[15:22] anybody know what mechanism causes the MOBO onboard audio i/o to show up in qjackctrl patch when started and have pulse concatenated as part of each channel name? [15:28] drmacro: I'm not sure what you mean? "system" is your audio device. "pulseaudio"(or whatever it says), is a software module, sinking PA to jack, not to an audio device. to make use of it, you need to set PA to use jack sinks in PA settings [15:28] What makes that possible is pulseaudio-module-jack. YOu need jackd2 and qjackctl set to support dbus [15:30] When you use PA with the jack sinks, PA is not controlling the audio device. Jack is [15:36] ailo: with my AF12 plugged in I get two folders on both sides of the patch window in qjackctrl. one folder is name firewire_pcm, the other is PulseAudio_Jack (both sink source respectively) And the are default patches between them. I want to control what patches get made and which pulse sources/sinks show up. [15:37] drmacro: To control which PA sources/sinks show, you'll need to configure PA somehow. Don't know at which level. See about PA modules, and get the source to pulseaudio-module-jack [15:38] As for the connections.. Maybe find a way to make the PA sink not autoconnect, and use the patchbay in qjackctl to remember connections [15:45] ailo: which ones show up is not a big issue, where they auto patched is. I want to duplicate a system I built on another debian distro. basically I need to control where some other sources/sinks get patched, I suspect the scripts I have will add my stuff to the patch window and patch them accordingly, but I'm trying to understand how the PA sink gets there and how to control it [15:45] drmacro: Check out patchage too. Don't know if it's better at remembering connections (and keeping the non saved connections disconnected) [15:45] I downloaded the iso from a torrent and it said the file was not mountable and I could not burn it [15:45] 64 bit [15:45] dn4: Let me check.. [15:46] dn4: Check the hash using MD5 [15:46] drmacro: The PA sink is created with pulseaudio-module-jack. [15:46] It's set to auto create the sinks, if dbus says jack is active [15:47] drmacro: If you start jackd instead of jackdbus, the module will not know that jack is active, so the sinks are not created [15:47] drmacro: You can still create your own sinks manually [15:47] dn4: If you are here, check the MD5SUM hash against the downloaded iso first [15:48] drmacro: qjackctl starts jackdbus by default. If you don't want that, just disable the dbus option in qjackctl settings, under "Misc" [15:48] ailo: what does dbus do for me? [15:48] drmacro: Or if you want dbus, but not the module. Uninstall the module, and make the sinks manually [15:49] drmacro: dbus is a system for making applications aware of each other. [15:50] drmacro: To learn how to make the sink/source for PA, check the source for pulseaudio-module-jack. You can get it with: apt-get source pulseaudio-module-jack [15:51] Seems like cdimage.ubuntu.com is not up right now [15:52] ailo: It IS up [15:52] its down for me too [15:52] torrent and direct links [15:52] that why I came :) Hi! [15:52] Well, it works for me [15:53] It takes time before it works everywhere [15:54] dn4: What was the file name? [15:56] But it's so slow it doesn't make sense, BTW [15:56] is torrent faster ? [15:56] azm: It is [15:57] azm: You want amd64 torrent for precise or quantal? [15:57] I dont know, probably the last release please [15:57] precise [15:58] * last stable ;) [15:59] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/12.04/release/ubuntustudio-12.04-dvd-amd64.iso.torrent [15:59] azm: That is the torrent link [16:00] thnkx, downloading.. [16:00] :) [16:01] havent checked xfce release sofar [16:02] azm: It's also possible to install using the ubuntu alternate CD. Install in expert more [16:02] mode* [16:03] well I dont have any ubuntu anymore probably.. [16:04] but good to hear [16:04] when you install with the ubuntu alternate CD, in expert mode, you can choose which distro you install out of all the derivatives [16:05] So, it's not only for Ubuntu [16:06] It's for ALL, including X/L/K/Eduubuntu and Ubuntu Studio [16:06] Did I miss anything?:) [16:07] ugh I have to redownload it now [16:07] dn4: Why? [16:07] I got angry and deleted it all last night in rage [16:08] uh...... [16:08] :_( [16:08] Anyway, I'm off to bed [16:10] oh, the downside using ubuntu alternate is probably not getting some settings in order though [16:10] realtime privilege probably [16:40] ailo, Ya, jack installs the right file in /etc/security/limits.d/, but I have helped a few people put their user in audio group. [17:07] hi everyone i m from china and new to linux. [17:08] ctmakro, and? [17:08] it sounds like you have a question [17:09] the description shown during ubuntu studio installation suggest me to join this channel [17:09] this is the first time for me to use IRC, just curious [17:09] Ok. You will generally find it quiet here. [17:10] but if you have questions feel free to ask. just be aware it may take a while to get an answer [17:10] We are all on different time zones. [17:10] Welcome to Ubuntu Studio too. [17:11] well i used to do a lot of photoshopping, blender animation creating, movie editing, VFX......all kind of stuff and recently i tried Ubuntu desktop and it made me feel bad. [17:12] so i just downloaded the ubuntu studio [17:12] and amazed by the pre-installed softwares. [17:13] Desktop seems to work well for average use... but not so much for audio and other art. [17:13] That is why our ISO is bigger than the rest [17:14] certainly. i burn the ISO into a SDCard [17:14] and now trying to install it onto a USB stick. [17:14] Yes SD cards and USB sticks are the best way to go [17:14] I have used both for testing. [17:16] may i know your profession? [17:16] it seems that you are well experienced. [17:16] I was trained in broadcast electronics, but am working as a mail delivery person right now. [17:17] that's what probably wont happen in china, seriously. [17:18] no offence, i thought you are a programmer/graphic designer, something like that. [17:19] I have done some programing, but not a lot. [17:21] well i think...just introduce myself. i was born 1993, been playing/working/creating with computer for some 11years. [17:22] win 98 Me XP... all the way up to win7 but now i just decided to try my luck on Linux. [17:24] as an amateur photographer and a CG enthusiast, I cant find anything better than Ubuntu Studio in the Linux world. [17:26] it's 01:25 now in Guangzhou, gotta go to sleep. people here on IRC are very kind! [17:27] ok bye now. [19:33] hi @ all [19:41] is anybody here? [20:21] newagepunk: There usually always is :) [20:23] nice :) [20:26] newagepunk: Not that much action on this channel mostly, though. A few questions asked each day. #opensourcemusicians is a bit more crowded. [20:27] i'm there too, but I have specific questions about ubuntustudio [20:28] I installed it the last days, and there are some very ...uuh... lets say un-nice things :-) [20:28] now, i'd like to give a feedback, but don't know exactly where... [20:28] ...and if this is maybe already solved.... [20:29] newagepunk, please list them [20:30] the thing, that a standard user is not in the audio-group.... it's not the best joice for an audio related distro... [20:31] Which version of ubuntustudio are you using? [20:31] I also installed KXStudio, witch is something like an mod-pack for ubuntustudio... and there it's getting verry worse because of this... [20:31] 12.04 [20:31] The installing user on 12.04 hosuld be in the audio group. [20:32] are you sure? [20:32] They have on all of my tests on two machines. [20:32] Yes, there where problems with that on 11.10 [20:32] hmmm... [20:32] that was one of the first things fixed in 12.04 [20:33] Out of the box, jack should start realtime. [20:34] it does with the live-dvd... [20:34] ...but now i'm unsure... [20:35] newagepunk, the biggest issue I am aware of if that sometimes jackdbus exits badly. [20:36] maybe i got it wrong... in the KXStudio a standard user isn't in the audio group, thats for sure... (I installed it yesterday...) [20:36] hmm.... [20:37] maybe I will re-install it again to see :) [20:37] If you install ubuntustudio on top of vanilla there may be a problem, but a frsh ubuntustudio install should be ok [20:37] *fresh [20:38] i'm sorry if I was wrong... I will test it again... of course fresh, maestro :) [20:38] OK. [23:20] now, I just did a fresh installation of Ubuntustudio 12.04 [23:21] p-nap@pnap-P170HMx:~$ cat /etc/group | grep audio [23:21] audio:x:29:pulse [23:21] p-nap@pnap-P170HMx:~$ cat /etc/group | grep p-nap [23:21] adm:x:4:p-nap [23:21] cdrom:x:24:p-nap [23:21] sudo:x:27:p-nap [23:21] dip:x:30:p-nap [23:21] plugdev:x:46:p-nap [23:21] lpadmin:x:109:p-nap [23:21] p-nap:x:1000: [23:21] sambashare:x:123:p-nap [23:22] So the standard-user after a fresh installation is not in the audio-group!!! (at least in my case) [23:26] and there's another thing: the keyboard layout ist not as i choosed in the installer... so i have to know where all the special characters are in... [23:29] well, I do... but I can imagine that this is very annoying to a newbe... especially if you have to type your super-duper password with extra-special-characters and can't see what you are typing :P [23:32] it could be a result of that I have German as Language and German (Swiss) at keyboard-layout... witch is quiet different [23:35] hope this was the right place to share my experience.... otherwise sorry, and let me know where I should share instead... [23:37] ...but now I have to go to sleep!!... let me know if you need more information about this fresh installation... [23:38] good night...