| drmacro | anybody know what mechanism causes the MOBO onboard audio i/o to show up in qjackctrl patch when started and have pulse concatenated as part of each channel name? | 15:22 |
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| ailo | drmacro: I'm not sure what you mean? "system" is your audio device. "pulseaudio"(or whatever it says), is a software module, sinking PA to jack, not to an audio device. to make use of it, you need to set PA to use jack sinks in PA settings | 15:28 |
| ailo | What makes that possible is pulseaudio-module-jack. YOu need jackd2 and qjackctl set to support dbus | 15:28 |
| ailo | When you use PA with the jack sinks, PA is not controlling the audio device. Jack is | 15:30 |
| drmacro | ailo: with my AF12 plugged in I get two folders on both sides of the patch window in qjackctrl. one folder is name firewire_pcm, the other is PulseAudio_Jack (both sink source respectively) And the are default patches between them. I want to control what patches get made and which pulse sources/sinks show up. | 15:36 |
| ailo | drmacro: To control which PA sources/sinks show, you'll need to configure PA somehow. Don't know at which level. See about PA modules, and get the source to pulseaudio-module-jack | 15:37 |
| ailo | As for the connections.. Maybe find a way to make the PA sink not autoconnect, and use the patchbay in qjackctl to remember connections | 15:38 |
| drmacro | ailo: which ones show up is not a big issue, where they auto patched is. I want to duplicate a system I built on another debian distro. basically I need to control where some other sources/sinks get patched, I suspect the scripts I have will add my stuff to the patch window and patch them accordingly, but I'm trying to understand how the PA sink gets there and how to control it | 15:45 |
| ailo | drmacro: Check out patchage too. Don't know if it's better at remembering connections (and keeping the non saved connections disconnected) | 15:45 |
| dn4 | I downloaded the iso from a torrent and it said the file was not mountable and I could not burn it | 15:45 |
| dn4 | 64 bit | 15:45 |
| ailo | dn4: Let me check.. | 15:45 |
| smartboyhw | dn4: Check the hash using MD5 | 15:46 |
| ailo | drmacro: The PA sink is created with pulseaudio-module-jack. | 15:46 |
| ailo | It's set to auto create the sinks, if dbus says jack is active | 15:46 |
| ailo | drmacro: If you start jackd instead of jackdbus, the module will not know that jack is active, so the sinks are not created | 15:47 |
| ailo | drmacro: You can still create your own sinks manually | 15:47 |
| smartboyhw | dn4: If you are here, check the MD5SUM hash against the downloaded iso first | 15:47 |
| ailo | drmacro: qjackctl starts jackdbus by default. If you don't want that, just disable the dbus option in qjackctl settings, under "Misc" | 15:48 |
| drmacro | ailo: what does dbus do for me? | 15:48 |
| ailo | drmacro: Or if you want dbus, but not the module. Uninstall the module, and make the sinks manually | 15:48 |
| ailo | drmacro: dbus is a system for making applications aware of each other. | 15:49 |
| ailo | drmacro: To learn how to make the sink/source for PA, check the source for pulseaudio-module-jack. You can get it with: apt-get source pulseaudio-module-jack | 15:50 |
| ailo | Seems like cdimage.ubuntu.com is not up right now | 15:51 |
| smartboyhw | ailo: It IS up | 15:52 |
| azm | its down for me too | 15:52 |
| azm | torrent and direct links | 15:52 |
| azm | that why I came :) Hi! | 15:52 |
| smartboyhw | Well, it works for me | 15:52 |
| ailo | It takes time before it works everywhere | 15:53 |
| ailo | dn4: What was the file name? | 15:54 |
| smartboyhw | But it's so slow it doesn't make sense, BTW | 15:56 |
| azm | is torrent faster ? | 15:56 |
| smartboyhw | azm: It is | 15:56 |
| smartboyhw | azm: You want amd64 torrent for precise or quantal? | 15:57 |
| azm | I dont know, probably the last release please | 15:57 |
| azm | precise | 15:57 |
| azm | * last stable ;) | 15:58 |
| smartboyhw | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/12.04/release/ubuntustudio-12.04-dvd-amd64.iso.torrent | 15:59 |
| smartboyhw | azm: That is the torrent link | 15:59 |
| azm | thnkx, downloading.. | 16:00 |
| smartboyhw | :) | 16:00 |
| azm | havent checked xfce release sofar | 16:01 |
| ailo | azm: It's also possible to install using the ubuntu alternate CD. Install in expert more | 16:02 |
| ailo | mode* | 16:02 |
| azm | well I dont have any ubuntu anymore probably.. | 16:03 |
| azm | but good to hear | 16:04 |
| ailo | when you install with the ubuntu alternate CD, in expert mode, you can choose which distro you install out of all the derivatives | 16:04 |
| ailo | So, it's not only for Ubuntu | 16:05 |
| smartboyhw | It's for ALL, including X/L/K/Eduubuntu and Ubuntu Studio | 16:06 |
| smartboyhw | Did I miss anything?:) | 16:06 |
| dn4 | ugh I have to redownload it now | 16:07 |
| smartboyhw | dn4: Why? | 16:07 |
| dn4 | I got angry and deleted it all last night in rage | 16:07 |
| smartboyhw | uh...... | 16:08 |
| smartboyhw | :_( | 16:08 |
| smartboyhw | Anyway, I'm off to bed | 16:08 |
| ailo | oh, the downside using ubuntu alternate is probably not getting some settings in order though | 16:10 |
| ailo | realtime privilege probably | 16:10 |
| len-dt | ailo, Ya, jack installs the right file in /etc/security/limits.d/, but I have helped a few people put their user in audio group. | 16:40 |
| ctmakro | hi everyone i m from china and new to linux. | 17:07 |
| len-dt | ctmakro, and? | 17:08 |
| len-dt | it sounds like you have a question | 17:08 |
| ctmakro | the description shown during ubuntu studio installation suggest me to join this channel | 17:09 |
| ctmakro | this is the first time for me to use IRC, just curious | 17:09 |
| len-dt | Ok. You will generally find it quiet here. | 17:09 |
| len-dt | but if you have questions feel free to ask. just be aware it may take a while to get an answer | 17:10 |
| len-dt | We are all on different time zones. | 17:10 |
| len-dt | Welcome to Ubuntu Studio too. | 17:10 |
| ctmakro | well i used to do a lot of photoshopping, blender animation creating, movie editing, VFX......all kind of stuff and recently i tried Ubuntu desktop and it made me feel bad. | 17:11 |
| ctmakro | so i just downloaded the ubuntu studio | 17:12 |
| ctmakro | and amazed by the pre-installed softwares. | 17:12 |
| len-dt | Desktop seems to work well for average use... but not so much for audio and other art. | 17:13 |
| len-dt | That is why our ISO is bigger than the rest | 17:13 |
| ctmakro | certainly. i burn the ISO into a SDCard | 17:14 |
| ctmakro | and now trying to install it onto a USB stick. | 17:14 |
| len-dt | Yes SD cards and USB sticks are the best way to go | 17:14 |
| len-dt | I have used both for testing. | 17:14 |
| ctmakro | may i know your profession? | 17:16 |
| ctmakro | it seems that you are well experienced. | 17:16 |
| len-dt | I was trained in broadcast electronics, but am working as a mail delivery person right now. | 17:16 |
| ctmakro | that's what probably wont happen in china, seriously. | 17:17 |
| ctmakro | no offence, i thought you are a programmer/graphic designer, something like that. | 17:18 |
| len-dt | I have done some programing, but not a lot. | 17:19 |
| ctmakro | well i think...just introduce myself. i was born 1993, been playing/working/creating with computer for some 11years. | 17:21 |
| ctmakro | win 98 Me XP... all the way up to win7 but now i just decided to try my luck on Linux. | 17:22 |
| ctmakro | as an amateur photographer and a CG enthusiast, I cant find anything better than Ubuntu Studio in the Linux world. | 17:24 |
| ctmakro | it's 01:25 now in Guangzhou, gotta go to sleep. people here on IRC are very kind! | 17:26 |
| len-dt | ok bye now. | 17:27 |
| newagepunk | hi @ all | 19:33 |
| newagepunk | is anybody here? | 19:41 |
| ailo | newagepunk: There usually always is :) | 20:21 |
| newagepunk | nice :) | 20:23 |
| ailo | newagepunk: Not that much action on this channel mostly, though. A few questions asked each day. #opensourcemusicians is a bit more crowded. | 20:26 |
| newagepunk | i'm there too, but I have specific questions about ubuntustudio | 20:27 |
| newagepunk | I installed it the last days, and there are some very ...uuh... lets say un-nice things :-) | 20:28 |
| newagepunk | now, i'd like to give a feedback, but don't know exactly where... | 20:28 |
| newagepunk | ...and if this is maybe already solved.... | 20:28 |
| len-dt | newagepunk, please list them | 20:29 |
| newagepunk | the thing, that a standard user is not in the audio-group.... it's not the best joice for an audio related distro... | 20:30 |
| len-dt | Which version of ubuntustudio are you using? | 20:31 |
| newagepunk | I also installed KXStudio, witch is something like an mod-pack for ubuntustudio... and there it's getting verry worse because of this... | 20:31 |
| newagepunk | 12.04 | 20:31 |
| len-dt | The installing user on 12.04 hosuld be in the audio group. | 20:31 |
| newagepunk | are you sure? | 20:32 |
| len-dt | They have on all of my tests on two machines. | 20:32 |
| len-dt | Yes, there where problems with that on 11.10 | 20:32 |
| newagepunk | hmmm... | 20:32 |
| len-dt | that was one of the first things fixed in 12.04 | 20:32 |
| len-dt | Out of the box, jack should start realtime. | 20:33 |
| newagepunk | it does with the live-dvd... | 20:34 |
| newagepunk | ...but now i'm unsure... | 20:34 |
| len-dt | newagepunk, the biggest issue I am aware of if that sometimes jackdbus exits badly. | 20:35 |
| newagepunk | maybe i got it wrong... in the KXStudio a standard user isn't in the audio group, thats for sure... (I installed it yesterday...) | 20:36 |
| newagepunk | hmm.... | 20:36 |
| newagepunk | maybe I will re-install it again to see :) | 20:37 |
| len-dt | If you install ubuntustudio on top of vanilla there may be a problem, but a frsh ubuntustudio install should be ok | 20:37 |
| len-dt | *fresh | 20:37 |
| newagepunk | i'm sorry if I was wrong... I will test it again... of course fresh, maestro :) | 20:38 |
| len-dt | OK. | 20:38 |
| DataJuggler | now, I just did a fresh installation of Ubuntustudio 12.04 | 23:20 |
| DataJuggler | p-nap@pnap-P170HMx:~$ cat /etc/group | grep audio | 23:21 |
| DataJuggler | audio:x:29:pulse | 23:21 |
| DataJuggler | p-nap@pnap-P170HMx:~$ cat /etc/group | grep p-nap | 23:21 |
| DataJuggler | adm:x:4:p-nap | 23:21 |
| DataJuggler | cdrom:x:24:p-nap | 23:21 |
| DataJuggler | sudo:x:27:p-nap | 23:21 |
| DataJuggler | dip:x:30:p-nap | 23:21 |
| DataJuggler | plugdev:x:46:p-nap | 23:21 |
| DataJuggler | lpadmin:x:109:p-nap | 23:21 |
| DataJuggler | p-nap:x:1000: | 23:21 |
| DataJuggler | sambashare:x:123:p-nap | 23:21 |
| DataJuggler | So the standard-user after a fresh installation is not in the audio-group!!! (at least in my case) | 23:22 |
| DataJuggler | and there's another thing: the keyboard layout ist not as i choosed in the installer... so i have to know where all the special characters are in... | 23:26 |
| DataJuggler | well, I do... but I can imagine that this is very annoying to a newbe... especially if you have to type your super-duper password with extra-special-characters and can't see what you are typing :P | 23:29 |
| DataJuggler | it could be a result of that I have German as Language and German (Swiss) at keyboard-layout... witch is quiet different | 23:32 |
| DataJuggler | hope this was the right place to share my experience.... otherwise sorry, and let me know where I should share instead... | 23:35 |
| DataJuggler | ...but now I have to go to sleep!!... let me know if you need more information about this fresh installation... | 23:37 |
| DataJuggler | good night... | 23:38 |
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