[00:30] jasoncwarner_: and? am I fired? or did I say nothing dangerous? [03:17] am i better off installing the last alpha or a nightly? [03:19] * desrt goes for the nightly [03:20] Nightly. [03:20] Always the nigthly. [03:20] for you that's a daily, right? [03:24] :P [03:43] RAOF: so nightly isn't going so well [03:43] know anything about why X would give me a completely black screen without even a cursor? [03:44] terminal is totally cool. X is running and ubiquity is apparently running inside of it... [03:44] dbus and a11y are up. for some reason dconf is started. [03:46] desrt: Sounds fun. [03:46] desrt: As always, Xorg.0.log and dmesg is the price of admission to the debug train. [03:47] RAOF: well, that's the odd thing [03:47] i have an Xorg.1.log for some reason [03:47] with a 'no screens found' at the bottom [03:47] I've got the nautilus update [03:48] huh. no more pastebin tool in quantal? [03:48] ah. cd only has main [03:49] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1158318/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/1158319/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/1158320/ [03:50] RAOF: ^ dmesg, Xorg.0.log, Xorg.1.log [03:51] desrt: I blame dconf [03:51] desrt: Ok, that's confusing. [03:51] * thumper ducks and runs [03:51] thumper: i blame people who use dconf :) [03:51] You might want to try VT8 or 9 or somesuch; there does appear to be an X server running correctly, although something has decided to spawn a second one for some reason. [03:51] RAOF: vt7 has the X server that's running 'correctly' [03:52] that's the all-black one [03:52] root 2966 0.6 0.1 85948 8920 tty7 Ss+ 03:39 0:05 X -br -ac -noreset -nolisten tcp -background none vt7 :0 [03:52] * desrt kicks it oldschool with gpm [03:53] [ 264.236] removing GPU device /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0 -458544560 [03:53] [ 264.236] xf86: remove device 0 /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.0/drm/card0 [03:53] * desrt is sort of enjoying this vt business -- maybe X is overrated after all [03:53] [ 264.236] (II) config/udev: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0) [03:53] That's the only vaguely suspicion bit. [03:53] RAOF: that might have been when i docked my machine to try to get network [03:53] guessing based on the timestamps... [03:54] the problem existed before then... [03:55] RAOF: so two X servers starting... [03:56] could that be robert_ancell or mterry's bug? [03:56] * desrt would be happy to just download the alpha for a working installer, but there's clearly a bug here... [03:57] desrt: Probably robert_ancell's bug. [03:57] lightdm doesn't appear to be running :/ [03:57] * desrt blames ubiquity [04:00] killing X and restarting /etc/init.d/ubiquity gets me a non-black screen (with just the background showing, still no mouse cursor) [04:01] pretty sure this isn't your problem [04:01] Yeah, all *my* stuff seems to be firing on all cylinders. [04:01] asking in #ubuntu-installer [04:08] desrt: You say a11y was up... What do you mean by this exactly? [04:08] desrt: If you mean during the installer, thats code that needs removing now that we use GTK3. [04:15] TheMuso: i mean that atspi was running [04:16] complete with its own private dbus and the registryd [04:36] new kernel seems snappier for some reason [04:37] jbicha: so i install gnome-shell and try to get into the gnome-shell session but i get a black screen (this time with a cursor) [04:38] hm. i bet it has something to do with some config i have in my ~ [04:45] I don't know, do you use any GS extensions? [04:51] ya [04:51] could well have been the issue [04:51] i'm taking this as a chance to clean up my old config stuff [04:51] robert_ancell: do you know if lightdm is involved at all in starting ubiquity? [04:51] desrt, I don't know what they do there, maybe? [04:52] it is run from a session I think? [04:52] okay. definitely not your bug then [04:52] the daily installer is not working [04:56] huh. alt+drag is gone [04:56] win+drag is the new awesome, apparently [04:56] should make gimp users happy... [04:58] jbicha: new shell is looking pretty good [04:58] 'cept the fact that the lock screen is not functioning :) [04:59] fortunately it still works if you suspend... [04:59] * desrt goes to bed [04:59] desrt: Ubiquity is started with an upstart job. [04:59] TheMuso, what starts X? [05:05] desrt: too bad we're stuck for now with an old gnome shell version [05:05] jbicha: Why is that? [05:06] TheMuso: it requires GDM 3.5 :( [05:06] Ah. [05:07] desrt: alt+drag works fine here [05:24] hmm [05:25] is there a way to say in GObject "this properly can only be set upon construction, but it might not be set" ? [05:34] Bonjour mes amis [05:35] bonsoir! [05:35] * Sweetshark still around from a pre-ff allnighter. [05:35] Sweetshark: oh, where are you? US? [05:35] urgh [06:16] <- off to bed [07:49] hey desktopers [07:53] bonjour seb128 [07:53] pitti, hey, wie gehts? [07:54] seb128: ça va bien, et toi? [07:55] pitti, mir geht es gut, danke! [07:56] Laney, pitti: did any of you start looking at the glib,gtk updates? [07:56] I fought with glib's tests today and finally got it building [07:56] but I didn't look at the new version [07:57] I'm still fighting with the post-holiday mail/bug backlog and had to do a pygobject day as well [07:58] ok [07:58] just checking before starting on those, I need the new gtk to unblock #dx work that needs to land for ff [08:00] hm, according to my pygobject build failures on arm*, it seems gtk was updated (uninstallable build deps) [08:00] hm, no [08:00] * pitti sighs at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/quantal_probs.html [08:02] wth? [08:02] pitti, oh, it's gdk-pixbuf [08:03] going to be solved on the next published run [08:03] need to teach robert_ancell about using quantal-proposed :p [08:04] yeah, it's really better for libs like gtk/glib/pixbuf [08:04] "starts in 10 hours" -- /me bumps build score [08:05] pitti, which one? [08:05] gdk-pixbuf armel and powerpc builds [08:05] ah [08:05] pitti, danke [08:14] good morning everyone [08:16] chrisccoulson, hey, how are you? [08:16] seb128, yeah, not too bad thanks. how are you? [08:16] I'm good thanks [08:18] i'm nearly out of coffee :( [08:18] chrisccoulson, are you ready for the feature freeze? still planning to land things? ;-) or did you get pull off in bug fixing and fire fighting all along? [08:19] seb128, yeah, i'm not likely to be landing much this week. i've got other stuff to do ;) [08:33] seb128: Probably best not to wait on me for gtk, got some packing to do today ;-) (moving thursday) [08:34] Laney, ok, good luck with the packing and moving ;-) [08:34] first job is to find a shop who will give me empty boxes === sil2100_ is now known as sil2100 [08:40] doing gtksourceview3 update [08:41] hey Laney [08:41] Laney: did you notice that with the l-s update you now get warnings at the start of every GTK program? [08:41] pitti: are you talking about the fontconfig ones? [08:41] yes [08:41] yeah, those started when we got the new fontconfig [08:42] pitti, the ones in http://paste.ubuntu.com/1146801/ ? [08:42] you get a ton of them if you happen to have the wrong packages installed [08:42] but some of the wrong ones happen to be in 69-ls-ja-jp [08:42] those are the ones I'm thinking of [08:42] right, those [08:43] if nobody gets to it before me then I'll be fixing that when I break the configs out into the font packages [08:44] xnox was asking about it in -release a few days ago, so perhaps he's looking at it? [08:44] it's certainly not urgent, and I guess we had these all the time once you used l-s to install the configs [08:45] the warnings are new, but possibly the configs were always broken [08:45] (they came with the new fontconfig which we got quite recently) [08:45] many other font packages are affected [08:46] pitti, so warnings started with the fontconfig update, they are on my todo but lower than ff topics [08:46] ah, ok; thanks [08:47] pitti, do you know how often http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/quantal_probs.html is updated? [08:48] seb128: after each publisher run [08:48] hum [08:48] "Generated: Tue Aug 21 06:41:53 UTC 2012" [08:48] iz bog? [08:48] pitti, do you know where to look for errors? where is that script running? [08:49] on people.c.c, sudo -u ubuntu-archive -i [08:50] danke [08:50] 2-52/10 * * * *archive-reports [09:18] doing the gcr update [09:21] Sweetshark, hey [09:28] seb128: he worked until 7:30 or so, I guess he's tight asleep [09:43] hello my desktop friends [09:43] can somebody please have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~logan/ubuntu/quantal/notify-osd/debian-merge/+merge/118465? [09:44] it generally looks alright, but I'm not quite sure (as indicated in the merge proposal comments) if some of the Debian decisions shouldn't be backed out again [09:46] ^ Laney maybe? :) [09:51] pitti, hi [09:53] hey seb128 :) [09:53] dholbach, mon ami! [09:54] dholbach: howdy, maybe later this evening; today I am mostly packing [09:54] (also on 3G only) [09:55] seb128, tes coéquipiers sont très paresseux(?) [09:55] ah, ok, Laney a une excuse :) [09:56] dholbach, oui, il faudrait les faire travailler un peu plus [09:56] evidament [09:56] dholbach, I will have a look to that merge request [09:57] * dholbach hugs seb128 [09:57] * seb128 hugs dholbach back [09:58] très impoli! [09:59] pourquoi? j'ai seulement dit que tous les autres sont paresseux - pas toi, Laney :) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:13] pitti, ping [11:45] seb128: pong [11:46] seb128: did you see the libreoffice package for quantal-proposed on chinstrap? [11:46] Sweetshark, I was wondering why you included the orig in your libreoffice upload [11:46] Sweetshark, wasn't that just a new revision of the version already in quantal? [11:48] seb128: oh, true. [11:49] Sweetshark, well anyway, uploaded and soyuz accepted it, so I guess it knows to discard unrequired tarballs [11:49] *mumble* 7am allnighterworkquality *cheapexcuses* [11:49] seb128: good [11:49] Sweetshark, well done on getting that landing on time btw ;-) [11:50] seb128: it includes both the sessioninstaller and the menubar stuff. [11:50] Sweetshark, I saw! time to close some work items? ;-) [11:50] seb128: guess so. [11:50] * Sweetshark takes a look. [11:50] hello tkamppeter [12:17] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/113068990/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-amd64.glib2.0_2.33.10-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [12:17] hum, I hate you too glib! [12:18] "make[1]: Target `check' not remade because of errors." ... thanks, what error? [12:19] seb128: waaah. dont post such horrorstories just before ff. [12:19] not fair! [12:20] I wonder if I will get pitti knocking on my door if I don't make glib fail build on test suit issues :p [12:21] * pitti is in a meeting, bbl [12:21] quantal-proposed! [12:22] pitti, it's in quantal-proposed :p [12:23] ok, quick, pitti is in a meeting, let's drop tests and upload to quantal :p [12:23] which test failed? [12:24] pitti, dunno, it does "Target `check' not remade because of errors." [12:24] search for FAIL$ [12:24] pitti, but no hurry, focus on your meeting, I will try to figure out what's going on [12:24] it's built with -j4, so the error is not at the bottom [12:25] pitti, oh ok, got it [12:25] pitti, danke [12:26] pitti, it's an issue desrt and mclasen mentioned yesterday [12:26] you might need to retry the build as a first attemt [12:26] no, it's an issue with one of the gio launch tests which requires g-t or another command line [12:28] it's coming from http://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?id=f89e9deaec3bf279eac5073a30d6d3d7b2a1568b === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:36] pitti, do you have time today to talk about a printer driver auto download problem? [12:37] tkamppeter: I'm in a meeting, but after that, sure; what's up? [12:39] pitti, I am thinking about cutting down Jockey so that installing drivers from OpenPrinting for a given device ID remains, to use its dual GTK/KDE GUI to show properties and license. The (hopefully small) remaining code piece I would add to the s-c-p package (as part of cupshelpers perhaps). [12:42] pitti, this would save both Ubuntu and Kubuntu from the printer driver auto download regression. [12:47] pitti, I am asking for your help to find the right code pieces. [12:57] re (meeting done) [12:58] seb128: so perhaps we should disable those tests for now; teh current package already disables another one with a race condition [12:58] that's better than disabling the whole thing IMHO [12:58] tkamppeter: the example that I sent that uses PackageKit doesn't work? [12:58] pitti, yeah, I was just going to revert that commit, it's early in the chain of some FF madness stack and I don't have time to investigate details today [12:58] tkamppeter: I think Kubuntu still uses Jockey, but it's gone from Ubuntu/Xubuntu/etc. [12:59] seb128: sounds good [13:01] tkamppeter: which particular code pieces do you need, i. e. which functionality? Installation or detection? [13:01] pitti, the example works perfectly, doing the part of installing the package, but before arriving there one needs the confirmation of the user that he wants the driver. [13:01] tkamppeter: installation should happen via the PK API, that should work in both U and K [13:02] tkamppeter: can't the s-c-p GUI show this? [13:02] should be not much more than a message box? [13:02] tkamppeter: if you want an exising API, you could also use the sessioninstaller API, which has a builtin confirmation dialog [13:03] * pitti check which API he used in that example script, that was before holidays [13:04] pitti, it needs to also be able to show more than one driver and whether the driver is already installed. [13:05] tkamppeter: hang on, I'll get you another example using the sessioninstaller API; that might be more suitable for your purposes [13:05] tkamppeter: do you know the dialog box that totem or firefox show when you need to install a video codec? [13:05] this sounds like a very similar problem [13:06] pitti, tkamppeter: are you looking for this: http://www.packagekit.org/files/session.py ? [13:06] pitti, I had already such a box popping up in the Movie Player but the actual installation did not work. [13:07] Sweetshark: right, that [13:07] tkamppeter: it got fixed today [13:07] pitti, the actual info shown to the user is a data record of the OpenPrinting database, a driver entry. [13:07] Sweetshark: hm, quite; you can't choose between those, right? [13:08] so I think this part needs some custom UI [13:08] and then the sessioninstaller API to confirm the installation [13:12] pitti, the Movie Player still does not work for me. I try to access "rtp://..." streams and after some whirling of a plugin utility I get "Required plugin could not be found, Python (v2.7) requires to install plugins to support the following multimedia feature: RTP protocol source" with only a Close button. What does it mean? RTP support never done for Movie Player? VLC plays these streams without problem. [13:13] VLC doesn't use gstreamer, presumably you are missing a gst plugin [13:13] tkamppeter: but anyway, the gstreamer handling there is a special case, we can't just use it for printer drivers [13:13] so s-c-p needs to show the results by itself [13:13] and then use either the packagekit-glib (as in my example script) or the sessioninstaller API (as in http://www.packagekit.org/files/session.py) to do the actual install [13:22] tkamppeter: as for the presentation thingy, you can certainly grab dialog_manager from gtk/jockey-gtk.ui (and perhaps cut it down in glade), and take some code from gtk/jockey-gtk, update_tree_model() and update_driver_info_ui() [13:22] it's not rocket science, but treeviews take some effort to learn [13:53] hi all, can anyone helpme with an issue I have with unity after a broken dist upgrade to precise? Unity cannot find any apps, that's what happens when I press Super http://ubuntuone.com/6HQTcBJ2zi0ae1pail0izl [13:53] dobey, ^^ any idea? :) [13:58] vds: no idea. you upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 using dist-upgrade? [13:58] dobey, yep [13:58] dobey, and it crashed half way [14:01] good morning! [14:01] seb128: hm, does the archive mounter work for you at the moment? [14:02] seb128: that's the first test case that I'm writing, and promptly it seems it doesn't work for me :( [14:02] pitti, like usb key prompting stuff? [14:02] robru, hey, how are you? [14:02] vds: why didn't you use the GUI upgrader? [14:02] seb128: no, opening a .zip, .iso, or .tar.gz as a gvfs mount [14:02] seb128, doing well. and you? [14:02] seb128: right click -> open with -> archive mounter [14:02] robru, I'm good thanks [14:03] dobey, I did, I used update-manager -d and it crashed after like 4 hours [14:03] ah [14:04] vds: sorry, i usually take dist-upgrade to mean "using apt-get dist-upgrade after tweaking sources.list" [14:04] vds: does "apt-get -f install" help? [14:05] dobey, I was left with a completely broken machine, so after fixing grub with a live and going through apt-get -f install and some other pain now I'm stuck with a desktop that doesn't work :) [14:05] pitti, minute, I've no "archive mounter" listed at all atm, trying to figure that out [14:06] pitti, ah, it works on an iso [14:06] pitti, just mounted the natty iso fine [14:06] cyphermox, hey [14:06] cyphermox, could you have a look to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/1038573? it seems similar to a bug you fixed before precise [14:06] Ubuntu bug 1038573 in evolution "Unreadable messages displayed during Lucid -> Precise upgrade" [High,Triaged] [14:07] pitti, the command to run is "/usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-archive file=...." [14:07] pitti, what does that say for you? [14:08] seb128: sure. that promises to be a fun one to debug [14:08] vds: no idea what is wrong :-/ [14:08] pitti, [14:08] $ /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-archive file=/tmp/nautilus_3.4.2.orig.tar.xz [14:08] ** (process:13026): WARNING **: daemon-main.c: Acquired the name on the session message bus [14:08] pitti, works for me, I get a nautilus_3.4.2.orig.tar.gz mount in my nautilus sidebar [14:09] under "network" though [14:09] dobey, thanks, any idea of some I can bother with that? [14:09] pitti, i have a typelib package that contains a gi override for python2 [14:10] is there a best practice how to support both python2 and python3? [14:12] seb128: ok, so I guess I screwed up something localy; thanks for testing! [14:12] pitti, yw [14:12] vds: not sure; maybe dx team. looks like maybe bamf is broken [14:12] kenvandine: use dh_python2 and dh_python3 to install it for all supported versions, perhaps? [14:13] cyphermox, thanks [14:13] kenvandine: supporting gi for both, or supporting python code for both? [14:13] just packaging... [14:13] i think i figured it out [14:13] thx pitti [14:14] kenvandine: have you seen http://wiki.debian.org/Python/LibraryStyleGuide ? [14:15] kenvandine: i based the python3 packaging stuff for dirspec off that page (so feel free to look at dirspec package for hints as well) [14:15] thx [14:15] though dirspec doesn't have any scripts [14:15] dee does it too [14:16] so not sure exactly how scripts are affected by that yet === popey_ is now known as popey [14:33] woohoo, hello fibre! [14:33] (well, hopefully in a bit) [14:33] am temporarily downgraded to 3g ;) [14:34] chrisccoulson, nice! [14:55] bonne nuit mes amis! [14:55] c'est ça, c'est l'heur pour du glace! [14:55] err, "pour du" is probably wrong [15:01] pitti, "pour de la" works ;-) [15:01] pitti, enjoy! [15:01] nice, 75Mbps downlink! [15:01] and i'm getting 15Mbps uplink too [15:04] chrisccoulson, getting ? like cjwatson "got" his ? [15:05] (not sure if he is already off the 3G after the third week) [15:06] ogra_, yes, i've got it now :) [15:07] ah, cool [15:34] kenvandine, feel like another needs-packaging review for some thin client stuff? [15:34] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1039585 [15:34] Ubuntu bug 1039585 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] libpam-freerdp" [Undecided,New] [15:35] mterry, sure [15:36] kenvandine, wait one second, just found a problem with the packaging [15:36] kenvandine, chrisccoulson, Ursinha, Laney, mlankhorst, cyphermox, mterry, Sweetshark, tkamppeter, robru: it's meeting time if anyone has a topic (none on the wiki so far), also please update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2012-08-21 with things you worked on this week for those who didn't write anything yet [15:36] ok [15:36] kenvandine, chrisccoulson, Ursinha, Laney, mlankhorst, cyphermox, mterry, Sweetshark, tkamppeter, robru: I don't have any topic (out of: get features landing this week) but a note, welcome robru he's new in the team ;-) [15:37] hi seb128! I have a quick topic: just that I have a couple more packages coming in the next hour that need needs-packaging and NEW reviews [15:37] seb128: maybe I got a topic after all [15:37] welcome robru! [15:37] seb128: you mean upstream right? :p [15:37] hey robru, welcome [15:37] hi all [15:37] and heya robru [15:37] Welcome robru! [15:37] thanks! [15:38] topic> for bluetooth; there was a bug open to update obexd to 0.47 to remove it from the NBS list (due to EDS), but it doesn't seem to me as being safe, looks like the packages don't all fit together so well with the updates now, for bluetooth packages (obexd, obex-data-server, bluez) [15:39] so perhaps just a "be careful, things are likely to break if the current pacakges change" [15:39] cyphermox, ok, can you write that in the bug tracking the update? thanks [15:39] yup [15:39] ah, also [15:39] EDS -- there's a lot of stuff in the NBS list [15:39] seb128: I'm not sure if you spent a lot of time on it [15:40] no, I was in .1 and then ff crazyness [15:40] I may need help; some of the changes needed are pretty involved, or there are some packages we might want to drop altogether [15:40] I plan to catch up on +1 work next week [15:40] yeah, I do plan to agressively drop [15:40] like fedora dropped dates and contacts for example [15:40] the changes in EDS 3.5 were pretty painful for ebackend [15:40] ah [15:40] we should rather drop those sort of things [15:41] that simplifies things :) [15:41] yes [15:41] I don't want us to spend too much time on universe stuff that are unmaintained for years [15:41] it's not the best use of our resources not what benefits our users [15:41] I was thinking those might just end up being dropped anyway, so I hadn't touched them [15:41] great [15:41] but yeah, there is still things like evolution-exchange :/ [15:41] I will catch up with that and ping you next week [15:41] it's on my list [15:42] thanks for raising those topics [15:42] works for me, it will give me time to look into whether NM and all are all okay [15:42] mterry, needs-packaging ... you mean you are looking for packagers? [15:42] mterry, I can NEW review for you but I'm too busy to package stuff from scratch [15:43] mterry, do you need somebody else to help on that? maybe robru? [15:43] seb128, no, I got the packaging. I just need another reviewer and a NEW [15:43] mterry: I'll be happy to review [15:43] I'm not especially busy if you want to dump some work on me. I'm just randomly doing packages at the moment [15:43] got to do piloting today [15:43] cyphermox, kenvandine said he also could do a review. So maybe you each take 1 [15:43] or if you are piloting... [15:43] ok [15:43] We'll figure it uout [15:44] I can NEW [15:44] seb128, just a heads up is all, aweomse [15:44] awesome even [15:44] cyphermox, if you are pilot... please do :) [15:44] cyphermox, :) will give you bugs later [15:44] mterry, I don't think you need you need reviews for NEW packages to be honest, just upload [15:44] mterry: great ;) [15:44] seb128, process, process! [15:44] mterry, it's not rocket science, if the archive admin (in this case me) is happy we are all happy [15:44] We still technically need 2 MOTUs right? [15:44] seb128, I guess you can do the second MOTU review while NEWing [15:44] mterry, do you have german roots? :p [15:45] :) [15:45] seb128, nowadays it's not rocket science. Long live dh7! [15:45] mterry, that rules is to avoid having non experienced packagers flood the queue with low quality uploads [15:45] and yeah, you = 1 MOTU, me doing NEW review = 2 MOTUs [15:45] so we are all good [15:45] OK [15:46] cyphermox, you can go back to boring piloting! :) [15:46] hehe [15:46] I'll get that going after lunch [15:46] ok [15:46] another topic? [15:46] not so much a topic, but I'm about to upload a new NM [15:47] it's supposed to magically do stuff for DNS [15:47] have fun :) [15:47] should we fear for you internet access? ;-) [15:47] maybe [15:47] our* [15:47] hehe [15:47] seriously, no [15:47] ok, all good then [15:47] it's just working on top of what was already in quantal, making it more reliable [15:47] happy feature freeeze rush ;-) [15:47] thanks everyone [15:47] seb128: we want to do bug 1032833, right? [15:47] Launchpad bug 1032833 in nautilus "Nautilus preferences: sort-directories-first should be enabled by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032833 [15:47] but since we now do dns updates to dnsmasq over dbus... just to be careful :) [15:48] jbicha, yes [15:49] kenvandine: looking at the pad... we could drop the entries about EDS no? :) [15:49] yeah [15:50] i don't think i've looked at the pad in 2 weeks :/ [15:50] we're going to make some kind of ubuntu-default-settings for these gsettings overrides? [15:50] well, I hadn't either :P [15:58] kenvandine: so how many time in total rebuilding empathy in the end :) [15:59] jbicha, we could yes [15:59] jbicha, or abuse ubuntu-artwork for it, I think it already set some [16:03] seb128, lightdm-remote-session-freerdp and libpam-freerdp are ready [16:04] mterry, uploaded or to review somewhere? [16:04]