[04:39] morning [05:39] hrr :-/ [05:39] "Seeing you are so good with the photo club website and seem to be an IT techi etc I would like to ask you a question. [05:39] [05:39] Would you be able to help me to unlock our wi-fi modem." [05:40] website != modem [05:52] lol but modem and website has both to do with the internet, so you MUST be an expert on both [05:55] Does the monthly meetings take long? [06:00] depends [06:00] but usually less than an hour [06:00] although talking can carry on past that [06:00] some times start 5-10min late [06:00] waiting for people to arrive [06:01] ah cool, will try to sit in tonight [06:27] good morning sleepy heads!! [06:32] morning SubOracle [06:32] >.< [06:32] morning superfly [06:32] yo nlsthzn === Tonberry is now known as Guest18800 [07:00] my first take at designing a blog: http://beinganengineer3.blogspot.com/2012/08/blog-designing.html [07:01] I think my next mission will be to forget it and stick to templates hehe [07:17] the numbered list and the red line in the background overlap on http://beinganengineer3.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-last-24-hours-of-24.html [07:29] I saw that tonberryE352 but my blog's template was used straight from source, I'll start editing my template next, most of my time went into my wife's template [07:30] And its been a while since I've done some HTML editing, so even her's is a work in progress, such as the stupid search bar, need to fix that [07:31] oh i see [07:32] still looks way better than the html i write... [07:32] would help if I could properly use CSS... [07:33] but I saw the issue with the numbered list after I posted it, but I was on my way for a a day's leave, so didn't worry hehe [07:34] CSS is great!! And those templates are based on an XML template, so I did not create it from scratch [08:49] evening superfly and others [08:50] yo jurgie [08:51] Maaz, announce Don't forget the meeting tonight at 19.30 peeps [08:51] Hear ye, hear ye! Don't forget the meeting tonight at 19.30 peeps [08:52] will try to be here [09:00] any of you guys/gals teachers, principles or in any way involved with education? Want to ask your input on an ill defined question [09:04] ask anyway DigiGram must be lotsa opinions here [09:05] well, the question is: what is the differances and similiarities between mini-independant education systems and mini-dependant education systems [09:05] tonberryE352, Guest18800 bad connection other side [09:06] the issue is the subject does not give a definition for [in]dependant systems, but the lecturer mentioned its dependance upon the "students" [09:06] stupid question IMHO, so hopefully the TA will clarify it quickly, I hope [09:15] eish [09:20] morning inetpro [09:21] helo kilos [09:25] hiya maiatoday dont forget tonights meet hey. goosie wont be here [09:25] ok I'll do my best [09:25] ty [09:34] morning all! [09:34] hi there sflr long time no see [09:35] you forgot us hey? [09:35] hey Kilos! not at all :) life got busy :| [09:35] oh my [09:35] you all well sflr [09:35] ? [09:44] hi nlsthzn [09:44] prepaid manager looks good tumbleweed will save lotsa sim changes ty [09:44] if it could only see the data as well [09:45] alo uncle Kilos [09:45] dont forget tonight hey neil [09:46] Getting a bit late... first it was 19:00 and now I see it is 19:30... I should make it... at least the first half in any case :) [09:50] hi Kilos [09:51] no man always been 19.30 isnt it? [09:51] did you use my right addy for that mail superfly ? [09:57] jammer Kilos, things are hectic round here. can you just mail me a reminder please? [09:57] np superfly will do ty [10:09] this has been a bad year for spare time it seems. everyone super busy all the time [10:10] luckily not many peeps need help anymore [10:10] only me [10:10] the rest of us just suck it up [10:11] hehe [10:11] few years back this channel really worked [10:12] spose thats the modern way. put more in and get less out [10:12] >.> ah the good old days ... when the internet worked on parafien [10:13] ha ha ha [10:15] and people knew about IRC [10:20] hi falling [10:21] hi. [10:21] ah you been here before [10:21] yes. [10:21] si i see [10:21] so [10:27] okay I know it's not what you guys spend your time with, but in Winblows, is there a way to using something like the AT command to run a program say 5minutes after startup? [10:28] otherwise I'll need start a counter at startup and wait 5minutes then excecute, but I'm trying not to install extra stuff [10:28] DigiGram, can't you make a bat file and something like the pause command (can't remember if you can add a timer) [10:28] DigiGram: Try making an counter with VBScript? :) [10:29] pause waits until the user pressees a key, but I can use ping 127.0.0.1 -w1000 -n3600 >nul as a pause maybe [10:29] DigiGram: yes, you can :) [10:30] thats what I normally use but timed to wait 3 seconds, not 5minutes, should work I guess [10:30] why oh why couldn't they just use Ubuntu on the lab computers... [10:30] lol [10:31] DigiGram: dual boot ;) [10:32] that will make the issue larger hehe. I don't work on those PC's, I just need to backup them regularly [10:32] and I don't like BackupPC, so I wrote one using cygwin's version of rsync [10:33] but I need to wait until the WiFi is connected before I can start the script [10:33] DigiGram: I see [10:33] :) [10:33] DigiGram: just install some additional programs. The full adobe suite and some games ;) [10:33] issue solved xD [10:33] hehe === falling is now known as lets-smile [10:34] ^^ :) [10:34] hehe [10:34] the PC's range from Pentium I's, to i3's, Win95 to Win7 (and my lone Ubuntu Server) [10:35] sjoe [10:35] what place uses old pcs like that still? [10:36] Kilos they are used on very old equipment that only works on 8bit [10:36] ah [10:37] so as we upgrade those equipment (a few hunder thousand Rands at a time), we dump those pc's and get newer ones, but until then.. [10:37] they won't buy a new R3M Xray machine just so I can rather use Win 7 on it than Win2000 lol [10:38] lol [10:38] and the equipment doesn't support any Linux, most of it can't even be used without MS Office installed, not other office suite works for them, wth [10:38] xp is easier and more managable than win7 methinks [10:39] depends, but I quite like 7, some good issues were adressed [10:39] almost as good as ubuntu 10.04 now [10:40] haha === lets-smile is now known as smile [11:05] brb [11:33] hi psydroid [11:34] so what does the Ubuntu community think of iOS? and the iPad 3rd gen for that matter? [11:36] I can only speak for myself. The products itself is cool enough, but I do not like Apple, and the fact that if you get one apple product you basically need to replace everything with apple, otherwise it is useless [11:39] hi Kilos [11:39] hi Digigram and bakuman [11:39] hi psydroid bakuman [11:39] hi hi [11:40] hi hi [11:40] :) [11:40] bakuman I hear you, but currenly I have nothing on my iPad that I feel does not work on my Windows PC, haven't tried it with Ubuntu yet [11:41] maybe just because it's jailbroken, don't know [11:41] my cousin even told me she is getting frustrated by the limitations of her iPhone and iPad [11:42] we deal with bug, they deal with limitations [11:42] yes the limitations is frustrating [11:42] I'm used to Android, so the iPad is very limiting [11:42] even when JB [11:50] another question, anyone here working for an Engineering company, such as Sasol, Eskom or similiar? [11:58] DigiGram: I'm writing this from my rooted, flashed Kindle Fire, running the latest Android. You can't do that with Apple. [12:00] Yeah I know, my ARMv6 Samsung Galaxy Ace has ICS now (Jelly Bean is still Beta) [12:00] Apple will never support devices that far [12:18] Symmetria: do you still have access to mirror.ac.za? apparently ambo doesn't atm [12:20] is it the TENET mirror? [12:20] yes [12:21] ah [12:21] I love being on the TENET ring, speeds are awesome [12:28] agreed [12:29] are there any speedtest.net servers on TENET somewhere? will love to see the speed [12:29] but I get this to Cell C's server in Jhb: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2120673249.png === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [13:44] I think I have too much work for tonight, if I miss the meeting tonight I'll check the logs tomorrow [14:16] cheers, maybe I'll be around for the meeting, I hope === DigiGram is now known as DigiGram_away === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [16:10] . [16:10] yo nuvolari [16:11] hi oom Kilos [16:11] * nuvolari kyk die agenda uit [16:11] i think we gonna be min here tonight [16:11] meh :-/ [16:11] well, we had 2 great meetings to buffer this one [16:12] ons sal maar sien. daar is niks nuut op agenda nie ne? [16:12] ek't niks bygesit nie oom [16:12] ja, die agenda is maar eil [16:12] ek ook konnie dink aan iets nie, te besig met die dom unity [16:13] kry xfce oom [16:13] dis nie so gesukkel nie [16:13] it really doesnt work well with externals [16:13] baie meer soos gnome2 [16:13] nee als werk maar so stadig teenoor maverick [16:13] xfce oom? [16:13] oh [16:13] welcome smile [16:14] nee man xubuntu is nie selle nie [16:14] thanks nuvolari [16:14] probably not the best dinner, but biltong is darm maar lekker [16:14] nuvolari: bodhi linux is die snelste ;) [16:14] ^^ [16:14] eish now my mouth is watering [16:14] smile: I tried it, but with 2 screens it was a bit of a headache wrt. fokus and desktop switching [16:15] *focus [16:15] im sure im missing something thats all, and i said i will give unity a fair chance [16:15] nuvolari: install lubuntu-core over bodhi ;) [16:17] smile: hmm, maybe I expressed myself wrong :P I meant to say that I have tried enlightenment, not bodhi itself [16:17] nuvolari: Oh I see. Bodhi has the nicest Enlightenment implementation of all [16:17] So give it a try :) [16:18] smile: dual screen handling? [16:18] and if you don't like it, install lubuntu-core [16:18] :p [16:18] nuvolari: I hope so. every day new version arriving === smile is now known as Oer === Oer is now known as smile [16:34] evening [16:34] good evening, Squirm :p [16:35] hi Squirm [16:38] anything I can add to the agenda? [16:38] where can I find it? [16:38] found it [16:38] Maaz: agenda [16:38] nuvolari: Huh? [16:38] top [16:38] hmm [16:38] Maaz: meeting.agenda [16:38] nuvolari: meeting.agenda is http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/446/detail/ [16:39] http://bit.ly/LqWDYY [16:39] ty [16:39] nothing much really [16:39] in the topics bar at the top of xchat. dunno what you guys use [16:39] looks like it's going to be a hello, hi, bye meeting [16:40] maybe we can add some unity gripes [16:40] hehe [16:40] yeah [16:40] I was about to say I don't really see anything :P [16:41] awww, dayly squee: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kXE05lBbb3g/UDIrFTaCARI/AAAAAAAAzhU/9IgFbBOcTUo/w497-h373/268631_412420568793812_585430064_n%255B1%255D.jpg [16:41] going over last minutes will use most of the time [16:41] +1 on that [16:41] lol [16:42] oh well there cant always be new and important things to discuss [16:42] we can discuss why all you geeks got less freetime this year than last year [16:43] cause last year I wasn't really working [16:43] this year, on the otherhand... [16:43] speaking of which. [16:43] * nuvolari wasn't working as hard [16:43] * Squirm might be slow [16:43] * Squirm gets studying [16:43] ya but everyone else seems to just be that much busier [16:44] rather, I had less responsibilities [16:44] lies nuvolari, you never spoke [16:44] ...ever [16:44] eh? [16:44] haha he helped me lots Squirm [16:44] Squirm: so you mean I say more this year round? [16:45] well, I've spoken to you more this year than last [16:45] hmm, good point [16:46] last time we really spoke a lot was before I was in Ballito [16:46] I actually think that's the last time I was there [16:47] locu [16:47] er [16:47] rage [16:47] yep [16:47] the bad thing about dvorak is that if you missplace your fingers, you might just type something that still makes sense :P [16:47] *misplace [16:47] lol [16:49] nuvolari: have you done any LPIC? [16:49] I mean, the exams [16:49] noo :-/ [16:50] ok [16:50] after my exam on Friday, I'm going to look at getting them [16:50] 1,2 and 3 [16:50] Maaz: coffee on [16:50] * Maaz puts the kettle on [16:51] Maaz: coffee please [16:51] nuvolari: Now now, we don't want anyone getting caffeine overdoses [16:51] Maaz: coffee please [16:51] Squirm: Yessir [16:51] Maaz: end meeting [16:51] nuvolari: Sorry, no meeting in progress. [16:51] lol [16:51] clever bot [16:52] Squirm: are you going to study it full-time? [16:52] nuvolari: no [16:52] I have my RHCSA exam on Friday [16:52] so hopefully that will help for my LPICs [16:52] and hopefully my LPICs will help for my RHCE I want to do next year [16:53] whoa! awesome :D [16:53] I don't know [16:53] that's if I pass [16:54] * nuvolari was at a split in the road between development or linux [16:54] Coffee's ready for nuvolari and Squirm! [16:55] yeee [16:55] thanks Maaz [16:55] * Squirm sips [16:55] thanks Maaz [16:55] Maaz: botsnack [16:55] Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well [16:55] nuvolari: yeah, I'm not a big dev fan [16:56] hi HawkiesZA [16:56] I am :P [16:56] welcome HawkiesZA [16:56] hello HawkiesZA [16:57] Evening ya'll [16:58] i go have supper quick guys [16:58] enjoy [17:03] Squirm: when you're around ballito again, there is one shop you have to buy biltong from [17:03] nuvolari: I can make my own biltong :P [17:04] ok, when you get the urge to buy someone else's biltong :P [17:05] actually [17:05] I lie [17:05] I was in Ballito in April [17:05] stopped at the Lifestyle centre :P [17:05] heh [17:05] close enough [17:07] lol [17:17] sigh [17:17] tummy full eyes pulling closed [17:20] * nuvolari voel nou so [17:20] klein hondjie sindroom [17:20] lol [17:22] i sorry not staying long === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [17:22] will be late for meeting [17:22] why queery [17:22] hi there [17:22] hello hi [17:23] welcome queery, jrgns [17:23] hi all [17:23] ai queery, te haastig [17:23] still driving and phone dying [17:23] i might drop off early [17:23] eish queery bad planning [17:23] keep n phone charger in the car [17:23] driving to quaqua tomorrow [17:23] queery: then put down your phone and arrive rather than be the dying one in your circumstances :P [17:23] dont have one [17:24] im on 0km/h at the moment... [17:24] ah [17:24] haha [17:24] then you aren't going anywhere [17:25] 0km/h in which direction? [17:25] anyway thanks for letting us know queery [17:25] I bet you're always travelling downwards [17:25] maybe just login when we start [17:25] 5 mins [17:26] jrgns, gonna be a short meet where you going? [17:26] wife's coming home :P [17:26] ah [17:26] jrgns: so you're leaving :p [17:26] it's not like we're sharing pr0n links [17:26] lol [17:26] let her sit on your lap by the pc [17:26] hehe [17:26] dude [17:26] lol [17:26] lol [17:27] she doesn't like sharing me with the computer [17:27] then get her a computer too [17:27] yeah they dont [17:27] she has one, but doesn't like it. i even got her a pink one, doesn't help [17:27] :-/ [17:27] nuvolari, het jy al gekyk of Maaz jou like [17:27] nee noggie oom [17:27] hahaha [17:28] check gou seun [17:28] hoe nou weer oom? [17:28] Maaz: jump [17:28] How high? [17:28] lol [17:28] Maaz: so high [17:28] nuvolari: Excuse me? [17:28] Maaz: you're excused [17:28] nuvolari: *blink* [17:28] oh, she's a female [17:28] * nuvolari blinks back [17:29] Maaz, are you female [17:29] Come on, be realistic. I'm a Bot [17:29] Maaz: are you a female bot? [17:29] nuvolari: Sorry... [17:29] :O [17:29] tranny? [17:29] Maaz: we still love you [17:29] nuvolari: *blink* [17:30] nuvolari, probeer iets wat jy in die meet moet gebruik en sien of hy luister [17:30] Maaz: start meeting about Monthly IRC Meeting [17:30] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [17:30] yay [17:30] yup. dit werk :> [17:30] Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt [17:30] nuvolari: Alrighty [17:30] Howdy everyone [17:30] Maaz, I am Miles Sharpe [17:30] Kilos: Alrighty [17:30] welcome to tonight's meeting [17:30] Maaz, welcome [17:30] Welcome to tonights meeting everyone [17:30] we're not that high in numbers, but we are here [17:30] we are sparta! [17:31] :P [17:31] hehe [17:31] Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman [17:31] superfly: Done [17:31] bakuman, Banlam login [17:31] hi superfly [17:31] There isn't much planned for the meeting, so I guess tonight will be a quick meeting (depending on surprises) [17:32] Trixar_za, come on login [17:32] welcome superfly :> [17:32] Login? [17:32] oh dear [17:32] Maaz: topic 1. Welcoming and introduction [17:32] Current Topic: 1. Welcoming and introduction [17:32] we're acutally kind of past point 1 :P [17:33] Trixar_za: introduce yourself to Maaz [17:33] if you want to [17:33] Maaz: I am Jurgens du Toit [17:33] jrgns: Sure [17:33] Maaz: I am Gerrit Vermeulen [17:33] HawkiesZA: Yessir [17:33] just type maaz i am full name Trixar_za [17:33] Kilos: it's not logging in, it more like signing a register [17:34] sorry [17:34] Maaz: I am Brenton Scott [17:34] Trixar_za: Okay [17:34] Maaz, i am Jedri Visser [17:34] bakuman: Righto [17:34] roukol - I don't know the english for that [17:34] Not my full name, because it's Brenton Edgar Scott and that's a little long [17:34] :P [17:34] Maaz: topic 2. Review previous minutes [17:34] Current Topic: 2. Review previous minutes [17:34] lol like saying sign the register [17:34] http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/07/16/%23ubuntu-za.html#t17:30 [17:35] where's not_found? [17:35] Maaz: I am Oupa Mokhine [17:35] plustwo: Alrighty [17:35] he's missing out tonight [17:36] yeah he said he would be here [17:36] alternatively, the txt log: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/07/16/%23ubuntu-za.txt [17:36] ah [17:36] * nlsthzn is late... sorry [17:36] welcome nlsthzn [17:36] nlsthzn: we were just talking about you [17:36] lol [17:36] all good things [17:36] hello all! o/ [17:36] don't worry [17:36]