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benjoDoes anyone know why after I would get severe mouse lag after waking the machine up from idle?00:06
benjoSorry, let me rephrase.. Does anyone know why I would get severe mouse lag after waking the machine up from idle?00:10
LessPlasticsJust recently installed Xubuntu 12.04 on a machine with 4096 MiB of RAM. How come Xubuntu only recognizes 3889 MiB?01:29
LessPlastics(x86-64 arch was used)01:29
holsteinLessPlastics: that sounds correct to me.. could be some shared with graphics01:34
GridCubehow do i do this: set LANG and LC_ALL to C01:35
GridCube?01:35
MurtaughLessPlastics: you likely have a cheap ram card, it's capacity is listed based on units of 1000, not 102402:37
LessPlasticsMurtaugh: It's not02:38
Murtaughthat works out to 17mb above the number you gave, so some is likely being reserved for hardware or video use02:38
LessPlasticsMurtaugh: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682023112102:38
LessPlasticsAh02:38
LessPlasticsI see02:38
Murtaughconverting 1000 based to 1024, i got 3906MiB02:39
Murtaughit seems to be rather hit and miss whether ram is listed with MiB or MB (I call it drive maker's megabyte :P)02:40
LessPlasticshahaha02:41
Murtaughfor megabytes, MiB is about 95% of MB, for GiB it's only about 93%02:43
Murtaugh90% fo TiB >_<02:47
codemaniacsome cool xubu themes from repos , anyone suggest ?03:33
GridCubeMurtaugh, thats actually SI compatible unity "mega"byte03:36
xubuntu555Hello.  Can someone enlighten me as to the difference between Xubuntu desktop vs. alternate?06:28
pleia2alternate is a text (ncurses) based installer06:30
pleia2typically used for systems which can't boot the graphical one for whatever reason06:31
xubuntu555thanks ever so much06:31
pleia2sure :)06:31
xubuntu555Does anyone know of an interactive environment that teaches UNIX?06:31
xubuntu555Like a MUDD for learning unix?06:31
xubuntu555"Okay, not try doing blablablabla"06:32
xubuntu555"Now you will learn how to copy files.  Type 'cp blah blah..."06:32
xubuntu555Exercises in a totally immersive environment that is non-distracting by default.06:32
xubuntu555I get to the prompt and I don't know what to do.06:33
xubuntu555I don't know what the commands are and how they work and the man is too cryptic and filled with jargon06:33
xubuntu555There are no simple examples.06:33
pleia2I think you'll find most of us here are linux users, so this isn't really the place to ask about unix06:33
xubuntu555Let me rephrase the question then.06:34
xubuntu555An livecd that boots into a shell06:34
xubuntu555that then teaches you how to use all of the text commands, or at least the important ones06:34
pleia2you're looking for tutorials on learning how to use the shell in, what, xubuntu?06:34
xubuntu555So that you can become a serious user of the text shell06:34
xubuntu555I need a tight loop of feedback06:35
pleia2if you want someone to teach you, you may consider looking at your local university06:35
xubuntu555I have no money.06:35
pleia2a lot have introduction to linux classes which will teach the basics06:35
xubuntu555Can't afford it and I can't go at an arbitrary pace.06:35
pleia2not sure where you'll find someone to hand hold you through learning for free06:36
pleia2there are plenty of online tutorials and videos06:36
pleia2just google for "linux class" or "shell tutorial"06:36
pleia2but I think most people learn by knowing what they want to do (copy a file, upgrade from the command line) and doing a google search for how to do that specific thing06:37
xubuntu555Anyone here have any experience with BSD?06:43
pleia2xubuntu555: please use #xubuntu-offtopic for non-xubuntu support questions :)06:45
xubuntu555Thank you.  I'm out.06:46
jackkHello, can someone tell me if this Linux has flash preinstalled? I am a huge fan of porn and would like to know.10:51
knomejackk, please notice this is strictly a family-friendly channel.10:53
jackkknome: Is it?10:53
jackkI am very sorry.10:53
knomejackk, and no, xubuntu doesn't come preinstalled with flash because the license issues10:53
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tech1i have ubuntustudio which uses xfce4,  i put "emacs.antialias: false" in the file [~/.Xdefaults] and run the command "xrdb ~/.Xdefaults" in my terminal but it has no effect13:22
tech1and yes i restarted emacs13:23
tech1oh wait13:25
tech1hmm still dosnt work13:27
holsteinin what way?.. what are you wanting?13:27
tech1im wanting to disable antialiasing in emacs, by putting "emacs.antialias:  false" in the file [~.Xdefaults]... which i am told will do this13:28
tech1because emacs takes the OS's full antialiasing -but without the OS's "hinting" which makes it very blurry13:29
SysiGUI emacs?13:29
tech1i can turn off antialiasing in my OS completley which makes the text inside the programs look fine, but then the window/program titles with random font sizes are unreadable13:30
tech1yeh gui emacs2313:30
Sysitech1: I'd try putting it to ~/.Xresources too and logging out and back in13:33
Sysitech1: I found this line to put in there: emacs*font:  FontName-12:antialias=false13:35
tech1ok thanks ill try them13:40
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silverghostguys i have a funny question why not make lubuntu based of debian directly instead of ubuntu :D15:48
baizonsilverghost: why not? :)15:49
baizonsilverghost: ubuntu = preconfigured, just install and use15:49
silverghosti mean xubuntu xD15:49
silverghostbut people have many problems with ubuntu as a base15:49
baizonon debian you have to configure your system15:49
baizonsilverghost: who has problems?15:50
baizoni had many problems with linux mint and debian15:50
baizonxubuntu = zero15:50
silverghosti think if  xubuntu choose debian as a base it can become a top 10 distro15:50
baizonbut debian will use xfce as default DE now15:51
* drc searches his pockets for troll biscuits...finds none :(15:51
silverghostbcoz xfce is the best desktop env of 2012 :)15:51
baizonso we will see if your right15:51
Sysixubuntu is based on debian, there's just load of ubuntu guys packaging newer software15:51
silverghostnope i mean base it of debian stable15:52
Sysidebian stable is old, duh15:52
silverghostubuntu - sid unstable branch od debian15:52
baizonsilverghost: debian stable is to old15:52
silverghostbackports :)15:52
silverghosti have quit using ubuntu since 11.04 lol15:53
baizonsilverghost: xfce stable on debian is 4.615:53
baizonand we got 4.10 right now ;)15:53
silverghostnewest always does not mean good ;)15:53
silverghostdon't take it otherwise am just giving an opinion :)15:54
baizonof course15:54
Sysiglad there's debian for you and xubuntu for the rest of us15:54
silverghostactually am angry with ubuntu and its community :)15:54
silverghosti have nothing against xubuntu coz i like xfce :)15:55
baizonhow come?15:55
Sysiwe're kinda part of ubuntu community15:55
silverghostubuntu irc - chaos15:55
silverghostubuntu - arrogant fanboys15:55
silverghostxD15:55
baizonthat are two different things15:56
baizonubuntu as OS and ubuntu as community15:56
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silverghostno i gice u an example when ubuntu was no.1 in distrowatch few years ago lol they were happy now min overtook them they bash distrowatch lol15:56
baizondistrowatch is broken15:57
baizonubuntu got more users than mint15:57
silverghosteven u see google trends mint is still the no.1 distro15:57
Sysithis is getting badly offtopic15:57
baizonindeed Sysi, im out then :)15:57
silverghostdo u have offtopic15:58
recon_lapwho cares, they all work :)15:58
baizonof course15:58
xubuntu609a lil question guys17:08
xubuntu147hello?18:03
SkippersBossHow can we help you today18:04
xubuntu147I have xubuntu 12.04.  I've been trying to change the text in etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf but I can't save the changes.  Perhaps I don't have the right permissions, or something.  Any ideas?18:05
drcgksudo leafpad /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf18:06
xubuntu147Thanks.  That worked.  But it doesn't work when I use Thunar.  I wonder why that is?18:08
drcYou are using thunar as a user not using sudo :)18:08
drcIf you did gksudo thunar, it would work18:09
xubuntu147That kind of makes sense!  Can you suggest documentation for a bigger picture?18:10
drcYou want a linux primer?18:10
xubuntu147Free, if possible.18:10
drcActually I don't have a URL handy...Anybody?18:11
David-Axubuntu147: do you know about file permissions in unix and linux? someone owns a file, and the owner can decide what other persons may do with it. normally you owns the file in /home/yourname and "root" owns system files, in /etc, /bin, etc.18:11
xubuntu147I can sort of follow that, but I need to chew it over for a while.  Thanks!  I'll google the primer.18:12
xubuntu147bye18:15
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daedaluzwhere's the config file for xfce notifications? the control panel doesn't seem to work, always being 8 seconds20:24
xubuntu282hello everybody!20:52
David-Ahi20:55
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UnknownForkIs xfconf included in 12.04?21:42
Unit193Task: xubuntu-desktop, so yep.21:43
UnknownForkin what directory is it located in?21:43
UnknownForkMY touchpad doesn't work and I need to configure it21:44
Unit193dpkg -L xfconf  and would you be looking for /usr/lib/xfce4/xfconf ?21:45
UnknownForkkk21:47
UnknownForkthanks21:47
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Jotek_Hello everybody, is here any Tibia player?22:37
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Moonshiner24mUKJotek, no but ican help23:41

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