[04:39] <Squirm> morning
[05:39] <nuvolari> hrr :-/
[05:39] <nuvolari> "Seeing you are so good with the photo club website and seem to be an IT techi etc I would like to ask you a question.
[05:39] <nuvolari>  
[05:39] <nuvolari> Would you be able to help me to unlock our wi-fi modem."
[05:40] <nuvolari> website != modem
[05:52] <DigiGram> lol but modem and website has both to do with the internet, so you MUST be an expert on both
[05:55] <DigiGram> Does the monthly meetings take long?
[06:00] <Banlam> depends
[06:00] <Banlam> but usually less than an hour
[06:00] <Banlam> although talking can carry on past that
[06:00] <Banlam> some times start 5-10min late
[06:00] <Banlam> waiting for people to arrive
[06:01] <DigiGram> ah cool, will try to sit in tonight
[06:27] <superfly> good morning sleepy heads!!
[06:32] <nlsthzn> morning SubOracle 
[06:32] <nlsthzn> >.<
[06:32] <nlsthzn> morning superfly 
[06:32] <superfly> yo nlsthzn
[07:00] <DigiGram> my first take at designing a blog: http://beinganengineer3.blogspot.com/2012/08/blog-designing.html
[07:01] <DigiGram> I think my next mission will be to forget it and stick to templates hehe
[07:17] <tonberryE352> the numbered list and the red line in the background overlap on http://beinganengineer3.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-last-24-hours-of-24.html
[07:29] <DigiGram> I saw that tonberryE352 but my blog's template was used straight from source, I'll start editing my template next, most of my time went into my wife's template
[07:30] <DigiGram> And its been a while since I've done some HTML editing, so even her's is a work in progress, such as the stupid search bar, need to fix that
[07:31] <tonberryE352> oh i see
[07:32] <tonberryE352> still looks way better than the html i write...
[07:32] <tonberryE352> would help if I could properly use CSS...
[07:33] <DigiGram> but I saw the issue with the numbered list after I posted it, but I was on my way for a a day's leave, so didn't worry hehe
[07:34] <DigiGram> CSS is great!! And those templates are based on an XML template, so I did not create it from scratch
[08:49] <Kilos> evening superfly and others
[08:50] <Kilos> yo jurgie
[08:51] <Kilos> Maaz, announce Don't forget the meeting tonight at 19.30 peeps
[08:51] <Maaz> Hear ye, hear ye! Don't forget the meeting tonight at 19.30 peeps
[08:52] <DigiGram> will try to be here
[09:00] <DigiGram> any of you guys/gals teachers, principles or in any way involved with education? Want to ask your input on an ill defined question
[09:04] <Kilos> ask anyway DigiGram must be lotsa opinions here
[09:05] <DigiGram> well, the question is: what is the differances and similiarities between mini-independant education systems and mini-dependant education systems
[09:05] <Kilos> tonberryE352, Guest18800 bad connection other side
[09:06] <DigiGram> the issue is the subject does not give a definition for [in]dependant systems, but the lecturer mentioned its dependance upon the "students"
[09:06] <DigiGram> stupid question IMHO, so hopefully the TA will clarify it quickly, I hope
[09:15] <Kilos> eish
[09:20] <Kilos> morning inetpro 
[09:21] <jrgns> helo kilos
[09:25] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday dont forget tonights meet hey. goosie wont be here
[09:25] <maiatoday> ok I'll do my best
[09:25] <Kilos> ty
[09:34] <sflr> morning all!
[09:34] <Kilos> hi there sflr long time no see
[09:35] <Kilos> you forgot us hey?
[09:35] <sflr> hey Kilos! not at all :) life got busy :|
[09:35] <Kilos> oh my
[09:35] <Kilos> you all well sflr 
[09:35] <Kilos> ?
[09:44] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[09:44] <Kilos> prepaid manager looks good tumbleweed  will save lotsa sim changes ty
[09:44] <Kilos> if it could only see the data as well
[09:45] <nlsthzn> alo uncle Kilos 
[09:45] <Kilos> dont forget tonight hey neil
[09:46] <nlsthzn> Getting a bit late... first it was 19:00 and now I see it is 19:30... I should make it... at least the first half in any case :)
[09:50] <superfly> hi Kilos
[09:51] <Kilos> no man always been 19.30 isnt it?
[09:51] <Kilos> did you use my right addy for that mail superfly ?
[09:57] <superfly> jammer Kilos, things are hectic round here. can you just mail me a reminder please?
[09:57] <Kilos> np superfly will do ty
[10:09] <Kilos> this has been a bad year for spare time it seems. everyone super busy all the time
[10:10] <Kilos> luckily not many peeps need help anymore
[10:10] <Kilos> only me
[10:10] <DigiGram> the rest of us just suck it up
[10:11] <Kilos> hehe
[10:11] <Kilos> few years back this channel really worked
[10:12] <Kilos> spose thats the modern way. put more in and get less out
[10:12] <nlsthzn> >.> ah the good old days ... when the internet worked on parafien
[10:13] <Kilos> ha ha ha
[10:15] <DigiGram> and people knew about IRC
[10:20] <Kilos> hi falling 
[10:21] <falling> hi.
[10:21] <Kilos> ah you been here before
[10:21] <falling> yes.
[10:21] <Kilos> si i see
[10:21] <Kilos> so
[10:27] <DigiGram> okay I know it's not what you guys spend your time with, but in Winblows, is there a way to using something like the AT command to run a program say 5minutes after startup?
[10:28] <DigiGram> otherwise I'll need start a counter at startup and wait 5minutes then excecute, but I'm trying not to install extra stuff
[10:28] <nlsthzn> DigiGram, can't you make a bat file and something like the pause command (can't remember if you can add a timer)
[10:28] <falling> DigiGram: Try making an counter with VBScript? :)
[10:29] <DigiGram> pause waits until the user pressees a key, but I can use ping 127.0.0.1 -w1000 -n3600 >nul as a pause maybe
[10:29] <falling> DigiGram: yes, you can :)
[10:30] <DigiGram> thats what I normally use but timed to wait 3 seconds, not 5minutes, should work I guess
[10:30] <DigiGram> why oh why couldn't they just use Ubuntu on the lab computers...
[10:30] <Kilos> lol
[10:31] <falling> DigiGram: dual boot ;)
[10:32] <DigiGram> that will make the issue larger hehe. I don't work on those PC's, I just need to backup them regularly
[10:32] <DigiGram> and I don't like BackupPC, so I wrote one using cygwin's version of rsync
[10:33] <DigiGram> but I need to wait until the WiFi is connected before I can start the script
[10:33] <falling> DigiGram: I see
[10:33] <falling> :)
[10:33] <falling> DigiGram: just install some additional programs. The full adobe suite and some games ;)
[10:33] <falling> issue solved xD
[10:33] <DigiGram> hehe
[10:34] <lets-smile> ^^ :)
[10:34] <Kilos> hehe
[10:34] <DigiGram> the PC's range from Pentium I's, to i3's, Win95 to Win7 (and my lone Ubuntu Server)
[10:35] <Kilos> sjoe
[10:35] <Kilos> what place uses old pcs like that still?
[10:36] <DigiGram> Kilos they are used on very old equipment that only works on 8bit
[10:36] <Kilos> ah
[10:37] <DigiGram> so as we upgrade those equipment (a few hunder thousand Rands at a time), we dump those pc's and get newer ones, but until then..
[10:37] <DigiGram> they won't buy a new R3M Xray machine just so I can rather use Win 7 on it than Win2000 lol
[10:38] <Kilos> lol
[10:38] <DigiGram> and the equipment doesn't support any Linux, most of it can't even be used without MS Office installed, not other office suite works for them, wth
[10:38] <Kilos> xp is easier and more managable than win7 methinks
[10:39] <DigiGram> depends, but I quite like 7, some good issues were adressed
[10:39] <DigiGram> almost as good as ubuntu 10.04 now
[10:40] <Kilos> haha
[11:05] <smile> brb
[11:33] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[11:34] <DigiGram> so what does the Ubuntu community think of iOS? and the iPad 3rd gen for that matter?
[11:36] <bakuman> I can only speak for myself. The products itself is cool enough, but I do not like Apple, and the fact that if you get one apple product you basically need to replace everything with apple, otherwise it is useless
[11:39] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[11:39] <psydroid> hi Digigram and bakuman
[11:39] <Kilos> hi psydroid bakuman 
[11:39] <bakuman> hi hi
[11:40] <DigiGram> hi hi
[11:40] <psydroid> :)
[11:40] <DigiGram> bakuman I hear you, but currenly I have nothing on my iPad that I feel does not work on my Windows PC, haven't tried it with Ubuntu yet
[11:41] <DigiGram> maybe just because it's jailbroken, don't know
[11:41] <psydroid> my cousin even told me she is getting frustrated by the limitations of her iPhone and iPad
[11:42] <tonberryE352> we deal with bug, they deal with limitations
[11:42] <DigiGram> yes the limitations is frustrating
[11:42] <DigiGram> I'm used to Android, so the iPad is very limiting
[11:42] <DigiGram> even when JB
[11:50] <DigiGram> another question, anyone here working for an Engineering company, such as Sasol, Eskom or similiar?
[11:58] <superfly> DigiGram: I'm writing this from my rooted, flashed Kindle Fire, running the latest Android. You can't do that with Apple.
[12:00] <DigiGram> Yeah I know, my ARMv6 Samsung Galaxy Ace has ICS now (Jelly Bean is still Beta)
[12:00] <DigiGram> Apple will never support devices that far
[12:18] <tumbleweed> Symmetria: do you still have access to mirror.ac.za? apparently ambo doesn't atm
[12:20] <DigiGram> is it the TENET mirror?
[12:20] <tumbleweed> yes
[12:21] <DigiGram> ah
[12:21] <DigiGram> I love being on the TENET ring, speeds are awesome
[12:28] <sakhi> agreed
[12:29] <DigiGram> are there any speedtest.net servers on TENET somewhere? will love to see the speed
[12:29] <DigiGram> but I get this to Cell C's server in Jhb: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2120673249.png
[13:44] <DigiGram> I think I have too much work for tonight, if I miss the meeting tonight I'll check the logs tomorrow
[14:16] <DigiGram> cheers, maybe I'll be around for the meeting, I hope
[16:10] <nuvolari> .
[16:10] <Kilos> yo nuvolari 
[16:11] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos 
[16:11]  * nuvolari kyk die agenda uit
[16:11] <Kilos> i think we gonna be min here tonight
[16:11] <nuvolari> meh :-/
[16:11] <nuvolari> well, we had 2 great meetings to buffer this one
[16:12] <Kilos> ons sal maar sien. daar is niks nuut op agenda nie ne?
[16:12] <nuvolari> ek't niks bygesit nie oom
[16:12] <nuvolari> ja, die agenda is maar eil
[16:12] <Kilos> ek ook konnie dink aan iets nie, te besig met die dom unity
[16:13] <nuvolari> kry xfce oom
[16:13] <nuvolari> dis nie so gesukkel nie
[16:13] <Kilos> it really doesnt work well with externals
[16:13] <nuvolari> baie meer soos gnome2 
[16:13] <Kilos> nee als werk maar so stadig teenoor maverick
[16:13] <nuvolari> xfce oom?
[16:13] <nuvolari> oh
[16:13] <nuvolari> welcome smile
[16:14] <Kilos> nee man xubuntu is nie selle nie
[16:14] <smile> thanks nuvolari 
[16:14] <nuvolari> probably not the best dinner, but biltong is darm maar lekker
[16:14] <smile> nuvolari: bodhi linux is die snelste ;)
[16:14] <smile> ^^
[16:14] <Kilos> eish now my mouth is watering
[16:14] <nuvolari> smile: I tried it, but with 2 screens it was a bit of a headache wrt. fokus and desktop switching
[16:15] <nuvolari> *focus
[16:15] <Kilos> im sure im missing something thats all, and i said i will give unity a fair chance
[16:15] <smile> nuvolari: install lubuntu-core over bodhi ;)
[16:17] <nuvolari> smile: hmm, maybe I expressed myself wrong :P I meant to say that I have tried enlightenment, not bodhi itself
[16:17] <smile> nuvolari: Oh I see. Bodhi has the nicest Enlightenment implementation of all
[16:17] <smile> So give it a try :)
[16:18] <nuvolari> smile: dual screen handling?
[16:18] <smile> and if you don't like it, install lubuntu-core
[16:18] <smile> :p
[16:18] <smile> nuvolari: I hope so. every day new version arriving
[16:34] <Squirm> evening
[16:34] <smile> good evening, Squirm :p
[16:35] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[16:38] <nuvolari> anything I can add to the agenda?
[16:38] <Squirm> where can I find it?
[16:38] <Squirm> found it
[16:38] <nuvolari> Maaz: agenda
[16:38] <Maaz> nuvolari: Huh?
[16:38] <Kilos> top
[16:38] <nuvolari> hmm
[16:38] <nuvolari> Maaz: meeting.agenda
[16:38] <Maaz> nuvolari: meeting.agenda is http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/446/detail/
[16:39] <Kilos> http://bit.ly/LqWDYY
[16:39] <Squirm> ty
[16:39] <nuvolari> nothing much really
[16:39] <Kilos> in the topics bar at the top of xchat. dunno what you guys use
[16:39] <nuvolari> looks like it's going to be a hello, hi, bye meeting
[16:40] <Kilos> maybe we can add some unity gripes
[16:40] <Kilos> hehe
[16:40] <Squirm> yeah
[16:40] <Squirm> I was about to say I don't really see anything :P
[16:41] <nuvolari> awww, dayly squee: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kXE05lBbb3g/UDIrFTaCARI/AAAAAAAAzhU/9IgFbBOcTUo/w497-h373/268631_412420568793812_585430064_n%255B1%255D.jpg
[16:41] <Kilos> going over last minutes will use most of the time
[16:41] <nuvolari> +1 on that
[16:41] <nuvolari> lol
[16:42] <Kilos> oh well there cant always be new and important things to discuss
[16:42] <Kilos> we can discuss why all you geeks got less freetime this year than last year
[16:43] <Squirm> cause last year I wasn't really working
[16:43] <Squirm> this year, on the otherhand...
[16:43] <Squirm> speaking of which.
[16:43]  * nuvolari wasn't working as hard
[16:43]  * Squirm might be slow
[16:43]  * Squirm gets studying
[16:43] <Kilos> ya but everyone else seems to just be that much busier
[16:44] <nuvolari> rather, I had less responsibilities
[16:44] <Squirm> lies nuvolari, you never spoke
[16:44] <Squirm> ...ever
[16:44] <nuvolari> eh?
[16:44] <Kilos> haha he helped me lots Squirm 
[16:44] <nuvolari> Squirm: so you mean I say more this year round?
[16:45] <Squirm> well, I've spoken to you more this year than last
[16:45] <nuvolari> hmm, good point
[16:46] <Squirm> last time we really spoke a lot was before I was in Ballito
[16:46] <Squirm> I actually think that's the last time I was there
[16:47] <nuvolari> locu
[16:47] <nuvolari> er
[16:47] <nuvolari> rage
[16:47] <Squirm> yep
[16:47] <nuvolari> the bad thing about dvorak is that if you missplace your fingers, you might just type something that still makes sense :P
[16:47] <nuvolari> *misplace
[16:47] <Squirm> lol
[16:49] <Squirm> nuvolari: have you done any LPIC?
[16:49] <Squirm> I mean, the exams
[16:49] <nuvolari> noo :-/
[16:50] <Squirm> ok
[16:50] <Squirm> after my exam on Friday, I'm going to look at getting them
[16:50] <Squirm> 1,2 and 3
[16:50] <nuvolari> Maaz: coffee on
[16:50]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[16:51] <nuvolari> Maaz: coffee please
[16:51] <Maaz> nuvolari: Now now, we don't want anyone getting caffeine overdoses
[16:51] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee please
[16:51] <Maaz> Squirm: Yessir
[16:51] <nuvolari> Maaz: end meeting
[16:51] <Maaz> nuvolari: Sorry, no meeting in progress.
[16:51] <Squirm> lol
[16:51] <nuvolari> clever bot
[16:52] <nuvolari> Squirm: are you going to study it full-time?
[16:52] <Squirm> nuvolari: no
[16:52] <Squirm> I have my RHCSA exam on Friday
[16:52] <Squirm> so hopefully that will help for my LPICs
[16:52] <Squirm> and hopefully my LPICs will help for my RHCE I want to do next year
[16:53] <nuvolari> whoa! awesome :D
[16:53] <Squirm> I don't know
[16:53] <Squirm> that's if I pass
[16:54]  * nuvolari was at a split in the road between development or linux
[16:54] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for nuvolari and Squirm!
[16:55] <Squirm> yeee
[16:55] <Squirm> thanks Maaz
[16:55]  * Squirm sips
[16:55] <nuvolari> thanks Maaz 
[16:55] <nuvolari> Maaz: botsnack
[16:55] <Maaz> Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well
[16:55] <Squirm> nuvolari: yeah, I'm not a big dev fan
[16:56] <Kilos> hi HawkiesZA 
[16:56] <nuvolari> I am :P
[16:56] <nuvolari> welcome HawkiesZA 
[16:56] <Squirm> hello HawkiesZA 
[16:57] <HawkiesZA> Evening ya'll
[16:58] <Kilos> i go have supper quick guys
[16:58] <Squirm> enjoy
[17:03] <nuvolari> Squirm: when you're around ballito again, there is one shop you have to buy biltong from
[17:03] <Squirm> nuvolari: I can make my own biltong :P
[17:04] <nuvolari> ok, when you get the urge to buy someone else's biltong :P
[17:05] <Squirm> actually
[17:05] <Squirm> I lie
[17:05] <Squirm> I was in Ballito in April
[17:05] <Squirm> stopped at the Lifestyle centre :P
[17:05] <nuvolari> heh 
[17:05] <nuvolari> close enough
[17:07] <Squirm> lol
[17:17] <Kilos> sigh
[17:17] <Kilos> tummy full eyes pulling closed
[17:20]  * nuvolari voel nou so
[17:20] <nuvolari> klein hondjie sindroom
[17:20] <Kilos> lol
[17:22] <queery> i sorry not staying long
[17:22] <queery> will be late for meeting
[17:22] <Kilos> why queery 
[17:22] <Kilos> hi there
[17:22] <nuvolari> hello hi
[17:23] <nuvolari> welcome queery, jrgns 
[17:23] <jrgns> hi all
[17:23] <bakuman> ai queery, te haastig
[17:23] <queery> still driving and phone dying
[17:23] <jrgns> i might drop off early
[17:23] <Kilos> eish queery bad planning
[17:23] <Kilos> keep n phone charger in the car
[17:23] <queery> driving to quaqua tomorrow
[17:23] <nuvolari> queery: then put down your phone and arrive rather than be the dying one in your circumstances :P
[17:23] <queery> dont have one
[17:24] <queery> im on 0km/h at the moment...
[17:24] <nuvolari> ah
[17:24] <Kilos> haha
[17:24] <nuvolari> then you aren't going anywhere
[17:25] <nuvolari> 0km/h in which direction?
[17:25] <Kilos> anyway thanks for letting us know queery 
[17:25] <nuvolari> I bet you're always travelling downwards
[17:25] <Kilos> maybe just login when we start
[17:25] <Kilos> 5 mins
[17:26] <Kilos> jrgns, gonna be a short meet where you going?
[17:26] <jrgns> wife's coming home :P
[17:26] <Kilos> ah
[17:26] <smile> jrgns: so you're leaving :p
[17:26] <nuvolari> it's not like we're sharing pr0n links
[17:26] <jrgns> lol
[17:26] <Kilos> let her sit on your lap by the pc
[17:26] <Kilos> hehe
[17:26] <jrgns> dude
[17:26] <jrgns> lol
[17:26] <Kilos> lol
[17:27] <jrgns> she doesn't like sharing me with the computer
[17:27] <nuvolari> then get her a computer too
[17:27] <Kilos> yeah they dont
[17:27] <jrgns> she has one, but doesn't like it. i even got her a pink one, doesn't help
[17:27] <nuvolari> :-/
[17:27] <Kilos> nuvolari, het jy al gekyk of Maaz jou like
[17:27] <nuvolari> nee noggie oom
[17:27] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:28] <Kilos> check gou seun
[17:28] <nuvolari> hoe nou weer oom?
[17:28] <nuvolari> Maaz: jump
[17:28] <Maaz> How high?
[17:28] <Kilos> lol
[17:28] <nuvolari> Maaz: so high
[17:28] <Maaz> nuvolari: Excuse me?
[17:28] <nuvolari> Maaz: you're excused
[17:28] <Maaz> nuvolari: *blink*
[17:28] <nuvolari> oh, she's a female
[17:28]  * nuvolari blinks back
[17:29] <Kilos> Maaz, are you female
[17:29] <Maaz> Come on, be realistic. I'm a Bot
[17:29] <nuvolari> Maaz: are you a female bot?
[17:29] <Maaz> nuvolari: Sorry...
[17:29] <nuvolari> :O
[17:29] <nuvolari> tranny?
[17:29] <nuvolari> Maaz: we still love you
[17:29] <Maaz> nuvolari: *blink*
[17:30] <Kilos> nuvolari, probeer iets wat jy in die meet moet gebruik en sien of hy luister
[17:30] <nuvolari> Maaz: start meeting about Monthly IRC Meeting
[17:30]  * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles
[17:30] <Kilos> yay
[17:30] <nuvolari> yup. dit werk :>
[17:30] <nuvolari> Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt
[17:30] <Maaz> nuvolari: Alrighty
[17:30] <nuvolari> Howdy everyone
[17:30] <Kilos> Maaz, I am Miles Sharpe
[17:30] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty
[17:30] <nuvolari> welcome to tonight's meeting
[17:30] <Kilos> Maaz, welcome
[17:30] <Maaz> Welcome to tonights meeting everyone
[17:30] <nuvolari> we're not that high in numbers, but we are here
[17:30] <nuvolari> we are sparta!
[17:31] <nuvolari> :P
[17:31] <Kilos> hehe
[17:31] <superfly> Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman
[17:31] <Maaz> superfly: Done
[17:31] <Kilos> bakuman, Banlam login
[17:31] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[17:31] <nuvolari> There isn't much planned for the meeting, so I guess tonight will be a quick meeting (depending on surprises)
[17:32] <Kilos> Trixar_za, come on login
[17:32] <nuvolari> welcome superfly :>
[17:32] <Trixar_za> Login?
[17:32] <nuvolari> oh dear
[17:32] <nuvolari> Maaz: topic 1. Welcoming and introduction
[17:32] <Maaz> Current Topic: 1. Welcoming and introduction
[17:32] <nuvolari> we're acutally kind of past point 1 :P
[17:33] <nuvolari> Trixar_za: introduce yourself to Maaz 
[17:33] <nuvolari> if you want to
[17:33] <jrgns> Maaz: I am Jurgens du Toit
[17:33] <Maaz> jrgns: Sure
[17:33] <HawkiesZA> Maaz: I am Gerrit Vermeulen
[17:33] <Maaz> HawkiesZA: Yessir
[17:33] <Kilos>  just type maaz i am full name Trixar_za 
[17:33] <superfly> Kilos: it's not logging in, it more like signing a register
[17:34] <Kilos> sorry
[17:34] <Trixar_za> Maaz: I am Brenton Scott
[17:34] <Maaz> Trixar_za: Okay
[17:34] <bakuman> Maaz, i am Jedri Visser
[17:34] <Maaz> bakuman: Righto
[17:34] <nuvolari> roukol - I don't know the english for that 
[17:34] <Trixar_za> Not my full name, because it's Brenton Edgar Scott and that's a little long
[17:34] <Trixar_za> :P
[17:34] <nuvolari> Maaz: topic 2. Review previous minutes
[17:34] <Maaz> Current Topic: 2. Review previous minutes
[17:34] <Kilos> lol like saying sign the register
[17:34] <nuvolari> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/07/16/%23ubuntu-za.html#t17:30
[17:35] <nuvolari> where's not_found?
[17:35] <plustwo> Maaz: I am Oupa Mokhine
[17:35] <Maaz> plustwo: Alrighty
[17:35] <nuvolari> he's missing out tonight
[17:36] <Kilos> yeah he said he would be here
[17:36] <nuvolari> alternatively, the txt log: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/07/16/%23ubuntu-za.txt
[17:36] <nuvolari> ah
[17:36]  * nlsthzn is late... sorry
[17:36] <Kilos> welcome nlsthzn 
[17:36] <nuvolari> nlsthzn: we were just talking about you
[17:36] <nlsthzn> lol
[17:36] <nuvolari> all good things
[17:36] <kbmonkey> hello all! o/
[17:36] <nuvolari> don't worry
[17:36] <nlsthzn> Maaz, I am Neil Oosthuizen
[17:36] <Maaz> nlsthzn: Alrighty
[17:36] <nlsthzn> ;)
[17:36] <nuvolari> apie is hier!
[17:37] <nuvolari> lo kbmonkey 
[17:37] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey sign in please
[17:37] <kbmonkey> Maaz, I am Wesley Werner
[17:37] <Maaz> kbmonkey: Righto
[17:37] <nuvolari> Kilos: sign attendance :P
[17:37] <Kilos> that thing ya
[17:37] <kbmonkey> nuvolari, :)
[17:38] <nuvolari> does anyone want to bring up something from the last meeting?
[17:38] <Kilos> nice to see you again kbmonkey 
[17:39] <nuvolari> no? 
[17:39] <nuvolari> ok
[17:39] <nuvolari> Maaz: topic 3. Administrativia & Announcements
[17:39] <Maaz> Current Topic: 3. Administrativia & Announcements
[17:39] <kbmonkey> thankyou Kilos. thanks for the reminder mail
[17:40] <Kilos> anytime
[17:40] <nuvolari> There's nothing administrative that I'm aware of
[17:40] <nuvolari> everything seems to be hunky dory
[17:41]  * nuvolari is bad at monologues
[17:41] <Kilos> hehe
[17:42] <Kilos> superfly, anything to add?
[17:42] <nlsthzn> I am responsible for "reporting"
[17:42] <nlsthzn> so I added the last meeting and sent out one e-mail...
[17:42] <Kilos> gonna be an easy one nlsthzn 
[17:42] <nlsthzn> not sure what else I was to do
[17:42] <nuvolari> I think that's covering the bases?
[17:42] <Kilos> no one has had UH or anythint
[17:42] <Kilos> g
[17:43] <nuvolari> as long as we do not not do it
[17:43] <nlsthzn> k... just don't want to drop the ball and miss anything and make us look bad :p
[17:44] <nuvolari> Maaz: accepted nlsthzn is doing well
[17:44] <Maaz> Accepted: nlsthzn is doing well
[17:44] <Kilos> we can never look bad, we too cute
[17:44] <nuvolari> ack. with the reporting... 
[17:44] <nuvolari> :P
[17:45] <nlsthzn> thx nuvolari , lol @ Kilos 
[17:45] <Kilos> ty nlsthzn 
[17:45]  * jrgns drops off. Thanx all
[17:45] <nuvolari> Maaz: topic 4. Events
[17:45] <Maaz> Current Topic: 4. Events
[17:45] <nlsthzn> I saw there was a call for some Jams again...
[17:46] <nuvolari> Right, the windy month is here and everything seems blown topsy turvy, but if there's a jam or 2 tha would be good
[17:46] <nlsthzn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam/
[17:47] <nuvolari> I know the durban people are discussing a Raspberry-Jam
[17:47] <nlsthzn> and pi?
[17:47] <nuvolari> lol
[17:47] <nuvolari> yeah
[17:47] <kbmonkey> i'm back, ssh hung :p
[17:47] <nlsthzn> awesome
[17:47] <nlsthzn> wb kb
[17:47] <nlsthzn> wb kbmonkey 
[17:48] <nuvolari> I'm not into the Raspberry thing yet, but I've seen an awesome post on google+
[17:48] <nuvolari> let me try to find it
[17:48] <nuvolari> hi magespawn 
[17:48] <nuvolari> welcome
[17:48] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[17:49] <nlsthzn> o/ magespawn 
[17:49] <Kilos> tell the bot your here
[17:49] <superfly> sorry Kilos busy making and eating supper
[17:49] <Kilos> np superfly 
[17:49] <nlsthzn> o/ superfly 
[17:49] <magespawn> Howdy
[17:49] <nuvolari> here we go: http://www.pcworld.com/article/260966/this_raspberry_pi_camera_grip_turns_your_dslr_into_a_smart_camera.html
[17:49]  * magespawn waves tp the room o/
[17:50] <Kilos> magespawn, sing in with maaz
[17:50] <kbmonkey> the Pi looks like a fun project
[17:50] <Kilos> sign
[17:50] <nuvolari> I think that's a very cool thing to do and the new features! I can only imagine
[17:50] <nuvolari> hi mazal 
[17:50] <mazal> Evening all
[17:50] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[17:51] <nuvolari> ah, it's called the Camera Pi
[17:51] <plustwo> o/ mazal
[17:51] <mazal> It's meeting yes ?
[17:51] <Kilos> yes mazal  sign in with maaz
[17:51] <nuvolari> mazal: affirmative
[17:51] <mazal> Maaz, I am Wikus van Dyk
[17:51] <Maaz> mazal: Righto
[17:52] <nuvolari> hmm, events topic is flatlining this month
[17:52] <Kilos> yip everyone just too busy
[17:52] <nlsthzn> busy time of year?
[17:52] <magespawn> Maaz I am Greg Eames
[17:52] <Maaz> magespawn: Sure
[17:53] <nuvolari> Any last words, thoughts, wishes before we move to electing the next meeting chair and closing?
[17:53] <Trixar_za> I vote for nuvolari as next chair
[17:53] <Trixar_za> :P
[17:53]  * Trixar_za runs
[17:54] <mazal> Done already :-(
[17:54] <queery> hi
[17:54] <nuvolari> why are you running away like a li'l girl Trixar_za? :P
[17:54] <queery> maaz i am dewald
[17:54] <Maaz> queery: Done
[17:54]  * nlsthzn might be able to stay awake @ work tomorrow :)
[17:54] <nuvolari> mazal: yeah :-/ there wasn't much on the agenda and everyone seems busy this month
[17:54] <queery> ok my adsl is not working so im on my phone, sorry for any delay
[17:54] <mazal> k
[17:55] <nuvolari> mazal: except if you have something exciting? :D
[17:55] <magespawn> Strange but seems to be a busy time ofnye
[17:55] <Kilos> np queery 
[17:55] <nlsthzn> o/ queery / mazal 
[17:55] <Kilos> ty for coming back
[17:55] <magespawn> Of year even
[17:55] <mazal> Not for the meeting no
[17:55] <nuvolari> we're open for any last topics
[17:55] <nlsthzn> so no other Jams :/
[17:55] <mazal> But I do have an interesting stat
[17:55] <queery> ubuntu hour
[17:56] <queery> we had one and it was fun
[17:56] <nuvolari> good :> we're still on events
[17:56]  * nlsthzn just remembers reading about it *face-palm* it wasn't added to the report (or it still needs to be added in any event)
[17:56] <kbmonkey> nuvolari, how bout an impromptu ubuntu hour this weekend? :D
[17:57] <nlsthzn> queery, link with photo's ... I think Maia posted a blog post yes?
[17:57] <Kilos> aw queery did you guys get picks
[17:57] <nuvolari> queery: growing in numbers, or not yet?
[17:57] <kbmonkey> is the meeting over? my ssh keeps lagging too badly
[17:57] <queery> she did
[17:57] <Kilos> and you can report on it to nlsthzn 
[17:57] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: I don't have anything planned and it's a good weekend
[17:57] <nlsthzn> queery, thanks... will add it etc. within the next week (first some sleep and work)
[17:57] <queery> we had 2extra
[17:57] <nuvolari> except for saSaturday morning
[17:57] <nuvolari> *saturday
[17:58] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: I'm in if you're in
[17:58] <nuvolari> should contact the others too
[17:58] <Kilos> nuvolari, try get william invloved
[17:58] <nuvolari> it seems that this way is the only way we ever get anything done :P
[17:58] <kbmonkey> okay, i'm in. yey.
[17:59] <nuvolari> Kilos: he's always up for it oom! it's us young ones that can't get around
[17:59] <Kilos> lol
[17:59] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: gateway, durbs?
[17:59] <Kilos> good to here
[17:59] <Trixar_za> bbl - Amazing Race time
[17:59] <Kilos> hear as well
[17:59] <queery> now how do you test a telefone line withpoit a phone
[17:59] <Trixar_za> Somehow I'm only addicted to it and Survivor
[17:59] <Trixar_za> everything else sucks
[17:59] <Kilos> queery, just push the wires in the 220
[18:00] <nlsthzn> >.<
[18:00] <Kilos> they will come see what happened soon and fix it
[18:00] <nuvolari> queery: depends on what kind of testing it needs :P (as long as an actual connection isn't required)
[18:01] <nuvolari> magespawn: you're not around this weekend are you?
[18:01] <queery> i just want tot know if there is a dial tone
[18:02] <Kilos> Trix[a]r_za, record it
[18:02] <magespawn> I do have to come down to Durbs, but was going to be on Wednesday
[18:02] <queery> its not the isp it has to be hellkom
[18:02]  * nlsthzn was wondering if any of the IRC lurkers wouldn't mind lurking in #ubuntu-ae cause we are struggling to build critical mass for technical help (even if it just points people to #ubuntu-beginners or #ubuntu)
[18:02] <Kilos> when nlsthzn 
[18:03] <Kilos> all the time
[18:03] <Kilos> ?
[18:03] <nlsthzn> basically... when ever on IRC
[18:03] <magespawn> nuvolari I will let you know if that changes
[18:03] <mazal> What's the ae stand for ?
[18:03] <nlsthzn> United Arab Emirates
[18:03] <nuvolari> magespawn: ok good
[18:03] <nlsthzn> building up and sustaining a LoCo is hard work :/
[18:03] <kbmonkey> gateway is fine, we can even to umdloti (some cafes by the seaside)
[18:03] <nuvolari> noooo
[18:04] <nuvolari> the netz are broken!
[18:04] <kbmonkey> do you need manouvoureability, nuvolari 
[18:04] <nuvolari> what do you mean by that kbmonkey ?
[18:04] <nuvolari> I like the idea of umdloti
[18:05] <nuvolari> been there once only
[18:05] <kbmonkey> oh i mean, you have a car to get around nuvolari :)
[18:06] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: oh ya, I'm good on that part :> 
[18:06] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[18:06] <magespawn> Did not even see myself go lol
[18:06] <Kilos> nuvolari, move on if there no more events
[18:07] <nuvolari> Maaz: topic 5. Elect chairperson for next meeting
[18:07] <Maaz> Current Topic: 5. Elect chairperson for next meeting
[18:07] <nlsthzn> +1 for nuvolari 
[18:07] <Kilos> nuvolari, ++
[18:07] <nlsthzn> ;)
[18:07] <mazal> +++
[18:07] <nuvolari> righto, ok, I'm up for it :)
[18:07] <Kilos> ty
[18:07] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[18:07] <Kilos> hehe
[18:07] <nuvolari> what's the date, the 2nd last monday?
[18:08] <nuvolari> whoa! deja-vu
[18:08] <Kilos> good connection you have there
[18:08] <magespawn> Lol
[18:08] <Kilos> 17th
[18:08] <nuvolari> Maaz: agreed next meeting chair nuvolari 
[18:08] <Maaz> Agreed: next meeting chair nuvolari
[18:08] <kbmonkey> I think nuvolari does a good job, thanks buddy XD
[18:08] <nlsthzn> +1
[18:08] <nuvolari> Maaz: agreed next meeting date September 17, 2012
[18:08] <Maaz> Agreed: next meeting date September 17, 2012
[18:08] <Kilos> not second last either
[18:09] <magespawn> Thats a glich in the matrix, they have changed something
[18:09] <bakuman> oh no!
[18:09] <nuvolari> wait, what did I miss?
[18:09] <Kilos> what bakuman ?
[18:10] <bakuman> a glitch in the matrix is always bad
[18:10] <magespawn>  [20:07] (nuvolari) whoa! deja-vu
[18:10] <nlsthzn> Gangnam Style?!
[18:10] <Kilos> hehe
[18:10] <magespawn>  [20:09] (magespawn) Thats a glich in the matrix, they have changed something
[18:10] <nuvolari> lol
[18:11] <nuvolari> Maaz: topic 6. Closing
[18:11] <Maaz> Current Topic: 6. Closing
[18:11] <nuvolari> So, that was that for tonight
[18:11] <nuvolari> thanks for attending everyone
[18:11] <Kilos> ty nuvolari  went smoothly
[18:11] <nlsthzn> thanks guys
[18:11] <nlsthzn> have an awesome month :)
[18:11] <nlsthzn> oh and don't forget - http://youtu.be/9bZkp7q19f0
[18:11] <Kilos> ty all attendees
[18:11] <nuvolari> Not as exciting as the last 2 times, but not dull either!
[18:12] <nuvolari> Be good in the community and practice Ubuntu to your fellow users :)
[18:12]  * nlsthzn goes for a shower and bed... good night ZA land... \m/ rock on...
[18:12] <mazal> Thanks all
[18:12] <mazal> Sleep well
[18:12] <Kilos> nuvolari, do you guys see the message from christel?
[18:12] <mazal> God bless
[18:13] <nuvolari> We'll see veeryone at the next meeting! Thanks for attending again!
[18:13] <Kilos> night nlsthzn 
[18:13] <Kilos> sleep tight
[18:13] <kbmonkey> gn nls	!
[18:13] <Kilos> nuvolari,  have you closed
[18:13] <nuvolari> not yet oom
[18:13] <nuvolari> night nlsthzn 
[18:14] <nuvolari> Maaz: end meeting
[18:14] <Maaz> Meeting Ended
[18:14] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-08-20-17-30-06.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-08-20-17-30-06.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-08-20-17-30-06.html
[18:14] <Kilos> kbmonkey, 
[18:14] <Kilos> we gotta work a way around them blocking irc 
[18:14] <nuvolari> who's blocking IRC oom Kilos ?
[18:14] <Kilos> cant you use the fox
[18:14] <magespawn> kbmonkey did you put up that github or bazaar repo?
[18:14] <Kilos> from his work
[18:15] <nuvolari> :O serious? kbmonkey ?
[18:15] <bakuman> just forward to another port Oom Kilos 
[18:16] <Kilos> tell kbmonkey bakuman 
[18:16] <Kilos> thats his excuse for ignoring us for a month
[18:16]  * Kilos ducks
[18:16] <bakuman> lol
[18:17] <Kilos> kbmonkey, coowee
[18:18] <kbmonkey> hi hi, soz, this 3g is making me mad tonight XD
[18:18] <nuvolari> he's treating oom Kilos like a stop sign
[18:18] <Kilos> lol
[18:18] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: convert to 8ta and your soul will be less troubled
[18:18] <Kilos> kbmonkey, where is the bot script
[18:18] <nuvolari> what ore you using btw? :P
[18:18] <Kilos> yeah kbmonkey 8ta rocks
[18:19] <kbmonkey> do you mean that bot script magespawn ?
[18:19] <nuvolari> *are
[18:19] <magespawn> Yes
[18:19] <kbmonkey> the ibid greeter plugin script is on my pc in pmb, I *still* haven't been back to copy it :p I know, I'm terrible
[18:20] <Kilos> lol
[18:20] <Kilos> you telling us
[18:20] <magespawn> No worries
[18:20] <Kilos> too lekker in durbs
[18:21] <kbmonkey> work is at a financial institution, they block ssh which I can use to irc. silly work.
[18:21] <Kilos> kbmonkey, is there no workaround?
[18:21] <queery> bye all
[18:21] <superfly> some IRC networks have port 80 open
[18:22] <kbmonkey> bye queery 
[18:22] <Kilos> toods queery 
[18:22] <Squirm> kbmonkey: how do they block it?
[18:23] <kbmonkey> that place is locked down. even the users cannot browse the net. only like management can. go figure ;)
[18:23] <nuvolari> oh oh! anyone using chrome/chromium: black menu chrome extension
[18:23] <nuvolari> provides access to all/most of google's services via a menu
[18:23] <Squirm> nuvolari: will have a look
[18:24] <kbmonkey> oooh really? will check it out nuvolari :)
[18:24] <nuvolari> I just need to keep on reminding myself to use it
[18:24] <nuvolari> :P
[18:25] <kbmonkey> oh for anyone using ssh, looksey at this adaptation. going to try it out. for slow connecctions ;) http://mosh.mit.edu/
[18:27] <Kilos> nuvolari, het die pc a wireless ding in
[18:27] <nuvolari> Kilos: nee oom, hy's nie so smart nie
[18:28] <Kilos> ek sien partykeer in nm dit se connected 7 mins ago
[18:28] <nuvolari> o.O
[18:28] <Kilos> kort dit nie net die antenna nie
[18:28] <kbmonkey> nuvolari, will chat on email about UH. sal William ook saamnooi + anyone else
[18:29] <Kilos> kbmonkey, do me a favour
[18:29] <Kilos> find out from william why he dont come on here
[18:29] <Kilos> i cant figure peeps
[18:30] <kbmonkey> Squirm, I guess it's a firewall block. But not the kind of place I can just ask to open up a port.
[18:30] <kbmonkey> sure thing @kilos
[18:30] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: cool! will see you on the lists!
[18:30] <Kilos> and any other ubuntu users that dont use irc
[18:30] <Kilos> ty
[18:31] <smile> bye :)
[18:32] <Kilos> sleep tight smile 
[18:32] <magespawn> kbmonkey  the tor?
[18:32] <Kilos> kbmonkey, ty for joining us tonight
[18:32] <kbmonkey> :]
[18:32] <smile> thanks Kilos :)
[18:33] <Kilos> yay
[18:33] <Kilos> net unslpit
[18:33] <Kilos> whew
[18:33] <Kilos> unsplit
[18:34] <kbmonkey> tor magespawn ? the anonymizer network? 
[18:34] <magespawn> Yup that might work
[18:34] <Kilos> a tor is a beatle/bug kinda thing
[18:36] <Kilos> hi acherv 
[18:36] <acherv> hi Kilos 
[18:36] <acherv> hi @all
[18:36] <magespawn> O/ acherv
[18:37] <kbmonkey> thanks nuvolari  for the chair. 
[18:37] <acherv> i'am late
[18:37] <acherv> can i have a log?
[18:37] <Kilos> acherv, rather
[18:38] <Kilos> magespawn, how we read logs
[18:38] <Squirm> kbmonkey: sorry
[18:38] <Squirm> maybe you can tunnel out?
[18:38] <kbmonkey> sorry to <3 you # and leave you. saying cheers for now. be back tomorrow even
[18:38] <acherv> the link ?
[18:38] <Kilos> toods kbmonkey keep well laddy
[18:38] <Squirm> get a server that listens on port 80
[18:39] <Squirm> you can't exactly tunnel past a proxy
[18:39] <kbmonkey> nope. all is blocked cept port 80. is okay, ill investigate the networks further...
[18:39] <Kilos> acherv, i dunno but someone will give it now
[18:39] <Squirm> unless it's transparent
[18:39] <Kilos> nuvolari, how do we get to our logs
[18:39] <acherv> tthx
[18:39] <Squirm> kbmonkey: that's what I'm saying. tunnel through port 80
[18:39] <magespawn>  [20:14] (Maaz) Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-08-20-17-30-06.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-08-20-17-30-06.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-08-20-17-30-06.html
[18:39] <Kilos> ty magespawn 
[18:40] <magespawn> [20:07] ** Topic: Ubuntu South Africa http://ubuntu-za.org || MMList: http://bit.ly/MCOujZ || PBin: http://paste.ubuntu.com || Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com || Next Meeting: Mon, 20 Aug 19:30, Agenda: http://bit.ly/LqWDYY || Twitter: https://twitter.com/ubuntuza
[18:40] <kbmonkey> indeed. thanks Squirm :)
[18:42]  * acherv like to know the topic maybe
[18:42] <acherv> magespawn: thx
[18:42] <magespawn> Np
[18:46] <Kilos> acherv, you been here before?
[18:47] <acherv> no 
[18:47] <Kilos> welcome to ubunt-za then
[18:47] <acherv> it's my first time 
[18:47] <Kilos> ubuntu-za
[18:47] <acherv> i'm a newcommer
[18:47] <acherv> yep
[18:47] <Kilos> do you use ubuntu?
[18:47] <acherv> of course
[18:47] <Kilos> nice to see new faces here
[18:48] <acherv> pleasure
[18:48] <Kilos> where is za are you?
[18:50] <Kilos> *in
[18:53] <Kilos> acherv, ^^
[18:53] <acherv> joburg
[18:53] <acherv> abd U?
[18:54] <Kilos> ptown
[18:54] <acherv> ptown?
[18:54] <Kilos> pta
[18:54] <acherv> ook
[18:54] <Kilos> there quite a few of our guys there
[19:05] <Kilos> night guys. sleep tight
[19:37] <magespawn> Night all
[19:57] <nuvolari> I'm out
[19:57] <nuvolari> 'night
[20:27] <Squirm> night nuvolari 
[20:34] <Squirm> oh, that was 30min ago:P
[20:36]  * zeref :YawwwwnnnnNs:
[20:36] <Squirm> zeref: much luck with the comression issue?
[20:36] <Squirm> compression*
[20:36] <Squirm> my spelling has gone to the dogs tonight
[20:38] <zeref> yeah, got th cd. tried first my removing that dubious bptfz file, rebooted. BSOD
[20:39] <zeref> so friend just asked to fresh install
[20:39] <zeref> s/to/for/
[20:40] <Squirm> should have just tried a repair
[20:42] <zeref> yeah, i gave him that option
[20:43] <zeref> but he said clean install would remove the viruses :P
[20:43] <zeref> should have asked: "what are viruses?" ;)
[20:45] <Squirm> mkay
[20:46] <Squirm> well, I'm off
[20:46] <zeref> cheers
[22:30] <zeref> hmmm, whats that site called were you can get involved in fixing bugs?