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xubuntu987hi, I just installed xubuntu, but i don't seem to have a window manager01:14
xubuntu987After I log into the loging manager I get nada01:15
xubuntu987anz ideas?01:15
xubuntu987oh sorry, it finallz seems to have worked.01:15
xubuntu987updating and upgrading seem to have paid off. False alarm...01:15
ochosigood01:19
genii-aroundAgain. After updates. My ubuntu, kubuntu, and lubuntuare gone and the only option in lightdm is xubuntu01:20
ochosisounds perfect :)01:20
genii-aroundHm01:20
ochosi(hope you don't mind sarcasm)01:21
xubuntu987yes, sorry about that it's been a while01:21
xubuntu987what's the best way to get texlive >2009 installed?01:21
xubuntu987use the installer from tex-live? (and not apt-get)01:22
xubuntu987will there be any problems if I do this?01:22
UnknownForkWhat directory is xfconf located in again?01:38
Unit193/usr/lib/xfce4/xfconf01:38
UnknownForkthanks01:40
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dottlehello05:01
dottletrying to install xubuntu, the install locks up before it really gets started05:02
dottleget the splash screen with the slidy bar, then dark screen, then second splash screen with mouse cursor. The arrow changes to a circle and starts to rotate, then freezes05:03
dottleanyone with any ideas what I can try?05:03
hanslandahello there, can anyone help me? i think its easy to do, but im very new to linux...i was changing some sound settings on XFCE and now i have no sound, just microfone..anyone?05:05
dottletry alsamixer, run it in a terminal05:05
dottleafter you get sound back you need to save settings or they will revert when you boot05:06
dottleto save type: sudo alsacntl store05:06
dottlethe one that made me silent was the "line" setting, it kept going to zero05:07
hanslandahello there, can anyone help me? i think its easy to do, but im very new to linux...i was changing some sound settings on XFCE and now i have no sound, just microfone..anyone?05:10
hanslandahttp://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-20-08-2012-020810.php05:10
tychehanslanda: make that sudo alsactl store05:10
hanslandaand then..05:11
tycheIn alsamixer (sudo alsamixer) press F6 and choose the output you want to use.  Then exit and use the sudo alsactl store to keep it on reboots.05:11
tycheWhen you're in the F6 and choose what you want, you can raise and lower the volume by using the up-arrow and down-arrow keys.05:12
tycheIf you're using xubuntu, then you may also have to tell PulseAudio to not use any other outputs than what your speakers are plugged into.05:14
hanslandaim sorry, but i did that steps and still mute05:14
hanslandaabout pulseaudio i didnt make any change yet05:15
dottletrying to install xubuntu and it locks up05:15
tycheI had that problem in particular, since my speakers are BOSE USB speakers - and PulseAudio was defaulting to my monitor (which is HDMI) or my on board sound card (which was worthless).05:15
tycheIn alsamixer, you also have a spot that says 'Auto Mute' and it's enabled.  I've never seen that before on any of my machines.05:17
dottleme neither05:17
hanslandaweird05:18
tychedottle: what do you have for a system?05:18
dottlecan you de-select that one?05:18
dottletyche: it is an old intel05:18
dottlecobbled together05:18
dottletwo disk drives and a cd-rom05:18
dottle1.5 gig mem05:19
tycheYour video may be locking it up.  I had problems with an older machine not being able to install Ubuntu - the screen turned to large pixel hash.05:19
dottlescreen looks good, nice picture05:19
tycheI've had the same thing happen with a new machine, where Ubuntu couldn't figure out what video card I had.05:20
dottleI think its a pci=e ati 6800 video card05:20
tycheI'm not familiar with ATI's, but that sounds fairly recent.05:20
dottleabout year 100505:21
dottle200505:21
tycheLOL, there's a bit of a difference, there.  About a thousand years.05:21
dottlejust before gpu access became available05:21
dottleheheh05:21
tycheWhere in the installation process is it locking up?05:21
dottle<--- time traveller05:21
hanslandai will reboot..see you in 2 min05:21
tycheYea.  Right.05:21
dottleI get the first splash screen ok05:22
dottlethen it goes dark, and I get the second splash screen05:22
dottlethe mouse pointer appears05:22
dottlethen it turns to a circle, goes about 40 minutes around the face and freezes05:22
dottle40 minutes = not quite 3/4 of 1 pass05:23
tycheDid you check the md5 sum of the download?05:23
dottleyes, did the check disk function and it was fine05:23
dottleI have burned it on dvd, and cd05:24
tycheStill sounds like something is corrupt.05:24
dottleand I have tried with the ubuntu disk, as well05:24
tycheDid you use the slowest burning speed available to your system and software?05:24
dottlewas not able to slow it down with brassero05:24
dottletold it to do 4x and it did 40x anyway05:25
dottlestill have both iso's on this box05:25
tycheI usually use K3B, because it's more flexible, and I can control more.05:25
dottlethis box is ubuntu 12.04 running xfce05:25
tycheIt will also read the MD5 sum of the .iso05:26
dottleI think I burned the cd with k3b, it checked the md5 sum before and after05:26
dottlesaid it was ok05:26
tycheIf you've got Ubuntu 12.04, then you can just put KDE and XFCE (Xubuntu) on top of it, and select at login.05:26
dottletrying to get a second box up05:26
dottlewant to play with vnc05:27
tycheLOL.  Understood.  That's why I have four partitions on a terabyte drive.05:27
dottlewhat could cause a hang at that point in the process?05:27
tycheInfinite loop.05:28
tycheAnd, without seeing where it actually was in the process, I'd have no way of knowing what held it up.05:28
dottleis it loading modules there?05:28
tycheIt might be.  Like I said, I don't know.  There used to be a way to hit <Esc> and see the action on screen.  I don't know if that still works.05:29
dottleis there a way to get a trace?05:29
dottleI'll try, when does one hit esc?05:29
tycheSorry, not that much of a programmer/developer.  In fact, I'm NO type of programmer/developer05:30
tycheFrom grub, as soon as the splash screen comes up.05:30
tycheI'm not sure from the install.05:30
dottlegenerating locales05:31
dottlecomplet05:31
dottlechange passwd failed05:31
dottlenice, I cant type that fast05:32
tycheJust tell me when it stops processing things.05:32
dottleok, that cool screen went away, then I got the second splash screen and the lock up05:33
dottlecould not hit esc to see anything05:33
dottlethere is a white square on the bottom right of the screen, but I can't see what it might be saying05:34
hanslandahello there, can anyone help me? i think its easy to do, but im very new to linux...i was changing some sound settings on XFCE and now i have no sound, just microfone working..anyone?05:34
tycheOK.  dottle I'm sorry, but you've just hit the end of what I'd know to do. (Perpetual n00bie - just too much for this old man to know).  You need someone that's in the devs, I think.  Or at least someone more knowledgeable than I am.05:35
tychehanslanda: Did you make the changes in PulseAudio?05:35
dottleok, thanks for trying tyche , at least I now know about that cool esc function05:35
hanslandai dont know what changes i have to make...im very very dumb ..i think im going back to windows05:36
tycheYea, and I know it still works, from your trying to type the trace.  :-)05:36
dottleit went quite a ways, too. just not far enuf05:36
tychehanslanda: PulseAudio Control (Applications->Sound & Video -> PulseAudio Control), go to the Configuration tab.05:37
tycheThat should show you all the output devices you have on your machine.05:38
hanslandatyche, cant find applications sound and video settings05:41
tycheIf you're in Xubuntu, it might be in a different place.  Look around.05:41
tycheIt may be under system settings05:42
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xubuntu064hi, i just installed xubuntu 12.04 and i have problem with the bottom panel bar08:51
xubuntu064when i open multiple applications, the panel is to short and i cant acces some things anymore, how to fix or avoid this?08:52
TheSheepmake it longer?08:55
xubuntu064it is on full length08:55
xubuntu064but i would expect that the panel moves to left or right. when its 'full'08:56
TheSheepthat's not possible08:57
TheSheepbut it should never grow larger than your screen08:57
xubuntu064so it will happen often that icons are just offscreen?08:59
TheSheepthat should not happen09:00
xubuntu064is there an other way to have an overview of all the applications that are open, beside the use of this bottom panel?09:03
TheSheepxubuntu064: there are like 4 panel plugins that give you an overview of open windows, and the middle click on the desktop09:05
izrailhi there09:05
aquixxubuntu064  ps shows all open processes ..use it like this     ps aux                   or search for a process like this ps aux | grep  PROCESS09:05
izraili am searching for a solution to get a "mandatory user profile" on xubuntu09:06
TheSheepizrail: isn't that a windows thing?09:07
izrailbackground: i am using xubuntu as alternative OS in a lab environment at university fulda. what i need is a local user account that my students can use (and modify and crash) ... after re-login, i want the account to be in the initial state again09:08
izrailTheSheep yes indeed ... but i am trying to get rid of windows in the lab :)09:08
TheSheepizrail: one thing that comes to mind is deleting the user's home directory on logout09:09
izraili thought of copying the complete $HOME to /etc/skel and then forcing deletion of the $HOME on logout ... at next login /etc/skel would be copied back to $HOME ...09:09
izrailnot sure is this is the best solution09:09
izrailright :)09:09
izrailbut this can't be done using .bash_logout, can it?09:10
izrail.bash_logout can't delete itself ...09:10
TheSheepthere might be something more ready out there, but I never needed anything like this, so I didn't look09:10
xubuntu064TheSheep, could you tell me some of these plugins to get an overview?09:10
TheSheepizrail: plus, students could just edit it before logging out09:10
TheSheepxubuntu064: just look throught the list in the panel settings, really09:11
izrailTheSheep good point ... danm09:11
TheSheepizrail: the 'safe' way of doing it would be to set the user's shell to a script that runs bash and then deletes the home09:12
izrailhmh ... that's not a bad idea09:12
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izrailalternatively i found that gdm has something called PostSession ...09:13
izrailis there something similar to xubuntus login manager?09:13
TheSheepI'm not that familiar with lightdm09:14
izrail# session-cleanup-script = Script to run when quitting a user session (runs as root)09:15
izraili will try this first :)09:15
izrailthe backup solution will be to modify the users shell09:15
izrailthanks TheSheep :)09:15
pimperlehi09:16
pimperleare there any things to consider when running xubuntu on an encrypted ssd? Like special filesystem options to help the wear leveling?09:17
MJBrune-Workhey hey09:17
TheSheeppimperle: the usual options for ssd09:20
TheSheeppimperle: http://askubuntu.com/questions/1400/how-do-i-optimize-the-os-for-ssds09:21
pimperleTheSheep: thanks!09:21
pimperledo you have a hint on which one to buy? are there obviously bad choices? or can i just go and pick the topseller from amazon or something the likeß09:23
TheSheepyou could ask on ##hardware maybe09:23
pimperleok, thanks09:23
izrailworks perfect :)09:55
izraillightdm has session-setup-script and session-cleanup-script variables. i defined a cleanup script, that deletes the $HOME and copies it back from a backup location, where i store the clean profile09:56
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stefy97100Hi...14:30
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Guest96020I am in??14:59
Guest96020Come faccio ad impostare un nome utente in luogo di "Guest96020"?15:00
Pici!it15:01
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)15:01
Guest96020Oh, hi. No prob with using EN. I'd just like to know how can I change my nickname from "Guestxxxxx" to another one! Thank u so much guyz.15:02
PiciGuest96020: type /nick something15:02
Guest96020Ok15:03
Guest96020c.lisco15:03
Guest96020aaah15:04
Guest96020it doesn't work. what am i doing wrong with that command? sorry to bother you guys :D15:04
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cliscook, simply i could not use points, commas and so on in the nickname. thanku15:06
clisco!it15:10
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)15:10
fAz4hi15:53
fAz4i just installed xubuntu-desktop15:53
fAz4and all the Icons are ordered wrong on the panel15:53
xubuntu607Hello, can i run xubuntu on a 1,80hz amd sepron with 256ram?16:17
Azelphuryes but *buntu probably isn't the best for such an old machine, it tends to eat up a bit more RAM than that16:18
Azelphurit'd run, just probably not all that fast16:18
ochosii agree, if it runs, it'd be rather slowish16:18
ochosi(not even talking about launching e.g. a web-browser)16:18
AzelphurYou'd be better off with something lighter, like debian+lxde16:18
xubuntu607cool i havent had the chance to try debian yet16:21
Murtaughusing the alternate install disk, it is possible to run xubuntu on that machine, but 512mb of ram is higly recomended16:23
Murtaugh*highly16:23
MurtaughYou could look into DSL, they released a new version recently, and it's still debian based16:25
Murtaughhuh, I just booted my desktop, and idle ram usage is 177mb o_O16:26
MurtaughThen again, this would be using under 200mb of ram if I killed firefox.16:33
Moonshiner24mUK i need some compilation help17:04
Moonshiner24mUK* __stas__ (~kvirc@83.149.8.156) has joined #ndiswrapper17:05
Moonshiner24mUK<Moonshiner24mUK> new kernel out on 12.04 ubuntu/xubuntu17:05
Moonshiner24mUK* __stas__ (~kvirc@83.149.8.156) has left #ndiswrapper ("Once you know what it is you want to be true, instinct is a very useful device for enabling you to know that it is")17:05
Moonshiner24mUK<Moonshiner24mUK> http://pastebin.com/mG6vNbfE17:05
Moonshiner24mUK<Moonshiner24mUK> heres the error log and the problem17:05
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Riley24hey is anyone here18:48
pleia2!anybody18:49
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.18:49
pleia2:)18:49
Riley24hey guys i was wandering if there was anyway to activate the ati driver but use the x,org conf instead for options18:49
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Riley24because for whatever reason the control center does not do anything for tearing even with tearfree desktop on i really need my driver activated though to prevent overheating18:50
Riley24do yall know what im talking about lol18:51
Riley24for somereason amdcccle does not do anything for me with screen tearing and its driving me crazy18:52
recon_lapRiley24: sorry no idea, maybe someone else might, you'll have to wait and see ;) you can also try as in ubuntu channel19:01
Riley24yea right19:03
Riley24i cant get anything out of them lol19:03
vorsorkenIs it possible to leave wifi on and connected during suspend?19:59
shpanknope.20:01
shpankbut it's not a linux limitation20:01
vorsorkenthought that might be the case, thanks20:01
shpankbut they're developing something20:02
shpanki think in win8 it's possible20:02
shpankwith certain chipsets20:02
shpankalways-connected20:02
pAt_+20:03
XbooXhello20:26
XbooXthat captcha is very hard to read lol20:26
PhantorGorthevening21:07
Unit193Howdy.21:07
PhantorGorthhi Unit193.21:08
PhantorGorthanyone able to suggest additional ideas on how to get sound working when all the usual tricks fail?21:08
SkippersBoss/dev/usual tricks21:09
SkippersBossdev/ fail21:09
SkippersBoss!details | PhantorGorth21:10
ubottuPhantorGorth: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."21:10
PhantorGorth(usual as in check that the driver is installed, check that nothing is on mute, etc)21:10
Unit193Normally I link to https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio and21:10
Unit193!sound21:10
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.21:10
PhantorGorthI have just install 11.10 then imediately upgraded to 12.04.21:11
SkippersBossPhantorGorth, Pulse raises a lot of hairs/problems/stress levels21:11
PhantorGorthI just tried removing pulseaudio. no joy21:11
SkippersBossFirst check Alsamixer see if anything is muted down there21:11
PhantorGorthSkippersBoss: done that one :-)21:11
SkippersBossso with alsa gone sound still not working21:12
SkippersBosssorry21:12
UnknownForkWhat should I open xfconf with?21:12
SkippersBosswith PULSE gone sound still not working21:12
PhantorGorthyes I removed Pulse and got nothing21:13
PhantorGorthI have used three players, vlc, aplay and play21:13
PhantorGorthjust in case it was the player21:14
SkippersBossare your system sounds working ??21:14
PhantorGorthhaven't actually checked that21:14
PhantorGorthI am not a XFCE expert. I am stuggling to find the system sound settings21:16
SkippersBossLets be up front here21:16
SkippersBossI am not either21:16
pleia2I've had some mute weirdness, usually just killing the pulseaudio process and starting it again got me sorted21:17
SkippersBossjust trying to point you to a certain point of thinking21:17
GridCube!enter21:17
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!21:17
SkippersBossPleia is however :-)21:17
Unit193pulseaudio -k && pulseaudio --start21:17
PhantorGorthI agree I can not rule out that is not all types of sound21:18
SkippersBossUnit193,  he has removed pulse and still no sound21:18
GridCubePhantorGorth, on a terminal run: lspci | grep "Audio"21:18
PhantorGorthyes but I put it back after testing21:18
Unit193Well, with the idea of restarting audio, that was the idea.21:19
PhantorGorthGridCube: returned nothing21:19
GridCubeD:21:19
GridCubewait, did you put "Audio" with the proper A21:19
Unit193Could have him pastebin.com lspci output.21:20
GridCubetrue21:20
PhantorGorthlspci | grep -i "Audio" returns: Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)21:20
GridCube:D thats it21:20
GridCubethe -i makes the upper case irrelevant tho21:21
PhantorGorthyes which is what I did after looking at the raw lspci output21:21
PhantorGorthI am wondering as I alway keep my /home partition when changing OS I am wondering if there could be some rogue config left over from my previous OS (LMDE) causing trouble21:23
GridCubehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=130245721:23
GridCubePhantorGorth, probably21:24
GridCubedon't really know tho21:24
PhantorGorthI removed the .asoundrc file as alsa docs say that normally you don't need one21:25
SkippersBosshttp://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-emu10k1#The_.asoundrc_file21:28
PhantorGorthSkippersBoss: just added that .asoundrc. I am not getting sound but I am now hearing it "click" when I a toggle the "Digital/Analog" switch21:32
PhantorGorthIt's like it's muted but all volume controls > 0%21:33
SkippersBossLike i said I am by no means an xpert and I have learned that in linux it either works or you are spending a lot of blood sweat and tears to get it to work21:33
PhantorGorthI would prefer it if they would actually write a tool that tells you if alsa/pulse are receiving data21:34
SkippersBoss:-)21:34
PhantorGorthso I can at least trace where the problem is21:34
SkippersBossAs pulse runs on top of ALSA i would advise to remove pulse whilst you are sorting out your alsa issue.21:35
PhantorGorthSkippersBoss: blood and tears like me when I was trying to get flash to work yesterday21:36
PhantorGorthgot that one sorted. I had to revert to an earlier driver and move it in manually21:37
SkippersBossI have a repeating issue with pulse and skype21:37
PhantorGorthI used to on Kubuntu before I went to LMDE and I made the mistake of switching to OSS421:38
SkippersBoss:-)21:39
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PhantorGorthWell I am now getting white noise when I play a track21:44
PhantorGorthI am now getting sound21:45
PhantorGorth:-)21:45
SkippersBoss:-)21:46
David-APhantorGorth: and now you don't want it :)21:46
PhantorGorthI removed Pulse and restarted alsa21:46
SkippersBosshave fun21:46
PhantorGorththink the force-reload was missing before when I removed alsa21:46
PhantorGorthsorry pusle21:46
PhantorGorth*pulse :-)21:47
PhantorGorththanks everyone who helped21:47
PhantorGorthnow to try it with flash21:48
PhantorGorththat's working too :-)21:50
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SkippersBossok can any one point me please to the right setting for preventing focus window under mouse pointer. ?? this behaviour just got me into serious trouble and is annoying23:43
knomeSkippersBoss, apps > settings > settings manager > window manager > tab "focus" > set "focus model" to "click to focus", not "focus follows mouse"23:45
SkippersBossthx23:46
SkippersBossyou are a live saver23:46
knomeof course! i save your life from.. myself!23:46
knome:)=23:46
SkippersBossi bow to your wisdom23:47

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