is)
[18:23] <Moonlightning> Okay, thanks…
[18:23] <zykotick9> !tab > bogor
[18:23] <bogor> ok
[18:23] <zykotick9> bogor: USB is a slow interface
[18:23] <DJones> sam1967: Thats not an ubuntu support question
[18:24] <Moonlightning> …argh. Can't install anything because I don't have a connection.
[18:24]  * Moonlightning facehoofs
[18:24] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, and then ? :Д
[18:24] <theadmin> Moonlightning: Oh... Rats, sorry, my bad.
[18:24] <mynickname> I have configured the router to forward a port. When the program is not using this port, is it still open and is there a risk?
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: or you should be able to drag to the left panel
[18:25] <Moonlightning> The menu seems to be working again anyway, though (I rebooted), so… XD
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> mynickname: if no service is listening to the port.. nothings going to happen
[18:25] <theadmin> mynickname: There's no risk in "open" ports, you're misunderstanding the concept.
[18:25] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, ok I will try thanks
[18:26] <bogor> zykotick9, so all pen drives are slow ? BTW tab completion is not working for me. Should i install any package ?
[18:26] <Dr_Willis> bogor:  usb3 pendrives exist now
[18:26] <zykotick9> bogor: i meant in IRC (you got my nic right this time).  Yes all USB drives will be slow compared to IDE/SATA (maybe not with USB3), very slow.
[18:27] <zykotick9> bogor: bash-completion installed?  for bash.
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> i found ubuntu installed to a usb to be useable.. at least
[18:27] <bogor> I will install bash-completion. Thanks
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> better then a live cd
[18:28] <Moonlightning> Argh. As far as I can tell from what I can see of the menu, I'm connected…and yet, I get network-unreachable from anything. >.<
[18:28] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Heh, so I'm not the only one who experimented with OSes on a USB drive
[18:29] <Moonlightning> …oh, the key I entered is wrong. Derp. 9_6
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Moonlightning: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[18:29] <Moonlightning> Nope.
[18:30] <Moonlightning> > connect: Network is unreachable
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Moonlightning: can you ping your routers internal IP?
[18:30] <Moonlightning> Ahhh, I'm not sure what that is…just redid the setup here…uhh, hang on…
[18:31] <bogor> zykotick9: bash-completion is awesome. Thanks
[18:31] <Moonlightning> Here we are.
[18:31] <Moonlightning> And, no, I can't.
[18:31] <Plumblum> could somone help me with phpmyadmin ?
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> Moonlightning: does the interface have an IP via DHCP
[18:31] <Plumblum> the package is installed and connected to the sql server
[18:32] <Plumblum> but i cant axcess it
[18:32] <Moonlightning> …no, it doesn't.
[18:32] <Moonlightning> Invalid key. DERP!!
[18:32] <Moonlightning> sorry *facehoofs at self*
[18:32] <Moonlightning> I'll get this thing eventually!
[18:33] <bogor> The usb pen drive is new. But the PC is old so slow. I have a newer laptop. Will try making a large io like apt-get upgrade after this installation get over to see if there it is more usable.
[18:33] <bogor> Does ubuntu installer have a log ?
[18:33] <wrona> so is maybe that place can ask for some support about ubuntu ?
[18:33] <theadmin> wrona: This is the place.
[18:34] <Moonlightning> !metaquestion | wrona
[18:34] <wrona> i am fresh user Pawel is my name and quite stupid about systems have just two question about
[18:34] <Moonlightning> Questions? Awesome. Let's hear 'em!
[18:35] <theadmin> wrona: Just ask your questions.
[18:37] <Moonlightning> …argh…
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> ask them in the form of a hiaku for bonus points...
[18:38] <wrona> theadmin today is sunday no need to be rough so much or need :)  so. First is can I have cube 3d if I have intel integrated card, and second is whether is possible that when watching movies on web , screen is switching off , and if can be done that during watching movie on the web is not turning off ?
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: that'd be badass
[18:38] <Moonlightning> This keeps rejecting the network key, but it's working fine on this Mac…
[18:38] <theadmin> wrona: You can set it to not turn off at all, that'd be in power management settings. As for the cube thing, I think that doesn't work with recent Ubuntu releases.
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> wrona: the cube is worth forgetting.. it has issues with unity
[18:39] <wrona> ok thank you
[18:39] <mooser> theadmin:  Gnome-MEnu shows "Installed" in Software Center. how do I run it.
[18:39] <satyanash> Hi All! How can I have the "New Login" feature provided by xscreensaver for xdm instead of gdm? I know xscreensaver calls gdmflexiserver, but since I do not want to use gdm, what would I call?
[18:39] <mooser> Dr_Willis:  THis dock looks like apple dock.
[18:39] <theadmin> mooser: You want "gnome-panel", not "gnome-menu"
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> wrona: askubuntu.com had some info on disabling the blanking for movies
[18:39] <Moonlightning> mooser: ooh…how did you do that? :3
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> !dock | Moonlightning
[18:40] <mooser> theadmin: Sorry Gnome-Panel . may mistake .. Gnome-Panel shows installed
[18:40] <Moonlightning> ah, okay, thanks ^^
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: My Ubuntu system runs slowly, Its a new install, Help me please   ;)
[18:40] <wrona> i found ubumatic but is not working with this, any way thank U guys and have a good sunday :)
[18:40] <theadmin> mooser: Okay, great, now log out, click the gear icon, choose "GNOME Fallback" from the list and log in
[18:40] <mooser> ok
[18:41] <satyanash> Does anyone have any idea?
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> should i mention that in 12.0 - the fallbackmode is.. well gone i think.. )
[18:41] <satyanash> I think gdm starts a new xserver when you click New Login, right?
[18:41] <bogor> This may not be dir5ectly ubuntu related. But if usb is slow, what portable storage techology provides near or greater HDD speeds ?
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> wrona: why is that necessary? You can do all that stuff yorself
[18:41] <pranavk> i am kindda new to rss feeds, i want to fetch all the data from the rss feeds but currently i am shown only top 30 entries (sorted by date), but i want all 112 entries. is there any way out i can get those  ?
[18:42] <zykotick9> bogor: esata would be one option
[18:42] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Nuh-uh, you install the gnome-panel package and you get that. It's not GNOME2, it's GNOME3 which "looks" and acts like gnome2
[18:42] <zykotick9> bogor: it makes me cry that i have to reboot to use esata on my mother board :(.. so i don't really get to use it.
[18:42] <Kircle> I'm updating to 64bit precise from 32. When booting the disc will it give me the option to leave me home folder alone?
[18:43] <bogor> zykotick9: yeah i saw there is a esata port in my laptop. I will research. Thanks.
[18:43] <zykotick9> bogor: i'm sure regular USB is your best bet - but it's slow... live with it ;)  it's handy
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Kircle: you will need to reinstall
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Kircle: its not really an upgrade
[18:44] <mauk> q
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> esata never had time to take off. ;(
[18:44] <mynickname> thanks, guys
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> i never got esata working right.. not it seems obsolete
[18:44] <bogor> zykotick9: i like usb. b'cos it is small and looks cool and comes in sufficent large capacity.
[18:45] <hamdi1984> I upgraded ubuntu from 10.10 to 11.04 then 11.10 to 12.04 LTS finally, and it seems like mate is not working properly (especially with compiz) any solutions ?
[18:45] <bogor> zykotick9: just that it performance is not so good. I think situation will improve wth time. Maybe i need to wait.
[18:45] <zykotick9> bogor: ya, nothing wrong with running from usb.  i personally just find it extremely slow for some things, and thus not sufficently fast (perhaps i'm spoiled by ssd os drive ;)
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> hamdi1984: we cant support 'mate' here
[18:46] <mooser> Hello again
[18:46] <mooser> There wasn't any option called "GNOME FALLBACK" I chose GNOME CLASSIC
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> hamdi1984: and it may be time for a clean install..
[18:47] <hamdi1984> thnx Dr_Willis. How can I at least get my classic gnome desktop with ubuntu 12.04 ?
[18:47] <tizbac> zykotick9, still faster than windows :P , i have too an ssd and when i boot a machine with hdds i start freaking out , but the i see windows: "wtf is that , 10 mins to boot ..."
[18:47] <mooser> hamdi install GNOME-PANEL
[18:47] <Dr_Willis> hamdi1984: install gnome-panel and select it at login
[18:47] <mooser> I just did
[18:47] <theadmin> mooser: Well that's the one
[18:47] <mooser> theadmin this is what i just wanted thank you. But i really miss the DASH Serach!
[18:47] <hamdi1984> thnx a lot Dr_Willis. I should try that.
[18:48] <theadmin> mooser: Heh can't have both
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> but fallback may go away  in the next few releases...
[18:48] <zykotick9> tizbac: i personally don't see the big deal about "boot times", but i never reboot 99.957% uptime since may 19
[18:48] <theadmin> mooser: Try installing Launchy. It provides very similar functionality.
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> stick with unity, old gnome is time to move on
[18:48] <mooser> theadmin and can I use Compiz in GNOME CLASSIC?
[18:49] <theadmin> mooser: You should be able to, yes.
[18:49] <mooser> shall i install it again or its already installed? cause i had it in other side
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> 'in other side' ?
[18:50] <mooser> :( No items match "Launchy" in Software Store
[18:51] <theadmin> mooser: It's not in the store, see http://launchy.net (they provide an ubuntu package)
[18:51] <Moonlightning> Well, anyway…
[18:51] <xangua> software center is called now software store¿
[18:52] <theadmin> xangua: Nope, we just have someone calling stuff weird names.
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> next will be ubuntu play app market....
[18:52] <Moonlightning> output of `lspci | grep -i VGA`:
[18:52] <Moonlightning> 0000:00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go5200] (rev a1)
[18:52] <theadmin> xangua: Probably using a localized Ubuntu
[18:53] <killer> ubuntu 11.04 is supported till october (exact  date)?
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> !11.04
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. that factid dont say. ;()
[18:54] <Daekdroom> !eol
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> most do say
[18:54] <Daekdroom> That first link in !eol does say
[18:55] <Daekdroom> (But yeah, it'd be better if the factoid did)
[18:55] <Moonlightning> …okay, let's go /way/ back. XD
[18:55] <Moonlightning> I think I have outdated or wrong drivers for my system. How can I find and install the correct ones, preferably using just the CLI? (PowerBook G4 | Ubuntu 12.04)
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> Moonlightning: thr nvidia-current package works for all my nvidia mahcines
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> or see what jockey-text suggests
[18:57] <Moonlightning> Dr_Willis: what was the command again?
[18:57] <i7c> hi, i would like to use disk encryption on my ubuntu server, but i dont like the fact that it unmounts /home when no one is logged in to the system. how can i change that?
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> jockey-text --help     perhaps
[18:58] <Dr_Willis> or sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[19:00] <Moonlightning> Dr_Willis: unavailable-package error
[19:00] <Seednode> Does anyone know how to fix that annoying white flash when switching workspaces with Desktop Cube?
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> Moonlightning: what ubuntu release?
[19:00] <xangua> Seednode: are you using unity¿
[19:00] <Moonlightning> 12.04-powerpc?
[19:01] <Seednode> No, I'm not.
[19:01] <Seednode> Xubuntu.
[19:01] <Seednode> Does Unity not have that issue?
[19:01] <bekks> xubuntu runs on powerpc, too.
[19:01] <Umo111> Anyone know how run ubuntu from USB with a GTX 550 ti?
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> Moonlightning: may not be a powerpc package..
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> Umo111: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> Umo111: you can do a full install to usb, same as you would a real hard drive
[19:02] <Seednode> xangua: Does that flash not happen in Unity?
[19:02] <Guest22821> Hi, I'm trying to repair a system that lost power during an upgrade; I've booted form a live stick and chrooted to the hard drive but am seeing problems because things can't access /dev or /proc
[19:02] <Moonlightning> Dr_Willis: >.<
[19:02] <Umo111> OK il try that thanks
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> Moonlightning: i gave up on powerpc.. ;) my imac was just a ssh terminal for ages
[19:03] <Moonlightning> Yeah…I mostly use the tty's anyway…
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> Moonlightning: even those were messee up on m y imac
[19:04] <astropirate> Hello all. I have connected a second monitor but it is not recieving any signal. How can I diagnose this?
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> astropirate: video chipset? what drivers?
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> astropirate: it  was plugged in when you booted up?
[19:04] <astropirate> gtx 670 nvidia propitory driver that comes iwth ubuntu
[19:04] <astropirate> no it wasnt
[19:05] <astropirate> well
[19:05] <astropirate> it was pluged in
[19:05] <FloodBot1> astropirate: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> astropirate: seen that confuse the nvidia cards on some machines
[19:05] <astropirate> Ohh I should reboot then?
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> plug in, power on, reboot, try nvidia-settings tool
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> just to eliminate any potential issues
[19:06] <astropirate> Ahh the nvidia-setting did it
[19:06] <astropirate> i wasn't aware I had to do that. thanks Dr_Willis
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> some times it dosent. ;)
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> had issues with older cards needing things in at power up. or the card turnrd off the port
[19:07] <astropirate> Dr_Willis, hmm although, my mouse cursor does "stick" on the launch panel on the second montir which makes mouse transition between monitors un-smoth
[19:07] <jason__> Hi I have a new install of ubuntu 12.04 and tried the unity desktop found in buggy, thunderbird crashed on start firefox slow and greyed out, gone over to using gnome classic
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> dual monitors? theres a sticky edge feature
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> move the mouse fast...
[19:08] <astropirate> So its a feature not a bug? :p
[19:08] <mooser> Dr_Willis: I found something like Ubuntu Dash Search for GNOME called "bolt" > https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/330/bolt/ . "But it tells me You do not appear to have an up to date version of GNOME3. You won't be able to install extensions from here. See the about page for more information."
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> astropirate:  yes. to make window moveing easier
[19:08] <astropirate> sounds good. thanks A LOT Dr_Willis
[19:09] <trism> mooser: extensions.gnome.org is for gnome-shell not gnome-panel
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> mooser: i use unity. not gnome-shell
[19:09] <devilz> i have dell 5520 and install complete ubuntu 12.04 alongside windows
[19:09] <tunsa> is there any msn clientthat comes with latest ubuntu
[19:09] <devilz> my wifi card is 08:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation Device 4365 (rev 01)
[19:09] <devilz> 	Subsystem: Dell Device 0016
[19:09] <devilz> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11
[19:09] <devilz> 	Memory at c1500000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32K]
[19:09] <devilz> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> !im | tunsa
[19:09] <Moonlightning> !flood | devilz
[19:10] <devilz> can anyone tell me how to get drivers for that?
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> tunsa: amsam emesene, pidgin
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | devilz
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> tunsa: amsn   sorry
[19:11] <Moonlightning> So, if there's no powerpc package with the drivers…
[19:11] <Moonlightning> Am I just out of luck?
[19:11] <devilz> ActionParsnip : thanks for link. I try this and tell u :D
[19:13] <Nintendoo64> I'm not sure how much RAM I have. I have a 32bit installation and system monitor says I currently have 3.9GB. I've booted into 64bit ubuntu via liveCD and system monitor stills says I have 3.9GB. Is this reading accurate?
[19:15] <deadmund> Nintendoo64: you don't think you have 3.9 / 4Gb ?
[19:16] <deadmund> Nintendoo64: you there?
[19:17] <Moonlightning> …no, wait, here it is: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/powerpc/nvidia-current
[19:18] <diminoten> it's the little things... like right now
[19:18] <diminoten> I can't change my desktop background
[19:18] <diminoten> why would that sort of thing even break?
[19:20] <sebastorama> is there a way to resize a partition "on the fly" on linux?
[19:20] <ender__> hola
[19:20] <sebastorama> I mean.. without the need to do it from a live cd for instance..
[19:20] <deadmund> sebastorama: yes but not the root partition or any partition that is mounted
[19:20] <ender__> hola
[19:21] <ender__> hola
[19:21] <ender__> hola
[19:21] <ender__> hola
[19:21] <FloodBot1> ender__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:21] <deadmund> ender__: yeah, hi
[19:21] <Moonlightning> !es | ender__
[19:21] <Moonlightning> …wait, how is that possible?
[19:21] <mooser> trims no version for gnome-panel ?
[19:22] <sebastorama> deadmund, hum.. on OS X, disk utility can do this... It may dismount the partition and do it's magick.. bcoz the system freezes for a while while doin'g it :D
[19:22] <Moonlightning> What's up with the /modes/ on this network? 6_9
[19:22] <astropirate> My sounds keeps repeating for 1-2 seconds like a broken CD. It plays sounds fine for a minut or so but it keeps doing this. How can I fix this?
[19:22] <sebastorama> deadmund, but thanks anyway
[19:22] <Moonlightning> I've seen ChanServ set +o on the flood bots even though they're /already/ +o, and now /all three/ of the bots set -q ender__!*@*, one after another…
[19:22] <deadmund> sebastorama: yeah, there might be some crazy way using chroot.  IDK
[19:23] <mooser> I really miss the Dash Search from Unity here in gnome-panel
[19:24] <histo> mooser: gnome3 has search
[19:24] <sebastorama> deadmund, yeap.. who knows what apple do in order to keep users happy :D
[19:24] <deadmund> sebastorama: yeah
[19:24] <sebastorama> deadmund, but thanks for the help :D
[19:24] <mooser> histo I am not on gnome-shall this is just gnome-panel
[19:25] <mooser> aslo I am not even sure if i can update this gnome-pnel to gnome3 dunno
[19:26] <WeThePeople> how to download the max quality video using youtube-dl
[19:26] <mooser> !unity-manual
[19:26] <mooser> !unity-manuel
[19:26] <BluesKaj> !man unity
[19:26] <mooser> Where do I run installed programs or how do i do it in terminal
[19:26] <BluesKaj> hmm
[19:27] <Moonlightning> mooser: generally you can just type the name of the program
[19:27] <deadmund> mooser: sudo apt-get install <package-name>
[19:27] <BluesKaj> !unity
[19:27] <deadmund> mooser: what are you trying to install?
[19:27] <Moonlightning> …wait.
[19:27] <Moonlightning> Are we talking about /getting/ or /running/ programs?
[19:27] <deadmund> Oh!  I misread :P
[19:28] <Vlan> hello, someone experiencing low read/write rates w/ SSD drives even w/ AHCI enabled?
[19:28] <deadmund> mooser run them by name in the term
[19:28] <mooser> deadmund I am a Ubuntu Unity user. I am now installed gnome-panel cause i hated the unity launcher bar on left. But i really missing the unity DAsh serach
[19:29] <histo> mooser: pres your windows key
[19:29] <mooser> deamund like: run programname ?
[19:29] <deadmund> mooser: alt + f2    ?
[19:29] <histo> mooser: did you setup X with just gnome-panel launching?
[19:29] <mooser> what is X?
[19:30] <BluesKaj> !X
[19:30] <mooser> i just installed gnome-panel from Ubuntu unity Software Center
[19:30] <mooser> and logged in
[19:30] <histo> mooser: well is the unity panel still on the screen?
[19:31] <mooser> histo,  no. I am now in gnome classic. launcher panel is on the top left. drop down menu. just like how i wanted.
[19:31] <mooser> I still did not understand what is X
[19:31] <histo> mooser: okay well alt+f2 should get you a run dialog
[19:31] <WeThePeople> does anybody have youtube-dl installed
[19:31] <Vlan> someone with an SSD drive could do a "sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda1" for me?
[19:31] <mooser> Is it kind of Dash Search for Gnome Classic?
[19:31] <bekks> WeThePeople: Why?
[19:32] <bekks> Vlan: And you are expecting which result in particular?
[19:32] <ThinkT510> mooser: X is the graphical server
[19:32] <Moonlightning> FINALLY!
[19:32] <histo> mooser: no alt+f2 is a run dialog you can type a programs name in the there with tab completion
[19:32] <mooser> histo is it possible to use Dash Search in gnome?
[19:32] <Moonlightning> Got connected. /Sheesh./
[19:32] <WeThePeople> bekks, if i try to download the best video quailti using youtube-dl --max-quality (url) it comes back and says i need atleast one url..??
[19:33] <deadmund> mooser: There are other more modular solutions like gnome-do  that you might wanna look at too
[19:33] <Vlan> bekks: i'm only getting half the speed declared by the manufactor, i'd like to see if i'm the only one with this problem
[19:33] <histo> mooser: is there a particular part of the dash you want? there are many apps that will accomplish certain parts of it.
[19:34] <bekks> Vlan: And getting our output will not help you at all on solving your issue :)
[19:34] <bekks> Vlan: I have a SSD, and I am perfectly happy with it.
[19:35] <Moonlightning> I'm getting a package-not-available error from trying to install nvidia-current on a powerpc system, but the website has a page for the package…
[19:35] <Vlan> bekks: ok but if you say that you're running at 100 mb/s probably there's nothing i can do about it as well...
[19:35] <Darkenvy> What are the choices for display managers? Gnome, Unity, KDE, ????, what else?
[19:35] <mooser> can alt+f2 also do search the programs while i am typing? or I have to write the complete name to run a program?
[19:35] <Troy^> Darkenvy: LXCE, XFCE
[19:35] <Darkenvy> is that everything?
[19:35] <ThinkT510> Darkenvy: those are desktop environments, not display managers
[19:35] <histo> mooser: yes it will search you can hit tab to complete the name
[19:35] <Troy^> Darkenvy: LXDE sorry,
[19:35] <morteza> hi
[19:35] <bekks> Vlan: I am not running at SATA HDD speed :) I am meeting the specifications of the manufacturer.
[19:36] <morteza> I installed ubuntu in my netbook
[19:36] <Darkenvy> thats what I said desktop environments :P
[19:36] <Rallias> What are my options for volume controls on tint2?
[19:36] <morteza> but when I start it , my monitor will be turn off
[19:36] <histo> mooser: also take a look at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/122437/how-to-access-applications-menu-in-ubuntu-unity-desktop  to get a gnome applications menu in unity
[19:36] <Troy^> Darkenvy: you could pretty much use whatever display manger you wanted or environment
[19:36] <morteza> what is this? crash? what?
[19:36] <Darkenvy> one last question: alternatives to nautilus? I am unable to drag and drop
[19:37] <histo> Darkenvy: thunar is a good one
[19:37] <ProtekNickz> Hi all got a sticky situation, i was going through my GPG keys and deleted the launchpad. one's for ubuntu 12.04, any one know how i re add it, or where it's located if still on the computer ?
[19:37] <histo> Darkenvy: there is also roxbox pcmanfm a ton of file managers
[19:37] <ThinkT510> Darkenvy: thunar, pcmanfm
[19:37] <mooser> well why do I need Gnome Do when there is already a tool in Alt+F2
[19:37] <mooser> God I loved Linux!
[19:38] <Darkenvy> thanks guys!
[19:38] <Rallias> ProtekNickz, apt-cache search ubuntu keys
[19:38] <mooser> Guys sorry about my dump questions. This is my 3th day on Linux and I just loved it...
[19:38] <histo> mooser: you could also type a app name in a terminal and use tab to complete the name
[19:38] <Darkenvy> Man I love Linux!
[19:38] <ProtekNickz> k
[19:38] <deadmund> mooser: gnome-do also looks for files and can index a lot more information like contents of emails, recent pidgin conversations, web pages, and similar
[19:38] <Troy^> lol linux is great minus games
[19:38] <deadmund> mooser: alt+f2 is ONLY programs
[19:38] <Dice-Man> hello all people
[19:39] <mooser> deadmund,  now it makes sense.. downloaded... let me try
[19:39] <Dice-Man> how to load a keyboard layout from the commande line ?
[19:39] <deadmund> mooser: have fun.
[19:39] <Moonlightning> I'm getting a package-not-available error from trying to install nvidia-current on a powerpc system, but the website has a page for the package…
[19:39] <BenBE> Hy, anyone around who could package a new version of php-geshi for Ubuntu?
[19:39] <islandmonkey> Troy^: The minus games part will all change when Steam arrives
[19:39] <Troy^> islandmonkey: there is really not going to be that many games though
[19:40] <mobile> help
[19:40] <BenBE> read man ...
[19:40] <islandmonkey> mobile: Help on what?
[19:40] <islandmonkey> Please do not ask to ask
[19:40] <mobile> sorry i was trying to invoke my irc client help
[19:41] <islandmonkey> Oh sorry :)
[19:41] <WeThePeople> lol, i have to type -i to ignore an url error to get it to work
[19:41] <islandmonkey> Troy^: Well we'll have to see
[19:42] <Rallias> Troy^ There's supposed to be a few good games for release.. not many, but the ones that do are good.
[19:45] <Troy^> islandmonkey and Rallias: well LFD2 seems to be the first port. Well i own that game and it ain't any different from the first one and quite boring
[19:46] <Snow-Man> has anyone got bonding & VLANs working, from a cold boot, on 12.04?
[19:46] <test_> hello
[19:47] <test_> Linux question: how can it be that: 1.ping works 2. arping does not work.
[19:47] <BenBE> test_: You're not root.
[19:48] <deadmund> test_: arping only works local network
[19:48] <BenBE> test_: Alternative: You card can't do promiscious.
[19:48] <bogor> I am trying to setup my ubuntu pc1 as a wireless hostspot. pc1 has wireless network card and wired ethernet connection. It is connected to internet via wired connection.
[19:48] <deadmund> bogor: that is not a question
[19:49] <bogor> i clicked on use hotspot, but it keeps disappearing.
[19:49] <gmachine_24> My install of Ubuntu 11.04 won't boot; end up with the initram error, etc. From a "Live" CD, how can I repair/restore the Grub files?
[19:49] <Rallias> Troy^, If rumors are to believed, HL3 is a part of the steam release on linux aswell
[19:50] <bogor> gmachine_24: 11.04 is old , try 12.04
[19:50] <Troy^> Rallias: well that will be awesome then. HL2 episodes were pretty decent
[19:50] <theghost> can you set up a service on ubuntu where one computer takes control of all of them like the master the domain
[19:50] <mooser> what is the short key to run gnome-do ?
[19:50] <islandmonkey> gmachine_24: Better hurry up, support for 11.04 is running out thick and fast
[19:50] <gmachine_24> I know I can try 12.04; that is not the point. I need to fix the installation.
[19:51] <islandmonkey> gmachine_24: Why can't you just grab another CD (or wipe the USB on) and place 12.04 on it?
[19:51] <TheMiner> theghost you can setup a cluster of machines and manage them from one spot
[19:52] <theghost> what would i need to set up a cluster
[19:52] <TheMiner> If you only have a few machines I would recommend something like webmin
[19:52] <Rallias> theghost, what type of cluster?
[19:52] <TheMiner> There are some pretty straight forward cluster distro's that you could use
[19:53] <nick_cannon> Hey guys, How can I tell what my video card is?
[19:53] <TheMiner> The cluster would allow you to pool resources
[19:53] <savio> lspci nick_cannon
[19:53] <theghost> a type of cluster so i can manage multiple machines from one point
[19:53] <devilz> how can i find drivers for 14e4:4365 in zip format ?
[19:53] <lwizardl> if I have a deb installer how can i autohave it also grab any required Dependencies ?
[19:53] <TheMiner> what are the different machines going to be doing theghost?
[19:53] <gmachine_24> Because I don't want to.
[19:53] <Rallias> lwizardl, "dpkg -i $packagename && apt-get -f install"
[19:54] <islandmonkey> gmachine_24: It is the easiest way to do it
[19:54] <lwizardl> Rallias, thanks
[19:54] <mytoz_> question: I'm upgrading Ubuntu and now it seems X (or my WM, the default one) doesn't want to render any windows etc. only my cursor is visible. can I somehow reload X without killing all the running programs, and especially the upgrade process?
[19:54] <mytoz_> or is there something else I can do?
[19:55] <deadmund> mytoz_: ctrl + alt + F2,  then log in and kill X or Xorg and it should restart itself
[19:55] <mytoz_> deadmund: the upgrade process as well? won't that break the current installations etc?
[19:55] <TheMiner> ctrl+alt+backspace
[19:55] <histo> mytoz_: you can hit ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a tty and ctrl+alt+F7 should bring you back to X.  In the tty you can see if the upgrade process is still working with top
[19:55] <theghost> basiclly i want one machine as like the master and managing lets say 10 pcs and i can manage them 10 pcs from the master pc
[19:55] <TheMiner> or cntrl-alt-f7
[19:55] <deadmund> mytoz_: What I described will not effect the upgrade process or any packages
[19:55] <histo> theghost: manage what?
[19:56] <histo> theghost: upgrades?
[19:56] <TheMiner> managing what?
[19:56] <mytoz_> deadmund: ah cool
[19:56] <TheMiner> are they going to be running webservers?
[19:56] <deadmund> mytoz_: sure
[19:56] <TheMiner> ftp servers?
[19:56] <theghost> yes
[19:56] <mustafa> how to open firefox on local machine bu using ssh?
[19:56] <TheMiner> then just use Webmin
[19:56] <bekks> theghost: "yes" to what?
[19:56] <bekks> webmin? NO.
[19:56] <bekks> DONT use it.
[19:56] <mustafa> how to open firefox on local machine by* using ssh?
[19:57] <bekks> Use ssh and administer your servers properly. Webmin introduces various security wholes.
[19:57] <ech0dish> whats wrong with webmin?
[19:57] <TheMiner> He can run upgrades, start/restart servers etc all with Webmins cute GUI interface
[19:57] <bekks> ech0dish: Wrong question. "Whats not wrong with webmin?"
[19:57] <Rallias> bekks if properly configured, nothing's wrong with webmin
[19:57] <bekks> Webmin is the worst "GUI", from a security point of view.
[19:57] <UnknownFork> Hello, I have had Xubuntu 12.04 installed on my Toshiba Mini NB505-N508BL for over 3 months. The touchpad recently stopped working on it. It has stopped working before, but has started working again after a reboot. Whenever I reboot it now it still doesn't work. Help?
[19:57] <TheMiner> I would agree that someone with experience should just be using ssh
[19:57] <histo> mustafa: ssh -X to the host then firefox
[19:57] <bekks> Rallias: Almost everything is wrong with webmin, because it is a secuity whole by design.
[19:58] <TheMiner> UnknownFork sounds like a hardware issue
[19:58] <histo> mustafa: unless you want to open firefox locally
[19:58] <Rallias> bekks that's why I said "if configured properly"
[19:58] <Rallias> as in, only listen on localhost.
[19:58] <UnknownFork> TheMiner, maybe a driver issue
[19:58] <TheMiner> You can lock Webmin down pretty tight
[19:58] <ech0dish> webmin helped me get started up when i was a teenager.. good for learning but once you've learned i agree it's more proper to use ssh for everything.
[19:58] <mytoz_> deadmund: seems X didn't really start again after I softkilled it
[19:58] <mustafa> histo I tried but I get "No protocol specified Error: cannot open display: :0"
[19:59] <UnknownFork> I will run an operating system via live cd to see if it is a hardware issue
[19:59] <histo> mustafa: are you ssh'd from a windows box to a linux box?
[19:59] <TheMiner> holy hell I am old,...Webmin was a LONG way from being around when I was a teenager
[19:59] <Rallias> Webmin by default is just as insecure as any web administration panel.
[19:59] <histo> Do not recomend webmin in here it's not supported
[19:59] <TheMiner> Hell OpenSSH is unsecure until you get it setup properly
[19:59] <deadmund> mytoz_: startx  from the cli
[19:59] <mytoz_> deadmund: ah okay
[20:00] <bekks> theghost: Not nearly insecure as webmin by default.
[20:00] <histo> !webmin | Rallias bekks
[20:00] <Darkenvy> #gnome
[20:00] <bekks> histo: I know. I am not suggesting using it.
[20:00] <Rallias> bekks oh, and what's one that's more secure than webmin?
[20:00] <TheMiner> ubottu, hence the reason you download the source and compile it yourself
[20:00] <duckxx> can anyone point me to a place on how to specify ip ranges.. i dont understand the /24 /15 endings on ips
[20:00] <theghost> theminer: thanks
[20:00] <bekks> Rallias: ssh.
[20:00] <mustafa> histo No. linux to linux
[20:00] <duckxx> i want to ban all of china
[20:01] <duckxx> from going to my server
[20:01] <Rallias> By default, just as insecure.
[20:01] <histo> mustafa: do you have X running on the machine you are using to ssh to the host on?
[20:01] <Rallias> Find a user with sudo access, you've compromised the system.
[20:01] <duckxx> hell i want to ban the entire eastern countries
[20:01] <TheMiner> duckxx good luck
[20:01] <duckxx> lol
[20:01] <bekks> Rallias: Nope. BY default, webmin doesnt use SSL, while ssh is using a secured connection.
[20:01] <histo> mustafa: to forward X applications via ssh you need to have a local X instance running then you can ssh -X host   once in you can launch any X based applicaiton on the host and it will forward it to the local machine.
[20:02] <Rallias> bekks how have YOU installed webmin in a way that doesn't use SSL? The deb package they provide always enables it.
[20:02] <foul_owl> Hello. I am having a problem with OpenGL. I have an Nvidia GeForce 6600 video card that does not seem to have OpenGL acceleration enabled. Running glxgears gives me a black windowed gtk window. This problem occurred with the default nouveau drivers for 12.04, and again when I uninstalled nouveau and installed the latest Nvidia drivers from the Nvidia driver ppa (304.37) Trying to run other OpenGL apps (such as openarena) produces a black screen 
[20:02] <bekks> Rallias: The last time I've used webmin is 15y ago. Actually, I am wondering why it isnt prosecuted to use it nowadays.
[20:03] <Rallias> bekks because it isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be.
[20:03] <duckxx> bekks, so wat do u use now ?
[20:03] <mustafa> histo I have X on running machine
[20:03] <bekks> Rallias: Actually it is. Just take a look at the security fixes.
[20:03] <bekks> duckxx: ssh.
[20:03] <histo> mustafa: are you trying to launch firefox ont eh host machine you are connected to and have it open on the local machine?  Is that the goal here?
[20:04] <duckxx> i cant wrap my head around the /8 /24 /25 wildcard ip ranges.. anyone care to explain
[20:04] <sam101> can use ssh to manage ur website of the server
[20:04] <duckxx> ?
[20:04] <mustafa> histo exactly
[20:04] <bekks> sam101: Sure.
[20:04] <TheMiner> yeah
[20:04] <Rallias> duckspeaker, /8: x.*.*.*, /16: x.x.*.*, /24: x.x.x.*
[20:04] <gunarm> when I just went to Disk Utility and clicked Check/Repair array on my RAID volume, it started this long repair process.  Is there any way to tell what the errors are that it's fixing?  I just set the array up like yesterday
[20:04] <TheMiner> via SSH you can do anything on the remote machine that you could do on your local machine
[20:04] <stephenmac7> Hey, I was wondering if it was possible to have all incoming network traffic go through a firewall on an ubuntu server?
[20:04] <stephenmac7> (For a home network, not just the server.)
[20:05] <histo> mustafa: when you connect to that machine make sure you use the -X option with ssh. so ssh -X whatever.ip.address    then it will allow forwarding of X applications
[20:05] <foul_owl> stephenmac7: look into iptables
[20:05] <Rallias> duckspeaker, just think of IP addresses as base-256 and netblocks as a chunk of it in base 2
[20:05] <histo> stephenmac7: yes
[20:05] <mustafa> I tried but not working
[20:05] <TheMiner> stephenmac you just need to have your router forward everything through your machine
[20:05] <TheMiner> iptables get complicated pretty quick though
[20:05] <mustafa> histo  I tried but not working
[20:05] <stephenmac7> TheMiner: How do you do that? (I have linksys)
[20:05] <histo> mustafa: please pastebin the commands you are trying along with the connection string like ssh -X someserver
[20:06] <mustafa> histo ssh -X server
[20:06] <openyost> Hi all!  I'm hoping someone can help out with this fun I'm having.  Earlier this week, my comp was reporting 100% usage of my hard drive with the home folder being the culprit.  When I du -h in my home folder the sum of the folders does not equal the total sum of files (http://pastebin.com/QfS5hDhJ)  I ran fsck at boot and it fixed it. But now it has happened again with the exact same issue.  The file usage should be about 20% at
[20:06] <openyost>  most.  Any ideas on how to fix this?  (if it helps to know, this is my mythtv box)
[20:06] <mustafa> histo ssh -X a.machine.at.server
[20:07] <mustafa> histo firefox www.google.com
[20:07] <mustafa> that is all
[20:08] <gunarm> openyost, i dont know what your issue is but also check out the GUI utility baobab to graph disk usage, and sometimes hard/soft links can confuse disk measurements
[20:08] <mytoz_> interesting. when I run startx, it just repeatedly prints out "no protocol specified"
[20:09] <openyost> gunarm I can't even get x to start right now because of the full disk
[20:09] <histo> !paste | mustafa
[20:09] <histo> mustafa: and are you logged into the Desktop on the local machine?
[20:09] <mustafa> histo yes
[20:09] <histo> mustafa: you can't do this through  tty as I said earlier X needs to be running
[20:10] <histo> mustafa: Does the other machine have xauth installed?
[20:10] <foul_owl> openyost: Do you have backups?
[20:10] <foul_owl> openyost: I don't know off the top of my head what could cause this, but in case of catastrophic hard drive failure, be absolutely sure to have full backups
[20:11] <mustafa> histo how to sure that?
[20:11] <histo> mustafa: dpkg -l | grep xauth
[20:11] <openyost> foul_owl not of recent changes.  Do you think it's software or hardware.  It's such a weird hardware problem
[20:11] <foul_owl> openyost: Are you getting any SMART errors?
[20:12] <foul_owl> openyost: (I have also heard that SMART isn't that great of a metric as hard drive mfgs try and downplay SMART errors to prevent premptive RMAs)
[20:12] <openyost> foul_owl when I ran disk utility, it had a grey icon, saying it wasn't communicating
[20:12] <mustafa> histo installed
[20:12] <Rallias> openyost, is the power cable to the hard drive fully inserted?
[20:13] <foul_owl> http://www.linuxjournal.com/magazine/monitoring-hard-disks-smart
[20:13] <openyost> Rallias, it's internal and yes :/
[20:13] <histo> mustafa: okay then it should work
[20:13] <UnknownFork> Hello, I have had Xubuntu 12.04 installed on my Toshiba Mini NB505-N508BL for over 3 months. The touchpad recently stopped working on it. It has stopped working before, but has started working again after a reboot. Whenever I reboot it now it still doesn't work. I have just booted Xubuntu 12.04 from the CD and the touchpad works perfectly. Help?
[20:13] <mustafa> histo but not
[20:14] <Rallias> openyost, have you tried rebooting?
[20:14] <mustafa> histo how to check  X running properly on the machine I ssh'd?
[20:14] <foul_owl> It is true that links can cause disk space usage confusion, but filesystem errors make me cringe
[20:14] <foul_owl> Thus, the backup recommendation
[20:14] <openyost> Rallias, it worked the first time but not the last 5 times.
[20:15] <histo> mustafa: X doesn't need to be running on the machine you are ssh'd into.  make sure the /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the remote machine has "X11Forwarding  yes"
[20:15] <openyost> and i'm doing fsck each boot
[20:15] <Rallias> openyost At this point, get a ubuntu livecd burnt and use it to back up precious's
[20:15] <histo> mustafa: if not change it from no to yes and restart sshd
[20:15] <openyost> Rallias, I think i might try to clonezilla it to a virtual machine and fsck it there.  :)
[20:16] <jony> somebody pls tell me how to remove symlink
[20:16] <Rallias> openyost, how big a hard disk?
[20:16] <mustafa> histo exactly it is  X11Forwarding yes
[20:16] <bekks> openyost: clonezilla will not convert anything to a vm.
[20:16] <histo> mustafa: also make sure you are using -X not -x
[20:16] <jony> i forgot to save another friend advice
[20:16] <mustafa> histo I am aware of it
[20:16] <openyost> bekks, I know  but i can liveiso clonezilla to a VM
[20:17] <Rallias> openyost if its 1 tb, it has a 31% (roughly) chance of failing to copy byte by byte.
[20:17] <openyost> Rallias, its 80
[20:17] <bekks> openyost: No.
[20:17] <openyost> bekks, Yes.  I've done it several times
[20:17] <W4sp> jony: ln -f <>
[20:17] <bekks> openyost: clonezilla isnt even capable of converting anything to a vm.
[20:17] <foul_owl> Rallias: wut
[20:17] <bekks> clonezilla can create images of a partition - thats all.
[20:17] <histo> mustafa: again can you please pastebin the output of the terminal starting from your ssh line
[20:18] <Rallias> foul_owl, modern HDD's have a 10^14 chance of unrecoverable unreadable sector.
[20:18] <Moonlightning> Why isn't /etc/group- world-readable?
[20:18] <Rallias> At 1 TB, that chance over copying the entire hard disk, is roughly 69.8% chance of completing successfully
[20:18] <bekks> Moonlightning: Because that isnt needed.
[20:18] <Jiremi> hello
[20:18] <jabes> vga port not working in ubuntu but will in windows. Why?
[20:18] <Moonlightning> …oh…
[20:18] <foul_owl> Rallias: Do you have a source? I believe you, but I would like more information
[20:19] <Rallias> foul_owl, give me a minnute..
[20:19] <foul_owl> np
[20:19] <histo> jabes: what type of video card?
[20:19] <foul_owl> thanks!
[20:19] <Moonlightning> It's the only-allow-what's-needed security paradigm, huh?
[20:19] <jabes> histo nvidea
[20:19] <W4sp> !pm | jony
[20:20] <histo> so you get no display booting?
[20:20] <openyost> foul_owl & Rallias thanks, I'm gonna try some recovery fun.
[20:20] <histo> jabes: so you get no display booting?
[20:20] <foul_owl> np
[20:20] <mustafa> histo http://paste.ubuntu.com/1155954/
[20:21] <jabes> histo when i boot to windows it comes up, but grub loader doesn't show, so for linux there nothing
[20:21] <jony> pls help me someone: I want to moove playonlinux default folder path to my previously mounted NTFS partition
[20:22] <foul_owl> Rallias: Eh who needs data integrity anyway? Random bit flipping just adds character to your data.
[20:22] <bekks> jabes: Grub is hidden by default, you have to press esc or shift its menu.
[20:22] <histo> mustafa: don't know haven't seen that error before
[20:22] <bekks> *to display
[20:22] <histo> mustafa: perhaps someone else can help
[20:22] <jabes> bekks, not if you dual boot :)
[20:22] <mustafa> histo thank you for your afford
[20:22] <bekks> jony: You will lose all permissions and totally break that folder contens.
[20:22] <jabes> bekks, my vga port isn't working
[20:22] <gunarm> since raid6 is bad for constant, small writes.  for torrenting, would it better to download stuff to a drive not part of the array and then rsync them over when they finish?
[20:22] <bekks> *contents.
[20:23] <miranda> night all
[20:23] <jony> ok, but I want to moove it since I don't have much free space on linux partition to install new games
[20:23] <ech0dish> l8
[20:23] <openyost> HA!  Found it  .xsession-errors is 64GB large
[20:23] <foul_owl>  openyost: Nice!
[20:23] <bekks> jony: That doesnt change the fact of breaking it, when moving it onto NTFS.
[20:23] <Rallias> foul_owl, http://www.zdnet.com/blog/storage/why-raid-6-stops-working-in-2019/805 under the bold "The crux of the problem"
[20:23] <bekks> jony: No matter what you want. :)
[20:24] <foul_owl>  openyost: Good old runaway log file
[20:24] <openyost> foul_owl I have no idea how fsck fixed it the first time
[20:24] <jony> any ssugesion then?
[20:24] <jony> suggestion
[20:24] <foul_owl> Rallias: oh dear :(
[20:24] <Rallias> I cited the wrong number...
[20:24] <mooser> Something interesting happen on reboot this time! It show "Lubuntu" logo When I chose Ubuntu on Dual Boot screen where I choose Windows Or Ubuntu... is this because I installet lxde after I installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
[20:24] <foul_owl>  openyost: Yeah no idea on that!
[20:25] <Rallias> its 2 tb have a 38% of failed images.
[20:25] <openyost> And i found the error, someone has been trying to hack into my VNC
[20:25] <foul_owl>  openyost: You can always set up logrotate :P
[20:25] <openyost> like Dbaggs :)
[20:25] <jabes> mooser, that sounds logical
[20:25] <mooser> didn't really get it now. Is my Ubuntu runs on lxde instead of unity?
[20:25] <Rallias> openyost, how's that the problem? Huge log files?
[20:25] <Moonlightning> I'm getting a package-unavailable from nvidia-current on powerpc, but the website has a page for it…
[20:26] <bekks> jony: Dont move it onto NTFS, thats the only suggestion.
[20:26] <openyost> Rallias that is all the log file even is, rejection from vino
[20:26] <jabes> mooser, you can choice with desktop you want to run on. lxde or unity
[20:26] <foul_owl> Rallias: The solution is clearly 4 disk raid 1
[20:26] <Moonlightning> And yes, I did just do an `apt-get update`
[20:26] <Rallias> foul_owl, is raid 1 stripe or mirror?
[20:26] <foul_owl> The only problem is finding a decent raid controller
[20:26] <foul_owl> mirror
[20:26] <Rallias> ah mmk
[20:26] <mooser> jabes isn't lxde more ligher and faster then unity?
[20:26] <foul_owl> so you have four copies of your data :)
[20:26] <Rallias> I liken to do 3-mirror raid 10
[20:26] <jabes> mooser, yep
[20:27] <jony> ty
[20:27] <foul_owl> Great read speed on a raid 1 afaik, but again, I don't have a decent (non-fakeraid) controller yet
[20:27] <mooser> but how could i run unity stuff on lxde? like unity launcher bar?
[20:27] <UnknownFork> Hello, I have had Xubuntu 12.04 installed on my Toshiba Mini NB505-N508BL for over 3 months. The touchpad recently stopped working on it. It has stopped working before, but has started working again after a reboot. Whenever I reboot it now it still doesn't work. I have just booted Xubuntu 12.04 from the CD and the touchpad works perfectly. Help?
[20:27] <jabes> mooser, can't
[20:27] <Rallias> foul_owl, I have to work with raid-0 daily :/
[20:28] <schneida> Plz help: Is there a way to prevent the at command from stripping all quotes, so that echo 'command "my string"' | at now doesn't turn out as 'command my string'?
[20:28] <Guest41027> nick luisnux
[20:28] <mooser> hmm i am now logged in to "gnome-panel". so u say it will not show unity launcher bar if i login to Ubuntu 3d?
[20:28] <foul_owl> production raid 0?
[20:28] <Rallias> foul_owl, in an openvz environment to boot
[20:28] <jabes> UnknownFork, your configuration for your touch pad has been disabled most likely
[20:28] <Moonlightning> schneida: it works like that for me…
[20:28] <Rallias> We have offsite backups.
[20:28] <mooser> or it will automaticaly turn back to unity and not boot in lxde?
[20:28] <foul_owl> so the host is running raid 0...?
[20:29] <Rallias> foul_owl, yes.
[20:29] <foul_owl> http://tinyurl.com/lz89pd
[20:29] <Rallias> It has 2 raid 0's set up, one's for creating backups.
[20:29] <schneida> Moonlightning: did you try it by using echo 'command "my string"' | cat or with the real at command?
[20:29] <foul_owl> Interesting....
[20:29] <UnknownFork> jabes, How do I enable it?
[20:29] <ubifreak> guys guys, so I got ubuntu to install on my system, and it unmounted my hdd, what do?
[20:30] <ubifreak> (It's not installing on my hdd)
[20:30] <foul_owl> I guess that is kind of like a raid 10 then :P
[20:30] <Rallias> With an excruciatingly boring script my boss wrote.
[20:30] <ubifreak> How do I mount it back?
[20:30] <Rallias> foul_owl, technically, no.
[20:30] <ubifreak> 10.04
[20:30] <Moonlightning> < echo 'something "something else"' | cat
[20:30] <Moonlightning> > something "something else"
[20:30] <Rallias> foul_owl, its like an onsite backup
[20:30] <foul_owl> yeah
[20:30] <foul_owl> the :P was implying that haha
[20:30] <foul_owl> What filesystem?
[20:30] <jabes> what is the configuration editor for ubuntu? it use to come default on 10.10?
[20:30] <ubifreak> I tried to mount from terminal, from nautilus but I can't.
[20:30] <Rallias> foul_owl, ext3
[20:31] <schneida> Moonlightning: that works for me too, but using at, it strips all the " which makes the string appear as multiple parameters to my command program
[20:31] <jabes> UnknownFork, you will need a configuration editor
[20:31] <UnknownFork> k
[20:31] <foul_owl> Do you know if its possible to run OpenVZ on a filesystem that doesn't need to fsk?
[20:31] <foul_owl> *fsck
[20:32] <schneida> googling for my problem wasn't helpful at all, because "at" is not really a good searchquery at all
[20:32] <Rallias> foul_owl, meh, boss likes default configs.
[20:32] <ubifreak> Can you see this, or do I have to /NickServer register?
[20:32] <mooser> will Compiz work in Gnome-Panel? lxde?
[20:32] <W4sp> ubifreak : You can be seen.
[20:32] <Moonlightning> schneida: can't you just pass the command to `at` rather than piping it?
[20:32] <ubifreak> W4sp always.
[20:32] <bekks> mooser: No. No.
[20:33] <ubifreak> So any one can help? Thanks in advance.
[20:33] <mooser> it will not?
[20:33] <morteza> my grub can load with text mod , but can't load with default mode
[20:33] <xangua> mooser: bekks it does, yes
[20:33] <morteza> my grub can load with text mode , but can't load with default mode , how to fix it?
[20:33] <W4sp> schneida: Whatevery you try to achieve it's not an 'at' issue. See sh/ksh/bash or whatever you have.
[20:33] <mooser> it does or not?
[20:33] <mooser> confused
[20:34] <g00053> i get this error when i try to install et , can anyone point me in the right direction...
[20:34] <g00053> ./setup.sh: 191: ./setup.sh: /home/g00053/.setup26647: not found
[20:34] <ubifreak> No one can answer my basic mount ntfs question?
[20:34] <TrevMyster> Can anyone tell me what the best Note Taking Application is in Ubuntu (Like OneNote)
[20:35] <bekks> ubifreak: You cant install Ubuntu onto NTFS.
[20:35] <schneida> but it only happens with the at command, piping is the only option because it should eventually work from inside a non blocking php script
[20:35] <ubifreak> bekks, I just want to mount it, thanks.
[20:35] <mooser> xangua how do i run compiz in gnome-panel?
[20:35] <ubifreak> I installed ubi to ext4, but it unmounted my ntfs
[20:35] <bekks> ubifreak: you dont need it to be mounted for installing ubuntu onto another partition. :)
[20:35] <xangua> mooser: select fallback mode with efects in the login screen
[20:35] <ubifreak> I want to retrieve a file that I need to mail right now
[20:36] <bekks> ubifreak: So you used Wubi to install Ubuntu?
[20:36] <ubifreak> I use live usb
[20:36] <ubifreak> to install it on a usb.
[20:36] <W4sp> ubifreak: With 'guys' you mask 50% of potential assistance. :-) Maybe that's what it is.
[20:37] <ubifreak> yeah I'm sorry W4sp..
[20:37] <mooser> mooser there was no fallback mode. I had to choose GNOME CLASSIC
[20:37] <Rallias> foul_owl, the problem with it is that whatever filesystem is getting used has to support the 2.6.18 kernel, alot of stuff is fishy with that one.
[20:37] <W4sp> ubifreak: No problem.
[20:38] <devilz> i deleted the partition in which my ubuntu was installed from windows. now when i boot my windows isn't loading but i am getting a black window with grub rescue can anyone help me ?
[20:38] <ubifreak> So, my problem is as following, I am trying to install ubuntu on a usb (ext4) from a live usb (fat32) and it for some reason unmounted my main ntfs, can any one help me, gender doesn't matter?
[20:38] <Rallias> devilz do you have a windows disk?
[20:39] <devilz> u mean a recovery or backup disk?
[20:39] <W4sp> schneida: Please, that can't be a big issue. Can you tell the entire command line so I can test it. Also, to be more specific... What shell do you use?
[20:39] <Rallias> devilz recovery
[20:39] <Rallias> I'm not sure about backup
[20:39] <devilz> nopr :(
[20:39] <sambagirl> is there any effort for fingerprint reading with ubuntu? specifically
[20:39] <bjv> ubifreak, i dont see how unmounting your main ntfs impacts ability to boot from usb to install to another usb.. or are you attempting to overwrite the install drive?
[20:39] <sambagirl> UPEK TCS3 TouchStrip™ strip sensor with
[20:39] <sambagirl> CMOS active capacitive pixel-sensing
[20:39] <sambagirl> technology
[20:39] <bjv> How can i troubleshoot Nautilus?   after restarting compiz (compiz --replace ccp) i find i am unable to click to focus folders or files in nautilus?  click works in firefox/gnome-terminal, i tried running nautilus --check and also killall nautilus then starting a new one.  Same behavior.  nothing in /var/crash... options?
[20:39] <FloodBot1> sambagirl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:40] <devilz> nope*
[20:40] <Rallias> devilz get the grub boot disk and install it. Only thing I can think of.
[20:40] <ubifreak> bjv, I just want to retrieve a .txt file from main hdd (ntfs)
[20:40] <ubifreak> main hdd is not used in any way.. it just unmounted it.
[20:40] <devilz> grub boot disk?? whats that?
[20:40] <fabio> ciao a tutti
[20:40] <Rallias> devilz livecd used for installing grub
[20:40] <schneida> W4sp: i'm using bash with ssh
[20:41] <Rallias> can't think the exact name on the spot.
[20:41] <schneida> the point is to execute a long running command with a string parameter followed by multiple numbers from inside php
[20:41] <ubifreak> #ubuntu-italia fabio
[20:41] <W4sp> !it | fabio
[20:41] <devilz> Rallias: u mean livecd for ubuntu?
[20:41] <ubifreak> yeah ubuntu-it..
[20:41] <Rallias> devilz it would work..
[20:42] <Rallias> devilz in the ubuntu livecd, make a partition for a bootloader (ext2, 256mb should be enough)
[20:43] <krazyyyy> Hello
[20:44] <MandrakeRoot> Hi
[20:45] <ubifreak> Anyone, guys? It's not a hard question, I just can't figure out due to lack of using linux.
[20:45] <W4sp> schneida: I see. To let me know the command line woudln't help then. I was wondering about your single and double quotes though ... There is #bash on FreeNode too. Maybe they can spot something.
[20:45] <TrevMyster> Can someone help me with gnome-shell? The batter icon is like dissapered. But I can click the empty space and it will tell me my battery information
[20:45] <Kryptron> ubifreak: http://linuxconfig.org/How_to_mount_partition_with_ntfs_file_system_and_read_write_access
[20:45] <devilz> Rallias: last time when i was installing ubuntu i didn;t create any partition for bootloader. i think it was using the same one which window uses.does that mean the my windows and data can be lost?
[20:45] <W4sp> ubifreak: Did you try to mount your NTFS after boot from CD? ?You should be able to cp the .txt to your USB (ext4).
[20:45] <Seven_Six_Two> Does anyone know how to stream with pulseaudio now that padevchooser isn't available? None of the pulse tools seem to have the option.
[20:45] <morfd> hi
[20:45] <ubifreak> thanks guys.. krypton post is kind of relevant to my problem
[20:45] <W4sp> Seven_Six_Two: I have never tried but is 'vlc' not able to do that?
[20:45] <Seven_Six_Two> W4sp, possibly, but that isn't what I want to do. I am using MPD for music. VLC can't do the same thing
[20:46] <ubifreak> Thanks and sorry again
[20:46] <retnan> hello world guys! am trying to setup virtual host with apache to fetch website from /home/username but gets this error /home/.htaccess pcfg_openfile (13) permision denied
[20:46] <Kryptron> ubifreak: all hail mighty google ;)
[20:47] <MonkeyDu1t> !google > Kryptron
[20:47] <arpit> hey
[20:47] <pranavk> does anybody know a good add on for firefox that let me queue the items i want to download and then download one by one
[20:47] <rubatharisan> Hi, it appears like my ubuntu installation won't recon my grapichs card
[20:47] <mooser> xangua, this is what I see in login screen. http://i45.tinypic.com/359ikvc.jpg There is no GNOME FALLBACK option in list... Why its missing?
[20:47] <ubifreak> Still not allowing me but I will not waste #ubuntu's time.. Thanks again
[20:48] <trism> mooser: Gnome Classic is the one with compiz, the (no effects) one is without
[20:49] <W4sp> Seven_Six_Two: I see. I have no expertise i multi-media. Only advice would be to see what exception is thrown by the clients connecting to MPD.
[20:51] <W4sp> retnan: Why's it /home and not /home/$USER...?
[20:52] <deadmund> I'm using vlc (via cli) to download a stream to a file.  However, when I run the vlc command it opens a gui window which doesn't close.  I wanna script the command and run it many times in a row, how can I keep the gui window from opening?
[20:53] <retnan> W4sp: yeah /home/$USER but the error says /home/.htaccess i wander why too
[20:53] <MoneyDust> deadmund  vlc is a media player, it's not a terminal command
[20:53] <rubatharisan> Hi, how do i remove folders at the right side Nautilus?
[20:53] <W4sp> pranavk: I'm a CLI frak and curl ususally does the things.
[20:53] <Kryptron> cvlc
[20:53] <johana> hello
[20:53] <rubatharisan> left side*
[20:53] <johana> i've just installed ubuntu studio
[20:53] <deadmund> MoneyDust: You can use it on the command line like this: http://wiki.videolan.org/Documentation:Streaming_HowTo/Receive_and_Save_a_Stream
[20:54] <W4sp> retnan: How do you start it and what does /etc/passwd have to say about apache or _apache?
[20:54] <retnan> W4sp: since i got the permission error, i added www-data to the group $USER belongs to and the error still persist
[20:54] <johana> and I think i need some help
[20:54] <mooser> trism, then how do i run compiz in gnome-panel classic?
[20:55] <retnan> W4sp: apache username on ubuntu is www-data and i added it to $USER's group
[20:55] <W4sp> retnan: Did you compile apached? I wonder if it is chrooted? maybe it can't read its config files.
[20:55] <Kryptron> deadmund: try cvlc
[20:56] <retnan> W4sp: i installed from repository
[20:56] <xangua> mooser: there are gnome classic & gnome classic (no effects) ; wich do you think uses compiz¿
[20:56] <deadmund> Kryptron: is this what I think it is?
[20:56] <W4sp> retnan: OK, then it's not chrooted, I suppose. Sorry.
[20:56] <fidel> hi - is there a software-way to define screen brightness on a desktop running ubuntu?
[20:56] <PioneerAxon> I need a working PPA for compiz, which has flickering on desktop cube fixed. Where can I find that?
[20:57] <psilo23> Hi everyone, i am trying to install Despotify on a 64bit machine running 12.04, but i keep getting the error: libtool: link: `aes.lo' is not a valid libtool object
[20:57] <fidel> it works flawless using the brightness buttons on my laptops - but i cant find a method to do the same on my main desktop pc
[20:57] <deadmund> Kryptron: seems to work but the command never returns :/
[20:57] <psilo23> i tried to search everywhere but i couldnt find anything, does anyone know what this error might mean ?
[20:58] <deadmund> Kryptron: I think it will work though...
[20:59] <W4sp> fidel: Yes, there is. What hardware do you have?
[20:59] <fidel> W4sp: 2 samsung led displays and a passive nv card using the origial nv driver
[21:00] <fidel> nv 9500 card
[21:00] <W4sp> fidel: It's something like this... echo 100 | tee /sys/class/backlight/samsung/brightness or similar.
[21:01] <Jiremi> i just reinstalled windows on a dual boot machine and lost grub, is there a way to boot into my Ubuntu installation without reinstalling grub from the Ubuntu disk?
[21:01] <psilo23> nobody has a clue ?
[21:01] <W4sp> fidel You should check where it is located.
[21:01] <Kryptron> deadmund: Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface
[21:01] <deadmund> Kryptron: yeah... I know
[21:01] <fidel> W4sp: ok thanks for the pointer ....gonna continue my search
[21:02] <W4sp> fidel: just 'find /sys -name brightness may lead to results.
[21:02] <ClientAlive> Hi. I'm at a loss to understand why something is happening on my system. I started with ubuntu server 12.04, installed lxde on it then decided I would rather have gnome. I installed gnome but it comes with a bunch of extra apps I don't want (stuff like evince and empathy, etc, etc). When I do a sudo apt-get remove for any one of those extra packages it want's to remove gnome and gnome shell as well - leaving the system broken. Is there no
[21:02] <ClientAlive> way to simply get a full gnome 3 on my ubuntu without all the extra suff?
[21:04] <savio> ClientAlive,
[21:04] <savio> i think use apt-get dselect method
[21:04] <ClientAlive> edit: first I removed lxde (I think I got it all) then I installed gnome
[21:04] <W4sp> ClientAlive: That's probably caused because it has the user status that want's to tell empathy if you're online. :-(
[21:04] <TJ-> Jiremi: There is. You can add Ubuntu to the Window's boot menu
[21:05] <HudderStorm_> hi
[21:05] <Kryptron> deadmund: pm ?
[21:05] <shade34321> does anybody recomend a VNC server for ubuntu 12.04?
[21:05] <savio> HudderStorm_, hello
[21:05] <ssta_> ClientAlive: look at the "equivs" too (but be careful)
[21:05] <ssta_> s/too/tool/
[21:05] <fidel> W4sp: you expect some kind of config or executeable with that name?
[21:06] <W4sp> fidel: That's right. I will tell you in a minute. I need to swap drives to check as I normally run OpenBSD. Will you stay online?
[21:06] <fidel> if so - would that be installed by default or part of a specific package - search is still running as the search sinde /sys gave nothing i am searching the entire FS now
[21:06] <mooser> some one help me to run Compiz in Gnome Classic?
[21:06] <fidel> W4sp: yes - will stay online
[21:06] <auronandace> !rootirc | nMc
[21:06] <W4sp> OK, Cool
[21:07] <Kid_Matthew> Can any body help me
[21:07] <fidel> !ask > Kid_Matthew
[21:07] <Jiremi> ok ill go search it and try it
[21:08] <TJ-> Jiremi: http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/
[21:09] <TJ-> Jiremi: see this for a guide http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Linux
[21:09] <ClientAlive> savio: W4sp: thks for the tips. So if I'm understanding correctly it seems there are two methods by which I may reach my goal...  (1) from the bare 12.04 server, use some deselect flag with apt-get (first I've heard of that flag). or (2) find a way to remove the (whatever it is) that wants to tell empathy when I'm online first - then go about removing the little extras I don't want. Is that on target?
[21:09] <Jiremi> thanks
[21:10] <W4sp> fidel: Back ....
[21:10] <fidel> wb
[21:10] <Kid_Matthew> iI download and install Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 LTS on Windows Vista. When i booted it up it loads a splash screen for a good minute, Then it will say Gave up waiting for Root Device, /dev/disk/by-uuid/acaca27aaca23eab Doesn't Exist Dropping into shell.
[21:10] <ClientAlive> ssta: what are equivs?
[21:10] <W4sp> fidel: My command is echo 200 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/panasonic/brightness and I can adjust brigtness on a scale from 0 to 254.
[21:10] <ssta_> ClientAlive: it's a tool that lets you create metapackages that pretend that dependencies you don't want intalled are actually installed
[21:11] <auronandace> Kid_Matthew: any reason you are using wubi?
[21:11] <Kid_Matthew> idk i was just following the tutorial ubuntu had on their site...
[21:11] <fidel> W4sp: there is no /sys/class/samsung here.... but i'll check if i can find sonething via websearch for this folrder-structure
[21:11] <W4sp> fidel: If you cd into /sys/class/backlight you should see your manufacturer.
[21:11] <fidel> i assume you run a panasonic display right?
[21:11] <ClientAlive> ssta: I see
[21:12] <auronandace> Kid_Matthew: wubi is awful, better to use a vm or dual-boot
[21:12] <fidel> W4sp: /sys/class/backlight is empty
[21:12] <W4sp> fidel: Mine is Panasonic. That's why I asked you what manufacturer you have. But if you cd  into /sys/class/backlight it should show up a link. Can you see it?
[21:12] <Kid_Matthew> auronandace,  so wwhat do i do then?
[21:13] <fidel> W4sp: no backlight is completly empty
[21:13] <W4sp> fidel: No worries, let me check here.
[21:13] <ClientAlive> ok, well, I'll look into it more sometime soon. (tired of messing w/ it today). Thx guys.
[21:13] <auronandace> !install | Kid_Matthew
[21:13] <fidel> W4sp: are you using a manual compiled kernel?
[21:14] <W4sp> fidel: No, jsut from the shelves. Do you have /sys/devices?
[21:14] <Kid_Matthew> ok auronandace  how do i unstall what wubi installed
[21:15] <auronandace> Kid_Matthew: i assume its in the add/remove programs thingy
[21:15] <Kid_Matthew> ok
[21:15] <Kid_Matthew> thx
[21:15] <Godel> Has anyone know about the Ubuntu 12.04 with built-in laptop webcams? Google doesn't find a solution but many reports of the problem.
[21:15] <fidel> W4sp: yes i have that one. it contains the following folders: breakpoint, cpu, LNXSYSTW:00, pci:0000:00, pci0000:3f, platform, pnp0, rapidio, software, system, tracepoint and virtual
[21:16] <auronandace> Kid_Matthew: try installing ubuntu in a vm first, a vm is a brilliant practice ground
[21:16] <TJ-> Godel: Depends on the camera and driver support mostly. What specific problem are you having?
[21:16] <Kid_Matthew> i installed it into oracle just fine
[21:16] <W4sp> fidel: After you cd into /dev/devices run 'find . -name brightness'
[21:17] <UnknownFork> Is xfconf included in xubuntu?
[21:17] <fidel> W4sp: no hits
[21:17] <mooser> W4sp,  do u have any idea about running compiz in gnome classic?
[21:17] <Godel> TJ-, Cheese says it cannot find any video device. I used to use the camera on this computer before upgrading to 12.04
[21:17] <Kryptron> deadmund: "cvlc <options> <stream> &"
[21:19] <TJ-> Godel: first you need to find the camera's vendor:product ID... if it is a USB camera you can check what USB devices are connected using "lsusb"
[21:20] <Godel> TJ-, Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05a9:2640 OmniVision Technologies, Inc. OV2640 Webcam
[21:20] <TJ-> Godel: arghh... omnivision!
[21:20] <mooser> TJ-,  Do u have any idea about using compiz in gnome classic
[21:22] <W4sp> fidel: The directory content I have is actual_drightness, brightness, max_brightness, bl_power, and type. Also, there's power/ (directory).
[21:22] <TJ-> mooser: None.
[21:22] <jimila> +l
[21:23] <TJ-> Godel: My checks show that the ID of that device is *not* in the kernel IDs for Precise's v3.2 kernel
[21:23] <fidel> W4sp: ok. thanks for your nice support btw. i guess my way is now to continue searching ..maybe why i dont have anything brightness related inside /sys in the first place
[21:23] <W4sp> fidel: If you can find that you can run the command I gave you. It will work. The question however is now why are those files not available on yous sustem. :-(
[21:23] <Su_Girl> TJ-,  thx anyway
[21:23] <fidel> yep hehe
[21:23] <TJ-> Godel: It *is* in the ID map for v3.5 kernel (from mainline) matching the uvcvideo driver, so it's a UVC camera
[21:23] <pranavk> my proxy server refuses connection after a particular time, so to solve it i make ssh tunnel which is not broken even after thr time limit ends. i just restarted my network interface and connected again. after waiting sometime i found out that the terminal session using ssh tunnel reconnected itself but new connections to make tunnel in another window is rejected. this is making me think if its possible to reconnect even after rebooting the pc. is it possible
[21:24] <W4sp> fidel: I suppose The reason why you can't adjust it is because the dirs are not there.
[21:24] <fidel> thats the main question right now - guess i'll continue digging tomorrow as i need some sleep now. again: thanks for the great help you offered.
[21:24] <Su_Girl> Would there be a relation about missing effects in GNOME CLASSIC with my lxde install?
[21:25] <TJ-> Godel: You could try installing one of the packaged mainline recent kernels. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[21:25] <W4sp> fidel: Very welcome.
[21:25] <Su_Girl> I had Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and then installed lxde on it.
[21:25] <Su_Girl> is this why gnome-panel (gnome classic) is missing visual effects?
[21:26] <k1l> gnome-classic is just a light version of the old gnome2. thats why there is no effects (iirc)
[21:26] <david23400> Please someone show me a laptop which doesnt HEAT much!!!! as cold as possible Thanks
[21:27] <Su_Girl> k1l,  then what is GNOME CLASSıC (WITHOUT EFFECTS)
[21:28] <k1l> Su_Girl: its a 2d fallback for those without 3d support who cant run the gnome-shell (needs 3d)
[21:28] <auronandace> david23400: thats pretty difficult given the nature of laptops and also offtopic in this channel, try ##hardware
[21:28] <pranavk> david23400. most laptop heat up with linux as compared to wondows
[21:28] <foul_owl> Hello. I am having a problem with OpenGL. I have an Nvidia GeForce 6600 video card that does not seem to have OpenGL acceleration enabled. Running glxgears gives me a black windowed gtk window. This problem occurred with the default nouveau drivers for 12.04, and again when I uninstalled nouveau and installed the latest Nvidia drivers from the Nvidia driver ppa (304.37) Trying to run other OpenGL apps (such as openarena) produces a black screen 
[21:28] <pranavk> david23400. though i have heard that lenovo laptop are good for linux and dont heat up...i m not sure
[21:29] <david23400> thx
[21:29] <Su_Girl> k1l,  All i wanted to do is using GNOME's wonderfull Launcher menu stands left-top dropdown and i still like the compiz wave effects...
[21:29] <Godel> TJ-, Is this going to mess up one thousand other things? :) The webcam is the only problem I am having now, and it used to work just fine before the upgrade. It looks like I am replacing the Kernel which scares me.
[21:30] <k1l> Su_Girl: gnome2 is dead. so you need to look out for smth new. there are some things that come close to gnome2 but they wont be gnome2
[21:30] <Devilz> i want to completely remove ubuntu 12.04 which is installed along with windows on my system. Can anyone tell me how to do that without harming windows files??
[21:30] <TJ-> Godel: Well I've been running the v3.5 kernel since it was released and I've found Precise is snappier and better behaviour
[21:30] <W4sp> Is there a CLI for XMMP?
[21:30] <Godel> TJ-, okay. Thank you. I will do that.
[21:31] <TJ-> Godel: and it doesn't replace your current kernel, it just selects the new one as the default. You can always choose to boot the previous version(s) from the boot menu at start-up
[21:32] <Shogoot> quick question, does the iptable block or allow connections by default?  out of the box sort of speak?
[21:33] <Su_Girl> k1l, well cant I use Gnomes LAuncher BAr in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[21:34] <k1l> Su_Girl: the old gnome2 isnt compatible with the new gnome3 basis. so more gnome2 as in gnome-classic wont be there.
[21:34] <MoneyDust> Su_Girl  install gnome-panel
[21:35] <Su_Girl> MoneyDust,  this is the gnome-panel
[21:35] <k1l> !notunity | Su_Girl
[21:35] <Su_Girl> I alreay installed the gnome-panel
[21:35] <W4sp> Su_Girl: You can install the gnome-panel.
[21:36] <k1l> most users wanting the gnome2 feeling i know of went to xfce (xubuntu) Su_Girl. maybe you want to take a look at that
[21:37] <Su_Girl> k1l, MoneyDust , W4sp  I do have gnome-panel installed. This is how I logged in Gnome-Classic . Here > http://i45.tinypic.com/359ikvc.jpg
[21:38] <Su_Girl> why cant i use gnome3?
[21:39] <W4sp> Su_Girl: Chances are that your hardware (graphic card) is considered as not suitable. You can use Ubuntu 2D that will give you the launcher.
[21:39] <deadmund> I have hundreds of mpeg video files.  How can I string them all together?
[21:39] <Godel> TJ-, Thanks for your help! :) Have a good Sunday afternoon.
[21:40] <MoneyDust> deadmund  find them all and put in one folder?
[21:40] <W4sp> Su_Girl: Would you like to try it and see if it suits you? It is liked by many as it has the launcher (to the left) and uses meta key <number> for quick launch shortcuts.
[21:41] <W4sp> Su_Girl: As Ubuntu 2D is offered I would try that one.
[21:41] <threex5> yo! Today I ran the xubuntu, lubuntu, mint cinnamon and mint mate live disks and none of them have the look and feel i want
[21:42] <deadmund> MoneyDust: I'm not an idiot.  Of course I can put them in the same folder (they already are).  I need to combine them into one long video file.
[21:42] <MoneyDust> threex5  create your own then, it's open source
[21:42] <Ethans> hi
[21:42] <threex5> I just want good old gnome2, clearlooks, tango icons, some shadows and no visual effects
[21:42] <threex5> true
[21:42] <W4sp> deadmund: HAve a look at 'mediabuntu' and see what tools they offer. The progs can be used on your installation, too.
[21:43] <threex5> if I roll my own, MoneyDust, what do you think I should use as a starting point? None of the distros use gnome 2 anymore
[21:43] <nsaquatics> afternoon, quick question. Ubuntu 10.04LTS. Every time the system has to access the disk for more than just a few meg's, the OS bog's down to an almst frozen state. I've watched the CPU, I have 8 cores and maybe one or will max out to 100% but sometimes they are all mostly idle.
[21:43] <W4sp> threex5: There's Linux from Scratch. But why don't you just install the DE of your choice?
[21:44] <MoneyDust> threex5  if you're skilled enough, better ask in #gnome
[21:44] <nsaquatics> I have an Intel Raid card in it, and have both the OS and the Data drive Mirrored.
[21:44] <Su_Girl> W4sp, I can run Ubuntu3D
[21:44] <nsaquatics> SATA6 Drives and Card.
[21:44] <W4sp> Su_Girl: Hey, that's great. Somewhat I got you wrong then.
[21:45] <foul_owl> Hello. I am having a problem with OpenGL. I have an Nvidia GeForce 6600 video card that does not seem to have OpenGL acceleration enabled. Running glxgears gives me a black windowed gtk window. This problem occurred with the default nouveau drivers for 12.04, and again when I uninstalled nouveau and installed the latest Nvidia drivers from the Nvidia driver ppa (304.37) Trying to run other OpenGL apps (such as openarena) produces a black screen 
[21:45] <threex5> i doubt i'm skilled enough. I've been using ubuntu on and off for like 6 years now and I was still banging my head against the wall last night trying to get rid of unity, or just to get the top panel to autohide, basic stuff
[21:46] <MoneyDust> threex5  gnome classic and xfce are very similar to gnome2
[21:46] <threex5> MoneyDust, maybe I should give xubuntu another shot then
[21:46] <threex5> what about xubuntu v lubuntu? any opinions?
[21:46] <crimsonmane> xfce is not similar to gnome2
[21:46] <Nudista_madrid> hola
[21:47] <W4sp> threex5: If you have ever installed any package on your existing Ubuntu then it will be the same experience. Just select the different and newly installed desktop environgment during login.
[21:47] <W4sp> threex5: Why don't you install Xfce or LXDE and see for yourself?
[21:48] <W4sp> !es | Nudista_madrid
[21:49] <MoneyDust> threex5  try both xubuntu and lubuntu, then choose the one you prefer
[21:50] <threex5> MoneyDust, I ran both live discs but I thought I'd ask because sometimes it takes using a distro for a while before you realize its strengths and limitations
[21:51] <W4sp> It is an overall misconception that the choice of Unity, Xfce or LXDE leads to a specific distro.
[21:51] <MoneyDust> threex5  no system is perfect
[21:52]  * W4sp leans back and watches.
[21:52] <deadmund> I have many video files that I can use cat to combine.  They are numbered (e.g. 1, 2, 10, 25, etc).  How can I run cat so that they will be combined in numerical order (as opposed to stupid order 1 10 100 101 102 103 ...)
[21:53] <MoneyDust> deadmund  better ask in #bash, i guess
[21:53] <deadmund> MoneyDust: yeah...
[21:53] <deadmund> MoneyDust: thanks
[21:55] <cc11rocks> http://pastebin.com/a86stjFC
[21:55] <cc11rocks> *Note that this was done from a LiveCD, which I am still in currently
[21:56] <threex5> MoneyDust: true. I'm trying out Mint Cinnamon right now, though, and it's pretty solid
[21:57] <Debolaz> Mint would be pretty nice if it didn't lack full disk encryption.
[21:57] <kekko> ciao
[21:57] <kekko> !list
[22:06] <W4sp> What is a good CLI for XMMP?
[22:08] <soupeee> I'd like to transfer files over wifi from my desktop PC to a netbook, what pkg(s) do I need?
[22:08] <nsaquatics> Nobody has an Idea?
[22:09] <kekko> ciao
[22:09] <kekko> !list
[22:09] <W4sp> soupeee: What OS are involved?
[22:09] <soupeee> pc is linux(gentoo) netbook is lubuntu 12.04
[22:10] <sparkybluefox> bam!
[22:11] <W4sp> soupeee: I would evaluate rsync, that you probably have already installed...?
[22:11] <Apel> Hello
[22:12] <goth> hi
[22:12] <goth> the battery on my mouse is running out, how do I use my keyboard as mouse?
[22:16] <W4sp> goth: You probably use Unity or GNOME3. You can use Ctrl+Alt+t to open a terminal. From then onwards everything is CLI.
[22:17] <W4sp> goth: That said, you cannot use a keyboard as a mouse.
[22:17] <W4sp> !ask | Apel
[22:18] <W4sp> Apel: You can be seen.
[22:18] <cc11rocks> Update : http://pastebin.com/XnZsF9TU
[22:18] <Apel> ?
[22:20] <threex5> Is Cinnamon the linux mint default, or mate?
[22:20] <threex5> which one is the 'official'?
[22:21] <gunarm> since raid6 is bad for constant, small writes.  for torrenting, would it better to download stuff to a drive not part of the array and then rsync them over when they finish?
[22:21] <cc11rocks> Update 2 (More info given) : http://pastebin.com/Lb51mb61
[22:23] <xangua> http://askubuntu.com/questions/78534/where-is-the-keyboard-mouse-feature-in-gnome-3 goth W4sp
[22:23] <xangua> !mint | threex5
[22:23] <W4sp> gunarm: I would worry about that one. What is you maximum transfer rate and what latency can you get from your
[22:23] <W4sp> ISP.
[22:26] <[S]oldato> hi
[22:26] <WeThePeople> hi
[22:27] <WeThePeople> how do i find a .flv file.. i cant get it to ls the path
[22:27] <goth> W4sp: but with the cli I cannot navigate the browser
[22:27] <ghano> kaim2: thank you
[22:28] <MoneyDust> WeThePeople  try locate flv or *.flv
[22:28] <trism> WeThePeople: if you mean one streaming from flash, the file is in /tmp but immediately unlinked, although you can usually find it with: lsof +L1
[22:29] <Jotek> Hello everybody, I have problem
[22:29] <omido> Hey . I have an Acer Travelmate C110 with 900.0 mhz CPU and 512 mb memory. what edition of ubuntu is suitable to install on such hardware?
[22:29] <v1c3> hello, i´ve got a problem with the well known rings lua-script for conky. conky works well but there are no rings..
[22:29] <W4sp> goth: Almost every application can be used with a keyboard. If it gets too complicated just buy new batteries.
[22:30] <W4sp> omido: To run the OS Lubuntu and Xubuntu are fine. Ubuntu may work as well but don't expect wonders. Lubuntu has a smaller footprint than Xubuntu.
[22:30] <MoneyDust> omido  lubuntu is very light, also try !mini
[22:31] <omido> Thank you so much guys
[22:31] <goth> is there no packaGE TO USE KEYB. AS MOUSE?
[22:31] <goth> oopscaps
[22:31] <v1c3> hello, i´ve got a problem with the well known rings lua-script for conky. conky works well but there are no rings.. do i need any packages except cairo to draw the rings? has the script to be set as executable? any other ideas?
[22:32] <WeThePeople> moneydust, trism, i am trying to find a .flv i downloaded with youtube-dl
[22:32] <danielkarlsson> Hi everyone! I need some help with troubleshooting. I run 12.10 fully upgraded and I'm having problem with memory leaks and 100% CPU usage with software-center and indicator-datetime-service. I've run them both with strace and the both get stuck in a loop with the message: unable to create file '/home/daniel/.cache/dconf/user': Input/output error.  dconf will not work properly. All help appreciated!
[22:32] <xangua> !11.10 | danielkarlsson
[22:32] <xangua> !12.10 | danielkarlsson
[22:32] <bazhang> danielkarlsson, #ubuntu+1 for that
[22:32] <n-iCe> !addclink #ubuntu #ubuntu
[22:33] <W4sp> danielkarlsson: There's #ubuntu+1 for that.
[22:33] <danielkarlsson> Thanks W4sp!
[22:34] <MoneyDust> WeThePeople  you shou,d find it in the folder where you typed the command
[22:34] <victor_> buenas tardes gente
[22:34] <cc11rocks> Tu hablas ingles victor_ ?
[22:35] <Jotek> Well, again: Hello everybody. I have a problem. I am running on Lubuntu, and Ive downloaded a "Tibia" client from its main site, and when I try to run it, there appears and window where I have to choose an application to make it works. When I choose terminal, nothing happens.
[22:35] <MoneyDust> !es
[22:36] <hoya> thanks Kaim5
[22:36] <n-iCe> !addclink #ubuntu #ubuntu
[22:37] <n-iCe> hi hoya
[22:37] <raphael> Whats the best and easy program to protect the network
[22:37] <hoya> hi n-ice
[22:37] <Jotek> can anybody help me?
[22:38] <raphael> hello fellows, i am from brazil and glad to meet you guys
[22:38] <openyost> Jotek what file type is it?
[22:38] <Jotek> uhm... there is not written anywhere
[22:38] <raphael> i need someone to help me because my network, computer, celphone.. all hacked!
[22:38] <Jotek> in lubuntu it looks like a rack on grey background (icon)
[22:39] <Treaver> Can someone tell me how to fix suspend in Ubuntu 12.04
[22:39] <raphael> i do not understand whtats happening
[22:39] <W4sp> raphael: In short, pf as open source, Checkpoint-1 clustered.
[22:39] <W4sp> raphael: Checkpoint-1 is a commercial product.
[22:40] <n-iCe> !whatnet
[22:40] <Kaim5> n-iCe: This net is named "Freenode" in my records.
[22:40] <openyost> Jotek from a quick look, it appears that Tibia is a windows program.  So i think the extension will be .exe
[22:41] <Jotek> openyost: you have to choose between windows version and the linux one, ive choosen that compatible with linux
[22:41] <gunarm> W4sp, did you mean to say you wouldn't worry about it?  i'm sure my transfer rate is less than my hard drive write speed
[22:41] <openyost> Oh ok, I have to make an account to find the linux file
[22:42] <W4sp> gunarm: Yes, there yoiu have it. See my response.
[22:42] <Jotek> openyost: not really, go into "account" section and you will have there an option to download it without registering
[22:43] <W4sp> raphael: How do you know it's hacked?
[22:43] <Treaver> Anyone know how to change the login shell of Ubuntu 12.04? Anyone help with getting suspend to work (Hibernate)
[22:43] <Jotek> openyost: ill be thankfull if Ill be able to play
[22:43] <W4sp> Treaver: What login shell do you want...?
[22:44] <openyost> Jotek, I'm gonna try my best to help I'm not too used to how lubuntu works, I usually use ubuntu  It downloads as an archive file,  right click it and extract that in your download folder
[22:44] <WeThePeople> moneydust, i looked in youtube-dl but the vid didnt show up there, when i type ls the video file is shown and the color is a pinkish color, do you know where the location is for the corresponding color?
[22:44] <raphael> i dont know how to explain
[22:44] <Jotek> openyost: i did it
[22:44] <W4sp> raphael: The I don't know how to help you.
[22:44] <raphael> i dont know how to explain
[22:44] <raphael> ok
[22:44] <openyost> Jotek so you were trying to run the StartTibia.sh file?
[22:44] <raphael> listen... hack me!
[22:45] <Jotek> StartTibia.sh runs here as default text file
[22:45] <raphael> i cant explain.. the google search is weird
[22:45] <raphael> my twitter... facebook
[22:45] <openyost> ok.  Right click and change properties find the box that allows it to run as a program
[22:45] <W4sp> raphael: This is not a 2600 or grey hat stuff. We support Ubuntu.
[22:45] <raphael> the snort shows that modem is hacked
[22:46] <Treaver> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Sunshine?content=43012 this one
[22:46] <raphael> i understand
[22:46] <raphael> i am sorry
[22:46] <Jotek> openyost: im now unable to do it (pc is under occupation) but ill try it when ill get it back to my hands
[22:46] <raphael> i wonder that u all couldnt do nothing
[22:46] <Jotek> openyost: thanks alot =)
[22:46] <raphael> because u are a bunch of lames
[22:46] <raphael> doushbags
[22:46] <raphael> suck my dick
[22:46] <raphael> I AM THE HACKER
[22:46] <openyost> Jotek  making it able to run as a program should make it so you can easily run it.
[22:46] <FloodBot1> raphael: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:46] <Nekura> Does anyone know if ufw will block ssh access by default?
[22:46] <raphael> fuckerssssssssssssssss
[22:47] <Nekura> lol
[22:47] <Nekura> lololol
[22:47] <W4sp> lol
[22:47] <Nekura> Glad I caught that.
[22:47] <Treaver> W4sp do you know how I can do that
[22:47] <openyost> Jotek  good luck!
[22:47] <Mjbmr> Hello, How I can make a virtual system with "ubuntu-vm-builder" and assign external IP to it?
[22:47] <Jotek> openyost: i was checking properties of this file and I do not remember if there was a function to check 'run as program' but i cant say if there wasnt
[22:48] <Jotek> openyost: thanks again for help mate :)
[22:48] <Nekura> Mjbmr does that use QEmu?
[22:48] <n-iCe> !cn
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[22:48] <n-iCe> !cnlist
[22:48] <Mjbmr> Nekura: yes.
[22:48] <openyost> Jotek!  I got it to launch on my comp.  It's the Tibia file  not the StartTibia.sh file
[22:49] <bazhang> n-iCe, /msg ubottu
[22:49] <Nekura> hmm, I've got no idea then, sorry. Was more or less just wondering. If it were xen it'd be complicated
[22:49] <Jotek> openyost: is there the same way to run it?
[22:49] <Nekura> openyost are you setting up a tibia server?
[22:49] <Nekura> openyost may I pm you?
[22:49] <gunarm> no way... tibia? the mmorpg? on linux?
[22:49] <openyost> Jotek I just double clicked the Tibia file and it ran
[22:49] <iamsuperuser> Hello, how do I enable sound on root?
[22:50] <openyost> Nekura, sure  I'm about to go pick up dinner tho
[22:50] <Mjbmr> Are you making fun of me? why you asked that then?
[22:50] <Jotek> openyost: when im doubleclicking it, then it gives me back a window to choose the best program to run it with
[22:50] <openyost> lame  try changing the permissions under the file's properties
[22:51] <dj_segfault> Hi. I'm trying to start my 10.04 (Lucid) computer in text mode.  I found http://fooninja.net/2010/07/29/text-boot-in-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04-disabling-gdm/ which says to put  'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="text"' in /etc/default/grub, but that file doesn't exist on my system, and when I created it and rebooted, it didn't change anything.  Is that file somewhere else?
[22:51] <Mjbmr> Nekura: I used this instruction https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation
[22:51] <openyost> I'll be back in a few minutes, pm me if you have issues laters
[22:51] <iamsuperuser> Nevermind, How do I install drivers? *root*
[22:51] <W4sp> Treaver: Normally yu use chsh. You can edit /etc/passwd, ensure shell is on the root partition and statically linked. See if you work with /etc/shells
[22:52] <Troy^> is there any good alternative to putty?
[22:52] <Scell> dj_segfault try /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:52] <W4sp> Treaver: Make sure you have another user still able to login prior any manual work.
[22:52] <bazhang> Scell, that does not exist any longer
[22:52] <Fluid_Mantis> Hi, I'm a bit stuck with something. Temporarily I'm using a small partition for Ubuntu, which is around 5GB on a solid state drive. I will increase this soon when I migrate some Windows data.
[22:52] <iamsuperuser> So I switched to root account and it has classical gnome theme.. Is this caused by my graphics card not being recognised?
[22:52] <Scell> I know, hes on ubuntu 10.04
[22:52] <dj_segfault> Scell: That line should work in there?  Thanks.
[22:52] <bazhang> !grub2 | scell dj_segfault
[22:53] <Fluid_Mantis> However, I am baffled as to why I am constantly being told I am running out of disk space.
[22:53] <Fluid_Mantis> I installed from the live CD and I've installed a few programs.
[22:53] <WeThePeople> how do i find a .flv i downloaded with youtube-dl
[22:53] <Fluid_Mantis> This would hardly fill up a 5GB~ partition.
[22:53] <Scell> Ah, my bad thought it was there for 10.04
[22:54] <gunarm> does a mdadm resync always take hours even if there is no problem?  it doesnt just resync errors is what I asking?  does the length of time indicate the number of problems?
[22:54] <dj_segfault> Fluid_Mantis: Try running "df -h" which will give a clear picture of just how much space there is left
[22:55] <W4sp> Troy^: Why not just ssh...?
[22:55] <Fluid_Mantis> Dj_FlyBy: Thanks, I'll give it a try.
[22:55] <iamsuperuser> http://i.imgur.com/qiq6m.png Any ideas on how to fix?
[22:55] <dj_segfault> Fluid_Mantis: Then to find out what's taking up all the space, there's a program called FileLight that will let you drill down and show a pie chart of what directories are the biggest hogs
[22:55] <lauratika> im trying to install ubuntu 12.04 along side a windows 7 laptop via usb stick, i created in windows 7 a partiton 50 gb to install ubuntu, now when i go to gparted to tell ubuntu to install on the unused space i just created i wont aloud me to edit the tab. any idead why this?
[22:56] <iamsuperuser> *the appeareance is my problem http://i.imgur.com/qiq6m.png
[22:56] <iamsuperuser> I tried changing theme, nothing changes, just the windows.
[22:57] <Fluid_Mantis> Dj_FlyBy: /dev/sda5 is 5.5GB and apparently 5.2GB is used, somehow. I'll delete a couple of videos I have which are just a couple of hundred megabytes, then I'll try out that program. Cheers.
[22:58] <iamsuperuser> please help?
[22:58] <bazhang> !helpme | iamsuperuser
[22:59] <iamsuperuser> :(
[23:00] <neyder_> hi, i'm having troubles with turtleart, stand alone of the sugar learning enviroment. My system is in spanish, but it aunchs in english,
[23:00] <neyder_> how can I launch in spanish?
[23:01] <Argat> sudo hat
[23:04] <WeThePeople> i am having trouble finding the .flv i downloaded with youtube-dl, and i did check the dir. youtube-dl
[23:05] <Fluid_Mantis> Dj_FlyBy: This program seems great for handling my data and I'll be sure to use it, except it is listing every partition EXCEPT the one Ubuntu is installed on. As well as my SSD I also have connected an internal hard drive (1.5TB) and an external hard drive (2GB). The SSD it is installed on is 128GB, most of which is taken up by the Windows 7 partition (which I will be reduced in size soon) and the 5GB Ubuntu partitio
[23:05] <Fluid_Mantis> n.
[23:06] <Fluid_Mantis> So what would I type in as the directory for my primary system partition?
[23:06] <neyder_> WeThePeople, its on the same directory of you launch the comman
[23:06] <Fluid_Mantis> 2TB I meant for the external :P
[23:06] <neyder_> in the terminal write pwd
[23:07] <WeThePeople> neyder_, i dont understand that
[23:07] <iamsuperuser> http://i.imgur.com/qiq6m.png gnome menu.. How do I make it black instead of grey?
[23:07] <neyder_> WeThePeople, tell me how do you use youtube-dl
[23:08] <crimsonmane> neyder_: you forgot to use sudo
[23:08]  * neyder_ I'm spanish speaker, so give me a chance when my english is very poor
[23:08] <WeThePeople> neyder_, i type 'sudo youtube-dl --max-quality -i (url)' and it downloads the vid
[23:08] <crimsonmane> "sudo tell me" :) lol
[23:08] <neyder_> crimsonmane, sudo isn't necessary in this case
[23:08] <crimsonmane> make me a sandwhich
[23:08] <WeThePeople> i use sudo anyway
[23:08] <crimsonmane> sudo make me a sandwhich
[23:08] <neyder_> crimsonmane, i got! LoL
[23:09] <crimsonmane> lol
[23:09] <bazhang> crimsonmane, thats enough
[23:09] <bjv> I cannot open files by clicking on them, does nautilus have a touch feature that is not working?
[23:09] <bjv> I can click to open files until i use my touchscreen, then suddenly i cannot open with either mouse or screen
[23:09] <neyder_> WeThePeople, so then you can't delete the files without sudo again, sudo is for administrative taks
[23:10] <bjv> i notice that mouse to left opens the launcher, until i use my touchscreen.  then mousing to left does not open it, only 4-finger touch gesture
[23:10] <bjv> are there settings for this stuff? i;d like to be able to use nautilus ... and not have to log out, back in every time i use my touchscreen
[23:10] <Fluid_Mantis> Anybody got any clues for my issue? Thanks.
[23:10] <neyder_> WeThePeople, befo you type and "Enter"  'sudo youtube-dl --max-quality -i (url)' please type pwd
[23:10] <neyder_> 'pwd'
[23:10] <peterrus> bjv, have a look at geis
[23:10] <peterrus> and what it does
[23:10] <WeThePeople> yes i have to type my pw
[23:11] <peterrus> !tell geis
[23:11] <neyder_> no your password
[23:11] <neyder_> the command name is: pwd
[23:11] <peterrus> how to tell ?
[23:11] <neyder_> that stands for present workin directory
[23:11] <neyder_> LoL
[23:12] <dj_segfault> Fluid_Mantis: Sorry I was elsewhere.  You can pass where to start to FileLight
[23:13] <dj_segfault> Fluid_Mantis: So if you're talking about your root partition, it would be "filelight /"
[23:13] <WeThePeople> neyder_, here is the output  [youtube] Setting language
[23:13] <WeThePeople> [youtube] FKScJ9ueC2U: Downloading video webpage
[23:13] <WeThePeople> [youtube] FKScJ9ueC2U: Downloading video info webpage
[23:13] <WeThePeople> [youtube] FKScJ9ueC2U: Extracting video information
[23:13] <WeThePeople> [download] Destination: FKScJ9ueC2U.flv
[23:13] <WeThePeople> [download] 100.0% of 116.79M at   55.65k/s ETA 00:00
[23:13] <FloodBot1> WeThePeople: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:13] <WeThePeople> hi
[23:13] <bjv> peterrus: i dont have GEIS installed, but it looks like 'ginn' is on 12.04?
[23:13] <WeThePeople> where do i find those modes?
[23:14] <Darkenvy> I enabled the propriatery drivers but I cant get opengl to work
[23:14] <wmarone> has anyone else run into a problem with the tightvncserver package in 12.04?
[23:14] <nandersson> Hi, got a kernel-update and suddenly vboxguest.ko was nowhere to be found in /lib/modules/$(uname -r). My virtual guest is back to static 800x600 or whatever the standard resolution is. What to do? Revert to older kernel? Can I force dkms to compile? Wait for upgrade?
[23:14] <Darkenvy> I also dont have an official 'openGL' test
[23:15] <Fluid_Mantis> dj_segfault: Thanks. It's scanning the files now. Why would the proc folder be reported to have a total size of 141TB though?
[23:15] <neyder_> WeThePeople, as i can see, better user a firefox addon 'easy youtube downloader'
[23:15] <Fluid_Mantis> I've been reading about the different directories.
[23:15] <W4sp> WeThePeople: That's usually /help mode ;-)
[23:16] <Fluid_Mantis> proc is information about processes, right? I don't see why it would be 141TB nevertheless.
[23:16] <dj_segfault> Fluid_Mantis: proc is not a real filesystem, and is not really taking up disk space.  It's a convenience mechanism to get information from the kernel
[23:16] <Fluid_Mantis> dj_segfault: Ah, okay. :)
[23:16] <dj_segfault> Fluid_Mantis: All the same that seems excessive.  Where did you see that number?  In filelight?
[23:17] <dj_segfault> Fluid_Mantis: I think you found your culprit.  Proc should not show up in anything as taking up disk space
[23:18] <dj_segfault> Fluid_Mantis: How did you get 141TB for proc?  Using what command?
[23:18] <Fluid_Mantis> dj_segfault: No, I've been investigating using Ubuntu's file browser. I simply viewed the properties.
[23:18] <Fluid_Mantis> dj_segfault: Also, it seems most of the 5TB partition is in usr, so I think now it seems that is the culprit, but I'm not sure what. I'm looking into this...
[23:20] <dj_segfault> Fluid_Mantis: You sure it's not showing it taking 141GB or 141 MB?
[23:20] <neyder_> how can I launch a python app in a locale different than english
[23:20] <wmarone> recommendations for a vncserver whose package works? tightvncserver seems to be broken
[23:20] <neyder_> because, i'm trying turtleart in an spanish system but it loads in english.
[23:20] <Fluid_Mantis> dj_segfault: Certain.
[23:20] <Fluid_Mantis> dj_segfault: "88,501 items, totalling 140.7 TB
[23:20] <Fluid_Mantis> (some contents unreadable)"
[23:21] <dj_segfault> Fluid_Mantis: You must have one hell of a power supply to power 141TB of hard driv espace ;)
[23:21] <Fluid_Mantis> dj_segfault: Haha, you would think so.
[23:21] <Fluid_Mantis> dj_segfault: Perhaps my SSD is faulty... :/
[23:21] <foul_owl> Hello. I am having a problem with OpenGL. I have an Nvidia GeForce 6600 video card that does not seem to have OpenGL acceleration enabled. Running glxgears gives me a black windowed gtk window. This problem occurred with the default nouveau drivers for 12.04, and again when I uninstalled nouveau and installed the latest Nvidia drivers from the Nvidia driver ppa (304.37) Trying to run other OpenGL apps (such as openarena) produces a black screen 
[23:21] <W4sp> neyder_: export ENVIRONMENT=en_US <command>
[23:21] <dj_segfault> Fluid_Mantis: If you're bootin' then it's workin'
[23:21] <Darkenvy> EXACT SAME ISSUE AS FOUL
[23:22] <W4sp> neyder_: where en_US your desired locale is.
[23:22] <maze> Hi
[23:22] <neyder_> es_PE
[23:22] <neyder_> doesn't work
[23:23] <Fluid_Mantis> dj_segfault: Yeah, I guess. But something went terribly wrong with Windows 7 when I migrated from my HDD to SSD. Some of my data got corrupted for a completely unknown reason. I've only had the SSD for a few weeks.
[23:23] <dj_segfault> Fluid_Mantis: Your best bet is to point FileLight at your home directory and find out what's using the space under there
[23:23] <ironhalik> Is there a way to disable the edge stickiness with launcher auto-hiding?
[23:23] <dj_segfault> Does anyone know if there's an equivalent of SMART for SSDs for Fluid_Mantis?
[23:24] <Fluid_Mantis> dj_segfault: Yes, I think I'll point it to usr since home in usr is only like 20MB or so.
[23:24] <maze> Is there anyway I can connect to my apple time machine and backup a few files on ubuntu??
[23:24] <dj_segfault> Fluid_Mantis:  You could boot off of CD and run fsck on the SSD to verify it
[23:24] <Dian|Busy> maze: you mean Time /Capsule?/
[23:24] <trism> ironhalik: there is an option in System Settings/Displays or in ccsm on the unity experimental tab if you are using proprietary drivers
[23:24] <Fluid_Mantis> dj_segfault: Isn't it bad to do a check disk on an SSD?
[23:25] <W4sp> neyder_: You can try LC_CTYPE, LC_TYPE, all in one line. There are side effects using LC_ALL as it is often not read by progs.
[23:25] <Dian|Busy> !pm | maze
[23:25] <dj_segfault> Fluid_Mantis: I think so, but would you rather deteriorate it a bit and find out if its good or bad, or have it fail on you unexpectedly?
[23:25] <W4sp> neyder_: You can do this all in one line followed by the program name.
[23:26] <neyder_> export LC_TYPE=es_ES turtleart
[23:26] <neyder_> but turtleart doesn't launch
[23:27] <Fluid_Mantis> dj_segfault: Good point. Well, I checked out usr with FileLight and most of it is taken up by lib and share.
[23:27] <ironhalik> trism: ah! At last, fully usable multi-monitor setup! Thanks
[23:27] <ironhalik> a lot
[23:27] <ironhalik> :>
[23:27] <dj_segfault> Fluid_Mantis: That makes sense.  When you said "user" I thought you meant your home directory
[23:28] <W4sp> !pm | Treaver:
[23:29] <Fluid_Mantis> dj_segfault: A lot of lib is "i386-linux-gnu" and "x86_64-linux-gnu", I believe this is from when I installed Wine and support for 32-bit Linux executables. I didn't realise they'd take up quite a lot of data.
[23:29] <Dian|Busy> !trailing-colon | W4sp
[23:29] <Dian|Busy> ...darn.
[23:30] <Dian|Busy> In any case, if you use a pipe like that, W4sp, it automatically appends a colon. So you don't need to. XD
[23:30] <W4sp> Dian|Busy: I got it.  :-)
[23:30] <bleemoo> Hello folks who know more about maintaining Ubuntu than I do :) When returning from suspend, about a third of the time, with no discernible pattern, my system boots normally, and then, anywhere from 10 to 45 seconds later, freezes and xorg reboots (or at least that's what I think happens). I'm not even sure what to do to diagnose this further, so any help would be much appreciated.
[23:30] <bleemoo> I am running 12.04 on a Toshiba laptop.
[23:30] <W4sp> !language | Dian|Busy
[23:31] <Dian|Busy> Yes, like that.
[23:31] <W4sp> Dian|Busy: Lovely. Thanks a lot.
[23:31] <Dian|Busy> (I'm assuming you didn't actually mean that for me, lol)
[23:32] <stef1a> hey, i'm using 12.04 and my sound doesn't work through my headphones
[23:32] <ehma> hello, running ubuntu 10.04 (lucid). lately I've been receiving a 'power manager not responding error' at the login screen + seemingly random freeze ups within 10 minutes of booting up. am googling to see what some of the causes might be, but offhand would anyone have any suggestions for things to check ?
[23:32] <Seednode> Do you have it enabled in PulseAudio?
[23:32] <Fluid_Mantis> dj_segfault: Also, the fonts folder is 200MB. Seems unusual to me. Well, I guess all I can do for now is just uninstall a few unnecessary things and sort out my partitions. I just wish I had learned that uninstalling things that rely on a lot of packages using sudo would also break anything else that used the packages. :P
[23:33] <stef1a> Seednode: me?
[23:33] <Seednode> Yeah.
[23:33] <dj_segfault> Fluid_Mantis: Yes.  If you use "synaptic" to install and uninstall you can clearly see the dependent packages
[23:33] <Gallomimia> what is Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (as opposed to something without LTS?)
[23:33] <Seednode> Long-term support.
[23:34] <Seednode> It'll be supported for the next 3 (or 5?) years.
[23:34] <Gallomimia> right. nothing i need to concern myself with. thanks for that
[23:34] <Dian|Busy> lolz
[23:34] <Seednode> Just download the LTS, if it's an option.
[23:35] <KM0201> Gallomimia: non-lts releases are only supported with updates for 18mo...
[23:35] <MoneyDust> !lts
[23:35] <KM0201> the current version is 12.04, which is an LTS, so if you want a non-lts version, you'll have to wait till 12.10 or go back to 11.10 (which I wouldn't recommend)
[23:36] <Fluid_Mantis> dj_segfault: I just installed it. Seems very useful. Thanks again for all of your help.
[23:36] <Dian|Busy> ...why would anyone want a non-LTS?
[23:36] <dj_segfault> Fluid_Mantis: No problem
[23:36] <KM0201> Dian|Busy: i only use a LTS when it's the current stable... i never stick w/ LTS versions.
[23:36] <dj_segfault> Dian|Busy: Because some people want the latest and greatest instead of super stable
[23:36] <KM0201> LTS does not mean super stable
[23:37] <KM0201> thats the biggest problem, is most people don't even know what the hell an LTS is
[23:37] <KM0201> saying it's "super stable" is just not right... if you used ubuntu 8.04, you'd surely know that.
[23:39] <Dian|Busy> But if the latest version is an LTS, why would you go back to an earlier version just to avoid LTS?
[23:39] <MoneyDust> !ot
[23:39] <MoneyDust> KM0201  please stop being so negative
[23:39] <ChTiPowA> hi. Please i need help : You know i'm using Xchat to speak on IRC. Sometimes when my desktop is refreshed, the "Xchat" tray icon has gone but the process is still alive. So everytimes it happens, i need to kill his ID before to start Xchat again. Is there any way to bring foreground Xchat instead to kill it ? Thx :)
[23:39] <KM0201> Dian|Busy: now thats dumb... i never suggested such a thing
[23:39] <ai6pg> LTS = Long term support
[23:39] <KM0201> MoneyDust: i';m not being negative at all... learn english
[23:39] <Dian|Busy> KM0201: I know that now...I wasn't thinking about version numbers, just the LTS XD
[23:40] <fort> bo
[23:40] <MoneyDust> KM0201  please, discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:40] <bleemoo> Not sure if my message went through. Am having intermittent problems with xorg restarting after returning from suspend, running 12.04 on a Toshiba laptop. Not sure what to do to fix this, or even diagnose what's actually wrong.
[23:40] <KM0201> whatever... discussing an LTS is certainly on topic here
[23:41] <stef1a> hey, i'm using 12.04 and my sound doesn't work through my headphones
[23:41] <KM0201> ChTiPowA: what do you mean "when you rdesktop is refreshed"
[23:41] <stef1a> and i dunno how to check through pulseaudio
[23:42] <ChTiPowA> KM0201: actually i'm talking about my DESKTOP not "rdesktop" which is another tool out of subject. Well its easy, i press ALT + F2 then i write R to refresh the desktop when i changed any settings
[23:42] <KM0201> .. ok
[23:43] <foul_owl> Hello. I am having a problem with OpenGL. I have an Nvidia GeForce 6600 video card that does not seem to have OpenGL acceleration enabled. Running glxgears gives me a black windowed gtk window. This problem occurred with the default nouveau drivers for 12.04, and again when I uninstalled nouveau and installed the latest Nvidia drivers from the Nvidia driver ppa (304.37) Trying to run other OpenGL apps (such as openarena) produces a black screen 
[23:43] <KM0201> stef1a: try this... sudo apt-get install pavucontrol   once it installs, open pavucontrol , click on the "configuration" tab... and try making some changes to the profile, and see if you can get your headphones to work
[23:43] <djbpython> so i rebooted my system and now the UI looks like windows 95. not sure if its a ubuntu or gnome thing
[23:43] <KM0201> looks like win 95?
[23:44] <ChTiPowA> KM0201: So the main problem is easy : Xchat tray icon just disappears ... but the process of Xchat is still alive and running. I need so to bring the window in foreground with any solution you might teach me to avoid to killl the ID instead.
[23:44] <KM0201> !screenshot | djbpython
[23:44] <KM0201> ChTiPowA: no idea.
[23:44] <Fluid_Mantis> A quick question. It's not Ubuntu-related, but it should be easy and quick to answer. I believe that one of my RAM sticks is faulty. I'm going to try removing them and running scans using memtest and Dell's own diagnostic utilities. My computer has four RAM bays. Does it make any difference if I have, say, just two RAM sticks in and one is in RAM bay 1, and one 4, as opposed to them next to each other in RAM bays 1 an
[23:44] <Fluid_Mantis> d 2?
[23:45] <KM0201> it might make a minor difference, but not much....
[23:46] <erpo> Fluid_Mantis: It shouldn't make any difference for a reliability test. It will make a difference for performance if you have more than one memory channel.
[23:46] <dj_segfault> Fluid_Mantis: On most motherboards it DOES matter.  the manual will tell you which slots to use in pairs, sometimes the sticks must be identical too
[23:46] <djbpython> KM0201, yea, the toolbar and menu bar are a bland gray with odd shadowing
[23:46] <djbpython> KM0201, http://imagebin.org/225164
[23:46] <Fluid_Mantis> On the motherboard itself two of the bays are black, and two of them blue if memory serves.
[23:46] <Fluid_Mantis> So...
[23:46] <bleemoo> Are my messages going through at all?
[23:46] <djbpython> KM0201, it looked a lot different than that before
[23:46] <Fluid_Mantis> 1 = black, 2 = blue, 3 = black, 4 = blue.
[23:47] <j5tc3> why i can't add panel in Ubuntu Precise ?
[23:47] <Fluid_Mantis> The four sticks I have are 4GB each and all the same type.
[23:47] <KM0201> djbpython: that looks like gnome 2.x  click System/About Gnome  and see what version it tells you it is... what version of ubuntu are you using?
[23:47] <stef1a> I've tried messing around in Alsamixer and pavucontrol, but cannot get my headphones to work.
[23:47] <djbpython> KM0201, gnome 2.32.1 ubuntu 11.04
[23:47] <KM0201> djbpython: so whats the question?.
[23:48] <KM0201> i believe 11.04 used gnome by default.
[23:48] <Darkenvy> I cannot get openGL working with nvidia. help?
[23:48] <djbpython> KM0201, the menu bar and task bar did not look like this before I rebooted
[23:48] <Darkenvy> I can get a game running under wine but I cant get opengl running
[23:48] <Darkenvy> compiz also seems to be running
[23:48] <djbpython> plus, my terminal has a different color scheme as well, something changed, not sure what
[23:48] <KM0201> djbpython: you mean where it says application/places/system?
[23:48] <Fluid_Mantis> It's too bad I don't have the manual anymore with this Dell system, although I could try and find it online. I guess I could just try switching them around. I would hope it's not actually one of the RAM bays that is faulty.
[23:49] <djbpython> KM0201, right, and the bottom tool bar too
[23:49] <djbpython> where my applications list is
[23:49] <KM0201> djbpython: honestly, it looksl ike i always remember gnome 2.x
[23:49] <ChTiPowA> Nobody knows how to bring a process to foreground ???
[23:50] <djbpython> KM0201, right, but i must have been able to change it at some point, not sure how to change it back
[23:51] <KM0201> djbpython: well, i don't know what you had before, so i'm not sure... i would log out, and at the login screen, click Sessions, and click some of the other options, and see if it takes you back to what you want
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> ChTiPowA: use fg
[23:53] <ChTiPowA> ActionParsnip: i tried but it never works
[23:53] <Fluid_Mantis> Oh, and on a sidenote, this is the error I got when testing all four of the RAM sticks at once with Dell's own diagnostic tests: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVuWVfZ7Do4
[23:53] <bleemoo> Hello. I am having intermittent problems with xorg restarting after suspend.
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> ChTiPowA: try:   fg 1
[23:54] <Fluid_Mantis> An integrity error probably means one of them is bust.
[23:54] <ChTiPowA> ActionParsnip: when Xchat is hidden and his icon has disappeared, i'm not able to call back Xchat to put it foreground with FG, the terminal says : "no jobs" but there is one and i given him the good ID i can check with PS or the Monitor System
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> ChTiPowA: then its not backgrounded in terminal, if you use ALT+TAB does it show ok?
[23:55] <ChTiPowA> ActionParsnip: i did also some tests with BG to do the reverse it never works too... I don't understand how to  use.
[23:55] <ChTiPowA> No it doesn't
[23:55] <W4sp> ChTiPowA: fg only works within the shell session as it brings into fg a process of that shell.
[23:55] <ChTiPowA> If the application was hidden on Systray
[23:55] <ChTiPowA> then there is no way to call it back
[23:55] <ChTiPowA> W4sp: okay but Xchat is not on terminal its on the desktop
[23:56] <stef1a> I've tried messing around in Alsamixer and pavucontrol, but cannot get my headphones to work.
[23:56] <Jordan_U> ChTiPowA: fg has nothing to do with bringing a GUI application to the foreground.
[23:56] <W4sp> ChTiPowA: Exactly, and you normally don't start your xchat from command line. Hence fg is useless.
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> ChTiPowA: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[23:57] <W4sp> What version ov xchat do you have anyway. There are two a) xchat and b)xchat-gnome. Also, what DE do you use?
[23:57] <Ahriman> Sup guys
[23:57] <ChTiPowA> I use Linuxmint based on the latest version of Ubuntu, so its the same ways. I asked also on Linuxmint help channel but no one is able to help me...
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> ChTiPowA: not supported here mate
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> ChTiPowA: mint has its own support
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> !mint
[23:58] <bazhang> !mintsupport > ChTiPowA
[23:58] <wsirc_8644875> hi, im trying to install ubuntu in my notebook, with windows xp previous instaled, how to proceed?
[23:58] <wsirc_8644875> hi, im trying to install ubuntu in my notebook, with windows xp previous instaled, how to proceed?
[23:58] <wsirc_8644875> hi, im trying to install ubuntu in my notebook, with windows xp previous instaled, how to proceed?
[23:58] <wsirc_8644875> hi, im trying to install ubuntu in my notebook, with windows xp previous instaled, how to proceed?
[23:58] <FloodBot1> wsirc_8644875: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:58] <wsirc_8644875> hi, im trying to install ubuntu in my notebook, with windows xp previous instaled, how to proceed
[23:58] <wsirc_8644875> hi, im trying to install ubuntu in my notebook, with windows xp previous instaled, how to proceed
[23:58] <wsirc_8644875> hi, im trying to install ubuntu in my notebook, with windows xp previous instaled, how to proceed
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> wsirc_8644875: doing that makes people want to help you less,not more
[23:59] <ChTiPowA> ActionParsnip: As i said its the same way... Its still ubuntu and its just a problem with Ubuntu
[23:59] <Fluid_Mantis> Wow.
[23:59] <bazhang> ChTiPowA, no.
[23:59] <Ebbers> ActionParsnip, I loaded Ubuntu 10.04 and now audacity works great! VLC has same problem
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> ChTiPowA: mint isn't supported here
[23:59] <ChTiPowA> The problem affects only Xchat
[23:59] <wsirc_8644875> hi, im trying to install ubuntu in my notebook with windows xp previous instaled, how to proceed?
[23:59] <wsirc_8644875> hi, im trying to install ubuntu in my notebook with windows xp previous instaled, how to proceed?
[23:59] <wsirc_8644875> hi, im trying to install ubuntu in my notebook with windows xp previous instaled, how to proceed?
[23:59] <wsirc_8644875> hi, im trying to install ubuntu in my notebook with windows xp previous instaled, how to proceed?
[23:59] <wsirc_8644875> hi, im trying to install ubuntu in my notebook with windows xp previous instaled, how to proceed?
[23:59] <ChTiPowA> Not the others applications
[23:59] <FloodBot1> wsirc_8644875: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> ChTiPowA: ubuntu is based on debian but if you ask for ubuntu support in #debian you wil be pointed here
[23:59] <ChTiPowA> Ubuntu and Linuxmint have the same depots
[23:59] <bazhang> ChTiPowA, ask in #xchat then. MINT is not supported here