=== metzthepest is now known as metasansana [00:06] Does anyone know why after I would get severe mouse lag after waking the machine up from idle? [00:10] Sorry, let me rephrase.. Does anyone know why I would get severe mouse lag after waking the machine up from idle? [01:29] Just recently installed Xubuntu 12.04 on a machine with 4096 MiB of RAM. How come Xubuntu only recognizes 3889 MiB? [01:29] (x86-64 arch was used) [01:34] LessPlastics: that sounds correct to me.. could be some shared with graphics [01:35] how do i do this: set LANG and LC_ALL to C [01:35] ? [02:37] LessPlastics: you likely have a cheap ram card, it's capacity is listed based on units of 1000, not 1024 [02:38] Murtaugh: It's not [02:38] that works out to 17mb above the number you gave, so some is likely being reserved for hardware or video use [02:38] Murtaugh: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231121 [02:38] Ah [02:38] I see [02:39] converting 1000 based to 1024, i got 3906MiB [02:40] it seems to be rather hit and miss whether ram is listed with MiB or MB (I call it drive maker's megabyte :P) [02:41] hahaha [02:43] for megabytes, MiB is about 95% of MB, for GiB it's only about 93% [02:47] 90% fo TiB >_< [03:33] some cool xubu themes from repos , anyone suggest ? [03:36] Murtaugh, thats actually SI compatible unity "mega"byte [06:28] Hello. Can someone enlighten me as to the difference between Xubuntu desktop vs. alternate? [06:30] alternate is a text (ncurses) based installer [06:31] typically used for systems which can't boot the graphical one for whatever reason [06:31] thanks ever so much [06:31] sure :) [06:31] Does anyone know of an interactive environment that teaches UNIX? [06:31] Like a MUDD for learning unix? [06:32] "Okay, not try doing blablablabla" [06:32] "Now you will learn how to copy files. Type 'cp blah blah..." [06:32] Exercises in a totally immersive environment that is non-distracting by default. [06:33] I get to the prompt and I don't know what to do. [06:33] I don't know what the commands are and how they work and the man is too cryptic and filled with jargon [06:33] There are no simple examples. [06:33] I think you'll find most of us here are linux users, so this isn't really the place to ask about unix [06:34] Let me rephrase the question then. [06:34] An livecd that boots into a shell [06:34] that then teaches you how to use all of the text commands, or at least the important ones [06:34] you're looking for tutorials on learning how to use the shell in, what, xubuntu? [06:34] So that you can become a serious user of the text shell [06:35] I need a tight loop of feedback [06:35] if you want someone to teach you, you may consider looking at your local university [06:35] I have no money. [06:35] a lot have introduction to linux classes which will teach the basics [06:35] Can't afford it and I can't go at an arbitrary pace. [06:36] not sure where you'll find someone to hand hold you through learning for free [06:36] there are plenty of online tutorials and videos [06:36] just google for "linux class" or "shell tutorial" [06:37] but I think most people learn by knowing what they want to do (copy a file, upgrade from the command line) and doing a google search for how to do that specific thing [06:43] Anyone here have any experience with BSD? [06:45] xubuntu555: please use #xubuntu-offtopic for non-xubuntu support questions :) [06:46] Thank you. I'm out. [10:51] Hello, can someone tell me if this Linux has flash preinstalled? I am a huge fan of porn and would like to know. [10:53] jackk, please notice this is strictly a family-friendly channel. [10:53] knome: Is it? [10:53] I am very sorry. [10:53] jackk, and no, xubuntu doesn't come preinstalled with flash because the license issues === SeH[Connect] is now known as SeH [13:22] i have ubuntustudio which uses xfce4, i put "emacs.antialias: false" in the file [~/.Xdefaults] and run the command "xrdb ~/.Xdefaults" in my terminal but it has no effect [13:23] and yes i restarted emacs [13:25] oh wait [13:27] hmm still dosnt work [13:27] in what way?.. what are you wanting? [13:28] im wanting to disable antialiasing in emacs, by putting "emacs.antialias: false" in the file [~.Xdefaults]... which i am told will do this [13:29] because emacs takes the OS's full antialiasing -but without the OS's "hinting" which makes it very blurry [13:29] GUI emacs? [13:30] i can turn off antialiasing in my OS completley which makes the text inside the programs look fine, but then the window/program titles with random font sizes are unreadable [13:30] yeh gui emacs23 [13:33] tech1: I'd try putting it to ~/.Xresources too and logging out and back in [13:35] tech1: I found this line to put in there: emacs*font: FontName-12:antialias=false [13:40] ok thanks ill try them === IdleOne is now known as Guest336 === Guest336 is now known as IdleOne [15:48] guys i have a funny question why not make lubuntu based of debian directly instead of ubuntu :D [15:49] silverghost: why not? :) [15:49] silverghost: ubuntu = preconfigured, just install and use [15:49] i mean xubuntu xD [15:49] but people have many problems with ubuntu as a base [15:49] on debian you have to configure your system [15:50] silverghost: who has problems? [15:50] i had many problems with linux mint and debian [15:50] xubuntu = zero [15:50] i think if xubuntu choose debian as a base it can become a top 10 distro [15:51] but debian will use xfce as default DE now [15:51] * drc searches his pockets for troll biscuits...finds none :( [15:51] bcoz xfce is the best desktop env of 2012 :) [15:51] so we will see if your right [15:51] xubuntu is based on debian, there's just load of ubuntu guys packaging newer software [15:52] nope i mean base it of debian stable [15:52] debian stable is old, duh [15:52] ubuntu - sid unstable branch od debian [15:52] silverghost: debian stable is to old [15:52] backports :) [15:53] i have quit using ubuntu since 11.04 lol [15:53] silverghost: xfce stable on debian is 4.6 [15:53] and we got 4.10 right now ;) [15:53] newest always does not mean good ;) [15:54] don't take it otherwise am just giving an opinion :) [15:54] of course [15:54] glad there's debian for you and xubuntu for the rest of us [15:54] actually am angry with ubuntu and its community :) [15:55] i have nothing against xubuntu coz i like xfce :) [15:55] how come? [15:55] we're kinda part of ubuntu community [15:55] ubuntu irc - chaos [15:55] ubuntu - arrogant fanboys [15:55] xD [15:56] that are two different things [15:56] ubuntu as OS and ubuntu as community === recon69_lap is now known as recon_lap [15:56] no i gice u an example when ubuntu was no.1 in distrowatch few years ago lol they were happy now min overtook them they bash distrowatch lol [15:57] distrowatch is broken [15:57] ubuntu got more users than mint [15:57] even u see google trends mint is still the no.1 distro [15:57] this is getting badly offtopic [15:57] indeed Sysi, im out then :) [15:58] do u have offtopic [15:58] who cares, they all work :) [15:58] of course [17:08] a lil question guys [18:03] hello? [18:04] How can we help you today [18:05] I have xubuntu 12.04. I've been trying to change the text in etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf but I can't save the changes. Perhaps I don't have the right permissions, or something. Any ideas? [18:06] gksudo leafpad /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf [18:08] Thanks. That worked. But it doesn't work when I use Thunar. I wonder why that is? [18:08] You are using thunar as a user not using sudo :) [18:09] If you did gksudo thunar, it would work [18:10] That kind of makes sense! Can you suggest documentation for a bigger picture? [18:10] You want a linux primer? [18:10] Free, if possible. [18:11] Actually I don't have a URL handy...Anybody? [18:11] xubuntu147: do you know about file permissions in unix and linux? someone owns a file, and the owner can decide what other persons may do with it. normally you owns the file in /home/yourname and "root" owns system files, in /etc, /bin, etc. [18:12] I can sort of follow that, but I need to chew it over for a while. Thanks! I'll google the primer. [18:15] bye === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [20:24] where's the config file for xfce notifications? the control panel doesn't seem to work, always being 8 seconds [20:52] hello everybody! [20:55] hi === default is now known as Guest58640 [21:42] Is xfconf included in 12.04? [21:43] Task: xubuntu-desktop, so yep. [21:43] in what directory is it located in? [21:44] MY touchpad doesn't work and I need to configure it [21:45] dpkg -L xfconf and would you be looking for /usr/lib/xfce4/xfconf ? [21:47] kk [21:47] thanks === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [22:37] Hello everybody, is here any Tibia player? === `mOOse` is now known as m00se === default is now known as Guest84162 [23:41] Jotek, no but ican help