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kanliotrunning the QQ daily something seriously wrong with graphics in my vm05:41
noskcaji'm considering upgrading to quantal on my main ubuntu machine, could this damage anything?07:50
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WorfWould here be a good place to discuss linux-image-3.5.0-11-generic ? Maybe i'm missing something obvious, but i tried a minimal ubuntu install with debootstrap and with mentioned kernel, and i have all kinds of hardware support issues. Like no mouse device, harddisk devices missing, network card missing, ...14:33
smartboyhwNo.14:34
patdk-wkyou probably want the kernel team14:34
smartboyhw#ubuntu-kernel14:34
Worftrying, thanks14:34
smartboyhwIs balloons on vacation today?14:44
phillwidk, just installing 10.04.4 as requested to then update to 12.04.114:47
smartboyhw...14:47
njinphillw, smartboyhw, hallo14:51
smartboyhwnjin: o/14:52
phillwhiyas njin14:52
* balloons floats14:55
smartboyhwballoons: I got someone talking about package testing in #ubuntu+114:55
smartboyhwBug 103951814:55
ubot5Launchpad bug 1039518 in gecko-mediaplayer (Ubuntu) "gecko-mplayer / gnome-mplayer 1.0.6 do not work on ppc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103951814:55
balloonsok, looks like a ppc bug14:57
balloonsand he's on lubuntu.. that's good14:57
phillwballoons: I disagree... it's not good :P14:57
balloonsphillw, lol14:57
smartboyhwlol14:57
smartboyhwballoons: What testing are you doing now?:)15:00
balloonssomething new15:00
smartboyhwballoons: What new???:_)15:01
balloonsalways new and exciting15:01
balloonsyou'll see soon enough..15:01
smartboyhwballoons: You're not telling me "what" = ?15:01
balloonsI will15:01
smartboyhwballoons: Would you please tell me using PM?:);)15:02
phillwI'll go and allocate that bug to the lubuntu team are made aware of it.15:02
balloonssmartboyhw, lol.. you'll find out in a moment15:02
phillws/to/so15:02
smartboyhw...15:02
smartboyhwballoons: What do you mean IN A MOMENT?15:02
balloonsphillw, good plan :-)15:02
smartboyhwActually, why do you guys use s/../..?15:02
balloonsphillw,  I was saying good he's on lubuntu since there's a ppc contingent of users there15:03
balloonssmartboyhw, s/../../ is shorthand for regex find and replace15:03
davmor2smartboyhw: man sed15:03
phillwballoons: he seems to have raised a duplicate... bug 1039518 and bug 102581515:07
ubot5Launchpad bug 1039518 in gecko-mediaplayer (Ubuntu) "gecko-mplayer / gnome-mplayer 1.0.6 do not work on ppc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103951815:07
ubot5Launchpad bug 1025815 in gecko-mediaplayer (Ubuntu) "gecko package for ppc is broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102581515:07
smartboyhwUh oh15:07
phillwI'll mark the latter a dup of the 1st and email the L-QA mailing list so that they're aware.15:08
smartboyhwI did already15:08
smartboyhwphillw: E-mail the QA list15:09
smartboyhwI did the mark duplicate15:09
phillwI see now, I'll let the L-QA peoplel know of it.15:09
smartboyhwThanks15:09
phillwsent.15:11
phillwballoons: as ubuntu 10.04.4 update has been tested, do you want me to to do the kubuntu ones?15:18
smartboyhwphillw: You should, balloons will be super happy15:19
balloonsphillw, I'm sure the kubuntu folks would appreciate that very much!15:19
balloonsthe high bug found on ubuntu was for the global menu15:19
smartboyhwphillw: If you can try to test a Ubuntu Studio 12.04.1 build15:19
balloonsdoesn't affect kubuntu15:19
phillwI'll just zsync up my iso.15:19
smartboyhwok15:19
smartboyhwballoons: Where's my link now:_)15:20
smartboyhwballoons: Where's my link of the new feature???15:23
phillwsmartboyhw: it takes about 1.5 hours to grab an iso, about 30 mins to install and then however long it is for an update!15:26
smartboyhwphillw: It takes me 10 minutes to grab an iso, 20 minutes to install, then 30 minutes to update15:26
phillwthe advantages for a fast b/band link!15:27
smartboyhwphillw: I'm using WiFi15:27
smartboyhwIf I'm on broadband I can download it within 2 minutes15:27
smartboyhwSo, phillw, you're chair again tmr15:30
phillwindeed :)15:30
balloonssmartboyhw, http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/08/call-for-testing-compiz-unity.html15:38
smartboyhwThanks15:39
balloonssmartboyhw, bah15:43
balloonsdon't use the listed ppa15:43
balloonssmartboyhw, k fixed15:44
balloons:-)15:44
smartboyhwOK15:45
balloonsppa:timo-jyrinki/prerelease is the proper ppa15:45
smartboyhwAnyway, balloons, I wonder: Who manages the QA Trackers?15:51
balloonsstgraber has been the primary developer of the site. There are several individuals who help manage the iso tracker, and package tracker15:52
jibelballoons, does the PPA includes a working version of llvmpipe ?15:52
smartboyhwWow wow wow, can I help too? (Kidding, I am new)15:52
jibelin other words, can I try it on VMs and pandaboards ?15:53
balloonsjibel, yes I believe it does..15:54
balloonsi'm not sure on the pandaboard.. but I was also going to try :-)15:54
balloonsI suppose a vm first makes sense15:54
smartboyhwYeah, it's ll'vm'pipe:D15:55
smartboyhwballoons: See my kidding line?:)15:55
jibelballoons, thanks. I'll give it a try15:55
balloonsjibel, k let me know how it goes15:56
balloonsI won't be able to try it out rightnow15:57
smartboyhwI'm always kidding!15:57
balloonssmartboyhw, lol15:57
balloonsgetting late eh?15:57
smartboyhwballoons: I mean the line 15 lines above:D also I'm sleeping soon15:58
smartboyhwballoons: Why do you choose the nick balloons?:D16:02
balloonssmartboyhw, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twenty-One_Balloons16:04
smartboyhwUh..................................................................................16:04
balloonsok, so am I crazy, or has nautilus always been branded "Files"?17:34
xnoxballoons: "always" = it did appear in quantal and had a page-sread on "OMG! Ubuntu Nautilus has changed!"17:35
xnoxso it's fairly recent17:36
balloonsxnox, ahh.. I missed the zomg! world is ending article17:36
balloons:-) found a renaming bug though17:36
xnoxballoons: outside of terminal, emacs, thunderbird and browser I don't notice much stuff, if not OMG!Ubuntu.17:41
xnoxballoons: i notice that fontconfig is complaining about <test> in it's directives, but not "Nautilus" -> "Files" rename.17:41
balloonsyes.. I just got hit with fontconfig error again17:42
balloonsand oddly, I noticed the grammar error: Having multiple values in <test> isn't supported and may not works as expected17:42
balloonsworks instead of work17:43
xnoxTELL ME ABOUT IT! =)17:43
xnoxis it just me or quantal daily-live cd doesn't boot on amd64 into graphical display at all17:50
xnox?17:50
balloonsxnox using what?17:51
xnoxballoons: kvm / libvirt17:51
balloonsxnox, no 3d support17:52
balloonsno desktop17:52
xnox=))))))))))))) brilliant17:52
xnoxballoons: ubiquity debconf interface hear I come17:52
balloonsxnox, ubiquity should work17:52
balloonsrun install ubuntu17:52
balloonsdon't run try before installing..17:53
balloonsalthough, I have no idea if that's loading 3d bits or not.. the installer does not17:53
balloonsI'm testing the llvmpipe right now, starting from an old daily quantal iso.. see if the vm works again'17:53
xnoxballoons: nope. I just get boot up messages on the console and that's it.17:55
xnoxand then it just sits there displaying me those.17:55
balloonsxnox.. then hmm17:56
* balloons wonders if something is more broken17:56
xnoxballoons: 20120821 image17:56
balloonsI haven't zsynced quantal today17:57
balloonsstill running through precise17:57
balloonsjibel, I installed the ppa on quantal vm, I'm running unity17:59
balloonsseems to work fine17:59
balloonsohh yes.. I purged the ppa and went back to default18:02
balloonsyea.. it's definitely a difference :-) -- hah!18:02
phillwany kubuntu testers about for a bit help with a test case?18:05
phillwballoons: the 10.04 upgrade for kubuntu is pointing to legacy, which is also pointing to out of date wiki pages, any ideas where I should start? There is a wiki page with the correct information.18:23
balloonsphillw, ping Scottk, riddell, or darkwing..18:24
balloonshmm none in here18:24
balloonstry #kubuntu-devel18:24
balloonsahh I see you in there18:25
balloonsshadeslayer can also help18:25
phillwballoons: it is he who has given me the instructions to get me going :)18:25
balloonsah-ha18:26
phillwI can get to 12.04 now, then I can add on the 12.04.118:26
phillw50 minutes to upgrade18:27
phillwI'll be glad to get these two done for kubuntu, lubuntu does owe them quite a few favours from when lubuntu was still very new and not adopted.18:28
njinbug 103751518:37
ubot5Launchpad bug 1037515 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity-dm crashed with MissingProgramError in run(): No window manager found (tried metacity, xfwm4, matchbox-window-manager, openbox-lubuntu, openbox)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103751518:37
balloonsnjin, ?19:28
balloonsohh.. lookey there19:28
njinballoons, is the blocker for the installer19:29
balloonsnjin yes very much so19:30
balloonsmy guess is the compiz work will fix this19:30
njinballoons, but the unity test mean to install something or I already have it installed in my quantal fully updated ?19:31
balloonsyou need to install from a ppa19:32
balloonsit's unity 6.2, but packaged with a new compiz and new control center19:32
njinok, going to install then, thanks19:32
njinballoons, is disabled the feature to move the window with Alt+right click ??20:21
balloonsnjin, whoa20:23
balloonsI didn't even notice20:23
njinuh, a bug20:23
balloonsoh yes20:23
njinok I open a report then20:24
balloonsyea, link it here20:26
balloonsI'll add myself and confirm :-)20:26
njinballoons, do you know a way to run apport with non original packages (ppa)20:28
balloonsyou should be able to in this case njin20:29
balloonsubuntu-bug unity20:29
balloonsis it not working?20:29
njini run ubuntu-bug compiz20:29
njin:-)20:29
njintrying20:29
balloonsyou can hit 'yes' to report against compiz :-)20:30
balloonsand it works20:30
njin:-s20:31
njinone moment there's a bug in the tag and it won't upload20:44
njinballoons, bug 1039730 ,thanks20:45
ubot5Launchpad bug 1039730 in Unity "Cannot move window with Alt+Right click" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103973020:46
balloonsnjin, thanks!20:46
balloonsnjin did you report in the tracker someplace? it would help in this case I think20:47
njinI will complete the test then I report it on the tracker20:48
jibelballoons, can you tell me what you're testing, how, and how it crashes ?20:54
balloonsjibel.. I'm using 32-bit, manual partitioning20:55
balloonsi think it might be the memory bug already mentioned.. I'm not positive20:56
balloonssince it's locking, I can't see the locks, other than the scrolling traceback as it flies by20:56
balloons*logs20:56
jibelballoons, desktop 32bit ?20:57
balloonssorry yes, desktop 32bit20:57
jibelballoons, how much memory in your VM ?20:57
balloonshttps://launchpad.net/bugs/1039405 is the bug in question20:57
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1039405 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "Lockups when running vm's with 768MB of memory" [Undecided,New]20:57
jibelballoons, anything like 'page allocation failure' in /var/log/syslog ?20:58
balloonsjibel, checking.. lol yep, it's set to 256mb..20:58
jibelheh20:58
balloonsodd I've been running all day just fine.. seems 32bit isn't so happy20:58
balloonsI must have shrunk it at some point20:58
balloonsthe manual partitioning must put it over the edge20:59
balloonsif you autoinstall it has enough free mem I'm guessing20:59
jibelballoons, nope with 512MB it crashes on i38620:59
balloonsodd.. it worked for me I thought..20:59
jibelunless you install directly and not from a live session20:59
balloonsohh.. well I guess I was doing alt images all day, so :-)21:00
balloonsok, so gotta finish this install now and then test the recuse for it21:00
jibelballoons, BTW rescue mode is ok21:00
balloonsohh.. well then ;-021:00
njinoh yes, i remember edubuntu precise with this problem21:00
balloonswell at least i've got a 32bit vm i'll save now as well21:04
njinok, see you tomorrow, I go goodnight21:06
jibelgood night njin21:06
* jibel testing ltsp on amd6421:10
balloonsjibel, looks like that's everything then for precise, n'est pas/21:12
balloons?21:12
jibelballoons, I'm re-running tests where there is only 1 result submitted by a non-proven testers21:13
jibelballoons, just to make sure we didn't miss something21:13
jibelI'll do a couple of non-english installations too21:17
balloonsis your head spinning yet? :-)21:18
jibelballoons, on i386 we only have results from victor and he's chinese it'd be nice to test something like spanish or german21:18
balloonsjibel, I'm seeing most of the images have been set as release21:19
balloonslinky?21:19
balloonsI can manage french.. spanish or german would be a stretch21:19
balloonsI did have fun doing an italien install.. but eh, I know the boxes by heart anyway21:19
jibelballoons, where do you see images set as release ?21:20
balloonssorry.. vocab, vocab21:21
balloonsjibel, they were marked for a respin I take it21:22
balloonsthe point was.. they are missing from the tracker atm :-)21:23
balloonsso I don't see i386 right now21:23
jibelballoons, you lost me21:24
jibelballoons, am I on the right page http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds ?21:24
* balloons goes to look @ the pad21:25
balloonsjibel.. wow21:25
* balloons had the "tested" status unchecked on the filters21:25
balloonsso most of the images were "gone" ;-)21:25
jibelphew :)21:26
balloonsyea..21:26
balloonsso I thought they were releasing or respinning ore something21:26
balloonsI looked in the tracker, got more confused.. checked the pad, and scrollback21:26
balloons...21:26
* balloons clicks the tickbox21:26
balloonshey! everything is back!21:26
jibelanyway, doing a french install with network and german without network21:26
jibelballoons, fantastic ! ;)21:27
balloonsok, clearly I need 5 mins.. I'm going to get some water21:27
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jibelballoons, ltsp on amd64 OK, non-english on i386 OK21:47
jibelnow finishing DVD amd6421:47
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phillwballoons: how is you testing going?22:15
phillw*your*22:15
balloonsrolling along22:17
balloonsi had to take 522:19
balloonssee above22:19
balloonshah22:19
phillwcan you try the 10.04.04 kubuntu AMD64 --> 12.04, it is just failing for me with the system complaining that there are too many errors for it keep logged :'(22:19
balloonsI was spent22:19
balloonsu on real hw or vm?22:19
phillwI'm about beat now, also. I've tried... amd failed22:19
phillwVM, VNC that has worked okay in the past.22:19
phillwI'm using Virtual Machine Manager 0.9.022:20
phillwIt is what I use on the SII server to hold VM's and test. Not sure what is going wrong :(22:21
phillwlvm areas set up as usual. The initial install goes in fine. It is the update that crashes and burns.22:22
phillw*upgrade*, not the initial update.22:23
jibelphillw, can you file a bug against update-manager and attach the content of /var/log/dist-upgrade ?22:24
jibelI'll have a look22:24
phillwjibel yeah, I'll pull the files off, Is an attachment of the whole directory okay?22:25
phillwas in tar'ed up?22:25
jibelphillw, it's okay22:26
phillwokies, let me try get it off the VM :P22:26
jibelphillw, paste the bug number in the channel once you have it22:36
jibelbed time for me22:36
jibelgood night everyone22:36
balloonsnight jibel22:38
balloonsphillw, still dl'ing the iso22:38
balloonsugh.. only dvd's?22:40
balloonsI can't do that..22:40

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