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* smb looks expectantly16:02
roaksoaxhowdy all16:02
jimbakerhi everyone16:02
roaksoaxlet's get started16:02
smosero/16:02
roaksoax#startmeeting16:02
arosaleshello16:02
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Aug 21 16:02:33 2012 UTC.  The chair is roaksoax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:02
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roaksoax[TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting16:02
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roaksoaxit seems there were no actions. Unless missing from the wikipage16:03
roaksoaxif there are none, lets move on16:03
roaksoax[TOPIC] Quantal Development16:03
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roaksoax[LINK] Release Bugs - http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html16:03
roaksoaxbug 102845316:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1028453 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Quantal Ubuntu Server minimal install oversized" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102845316:03
roaksoaxis assigned to the whole team, has anyone been able to look at it16:04
roaksoax?16:04
arosalesI think Daviey said he had taken a look recently16:04
roaksoaxDaviey: ^^16:05
roaksoaxsmoser: ^^16:05
roaksoaxwho's taking care of that bug16:05
smoserwell, it wasn't me .16:05
roaksoaxlet's move on in the meantime since they seem to be afk16:05
smoseryeah.16:05
smoseryou can #action me16:05
roaksoaxbug 102850316:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1028503 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "support creating initial user if not present" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102850316:05
smoser#action smoser follow up on bug 102845316:06
meetingologyACTION: smoser follow up on bug 102845316:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1028453 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Quantal Ubuntu Server minimal install oversized" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102845316:06
roaksoaxsmoser: thanks smoser16:06
utlemmingroaksoax: in progress and will have an MP on that later today16:06
roaksoaxutlemming: awesome, could you please assign it to you? :)16:06
roaksoaxalright, moving on: bug 103091416:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1030914 in python-glanceclient (Ubuntu) "trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/glance', which is also in package glance-client" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103091416:06
* utlemming begrudgingly assigns to self16:06
roaksoaxzul: ^^?16:07
roaksoaxadam_g: or you?16:07
zulroaksoax: on it16:08
roaksoaxgreat thanks!16:08
zulsorry i just lost track of time on the meeting16:08
roaksoaxbug 103470116:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1034701 in horizon (Ubuntu Quantal) "ImportError: Could not import settings 'openstack_dashboard.settings': missing dependency on python-glanceclient" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103470116:08
roaksoaxzul: i guess that's yours too? :)16:08
zulroaksoax: im thinking thats already fixed but ill double check16:08
roaksoaxalright, thank you16:08
roaksoaxbug #102850916:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1028509 in nova (Ubuntu) "'nova rescue' fails if an instance image does not have a kernel_id" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102850916:09
roaksoaxzul is the winner again :)16:09
zuleffing16:09
roaksoaxand bug #99528516:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 995285 in nova (Ubuntu Quantal) "if /etc/sudoers.d/nova_sudoers is removed, upgrades fail" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99528516:09
roaksoaxzul: sounds like fun times16:09
zulno...it isnt16:10
roaksoaxhehe16:10
roaksoaxanyways, bug #101400516:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1014005 in ipxe (Ubuntu) "Please generate and include ipxe.dsk to the ipxe binary package" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101400516:10
roaksoaxanyone would like to take care of it?16:10
hallynoh hm.  i guess that will have to be me16:10
roaksoaxthanks hallyn16:11
roaksoaxbug #102428116:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1024281 in python-glanceclient (Ubuntu) "Bug during installation. conflicts: python-glanceclient + glance-client" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102428116:11
zuldupe16:11
roaksoaxalright,16:11
roaksoaxbug #85886716:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 858867 in cobbler (Ubuntu) "XMLRPC allows unauthed users access to various methods (which it shouldn't) " [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/85886716:11
roaksoaxfix released16:11
roaksoaxbug #102306616:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1023066 in quantum (Ubuntu) "python-quantum fails to install due to python syntax errors" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102306616:11
roaksoaxadam_g: updates?16:11
roaksoaxguess he is not around, let's skip.16:12
roaksoaxbug 102520316:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1025203 in quantum (Ubuntu) "Trying to overwrite '/etc/quantum/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_quantum_plugin.ini', which is also in package quantum-server" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102520316:12
roaksoaxzul: any updates?16:12
zulroaksoax: not yet hopefully will have a fix this week16:12
roaksoaxalright, finally16:12
roaksoaxbug 84499516:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 844995 in python-couchdb (Ubuntu) "Drop support for couchdb related packages" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84499516:12
roaksoaxanyone taking care of it16:13
roaksoaxit doesn't seem to be much to be done16:13
zuli thought it was done...daviey did an upload16:13
SpamapShow can any of us do anything?16:13
roaksoaxyeah it seems so16:13
SpamapSseems like its just an archive admin thing16:13
roaksoaxindeed16:13
roaksoaxalright, let's move on then16:14
adam_groaksoax: sorry, the quantum upload are still blocked on MIRs AFAIK16:14
roaksoax[LINK] Blueprints - http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/ubuntu-server.html16:14
DavieyI did the upload required for the other task16:14
Davieythat is an AA task16:14
roaksoaxDaviey: thanks ;)16:14
arosalesroaksoax: I have a few high /essentials in the red to go over if thats ok.16:14
Daviey<--- on a call16:14
roaksoaxarosales: please do16:14
arosalesSo feature freeze is this Thursday and beta1 is next week. 68% way through the release.16:15
arosalesIf we could start evaluating which work items will need to be postponed this will help notify folks at a reasonable time that a feature won't make it instead of surprising them close to time of release.16:15
arosaleszul: are the following openstack BPs progressing ok? Perhaps these are items that land late in the cycle due to the OpenStack release schedule.16:15
arosaleshttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-qa16:16
arosaleshttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-folsom16:16
arosaleshttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-stable16:16
zularosales: the openstack-qa and opestack-stable doesnt affect feature freeze and i think we are ok for openstack-folsom16:16
arosaleszul: ok thanks.16:16
arosalesroaksoax: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-ha16:16
roaksoaxarosales: 1 thing waiting on AA work16:17
arosalesroaksoax: thanks16:17
roaksoaxthe rest waiting on Debian, so I'll catch up today/tomorrow and make necessary uploads16:17
arosalesgreat, thanks16:17
arosalesbug-triage-review and iso-tests-review I will follow up with jamespage when he returns.16:17
arosalesSpamaps, I think we already hit on  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy yesterday16:17
arosalesm_3: jimbaker: is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-unit-tests up to date?16:18
SpamapSwe did16:18
SpamapSemail drafting today :)16:18
arosalesSpamapS: thanks16:18
arosalesutlemming: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-jenkins-cloud-builder16:19
utlemmingarosales: it'll make it16:20
arosaleslooking ok for beta1 next week?16:20
arosalesutlemming:  ^16:20
utlemmingarosales: its almost done, I just need to flip the switch, which I think will happen tomorrow16:20
utlemmingarosales: yup16:20
jimbakerarosales, i'm looking now16:21
utlemmingarosales: I was waiting till 12.04.1 to be safe16:21
arosalesutlemming: makes sense, and the external read-only jenkis and notifications coming post beta1?16:21
jimbakerarosales, i don't think m_3 has gotten a chance to work on it. i know i haven't :)16:21
utlemmingarosales: no eta on the external jenkins instance, but that is not a blocker. That can be implemented any time with out affecting the build service.16:22
jimbakerarosales, in terms of the blueprints update16:22
arosalesjimbaker: ok I'll sync up with you and m_3 later today on the pregress -- thanks16:22
arosalesthose were the red high/essential BPs16:22
jimbaker(our BPs are further behind than we are, fortunately)16:22
arosalesjust one last suggestion to postpone work items that we know we aren't going to make :-)16:22
arosalesjimbaker: better that way then reverse :-)16:23
arosalesroaksoax: back to you16:23
jimbakerarosales, for sure ;)16:23
roaksoaxalright16:23
arosalesdid anyone else have any BPs to go over?16:23
roaksoaxso if there's no more to bring to the table on quantal development, let's move on, shall we?16:23
roaksoax[TOPIC] 12.04.1 Development (jamespage & smoser)16:24
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roaksoaxsmoser:16:24
m_3arosales: no, that unit test blueprint isn't up to date16:24
smoserwell, we're almost there.16:24
roaksoaxjamespage:16:24
arosalesm_3: roger that16:24
roaksoax[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~jamespage/server-sru/precise-sru.html16:24
smoserits shipping on thursday.16:24
roaksoaxm_3: sorry about that16:24
roaksoaxsmoser:  do you want me to go over the SRU bugs?16:25
SpamapSseriously impressive amount of bug fixes shipped16:25
smoseri really dont think there is much to say, as there is not much that can be done at this point.16:25
roaksoaxalright, lets move on then16:25
smoserif the bug isn't in -proposed, it is -updates, which is fine.16:25
smoserer... -updates even.16:25
roaksoax[TOPIC] Ubuntu Server Team Events16:25
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roaksoaxany events coming up?16:25
SpamapSCloudOpen/LinuxCon next week!16:26
SpamapSadam_g and myself will be speaking about OpenStack and Juju respectively16:26
roaksoaxawesome16:26
SpamapSI believe Canonical's VP of Cloud will also be keynoting16:26
Daviey\o/16:26
SpamapShttp://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/cloudopen16:26
roaksoaxalright!16:27
arosalesalso jimbaker @ https://sea.ucar.edu/event/service-orchestration-cloud-environments-juju next week giving a Juju preso.16:27
smbXenSummit and Plumbers too16:27
SpamapSLinux Plumbers is also co-located16:27
roaksoaxseems like there's good presence16:27
jimbakeri was just asked to give a guest lecture on juju for the data center computing class at univ of colorado16:27
jimbakersometime end of sept16:27
roaksoaxthat's nice!16:27
roaksoaxalright then! we hvae a whole bunch of events!16:28
SpamapSAnd its in San Diego :)16:28
roaksoaxlet's move on16:28
roaksoax[TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)16:28
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roaksoaxhggdh: you are up :)16:28
roaksoaxseems he is not around, let's get back to him later16:29
roaksoax[TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)16:29
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roaksoaxsmb: howdy!16:29
smbhi16:29
smbSpent some time looking at bug 1011792. Only having stack traces16:29
smb(even more so since those usually are from older kernels) does not16:29
smbhelp too much. There are currently a few things which I asked them16:29
smbto do try. Waiting on those answers (not too actively as I am16:29
smbprematurely leaving towards San Diego tomorrow to have a few days16:29
smboff before XenSummit and Plumbers which I am at. And maybe it can16:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1011792 in linux-lts-backport-oneiric (Ubuntu) "Kernel lockup running 3.0.0 and 3.2.0 on multiple EC2 instance types" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101179216:29
smbbe discussed there for more ideas in some hallway discussion.16:29
smbutlemming, if lightning strikes and fires start burning during the16:29
smbrest of this week, apw knows a bit about the topic now.16:29
smbApart from this, zul, if you remember that libvirt source package16:29
smbyou wanted to look at one of those days... IIRC you now need to16:29
smbtweak it because there was yet another upload to Quantal. The16:29
smboutdated version still is at chinstrap:~smb/4review.16:29
utlemmingsmb: I was pinged last night after hours, but I missed it16:29
zulfrig16:30
smbutlemming, I think there is now enough to let them gather data16:30
smbAt least enough to cover until next week... :-P16:31
smb..16:31
roaksoaxAlright, if theres nothing else to discuss with smb, lets move on! [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)16:32
roaksoaxerr16:32
roaksoax[TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)16:32
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rbasakNothing new to report. Any questions for me?16:32
roaksoaxrbasak: howdy!16:33
roaksoaxanyone questions for rbasak ?16:33
hallynrbasak: woudl you mind running the lxc-testsuite against arm if you get a chance?16:33
hallyni *think* a team is doing that regularly, but i like to make sure16:33
rbasakhallyn: we were just discussing this today. I believe we already are, but perhaps an old version16:34
hallynok, if it's being discussed, i'm happy :)  thanks16:34
rbasakit's on mreed's todo (I don't think he's here or in #ubuntu-server but he's working on it)16:34
hallyn(that reminds me i have a fix i need to push to bzr in the tests)16:34
hallyngreat, thanks16:34
roaksoaxalright, if there's nothing else to discuss here16:35
roaksoaxlets move on16:35
roaksoax[TOPIC] Open Discussion16:35
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roaksoaxanyone has anything to discuss?16:35
SpamapSmeetings are too short16:35
SpamapSlets make them longer16:35
SpamapSand have more people talk at once16:35
SpamapSmaybe lots of ascii art diagrams?16:36
zuli think its the right length16:36
zulbut then again whats the sound of one hand clapping16:36
roaksoax\o/16:36
SpamapSroaksoax: thanks for chairing16:37
roaksoaxglad to help :)16:37
roaksoaxalright, so16:37
arosalesroaksoax: thanks16:37
roaksoax[TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time16:37
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roaksoaxsame time/place, see you all next week16:37
roaksoax#endmeeting16:37
jimbakerawesome, later16:37
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jsalisbury#startmeeting17:01
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jsalisbury##17:01
jsalisbury## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.17:01
jsalisbury##17:01
jsalisbury[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting17:01
jsalisbury[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Quantal17:01
jsalisbury# Meeting Etiquette17:01
jsalisbury#17:01
jsalisbury# NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.17:01
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jsalisburyRoll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting17:01
ppisatio/17:01
ckingo/17:01
sforsheeo/17:01
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henrixo/17:01
jsalisbury[TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)17:02
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ppisatiQ/omap4: a new Q/omap4 3.5 kernel was uploaded yesterday (3.5.0-208.14) and a                                                                                                        new one that includes all the patches that went into tilt-3.4[1] after i17:02
ppisatistarted my porting is being worked on.17:02
ppisatiHopefully this new one (3.5.0-209.15 [2]) will be the last one before beta1,17:02
ppisatiand it should fix the hangs rsalveti experiences with pvr-omap4.17:02
ppisatiSource code is available here:17:02
ppisatihttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ppisati/ubuntu-quantal.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ti-omap417:02
ppisati[1]: http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=people/andygreen/kernel-tilt.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/tilt-3.4, linux-release-2012-07..HEAD17:02
ppisati[2]: http://people.canonical.com/~ppisati/linux-image-3.5.0-209-omap4_3.5.0-209.15_armhf.deb17:02
ppisati..17:02
ppisatirsalveti: ^17:02
* rsalveti still stressing the system to see if the hang is gone17:03
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)17:03
jsalisburyRelease metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:17:03
jsalisbury[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt17:03
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jsalisbury..17:03
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)17:03
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ogasawara[LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/canonical-kernel-distro-team-ubuntu-12.10-beta-1.html17:03
ogasawara|| apw         || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 3 work item  ||17:03
ogasawara||             || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review  || 4 work items ||17:03
ogasawara||             || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||17:03
ogasawara||             || desktop-q-clean-old-kernels     || 1 work item ||17:03
ogasawara|| cking       || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||17:03
ogasawara|| ogasawara   || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 4 work items ||17:03
ogasawara|| tgardner    || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||17:03
ogasawaraIf your name is in the above table, please review your Beta-1 work items.17:03
ogasawara..17:03
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Quantal Development Kernel (ogasawara)17:04
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ogasawaraWe've recently uploaded the 3.5.0-11.11 Quantal kernel to the release17:04
ogasawarapocket.  This upload most notably provides a rebase to the v3.5.217:04
ogasawaraupstream stable release.  This was also uploaded to the q-lts-backport17:04
ogasawara[1] PPA to help facilitate testing of the 12.10 kernel in 12.04.  We17:04
ogasawarawelcome anyone to please install, test, and let us know your feedback.17:04
ogasawara[1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport17:04
ogasawaraNote that we are ~1 week away from Beta 1 Freeze.  I intend to upload or17:04
ogasawaraBeta-1 kernel no later than next Tues, Aug 28.  If there are any patches17:04
ogasawarawhich need to land, send them to the Ubuntu kernel team mailing list17:04
ogasawaraasap.17:04
ogasawaraImportant upcoming dates:17:04
ogasawara * Thurs Aug 30 - Beta 1 Freeze (~1 week)17:04
ogasawara * Thurs Sept 6 - Beta 1 (~2 weeks)17:04
ogasawara..17:04
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: CVE's (bjf)17:04
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bjf== 2012-08-21 (weekly) ==17:04
bjfCurrently we have 96 CVEs on our radar, with 2 CVE retired this week.17:04
bjfSee the CVE matrix for the current list:17:04
bjf[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html17:05
bjfOverall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:17:05
bjf[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt17:05
bjf[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt17:05
bjf..17:05
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix)17:05
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henrixHere is the status for the main kernels, until today (August 21):17:05
henrix * Hardy - Nothing in this cycle17:05
henrix * Lucid - In Testing; 3 CVEs; (6 commits)17:05
henrix * Natty - In Testing; 1 CVEs; (4 commits)17:05
henrix * Oneiric - In Verification; 1 CVEs; 2 upstream stable release(s); (98 commits)17:05
henrix * Precise - In Verification; 0 CVEs; 3 upstream stable release(s); (166 commits)17:05
henrix 17:05
henrixCurrent opened tracking bugs details:17:05
henrix * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html17:05
henrix 17:05
henrixFor SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:17:05
henrix * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html17:05
henrix 17:05
henrixFuture stable cadence cycles:17:05
henrix * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock17:05
henrix 17:05
henrixThe week of Sept. 6 is the week the last Natty kernel will be built.17:05
henrix..17:05
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)17:06
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jsalisburyThanks everyone17:06
jsalisbury#endmeeting17:06
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ckingthanks jsalisbury17:07
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* greg-g waves20:00
CracknelHi Greg20:00
czajkowskialoha20:00
itnet7Hey there everyone!20:00
xdatap1hi everybody20:00
huatshey20:01
SergioMeneseshello!!!20:01
maletaskihi20:01
Rainmaker__hi20:02
SergioMeneses#startmeeting20:02
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czajkowskialoha20:02
SergioMeneses#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda20:02
czajkowskiCracknel: ping20:03
Cracknelhi Laura20:04
SergioMeneses#topic Romania Reapproval20:04
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Romania Reapproval
czajkowskiwelcome thanks for coming20:04
SergioMeneses#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RomanianTeam/ReApprovalApplication201220:04
czajkowskinice wiki page folks!20:04
SergioMeneseshello Cracknel20:04
Cracknelsorry for not attending the meeting last month, I've forgot to add it to the calendar20:05
SergioMenesesCracknel, dont worry!20:05
czajkowskithat's fine Cracknel these things happen :)20:05
czajkowskiCracknel: so how do things get done in your team ?20:06
czajkowskiorganisation?20:06
Cracknelusually we use the forums for most of the work20:07
Cracknelbut there is a trend to use social networking websites like Google+20:07
czajkowskinods20:07
czajkowskidoes everyone help out?20:08
Cracknelwell, people interested in working on something usually get into the conversation20:08
Cracknelas everything is public, this is not a problem20:08
greg-gCracknel: do you see any issues coming up for the Romania LoCo in the future?20:08
czajkowskithats good open discussion20:09
IngForiguagmorning20:09
CracknelI don't think there will be a problem in the future20:09
SergioMenesesCracknel, I have a recommendation, you have to use the loco portal http://loco.ubuntu.com/20:09
huatsHow is defined the structure of the LoCo ?20:10
CracknelSergioMeneses: we've tried for the recent events20:10
Cracknelhuats: there is a core, based on older members20:11
hollman:D20:11
Crackneland every one else that wants to join is welcome20:11
itnet7Cracknel: I really like the outreach programs the team has held, very nice!20:11
SergioMenesesCracknel, great... keep it in mind!20:11
czajkowskiCracknel: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ro/events/history20:11
czajkowskinice work I'd encourage you to add your events here as it's easy to keep track of for your team20:12
Cracknelczajkowski: some might not come to knowledge of the core members of the team (the launchpad team)20:13
Cracknelso they do not appear in the loco team portal20:13
czajkowskiCracknel: yu mean people are not on Launchpad?20:13
Cracknelare not on the ubuntu-ro team on Launchpad20:14
Cracknelbut they do use Launchpad for translations, bug reporting...20:14
czajkowskiah ok20:15
czajkowskimaybe encourage them to join the team perahaps20:15
SergioMeneses+120:15
SergioMenesestotally agree20:15
Cracknelwe have some plans for this and will probably be discussed on the next IRC meeting20:15
SergioMenesesok.. we are ready to vote20:16
SergioMeneses#vote please vote on the re approval of the Romania loco20:16
meetingologyPlease vote on: please vote on the re approval of the Romania loco20:16
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)20:16
huats+120:16
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greg-g+1 # great work, great re approval application, keep of the great work!20:16
meetingology+1 # great work, great re approval application, keep of the great work! received from greg-g20:16
itnet7+120:16
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SergioMeneses#endvote20:17
meetingologyVoting ended on: please vote on the re approval of the Romania loco20:17
meetingologyVotes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:020:17
meetingologyMotion carried20:17
CracknelThanks :)20:17
huatsgreat !20:17
huatsgreat work, continue like that !20:17
SergioMenesescongratulations Cracknel20:17
itnet7Good job Cracknel and Ubuntu-ro!!20:17
greg-gcongrats and continue to be great!20:17
IngForiguafelicitaciones20:18
andresmujicacongrats Cracknel  and ubuntu-ro !20:18
greg-gnext!20:18
SergioMeneses#topic Colombian Reapproval20:18
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Colombian Reapproval
SergioMeneses#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ColombianTeam/ReApprovalApplication201220:19
SergioMeneseshello andresmujica20:19
andresmujicahi SergioMeneses  !20:19
andresmujicahello czajkowski greg-g itnet7  huats !20:19
andresmujicahello everyone20:19
itnet7Hey there andresmujica !20:19
* greg-g waves20:19
huatshello andresmujica20:20
SergioMenesesandresmujica, you have a great application20:20
czajkowskiandresmujica: hey there20:20
czajkowskilovely artwork20:21
SergioMenesesandresmujica, can you tell us something about the mesh project?20:21
andresmujicaI'm here on behalf of Ubuntu Colombia Team , so we're ready for the reapproval process :)20:21
czajkowskiandresmujica: so tell us about your team20:21
andresmujicathanks czajkowski thanks SergioMeneses20:21
andresmujicasure20:21
andresmujicaUbuntu Colombia is a team that is constantly evolving20:22
andresmujicait has been the start point for several others projects all over our country20:22
andresmujicaone of those is the mesh project that SergioMeneses  is asking about.20:22
itnet7andresmujica: /win 420:23
itnet7lol20:23
andresmujicathat's an amazing project20:23
itnet7sry20:23
SergioMenesesitnet7, je20:23
andresmujicathat has grown on the root s of several members from ubuntu colombia20:23
andresmujicahollman, and IngForigua  whom are present here.20:24
itnet7the Mesh project seems very cool indeed!20:24
andresmujicaanyway20:24
andresmujicaUbuntu Colombia has grown by itself20:24
andresmujicawe're currently about 3000 members20:24
IngForiguaHello :)20:24
andresmujicacounting all of our followers on social networks20:24
andresmujicamailing lists20:24
* itnet7 waves to IngForigua 20:24
andresmujicaand non internet connected members20:24
itnet7Nice andresmujica !20:24
huatsI really like your application20:25
SergioMeneseshuats, +120:25
huatsand the growing number of Ubuntu member is just awesome20:25
czajkowskiandresmujica: so do you see any issues for your loco coming up?20:25
andresmujica+1 huats20:25
SergioMenesesand they have a lot of events http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-co/events/history20:25
andresmujicaczajkowski, well in fact i do see some issues.  Probably the biggest one right know is that we've got a local council in charge of helping the team to flow20:26
andresmujicaand sometimes is hard for a newcomer to the Ubuntu Colombia team to understand the proper role of our council20:26
andresmujicausually the people are expecting that someone else do stuff and activities and things like that20:27
czajkowskiandresmujica: yes can you tell us more about this20:27
andresmujicaand it's hard to empower them so they can organize by themselves those activities.20:27
itnet7andresmujica: that's always difficult when new people come on board and are learning the ropes about the team20:27
* IngForigua Ubuntu-co rocks :P20:27
SergioMeneses#voters greg-g czajkowski SergioMeneses itnet7 huats xdatap120:27
meetingologyCurrent voters: SergioMeneses czajkowski greg-g huats itnet7 xdatap120:27
andresmujicahowever the model is working20:27
andresmujicajust fine20:27
andresmujicawith improvements coming20:27
czajkowskiandresmujica: nods do you think the team needs a council and what extra powers does it bring to your team?20:28
huats+120:28
xdatap1+120:28
andresmujicaczajkowski, i do believe that the team needs to be self sufficient and that means that it should not be dependeant on only one person, it should be dependant on several.. the more the merrier :)20:28
SergioMenesesandresmujica, great work! we are ready to vote20:28
itnet7good point andresmujica !20:29
czajkowskiok20:29
SergioMeneses#vote please vote on the re approval of the Colombian LoCo20:29
meetingologyPlease vote on: please vote on the re approval of the Colombian LoCo20:29
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)20:29
czajkowski+120:29
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greg-g+1 :)20:29
meetingology+1 :) received from greg-g20:29
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hollman:D iujuu20:29
andresmujica:D  yuupppiiii  :)20:30
huatscongrats to your team !20:30
hollmangood work my team u-co20:30
Costeelation:')20:30
hollman**our20:30
SergioMeneses#endvote20:30
meetingologyVoting ended on: please vote on the re approval of the Colombian LoCo20:30
meetingologyVotes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:120:30
meetingologyMotion carried20:30
andresmujicathank you czajkowski greg-g xdatap1 itnet7 huats SergioMeneses :)20:30
SergioMenesesandresmujica, excellent work!20:30
huatsThanks to you !20:30
SergioMenesescongratulations20:30
hollmanthanks all20:30
itnet7great work, keeop it up Ubuntu-CO!!!20:30
huatsfor your great job20:31
SergioMeneseshollman, IngForigua \o20:31
Costeelationcongratulations guys20:31
IngForiguanice20:31
IngForiguafelicitaciones20:31
IngForiguajojojo20:31
andresmujicathank you SergioMeneses you've done a great work too!20:31
SergioMeneses#topic Serbian Reapproval20:31
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Serbian Reapproval
uros1Hello from Belgrade, speaking in name of Serbian Ubuntu LoCo team, members present are bojce coordinator, olujicz, Beretta021, promis, maletaski, Rainmaker and me.20:31
SergioMeneses#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SerbianTeam/ReApprovalApplication201220:31
itnet7Welcome uros1 and the Serbian Team!!20:32
uros1serb pepople ssay hi20:32
bojceHello everyone20:32
SergioMenesesbojce, uros1 hello20:32
czajkowskioh more lovely artwork!20:32
czajkowskiyay20:32
maletaskihello20:32
czajkowski:)20:32
czajkowskihttp://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-rs/events/history  nice to see20:33
czajkowskiuros1: how is your team doing ?20:33
uros1tnx we have god two years20:34
czajkowskiCan we help ?20:34
itnet7beautiful job on the re-approval page!20:34
SergioMenesesgreat20:34
uros1In the last two years,  the main problem was material delivery – CD's, due to strict customs regulations in Serbia.   The team hasn't found adequate solution for this problem, and we  appreciate your understanding of this20:34
uros1Dialogue with state institutions regarding Ubuntu and FLOSS adoption within the government system remains strategic goal of the team; the results accomplished by now raise hopes, and we believe that Council's support in the process could be stronger and more intensive.20:34
uros1On demand from Ministry of communications (Department of Digital society) Team is currently  in process of making tutorials for general audience, on topic how to adopt Ubuntu and how to adopt FLOSS applications in business environment20:35
uros1This is major step forward in dialogue between Team and state administration20:35
czajkowskiuros1: so have you beenable to receive the cds from shipit ?20:35
uros1only for 11.0420:35
uros1looking for solution, trust me20:36
czajkowskiwhat is the issue what happpens?20:36
uros1custom problem20:36
SergioMenesestaxes?20:36
czajkowskiuros1: and have you contacted shippit to see if they will help20:36
uros1Serbia was part of ex Yugoslavia20:36
czajkowskithey do help where they can20:36
uros1so still big problem with custom, CD`s are subject of import20:37
uros1yes I know20:37
huatsuros1: is it for CD received from anywhere ?20:38
uros1so i say again, looking for proper solutin20:38
uros1One time Montenegro Loco split 11.04 cd`s with us20:38
huatsuros1: that was my idea20:39
huatswould it be possible to send 2 pack to montenegro by instance and that you split ?20:39
huatsnot a perfect solution ...20:39
uros1yes, that is god solution!20:39
itnet7+1 huats !20:39
uros1very god solution if it`s possible20:39
SergioMeneseshuats, maybe20:40
huatsuros1: czajkowski may contradict me but you can ask that your Cd to be shipepd somewhere else20:40
czajkowskihmmm20:41
SergioMenesesbut we have to speak with montenegro about this20:41
czajkowskinot sure about that20:41
czajkowskiI know somtimes canonical have kindly also helped pay for the vat on customs20:41
huatsczajkowski: but that might worth doing a kind of exception20:41
huats(well at least to ask :)20:42
uros1czajkowski: can we be in contact about this in future?20:42
itnet7Well, now that we are aware of the issue, we can at least ask offline and see if it's possible20:42
czajkowskiuros1: of course20:42
uros1cool20:42
uros1so  on the other hand, good old customers support, answering their demands on daily basis has been improved almost to perfection, and unsolved problems are almost non-existant.20:43
uros1in forum20:43
huatsgreat to hear20:43
uros1old-fashioned everyday work :)20:44
SergioMenesesuros1, great work! we are ready to vote20:44
SergioMeneses#vote20:44
meetingologyPlease vote on:20:44
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)20:44
huats+1 !20:44
huats+120:44
czajkowski+120:44
SergioMeneses+120:44
itnet7+120:44
xdatap1+120:45
SergioMeneses#endvote20:45
meetingologyNo vote in progress20:45
czajkowskiwell it's passed :)20:46
czajkowskiso well done20:46
SergioMenesessure20:46
xdatap1congratulations20:46
itnet7Sure, Congratulations!!!20:46
bojcethanks all20:46
huatscongrats !20:46
SergioMenesescongratulations Serbian team20:46
Rainmaker_thanks20:46
maletaskithanms20:46
uros1tnx Councill!!20:46
itnet7Great work uros1 and Team!!!20:46
czajkowskiSergioMeneses: thank you for chairing!20:47
SergioMenesesczajkowski, dont worry20:47
SergioMeneses#action SergioMeneses update LP approved locos20:47
meetingologyACTION: SergioMeneses update LP approved locos20:47
itnet7Thanks for chairing SergioMeneses !20:48
huatsthanks for sharing SergioMeneses20:48
SergioMeneses#action itnet7  to update the wiki and team report with meeting20:49
meetingologyACTION: itnet7  to update the wiki and team report with meeting20:49
SergioMeneses#endmeeting20:49
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