[00:06] <benjo> Does anyone know why after I would get severe mouse lag after waking the machine up from idle?
[00:10] <benjo> Sorry, let me rephrase.. Does anyone know why I would get severe mouse lag after waking the machine up from idle?
[01:29] <LessPlastics> Just recently installed Xubuntu 12.04 on a machine with 4096 MiB of RAM. How come Xubuntu only recognizes 3889 MiB?
[01:29] <LessPlastics> (x86-64 arch was used)
[01:34] <holstein> LessPlastics: that sounds correct to me.. could be some shared with graphics
[01:35] <GridCube> how do i do this: set LANG and LC_ALL to C
[01:35] <GridCube> ?
[02:37] <Murtaugh> LessPlastics: you likely have a cheap ram card, it's capacity is listed based on units of 1000, not 1024
[02:38] <LessPlastics> Murtaugh: It's not
[02:38] <Murtaugh> that works out to 17mb above the number you gave, so some is likely being reserved for hardware or video use
[02:38] <LessPlastics> Murtaugh: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231121
[02:38] <LessPlastics> Ah
[02:38] <LessPlastics> I see
[02:39] <Murtaugh> converting 1000 based to 1024, i got 3906MiB
[02:40] <Murtaugh> it seems to be rather hit and miss whether ram is listed with MiB or MB (I call it drive maker's megabyte :P)
[02:41] <LessPlastics> hahaha
[02:43] <Murtaugh> for megabytes, MiB is about 95% of MB, for GiB it's only about 93%
[02:47] <Murtaugh> 90% fo TiB >_<
[03:33] <codemaniac> some cool xubu themes from repos , anyone suggest ?
[03:36] <GridCube> Murtaugh, thats actually SI compatible unity "mega"byte
[06:28] <xubuntu555> Hello.  Can someone enlighten me as to the difference between Xubuntu desktop vs. alternate?
[06:30] <pleia2> alternate is a text (ncurses) based installer
[06:31] <pleia2> typically used for systems which can't boot the graphical one for whatever reason
[06:31] <xubuntu555> thanks ever so much
[06:31] <pleia2> sure :)
[06:31] <xubuntu555> Does anyone know of an interactive environment that teaches UNIX?
[06:31] <xubuntu555> Like a MUDD for learning unix?
[06:32] <xubuntu555> "Okay, not try doing blablablabla"
[06:32] <xubuntu555> "Now you will learn how to copy files.  Type 'cp blah blah..."
[06:32] <xubuntu555> Exercises in a totally immersive environment that is non-distracting by default.
[06:33] <xubuntu555> I get to the prompt and I don't know what to do.
[06:33] <xubuntu555> I don't know what the commands are and how they work and the man is too cryptic and filled with jargon
[06:33] <xubuntu555> There are no simple examples.
[06:33] <pleia2> I think you'll find most of us here are linux users, so this isn't really the place to ask about unix
[06:34] <xubuntu555> Let me rephrase the question then.
[06:34] <xubuntu555> An livecd that boots into a shell
[06:34] <xubuntu555> that then teaches you how to use all of the text commands, or at least the important ones
[06:34] <pleia2> you're looking for tutorials on learning how to use the shell in, what, xubuntu?
[06:34] <xubuntu555> So that you can become a serious user of the text shell
[06:35] <xubuntu555> I need a tight loop of feedback
[06:35] <pleia2> if you want someone to teach you, you may consider looking at your local university
[06:35] <xubuntu555> I have no money.
[06:35] <pleia2> a lot have introduction to linux classes which will teach the basics
[06:35] <xubuntu555> Can't afford it and I can't go at an arbitrary pace.
[06:36] <pleia2> not sure where you'll find someone to hand hold you through learning for free
[06:36] <pleia2> there are plenty of online tutorials and videos
[06:36] <pleia2> just google for "linux class" or "shell tutorial"
[06:37] <pleia2> but I think most people learn by knowing what they want to do (copy a file, upgrade from the command line) and doing a google search for how to do that specific thing
[06:43] <xubuntu555> Anyone here have any experience with BSD?
[06:45] <pleia2> xubuntu555: please use #xubuntu-offtopic for non-xubuntu support questions :)
[06:46] <xubuntu555> Thank you.  I'm out.
[10:51] <jackk> Hello, can someone tell me if this Linux has flash preinstalled? I am a huge fan of porn and would like to know.
[10:53] <knome> jackk, please notice this is strictly a family-friendly channel.
[10:53] <jackk> knome: Is it?
[10:53] <jackk> I am very sorry.
[10:53] <knome> jackk, and no, xubuntu doesn't come preinstalled with flash because the license issues
[13:22] <tech1> i have ubuntustudio which uses xfce4,  i put "emacs.antialias: false" in the file [~/.Xdefaults] and run the command "xrdb ~/.Xdefaults" in my terminal but it has no effect
[13:23] <tech1> and yes i restarted emacs
[13:25] <tech1> oh wait
[13:27] <tech1> hmm still dosnt work
[13:27] <holstein> in what way?.. what are you wanting?
[13:28] <tech1> im wanting to disable antialiasing in emacs, by putting "emacs.antialias:  false" in the file [~.Xdefaults]... which i am told will do this
[13:29] <tech1> because emacs takes the OS's full antialiasing -but without the OS's "hinting" which makes it very blurry
[13:29] <Sysi> GUI emacs?
[13:30] <tech1> i can turn off antialiasing in my OS completley which makes the text inside the programs look fine, but then the window/program titles with random font sizes are unreadable
[13:30] <tech1> yeh gui emacs23
[13:33] <Sysi> tech1: I'd try putting it to ~/.Xresources too and logging out and back in
[13:35] <Sysi> tech1: I found this line to put in there: emacs*font:  FontName-12:antialias=false
[13:40] <tech1> ok thanks ill try them
[15:48] <silverghost> guys i have a funny question why not make lubuntu based of debian directly instead of ubuntu :D
[15:49] <baizon> silverghost: why not? :)
[15:49] <baizon> silverghost: ubuntu = preconfigured, just install and use
[15:49] <silverghost> i mean xubuntu xD
[15:49] <silverghost> but people have many problems with ubuntu as a base
[15:49] <baizon> on debian you have to configure your system
[15:50] <baizon> silverghost: who has problems?
[15:50] <baizon> i had many problems with linux mint and debian
[15:50] <baizon> xubuntu = zero
[15:50] <silverghost> i think if  xubuntu choose debian as a base it can become a top 10 distro
[15:51] <baizon> but debian will use xfce as default DE now
[15:51]  * drc searches his pockets for troll biscuits...finds none :(
[15:51] <silverghost> bcoz xfce is the best desktop env of 2012 :)
[15:51] <baizon> so we will see if your right
[15:51] <Sysi> xubuntu is based on debian, there's just load of ubuntu guys packaging newer software
[15:52] <silverghost> nope i mean base it of debian stable
[15:52] <Sysi> debian stable is old, duh
[15:52] <silverghost> ubuntu - sid unstable branch od debian
[15:52] <baizon> silverghost: debian stable is to old
[15:52] <silverghost> backports :)
[15:53] <silverghost> i have quit using ubuntu since 11.04 lol
[15:53] <baizon> silverghost: xfce stable on debian is 4.6
[15:53] <baizon> and we got 4.10 right now ;)
[15:53] <silverghost> newest always does not mean good ;)
[15:54] <silverghost> don't take it otherwise am just giving an opinion :)
[15:54] <baizon> of course
[15:54] <Sysi> glad there's debian for you and xubuntu for the rest of us
[15:54] <silverghost> actually am angry with ubuntu and its community :)
[15:55] <silverghost> i have nothing against xubuntu coz i like xfce :)
[15:55] <baizon> how come?
[15:55] <Sysi> we're kinda part of ubuntu community
[15:55] <silverghost> ubuntu irc - chaos
[15:55] <silverghost> ubuntu - arrogant fanboys
[15:55] <silverghost> xD
[15:56] <baizon> that are two different things
[15:56] <baizon> ubuntu as OS and ubuntu as community
[15:56] <silverghost> no i gice u an example when ubuntu was no.1 in distrowatch few years ago lol they were happy now min overtook them they bash distrowatch lol
[15:57] <baizon> distrowatch is broken
[15:57] <baizon> ubuntu got more users than mint
[15:57] <silverghost> even u see google trends mint is still the no.1 distro
[15:57] <Sysi> this is getting badly offtopic
[15:57] <baizon> indeed Sysi, im out then :)
[15:58] <silverghost> do u have offtopic
[15:58] <recon_lap> who cares, they all work :)
[15:58] <baizon> of course
[17:08] <xubuntu609> a lil question guys
[18:03] <xubuntu147> hello?
[18:04] <SkippersBoss> How can we help you today
[18:05] <xubuntu147> I have xubuntu 12.04.  I've been trying to change the text in etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf but I can't save the changes.  Perhaps I don't have the right permissions, or something.  Any ideas?
[18:06] <drc> gksudo leafpad /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[18:08] <xubuntu147> Thanks.  That worked.  But it doesn't work when I use Thunar.  I wonder why that is?
[18:08] <drc> You are using thunar as a user not using sudo :)
[18:09] <drc> If you did gksudo thunar, it would work
[18:10] <xubuntu147> That kind of makes sense!  Can you suggest documentation for a bigger picture?
[18:10] <drc> You want a linux primer?
[18:10] <xubuntu147> Free, if possible.
[18:11] <drc> Actually I don't have a URL handy...Anybody?
[18:11] <David-A> xubuntu147: do you know about file permissions in unix and linux? someone owns a file, and the owner can decide what other persons may do with it. normally you owns the file in /home/yourname and "root" owns system files, in /etc, /bin, etc.
[18:12] <xubuntu147> I can sort of follow that, but I need to chew it over for a while.  Thanks!  I'll google the primer.
[18:15] <xubuntu147> bye
[20:24] <daedaluz> where's the config file for xfce notifications? the control panel doesn't seem to work, always being 8 seconds
[20:52] <xubuntu282> hello everybody!
[20:55] <David-A> hi
[21:42] <UnknownFork> Is xfconf included in 12.04?
[21:43] <Unit193> Task: xubuntu-desktop, so yep.
[21:43] <UnknownFork> in what directory is it located in?
[21:44] <UnknownFork> MY touchpad doesn't work and I need to configure it
[21:45] <Unit193> dpkg -L xfconf  and would you be looking for /usr/lib/xfce4/xfconf ?
[21:47] <UnknownFork> kk
[21:47] <UnknownFork> thanks
[22:37] <Jotek_> Hello everybody, is here any Tibia player?
[23:41] <Moonshiner24mUK> Jotek, no but ican help