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silverarrowzumodoki, small?00:04
silverarrowsimple you mean00:04
silverarrowyes it is00:04
silverarrowcompared to mountain lion with all kinds of flash00:05
silverarrowor windows 7 even00:05
silverarrownot really00:05
silverarrowzumodoki, lubuntu is kept simple with out the flashy stuff deliberately00:05
kanliothe was talking about wiki00:06
silverarrowoh I see00:06
silverarrowlol00:06
silverarrowhave a good night00:06
silverarrowI need to be off00:06
kanliotc u00:06
silverarrowi shall have to look further into burner alternative tomorrow00:07
silverarrow:-)00:07
zumodokiAnyone have peppermint a try?01:00
holsteinpeppermintOS? i have used it often01:00
zumodokiHow do you find it over lubuntu?01:02
holsteinsimilar.. peppermint has a few custom tools that are nice01:03
holsteinboth have live CD's.. try them both for yourself01:03
zumodokiI like that lubuntu is lite, But if I stick it infront of say my mum, I feels shell sturrgle to use it01:04
zumodokiI need something lite and is still nice on the eyes.01:04
zumodokiPeppermintOS seems to fit that, However in peppermint 3 the screenshots suggest its another desktop enviroment now01:05
holsteinyour mum needs what she is comfortable with.. mum will have to learn some OS01:05
holsteinzumodoki: they are both LXDE.. i would expect mum to have a similar experience on both01:06
zumodokiPeppermint 301:06
zumodokijavascript:;01:06
zumodokihttp://peppermintos.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/3screen_two.png01:07
zumodokiIsnt that the same enviroment mint is using?01:07
holsteinzumodoki: peppermint and lubuntu both use LXDE01:07
zumodokiI know that, But the menu in the screenshot is what im used to seing on mint, Which isnt LXDE based.01:08
holsteinzumodoki: they customize01:08
holsteinzumodoki: you can add a menu like that to anything... you can try them all live01:09
zumodokiIts the visual eye candy I think will make the machine perfect.01:09
holsteinzumodoki: sure, but there really i no eye candy, its just a different implementation of LXDE01:10
zumodokiIt looks visually nicer than lubuntu by default. It may be the selling point I need.01:10
holsteinzumodoki: i think both are a nice balance of performance and functionality...01:10
zumodokiUnless you have suggestions on installing that.,01:10
holsteinzumodoki: "visually nicer" is a matter of opinion, and you can try both from a live CD and see exactly what is going on01:11
holsteinzumodoki: my suggestion is that.. try them both live01:11
zumodokiI need performance, but it if looks "ugly" I can't convince someone to use it.01:11
zumodokilubuntu I have installed. peppermint seems to come witha  bunch of stuff id never use.01:11
holsteinzumodoki: sure, but i dont think lubuntu looks ugly.. some prefer the clean UI01:11
zumodokiWhatever peppermintos has going on, I think is a nice clean simple UI01:12
holsteinsure, and thats the goal, and i think they delivered quite well01:12
zumodokilubuntu by default I feel it looks to small01:12
holsteinlooks to small?01:12
holsteinyou mean, the text is too small?01:13
zumodokiI suppose01:14
zumodokiHard to explain01:15
holsteinzumodoki: you suppose the text is too small?01:15
holsteinzumodoki: you can find the text too small... its not a problem.. its also not a problem to increase the text size01:15
holsteinnor, is it a problem to prefer the default installation of peppermint01:15
zumodokiWould it be possible to stip out the stuff from peppermint I dont want before install? I.E so if I run the disk its missing the stuff like amsn01:17
holsteinzumodoki: all of this software is open, so anything is possible... cant imagine it would matter that much though01:18
holsteinboth iso's sizes are pretty lean by today's standards01:19
zumodokiIf im installing it on a few machine, I dont want to have to go and remove the same programs on 5 installs.01:19
holsteinzumodoki: you can make your own OS, your own live CD.. you can do one install, strip it down, and clone that one01:21
holsteinyou can make a script that would remove whatever you like after installing01:21
nessmukI'm trying to find an iso for Lubuntu 10.04....not on their home site or torrent so far. Anyone here can help me?04:05
Unit193Why do you want 10.04?04:06
Unit193nessmuk: ^04:14
bioterroryeah04:22
bioterrorwhy would you want 10.0404:22
bioterrorit's so outdated what comes to LXDE components04:22
nessmukfirst because the instability in the new installer in 10.10 gave me total grief. Second, I'm just playing with small distros on an old Toshiba Satellita laptop. Pre-usb bootable, 192Meg Ram 400mhz chip. I wanted to see if Lubuntu is that much faster than Xubuntu. Trying guadelinux-mini next04:25
Unit19310.10 is in end of life, so 12.04 would be the one to try, and is AntiX as well as SliTaz on that list? :D04:27
bioterrorthose distros are huge04:28
bioterrorI demand Tiny Core on that list too04:28
bioterroras it's the smallest04:28
nessmukend of life is no concern....I'm just PO'd that the links on lubuntu's site for 10,04 don't GO to that iso...it goes to 10.1004:36
nessmukif I just wanted tiny, I'd use damnsmalllinux....which I've used a lot. Just want to see how 10.04 runs on this old laptop04:37
Unit193https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/PreviousReleases#A10.0404:38
nessmukmy bad! missed that one. As they say in Jazz....Sanctuary Macho!04:40
rbaskershi06:46
rbaskerscan someone help06:50
bioterrorwe always try to help with what know and can06:51
bioterror+we06:51
rbaskersi am not very experienced with linux06:51
rbaskersso its an easy question06:51
rbaskersi downloaded playonlinux, i have extracted it to my desktop, now what?06:52
rbaskersi presume i open lxterminal06:53
rbaskersnavigate to desktop06:53
bioterrorhttp://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html06:54
bioterrorthere's commands for ubuntu06:54
bioterrordont take the deb06:55
bioterrorjust use the reposotiry06:55
bioterrorrepository06:55
bioterrorthen. http://www.playonlinux.com/en/manual.html06:55
rbaskersi already have installed an older version of playonlinux via software centre06:56
rbaskersbut down the bottom is says a newer version is available06:56
bioterrorand you should use the repository06:56
bioterroras it's easier to maintain06:57
rbaskerssorry what is that ?06:57
bioterror!repository06:57
ubottuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories06:57
rbaskerssry i have used windows my whole life06:57
rbaskersreading now06:57
bioterrorI have too!06:58
jokerdinohey guys. anyone on 12.10?06:58
jokerdinobug fix to bug #1035607 doesn't seem to work fine.06:59
bioterrornope, becouse lack of PAE06:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1035607 in lubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "Unity-greeter doesn't have a badge for Lubuntu session" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103560706:59
bioterrorjokerdino, and your lubuntu-artwork is which version?06:59
jokerdino0.3007:00
bioterrorthere you go07:00
jokerdinooops07:00
bioterror!patience07:00
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/07:00
bioterror;)07:00
jokerdino:D07:00
bioterrortakes a while to move to repos ;)07:01
jokerdinoi'll check back in a while. thanks much.07:01
bioterrorhave you updated your system already?07:01
jokerdinoyeah. i have to dist-upgrade now07:01
jokerdinoone sec.07:01
jokerdinook 0.31 fixes the bug :-)07:02
Timo_Hi, for some reason I always need approval on the Lubuntu-mailing, while I am registered to the mailing list :(10:42
kanliottimo_ ask on the mailing list11:13
Timo_alright11:13
kanliotalso , be sure and introduce yourself11:14
kanliothow long you've used lubuntu11:14
kanliotand what your role on the team is11:14
bioterrorquite long11:14
bioterrorold face11:14
kanliotoh11:14
kanliotdidn't know :)11:15
Timo_:D11:15
Timo_I did use the list for some time, but now I started using daily digest, because it was spamming me a bit :P11:15
bioterrorI stopped reading mailing lists when they changed lubuntu-desktop to something else11:15
bioterrorand it was full of emotional mails11:16
Timo_That's the negative side of active mailing lists :p11:16
bioterrorI rather spend my time and mobiles bandwith for something else than all that emo stuff11:16
Timo_hahaha :d11:16
Timo_I just read the subjects, and if it sounds interesting, I read it :p11:17
kanlioti might be the worst person on the mailing list, IMHO11:17
bioterrorquite many times I was "ooohhh new email!" and when I checked it, it was mostly "you dont like me and my adhd acting at all! why you're all like that?"11:17
Timo_lol :D11:17
kanliotreally i don't see how people put up with me11:20
Timo_mm I just bought the Humble Bundle, it always contains some nice games :D11:21
kanlioti'm as annoying as lxpanel11:21
Timo_oh, it's been some time ago I abandoned LXpanel11:21
Timo_AWN here :P11:21
kanliotlol11:21
Timo_AWN+DockbarX :D11:21
kanliotdon't know anything about either one11:23
kanliotqwertyuiop11:23
kanliot321`qWADSEFRGTH11:23
kanliotsorry11:23
kanliotneeded to clean my keyboard11:23
kanliotseriously11:24
Timo_np11:27
Timo_so, kanliot, where are you from?11:27
kanliotusa: ohio and tennessee11:28
kanliotu?11:28
kanliotsome people say that instead of tennehio person i loook more pennslytucky11:29
kanliotbad joke for aussies11:29
kanlioti need something at the store, brb11:32
silverarrowhi12:45
Timo_hi12:46
silverarrowdo you know how to report on testing packages?12:46
silverarrowI am still in 12.04 but have built the 1.0.6 (testing) packages locally12:46
smartboyhwUse packages.qa.ubuntu.com12:48
silverarrowPhiscribe,13:45
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silverarrowhi15:47
silverarrowany good burner for powerpc?15:48
holsteinsilverarrow: you mean, cd type media burner?15:48
holsteini would think most packages would be in the repos for that15:48
silverarrowcd, and iso at least, data15:49
holsteinsilverarrow: i heard about something on a podcast that made me think of you.. https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1303/15:49
silverarrowxfburn could potentially be good15:49
silverarrowor rather become15:49
silverarrowcool15:49
holsteinsilverarrow: i was wondering if it could just strip the audio out when it converts mp4 to mp3 or whatever audio15:49
silverarrowtanks15:49
holsteinsilverarrow: though i havent used PPC in a while, i would expect xfburn and brasero and whatever else to just be in the repos15:50
silverarrowoh, yes I am still on that one15:50
silverarrowxfburn is default but crashes15:51
holsteini would start it from the terminal and see if there is any helpful output15:51
silverarrowit crashes as soon as I add a track to the adio project15:51
silverarrowpaste.ubuntu.com/115924215:54
holsteinmaybe you dont have the proper codecs installed...15:55
silverarrowpaste.ubuntu.com/11524415:56
silverarrowhow am I suppose to know what they  are?15:56
silverarrowweird, because I have installed just about every plugin and lib there is15:57
holsteinsilverarrow: i usuallu just search.. its just an idea anyways... you can try another burner, and try another type of audio file15:57
silverarrowI could15:58
silverarrowbrasero is an option15:58
silverarrowit has been good in the past15:58
holsteinsilverarrow: should take a few seconds to install and test.. then you'll know if its xfburn or codecs15:59
silverarrowbrassero seems to work16:15
silverarrowattempting burn now16:15
silverarrownormalizing tracks...16:15
silverarrowholstein, and it plays in cd player16:20
silverarrow!!16:20
silverarrowI need a better stereo16:20
holsteinsilverarrow: could be something to do with the PPC build of xfburn... could be a very small group supporting those packages17:06
holsteini think most PPC users are doing the server thing with them...17:06
silverarrowtrue17:08
holsteinsilverarrow: not that that is a valid excuse for a bug... just a resonable explanation17:09
silverarrowthere are a few who keeps up their G4 laptops though17:09
holsteinfrom what i read, sometime after 10.04 PPC went "unofficial".. whatever that means17:09
silverarrowand some hold on the top model 64bit G5s, those where very expensive at a time17:09
silverarrowsome of the G5s are upgradable17:10
silverarrowthere are loads of powerpc still in use17:11
silverarrowhowever, they are not that good anymore with some stuff17:11
silverarrowlinux could improve those areas easily17:11
holsteinwell, loads of any linux user is a minority.. and the #'s dont matter.. if its unofficial, its unsupported, officially17:12
silverarrowbut with debian bugs seeping in to every related distro linux get a bad reputation for the G3, 4 and 517:12
holsteinyeah, in the end it likely is better to just go and help and support upstream17:13
silverarrowppc is actually suported, just not assigned that much attention17:13
holsteinsilverarrow: i read it was community supported17:14
silverarrowdebian still support ppc fully and officially17:14
holsteinPowerPC was an officially supported architecture for Ubuntu between versions 4.10 and 6.10. From 7.04 onwards it is a community supported port17:14
holsteinthats via https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPC17:14
holsteini thought the 9.10 i had tried was official though17:15
silverarrowthough what happens in practicality is another story, I think it has to do with feedback info17:15
silverarrowI filed a separate bug for the 1.0.6 packages, and it was deleted from launchpad17:15
holsteinsilverarrow: that statement and stance on the wiki means bascially it may be buggy, and theres not much officially done about it17:15
silverarrowI already had filed a bug on the 1.05 package, which I spent 14 days on getting to work lol17:16
holsteinsilverarrow: thats the kind of community support that really helps though17:16
silverarrowyeah, unfortunately really17:16
silverarrowand I spent two nights in a row with 1.0.6 packages17:17
holsteineh... you cant expect the higer-ups to support legacy hardware forever.. i think it was a necessary call, and it makes me a little sad17:17
silverarrowthey should, lol17:17
bioterrorwhy they should?17:18
bioterrordo you pay them for supporting your obsolete hardware?17:18
silverarrowthe bugs are not that hard to fix if the right person get to work on it17:18
holsteinwell, to be clear, you can.. you can always build a version that supports whatever you like17:18
holsteinbut, the focus of ubuntu is not to support legacy hardware17:18
silverarrowwho pays them to support newer hardware then?17:18
silverarrowI suppose debian is the source anyhow17:19
holsteinsilverarrow: i think the idea is, someone might.. and the "mainstream" idea of ubuntu is to be for newer hardware17:19
silverarrowyes, it has to be for the newer hardwre17:19
silverarrowI still like the old ibook though17:19
holsteinagain, doesnt have to be a deal breaker.. you might find a friendlier out of the box solution for legacy hardware though17:19
holsteinand you can always customize to your liking17:20
bioterrorsilverarrow, people buys newer hardware to play with17:20
bioterrorthat's normal cycle17:20
bioterrorand some people might get newer hardware as they are ment to make drivers and software for it17:21
bioterrorlike Raspberry Pi for example, they have given away prototype to get it running and working17:21
silverarrowppc is just a bit out of luck17:21
bioterrorPPC is dead17:21
silverarrowany old intel hardware is supported17:21
holsteinwell, PPC is not being made anymore17:22
silverarrowexcept the IBM stuff17:22
bioterrorPPC was doomed when Apple said during 2005 "we are now going to make x86 computers"17:22
bioterrorsilverarrow, IBM stuff is Power17:22
holsteinintel is easier to support in a legacy fashion as well likely due to the way they are open about hardware specs17:22
silverarrowpowerpc is pretty well supported still, just a few issues that need attention17:25
silverarrowI hope there is a dev who has an old g4 or 5 they like17:26
holsteini find its much like bioterror states.. PPC is dead17:26
holsteini find a few places that support all kinds of legacy hardware quite well.. ubuntu is not necessarily one of those places17:27
bioterrorit really requires to have some sort of asperger to use G4 PPC's in a year 2012 when C2D computers are already given away for free17:27
bioterrorjust like some people likes to use CDE ;-)17:28
holsteinwell, im an advocate of using hardware when its around and appropriate, but usually the TCO is lower just getting newer hardware thats better on power usage17:29
silverarrowyeah, maybe I should stick to installing ubuntu on my new samung in stead17:37
silverarrowor debian17:38
silverarrowthe ones with the oldest hardware is often studens18:07
silverarrowthey start off with hand me down computers18:07
silverarrowand improve standard as soon as they can18:08
silverarrowwhich often means a couple of years18:08
Unit193Did you need something?  This is a support channel after all.18:08
silverarrowyes I do18:08
silverarrowbut not ppc this time18:08
silverarrowextracting audio file from mp418:11
Unit193What about it?  You should be able to use Audacity for example to do that.18:13
silverarrowapparently vlc is better at it18:17
Unit193"Better at it"18:19
psichashello lubuntu users :))18:19
pH5when using XVidcap the sound isn't recoding... why???18:31
silverarrowbecause it is lubuntu18:31
silverarrowa bit crappy some times18:32
pH5so what do you use to record screen actitvies?18:33
holsteinlubuntu is a bit crappy sometimes?.. maybe its soemthing to do with that particular package18:33
silverarrowscreen shots or video capture?18:33
pH5video18:33
silverarrowholstein, yeah18:34
holsteinlast one i used was gtk-recordmydesktop18:34
silverarrowI thought gnome mplayer could do video capture?18:35
silverarrowvlc can18:35
pH5i had gtk-recordmydesktop but when to play back the video look crappy in the sence i cant see it properly18:37
pH5what's vlc18:37
pH5?18:37
holstein!vlc18:37
ubottuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs18:37
silverarrowvlc works18:37
silverarrowmust be the only thing on ppc that just works18:38
silverarrowI just testet18:38
silverarrowph5, do you have vlc?18:38
silverarrowoh, sorry, a video player18:38
silverarrowmedia player18:39
pH5so vlc can record desktop activities and no18:39
silverarrowhmm, well, no not like that18:39
silverarrowonly what you can stream in vlc18:39
pH5oh i need something that record desktop videos and sounds18:40
silverarrowhmm, you mean download or transfer from other media?18:41
holsteinsilverarrow: like, a screencapture18:41
pH5yeah like XVidcap but i get no sound recording18:42
silverarrownew to me, never used it18:43
pH5its good but i get no sound.... by the way where do you find the microphone settings on Lubuntu?18:44
holsteinpH5: you can look in the terminal in alsamixer18:45
silverarrowoh, VLC has desktop option too¨18:45
silverarrowbut haven`t tried18:45
silverarrownot sure about recording though18:46
silverarrow...seem like there it that too18:46
pH5oh hard to find a good one18:47
holsteinwonder is the linux version of teamviewer works for recording18:47
jonaseni have downloaded minitube to /home/minitube . what should i write in the CLI to get it installed?18:55
pH5jonasem: if it work you let me know... doesn't seem to work for me?18:57
pH5...18:57
holsteinjonasen: i would do http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-minitube-1-7-in-ubuntu-using-ppa.html18:57
j0bican someone help me make wifi usb adapter TL-WN723N work18:58
holsteinhttp://www.noobslab.com/2012/01/install-minitube-youtube-client-in.html suggests sudo apt-get purge phonon-backend-xine if you have any problems18:58
holsteinj0bi: i would run lsusb and see if it shows up18:59
j0biit shows18:59
holsteinj0bi: then i would share the line about the hardware here, and i'll help you search18:59
j0bibut it doesnt been shown in the network manager18:59
j0biok just a sec please18:59
j0biID 0bda:8176 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.19:00
j0biholstein:19:01
jonasenthanks for the link, but i have downloaded version 1-8 via http://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/minitube/19:01
pH5hey the trash bin disappear, how do i get it back?19:01
jonasenso i need the commands to write in the cli, the links you sent me was only for version 1.719:02
holsteini would either follow something like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1658112 or try the windows driver in ndisgtk j0bi19:02
holsteinjonasen: i would look and see what version is currently in that PPA... otherwise, there should be a readme in the pacakge you downloaded with support19:03
holsteinjonasen: consider using checkinstall19:03
holstein!checkinstall19:03
ubottucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!19:03
j0bilet me read and try something and if i have prob i will ask for help19:03
j0bithanks19:03
holsteinj0bi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1030858 seems relevant?19:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1030858 in linux (Ubuntu) "0bda:8176 RTL8188CUS does not connect to wireless networks" [High,Triaged]19:06
j0bihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1030858     i will check19:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1030858 in linux (Ubuntu) "0bda:8176 RTL8188CUS does not connect to wireless networks" [High,Triaged]19:07
JotekHello everybody! Can someone help me with running native applications on Lubuntu?19:07
holsteinJotek: sure.. anything "native" should just install and run easily19:08
holsteinJotek: i would just use whatever package manager you are comfortable with to search and install them.. synaptic is a nice tool... full featured and easy to use19:09
Jotekholstein: it does not! When I'm trying to run it I get an window, where I have to choose the best app to work with, when I try to run it with terminal I get a "permision denied" error.19:09
holsteinJotek: it? synaptic?19:09
Jotekhostein: nope, this application19:10
holsteinJotek: cool... what application are you tying to run?19:10
Jotekholstein: (the one I'm trying to run)19:10
Jotekholstein: Tibia Client for linux (rpg game)19:10
j0biholstein: the wget at the bug report and solution asks for user and pass19:11
j0bi:(19:11
holsteinj0bi: link what you got in pastebin.. wget should download into your home folder anywhere with no issues19:11
j0bii dont understand what to link?19:12
j0bithe ftp asks for pass19:12
holsteinj0bi: whatever error messages you are seeing and having an issue with19:13
holsteinj0bi: ok. then i would search for the package from another source, or ask the maintainer for the pass, or try the windows driver in ndiswrapper with ndisgkt19:13
holsteinndisgtk**19:13
j0biok19:13
holstein!ndisgtk19:14
j0bihow to see what driver the wifi uses19:14
holsteinj0bi: i would go to the manufacturer and ask... i would grab the windows one and try it19:15
holsteinndisgtk: graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers)19:15
Jotekholstein: StartTibia.sh: 11: StartTibia.sh: ./libc6/ld-linux.so.2: Permission denied <- this is an error I have19:16
holsteinJotek: i would be cautious of running that as root.. maybe to the point of running a live CD to test it19:17
Jotekholstein: jotekk@jotekk-HP-d530-SFF-DC578AV:~/Tibia$ sudo sh StartTibia.sh StartTibia.sh: 11: StartTibia.sh: ./libc6/ld-linux.so.2: Permission denied <- as you can see - same thing19:17
holsteinJotek: where did you get what you have downloaded?.. i cant see a download option without making an account19:17
Jotekuhm19:17
Jotekhttp://static.tibia.com/download/tibia961.tgz19:18
holsteinJotek: i dont see a readme, and all i get is errors19:21
holsteini would ask the maintainers what you are supposed to do, and maybe consider wine, or looking in a PPA19:22
j0biholstein:  can i ask you. i download the driver from the manufacture that is for windows?19:22
Jotekholstein: damn19:22
holsteinj0bi: if you see a linux one, try it. you can also try with ndisgtk the windows driver19:23
holsteinhttp://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2011/08/download-ubuntu-gamepack-1104.html has it for example Jotek19:24
Jotekthanks :)19:24
holsteini would look into where it got it from and how19:24
j0biholstein:  i just installed ndisgtk i open the prog and it i click install new driver19:25
j0biand i asks me for the inf file19:25
holsteinj0bi: correct.. the windows driver from the manufacturer19:25
Jotekhostein: 4.3gb, argh!19:25
j0biso i must download it from internet19:25
holsteinJotek: im not suggesting you download or use it.. im just saying it was included there.. in ubuntu19:25
Jotekyeah, it works on ubuntu19:26
holsteinJotek: lubuntu *is* ubuntu19:26
Jotekholstein: as we can see - not totally19:26
holsteinJotek: you dont have to say "we", becuase they are the same repos.. with access to the same programs..19:27
holsteini would think it more likely a software version issue.. like, you are using a verion of ubuntu that support that software, and the lubuntu version doesnt19:27
j0biholstein:  i have the cd19:27
j0bican i use that???19:28
holsteinj0bi: what cd?19:28
j0biwith the drivers of the wifi adapter19:28
holsteinj0bi: sure...19:28
j0bithat came with the usb19:28
holsteinthat is a plausible method to obtain windows drivers supplied by the manufacturer19:29
holsteinand, you'll know they should work :)19:29
j0biholstein: wich one to use19:29
j0biit has for win xp vista and 719:29
holsteini always try XP... you can try one, and see, and try another...19:30
j0biok19:30
jonasenholstein-> i have installed checkinstall, but it the command "sudo checkinstall minitube" doesnt work19:31
holsteinjonasen: i would install from PPA...19:32
jonasenPPA? sorry im new19:32
holsteinif you want to troubleshoot the current issue, you'll need to pastebin errors19:32
holsteinjonasen: the link i linked earlier19:32
j0biit says hardware not present but i d19:33
j0bisee it blinking19:33
j0biand in lsusb19:33
j0bishould i do a restart holstein19:33
holsteinj0bi: shouldnt have to, but you can try19:33
holsteinjonasen: the link where you said the version was too old.. but when i look at the PPA, it contains version 1.8 https://launchpad.net/~ferramroberto/+archive/minitube19:34
holsteinjonasen: you get version 1.8 from ppa by following http://www.noobslab.com/2012/01/install-minitube-youtube-client-in.html19:35
jonasenhttp://pastebin.com/tRNFtDdd19:35
holsteinjonasen: the PPA wont work for you?19:36
jonasenok, now i understand. i havent tried it. I would like to be able to install the file i downloaded earlier from minitubes homepage. i coult use that info when installing other apps19:37
j0biholstein:  the restart did the trick19:37
j0biit started working it asked me for wifi pass and now choose password fro new keyring19:38
j0biwhat is this???19:38
holsteinj0bi: should be the user pass..19:38
holsteinj0bi: get on the network, and then sort out those little issues19:39
j0bii cant because its asking me this19:39
holsteinjonasen: and you can, but there should be a readme there.. otherwise, the maintainer of that PPA has already done that for you, if you'd like to use his package19:39
j0bian application want to create a new keyring called default19:39
holsteinj0bi: should be the user password19:39
j0biok i put the same i use to log in the system19:40
j0biGIOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ITS WORKING19:42
j0biyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeea19:42
j0bithanks a lot holstein19:42
j0bito tell you the truth i knew about the ndisgtk but afraid to use cause of the threads i was reading and its problems19:43
j0bi:)19:43
j0bibut thanks encouraging me19:43
holsteinits an option to explore... an easy one in some cases19:43
j0bino this old laptop will go to a poor family19:43
j0bifor hobby i find old computers tha others want to throw i remove them the windows install a lightweight distro and give them to poor familys19:44
j0bithanks i will tell them about you19:45
j0biholstein:19:45
j0bi:)19:45
jonasenholstein: i tried the PPA you sent me, it worked. thanks! I will read more about PPA:s i would like to be able to make my own19:46
holsteinjonasen: enjoy!.. again, just an option, and an easy one to explore.. and also, it makes it easy to uninstall the package, and it will be maintained as long as the PPA is maintained19:48
silverarrowis firefox 5 still available?20:14
silverarrowor 4 even20:14
holsteini would expect to find the source for all of them somewhere20:14
silverarrowI was thinknig of having both 14.01 and 520:38
silverarrowand I think I will install Debian Weeezy when it launches20:39
silverarrowI lost connectoin20:43

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