[00:54] <TheMuso> c
[03:33] <pitti> Good morning everyone
[03:33] <ritz> robert_ancell, morning , busy ? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48177
[03:33] <ubot2`> Freedesktop bug 48177 in general "performance of accounts-daemon is very poor" [Normal,New: ]
[03:35] <robert_ancell> ritz, always...
[03:36] <pitti> hey robert_ancell, how are you?
[03:36] <ritz> robert_ancell, oh ! I was wondering what is your opinion about the resolution for this issue.
[03:36] <ritz> I have created a branch on lp for this https://code.launchpad.net/~khadgaray/junk/accountsserivce-limit-user
[03:36] <ritz> where I read of logins.def, and limit it to UID_MAX_G
[03:38] <ritz> and intend to set a variable say overflow, to let lightdm/gdm/and others know to enable manual login
[03:38] <robert_ancell> ritz, what's said in the bug reports makes sense to me. The workaround is probably not to use a user list in lightdm but as pointed out we don't have a good solution for if you haven't configured that
[03:38] <robert_ancell> sounds good
[03:38] <robert_ancell> pitti, hey
[03:39] <robert_ancell> ritz, yeah, if the accounts service dbus interface had a "user overflow" flag or similar I could make lightdm/unity-greeter just go for manual login
[03:39] <ritz> robert_ancell, sweet, thanks. accountsservice/indicator-session and quite a few other apps can be painful
[03:39] <ritz> thanks
[03:39] <robert_ancell> pitti, do you know much about librest?
[03:40]  * pitti looks that up in apt
[03:40] <pitti> never heard of it :(
[03:40] <robert_ancell> pitti, you patched it!
[03:41] <pitti> oh, the thread deprecation
[03:41] <pitti> but AFAICS that's upstream now, we are in sync
[03:42] <robert_ancell> pitti, yeah, I was just doing the update, I'm pretty sure 0.7.90 is a stable release and we should have 0.8.0 by GNOME 3.6
[03:42] <robert_ancell> it's very light on a NEWS file etc
[03:45] <pitti> probably best to have a look at the full diff to get an impression of the type of changes
[03:45] <robert_ancell> yeah I had a look at that, mostly just additions
[03:50] <robert_ancell> Sweetsha1k, hey
[03:51] <robert_ancell> Sweetsha1k, is libreoffice 3.6.0~rc4 == 3.6.0.4?
[03:54] <desrt> yawn!
[03:55] <desrt> robert_ancell: hacking dconf stuff again? :)
[03:55] <robert_ancell> desrt, updating a package to use the latest dconf
[03:55] <desrt> which?
[03:55] <robert_ancell> gnome-terminal
[03:55] <robert_ancell> but that codes just temporary anyway
[03:55] <desrt> surprised to hear that it uses dconf...
[03:55] <robert_ancell> it's a workaround I believe
[04:00] <RAOF> Has anyone else seen a bunch of gconf crashes?
[04:01] <RAOF> Looking like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee/+bug/1036920
[04:01] <ubot2`> RAOF: Error: <Bugtracker.plugin.Launchpad instance at 0xa2d980c> bug 1036920 not found
[04:04] <robert_ancell> RAOF, stop using gconf?
[04:05] <RAOF> robert_ancell: Well, that would be nice, of course.
[04:05] <RAOF> But crashing anything that still uses gconf isn't really a nice deprecation schedule :)
[04:08] <robert_ancell> RAOF, you've discovered our impatient master plan
[04:08] <robert_ancell> RAOF, is anything else still using it for comparison?
[04:08] <RAOF> robert_ancell: Basically everything C#
[04:09] <RAOF> The things that I've noticed doing it are Tomboy & Banshee.
[04:37] <smspillaz> RAOF: only think in PS using gconf at this point is compiz and gtk-window-decorator
[04:37] <smspillaz> both of which are being migrated over to other things as we speak
[04:41] <robert_ancell> smspillaz, migrate faster!
[05:34] <smspillaz> robert_ancell: but tests :(
[05:34] <robert_ancell> well, tests are good too
[05:35] <smspillaz> robert_ancell: turns out that writing tons of GObject boilerplate is really really labor intensive ..
[05:35] <robert_ancell> smspillaz, they invented a language for that. Vala
[05:35] <smspillaz> robert_ancell: "lets rewrite X in vala!"
[05:35] <robert_ancell> :)
[05:36] <smspillaz> "but first, here's a dead horse to beat!"
[07:13] <tkamppeter> RAOF, hi
[07:17] <RAOF> tkamppeter: Hi!
[07:18] <Sweetsha1k> robert_ancell: 3.6.0~rc4 = 3.6.0.4 = 3.6.0 final
[07:18] <Sweetsha1k> Moin all!
[07:22] <tkamppeter> RAOF, you have found some issues in cups.postinst?
[07:23] <RAOF> tkamppeter: Yeah, I did. However, I was misreading the versions we have, so it's not actually a problem.
[07:26] <Sweetsha1k> hmmm, launchpad seems to be full of fail today. every second thing I do there leads to a "we are sorry-screen"
[07:26] <RAOF> tkamppeter: There does still seem to be some sort of regression in cups 1.5.3-0ubuntu3; see the last couple of messages on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/973270
[07:26] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 973270 in system-config-printer "Printer does not provide REQUIRED job history." [High,Fix released]
[07:29] <tkamppeter> RAOF, commented on the postinst stuff in bug 1037845.
[07:29] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1037845 in cups "[precise-updates] Cups 1.5.0-0ubuntu2 has incorrect postinst" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1037845
[07:31] <tkamppeter> RAOF, about bug 973270, the IPP printing should be all OK, but users with problems in IPP printing need to switch to the ipp14 backend as instructed in this bug report (would we need to add something to the Release Notes here?).
[07:31] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 973270 in system-config-printer "Printer does not provide REQUIRED job history." [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/973270
[07:33] <tkamppeter> RAOF, the problem happens with USB printing and only for very few people. It is described by bug 995111.
[07:33] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 995111 in cups "Print failure since upgrade to 12.04" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995111
[07:33] <RAOF> tkamppeter: The reporter is probably seeing a regression of bug 995111 rather than 973270; cups 1.5.3-0ubuntu2 works, cups 1.5.3-0ubuntu3 does not work. Is that what you were expecting?
[07:35] <tkamppeter> RAOF, the problem is in the USB backend. As it is currently, it works for the vast majority of users, but there are some printers for which it needs exception rules. With the transition from 0ubuntu2 to 0ubuntu3 I have changed these exception rules as some users have problems. What happened now is that an additional printer needs its exception rule.
[07:39] <RAOF> tkamppeter: Ok. So, we have two options: revert 0ubuntu3, or do a 0ubuntu4 fixing this regression. How certain are you that you can do a 0ubuntu4 that fixes the regressions from 0ubuntu3?
[07:40] <tkamppeter> RAOF, I am looking now whether something went wrong in my last change of exception rules, especially if it did not break all Samsung printers. If so, we should do another update to 0ubuntu4 to fix the Samsungs. If it is a single Samsung which causes problems we do not necessarily do the fix in 12.04.1.
[07:40] <tkamppeter> RAOF, we should not step back as we then break a bunch of Canon printers.
[07:44] <seb128> hey desktopers
[07:56] <tkamppeter> RAOF, I found it, it actually breaks all Samsungs. How should I proceed to get the fix quickly into 12.04.1?
[08:00] <pitti> bonjour seb128, ça va?
[08:00] <seb128> oh, it's a pitti
[08:01] <seb128> pitti, ca va bien ! how are you?
[08:01] <seb128> had nice holidays?
[08:01] <pitti> seb128: je vais bien, merci! J'ai un bon vacances!
[08:01] <seb128> I saw you started catching up with emails on the crazy whoopsie discussion on -release ;-)
[08:01] <pitti> J'aime Strasbourg
[08:02] <pitti> this was the end of our Bodensee/Rhine tour
[08:02] <pitti> we finished a bit early (returned last Wednesday) and spent the other days on some cleanup, plumbing, swimming, and table tennis
[08:02] <pitti> seb128: heh, yeah; I devote today to bug and mail catch up
[08:03] <seb128> nice
[08:03] <seb128> yeah, Strasbourg is a nice city!
[08:03] <seb128> I hope GUADEC is there next year ;-)
[08:03] <pitti> I'd love that
[08:03] <pitti> (I don't know conjunctives yet)
[08:06] <seb128> pitti, j'aimerai ça ;-)
[08:06] <pitti> seb128: that's one word?
[08:07] <seb128> yes
[08:08] <pitti> seb128: is -rai a standard suffix?
[08:08] <larsu> hey pitti, welcome back
[08:08] <larsu> morning seb128
[08:08] <pitti> i. e. would "Je lisrai" mean "I would read"?
[08:08] <pitti> hey larsu, wie gehts?
[08:09] <pitti> seb128: anyway, that's probably still 10 lessons away :)
[08:09] <larsu> gut! Had one beer too many last night ;)
[08:09] <pitti> larsu: with this heat, one beer is one too many
[08:09] <seb128> pitti, it's one of the standard ones, "je lirais"
[08:10] <pitti> seb128: ah, and "il lirait"?
[08:10] <seb128> Laney, larsu: hey
[08:10] <seb128> pitti, correct
[08:10] <pitti> "vous liraisons"?
[08:10] <pitti> gotcha
[08:10] <larsu> heh
[08:10] <pitti> err, "nous"
[08:10] <seb128> pitti, no, "vous liriez"
[08:10] <pitti> "vous liraisez", I gess
[08:10] <pitti> ah, darn
[08:10] <seb128> "nous lirons"
[08:11] <seb128> "vous lirez" (sorry, typo)
[08:11] <seb128> larsu, did you drink to forget about the coming week madness? :p
[08:12] <seb128> feature freeze, always a "fun" time
[08:12] <larsu> seb128, not really, was in good company (some open source people met in Berlin)
[08:12] <larsu> totally didn't think about ff
[08:12] <seb128> great ;-)
[08:13] <Laney> morning
[08:14] <Laney> my ISP decided to end my connection early :(
[08:16] <seb128> Laney, oh, where are you connecting from? borrowing the neighbour's internet? ;-)
[08:16] <jibel> mvo, logs with assertion error message from autopkgtest for software center: http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/software-center.log
[08:16] <Laney> seb128: I'm tethering with my phone
[08:16] <jibel> messages* even
[08:16] <Laney> get quite a strong 3G signal so it's not so bad
[08:17] <Laney> was supposed to switch to my new house on Thursday, ho hum
[08:18] <seb128> it's 2012 and those companies still don't know how to handle those things correctly...
[08:20] <mvo> jibel: nice! how did you do that?
[08:21] <pitti> hey mvo, how are you?
[08:21] <jibel> mvo, I ran it manually in the lab.
[08:21]  * pitti waves to Laney
[08:21] <Laney> hey pitti, how are you?
[08:21] <Laney> well rested?
[08:22] <pitti> indeed I am! had a really nice holiday
[08:22] <Laney> mentally, if not physically ;-)
[08:22] <pitti> both actually :)
[08:24] <Laney> nice
[08:24] <Laney> so... would you be so kind as to review my l-s branch to kill voodoo in a bit? :P
[08:26] <seb128> Laney, try offering a beer or some cookies to pitti, who knows he might be in good enough mood after his holidays to sign for that review ;-)
[08:26] <mvo> jibel: I have a branch that should add the failure automatically, will be part of the next upload, but thanks, I hope I can fix some on the way to the next upload
[08:26] <mvo> pitti: hey! I'm good, thanks, how are you?
[08:26] <Laney> hehe
[08:27] <seb128> joke aside I don't know who knows about those stuff, I can have a sanity check look but I don't know enough about the topic to do an useful review I think
[08:27] <Laney> well it's only code deletion really
[08:27] <Laney> I just want to make sure I deleted the right bits
[08:28] <pitti> Laney: I can have a look, yes; not that I would know much about fontconfig myself, but two pairs of clueless eyes might still be better than one :)
[08:29] <pitti> mvo: splendid, thanks! I ♥ Bodensee and Rhein :)
[08:31] <mvo> pitti: very nice!
[08:41] <Sweetsha1k> hmm, I need some dbus help: I want to call the IsInstalled method on the org.freedesktop.PackageKit.Query interface. I am giving it a "(ssb)" g_variant and get complains that it wants 3 params, but I am giving 4.
[08:42] <Sweetsha1k> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1156838/ <- here is the code. Any hints?
[08:47] <seb128> Sweetsha1k, what error do you get exactly?
[08:47] <pitti> Sweetsha1k: the g_variant_new looks ok, except for the & before bResult -- does it really want a bool*, not a bool?
[08:48] <Sweetsha1k> error is: "GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.TypeError: TypeError: IsInstalled() takes exactly 3 arguments (4 given)"
[08:49] <pitti> seb128: oh
[08:49] <seb128> python?!
[08:49] <pitti> err, Sweetsha1k
[08:49] <pitti> yeah, c'est aptdaemon
[08:49] <Sweetsha1k> pitti: maybe Im getting that completely wrong ;) the bool is an out param, so giving a bool by value cant work. But appearantly, what I do doesnt work either.
[08:50] <pitti> I don't find any method "IsInstalled" in PK or aptdaemon, hm
[08:51] <Sweetsha1k> this is what dbus-binding-tool generates from the xml: dbus_g_proxy_call (proxy, "IsInstalled", error, G_TYPE_STRING, IN_package_name, G_TYPE_STRING, IN_interaction, G_TYPE_INVALID, G_TYPE_BOOLEAN, OUT_installed, G_TYPE_INVALID);
[08:51] <Sweetsha1k> pitti: its in gnome-packagekit/src/*.xml
[08:52] <pitti> oh, that's the session installer stuff, sorry
[08:52] <pitti> Sweetsha1k: right
[08:52] <pitti>                           in_signature="ss", out_signature="b",
[08:52] <pitti> Sweetsha1k: don't supply the result as a paramter
[08:53] <pitti> Sweetsha1k: you'll get the out ones in the GVariant that g_dbus_proxy_call_sync returns
[08:53] <pitti> i. e. that will be (b)
[08:56] <Sweetsha1k> pitti: ah! doh. In the example I was cargo cult copying, the returnvalue was never used.
[08:56] <Sweetsha1k> pitti: I assume I am owner of the returned g_variant then and need to free it?
[08:57] <pitti> Sweetsha1k: right: Returns :
[08:57] <pitti> NULL if error is set. Otherwise a GVariant tuple with return values. Free with g_variant_unref().
[08:59] <chrisccoulson> good morning everyone
[09:00] <Sweetsha1k> pitti: k, thanks. sexy manual memory management. As you can see I wrote a wrapper right away for that because it scares me.
[09:01] <pitti> "Vala!" *cough*
[09:08] <Sweetsha1k> oh, somebody declared my blogpost as the mission statement. charming!
[09:11] <mlankhorst> absolutely
[09:14] <Sweetsha1k> *grumble* gvariants are no gobjects *grumble*
[09:16] <mlankhorst> that's a weird mission statement to have
[09:17] <Sweetsha1k> mlankhorst: huh?
[09:17]  * mlankhorst declared your irc statement as mission statement!
[09:18] <Sweetsha1k> mlankhorst: ah yeah!
[09:18] <RAOF> Sweetsha1k: It'd be *far* too easy if all of glib had a uniform object structure!
[09:18]  * Sweetsha1k feels observed.
[09:18] <Sweetsha1k> glib is awesome! *thumbs-up*
[09:20] <mlankhorst> You know, I refuse to make that a mission statement out of principle!
[09:20] <Sweetsha1k> g_variant unpacking in glib is just as much fun as com::sun::uno::Any unpacking in LibreOffice.
[09:21] <mlankhorst> Now THAT'S a statement!
[09:21] <chrisccoulson> i wish we could see the names of people who select "Yes, it affects me" button in Launchpad
[09:21] <chrisccoulson> i swear that somebody is just going through every bug and selecting that without even reading the description
[09:22] <chrisccoulson> eg, bug 628631, auto-confirmed at the weekend
[09:22] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 628631 in firefox "var/crash/_usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628631
[09:22] <chrisccoulson> just like 100's of others in my inbox
[09:33] <seb128> chrisccoulson, hey, how are you?
[09:33] <chrisccoulson> seb128, yeah, good thanks. how are you? did you have a good weekend?
[09:33] <mejo> I've some questions regarding unity 2d and dualhead mode, is this the right channel?
[09:34] <seb128> chrisccoulson, I'm good thanks, I had though weather was not so nice, too warm here (over 38°C yesterday)
[09:34] <mejo> performance is really bad here, and unity (3d, with compiz) doesn't support the required display resolution.
[09:34] <Sweetsha1k> \o/ LibreOffice has become selfaware. It knows how much of it is installed (and in two hours, I hope I taught it to install more).
[09:34] <seb128> mejo, hi, try #ubuntu-unity rather
[09:34] <Sweetsha1k> \o/ LibreOffice has become selfaware. It knows how much of it is installed (and in two hours, I hope I taught it to install more).
[09:35] <chrisccoulson> seb128, yeah, was pretty warm here yesterday too. i spent the entire day outside, cleaning the car
[09:35] <Sweetsha1k> Im not so sure really, if that is a good thing -- that quote from T2 about SkyNet comes to mind.
[09:35] <seb128> Sweetsha1k, nice
[09:35] <mejo> seb128, thanks for advice, I'll do so :)
[09:35] <Laney> a whole day to clean the car? must have been really bad!
[09:35] <Sweetsha1k> StarBasic macros in your document installing universe ;)
[09:35] <seb128> chrisccoulson, water, clever move ;-)
[09:35] <chrisccoulson> Laney, i don't do half a job ;)
[09:36] <chrisccoulson> i washed it, got rid of some scratches, polished it, waxed it, polished all of the glass and plastic trim, and then gutted the inside of it too
[09:36] <chrisccoulson> it looks like new!
[09:43] <jasoncwarner_> chrisccoulson: now would be the time to sell the car ;)
[09:49] <chrisccoulson> heh :)
[09:49] <chrisccoulson> i did have a little helper: http://ubuntuone.com/70Oi8mNc7EO89LxuifRswB
[09:49] <chrisccoulson> and http://ubuntuone.com/535JCGT1mYUmuVAI7m8yBK
[09:54] <jasoncwarner_> chrisccoulson: awww...that's cute:) did she get some money out of the deal? allowance?
[09:54] <chrisccoulson> she did remove the money from the drivers door pocket afterwards ;)
[09:54] <jasoncwarner_> ha! so like a typical carwash ;)
[09:55] <chrisccoulson> lol
[09:59] <mvo> robu: good morning, thanks for your u-m review, do you run the tests on a i386 system by any chance? it should work there too, I'm looking for clues why the test is failing for you currently
[10:00] <wanglao> hello
[10:03] <seb128> mvo, you forgot a "r"
[10:03] <seb128> robru, ^
[10:04] <seb128> chrisccoulson, good, she didn't even try to clean it with a rock or something? ;-)
[10:04] <seb128> the kids are no fun nowadays :p
[10:04] <chrisccoulson> seb128, she did drop her sponge on the floor a couple of times, but i managed to grab it before her so i could wash the grit out of it ;)
[10:05] <seb128> chrisccoulson, ;-)
[10:09] <ogra_> hmm, did you guys drop metacity from the CD along with uniity-2d ?
[10:09] <ogra_> seems non GL machines cant even start ubiquity-dm now
[10:10] <ogra_> (Bug 1037515)
[10:10] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1037515 in ubiquity "ubiquity-dm crashed with MissingProgramError in run(): No window manager found (tried metacity, xfwm4, matchbox-window-manager, openbox-lubuntu, openbox)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1037515
[10:10] <dpm> hi pitti, I hope you had a great holiday! When you've got a minute, would you mind double-checking the langpack crontab? I updated it with the new build times for Quantal, but I wasn't sure if the quantal line needed a 'quantal-updates' or some other location
[10:10] <pitti> hey dpm, thanks for covering!
[10:11] <seb128> ogra_, if ubiquity-dm needs it, it should depends on it
[10:11] <pitti> dpm: no, just "quantal"
[10:11] <seb128> ogra_, I guess it falled out by lack of depends putting it on the iso
[10:11] <dpm> pitti, np, ok, let me change that :)
[10:11] <ogra_> seb128, it needs *a* wm and will work fine with compiz ...
[10:11] <chrisccoulson> seb128, oh, me and ruby also made ice cream this weekend :)
[10:11] <pitti> dpm: I don't see a quantal line? and the other releases are all disabled
[10:11] <ogra_> just not on machines that cant run it
[10:11] <chrisccoulson> (which i've still not eaten yet!)
[10:11] <seb128> chrisccoulson, hum, yummy, I want ice cream! ;-)
[10:12] <chrisccoulson> heh
[10:12] <chrisccoulson> i might go and eat some in a bit ;)
[10:12] <seb128> lucky you ;-)
[10:12] <seb128> what flavor did you pick?
[10:12] <dpm> pitti, oh, I just needed to :q, now it should be installed and up to date
[10:12] <chrisccoulson> we made peach flavour
[10:13] <pitti> dpm: looks good to me, thanks! (I assume the days match the LP export days?)
[10:13] <seb128> chrisccoulson, refreshing by a hot summer day, I like that ;-)
[10:14] <dpm> pitti, yeah, the exports were set up a while ago, I'm just updating the wiki page with the info about the times now
[10:50] <Laney> updating vala
[10:52] <ogra_> chrisccoulson, hrm ... is there any limit in the amount of tabs that FF can show ? since today the little side scrolling arrow from the tab bar doesnt allow me to get to the last tab in the list anymore
[10:52] <ogra_> i can select it from the pulldown list ... but cant reach the tab to close it
[10:53] <ogra_> (thats precise)
[10:56] <seb128> Laney, oh, while you are looking at vala...
[10:56] <seb128> bug #1038843
[10:56] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1038843 in librsvg "Update to 2.36.2" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1038843
[10:56] <Laney> librsvg?
[10:56] <seb128> Laney, we should maybe build vala-0.18 without --disable-unversioned
[10:56] <Laney> oh i see
[10:56] <seb128> Laney, no, see the comment ;-)
[10:57] <seb128> Laney, I think the way it was done in the past is that the "default" vala version (e.g the one providing "valac") would build without --disable-unversioned
[10:58] <seb128> that should probably be 0.18 in quantal
[10:58] <Laney> it didn't get swapped from 0.16?
[10:58] <seb128> let me look, I've no strong opinion on whether we should default to current stable or unstable
[10:58] <seb128> wdyt?
[11:01] <Laney> we have it on 0.16 atm
[11:01] <Laney> but librsvg is asking for 0.18 explicitly in its build-deps, not sure why
[11:02] <seb128> we should maybe patch librsvg to check the -0.18.pc then
[11:02] <Laney> that's what i'm getting at
[11:02] <Laney> if you ask for the non-default then you get to check for that ;-)
[11:02] <Laney> i'll do it
[11:02] <Laney> after making sure it is necessary
[11:06] <chrisccoulson> i guess the DC move is the reason i currently can't upload from chinstrap?
[11:07] <Laney> yep, see #is
[11:07] <chrisccoulson> ah, thanks
[11:08] <chrisccoulson> that kind of sucks. i don't really want to upload firefox and thunderbird from my own connection
[11:14] <Laney> canonistack works
[11:19] <seb128> chrisccoulson, yeah, I asked about that a bit earlier, they will fix it
[11:19] <seb128> chrisccoulson, speaking of which
[11:19] <seb128> they just fixed it
[11:19] <seb128> if you want to try ;-)
[11:45] <ogra_> chrisccoulson, hmm, did you see my ping above ... seems i cant even reach the first and last tab in the list with the scrollwheel
[12:00] <chrisccoulson> ogra_, yes, i'm not sure what would cause that though. firefox hasn't changed for a while
[12:00] <chrisccoulson> tried disabling addons? ;)
[12:07] <Sweetsha1k> heh, I just got my own press article: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/LibreOffice-team-to-focus-on-hard-bugs-1670366.html
[12:50] <tkamppeter> pitti, hi
[12:50] <pitti> hello tkamppeter, wie gehts?
[12:52] <tkamppeter> pitti, alles in Ordnung, und kaum bist Du zurück schon habe ich etwas für Dich: Kannst Du cups-filters (1.0.22) und CUPS (1.6.1), jeweils den aktuellen BZR-Stand nmach Debian und Ubuntu hochladen?
[12:52] <tkamppeter> pitti, enthält alles, was vor FF noch rein muss.
[12:53] <pitti> tkamppeter: doing cups-filters now; does cups' test suite work now?
[12:54] <tkamppeter> pitti, I did not test the CUPS test suite again. I am rushing stuff into Quantal FF and into 12.04.1.
[12:54] <pitti> completely disabling cups' test suite really sounds bad
[12:54] <pitti> we WILL forget about it, and fixing it later is only going to be harder than fixing it now
[12:54] <mdeslaur> tkamppeter, pitti: do you have a cups upload planned for quantal? Could I get you to add this to it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1157149/
[12:55] <tkamppeter> pitti, I am simply mirroring the SRUs for Precise to the BZR and to Quantal.
[12:55] <pitti> tkamppeter: could you rather disable the two tests that break?
[12:55] <mdeslaur> I was going to upload it in a half-hour, but don't want to collide with you
[12:55] <pitti> tkamppeter: oh, I see quantal already has 1.6.1; please only upload to quantal for now, then
[12:56] <tkamppeter> pitti, can we adjust the test suite after FF?
[12:56] <pitti> tkamppeter: it seems you already uploaded the test suite disabling to quantal, so sure
[12:56] <pitti> tkamppeter: but I won't upload it to Debian as it is; I really don't want to be responsible for breaking it one some of the architectures
[12:57] <pitti> tkamppeter: also, I can upload cups-filters to experimental, but not to quantal as libqpdf-dev is in universe
[12:58] <tkamppeter> pitti, libqpdf-dev has already an approved MIR, the MIR is waiting for a package actually pulling QPDF, so we need to upload cups-filters to complete the MIR now.
[12:59] <pitti> ah, I see; great
[13:00] <tkamppeter> pitti, bug 1024435. You will fix it today.
[13:00] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1024435 in qpdf "[MIR] qpdf" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1024435
[13:03] <tkamppeter> mdeslaur, what is your patch exactly good for?
[13:04] <mdeslaur> tkamppeter: it adds apparmor information to the apport report if any denials are found in the logs files
[13:04] <mdeslaur> tkamppeter: it'll be easier to see if apparmor caused cups to break
[13:05] <pitti> tkamppeter: qpdf promoted, c-filters uploaded to quantal and experimental; thanks!
[13:05] <pitti> tkamppeter: I'll let you deal with mdeslaur's patch and uploading cups to quantal
[13:37] <tkamppeter> pitti, thanks for all this.
[14:05] <robru> good morning!
[14:06] <robru> hi mvo, still around?
[14:07] <mvo> robru: hello, yes
[14:07] <mvo> robru: in a call right now though, so I may be a bit slow
[14:07] <robru> mvo, no worries, I need to take care of some first-day administrative things. let me know when you're free
[14:07] <seb128> hey robru, welcome!
[14:08] <robru> hi seb128 !
[14:10] <mvo> robru: thanks, my first question would just be if you are on a i386 install
[14:10] <mvo> robru: thanks for the robustness branch btw
[14:11] <robru> mvo, I am on an i5
[14:11] <robru> mvo, you're welcome ;-)
[14:13] <seb128> robru, uname -a ?
[14:13] <robru> $ uname -a
[14:13] <robru> Linux feztron 3.5.0-10-generic #10-Ubuntu SMP Mon Aug 13 15:23:58 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:13] <seb128> robru, ok, so 64bit install
[14:13] <robru> yeah
[14:13] <seb128> I think that's what mvo was asking
[14:14] <seb128> i386 = 32b
[14:14] <seb128> x86_64 = 64b
[14:14] <robru> I know that. I thought 'i5' was clear enough that it was 64bit :-P
[14:14] <seb128> I've an i5 and run 32bits ;-)
[14:14] <robru> well you're just crazy ;-)
[14:14] <seb128> lol
[14:14] <seb128> could be :p
[14:22] <robru> seb128, I don't seem to have access to the NewStaffTasks just yet...
[14:23] <seb128> robru, let me check
[14:24] <mvo> robru, seb128: thanks
[14:24] <kenvandine> welcome aboard robru!
[14:24] <robru> kenvandine, thanks!
[14:26] <robru> mvo, still on that call?
[14:28] <mvo> robru: yeah, sorry
[14:28] <robru> no worries
[14:28] <robru> mvo, might as well do that review while I wait to be given access to the wiki
[14:29] <mvo> robru: but I'm keen to reproduce the test case failure in a chroot
[14:29] <mvo> robru: that would be cool
[14:29] <robru> mvo, what info do you need from me to do that?
[14:31] <Laney> hey robru, welcome!
[14:32] <robru> hi Laney ! thanks!
[14:32] <seb128> robru, I pinged Michelle about your wiki access issue, she's trying to get it figured out
[14:32] <Laney> if you're in ~canonical then you should be able to get in the wiki
[14:32] <Laney> looks like you are: try logging out?
[14:32] <robru> Laney, it doesn't seem to be working!
[14:33] <Laney> sometimes stuff is cached
[14:33] <Laney> also, hate hate hate 3g
[14:33] <robru> oh, there we go!
[14:33] <robru> haha
[14:33] <robru> alright I'm in
[14:33] <robru> nm seb128 ^
[14:37] <chrisccoulson> does anyone have oneiric and natty installs to do the rubber stamp thing on bug 1035305, so we can actually make it possible for people to run firefox again?
[14:37] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1035305 in firefox "Crash when switching apps back to Firefox (may be Firebug related)" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1035305
[14:42] <seb128> chrisccoulson, is that a security targetted upload?
[14:42] <seb128> chrisccoulson, e.g do we need all series approved for precise to go in?
[14:42] <chrisccoulson> seb128, no, it's just a normal SRU
[14:43] <chrisccoulson> well, not exactly normal. it's the "firebug update caused firefox to crash on start" issue
[14:43] <seb128> ok
[14:44] <seb128> mdeslaur, micahg: ^ I'm sure our security team friends have oneiric and natty installs to test one... ;-)
[14:47] <dobey> seb128: hey
[14:48] <dobey> seb128: can you attach your screenshot(s) of the u1ms issues you were having in rhythmbox, to bug #1034320 as well?
[14:48] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1034320 in ubuntuone-music-store "Checkout button is invisible" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034320
[14:48] <mterry> robru, belated welcome!  (I've been having some wifi issues)
[14:49] <robru> mterry, haha, well I'm drowning in the company wiki so I haven't actually accomplished much yet ;-)
[14:49] <robru> mterry, but thanks ;-)
[14:53] <mvo> robru: call is over now
[14:53] <robru> mvo, oh, ok.
[14:53] <robru> mvo, sorry for rushing you
[14:56] <pitti> Laney: reviewed the l-s MP, LGTM!
[14:56] <Laney> awesome, will get it uploaded after i've wrangled vala!
[14:57] <Laney> thanks
[14:58] <mvo> robru: no worries, I can reproduce one of the issues in a chroot now, I work on a fix
[14:59] <robru> mvo, one of the issues? I thought there just was the one... I had four failures in the test suite but it was the same error each time.
[15:05] <mvo> robru: *cough* should be all good now, please try bzr up and then run the test again
[15:09] <robru> ugh, bzr up is not working. How do I tell it that there's an update? it's a bit confused.
[15:12] <robru> ah, 'rm -rf', perfect.
[15:13] <mvo> mterry: \o/ for your review
[15:13] <mvo> robru: mterry also put in a review
[15:13] <seb128> robru, how not working?
[15:13] <mterry> mvo, oh sorry, didn't mean to duplicate robru
[15:14] <robru> seb128, well I'd run 'bzr up' and it'd tell me that it's already up to date, despite the fact that it's clearly one revision behind what's on launchpad. don't worry, I deleted the whole tree and rebranched it from scratch.
[15:14] <mvo> mterry: no, the more the merrier :) I mean, you raise valid points
[15:14] <mvo> mterry: latest rev should fix the test failure, sorry for that one
[15:14] <seb128> robru, not a solution though ;-) did you bzr push that somewhere? maybe it was trying to pull from the location where you pushed
[15:15] <robru> no...
[15:16] <seb128> ok, dunno then, weird
[15:17] <mterry> robru, just jumping in in the middle of this conversation.  is it a branch or a checkout?  bzr up won't help with branches
[15:18] <robru> it was a branch. so there you go
[15:19] <seb128> I'm doing the gnome-screenshot update
[15:23] <mterry> mvo, I still get the same error in test_phased_percentage_from_security (but the others are fixed, oddly).  And the pep8 test still fails
[15:24] <robru> mvo, test suite looks good to me
[15:31] <seb128> updating libsecret
[15:32] <mvo> mterry: hm, hm, pep8 is fixed now, let me look at the percentage one
[15:35] <mvo> mterry: hm, work for me in both my devbox and in a chroot now :/
[15:35] <mterry> mvo, let me try again, maybe I'm crazy
[15:36] <mvo> python3 -m unittest discover is what I used
[15:36] <ayan> what exactly does it mean to 'safely remove' a usb device under ubuntu?  does this merely unmount the device or is there more to it?
[15:36] <ayan> err -- specifically a usb storage device.
[15:36] <mterry> mvo, nosetests3 is what the dep8 test runs
[15:38] <mvo> mterry: Ran 57 tests in 41.479s
[15:38] <mvo> OK
[15:38] <mvo> mterry: are you on a i386 by any chance?
[15:39] <mterry> mvo, yeah
[15:42] <seb128> ayan, safely remove power down the port the device is connect to I think
[15:42] <seb128> ayan, see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=598690#c8
[15:42] <mvo> mterry: could you please try r2546?
[15:42] <ubot2`> Gnome bug 598690 in general "Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[15:44] <ayan> seb128: thanks.  i have an Alcor card reader that powers down when you 'safely remove' a device connected to it and never comes back until the machine resumes from an s3 or s4 cycle.
[15:45] <mterry> mvo, now they all give the list index-out-of-range error.  :-/
[15:49] <mvo> mterry: aha, ok, not good, I think I fixed that now in r2547, I will create a i386 chroot to see whats going on
[15:51] <mterry> mvo, yup, the revision fixed it, all pass
[15:51] <mterry> mvo, I'll mark my approval in the merge request
[15:52] <mvo> mterry: excellent, thanks a lot
[15:55] <kenvandine> mterry, MIR bug 1029549 is ready for the final package to get ACKed :)
[15:55] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1029549 in signon-ui "[MIR] online-accounts and friends" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1029549
[15:56] <kenvandine> mterry, can you please do that so I can start upload the stuff that depends on it?
[15:57] <mterry> kenvandine, done
[15:57] <mterry> kenvandine, phew!
[15:57] <kenvandine> thansk!
[15:57] <kenvandine> phew is right!
[15:57] <kenvandine> i will be adding 2 more packages to that bug today :)
[15:58] <mterry> kenvandine, stop it!
[15:58] <kenvandine> but enough is approved that i can start landing empathy and gwibber :)
[15:58] <kenvandine> mterry, i know... it's crazy!
[16:10] <seb128> doing the gnome-system-log update
[16:30] <mterry> tedg, from your latest remote-login-server merge, I get a bunch of warnings from the test suite: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1157459/
[16:31] <mterry> They still pass, but I'm not sure they are working right, with all those critical warnings and failures to get a dbus name
[16:32] <tedg> mterry, Yeah, that's the negative testing.
[16:32] <tedg> mterry, If you look at that test case it adds a handler for the messages so they don't block the tests.
[16:32] <mterry> tedg, OK, awesome
[16:33] <mterry> tedg, I had to add python and dbus-test-runner to my Build-Depends, which you may want to do on your side too, for your automatic builds
[16:33] <tedg> mterry, Oops, thanks!
[16:34] <mterry> tedg, just filed a branch to convert slmock to python3 too
[16:34] <mterry> tedg, not a blocker for MIR like the other package, since it won't land on the CD, but still nice
[16:34] <tedg> Heh, EVERYTHING needs to be Python 3 ;-)
[16:34] <tedg> Yup, thanks as well!
[16:36] <davmor2> hey guys can someone with quantal on a laptop try the following please, let it sleep/blank screen on mains, then move the mouse to wake it,  repeat on battery,  on battery I get the lock screen password but on mains it goes back to desktop
[16:36] <mterry> tedg, and lastly: uccs-server.c:553:32: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function 'strlen'
[16:38] <davmor2> if I do ctrl+alt+l I get the unlock screen on both battery and mains
[16:39] <tedg> mterry, Did you push your branch?
[16:39] <mterry> tedg, not yet.  Can in a second
[16:39] <tedg> Ah, okay, was going to grab your changes.
[16:40] <mterry> one moment
[16:43] <mterry> tedg, pushed
[16:44] <Laney> my, uploading over 3G is a dream
[16:45] <tedg> mterry, Ah, the strlen issue was because I was including "strings.h" instead of "string.h" ;-)
[16:57]  * Laney declares fontconfig-voodoo dead
[17:12] <dobey> mpt, seb128: can you ensure you have all updates installed in quantal, and go to the 'Basket' page in u1ms in rhythmbox again and see if it's still an issue please?
[17:14] <robru> hey, did the company IRC just go down, or was it just my connection?
[17:14] <dobey> robru: your connection i guess
[17:14] <kenvandine> robru, i see a "max connections" error
[17:14] <kenvandine> but i am still connected
[17:14] <robru> I also can't get through to smtp it seems...
[17:17] <robru> man, I can't get through to the wiki either! it's like the whole company has gone offline
[17:26] <robru> yep, seems I'm somehow locked out of irc, imap, smtp, and the wiki. no idea what the hell happened, I was using these all successfully a couple minutes ago, so it's not like I'm trying the wrong password or something.
[17:26] <mterry> robru, you can't even get to the wiki page, or you can't login?
[17:26] <robru> can't even get there. page won't load.
[17:27] <robru> it's as if some kind of company-wide firewall is locking me out because I can load other pages on the web just fine
[17:28] <mterry> weird
[17:28] <robru> oh, and launchpad too
[17:28] <mterry> :-/
[17:29] <robru> impressively terrible
[17:29] <mterry> robru, let me try to ask somebody on canoni irc
[17:29] <robru> mterry, can you ping deej on the company irc? he was helping me get things set up before, and he'll be able to confirm that I had sent & received company emails
[17:30] <robru> I just rebooted my computer just in case it was some kind of connection issue on my end, but that hasn't helped
[17:41] <ricotz> Laney, hi, are you going to do the same packaging changes of vala-0.18 to 0.16?
[17:49] <Laney> ricotz: I haven't planned to, but I was going to send it up to Debian (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=678342)
[17:49] <ubot2`> Debian bug 678342 in valac "Autotools helpers are not installed" [Normal,Open]
[17:49] <Laney> if you want to do it I'll sponsor for you tomorrow?
[17:50] <ricotz> Laney, i see, it would be pretty nice to have it there too
[17:51] <ricotz> i am not sure i will get to it
[17:51] <Laney> none of it is Ubuntu specific
[17:51] <ricotz> exactly
[17:51] <Laney> are you in pkg-vala?
[17:51] <ricotz> no
[17:52] <Laney> ok
[17:52] <Laney> well I'll see if I get time to send it up there
[17:52] <ricotz> great :)
[17:52] <Laney> I don't plan on adding it to Ubuntu unless you see a need for it in .16
[17:52] <Laney> these changes were for librsvg
[17:52] <ricotz> 0.16 can be synced
[17:52] <Laney> yes, I mean that I don't plan to diverge it
[17:53] <Laney> and I doubt they would upload given the freeze
[17:53] <ricotz> ah right, yeah that would be my favorite solution too
[17:53] <ricotz> a git sync seems fine too
[17:53] <Laney> well, hopefully they will be in git so the future person who needs it can sync
[17:54] <Laney> if it becomes a blocker for something
[17:54] <Laney> s/sync/cherry-pick/
[17:54]  * Laney is out for some time, ttyl :-)
[17:54] <ricotz> bye
[17:54] <Laney> bicycle couriering a modem to my new house ...
[18:43] <robru> test test
[18:43] <robru> can anybody hear me>?
[18:44] <micahg> seb128: I'm on vacation until next week
[18:46] <kenvandine> robru, loud and clear
[18:46] <robru> k, lost my connection for a minute there.
[18:46] <robru> thanks
[18:46] <kenvandine> np
[18:46]  * kenvandine wonders how many times he'll get to rebuild empathy today
[18:47] <kenvandine> might set a record :)
[18:47] <davmor2> kenvandine: can anyone bet on this outcome?
[18:47] <kenvandine> sure :)
[18:47] <davmor2> I'm going for 32 nice round number :)
[18:47] <mterry> robru, welcome back  :)
[18:48] <kenvandine> davmor2, i am very likely already past that :)
[18:48] <mterry> kenvandine, answer is clearly 42
[18:48] <robru> mterry, well, I'm still locked out of anything that would allow me to do my job. freenode is all I got.
[18:48] <davmor2> kenvandine: no I meant more times :D
[18:48] <mterry> robru, oh right.  I forgot you had been here before.  /.\
[18:48] <robru> heh, yeah
[18:48] <mterry> robru, mentally classed you as off IRC, despite having chatted to you earlier
[18:48] <kenvandine> adding 16 new binaries to it and shlibdeps is being a pita
[18:49] <kenvandine> mterry, 42 might be a good guess :)
[19:03] <seb128> dobey, it seems it stopped being an issue and I didn't update anything today that should make a difference...
[19:04] <seb128> dobey, oh, got it again, hum
[19:05] <dobey> weird
[19:06] <seb128> dobey, I got it randomly, tried by closing and reopening rb and clicking download and then basket for a few albums
[19:07] <dobey> seb128: hmm. how often does it happen?
[19:08] <seb128> dobey, 30% of the time?
[19:09] <seb128> it's not a very scientific approch, I tried like 10 times and got the issue 3 times
[19:10] <dobey> right; so maybe it is a webkit heisenbug then